Top 5 worst MOS in the Army - Worst jobs to have?
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- There are a lot of jobs or MOS's in the Army. Not all of them are great jobs to have. If I were to pick 5 MOS's that I think are the worst jobs to have in the Army, then these MOS's would be on my list.
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A little tip for 11B wannabes: quite a few people did national guard component as 11B and they basically get the sweetest deal because they live their life as usual but still go thru the training and field exercises and some of them can even volunteer for deployments if they’re lucky. That basically means you are a part time infantryman and have an option to be a full time infantryman when a deployment with another unit comes up. Something worth considering I think.
Glorified security guard with a boom stick. Laughs in Halloween costume wearing NVGS that just couldn’t handle the real Army.
genuinely feel like this comment was here for me lol. thanks bro
@@ashtonbeale No problem high speed 🤘
@@derkdiggler4634 despite the fact that nasty girls are older than the army itself my guy 🫱🏻🫡
I will be joining 11b this year as National Guard and my recruiter praises it! Looking forward to it.
My dad was a psychologist for the VA. The majority of his patients were Vietnam Vets. He said the absolute worst cases of PTSD he dealt with was those in graves registration. He said those patients were unreachable and untreatable.
That's because 100% of those troops were draftees who were forced to do it in country. That situation hasn't existed for decades and has nothing to do with the modern job at all.
@@cplassen2138 I disagree with you, my scoutmaster over in Japan was career Military with family. He was sent to DaNang AB in February 1968 and stayed there until February 1969, he worked Graves Registration, he left Japan as kind of like Bob Hope and when he returned he was a dark shadow of himself.
@@snowyowlz5992 Don't be an asshole. There's exceptions to every rule. And it sounds like, that guy got drafted in the first place and stayed in.
CP Lassen, not all os us who went to RVN were draftees. About 1/3 of us were. I was. Unless you were around for the Vietnam War and the draft, it’s hard to imagine. I was there for the later part of the war. Men end up damaged and bitter for life. And if people remember, Congress, the Presidency, and politics insured that we did not go to war to win. the injustice of selective service, et cetera along with getting blamed for the loss of the Vietnam War.
I personally believe that everyone physically and mentally capable should go in involuntarily to perform military and non military jobs.
@@user-em1sj5ph6h I for one volunteered for military service willingly. Thanks for serving and welcome home.
I was a Tanker 19E / 19K and one thing I was an expert at was sweeping the sun off the concrete in the Motorpool.
Same thing for 11B as well. The only time we could do our job was in the field, so we are pretty much glorified janitors with the amount of sweeping and mopping we do on a daily basis, especially in the middle of the desert because of all the sand that gets blown around
92S could go into laundry services at large companies. As in hospitals, schools, and also commercial cleaning services such as Cinstas. A uniform is a uniform. They don’t always have to be camo.
i would and will hate my life doing laundry 🤣 most definitely not something i don’t see anyone wanting to do.
I think FEMA as well has laundry services for disaster relief.
Doing laundry in the miliary and civilian world is the same: they both suck ass and boring.
I just don’t see how anyone could walk into a recruiters office and want to be a 92s, at least go 18x, you’re an 11b and get the opportunity to go to selection and you’re automatically Airborne!
“The army is not all sunshine and rainbows”….did anybody else get flashbacks of field problems, CQ, road guard, connex layouts, CoC ceremonies, etc….
Those friggen CoC ceremonies were the worst. Standing at attention for 2 hours in 93 degree heat waiting for some flag officer who doesn't give a shit about you.....and don't lock your knees 🤪
We have one this Friday… and I won’t be there because I’m starting SFLTAP Monday 😈
@@billydamac shit I been out for a while 😂 it was ACAP when I was in
Connex layouts are the worst. Move things from one connex to the other, just to move it all back afterwards. Ive done that plenty of times. And then layouts where you are told to get it done as soon as possible, just for the XO or commander to not show up and have to repack it all back up, just to do the same thing the next day. Ft Bliss was notorious for that. Motor pool Mondays were horrible as well. Least favorite thing to ever have to do, especially if you are part of the vic crew. Until the Vic’s are locked up, you have to sit with them. Not to bad in the winter time when the temp was only in the 60’s or lower, but middle of the summer when it’s 100° out, it was horrible. At least the guys not on a vic crew could go inside the cof to the air conditioning and clean weapons or teach classes.
Fun stuff for an 11c 😆
Hats off to Cooks; the unsung heroes of the U.S. Army.
Laundry Specialist does six, gets a business degree and walks into a 6 figure hotel management. Inglorious, sure; Financially sound, assuredly. Not my MOS, just saying
Yeah, I would never knock 92S or any other quartermaster specialty.
To quote the Starship Troopers recruiter, "Infantry made me the man I am today." Infantry creates leaders and if you stick around long enough, you will have increasing amounts of responsibility with Soldiers looking to you as an example and for leadership. You will have plenty of stories to tell and if needed actually do what you train for which may or may not sit well with your mental state. I had a great deal of adventure in the infantry, but you must keep in mind the toll it takes on the body. After 20 years of service my ankles, knees, and hip sockets are messed up, my back is messed up (from carrying heavy loads day in and day out), the arches of my feet caved in, shoulder impingements and a destroyed wrist from all the pushups (your wrist cartilage will shred over the years dependent on how you place your hands relative to your body). When you are built like a body builder, you find yourself carrying the heavier weapons increasing the toll the body takes compared to the everyone else. If you decide to go Infantry learn everything you can to help preserve your joints.
