Dr. Tony Evans Steps Down Over Secret Sin | Ep 1017
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Today, we discuss some news in the Baptist church - Pastor Tony Evans has decided to step down due to a "secret" past sin. Is he obligated to confess his sin? In related news, the Southern Baptist Church is expected to outlaw female pastors and issue a resolution urging the government to limit IVF. We discuss what these votes mean for the future of the church. Plus, more of Cru's LGBTQ curriculum recently leaked, and we go through some concerns we have with it.
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00:00 Introduction
01:09 Tony Evans steps down
13:09 SBC to vote on female pastors & IVF
29:29 Cru LGBTQ Curriculum Update
57:31 Announcements
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As a pastor myself, I'll tell you that the devil constantly has a target on us. "Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter." Praying for Pastor Evans - no matter what the "secret sin" turns out to be!
The Devil is after all committed Christians, we laymen are tempted as like anyone else, if we give in to sin, we ourselves become disqualified, sounds like his sin found him out
@@dh1335 he repents he is not disqualified, he needs to continue his race to Christ
@@luzt182 Tony needs to come clean, he’s hiding his sin still , confession is good for the soul, very humbling experience
@@dh1335he needs to confess it to his congregation, not to every person with burning ears on the interwebz.
@@dh1335 well the traditional church people has to come there priest and confess, but we confess to the Lord. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
He behaved exactly as he should - late or early it's what was needed. May God bless him as he goes thru this.
The Bible says to restore your brother. What our brothers and sisters in Christ should be doing is praying for the continuation of the gospel since we are in evil times.
Have you behaved exactly as ‘should’ for your sin?
Evans can run but he cannot hide. He wants his comeuppance on his own terms but it seems like God has a different plan.
If everyone who has sinned stepped down, no one would be left standing.
AMEN AND AMEN....
💯 🙏people forget about how much God has forgiven all of us.
Exactly 💯❤ That part.
I haven't sinned yet. So there is that
@@abashedsanctimony154 Then according to God's word you're not a Christian 1 John 1:10 . Romans 6:23
We have to pray for him. Conviction has hit him and he is owning up to that. We have to give him grace and love on him as Jesus would. No one is perfect and he is acknowledging that. Continued prayer.
Conviction..or...blackmail? Can I say...blackmail??
@mikeconnor4736 either or...God is in this plan for repentance...sometimes if we can't lift ourselves out of it..He does🥰
He got caught. Wait. He should be forgiven but he should not be at the pulpit. While we’re at it, either should his daughter. For multiple reasons.
You preachers keep preaching,”No one’s perfect!” Maybe if you stop putting so much emphasis on such… Christians will take the way out…God has provided a way for His children to escape…Christ said, “Be ye perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect…” Preachers sound like the Devil when he said to Eve, “But God did say, `You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden…”
Genesis 3:4 (KJV) "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die." When I heard preachers saying this, “No one’s perfect,” it sounds like heresy. I pray for Pastor Evan, at least he isn’t like most of these messy fallen preachers, who refuse to sit down, repent, seek God’s face and spend some quality time with God.
Conviction or about to be exposed so he had to go ahead amd resign
My heart is grieving for Dr. Tony Evans and rejoicing as well as God loves him and we all fall short of the Glory of God. Praying for him.🙏
Thing is, we all sin daily and need the mercies of God. Praying for my brother and truly respect him more for being so transparent to the world. Be encouraged and restored Pas. Tony.
@apostlewilliam3012the average person has 70,000 thoughts a day. Even if just 1% of those thoughts were sinful in any way - pride, lust, hate, jealousy, envy, anger in traffic, or anything else…. that’s 700 sins a day. Are you gonna tell me you have days where you’re perfect from all that?
You don’t have any daily struggle against anything? Failing to trust in the grace of God minute by minute, maybe falling asleep while praying, getting annoyed when people interrupt, not reading your Bible or praying without ceasing… I could go on and on. You’re gonna stand here and say there’s a person who keeps all of that 100% perfectly, besides Christ?
