There's so many possibilities with Lifeweaver so leave more myths in the comments. Also playing Lifeweaver viewer games all week at twitch.tv/karq come say hi 🌸
A myth I saw somewhere else, but what happens if you life grip a friendly roadhog who is in the process of hooking an enemy? Like would the enemy just go flying around the map after hog or would hook just be cancelled
If you place the tree of life right where Snowball is does it block LOS entirely, basically cancelling the ult? Edit: Now that this post is so popular I'll add something else, I saw a clip of the push robot moving the tree of life, i think if you went near the bot it would of maybe moved the tree at 00:53
yes, although the tree branches do have some gaps so be careful. Overall though he was a good mei counter in my games tonight; he could keep high ground over her, rescue enemies that she isolated, dash away if she came at him. (The mei expressed frustration at getting 2 support counters in a row, which: fair.)
Can Reinhardt pin a second target after Lifeweaver has saved a first from a pin? My first thought would be that he can, but would be interesting to see it tested out!
It's funny how emong also tested out if you can pedal platform teammates from zarya's graviton surge and yes, it works as well. However, zarya can place a graviton surge on the wall and that way you can't save teammates but you can just lifegrip one of them anyways so long as lifeweaver doesn't get caught in the ult
Does anyone know what happens if Zar gravs you on a platform lift on Hollywood? Does the grav move up with the platform or do enemies get out of grav from the platform? This Lifeweaver lift should act the same way as the Hollywood platforms do
Questions for next mythbuster: When tree of life is up, can lifeweaver generate ult chage for next tree? If yes: If the tree of life is destroyed early, can lifeweaver generate ult charge once the tree is broken or once the actual ult duration ends?
Lifeweaver cannot generate Ult charge while Tree of Life is active, but he can generate Ult charge once it is destroyed since destroying the Tree ends the Ult - I found this out while testing Lifeweaver in the Practice Range. Hope this helped!
Sombra ones: Can you leave translocator on top of a petal platform? If so, could the platform be lifted up to the ceiling if someone gets off mid-lift, and then does the translocator get destroyed? Can stealth sombra activate petal platform?
Emong made a video as well he does cover this topic. I believe the answer is no translocator either falls off or explodes if in air. Should probably fact check me on this though
As No SkillZ said, Emongg made a mythbusters vid of his own, overlapping with some topics covered in this video. One such myth tested was the translocator one. It gets destroyed with the platform IIRC. No idea about stealth activating the platform though. I'll have to test that out on my own.
And if you try to pull an ally that is being hooked, do you break the enemy's hook ? Or does it cancel the pull ? Or does it only pull at the end of the pull animation ? If it cancels the pull does it still activate the pull cool-down ?
Speaking from a game developer's point of view, I'd guess no. Most likely the raycast checks for LOS would begin inside the collision mesh, and raycasts beginning inside a mesh typically don't hit that mesh.
Can stun moves like Reinhardt Charge, Brigette Shield Bash, and Doom Punch break Life Grip? Also, 0:54 was funny to me because I just finished a watching God Of War playthrought and started God Of War: Ragnarok.
I’d love a quick list of movement abilities that do/do not get you out of a friendly lifeweaver’s grip. I know soldier’s dash doesn’t, but I’m not sure about some: ball’s grapple, brig’s shield bash, Lucio’s anything?, bap’s power jump, junkrat’s concussion mine… at this point I think it’s a shorter list of who can’t get out of lifeweaver’s grip. (Which is great, don’t get me wrong.)
Blizzard is just trying to break their own game now. The first three heroes for OW2 and even Rammatra for the most part were pretty standard. But those ults are kinda crazy, plus Lifeweaver’s entire tool kit. The game is going to be played very differently.
I’ve not tested it in season 4 but in season 3 if a wrecking ball was in fireball and went through a sym tp the fireball damage is doubled to 100 instead of 50
You did a few about Bob, but what I’ve been wondering is can you use Life Grip to pull Bob? Could allow you to move him into a more favorable position if Ashe misplaced him or the enemy team moves.
@KarQ can you use DVA's ultimate in life grip and will the mech keep the momentum gained from life grip? Could be cool to also see that comboed with sym teleport if so.