You will have plenty of adventure even if you don't go see combat. I remember my dad saying at my retirement ceremony, "you have double, if not more overseas stripes than everyone else in the ceremony." That was a result of the combat deployments, but for training and temporary duty, you will go to some places you least expect. I ended up seeing Europe, visiting Australia, going all over Southeast Asia, Papua New Guinea (22 days in the jungle living on a stilted wooden hut, no plumbing so no running water). If the outdoors isn't for you this is definitely not the MOS for you. Now if the outdoors is for you, you will sleep under the stars in some very interesting places, you may climb mountains all over the world, hunt animals and fish with installations that cater to Soldiers getting ample opportunity to do so... what an adventure!
infantry creates profiles and va ratings, alcoholics and baby daddies, and car salesman after you get out broken and have nothing to show for it.
As a 19D veteran, I am grateful and thankful for all of these MOS'es that were listed as the worst, as they are the ones who kept me fed, clothed, supported... while I took the risks locating or harassing the enemy.
I am a female and wanted a job as close to combat that females were allowed back then ('95). So, I chose 16T, PATRIOT Missile Crewperson, ADA. I think it has a different designation now... Anyway, I was all ready to do this and at the final MEPS thing, they were recruiting for other MOS'. They tried to get me to switch to another MOS, specifically some kind of office clerk type MOS (don't remember what the number was now). They even made me watch a recruiting video about it: picture cool music accompanied by images of.... people sitting at desks and filling out paperwork...lol
I literally almost cried! No! I want an adventure!!!! lol
Luckily, I was guaranteed my 16T job, and that's what I did.
But I'll never forget that.
I was a 14/ 16S from 94 to 97. Loved it. The second time I went in as a 54B. Liked it, but really missed the ADA, for sure. Glad you stuck to your guns.
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Glad you were able to stick to what you wanted. I started the 16R school and then was pulled out of it due to less than a year left in service.
💯 I was 16 P/16S basic training in Fort Bliss. The original home of ADA. Where is small family 👍🏼 with pretty high ASVAB scores😂
@@funnyfarm5555💯🤔 it was always good to know there was a Vulcanner in your same grid😂
@archieletsyouknow5508 Yep.... Bliss. Liked it there a lot. Grew up in Florida, so desert and good Mexican food was a nice change of pace.
I had a guy ship out to basic with me who was a 92m so he could get his morticians license. His family had several funeral homes in New Jersey and it’s somewhat expensive and takes a long time. He told me it’s stream lined and a lot quicker in the military.
interesting
Interesting twist on portability of skill training.
I was the assistant theater Mortuary Affairs Officer during OIF based in Kuwait (supporting from Djibouti in East Africa to the Afghanistan - Pakistan border) and this is where I became aware of the true reason to avoid this MOS - 92M as it becomes obvious in deployed remains recovery missions. We had teams that had to do recoveries of remains that had been found floating in water after several days (I will not describe condition of remains, your imagination is probably bad enough.) or from an aircraft crash where small pieces of the remains are spread over hundreds of meters and you do a grid search like at an archeological dig to ensure no parts are missed.
This was the same scenario as when the World Trade Center was destroyed. Digging through the rubble to find all the pieces.
Then each bagged part is individually logged then each piece undergoes DNA testing to match the pieces to the person then combined in one container, the container is then with great care sealed then wrapped and safety pinned neatly in a new wool Army blanket, this very small generally package is then placed in a coffin behind a perfectly set up with all rank, branch symbols, unit patches, awards, and badges shown as earned on their 201 file on an empty perfectly by the regulation dress green uniform before the coffin is released from Dover MA Center for transport to the funeral home near military members HoR is for the funeral. Seeing this display in progress at the Dover MA Center was an experience I will never forget from the unit stopping at Dover Air Base headed to Kuwait.
The recovery duties of this MOS will psychologically break most people and leave no one unchanged. The personnel who don't deploy only working morgue duty are lucky ones also this is why rank is easy to make in this MOS as there is a very high turn over. If you pray, please pray for these as they go through Hell on Earth at times. Major US Army Retired
I am a 92M.
@@flavorchemist I was in when we were still training to fight the USSR in Europe. So there wasn’t much of that that the 92mikes had to deal with. I became a Police Officer in NJ and volunteered to go over to the Fresh Kills landfill and sift through the debris that was trucked over from ground zero. Not a nice thing. But when you found a tooth or hair you felt that you were helping the families of those killed.
Thank you, you are a true hero. The Dover visit was the most life changing event for me. I was on my way to Kuwait with the Theater Support Command from NOLA as the Deputy Theater Mortuary Affairs Officer. I only saw undescribable pictures and ensured the Service Member's safe and honored transportation back home. The teams had the real trial on the ground from Djibouti to the Afghanistan - Pakistan boarder. I listened to them as they needed release and their talking seemed to help them a tiny bit. They had seen some of true horrors of War. Thank you again as the World Trade Center was much like combat in its destruction, loss, and misery caused. Michael Fields Major US Army Retired @@mbendero
As a former 11B, I went on 1 deployment. If you are an 11B, never got to Ft Lewis. The area is beautiful, you will spend more time in the field then you will in garrison. But my other 2 duty stations, I loved everything about it. Ft Bliss was great and I loved Ft Campbell. But as an 11b, your body will break down from all the weight you will carry, plus all the rucks and running you do on a daily basis. I would know because I’m not medically retired because of my legs and back. But I’d do it all over again. Gave me a lot of experience in a leadership role and the brotherhood you join since you spend more time with the other soldiers then you do at home with your family if you are married.