@apostlewilliam3012 thanks for the irrelevant verse that doesn't address the question
@apostlewilliam3012 that verse you gave has nothing to do with he question I asked. Satan himself uses the word of God out of context too, so don't be playing dumb to get out of the question I asked.
No we don’t. You’re nuts
@DeborahSpeaksTruth the average person has 70,000 thoughts a day. Even if just 1% of those thoughts were sinful in any way - pride, lust, hate, jealousy, envy, anger in traffic, or anything else…. that’s 700 sins a day. Are you gonna tell me you have days where you’re perfect from all that?
You don’t have any daily struggle against anything? Failing to trust in the grace of God minute by minute, maybe falling asleep while praying, getting annoyed when people interrupt, not reading your Bible or praying without ceasing… I could go on and on. You’re gonna stand here and say there’s a person who keeps all of that 100% perfectly, besides Christ?
I don't need to know more. My God's grace surround him, family, church family.
@Tony-xg4uw NO. My business is enough to keep my attention. Those that he is accountable to are engaged.
We need to know who is blackmailing the man of GOD.
Says a lot that he confessed to those closest to him. God's mercy endures forever! ❤
He is a public figure and as of now he is still hiding his sin by saying it is secret.
Or maybe he was forced to confess?
Most likely he was caught and confronted. It would be refreshing if he repented and owned up to his sin on his own volition.
He did it because someone was probably going to expose him so he had to get ahead of it
Confess the sin publicly and move forward. Otherwise, he'll be trapped the rest of his life fearing that the person will expose him. Why give the devil that level of power over you?
I pray God blesses Dr. Tony with restoration that he needs. He has been very strong in his preaching. But like all of us, he is human. David was a man after God’s own heart but he made some terrible decisions. He also repented.
Me too...I feel he's really sad and I hope he can overcome whatever it is....
He can be restored if true repentance and discipleship takes place. However he can never be a pastor
@@mikeconnor4736 why?
For clarity on the topic of women pastors, everyone should listen to the Patriarchy series by Emma Stark. Her team clarifies those scriptures.
And so was Moses and the others.
❤It’s so incredibly important that we pray for our pastors and their family! The enemy is after all of us that are Christian’s followers but how much more a pastor and his family!❤🙏
I’m gonna miss him. He’s one of the best pastors ever.
If Pastor Evans is clean before God, he may not pastor, but who said he couldn't still teach?
I suspect he'll be back!
Men want grace and mercy but dont give it. Im not on it. I forgive as God does and instructs me to do. Dr. Evans be restored! Let him with no sin cast the first stone.
He already spoke to his family and step down, now the rest is between him and God. People just want to know the details to be able to gossip. And David said unto Gad, “I am in a great strait. Let us fall now into the hand of the Lord, for His mercies are great; and let me not fall into the hand of man.”
❤❤❤❤
Good word
David sinned and caused his nation to suffer and many died as a result. And yes that was after he repented and prayed the prayer you quoted. Sin has terrible consequences.
Maybe people are going to want their money back perhaps.
Want to know the details so they can gossip . Thanks to God for King David psalm . You are saying the same thing I am thinking 🧐 .
The Holy Spirit has used Tony Evans to teach me daily since 2020.
Tony Evans has my total and complete support and confidence that he continues to walk the right path and will find the restoration through whatever process he is going through.
Me to ❤ he speaks normal understanding language
I agree
@@georgenock5210she has no business getting on social media running her mouth about what he did or is doing as a female and woman. These women biblically are going to get it for doing this. Keep HER MOUTH CLOSED and mind her own business and household. Her husband need to tell her too!! Stop disgusting that man business. She is out of place to do so!!
Maybe now you can shower GOD Jehovah with the misplaced love for Dr. Evans.
If he tells his congregation he’s telling the world 🌎 especially with social media.
Exactly! I'm a current member and honestly I don't want to know.
