Jinger talks normally now. The rest of her family have a formula for speaking. The words they say, the cadence of their sentences, where they take a breath, and the way the women pause for the man and just smile and shake their head and agree with what they say. She has her own brain now and her husband respects her ideas. I love it!
Jinger said something along the lines of "Honouring my parents is about respecting them but not obeying everything they say " and I think that is so powerful. I really struggle with boundaries and I think reminding myself of this is going to massively help!
Also, are parents are told in the Bible to love their children. Love requires honor and respect. The Bible also plainly says, Parents, do not provoke your children.
Yes 🤚🏻💯 Agree, That's The Perfect Way to Say it that We ALL Can learn from as a Person in life Period 😉💭❣️I ❤ That interpretation for Us All as a Child of God ✨😇✨, Being a Good Human 🤗 in anything we go through or life Circumstances ❤️🙏🏻❤️❣️
@@drust488 there's nothing wrong with rules but the way they were with their kids was very controlling and there are other ways to protect your kids without being overbearing.
And then you see what happened with Josh …. and you quickly see these ‘eyes always watching’ rules do nothing to prevent horrific behavior& actions …. If anything, cult mentality and ruling by terror/control always backfired and causes the very problems that are supposedly being avoided.
I feel like I could listen to Jeremy speak all day. Not in a weird way, but in a way that he does an amazing job breaking down the books and verses in the Bible. It’s beautiful to see that Jeremy and Jinger’s relationship was for sure divine intervention! God is so good!!
The way Jeremy says “I knew who this woman was at her core” that was so sweet. I love how he didn’t force her to change, but showed her so much love and just wanted her to see who God really is, that He isn’t a God of fear but of love and peace!
What I’ve been taught is that God is supposed to be feared makes total sense like there’s BILLIONS of us and only one God all mighty all powerful all knowing creator of everything the whole “love peace” stuff is often just hypocrisy claiming blah blah blah “love peace forgive/ness” blah blah blah then turning around bullying harassing attacking whoever’s seen as different
IBLP survivor here. Thank you for this interview. Puzzle pieces are coming together of “Where did I get this from?” This is so healing for me. Thank you for this interview, to all of you.
My family attended seminars and purchased material but were never true IBLP converts. Reading and listening to this type of podcast has helped me to understand so much about myself. It’s been such a blessing to bring clarity to confusion.
Jeremy said something along the lines of “when God the Father looks at you, he sees his Son, he sees Jesus. Regardless if you did well this week or didn’t keep it cookie cutter, he sees THE SON” thats the GOSPEL and I needed to hear this so BADLY!!! So refreshing to finally see an interview of Cult survivors that didn’t throw out the baby 👶🏻 with the Bath Water 🛁 They just got better at discernment. I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF THIS INTERVIEW!!! They need their own podcast lol ❤🎉
I love how Ginger's faith and relationship with God has actually grown stronger and that Jeremy took the time to bible study with her and help her out of the "fog" of Bill Gothard's teachings. I love that they are still following Jesus together and that it didn't turn her away from following Him. God bless them. Lots of love ❤
I’m not religious at all but I respect the HELL out of him for helping ginger find her way to where she is now with love and education and grace and not by force.
I think the only thing he could claim is helped give her the confidence to be her own woman. To have her own thoughts and feelings about things. He did what a husband should be first he became her protector and in that protective space it allowed her time to become her real self.
@@graceannapatel7578 it’s a book with no proven base and no proven origin. It’s blindly followed as the word of some higher authority with many variations around the world. People fear a mystical place called hell and that shapes what the say and do. That’s a cult. It controls every essence of their lives.
@@kadamowicz68 I’m backing this comment. I’m 62…spent my life praying in faith to God. My last prayer was six yrs ago. Why? Not any people. History and science! How is it scary? Jesus is described lovingly…God? He will cast you into a lake of fire!! 😡 How humble, how loving 🥰 and I am suppose to mirror His behavior.
Jeremy and Jinger exude so much wisdom. I’ve never seen someone maintain respect for her parents like this while also publicly decrying the false teaching they raised her in. Such a great episode!
I was raised up in a church where there were so many restrictions & I missed out on so much of my childhood. When I got older & had a child I refused to raise them up in a certain denomination. I wanted my child to enjoy her childhood with NO regrets. It wasn’t until I was older & went to Bible school & in study the word I realized that was man made rules and not Biblical @ all ! It was so freeing and free from the condemnation as well ! Jeremy, has helped Jinger to see it was man made laws. I love 💕 that he was grounded enough in the word to say No! No ! That’s a faults teaching. You Go Jeremy!