Watching that footage of the cooks brought back some great memories. People love to complain but 3 (free) hot meals a day was always great.
Hot chow in the field or in Garrison is always a great thing! Everyone looks forward to that and payday!
A well reasoned, carefully thought out list! Great video as usual.
As soon as you said in the beginning that the last one was going to be controversial, I knew you were gonna say 11B. And as a non-deployed 11B I felt like this was very accurate
It’s a tale of 2 sides. Met multiple 11B’s that have 5+ deployments, and met some E6’s with 0 deployments who have had privates who deployed. It’s crazy. Just depends on which duty station you go to. For the ones who go to Ft Lewis, unless you are part of ranger bat or group, you are never going to get to deploy.
I was 92G for 7 years !!! This is all true about long hours and weekends. But I did a lot of connelly cooking competitions and got many awards and promoted faster than most of my peers.
Dude I was also a 92G,also did 7 yrs !!! LOL. Didn't do any cooking competitions tho,but got promoted to sgt in my first 4 months in the army.Came in as an E-4,prior service navy. GO ARMY !!! LOL.
How were the hours?
@@tatianaleejimenez never ending. Unless you luck out and end up in a dfac that isn't open on the weekends.
92G is on the list no doubt.
Do t hate on us ,🤣🤣🤣🤣
They rank up so fast though
@@ChaoticBean794 Getting rank as a 92G is not worth it. Better to just change your job.
Filthy spoons.
What is that, a cook?
I am thankful I took my dad's advice before I entered the US Army. He told me, Son, Study for the entrance examination. I did and scored pretty high. He was in the Infantry for 4 yrs and hated it. Why is this important? Because you get a chance to choose from multiple MOS; s. if you score high on the test. Recruiters will offer bonuses for some hard to fill jobs. But I got what I wanted.... Military Intelligence. I stayed in for 6 yrs. Got to see Europe and the Far East. So, my advice is to study for the entrance exam unless you really want to go 11 bang-bang, explosives, tanks or combat. Trust me, you will be glad you did.
Ooh, what was your M.O.S.?
I am currently an 88N but I want to reclass to the MI branch (as a 35M).
I got 95th percentile on the Asvab...and went 13 F.
I scored 2 nd highest in My training battalion .I choose to be a Jeep Gunner Cav Scout ..Rat Patrol brainwashed Me ..that and free ammo.
I did 6 years in the AF as a 98G equivalent (Russian Linguist). I got hit by a reduction in forces in 87 and bounced around as a full time civilian for a bit over a year. I then found an Intel slot in an Army Reserve unit. I ended up doing just short of 20 years in the Army, some of it Reserves, some Active, and finally retiring from the Guard. I went for a Commission and retired as an O-3. I would have to say the best job I had in all of my years was that of a Platoon Leader. I spent my entire career in the Intel Community. These days I work for Home Depot and use my Russian speaking skills on a nearly daily basis. Over 40 years since I finished that course and I still have the skills I learned as a young E-3.
Never turn down free ammo or explosives
Originally, the military for me was my "if all else fails" plan. Seeing those war movies made me want to do some high-speed action shit as an infantryman or CE. However, it took the Internet and talking to vets to bring me into reality.
As I used to tell my applicants at MEPS, don't worry about the military if you're going to make a shit load of money, if you're already there, or close to it, keep doing what you're doing, but if you're working at Wal-Mart or some other krappy job, enlist. I didn't have to worry about rent, I didn't have to worry about utilities, I knew what I was going to wear each day, I knew I had a guaranteed job, I knew where I had to be, it was the NCO's that made it bad, that's why I got out, and regret it to this day, I'm going to regret it for the rest of my life, I should have never left, but if you're going to do it, pick a job that transfers to the civilian world, you can be S6, or you can pick a craft, depending on your ASVAB, you can get pretty much anything, but you know, when you apply for a office building high rise type job, they're not going to care you were Infantry.
@@armybeef68 What was your MOS?
Shoutout to all of my fellow 11B’s. Embrace the suck 😂✊🏼. We learn to live with it, and sometimes it really isn’t that bad.
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i couldn't resist it
11B ✊🏽
11bang baby
Lol my recruiter is trying to talk me out of 11b
If you could replace one of the MOS's on my list with a different MOS, what would it be?
31 Miscellaneous
I wouldn't remove any you have I think it's a good list, I would just add 31B for the same reasons as 92G as far as schedules., and you're hated by most.
@@sdksniper we are definitely hated but it makes us closer to so alot of tight bonds
I agree with all. The 92 series sucks as a whole.....
12K (plumber) I've been in 3 years and have yet to do my job
I was a 12b combat engineer glorified grunt loved it
I was a 92G and I loved it, other than the DFAC there’s more to it that nobody understands. I was on my base’s culinary arts team and got to travel around, when my time came to re-enlist I decided to reclass for more days off. Switched to maintenance and everybody bashed me for it saying it was a bad idea and that mechanics work too much, I get way more time off that I reclassed
92G NCOs are cool as fuck, they all have this level of "fuck it" that is just too legendary to speak of.