He sinned against God not people. So, it's not people business
@@sophiawalker8116 Exactly!
Praying for Pastor Tony Evans, Family and Congregation! Unity in the Spirit and the bond of Peace! Reconciliation, forgiveness! I pray that whatever the enemy meant for evil that God will turn it around and use it for His glory!
This man is human.....and NO ONE IS EXEMPT FROM A MESS UP....WE ARE NOT PERFECT, STILL LOVE YOU TONY.
Many pastors are extremely hard on the congregation who commit sin.And when the Pastor drops the ball, they have excuses. I don't think Dr Evans will make any excuses. Dr Charles Stanley got caught up in a sin, and got himself together. But this is a new world, with the internet. I hope Dr Evans gets himself together. Still respect him.
I did not have sex with that woman. Lol
Praying for Pastor Evans and his family. We must do what 1Timothy2:1-4! Pray for all men!!! We all have feet of clay! Hope we all want to finish well!
Our "feet of clay" ain't standing at a pulpit raking in tithes with a tax exempt status.
Praying for Pastor Tony Evans 🙏
One of the best pastors I’ve ever had in my 50 years of living. Prayers Dr Evans
Don't agree with telling the congregation, confessing to the elders and family was the right thing to do.
I had a pastor in NY at Jews for Jesus’ church and he said private sins, privately confess public sins, publicly confess.
I disagree. The pastor is the head of the church, and the Bible says he is to lead by example and will be held to a greater level of accountability. The congregation has the right to know why their pastor is stepping down. They don't need all the details, but they should still be told the truth.
@@mercifulwarrior24 He confess to God not men. He sinned against God so it not men business. People want know to gossip.
I'm not sure what that means.
James 5:16 (NKJV) says "Confess your trespassers to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective fervent payer of a righteous man avails much." 💒
Allie, I really appreciate how you spoke about the sins of both of these pastors. You were very gracious concerning them. We must pray for them and those touched by their iniquity.
I agree Allie. He doesn’t owe the world an explanation but he does owe the congregation he leads an explanation. Wish him all the healing needed.
But the problem is in a mega church ot will eventually get to the world.
He's a public figure and has brought reproach upon the whole church so needs to publicly have told everyone. Plus, I pray he'll re-think some of the doctrine he preaches. Allie, look into it for yourself.
His congregation is the world
@@connihudson1578the public does not have a direct relationship with him, and he’s not their assigned pastor.
He doesn’t owe the public an explanation beyond what was given.
He DOES owe the world an explanation. When you become a public pastor, that's the downside of it. You do indeed owe the public some things you would only owe your own church otherwise.
Your compassion is like a cool breeze on a hot day. I like Tony Evans & in your voice was tenderness and an anticipation to welcome him back into the fold.
🙏
Ok
Thank you Lord Jesus for surrounding Pastor Evans in your loving arms. Healing those impacted, and turning this for your good.
Praying for you Tony!! You’ve done so much good work for God!!!😢
I will pray for Dr Tony Evans
If it was something that happened long ago somebody was threatening to blackmail him. We are all put in uncomfortable positions. The man is human and I’m sure he is not the same person now as then. God bless Dr. Evans and his family.
I BELEIVE SOMEONE WAS THREATENING TO BLACKMAIL HIM, IF HE DIDNT
STEP DOWN. PEOPLE ARE SO EVIL....
@@hestersue5563 Can't be blackmailed if you're not hiding anything
@@hestersue5563so exposing sin is now evil? What in the world is wrong with yall
@@Blankuser_threatening and exposing are two different stories.
Usually, there is a patter of sin and because the pastor refuses to repent, God exposed that sin to bring them to repentance.
Church leadership should decide. Giving "specificity" to a church that large is giving it to the whole world. the only way a sin is truly "Secret" is if it involves no one else. Guess what? pastors are tempted as we all are. Those in the church leadership and sphere or accountability of course need to know to provide restoration . However if this is a past sin and secret as just defined then we all don't need to know. Half the time we want to know is just so we can satisify our gossipy speculation and even some judgementalism.