@trishabaran1521 yes, you are so right, all religions are "man made" your daughter will be happier and healthier mentally not to have been brought up with religion 😊
24:38 this part of him explaining how God actually views us who have accepted Jesus made me cry! What a simple and beautiful way to put it. That’s grace!
I'm not Christian but that was the best breakdown of what Christianity should be I've heard in a very long time. He has an incredible way and I can see that he's probably a very loved pastor
I grew up in a church that believed closely to what Jinger believed but it wasn’t under IBLP. I feel like for so long I just followed rules out of fear and not because I loved God. That’s changed. I follow Him because I love Him, and nothing I do or don’t do will change that He loves me. When I realized how God viewed me, it changed my life!
Jinger is the most healthy and mature of the siblings I have seen. She and Jeremy have their hearts and heads in the right place, motivated by love for God and others, not spite, not wealth, just love.
JILL & JINGER ARE Equally Healthy & Mature and thank whomever, God, Stars or the Universe, they definitely *raised themselves with 2 Wonderful Husband's and their children!! Live your Life with kindness......❤❤😊
Jinger is the embodiment of “Honor thy father and thy mother”. The respect she shows her parents while staying true to her experience is unreal. My jaw dropped when she said, “Well I can’t speak for my parents” and continued to drop as she kept pulling away from them talking about their parents and instead referring to “the system”.
I agree with you! Very diplomatic and respectful. I’m sure her parent’s did lots of things right and she still loves and respects them enough not to speak badly of them. Maybe she has forgiven them.
I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but Jinger and Jeremy are just so intelligent and thoughtful it is so refreshing to hear them reflect with candor and care. What a reflection of the genuine love of God.
I agree although sadly he and jinger are part of Macarthur church who has also used his theology to hurt so many including encouraging a woman to stay with a husband who was SA his own daughter. I hope they leave that church soon too and find one sound in practice and doctrine
Praise God 🙌🏻 ✨🙌🏻 , he knew What Jinger needed in her Life all along ✨😇✨❣️... They are a Powerful Couple for the younger generation to learn from 😉💭❣️... It 💔 when she cries 😢, that's so Sad n I 🚫 wait to read her book 📚 along with the others Who have been led to write ✍🏻 About their upbringing, I 🚫 say Childhood 🧐 tho Since they really weren't Children 😞❣️... They were in a fishbowl on cameras n raising their siblings n that's Alot 😢❣️... So Sad 😭..
This is THE BEST interview that i have heard to date with Jinger and Jeremy!! All of the others seem so guarded and scripted. I feel like Jeremy spoke like a normal person and not professional preacher talk. Jinger seemed so much more relaxed and free to speak her mind as well. But everything was done so respectfully as well! Loved it!!
This is the only interview I’ve watched start to finish. I love hearing from genuine individuals who are not out to gain recognition or attention like many (not all) of the mainstream tic tockers. Jinger and Jeremy have pure intentions and have really wise insight they are able to convey to this generation. Thanks for having these guests on your platform Matt & Abby.
I attended a "Basic Life Principals" seminar in 1972, my senior year in high school. It was held in a packed coliseum. I actually found the notebook in my hope chest a few years ago. I was shocked to find out that was the religious sect the Duggar family is in. Everybody went, it was pushed in all the Seattle high schools and "Young Life". I keep it, planning to read through it someday. No thank you, however, I do love the Duggar children. I've enjoyed seeing Jinger blossom into the beautiful woman God wants her to be through Jesus our Lord and Savior. The Lord blessed her with a wonderful husband.🙏🏻✝
So great to see her taking her space. She doesn't let him talk over her, she doesn't look at him the whole time he speaks like her sick parents do. She has found a way to grow and be better for it.
Isn't it strange, her parents were so fearful of outside influences to the extent that there was no worldly music, no team sports, no school, but they invited total strangers into their home and gave them access to their children's rooms?
I just have to stop in the middle of this video to say AMEN!!!! I love that you are preaching about the freedom that we have in Christ and how God sees us the way He sees His son as blameless, righteous, and pure. Not because of anything that we've done but because of what Christ has done. What a witness and so thankful that this platform is being used to bring God glory!!! My favorite episode thus far.