@@TranceCore3 My drill sargent at Fort Lee, recently, was a 92G and he was a great guy!
P.S. My MOS was 88N though. But Fort Lee was teeming with 92Gs.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 I was a 91b, my company had cooks but they kinda did their own thing at the dfac
My buddy from high school ended up at Bragg with me as a cook. That dude wrangled the job as the night baker. What a sham!
@@TranceCore3 Golfs are great! Up at 3:00 prepping our meals, and then serving it to us with a smile. They were passionate about us having good chow. No complaints. Unsung Heroes. I did 23 years as 31M and 88N. If I were hiring for a civilian job... gimme me a "Golf!"
I was a 92S on my first contract. The cooks and grunts made sure we were taken care of. So much food, snacks, and beer was delivered daily. It was crazy that something so simple as a hot shower and clean clothes made people grateful. It can transition into the hospitality field such as hotel management, and I know a fellow soldier who is a professional tailor and can do some crisp work on suits. I'm an 88M now, and I know that's where I fit in best. Being a 92S gave me the driving skills needed to move the LADS and flatbeds of equipment all over the place. At least this was my experience.
100% about the cooks and their crazy schedules. Back in the day, we used to go to the DFAC to help our friend finish his Friday night shift, just so we could all go to the club 😎🎶
Where was this video back in 2005?
This video is 100% on point. Great content. Very relatable host. 👍🏼
91E you hit the nail on the head with them, the same with machinist.
92S I only met them in Albania in 1999, they set everything up but it didn’t seem like they did the mos much.
Chris, great job for your list. I was surprised by the last one and you convinced me the end. I missed 92 S for just one number. Love being 91 S and I enjoy doing my MOS, everyday. I also love how the Army loves 91 S qualified soldiers and how they try to find more recruits to fill in the those slots and needs. Go Strykers!
I enlisted after high school in 96 as a 11B with a Airborne school and a Ranger option immediately after boot camp, 27 years ago and 6 days I left on the adventure of a lifetime.
I’m 11b I join in 2019 & I’m in the 82nd deployed, in 2020 got a CIB seen combat got buddies at fort drum deployed to Afghanistan in 2020 got CIB seen combat it happens but rare like you said. If you wanna do high speed shit go to SF & or to rasp. I hate when people complain about not doing there job being a 11B to fight people on both sides people die & nothing can compare you to see you’re Buddy right next to you die. PS love the videos you got me right for my bored means a lot
Yeah that's the very nature of War.. people die... if you don't like that reality or you don't think you could do it, Don't volunteer.. obviously it still gonna suck and losing people is horrible as you mentioned but someone has to do the job sadly enough.
Man…i feel your pain in making this list. Every MOS is not just important…they’re absolutely vital. But i wouldn’t argue your picks or your reasons.
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I'm currently an 11B been deployed a few times and I agree 100 percent. but more so for what happens after you been serving as a light infantryman for awhile. really bad knee and back problems.
Nice objective points you put across for the 11B Infantry MOS, as most boys that have a dream of wanting to join the army have always wanted to be there even if it’s doesn’t translate to any specific career field outside the military but you too know that they’re there most respected MOS and the guys that get promoted the fastest and stand the chance of rising up to become the chief of the army compared to other MOS’, even on the Officer side.
I guess the clarity people need to have right now in 2022 is that joining the military is now part of planning their future career and they should think about if they just FULLY want enjoyment in their MOS’ of if they want one that can easily translate to other fields when they exit the military.
I was a grunt in the Marine’s. Loved it. I made sure wherever I went I made friends with cooks and supply personnel.
💯 agree with the 91-Exho.
On deployment our welder was told to grab a wrench 🔧 and start removing the 1/2 shafts. He found himself in the turret pulling security for our resupply missions. Not much welding.
As an 11B with 7 years TIS, I was extremely fortunate to catch one of the last Afghanistan deployments. I love the infantry and I’m not going to reclass, but if you’re joining right now expecting to go to war you need to adjust your sight picture a bit and might want to look at other options that could be more beneficial to you in the long run. Great video Chris.
Chris, I've been working my way through some of your videos and enjoying them. I bet you have corrected this by now, but your light ring is reflecting w/o back lighting. Look forward to watching more and have subscribed. BTW, I never served, but tried to join in '75 and was disqualified on medical (eyes) for helicopter pilot training. I watch your vids for what I missed!
92S is actually good if you want to learn how to make clothing and be a personal tailor, fashion designer, hotel manager, cosplayer, and a whole bunch of cool artsy civilian jobs. I want the 11B for the experience, but honestly, 92S sounds so much up my alley that I'll have to try it sometime.
I also chose 92S, because my grandma taught me how to sew and I was very artsy and quite creative
Being a 92S was my gateway to 88M since we had the LADS and flat beds of equipment to transport.
Infantry… well for starters it’s a family. The bonds that you form serving in the infantry are stronger than any family or fraternity. I did 6 years and nine month as 11bravo and to this day I remember every single leader I had, all of my bro’s and all of my Joe’s. I remember every single dude from basic and my battle buddy from basic is one of my best friends.
Really enjoyed this video.
Your point of view on these mos is totally respected, but there’s so much potential behind each of these job; specifically after serving.
What you make out of your blessings and skills is 💯 % up to you.
Thank you for getting these mos on the spot. Keep them coming.