Nice vid. Does Bob/ Torb Turret lock onto tree of life? Regardless, placing a Tree in front of Bob seems like one of the best counters to a very strong ult (depending on bob’s DPS)
If you place a petal on the ground and then Tree of Life on it and activate it with your own character, then it goes up. and still heals underneath the petal. I think you can also lift up enemy LW's Tree of Life to remove the enemy team's cover, but it's very tricky to get the hitboxes right, since the petal will be around the Tree's edges.
If Orisa ults before Life Grip, does it interact in a similar way to Symmetra teleport? Also can Orisa cast or cancle her ult while being pulled by Life Grip?
0:47 you can actually move the robot and the tree will stay inside him, making it mobile. Bit tricky to position but i've already seen it more than once.
Where’s that Sombra rework they said we were getting in S4? Looks like Lifeweaver will be another character that anyone who eats glue can hard counter simply by picking Sombra…
Can you cancel the immortality field by putting the tree in it like with the Mei wall? And can you pull a Pharah while they're using their ultimate? seems useful. Does pedal platform unfreeze people stuck in Mei's ult since it breaks the line of light for them?
You can Pull anyone with a Channeled Ult while they Ult. Some you have to wait for their activation animation finish first, though. Conversely, anyone can Ult while being Pulled. And, specifically to your question, Pharah has been tested. As has Reaper, Cassidy, Orisa, and DVa.
Can the petal platfrom go THROUGH a payload? I mean you put the platform on the ground,the payload is above it and THEN you activate the platfrom. What happens in this instance? o.O
Mei interacting wirh Lifeweaver's Grip does allow for some troll, but much like everything about Mei's wall, it has a lot of potential with the proper reaction time
I life gripped the other support out of a Rein charge earlier in a tough team fight and A) I think it was the only reason we won the fight, so I'm glad it works and B) The Rein was so confused. He literally looked around like "where did she go???"
I would like to see that, but the platform would work the same no matter who's side it's on 😂. If anything it would be worse for ur team since they can't shoot it down
It's not that special. Ana (sleep or nano), Bap (lamp), Kiri (suzu), Lucio (beat), DF (punch), Orisa (javelin), another Rein (charge), Hog (hook), Sig (rock), Zarya (bubble or grav) and Sombra (hack) could already do that.
@@clonkex I forgor. But I mean, lifeweaver does it so much easier than all of those, so it's still pretty crazy. All he gotta do is look in that direction and yoink
"Please don't use Mei's ice block to troll your team" Me, only playing Lifeweaver to troll in the first place: "Haha yeahhh why would anyone do that..?"
I'll probably test these myself anyway, but a few ideas. 1) Does a raised Petal Platform placed on a map's moving platform travel with the map platform or stay suspended in one spot? 2) Can Petal Platform raise up Snowball? (Especially useful on Oasis University) 3) Does Petal Platform support Mei walls, and if so, what kinds of shenanigans happen when the wall rises with the platform? 4) Do traps, mines, etc on a dismissed Petal Platform fall, get destroyed, or stay suspended? Junkrat, Ball, etc.
Emongg tested a few of these, so I'll try and answer these from memory. 1) I don't think he tested this. 2) Yes. Mei's ult has no effect on those below the platform while Snowball is on the platform. 3) I think it does, probably works the other way around too. 4) I don't think any stay suspended. Most get destroyed with the platform, such as Sombra's translocator, Junkrat's trap (maybe his mine too), and others of that nature. Good luck landing one of Ball's mines on a platform though.
Got to disagree with the Lucio one (7:40). If Lucio jumps from high up you definitely pull him down faster. To top it off, you prevent Lucio from dying and guarantee the beat.
I'm a symmetra main in a 4 stack with a Diamond Reinhardt and 2 support players - we thought Wife Leaver's pull would help our tank the most but it turns out it actually helps me the most. I'm a very aggressive symm player, on one Route 66 game we had today I didn't die once and just melted my way through the enemy hog and echopharmacy. It allows me to push even further to get triple beam charge then get out instantly allowing me to more reliable get picks - since I no longer have to worry about my tp breaking, I can stay in the fight longer.