Dr. Evans has been the leading Black voice in Christian media for decades, a powerful proclaimer of the Gospel to all. And now, not sure how much detail should be released, but 'secret sin' is really vague and secretive, sort of like saying it is what it is. And I'll be praying for him to be fully and appropriately restored. And thanks, Allie, for reporting on this with sensitivity and Scripture.
His skin colour should not even be mentioned, why do people constantly bring that into every conversation? Who cares how much melanin is in his skin????
@@PoirotFanGirlMost Black people aren't religious anymore
@@PoirotFanGirl Easy on me, please. I was in Christian radio for decades, I know and respect his role as one of the greats with his teaching and preaching program titled the Urban Alternative or Alternative. And yes, his was the pioneering voice on a national scale, right and respectful to acknowledge that. And in the '80s, I was the white guy on an otherwise all-Black air staff at a Gospel station in DC and I called myself Servant Robb and it was one of my career highlights.
Dr. Charles Stanley did the same thing and came back on fire for God!
I love Charles Stanley
What an Powerful man of God! His sermons has blessed Thousands! Let He who is without SIN Cast THE FIRST STONE!!
The apostle Paul was one of the greatest sinners mentioned in the Bible and God still used him to write more than half of the NT. Always pray for men and women of God!
Paul wasn’t a Christian when he was sinning…
David in Psalms was a believer. He messed up multiple times. And he got the title "a man after God's own heart". Because he repented.
@@matthewtfields8566Yes he was Read Romans 7 😂
@@boomerfxvideo I agree maybe not secret sin but Paul still sinned he was not perfect
@@bryonstevenson1084 😬 Romans 7 (commonly misinterpreted) is Paul talking about what life is like under the law or sin and death. Read Romans 8. “There is therefore NOW no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus…”
I always loved listening to Dr. Evan’s preaching… I hope he returns 😊
And you still can listen!
Amen! @@Asereht-tq2pn
May we all examine ourselves.
I commend Dr. Tony Evans for that acknowledgment and honesty, he doesn't owe anyone clarity right now in my opinion, because it's between him, his church, and God. Everyone falls short of the glory of God. _"Anyone who claims to be without sin is deceiving themselves and the truth is not in them."_ - *1 John 1:8 - 10* You know as well as I do that people are going to spread the word and their own personal judgments and opinions about it and that's not necessary right now, even the people within his church. Tony Evans did the right thing by addressing the issue publicly and telling them that he's going to step down, nobody in the public needs to know except him, his church, and God. It takes real ownership and earnestness to admit your faults and be responsible for them, that shows good character.
At least he admits that what he did was wrong. The Bible does make it clear that a pastor should step down if they were living in sin, but the Bible never says that the whole congregation needs to know exactly what the pastor did from what I understand. Tony Evans did the right thing by stepping down, and like you basically said, it’s not the world’s business to know.
Agree 💯%!
Enemies Within the Church is a solid organization.
I'm not sure why people would be distressed by this. This man is following the Bible better than most of the pastors we all know. I would think this would offer hope that we can all follow God so well. I agree with you that he owes his specific congregation more detail to his specific situations.
I live in an area that is hard to reach with the gospel. Things like this have been trending amongst well-known megachurch pastors. This makes it more difficult to reach the lost when pastors like this are the public figures of your faith. It is hard to tell someone Jesus can transform your life when our leaders aren't transformed (in the eyes of the lost).
That's the Holly Spirit work. You just preach don't underestimate the power of the gospel. Keep pressing and preaching.
He didn't sin against the church. He sinned against God. He owe Men nothing
@@sophiawalker8116 yes, you are correct. However, we are also advised to confess to one another and be healed. He doesn't owe it to his congregation. He must do it to regain his authority.
@nfcapps He confesses to God and to the elders. The Bible doesn't say to our sin to the congregations . God forgives for sins. He sinned against God, not his congregations. When the scripture speaks of confessing our sins to one another, that means . If you have an ought against someone, make it right.