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I was in a Quartermaster unit at in the 90's, which had Mortuary Affairs, Cooks and Laundry - Bath and Sewing (3 different MOS's back then). Other than running a clothing sewing repair shop, that MOS platoon was mostly in the motor pool or doing details until it was time to go to the field or deploy. The Mortuary Affairs MOS sometimes worked at the base Hospital morgue or trained at a local civilian hospital morgue. If they were not at those places, they were at the motor pool also. When deployed, they were assigned to or near hospital, MASH units, same as Mortuary Affairs. There, they worked 12 hour shifts. One thing I noticed was they got promoted to sergeant really, really, really fast. their cut scores for sergeant and staff sergeant dropped the lowest. This was back in 1993, 1994 for Mortuary, Laundry - Bath, and Sewing. Believe this, one of the Mortuary Affairs Specialist was Ranger Qualified. He trained and qualified to serve in a Long Range Surveillance Detachment with was all airborne and many Ranger Qualified personnel.
What do mortuary affairs do in garrison?
@@sithninjacowboyranger9803 As I said earlier, they worked at the morgue at the base hospital or even worked at a nearby local civilian hospital. Other than that, they worked in the motor pool doing whatever the commander wanted them to do.
@@gatosnegra281 since they're not trained to work on vehicles in the motor pool I don't see what good they were in the motor.
@@steel90912 with rare exceptions everybody does motor pool maintenance
@@torlekjpec5708 92M what have been the job that I had chosen but I had a recruiter who pushed me on being a construction engineer and it turned out to be a combat engineer. I really hated that MOS. 😤
I was a 45T. A mechanic in Bradley's. I was assigned in the end to drive a M88. I worked on all kinds of vehicles. I didn't do what I signed up for bur loved what I did!
M88, still going strong after 50+ years of service.
Excellent video. Pretty much accurate for 11B and 92S. Now a days. I had the opportunity to be in both MOS. I started as an 11B in 2010 when I switched over from the Navy Reserves. I had to learn a lot about the 11B MOS. I also had the opportunity to get stationed at Ft. Knox 2010-2013. Did one deployment to Afghanistan in 2011. Decided to go Army Reserves (Inactive) and switched to 92S. Every drill weekend my squad just dud training or was at the motorpool doing PMCS on vehicles because our 92S equipment wasn't working. But, only time I did do my MOS is when our unit went to Ft. McCoy for AT for a whole month. I guess times have changed for the 11B MOS not deploying as much. As a 11B I had the opportunity to learn a lot about that MOS. I even learned about the 11C MOS. One difficult one day class I too was a FO class. That class wasnt easy. I have no regrets on choosing 11B at first. I'm proud to say that I was a part of a family.
I really like the welding one AND I get get to work on vehicles. Count me in, those 2 were on my list.
If you want to work at kfc after the army just pick combat engineer.
Meh I’d say you could enter the construction field quite easily and be a foreman due to your service
said the 19K........LOL (not so much)
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You could, there are more marketable engineer MOS’s though.
I was a 92G and hours did suck. We had to do guard duties on top of it. A couple of times I didn’t sleep for days. When I got deployed I had one day off a week that I often had to give up to support other details. I was replaced by civilians and I ended up doing headcount mostly. A couple off holidays we talked officer’s and high ncos into serving so we would have off. I got stuck with CQ on those days.
Yeah I always felt bad for the chow hall folks. During Boot my squad had chow detail on Christmas and New Years. Both times the same people were working the kitchens.
When I was a 1Sgt of a DS Maintenance Co. I was surprised to learn that 92G cook was rated a heavy lifting MOS. It gave me a better understanding of the MOS.
When I was a 92M we spent most days in the motorpool. Unless we were going to the field or tasked out to the morgue in Richmond. Plan on being at Ft. Lee, VA as a 92M. At least at the start of your career. Also, there aren't a lot of 92M's in the Army, so there aren't a lot of promotions. I sat at E4 promotable for over a year because no one above was retiring... Deployments last around 6 months and you deploy every 1 1/2 years. I loved my job though! Especially when I actually got to do it and not be a grease monkey instead...
What did you transition into after you got out?
If they try to give you 92G at MEPS, get up and leave.
A friend enlisted as a welder and found himself, as you described, wrenching on wheeled vehicles more often than not. He re-classed to infantry a year later.
💯 agree with the 92-Golf.
Rough hours, however, I can only speak for my old unit, our cooks didn’t have to do PT. As long as they didn’t appear fat, our 1SG and leadership team turned a blind eye. And everyone was good with that.
My old roomie was a 92G, he worked days when I worked Mids as an MP. That dude got shit on more than anyone I know. What’s up Woodland!
I was a 56M (Chaplain Assistant). The pros are that you really only report to your battalion Chaplain (and brigade), you don't USUALLY get dragged into menial tasks like setting up for ceremonies and since most people don't know what you actually do, it is easy to pretend like you are busy.
The cons include- it is a lonely job as there is only one 56M per battalion so it can get pretty isolating. You do have to work some Sundays pulling chapel duty so be aware of that. You don't develop that automatic camraderie with other guys your same rank like in Infantry, Artillery, Cav Scouts etc. If you are deployed it is your job to set up the memorial service for a soldier KIA and they are really emotional and devastating so be warned of that aspect.
Ideally, if you are a 56M, the best assignment is to work directly for the Garrison (Chapel) instead of being attached to a regular combat unit which I was.
Where was your basic at?