I think to make Lifeweaver way more interesting, they should give Tree of Life like 10k HP, an absolutely massive health pool. But here would be a couple nuances I've thought of: -Increase size by 20-25% of the actual prop -Make it a platform that can be stood on, and you can't slide off it like you can right now, essentially a new physical thing to account for -Healing is only distributed by the tree when it takes damage, and the healing is equivalent to the damage it takes x0.4 -Tree can't be instantly destroyed, but when EMP'd, hacked, et cetera, loses health without distributing healing. Leave any other ideas down below. I'd love to respond or see what criticisms there may be with my design. My goal is to make the ult seem fun, not necessarily with competitive in mind (I still live by the idea that competitive and quick play need separate balance patches).
5:09 For me, it would be great if we can regenerate some of our teammate's HP when they Life Gripped. It's kinda sad if we Life Grip our teammate but they ended up dying just because they got some debuff (like burn or poison)
I think since life grip doesn't prevent use of primary fire, as long as you charge heals mid use and not beforehand, u can prevent DOTs from executing fatally damaged allies by healing them before the life grip shield even vanishes (to a limit at least).
I wouldn't call it underrated. Considering there's a temporary Arcade game mode called Bob and Weave, which is literally two teams of Lifeweavers with a Bob, and so that combo is constantly used. xD
If you haven’t found out by now, you can put the tree of life ON the petal platform. It will only work if you place the petal platform down first, and then put the tree on top of it. If you raise it, it will still heal you too. Unsure if it’ll heal while directly underneath it.
8:57 can you also put the tree in the middle of the mei ult to prevent LoS in a 360°, negating its effects completely? 9:39 what happens to the turrets after the tree disappears? do they fall off, float mid air, or get destroyed with the tree?
Got a ton here so good luck: Can tree of life healing be boosted by an Ana nade? Can you put a petal platform on a Mei wall? If so, What happens when Mei's wall is destroyed? Can you put a Mei wall on a petal platform? If so, what happens when the petal platform is destroyed? Can you put Rammatra's Ravenous Vortex on a petal platform? If torb's turret is where the petal platform is placed, can it get lifted up? (alternately if its above the platform) Can the Petal platform break LOS for mei's blizzard? (as in can someone standing right underneath the platform, and also underneath snowball survive being frozen) Can the Petal Platform break Wrecking ball's mines? (his ult) Can Genji/Hanzo/Kiriko climb up the tree of life and petal platform? What happens of you put a petal platform underneath another petal platform?
Has anyone tested if his petal hitboxes on his back stop him from getting headshot from behind? I dont imagine they do but just thought of it randomly.
Myth: spamming the heal button fast(only doing 10 healing per flower) is more Healing per second than maxing the heal(65 healing per flower but takes more time).
Also, it's possible to lift the tree up after placing it on a Platform and then dropping it back down. Since ToL cuts LOS from Blizzard drone preventing players from being frozen I wanted to know if it's possible to 'encase' the drone by putting a tree under it (making it stuck inside it) and preventing it from freezing anyone anywhere (by cuttiing the LOS in 360deg) but it's not. The drone will get knocked aside by the tree, and shifted from the center of the Blizzard. Which is quite interesting, and possibly the only way to shift it horizontally. It's also possible to lift the drone upwards with the Platform, potentially effectively cancelling the blizzard altogether (if you're quick enough to jump off it before you'll get frozen yourself.
Can mercy slingshot off of the tree of life? Can tree of life healing be used to survive burst? Does tree of life stop sojurns e? Can tree of live be used reactably to stop rein shatter? Can grip be used to allow hog to one shot with hook?
@@Das_Ungeheuer Or bring back the Super Oppressive Graviton Surge that locks out all movement. Period. But that might make Zarya TOO strong since Grav would no longer have a counter at that point. I think that's why they walked back that change in the first place: because it became too oppressive and uncounterable.
3:36 hold up wait wait wait this is a good thing think about it bob is always next to a wall which minimizes his area control what if you had him stand directly in the middle of a control point with this? They just can’t stop it!
There's so many possibilities with Lifeweaver so leave more myths in the comments. Also playing Lifeweaver viewer games all week at twitch.tv/karq come say hi 🌸
Sure
How many many passing gifts can you have at once
torbjorn can put turrets in the tree of life?