People need to listen to Rosaria Butterfield and Christopher Yuan.
I do love them, but why specifically are you suggesting it?
You would like Mike Desario teaching videos on RUclips. A true Bible teacher!
Our prayers for Dr Tony Evans and his family ! The Grace of God is sufficient for each of us! Our prayers of spiritual healing and recovery for him! We pray that the Holy Spirit will help him, lead him , guide him during this season! Whatever the sin is that he is convicted of by the Holy Spirit is essential to do the right thing according to the Word of God, and the Spirit of God! Look like he has prayed about it, and talk to his family and the right people accordingly to covering and accountability accordingly to the Word of God and the OCBC bylaws! We are called as Christians to pray for each other! Avoid gossip, not to be judgmental but loving, being respectful, kind, loving, and forgiving! We don’t give place to devil! May God be glorified in this situation with Dr Tony Evan.
I really love and appreciate DR Tony every day I listen to his messages he has impacted my life positively and look forward to listening to him some more. we are all sinners and God will restore him fully No sin is so hard for God to wash or forgive.
Don’t all of us have er something we struggle with that we prefer not to to put on display?
Exactly 💯 What of God showed our sins to the world
YES
@Tony-xg4uw Your lying 🤥 Stop that it's not good for you
@Tony-xg4uw how about your pride?
I like Tony Evans.
Yep, he was so refreshing to listen to when I was in high school.
Praying for Tony. I think it’s good he is stepping down and I hope helps bring people to Christ. I love Tony.
Hi Allie! I love your channel! God bless you and your loved ones! 😊
Well said Allie!! My first time listening to you and you hit the nail on the head concerning the Tony Evans situation.
Thank you for being integral in the way you speak concerning issues that people question.
We all need to be careful that we have words in our mouth without sin.. and consider how we speak about controversial issues!
I recently came to know of you thru your Kat Von D interview.
I would just like to say thank you for what you said about Dr Tony Evans. You are correct. We all must pray for him.
There are other "leaders" ( I use that term loosely) reporting on this with a smile on their face, and I fail to understand how they do so??
For those who are interested in the complementarian/egalitarian debate/views, check out Mike Winger's women in ministry series. His video on the women not being in authority over a man is over 11 HOURS! He goes deep into detail, quoting books and articles on both sides. He is very open with his background, his desires at the outset and his conclusions.
Agreed!
I sooo appreciate the Spirit of God in Mike Winger's life and ministry.
God did not put men in authority over women. If you are a married woman you are to submit to your own husband but you are not under submission or authority to all men.
@pd87 Mike winger goes into the scriptures, hours worth, if you’re open to submitting to what scripture says
Gee, sounds fun.
lf my pastor steps down with a lack of transparency I need to know why. Imagine your kids teacher stepping away for a secret transgression to be restored by the school board. No one is going for that. People in leadership are responsible for others. To say it’s not my business is negligent. What if the pastor has a weakness for taking advantage of young people in the church? I can certainly pray for you while seeking God for guidance on whether or not I need a new spiritual leader.
He sinned against God not people. So, that is between him and God
@@sophiawalker8116 Hogwash. That’s like a cheating husband telling his wife the sin is between him and God. The pastor has a responsibility to his congregation acknowledging the wrongdoing, seeking forgiveness, and working towards reconciliation and healing within the congregation.
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I agree totally. Neither was guile found in his mouth I have nothing for or against Brother Evans. He has a soul pray he finds peace My hope is in Jesus
@melissac1716 Says, you not God. It's nobody business as long as he confess his sin to God. You or the congregations can put him in heaven or hell. People are just nosey and want to gossip that why you want to know.
Scripture is the measuring stick that must be followed. As the coming of Christ becomes closer, we see more and more people moving away from the Word of God. Allie, I praise God for your ministry on here.