Jeremy’s conversations including how Jesus loves us, the truth, and explaining Bible verses is wonderful to listen to. And he’s so loving the way he showed Jinger the Biblical truths. They’re so patient with each other. What a truly Christian marriage.
Jinger and Jill are my two favorites!!! To see how they both escaped from this “cult” of a nightmare if beyond amazing and wish nothing but luck, love, and support as they both continue to unlearn habits.
Mine too. Also really liked Jessa. I’m so happy for Jill and Jinger that they were about to get real clarity on everything after getting married. They both married amazing men that seem absolutely perfect for them!
Jeremy, you did such a good job presenting the Gospel in this show. Jinger, thank you for speaking so graciously about your family and for continually pointing back to the truth of Christ and how He has shown you the truth of his character. ❤
Honestly the Derick and Jill Dillard and Jinger and Jeremy have been my favorite guests so far! They are so wise and both speak in a way that is honoring but truth. Now I gotta read her book lol
I think it was nice that jinger didn't say anything against Jill even though they went about things differently. Like with the money stuff. Although now that I'm thinking about it, jinger probably saw the consequences of Jill fighting the money and realized she didn't want to be shunned the way Jill had been.
@lzkt, That's because Jinger may still get some money from her dad when in need. She also didn't want to stand up to her Parents like Jill did! Jill stood up for herself !
It's so great that Jeremy HAD TO go through those teachings because it was so helpful with him understanding his wife's belief's better and helping her be pulled out from the things that are not based on the Bible.
I remember watching the show and thinking "Jinger is going to break free from this someday!" What a blessing it is to see her love for Jesus, her respect for her parents and her complete freedom from legalism. Great interview!❤
It does make me think about how her life was like the movie , " The Truman show" as Truman starts to figure out things for himself and realises he is on a set, and we walks out the door to Free himself. ❤
Jeremy you're spitting straight Gospel truths, man! Keep sharing the real and true Gospel unapologetically and bravely! May God keep you and sustain you and your family!
Amazing couple all around, grew up watching the show. The amount of respect he still has for her family and her, and is letting her grow… The way he talks about her 🥹
I was raised with fear based, Bill Gothard teachings, southern Baptist.. and its taken me literally years to even feel like i can have my own relationship with God. I dont believe in the culty fear based watered down Christianity. Jeremy is definitely closer to God than me but i love how he talks about Christianity because its so close to what i believe
I really respect and admire how Jinger doesn’t ever dishonor or put down her parents or family even after reviewing how she grew up in the IBLP system. I see her heart and appreciate her level of understanding for her parents mindset and intentions. It’s also so admirable that she didn’t throw the baby out with the bath water and dismiss her relationship with Jesus. I’m amazed at her resolve and dedication in this journey away from the IBLP system and the grace she has exhibited along every step of the way.
Her dad chose her pedo brother over his daughters multiple times. I'm not saying they can't love their parents. But they are clearly conflict avoidance that's ok if what they want but it's not superior to speaking the truth to someone who is practising evil. Jim Bob covered up Josh's crimes and tried to lie about them. The Bible says everything done in the dark will be brought to light. Some conflict is also Biblical.
I wholeheartedly agree, this has been one of the best episodes you have done. Kudos to you both for having this lovely couple and other members of the Duggar family on your podcast. Continue to stay true to yourselves. I have really enjoyed watching you evolve in your journey.
It seems as if Jinger and Jeremy have not been openly discussing their situation with their friends and family since I heard about Jill Duggar's situation through Jill Duggar's blog
What an excellent interview! I felt like the questions were asked kindly and respectfully. I am impressed with the gentle and kind approach to the answers as well. I really respect Jinger and Jeremy and their approach to all of the things they have been through and how they are moving forward.
Love them, she is SO brave & he just seems like the most genuine, respectful guy. They both seemed to help each other grow in different ways. I hope to meet someone that brings that level of calm to my life & helps me to grow in my faith. I am SO happy to see where her journey took her after being put through so much, all while in front of a camera growing up.
They are in SUCH a good, healthy place & relationship with God now. I am so, so in awe listening to them speaking about their life and relationship with the Bible and their faith. I am so glad they have found their place.
i love how jeremy lets her talk and tell her story. always watched the duggars growing up and i really admire jinger for her testimony & keeping her children off social media
Both Jeremy and Jinger have a very mature and healthy attitude about their past and present life. They have done a lot of soul searching and talking through so many issues and have come out with the best answers.