Cool little intro
A myth I saw somewhere else, but what happens if you life grip a friendly roadhog who is in the process of hooking an enemy? Like would the enemy just go flying around the map after hog or would hook just be cancelled
If you place the tree of life right where Snowball is does it block LOS entirely, basically cancelling the ult?
Edit: Now that this post is so popular I'll add something else, I saw a clip of the push robot moving the tree of life, i think if you went near the bot it would of maybe moved the tree at 00:53
you can also lift it with the petal
That's what I'm wondering too
yes, although the tree branches do have some gaps so be careful. Overall though he was a good mei counter in my games tonight; he could keep high ground over her, rescue enemies that she isolated, dash away if she came at him. (The mei expressed frustration at getting 2 support counters in a row, which: fair.)
1:38 "So now we have a moving, portable, healing aura"
We already had that, it's called a payload!
payload 2.0
It's also called Lucio.
@Grise Blacolar yeah like lucio's actually use the heal😂
Only while its moving but yes
Oh yeah yeah
Even if you don’t speed up that sound barrier there’s still value in protecting him while in flight
Plus it could be used when the ult is needed but lucio is too far away to get there in time, very niche but plausible.
Specially from a nearby Sombra
You hear the voiceline and then just stare it him in bubble and wait. I feel like it gives you a longer window to try to cancel it ie widow headshot
and i love it
I wonder if you life pull him on top of the car (while you’re on the ground) if you could get him to do it faster
Can Reinhardt pin a second target after Lifeweaver has saved a first from a pin? My first thought would be that he can, but would be interesting to see it tested out!
Yes. As long as Rein has his hands free, he'll grab whoever is in front of him.
@@ForeverDegenerate And aptly slam the poor sod
yes，since he can pin a second target when his first pinned target is killed during the pin，he can pin another one when the first one is life griped
Yes, happened to me earlier today, I saved the tank and rein pinned the mercy after😭
It's funny how emong also tested out if you can pedal platform teammates from zarya's graviton surge and yes, it works as well. However, zarya can place a graviton surge on the wall and that way you can't save teammates but you can just lifegrip one of them anyways so long as lifeweaver doesn't get caught in the ult
Does anyone know what happens if Zar gravs you on a platform lift on Hollywood? Does the grav move up with the platform or do enemies get out of grav from the platform? This Lifeweaver lift should act the same way as the Hollywood platforms do
@@PayMeToThrow theoretically it would work exactly like lifeweavers platform since grav has no collision so yes it will disconnect you
Nothing should be able to escape Zarya ult IMO
@@LastAphelion Nothing is a bit of a stretch, there should be some abilities to let you out
@@LastAphelion just no, every ability should have counterplay. Nobody wants a champion with a win-button as an ult.
Questions for next mythbuster:
When tree of life is up, can lifeweaver generate ult chage for next tree? If yes:
If the tree of life is destroyed early, can lifeweaver generate ult charge once the tree is broken or once the actual ult duration ends?
Lifeweaver cannot generate Ult charge while Tree of Life is active, but he can generate Ult charge once it is destroyed since destroying the Tree ends the Ult - I found this out while testing Lifeweaver in the Practice Range. Hope this helped!
If you life grip an ally and Roadhog hooks them at the same time, do they snap in half?
😂
Tested it, the hook bounces off
@@PuddleWaterIsTheBestWater What if Roadhog hooks first, then LifeWeaver pulls immediately after?
@@HB-fq9nn I would guess that lifeweaver overrides the hook but I haven’t tested it so I have no idea
@@HB-fq9nn probably would cancel hook
It being able to sit on the payload is actually pretty sick
Sombra ones:
Can you leave translocator on top of a petal platform? If so, could the platform be lifted up to the ceiling if someone gets off mid-lift, and then does the translocator get destroyed?
Can stealth sombra activate petal platform?
Emong made a video as well he does cover this topic. I believe the answer is no translocator either falls off or explodes if in air. Should probably fact check me on this though
@@noskillz8351 it does just fall off, she can’t teleport on the tree.
@@noskillz8351 translocator gets destroyed I believe
As No SkillZ said, Emongg made a mythbusters vid of his own, overlapping with some topics covered in this video. One such myth tested was the translocator one. It gets destroyed with the platform IIRC.