Tony Evans is humble enough to step down for sinning. Many preachers are quick to criticize as though they’ve never sinned. May the Lord continue to be with him through these tough times
We definitely should be lifting Pastor Evans in prayer.🙏 I think his coming forward and confessing his faults/sin to the leadership at his church is entirely Biblical. Not certain it's necessary to provide specific details to the entire congregation. He's using wisdom.
Dr. Evans hasn’t stepped down; he’s stepped away…for a season. I praise God for his alignment with biblical accountability and pray for him and his ministry, which has been faithful and integral for decades; and will continue to be so. They will continue to grow and stand on the truth of God’s Word. The ministry's work will endure beyond quick, sensationalist headlines and talking points.
The spiritual and biblical response here is not to "weigh in" or give our opinions. It's to pray. But we are driven to microphones, ring lights, and video cameras today instead of prayer rooms.
Amen!
Allie, I appreciate your comments and discussion on IVF so very much!! I have always struggled with this topic and found your podcast so helpful to help me process through using a biblical lens. THANK YOU!!!!
An amazing teacher and I love his ministry. Will definitely be praying for Pastor Tony Evans.
Context is KEY...biblical, historical context...God help us!
I don’t think he owes an explanation to anyone outside of those he’s already confessed to. However, this is an opportunity to share a testimony that may help anyone struggling with the same temptations and sin. A warning to others if you will.
In the end, yes, we all sin and fall short and far be it from me to cast a stone at Tony. I will just say, as someone who has fallen short, my testimony has been a blessing to others and I learned so much humility through the situation that I don’t mind sharing it with those I think it will help.
The situation you spoke on about Tony Evans was so well said, I commend you for being bold in your faith but respectful towards the fact we all fail and come short and need Christ forgiveness and guidance daily.I love watching your show, it always helps me and I’m sure many others. Keep it up!
I thought immediately of the situation with Matt Chandler as well - I so appreciated that he and his church leadership just laid everything out in detail and took steps for healing and restoration. I think it was about 5 months he ended up going through some spiritual healing, counseling, and self evaluation until his elders felt he was ready to resume as pastor. It was a great example of how church leadership ought to function, and possibly saved Matt from a greater sin that could have had much worse consequences. I'm praying for a similar result in this situation!
I agree with a lot of what was said about Tony Evans. I do think that if the elders were made aware of this sin, that we should trust that they are using godly wisdom on the appropriate course to take.
Amen!
Amen!
Amen!
Im a sinner! Lord have mercy on me! No man alive is sinless. We all miss the mark but the grace of Jesus Christ sufficient enough to forgive us our sins. My man Apostle Paul of the bible R.I.P said it best!
I am praying for you Dr Evans! It is the LORD, He Himself who goes before YOU, HE will be with YOU, HE will NEVER leave YOU or forsake YOU. Do not be afraid and do not be discouraged.
Allie, thank you for talking about the things that need talked about. We need more Christians speaking out unabashedly.
This is the problem with man centered church... Rather Church should be of worship of God.
Thats the problem of humanity, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, thank God for his mercy and forgiveness .
God bless Dr. Evans as he goes through restoration.
@@luzt182 Acts 20:29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after THEM. Celebrity pastors bring glory to themselves The name of the Pastor should not be remembered.. Ppl walk away idolizing their teachings. He is just a man. Mega churches are not biblical
@@leaterry1504 This is our Prayer. Ppl were idolizing these pastors. God will share his glory with no other.
@@Golden_writes550I’ve said this for so long.
Everybody needs to know his secret sin, like David, we know all the sordid details, Tony needs to confess, holding back nothing, showing we the saints can forgive any kind of sin based on repentance of that sin. Confession is a very humbling experience, it’s the true path of redemption. Your sin will find you out.
What do you think it is?
@@mattw4496 Something very shameful,probably sexual in nature, he probably got caught in the act, also when you hide things , you have to lie as well. Tony needs to come clean.