I have been a Christian for a long time. Yet. I still struggle with how God sees me because I know I am so imperfect. I so needed to hear this. Thank you, Jinger and Jeremy, for being so transparent and willing to share. Thank you, Matt and Abby, for having them on.
I grew up around Jinger’s family and she truly is such a genuine and sweet human! I loved this episode and hearing more about her life and testimony, great interview Matt and Abby! 🤍
@@SweetPea6348 I’m actually quite a bit younger than Jinger. I’ve never had a bad experience with any of the Duggars, they’ve always been so genuine and kind to me and my family! They’re honestly such a sweet family.
@@claytonandkatherine I do think there’s something to be said having so many children that as far as I know only one walked away from God. That’s all I know though from the years I watched them. Michele even though she’s a little younger than I am taught me to be more soft spoken to others in my life. I still fail at times but she was a huge example to me as the kind of godly woman I wanted to be. 🥹
What I loved the most about this was Jinger and Jeremy taking over each other and catching themselves and taking turns to talk. Jinger, who was taught that her husband's voice would be more important than her own and to make herself small and quiet has found her voice and these 2 have a beautiful balance in listening and speaking. ❤❤❤ @jingervuolo
What a beautiful testimony!!! I love this story. I've followed the Duggars since they first aired and watched these kids grow up. I prayed for them to see the truth in the scriptures. God is so good. God bless them. Please have them back sometime soon
I grew up homeschooled with the IBLP background and going to what I called “homeschool camp” which was the Big Sandy conference. In 2018 we started going to the Duggars house every Friday, such a sweet family and I made great friends, we had to wear skirts at Big Sandy and their house which we didn’t have to do in our day to day lives (which was so lukewarm and confusing) my parents say “chew the meet, spit out the bones” (I do not agree with) but long story short. I saw an interview about Jinger releasing her book and she and Jeremy speaking on it, and I completely had a melt down because everything I had known felt like a lie. So my husband surprised me with her book and it completely changed my life. I’m beyond thankful Jinger decided to do what she did. And now have an even closer relationship with God than ever because I’m not scared anymore. The teachings were absolutely confusing and my family/parents still are teaching it. So still have to navigate through that. And still disentangling some things step by step. But I have faith that God has a plan. Thank you Matt and Abby for having them on! I couldn’t wait to watch!
So glad you found your way out of that! The "chew the meat, spit out the bones" CAN be a good way to see life but then again, I can't imagine making my family attend IBLP, wear skirts and "act the part" and pretend .... that would be SO confusing to children! 😥 My dad went to a few IBLP conferences in the 70's but ultimately saw it for what it was. We had a beautifully illustrated book with short stories in it that was a Gothard book and my dad would read to us here and there but would come to a part that was "off" and would say, "okay that's weird.." and skip it. LOL The key is to know scripture and only use that as a measuring stick to all other teachings and ideas!
From what I hear from Jill and Jinger, I find it admirable how much they respect their parents and realize that they just wanted the best for them. They give them a lot of grace, and I feel like we should all learn from that.
I loved this episode. I just found out YESTERDAY that a friend I've known for years grew up with the Duggars, went to Bible studies at their house, and played broomball with them as kids. I knew she grew up in a conservative Christian community in Arkansas but I had no idea that she knew them personally. The stories she has are incredible. She said she wants to read Jinger's and Jill's books but hasn't quite gotten to a place in healing from religious trauma that she feels ready without being triggered
Jeremy speaks so eloquently about his faith and I believe he is filled with the Holy Spirit speaking truth. Perhaps him becoming part of the Duggar family will bring healing to the entire family someday.
Jinger and Jeremy seem like such a wonderful, loving and level-headed couple!! I give Jinger so much credit for leaving the IBLP - which must have been incredibly hard but only proves how strong she really is. Jeremy seems like a very supportive husband!!
Just bought the book after listening to this episode! The wisdom and humility Jinger has is so different and unique. And Jeremy's leadership and understanding and probably patience with the whole process is so incredible.
I found so much strength and encouragement through your story Ginger. I grew up in a strict Christian home and was afraid of everything. Since getting married (2016), my husband has helped me work through my fears. There is so much freedom in God's truth!
I'm glad they touched on the fact that reading the Bible requires learning and diving into context, historical and author/audience. The Bible was written at a different time, in a different culture, and those influences are present as the Bible was written by men. I also learned what unconditional love was when I had my daughter. The way I saw and felt about her, I was able to connect to how God sees and feels about me. I have so much more peace and joy in my relationship with God now, with that understanding.