No idea about stealth activating the platform though. I'll have to test that out on my own.
6:41 Something similar happened to me with Reaper's Wraith Form. Using it cancelled the life grip when I tried to yoink him out of the enemy backline.
if you life grip a hog that's also hooking an enemy, does it extend the range of the hook?
Yes, as long as LOS is not broken
Thresh + Blitz style
And if you try to pull an ally that is being hooked, do you break the enemy's hook ? Or does it cancel the pull ? Or does it only pull at the end of the pull animation ? If it cancels the pull does it still activate the pull cool-down ?
1:30 the tree of life actually does travel on the robot, it looks so funny we had it in a game i could send the code
9:00 if you place the tree of life directly in the middle of blizzard, does it work as hard cover from all angles?
Speaking from a game developer's point of view, I'd guess no. Most likely the raycast checks for LOS would begin inside the collision mesh, and raycasts beginning inside a mesh typically don't hit that mesh.
i think someone tested it and found out that it does. works on sigma ult too
"Sombra is one of the hardest counters to Lifeweaver". Sombra is one of the hardest counters to half the roster.
Except not really. She's pretty useless most of the time
1:24 If Lifeweavers’ flower platform is activated and is thus in front of the cart does the payload/pushbot destroy it?
Can you stall on the tree of life with Mercy or Echo’s glide?
Yes you can
Can stun moves like Reinhardt Charge, Brigette Shield Bash, and Doom Punch break Life Grip?
Also, 0:54 was funny to me because I just finished a watching God Of War playthrought and started God Of War: Ragnarok.
as a sombra main, lifeweaver's addition makes me happy in a cruel cruel way
oh, you're one of these "no fun allowed" huh
Indeed, brother 😂😂
LMAOOOOO YOUR GRANDDAD IS SUFFERING IN HELL MEANWHILE IM BREATHING FRESH AIR AND MAKING BETTER CONTENT
bro is the fun police lmao
@@yall_girl_eve that's the best way to play sombra duh
I’d love a quick list of movement abilities that do/do not get you out of a friendly lifeweaver’s grip. I know soldier’s dash doesn’t, but I’m not sure about some: ball’s grapple, brig’s shield bash, Lucio’s anything?, bap’s power jump, junkrat’s concussion mine… at this point I think it’s a shorter list of who can’t get out of lifeweaver’s grip. (Which is great, don’t get me wrong.)
Moira’s fade cancels life grip, I know that.
I think Echo's flight cancels it
Can lifeweaver's pull bring an ally towards him if it lands on the same moment as a roadhog hook?
Yes
Blizzard is just trying to break their own game now. The first three heroes for OW2 and even Rammatra for the most part were pretty standard. But those ults are kinda crazy, plus Lifeweaver’s entire tool kit. The game is going to be played very differently.
I can already hear Fitzy just having an absolute field day right now 😂
I wanted to see what happened to the sym turrets once the tree disappeared. Would they just break or fall to the ground?
They just fall to the ground.
Since the Tree of Life comes with 1000 HP, I'm wondering if Bob would shoot it if there's no enemy in his sight.
The power of love is so strong that, in a game where every construct is destroyed by the robot and the payload, his stuff isn't affected.
Like zarya's, another ult he can bypass with life grip is sigma's gravitic flux
I really want them to recolor the tree it’s so uncomfy… it’s even got veins
1:37 Funny enough the payload is already a movimg healing aura for attackers 😅
Somehow I did actually put it on the robot. I think it placed itself on the wall it pushes so it does move.
The lucio beat pull to the ground seems like it is useless but it could save your lucio mid beat so your team gets the extra health.
Specially from Sombra's hack or EMP
im going to start putting my tree of life onto the payload more often now, that way my teammates would actually push it xD
With the Sym turrets, Tree of Life has became Tree of Death
sym placing turrets on the tree of life or wrecking ball grappling to the tree of life could be called forbidden fruit play :P
Time for the ultimate troll comp, Ball, Symmetra, Mei, Lifeweaver, and Lucio.