@@lelandgaunt9985 Fort Jackson. Because the AIT school is on the same post.
I was a Chaplain Assistant (71M) 1985-88, it seemed like I was the Chain of Commands answer to THE DUTY ROSTER (usually DUTY DRIVER) And got an excellent vehicle taken away because it was too much for me to maintain and was given a piece of junk Jeep! Two terrible Chaplains I served directly with, the third was a true man of God. I went back to the MP's (I was prior Service! Promoted to E-5 within six months!)
91E here. Not a thing you mentioned is wrong. When I get to do my job I love every second of it and it’s kinda nice not having to weld every single day bc then I’d hate it and get burnt out. I enjoy being the problem solver to the jobs the bravos can’t do. Getting a big job completed is super satisfying because it’s usually something that benefits not only you but others as well. And I’ll be damned if I turn a wrench on a humvee lol. Nothing you say will convince me it’s not the best job I ever had though. If you’re thinking about joining as a 91E do it. We all work well together and the knowledge I’ve gained in my years can’t be matched. Thanks for the video!
Here I am, at the end of the list. #6 go ahead and order it wherever. 19D Cavalry Scout. Once known as mechanized infantry. A glorious amalgamation of several jobs, you get to drive cool things called Bradley Fighting Vehicles or Strykers however you get to do this cool thing called "level 10 tasks" which involves a large amount of the general vehicle maintenance on top of that the cool hq things associated with any company in the Army along with general details that you'd have to do along with a focus on weapons and tactics that you'd see with 11B. Basically, you're under utilized much like the bang bangs and it's just all around not a good time. But, I've been BRADROOLZ1. Thanks for taking the time and have a spectacular day.
My dad was WW2 infantry. He said don't do that, haha. I was 51B20 in the Corps of Engineers. Never worked as hard in civilian life. Many times we worked 7 days a week 18 hr days in Korea thru mud, rain and even -20F winter on DMZ. Not sure it would have been worse in Vietnam in the Infantry. Came back alive, so...
Maybe the laundry guys (92S) are learning a future tailor job? It looked like they may learn more than taking care of cleaning clothes.And setting up showers would be learning about plumbing. Just saying. Thanks for another great video
The rough part of 91E is that in shops I've worked in (91J), any of the more senior mechanics weld. We all work on wheeled vehicles too, but it's common enough to get pulled aside for a specialty, except welding. In a good shop, everyone is likely to work on everything though.
Great series Chris ! 🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Wow things have changed when I was with 2/87INF as an 11B we were always deployed, of course that’s back in 1989-1993.
I enjoyed being an 11B/M during the Cold War...but only one term. I was "fortunate" to get hurt and be allowed to reup for MOS 29V. What a great MOS that turned out to be. Had jobs from electronic maintenance at Division level to site chief of a strategic comms site to being a G6 and J6 SGM...even got to be a Joint Unit SEL before I retired. Any MOS can be pretty good if you take it as seriously as necessary, but not so seriously that it becomes what you are. I think all combat support MOS personnel should have to serve at least one hitch in combat arms first so that they know WHY their support jobs exist.
I was an 11b during Vietnam 1971. We spent 2 - 3 weeks in the field then 3 days at a fire base in the guard bunkers around the base. We moved every day rain or shine. During monsoon season we were always wet. We had a poncho and a liner as our bedding. When it rained the poncho was on top and the liner under that. There is a reason we were called grunts. If you can live thru fire fights land mines and weather you can live thru anything. To this day it was the most draining thing I’ve ever done. Nothing else comes close. The good thing is I can deal with most anything now because I know what it’s like to be a grunt.
1:36)Back in 1968 I enlisted. 11B2O. I also was a combat engineer, M113 operator, trucker, CBR NCO, SJA, and a dispatcher. I was trained on crew served weapons. 60mm & 81mm mortars, M2 HMG, 106mm ATG and the old bazooka.
If a "spoon" wanted a day off, he had to find someone willing to work a double shift. He would later work a double to let the other man have comp time.
9:54)The old Heckler and Koch 40mm grenade launcher. HK69A1. The HK69 was closer to a pistol and had a holster.
I’ve never seen a field shower let alone a 92S. First I’ve heard of it. Although a field shower would be clutch at times.
You were not in the field enough. They usually showed up after being in the field for a week and then only set up for a few days then leave.
@@42N8_1 I’ve been in the field for 26 days at some points. Still no shower homie. Just baby wipes. But that may be a BDE staff thing
I was Commo from 93-2000. Its a great M.O.S. 31U/25U.
The good thing about my mos was that I could go nearly anywhere.
The bad thing about my mos was that I could go nearly anywhere.
Meaning you could end up in any kind of unit.
Ive been in Logistics/Support, Airborne Infantry, and Aviation units.
Going from an Infantry Bn. to Aviation Bn. was culture shock.
I even did about 3 months in Armored Cavalry by mistake.
I was a navy trud chaser, aka shipfitter and a fresh air snipe. We burned a lot of welding rods. The auxiliary enginemen took care of ac relegation pumps etc. He is absolutely right about the stew burners, in addition the three meals, they had to serve midrats to crewman going on the midwatch. The rating that is at the bottomod the totem pole are the deck apes, ie boswain mates. They swab decks, chip paint and scrape rust, handle lines and stand look out watches in every kind of weather immigable.
In SoCal as a EW there were days when I volunteered to help the deck apes run the needle guns. Better outside than inside the compartment.