I respect Jeremy & Jinger so much…she’s really been through a lot and I cried hearing all of the things she grew up with, so sad! Thankfully Jeremy helped her to see the truth and she’s evolved so much. I look forward to buying her book! Excellent show!!
Loved their perspective so much. I was raised in Christianity and had a lot of fear even around those teachings and Jeremy's breakdown of the word is truly eye opening! Love it.
Raised with healthy Christianity. -Knowing the Lord Jesus was my savior. But none of this weird stuff where it controlled your life completely. You’ve got to use a lot of common sense when learning about the Bible and a relationship with the Lord.
I was such a fan of your family that i refused to hear negativity about your family through your interview, but I’m so glad i did listen. I respect the fact that you’re still honoring your parents throughout this process even though you disagree with some of the teachings, and have found your way in Christ.
I understand Jinger's parents have their issues, but man did they raise a lovely woman. Jinger is beautiful, well spoken, seems to have a heart of gold and is just an all around lovely human being. Among a lot of wrongs, they certainly did something right.
Childre in the IBLP also largely raise themselves. I know this because I was raised with a lot of those teachings. Raising children is rules and fear by and large not actually lovingly shaping the person. I'm not saying her parents did everything wrong but not everything about who Jinger is today is due to her parents. She herself said she was very fearful and a different persons years ago.
You can tell the guy is more cocky and confident, he seems like a know it all. and she’s more weak. She’s pretty uneducated, which isn’t all her fault since her parents never sent her to school, ever, but she seems the type to be a follower
The most delicious irony of the Duggar family is that, so far, every single daughter who has married has ended up defecting from the family ideology. Jim Bob chose his daughter's husbands, and their husbands lovingly and compassionately led them away from a cult of control, isolation, repression, and deception. Every single one. These girls were never treated like whole people by their own parents. They were treated like commodities, and their religion taught them to believe in their own depravity and lack of self-identity. They weren't people; they were vessels. Then they met young men who treated them with dignity and respect, who treated them like whole people. There's no going back to dehumanization once someone you love has affirmed you are, in fact, a whole person deserving of dignity and respect.
I have a lot of respect for Jinger and Jeremy. They are both very wise beyond their years. So glad that Jeremy encouraged her to dig deeper into the bible to see the truth for herself. I'm sure it made her relationship with Jesus much stronger as well.
The fact that Jeremy words it so well with the “strategy of keeping people entrapped through fear”.. such healing affirming words. Thank god he loves books his wisdom has helped I’m sure
The fact she came from Michele and Jim bob blows my mind 😮 she turned out to be such a lovely, smart woman.. I hope she continues to find success and continues to speak out
There was a reason that God brought Jeremy into Jinger's life. Major respect for her and Jeremy respecting her parents but still having and making their own thoughts and decisions. This was a very well done interview kudos to you all
Clearly she’s a gem who was raised amazingly well, but holy cow this guy is such a lottery win. What a an amazing couple, fully in sync with each other with great morals and I love that despite a few disagreements she’s speaking respectfully of her family.
Thank you so much, Matt & Abby for having Jinger and Jeremy on! It’s amazing that even after all the IBLP trauma, they still have relationships with Jesus! It was sooo good when Jeremy talked about Jesus’s blood covering everything. No matter where you are in life, no one is too far gone for the love of Jesus. Thanks :) I loved hearing people not afraid to open up about their faith!
@@joyjohnson8645Josh was abusive to many of the girls in the family. And is currently in prison for child porn. The others are more siblings. They all have J names
1:22:09 love how she didn’t even say her “oldest brothers” name 😮💨 she was so smooth with that, good work Jinger… he’s not even worth naming 👏 Happy to see her and Jeremy doing well and not sharing their kids online… they are FREE indeed ❤
Jeremy is 100% right. Marriage is a commitment. I choose to love you. And I love you inspite of your flaws. Flaws are not foundations to leave a marriage or even serious relationship.
Jeremy and Jinger you were very well spoken, mature, and gave your message in such an honoring way! Thank you for speaking truth and saying the hard things to help others. Well done faithful servants!
Of all the couples, Jeremy and Jinger are the easiest to listen to. Very intelligent, eloquent and down to earth.
I think Jeremy has really brought out the best in Jinger and helped her outgrow unhealthy beliefs.