I saw in another video a possible yo yo comp: Winston/Ball, Sombra/Tracer, Pharah/Junkrat, Mercy/Kiriko, Lifeweaver
I’ve not tested it in season 4 but in season 3 if a wrecking ball was in fireball and went through a sym tp the fireball damage is doubled to 100 instead of 50
You did a few about Bob, but what I’ve been wondering is can you use Life Grip to pull Bob? Could allow you to move him into a more favorable position if Ashe misplaced him or the enemy team moves.
yes, they released a whole game mode involving that mechanic
Can sombra hack the parting gift?
Can the shimadas climb the tree of life?
Does the push bot or payload destroy an active petal platform?
@KarQ can you use DVA's ultimate in life grip and will the mech keep the momentum gained from life grip? Could be cool to also see that comboed with sym teleport if so.
Thank you for this video. Many Questions are answered now.
Is Parting Gift deflectable by Genji? If so, will it heal the enemy team more then?
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No because it's a drop, not a projectile. Lotus, however, can be Deflected. I wonder if they fixed the bug...?
What's with the voice at 6:03? Is there something I'm not in the know about?
Yeah its so weird
Nice vid. Does Bob/ Torb Turret lock onto tree of life?
Regardless, placing a Tree in front of Bob seems like one of the best counters to a very strong ult (depending on bob’s DPS)
Remember that Bob and torb turret will try shooting the same targets that Ashe or Torb are shooting though
If you place a petal on the ground and then Tree of Life on it and activate it with your own character, then it goes up. and still heals underneath the petal.
I think you can also lift up enemy LW's Tree of Life to remove the enemy team's cover, but it's very tricky to get the hitboxes right, since the petal will be around the Tree's edges.
If Orisa ults before Life Grip, does it interact in a similar way to Symmetra teleport?
Also can Orisa cast or cancle her ult while being pulled by Life Grip?
she cannot be life griped during her ult I saw Emongg test it
0:47 you can actually move the robot and the tree will stay inside him, making it mobile. Bit tricky to position but i've already seen it more than once.
Lifeweaver in a nutshell:
- pull teammate to a dangerous spot
- see them die
- say "just a prank bro"
Where’s that Sombra rework they said we were getting in S4? Looks like Lifeweaver will be another character that anyone who eats glue can hard counter simply by picking Sombra…
Can you cancel the immortality field by putting the tree in it like with the Mei wall? And can you pull a Pharah while they're using their ultimate? seems useful. Does pedal platform unfreeze people stuck in Mei's ult since it breaks the line of light for them?
You can Pull anyone with a Channeled Ult while they Ult. Some you have to wait for their activation animation finish first, though. Conversely, anyone can Ult while being Pulled. And, specifically to your question, Pharah has been tested. As has Reaper, Cassidy, Orisa, and DVa.
Can you please test the effects of a lifeweaver pull on echo stickies? Do they stay attached to an enemy if they get pulled?
Can the petal platfrom go THROUGH a payload? I mean you put the platform on the ground,the payload is above it and THEN you activate the platfrom. What happens in this instance? o.O
The petal just doesn’t activate
If you are in an enemy dome with any enemy and PPP yourself up will it also lift the enemies and/or the Winston dome?
Mei interacting wirh Lifeweaver's Grip does allow for some troll, but much like everything about Mei's wall, it has a lot of potential with the proper reaction time
great video karl Q!
I life gripped the other support out of a Rein charge earlier in a tough team fight and A) I think it was the only reason we won the fight, so I'm glad it works and B) The Rein was so confused. He literally looked around like "where did she go???"
"Can Symmetra put turrets on the Tree of Life? Yes!"
Tree of Death comfirmed.
Quite ironic that life weaver and symmetra have good synergies
can doomfist punch the tree and stun people around it similarly to meis wall?
Imagine a whole tree moving across your house
Wild
Does echo get reduced cc from ana’s sleep when duplicating tanks?
One myth I wanna see is, since Lifeweaver throws the platform can Genji deflect it?
I would like to see that, but the platform would work the same no matter who's side it's on 😂. If anything it would be worse for ur team since they can't shoot it down
nope
No, he can't
wow, ball being able to grapple onto the platform might be a nice synergy for a ball comp
Sombra mains heavy breathing rn
Here's a myth for you: can the healing of Tree of Life be amplified by Baptiste Amp Matrix if you stand on one side and the tree on the other?
I'll predict no. Amp matrix amplifiers projectiles, not auras.