A little bit like being inside a metal drum while somebody is outside hammering on it. You can get away with that on a frigate or destroyer.
I also got to pull shore power and line handling. My mate for that was BM2 Hungry. Together we weighed around 525 lbs. All the meat needed for that.
Some of the hatches were a bit snug.
11 bravo, I’ve been out since 2010…. I’m 35 now about to go back in!
Damn I never thought of how crappy the hours were for 92Gs!!! 🤯 I feel bad for them, but I also really appreciate their hardwork!!! ❤
I was a 44B1P. Metal Worker/Paratrooper. I always had work to do, and when I did not have any work I was perfecting my welding techniques. We always had a mix of Combat training and MOS work. 👍
I held 44B and 44E as well as 95B
I had 92g in the national guard. Was supposed to be a company clerk but they wouldn't let me because of my eyesight. Weekend drill was easy. Yearly camps sucked because we were constantly short staff and you worked shifts that ran from noon to noon but had to help serve meals on your off shift. The good part was we never had to stand to for inspections.
We had 91E attached to us when I was on the recovery teams. They always were doing their jobs, but I’m sure recovery teams or S&R aren’t too common. They didn’t work as many hours as we recovery guys but they definitely busted their asses. It was good to have them with us.
Probably time to update this list. On the 11B MOS, I enlisted specifically for this, and then changed to a Signal MOS. Everybody should know how to fight and lead, so this was good initially on my first enlistment, but looking to the future, you're right, not too many job prospects leaving the Army. Also, I worked for a short time as a security guard to pay for some of my college fees, and Infantry training does not translate into a good fit for this civilian job, as shooting and killing someone is pretty much frowned on. Still, if you don't plan on making it a career, starting out 11B and then declassing to an MOS that has better civilian job prospects is always a good plan.
Should have joined the Marines, Infantry, Security, and good marksmanship are basic skills.
Yeah, get that E5 as an 11B and skip the lines for E5 in your new MOS. Even if you just get Corporal, you will outrank every Specialist you meet and always be a team leader.
I got blocked for E5 in the 90s because my MOS went overstrength due to new equipment.
I did the same thing. 11B and then switched to 31F Switch Operator. Great move.
Spent 8 years 11B,(4active, 4 guard) reclassed after ACL and meniscus got shredded.
I was a 11B10 who messed up an ankle and was reassigned to Ft Riley loved it I got re assigned to 11C and drove an APC I loved it.
Do a video on the weirdest MOSs in the US Army; job roles that you wouldn't expect to see in the army like 88K or 88T or oddly specific MOSs like 740A.... yes, I had to look those up....
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When I joined the army I would see these guys signed up for 74 series MOS’s: Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear (CBRN) and I thought why would anyone want that as an MOS?
A few decades later I see guys that had that MOS making over 120k/year doing stuff like HAZMAT removal.
Crazy money though probably pretty dangerous !
did the 92M version in the Air Force....as we say regardless of branch of service, "there is always room for one more at the bottom in our MOS".
I was a 91J Quartermaster Chemical Repairer and only time I got to work on the Water purification machine in Camp Dodge Iowa and that was twice the whole time I was in the National Guard
Come to think of it, 10 years in the Army as an 88M and I never seen anything get welded. Nor do I recall meeting an 91E.
I'm a 91E
How’d you like being an 88m?
Joining national guard and heavily considering this.
Don’t want to be indoors/office setting and it does transfer to civilian life if something else I do doesn’t work out.
@@anthonyfletcher8053 it was a great job if you can get in a foward support company. Yes you can get your CDL when you get out. Trust me it's not the same. Driving on post, training areas, or deployment is not like driving as a civilian.
@@420vet sweet! Thanks for your input. For a civilian career I’m looking at HVAC or plumbing and 88M as a “hobby”/life escape 😂
I had the mindset of being a 11b and get my hard years in and then reenlist into a less suck MOS
Dad was in WWII, did Graves detail when he got out his hands shook he was 21. A WWI vet told him take 6 months off and be a tourist. He did and never had PTSD he said that older guys advice saved him . Military wanted to give him 💯 percent disability.
The shaking came back in his 70s. Familial trimmers it was called.
I think the list is accurate, you could really make a top 10 list as there are a couple others that could be added.
As infantry we are just moving away from COIN, we aren’t always kicking in door we can adapt to any mission set given
Honestly anyone can be an infantryman but an infantryman can’t be an artillery man or engineer,etc
@@FancySeeingYouHere anyone can be an infantryman? Lmao show me how to manipulate all of our weapon systems or pass a pt test above standard 💀
@@kelleyboi4518 you can take a non infantry soldier put them in a infantry squad and turn them into a proficient infantryman in days. We’ve been doing this since at least WW2. However, it takes a lot more to turn a infantryman into a Forward Observer or Cannoneer. PT test mean absolutely nothing with the functionality of the jobs. A PT test doesn’t equate to combat. We rely on that test so heavily to validate our egos.
@@FancySeeingYouHere you can teach a job to anyone. I’ve deployed with FO that can give a call for fire class to a group of infantryman and practice it to know the ins and outs. I can have a line medic teach us everything we need to know above being CLS certified. All on top of not being a fat lazy pog like everyone else 🤷🏼♂️
@@kelleyboi4518I respect all 11Bs
Eventhough that was my dream, I chose MOS 92S because I didn't want to miss 2 semesters of college.
when i was a 94b 80's "spoon"! i had 11 bravos tell me they would never want my job!! we did our jobs the best as we could!!! the holidays were "all day every day"!! and the field in alaska was no joke!!!! and if u dont like the mess hall u can always go "downtown" for chow!!!!!!