100%
Jinger talks normally now. The rest of her family have a formula for speaking. The words they say, the cadence of their sentences, where they take a breath, and the way the women pause for the man and just smile and shake their head and agree with what they say. She has her own brain now and her husband respects her ideas. I love it!
I’d say Jill & Derrek are a close second! ❤
haha i just commented that. and jeremy is a lot less…i don’t know. he doesn’t talk over jinger as much as some of the other husbands do.
Jinger said something along the lines of "Honouring my parents is about respecting them but not obeying everything they say " and I think that is so powerful. I really struggle with boundaries and I think reminding myself of this is going to massively help!
Yes that part was incredible!!
Nobody seems to ever really say respect your daughters yet daughters must respect everybody UNFAIR
@@noorbohamad5796it’s despicable but that’s the cult life
Yes I once was told this exact thing in therapy and has helped my perspective and honestly guilt I would have after every decision I made as an adult!
Also, are parents are told in the Bible to love their children. Love requires honor and respect. The Bible also plainly says, Parents, do not provoke your children.
“If the only thing that makes me a good person is rules and a chaperone then I am not a good dude” finally!!! That is the best way to put it
Yes!
Yes 🤚🏻💯 Agree, That's The Perfect Way to Say it that We ALL Can learn from as a Person in life Period 😉💭❣️I ❤ That interpretation for Us All as a Child of God ✨😇✨, Being a Good Human 🤗 in anything we go through or life Circumstances ❤️🙏🏻❤️❣️
Yes this is what I agree with Jeremy too. I mean this makes so much sense. I loved how he explained it. ❤
@@drust488 there's nothing wrong with rules but the way they were with their kids was very controlling and there are other ways to protect your kids without being overbearing.
And then you see what happened with Josh …. and you quickly see these ‘eyes always watching’ rules do nothing to prevent horrific behavior& actions …. If anything, cult mentality and ruling by terror/control always backfired and causes the very problems that are supposedly being avoided.
I know Jinger and Jeremy personally and they’re this genuine and kind hearted in real life.
They were always my absolute favorite couple on the kids' show. I'm glad to know they are exactly who I thought they were despite a large following. 🥰
They are precious, but could you please ask her to not cut him off? He would repeatedly start talking and she would start talking over him.
@melstone8296
I thought that it was just the opposite.
After all, it is her story to tell and her husband plays a supporting role.
@@melstone8296 I’ve been married 32 years and we still do that! They are fine.
I completely believe it. So thankful they found each other.
Jinger is so beautiful… and you can see that beauty is inside and out. They seem like such a great couple.
I feel like I could listen to Jeremy speak all day. Not in a weird way, but in a way that he does an amazing job breaking down the books and verses in the Bible. It’s beautiful to see that Jeremy and Jinger’s relationship was for sure divine intervention! God is so good!!
Yes, i totally agree with that ❤
agreed!!!
Totally. He is a really good teacher. He is a pastor in CA. I need to find some of his messages and listen to it.
Agree! I was thinking he makes so much sense in a very chill way lol
Same!!
The way Jeremy says “I knew who this woman was at her core” that was so sweet. I love how he didn’t force her to change, but showed her so much love and just wanted her to see who God really is, that He isn’t a God of fear but of love and peace!
The epitome of a godly man! Thank you, Jeremy for loving our girl to life!
What I’ve been taught is that God is supposed to be feared makes total sense like there’s BILLIONS of us and only one God all mighty all powerful all knowing creator of everything
the whole “love peace” stuff is often just hypocrisy claiming blah blah blah “love peace forgive/ness” blah blah blah then turning around bullying harassing attacking whoever’s seen as different
Billions of us?@@noorbohamad5796
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Now I just hope the rest of her siblings can be free from such false teachings!
IBLP survivor here. Thank you for this interview. Puzzle pieces are coming together of “Where did I get this from?”
This is so healing for me.
Thank you for this interview, to all of you.
My family attended seminars and purchased material but were never true IBLP converts. Reading and listening to this type of podcast has helped me to understand so much about myself. It’s been such a blessing to bring clarity to confusion.
This is so interesting.
These daughters need to go through religious deconstruction.
I'm so.sorry. That's not Jesus teachings completely a man's twist. 😢
The fear tactics are not only use in the n,as of religion, it’s also used at work, politics, universities, etc.