Hypocrites let him that is without sin cast the first stone. I'm disappointed in y'all where's the mercy that God showed towards your brother if you are truly Born Again ❤
@@bryonstevenson1084 Sorry sir, Tony’s the hypocrite, he needs to come clean, you sound like a self righteous hypocrite yourself, judging others, there are saints in the Church living Holy Lives, beyond reproach, who know righteous judgement
Pray for Tony Evans, his family and the church he has been a pastor of for so many years. ❤
I have an even greater respect for Dr Tony Evans as he has not disclosed his sin and has stepped down from the pulpit. He has set a standard for all our pastors to follow- I pray that he finds the healing and help he needs and can return to the pulpit in time. He is a great example for us all!
Why should he tell
his congregation the details? He told his family, the elders and God. Everything else is just temptation for others in the form of gossip and judgement.
I completely agree!
The scripture does not say confess your sins to the entire church if you sin, it’s one to another. Also, keep in mind, this verse in context is regarding people’s physical bodies being sick and the reason was, there was unconfessed sin in their lives, so confession was the answer. Can you imagine if we held everyone to the standard of public confession every time someone sinned? Much less when the pastors sinned? The only time we are supposed to deal with things on this level according to Matthew 18 is when someone is non-repentant for their sin. For example, if Tony would have not confessed his sin in accordance with Matthew 18, and not listened to a person who first went to him, then a couple people who then came, dealing with it on a PUBLIC application WOULD be appropriate. Because he has confessed and is seeking healing, there is no need to share it with everyone. The real problem is that everyone feels entitled to know what exactly he did when it’s between him and the Lord ultimately. From a leadership perspective, the elders are now appropriately involved to help him move forward and be spiritually restored.
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I agree that they don't need all the details. However, the congregants should still be told the truth about why their pastor, who is the head of the church and is to lead by example, is stepping down.
@@mercifulwarrior24 That sounds good in theory and it may be your personal preference, completely understood, but there is no scripture that specifically says he must do that. It’s just that, your opinion. Think about if it was you. If you had confessed to your family and the elders and were getting help and restoration, is it really necessary to bring the congregation into your situation and tell them all of the details of your sin? Wisdom says no. Maybe a better question is, why do people feel the need to have to know something that is none of their business? Mature believers don’t need to know, they simply pray for their pastor and for his restoration. Mature believers don’t care to know the details of someone’s sin, they just care about the person and want to see them get healthy. Leave the details to The Lord, those whom he sinned against and the people helping him get restoration.
But...
If this is all voluntary and the sin was committed years ago, then why is he just now coming out and stepping down?
Love Pastor Tony Evans, and he with the hand of God is the reason for the growth of this ministry. The standards established for leaders are superheroish...and we give him grace as we want. He is still one of the most anointed teachers and leaders in our church community.
That’s a bold move! I appreciate you sharing light on this matter. May God restore him.
Tony Evans needs to stop with denying original sin, transdispensationalism, and partialism as well as supporting CRT and distance himself from His daughter.
Why now? If it was long ago he needed to repent to God and the ones he harmed… I don’t understand why all this time and now he steps away 🤔🤔
YES, WHY NOW.......
I wonder what we would see if God showed your sins to the world😢 let him that is without sin cast the first stone
@@bryonstevenson1084 not casting stones Dear One just the opposite if he repented years ago when this happened why is it a big deal it’s between him and God and the people or person that was wronged ……. Unless he’s being blackmailed I see no reason why it’s an issue not sin now and years ago makes no sense to me
Great program Allie! Thank you and God bless you your ministry and family in Jesus name❤
Confession is good for the soul.
Thank you for your wise way of handling this situation. Even with the unknown knowledge of his sin am glad God is not like man. He said He will in no wise cast us out.
He is now restoring his soul with God.. Praise God
Thanks!
I wonder if someone was ready to expose the secret and Evans stepped down to save face.
The messages I watched and viewed over the years have ALWAYS ministered to me, and therefore others throughout the world.
The messages he brought helped me immensely during a very troubling time in my life.