From an 11C, AMEN! Respect, but you can have it, brother. Great chow 90% of the time. Even had 🦞 shoved out of a chopper in mermites...LOL. No holiday, just lobster from the Chow God.
I'm 17 and about to graduate high school and am EXCITED to enlist for MOS 12W, army!😁
As an early 2000s 11B this is absolutely accurate.
The only job for 11b that transitions well is contracting for a private military.
I don't think 92m should be on this list because the thing with 92m, it's not an MOS you can't just "go into" right off the bat or "accidently" find yourself in when you don't want to be there. There is A LOT of vetting involved in those wanting to be a 92M, so if you don't have the stomach for that kind of job, the vetting process will catch you long before you're able to become a fully trained and fully active 92m. Basically, the only way you can become a 92m is if you are very dedicated to becoming a 92m, the Army strait up doesn't want people that doesn't want to be there doing what is one of the most important jobs in the Army; they want 100% dedication to that job, because it's one of those jobs where there is zero room for mistakes. The one this should be replaced by is 13F (Fire Support Specialist), one of the least popular MOSs in the Army and one of the most common MOSs to get recycled into if you flunk out of AIT as well as the MOS that consistently has the lowest point requirements for promotion to Sergeant and Staff Sergeant which shows you just how unpopular this MOS is.
I'm ex Navy (Australian) but I will never forget the advice I read given by a WW2 veteran father to a son wanting to join the Army.. "Forget Infantry...get into the Artillery, the biggest guns possible...Railway guns if you can" LOL
Back in my day (Vietnam) I started out with the absolute worst MOS, 68E20. Aircraft propellor and rotor repairman. Sandpaper and files with ten thousand's tolerances. how long can you stand sanding and filing a propellor?
Interesting, you mentioned 11B but didn’t mention the ones who are interested in special forces. 🤔 btw, I’m an 89D. I did stick around to see if you would mention special forces, as someone may choose 11B for that reason.
Of course 92G is there. After all, what is a favorite/hated punishment in the army? KP
First. As an initial enlistment 11B, I ate it up with a spoon and asked for seconds. This was 1987-90. In that short amount of time 2-27 Inf. Wolfhounds, fought forest fires in Oregon, deployed to Honduras for Operation Golden Pheasant, JRTC rotation FT Chaffee, Arkansas, Team Spirit-S.Korea, and only missed out on Panama Canal security and subsequent invasion because I got pick for a green to gold scholarship. We treated our cooks like gold and one of the worst MOSs you missed was 92F fuel handler.
I definitely was waiting for the last part 😂
I was 11B for 8 yrs and yes I didn’t deploy, just NATO joint training. Still loved it.
Damn I just signed up for 92M. But I've wanted to be a Mortician for 6 years now so let's hope for the best.
How are you liking your M.O.S.?
I personally respect 92Ms (and all other quartermaster specialties).
Military Police should be on this list. Worse schedule than cooks, but you get some of that risk for combat support gigs as well when you aren't working 6 or 7 days straight with one or two off working the law enforcement work cycle at all hours of day and night. Civilian law enforcement is not the smartest job to take, but far better than the Army version, and you can always leave the worst department for a life quality and pay upgrade. No one should take this job now since it's easy to get a job in civilian law enforcement with zero experience so long as you are sober breathing non felon without a psychotic history.
I really could see the 11B coming lol. It's my dream MOS though
92Y (E-4) Let's gooooo!!! I loved supply!! My dad was a mechanic & built up gun trucks in Vietnam, then worked in the motor pool in the guard for 32 years before retiring in 2005.(E-7)My grampa (T-5) was in a general's band stationed in Hawaii post PH.
Okay I'm an old soldier so I only know the old MOS codes. A Laundry and Bath Specialist was a 57E and Fabric Repair a 43M. The Grave Registration Specialist a 57F. All received their AIT at Ft. Lee Va and they all worked together. I know this because they were in my company 26S&S Co 142Bn Pioneer Kaserne in Hanau Germany 1983-84. One occasion our company did a mass burial exercise and the local population found out then all hell broke loose. Just a small historical note these guys did mortuary affairs in Vietnam.
I was stationed in hanau. 93-96. Their was a 26th qms company in grossauheim. Maybe that was your old unit?
Yes, that's my old unit. We had sections on Fielgerhorst, Grossauheim, Francois and "Pioneer." @@standingonacomet2084
I was in twice, the first time was 54B (Now 74D NBC specialist) for 3 years then came back a year and a half later as an 11M. In both case, I went to a warzone for 6 months. Both turned out to be pretty useless professions in the civilian life. No one really wants to be an EPA specialist or a security guard.
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I was a 92G I liked it the hours were pretty rough around the winter season but I had a fun time with my friends and got to be a paratrooper still so I had some nights off more often after a unit jump day or Hollywood jump but I think I was lucky to be in the 82nd even got to go to ranger school (not ranger selection it’s a leadership course) I left with most of my knees intact and am now a sue chef in Chicago overall had a fun 4 years but covid really didn’t get me excited to reenlist so much bs around that time but I’m still serving the last 4 years in the IRR in the national guard just chilling and enjoying life