I have two ctf questions, can life weavers tree of life block people from picking up flags? Also, if he pulls someone with the flag will it drop?
Lifeweaver being able to save someone from a Reinhardt charge is insane
It's not that special. Ana (sleep or nano), Bap (lamp), Kiri (suzu), Lucio (beat), DF (punch), Orisa (javelin), another Rein (charge), Hog (hook), Sig (rock), Zarya (bubble or grav) and Sombra (hack) could already do that.
@@clonkex I forgor. But I mean, lifeweaver does it so much easier than all of those, so it's still pretty crazy. All he gotta do is look in that direction and yoink
@@clonkex if those players are competent enough
@@ronzology That's his utility. That's literally the point of the character.
I do like that you can get someone unstuck from Zarya's grav. That's something suzu cannot do
Video production quality is so good 👌
"Please don't use Mei's ice block to troll your team"
Me, only playing Lifeweaver to troll in the first place: "Haha yeahhh why would anyone do that..?"
9:45 what happens to the Sym turrets after the tree gets destroyed/goes away?
I'll probably test these myself anyway, but a few ideas.
1) Does a raised Petal Platform placed on a map's moving platform travel with the map platform or stay suspended in one spot?
2) Can Petal Platform raise up Snowball? (Especially useful on Oasis University)
3) Does Petal Platform support Mei walls, and if so, what kinds of shenanigans happen when the wall rises with the platform?
4) Do traps, mines, etc on a dismissed Petal Platform fall, get destroyed, or stay suspended? Junkrat, Ball, etc.
Emongg tested a few of these, so I'll try and answer these from memory.
1) I don't think he tested this.
2) Yes. Mei's ult has no effect on those below the platform while Snowball is on the platform.
3) I think it does, probably works the other way around too.
4) I don't think any stay suspended. Most get destroyed with the platform, such as Sombra's translocator, Junkrat's trap (maybe his mine too), and others of that nature. Good luck landing one of Ball's mines on a platform though.
Got to disagree with the Lucio one (7:40). If Lucio jumps from high up you definitely pull him down faster. To top it off, you prevent Lucio from dying and guarantee the beat.
What happens if you pull an ally that is getting hooked ? Do you break the hook or does the hook block the pull ?
I'm a symmetra main in a 4 stack with a Diamond Reinhardt and 2 support players - we thought Wife Leaver's pull would help our tank the most but it turns out it actually helps me the most.
I'm a very aggressive symm player, on one Route 66 game we had today I didn't die once and just melted my way through the enemy hog and echopharmacy. It allows me to push even further to get triple beam charge then get out instantly allowing me to more reliable get picks - since I no longer have to worry about my tp breaking, I can stay in the fight longer.
I think to make Lifeweaver way more interesting, they should give Tree of Life like 10k HP, an absolutely massive health pool. But here would be a couple nuances I've thought of:
-Increase size by 20-25% of the actual prop
-Make it a platform that can be stood on, and you can't slide off it like you can right now, essentially a new physical thing to account for
-Healing is only distributed by the tree when it takes damage, and the healing is equivalent to the damage it takes x0.4
-Tree can't be instantly destroyed, but when EMP'd, hacked, et cetera, loses health without distributing healing.
Leave any other ideas down below. I'd love to respond or see what criticisms there may be with my design. My goal is to make the ult seem fun, not necessarily with competitive in mind (I still live by the idea that competitive and quick play need separate balance patches).
Can you trap someone in room with the life of tree? (Like blocking the door)
5:09 For me, it would be great if we can regenerate some of our teammate's HP when they Life Gripped.
It's kinda sad if we Life Grip our teammate but they ended up dying just because they got some debuff (like burn or poison)
I think since life grip doesn't prevent use of primary fire, as long as you charge heals mid use and not beforehand, u can prevent DOTs from executing fatally damaged allies by healing them before the life grip shield even vanishes (to a limit at least).
@@wilsan4919 ohhh, never knew that we can heal while Life Gripping...
Gonna try when already unlock it later
Thanks ✨
Using the pedal to lift bob is by far one of the underrated abilities
I wouldn't call it underrated. Considering there's a temporary Arcade game mode called Bob and Weave, which is literally two teams of Lifeweavers with a Bob, and so that combo is constantly used. xD
Yes, sombra is a very good and strong counter to lifeweaver!