Jeremy said something along the lines of “when God the Father looks at you, he sees his Son, he sees Jesus. Regardless if you did well this week or didn’t keep it cookie cutter, he sees THE SON” thats the GOSPEL and I needed to hear this so BADLY!!! So refreshing to finally see an interview of Cult survivors that didn’t throw out the baby 👶🏻 with the Bath Water 🛁
They just got better at discernment. I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF THIS INTERVIEW!!! They need their own podcast lol ❤🎉
I totally agree love it all and yes, they need their own podcast‼️ they are intelligent and I really enjoy listening to them 🩷💙😍
Discernment is key. If you stay focused on God through Christ, you will not fall.
They have their own podcast. It's not alot but it's good.
This made me tear up. Such a beautiful realization
@@MrsPri_24 they have a podcast called Jeremy and Jinger on RUclips
I love how Ginger's faith and relationship with God has actually grown stronger and that Jeremy took the time to bible study with her and help her out of the "fog" of Bill Gothard's teachings. I love that they are still following Jesus together and that it didn't turn her away from following Him. God bless them. Lots of love ❤
Jeremy is a working minister isn’t he?
Me too.
I’m not religious at all but I respect the HELL out of him for helping ginger find her way to where she is now with love and education and grace and not by force.
I think the only thing he could claim is helped give her the confidence to be her own woman. To have her own thoughts and feelings about things. He did what a husband should be first he became her protector and in that protective space it allowed her time to become her real self.
But he still has her down the rabbit hole of the Bible which is just a book and pretty dang scary and cultish all on its own.
@@kadamowicz68 how that cultish?
@@graceannapatel7578 it’s a book with no proven base and no proven origin. It’s blindly followed as the word of some higher authority with many variations around the world. People fear a mystical place called hell and that shapes what the say and do. That’s a cult. It controls every essence of their lives.
@@kadamowicz68 I’m backing this comment. I’m 62…spent my life praying in faith to God. My last prayer was six yrs ago. Why? Not any people. History and science! How is it scary? Jesus is described lovingly…God? He will cast you into a lake of fire!! 😡 How humble, how loving 🥰 and I am suppose to mirror His behavior.
Jinger won the lottery with him. Very happy she married a spiritually and mentally mature man.
As well as he. She is an angel
They are few and far between
I love how Jeremy just got up and left the conversation to grab a tissue for Jinger.
Not to mention, educated and worldly.
I’d say they BOTH won the lottery!
Jeremy and Jinger exude so much wisdom. I’ve never seen someone maintain respect for her parents like this while also publicly decrying the false teaching they raised her in. Such a great episode!
I was raised up in a church where there were so many restrictions & I missed out on so much of my childhood.
When I got older & had a child I refused to raise them up in a certain denomination.
I wanted my child to enjoy her childhood with NO regrets.
It wasn’t until I was older & went to Bible school & in study the word I realized that was man made rules and not Biblical @ all !
It was so freeing and free from the condemnation as well !
Jeremy, has helped Jinger to see it was man made laws.
I love 💕 that he was grounded enough in the word to say No! No ! That’s a faults teaching.
You Go Jeremy!
@trishabaran1521 yes, you are so right, all religions are "man made" your daughter will be happier and healthier mentally not to have been brought up with religion 😊
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Hope you have a great day!
Well, there is something about guarding your ear and eye gates. What you look at, you become.
Well said!
I grew up watching the Duggars, Jinger, I was so proud of you for becoming your own and still am. I’m happy for you and Jeremy.
I love how fearless Jeremy is in sharing the truths of marriage and loyalty
Dude Jeremy is SO well spoken and so wise. What a blessing.
God blessed them both together so they may grow together. Christ is not based in fear.
24:38 this part of him explaining how God actually views us who have accepted Jesus made me cry! What a simple and beautiful way to put it. That’s grace!
Yes! While I didn't grow up in the IBLP, there were some of the same teachings that I did grow up with and hearing that brought tears to my eyes
A whole sermon on that alone would be great. ❤
I'm not Christian but that was the best breakdown of what Christianity should be I've heard in a very long time. He has an incredible way and I can see that he's probably a very loved pastor
That is beautiful. Love Jesus
I grew up in a church that believed closely to what Jinger believed but it wasn’t under IBLP. I feel like for so long I just followed rules out of fear and not because I loved God. That’s changed. I follow Him because I love Him, and nothing I do or don’t do will change that He loves me. When I realized how God viewed me, it changed my life!
Jinger is the most healthy and mature of the siblings I have seen. She and Jeremy have their hearts and heads in the right place, motivated by love for God and others, not spite, not wealth, just love.