We all sin, let us not point fingers, but embrace Dr. Evans, pray for him and his family, and commend him that he followed the Biblical principles he has intentionally spoken over the years regarding, sin, repentence, and restoration!
Wow- Allie, I have never had more respect for you. The first 12 minutes were full of so much focus on the perfection of Christ alone. ❤
This completely breaks my heart I’ve listen to Tony Evans for years and still do everyday when I go for my walks I listen to his podcast I learn so much from his teachings, I will prayed for him and his family God is in the business of repairing lives ❤
Some of these comments make him sound like a hero. If he was supposed to step down for his secret sin, why not do it years ago instead of waiting so long🤔 Meanwhile he was still speaking publicly, selling books, etc😢
God bless U sister U handled this by the power of the Holy Spirit! All have sinned and fall short . Those of us who have been called cant simple repent but have to step down and be restored. Evans is one of the only public Pastors who has done this the right way.
I never stood still on the IVF! Thank you for sharing, Allie. Never had an idea what it entails.
Why are we perplexed??? The Bible tells us to trust in no man
He had a super public ministry, he wasnt just some neighborhood pastor. He made lots of money off all his many many books and conferences. Therefore since he had such a public ministry he ought to come totally clean. PUBLICALLY.
The church should have a percentage of each one of those books that's how you made his money off the people
I agree with you. People were trusting him when he spoke or when they bought his books. He abused their trust.
Thanks so much for discussing the SBC ruling. I had not heard about it until you mentioned it.
He owes not just his congregation, but all who looked towards him for spiritual shepherding, a clear explanation. The fact that the incident happened years ago makes it seem suspect that something unfavorable was about to be revealed. It’s true that our leaders are not perfect, but it is also true that God himself holds his shepherds to a higher standard. James 3:1. Yes pray for him, but that can not be an excuse to let him off the hook and not hold him accountable. What sort of message would that send to those who might have been sinned against by his actions? Instead of just praying for him - pray for whoever was hurt by his sin as well. How quick we are to defend the perpetrator and dismiss the victim
Regarding Dr Evans and the specific sin, I don't believe it is possible to share his sin with the congregation while not sharing it with the public. What he shared with the congregation would soon be known by everyone. His only options are exactly what he has done or go completely public. No halfway measures.
Lifting Dr. Evans up as well as his family. He is a man that loves Jesus and he falls short of the glory of God, just like we all do. Thank you Jesus for your sacrifice that we may all be forgiven...including brother Evans! He is a good man and a great pastor.
Thank you for your witness Allie. Love your podcast and appreciate all that you do and who you are!!! Unapologetic Roman Catholic married mother of two. :) Keep on keepin’ on!!!🩷
Hello Allie
Not only are you beautiful, but you’re very intelligent in this is the first time that I’ve been able to even find you on the podcast but I appreciate the work you were doing extremely informative. Thank you so much for your hard work and insight. God bless Pastor Billy.
I would never go with CRU as a missionary. They are weak on the gospel, weak on the importance of the local church, as well as the problems Allie spoke about. It’s sad but it’s also been this way for decades.
I commend you man of God to be bold and courageous in stepping down and allow God's process of renewal and restoration
I love your commentary and wholeheartedly agree with you. God bless!
I believe more pastors will follow Pastor Evans. You are not alone, Pastor. God will continue to use you to lead us to him. Take your time to heal..Amen😊
He leaves everything to the imagination. Why now? Why not then?
I agree that more clarity would be good, but how would he share that with just his church and it not be shared outside the church?
Exactly!
One of the great thing about all of these videos on what happened, is that the majority of us agree that we just need to pray for him and we see his leadership and how he came forward and the church is doing exactly what they need to be doing. He is not hiding and he's actually still going to church and the church is welcoming him into the congregation. Just not at the pulpit right now. So it also says something about his character and probably what the sin is and how he's valued there
I admire him, and he has touched many lives.
He didn't committed a crime. His sin is between him and God.