Can any ability like maybe a boop or invulnerability object (suzu, lamp, idk what else) stop the enemy from picking up parting gift?
If you haven’t found out by now, you can put the tree of life ON the petal platform. It will only work if you place the petal platform down first, and then put the tree on top of it. If you raise it, it will still heal you too. Unsure if it’ll heal while directly underneath it.
7:24 could use this to slingshot a genji in the air and nano him which will allow him to dash before his ult if he needs it
8:57 can you also put the tree in the middle of the mei ult to prevent LoS in a 360°, negating its effects completely?
9:39 what happens to the turrets after the tree disappears? do they fall off, float mid air, or get destroyed with the tree?
Got a ton here so good luck:
Can tree of life healing be boosted by an Ana nade?
Can you put a petal platform on a Mei wall?
If so, What happens when Mei's wall is destroyed?
Can you put a Mei wall on a petal platform?
If so, what happens when the petal platform is destroyed?
Can you put Rammatra's Ravenous Vortex on a petal platform?
If torb's turret is where the petal platform is placed, can it get lifted up? (alternately if its above the platform)
Can the Petal platform break LOS for mei's blizzard? (as in can someone standing right underneath the platform, and also underneath snowball survive being frozen)
Can the Petal Platform break Wrecking ball's mines? (his ult)
Can Genji/Hanzo/Kiriko climb up the tree of life and petal platform?
What happens of you put a petal platform underneath another petal platform?
Wait, what happens to the sym turrets after tree expires??
Does minefield land on top of the tree of life? Does minefield activate petal platform?
Has anyone tested if his petal hitboxes on his back stop him from getting headshot from behind? I dont imagine they do but just thought of it randomly.
Is it better to hold his heal to let it charge or just spam it?
7:53 it is still worth it if you have the grip and see your lucio pulling off that shit just to make sure he doesnt get Ajaxed
Myth: spamming the heal button fast(only doing 10 healing per flower) is more Healing per second than maxing the heal(65 healing per flower but takes more time).
Can you activate petal platform while there's a mei wall on top of it?
Can the petal platform move shields like rammatras and sigmas
And If you put the petal pratform, than a mei wall, them the enemy Petal pratform
Also, it's possible to lift the tree up after placing it on a Platform and then dropping it back down.
Since ToL cuts LOS from Blizzard drone preventing players from being frozen I wanted to know if it's possible to 'encase' the drone by putting a tree under it (making it stuck inside it) and preventing it from freezing anyone anywhere (by cuttiing the LOS in 360deg) but it's not. The drone will get knocked aside by the tree, and shifted from the center of the Blizzard. Which is quite interesting, and possibly the only way to shift it horizontally.
It's also possible to lift the drone upwards with the Platform, potentially effectively cancelling the blizzard altogether (if you're quick enough to jump off it before you'll get frozen yourself.
Can dvas defence matrix’s eat life weavers petal (as its thrown)
Does rein meelee do damage faster than the primary fire?
Can mercy slingshot off of the tree of life? Can tree of life healing be used to survive burst? Does tree of life stop sojurns e? Can tree of live be used reactably to stop rein shatter? Can grip be used to allow hog to one shot with hook?
If u place PPP on top of Mei's wall and Mei takes wall down will the PPP float?
I think zaryas ultimate might need some looking at soon. We now have Kiriko and lifeweaver that completely counters it
I totally agree. Maybe they need to do what they did with dodge abilities and give the protection but not the displacement option
@@Das_Ungeheuer Or bring back the Super Oppressive Graviton Surge that locks out all movement. Period. But that might make Zarya TOO strong since Grav would no longer have a counter at that point. I think that's why they walked back that change in the first place: because it became too oppressive and uncounterable.
Can you cancel a friendly Junkrat ultimate by using life grip during the animation? (same window as you can cancel it with a Sombra hack)
Question from stream: what is the optimal hps, rapid fire or fully charged? Answer from stream: currently 30-40 is optimal.
3:36 hold up wait wait wait this is a good thing think about it bob is always next to a wall which minimizes his area control what if you had him stand directly in the middle of a control point with this? They just can’t stop it!