I respect and admire Jill the most. Jinger is a close runner-up.
I really like Jill and Derrick too. The documentary Shiney Happy People shows them talking about growing up in the Goddard world
JILL & JINGER ARE Equally Healthy & Mature and thank whomever, God, Stars or the Universe, they definitely *raised themselves with 2 Wonderful Husband's and their children!!
Live your Life with kindness......❤❤😊
This couple needs their own RUclips channel teaching healthy, Godly dating/relationships. The world needs more of this content ❤
No they don’t. The world does not need this.
@@Iluvchknz I agree. These Duggars need to stop talking and live their lives without monetizing it.
What is Godly? Which God? Who decides what qualifies as Godly?
They do have a RUclips channel.
Most all the older girls have their own utube channels.
I like that Jinger didn't allow Jeremy to talk over her the few times he did it. She's found her voice and it's lovely to see. Great couple.
🙄
But she repeatedly spoke over him. Love her but that was super annoying.
Yes she did.
Exactly. She handled that really well!
Okay I’m not the only one who noticed it’s her experience not his
He only has a short part of her life
She has her whole life
Let her talk
Jimbob is regretting the day he allowed Jeremy into the family 😊 I’m so happy for her, they are a great couple , free indeed !
Prob even more Derrick Dillard. Like with him the family actually has a fued. But not with Jeremy.
Hopefully Jimbob has been influenced by what an excellent, intelligent son in law he has in Jeremy. That he truly loves his daughter like he does.❤
@@MoroccanSamareally? How so?
Jim Bob couldn’t stop God’s plan. I bet it’s a bit humbling.
@@DasZuckerhausDerrick and Jill had a legal suite for NEVER being paid to be on the show
Jimbob kept the money 😮
Jinger is the embodiment of “Honor thy father and thy mother”. The respect she shows her parents while staying true to her experience is unreal. My jaw dropped when she said, “Well I can’t speak for my parents” and continued to drop as she kept pulling away from them talking about their parents and instead referring to “the system”.
If she does that she's very dispicable
@@christim1252you mean parents tend to be detestable jerks to their daughters like mine yet I’m basically stuck with em
lucky me - sarcasm
Very different from Jill.
@@mrneveradullmoment how so?
I agree with you! Very diplomatic and respectful. I’m sure her parent’s did lots of things right and she still loves and respects them enough not to speak badly of them. Maybe she has forgiven them.
Jeremy taking this opportunity to preach on a podcast is amazing!! Great job Jeremy and jinger by sharing the gospel through your testimony!
yess!!! i love it 🥲🥲🥲
This 👏🏻
My thoughts exactly!
amen!!!
Yes! So well done!
I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but Jinger and Jeremy are just so intelligent and thoughtful it is so refreshing to hear them reflect with candor and care. What a reflection of the genuine love of God.
Jinger is so well-spoken; and Jeremy, too. So good at expressing their feelings, reasons, and faith. I'm so glad they found each other!
God brought Jeremy to you for a reason. Theology based on fear is so scary. God is so good, stay in HIS word. You broke free!❤
AMEN 🙌🏻❤️ You took the words right out of mouth. ❤❤❤
Amen
AMEN!!!!!!!🙏🏼🙌🏼❤️‼️
I agree although sadly he and jinger are part of Macarthur church who has also used his theology to hurt so many including encouraging a woman to stay with a husband who was SA his own daughter. I hope they leave that church soon too and find one sound in practice and doctrine
Praise God 🙌🏻 ✨🙌🏻 , he knew What Jinger needed in her Life all along ✨😇✨❣️... They are a Powerful Couple for the younger generation to learn from 😉💭❣️... It 💔 when she cries 😢, that's so Sad n I 🚫 wait to read her book 📚 along with the others Who have been led to write ✍🏻 About their upbringing, I 🚫 say Childhood 🧐 tho Since they really weren't Children 😞❣️... They were in a fishbowl on cameras n raising their siblings n that's Alot 😢❣️... So Sad 😭..
This is THE BEST interview that i have heard to date with Jinger and Jeremy!! All of the others seem so guarded and scripted. I feel like Jeremy spoke like a normal person and not professional preacher talk. Jinger seemed so much more relaxed and free to speak her mind as well. But everything was done so respectfully as well! Loved it!!
Yeah they both seemed relaxed and open here. It was refreshing.
I 100% agree!
This is the only interview I’ve watched start to finish. I love hearing from genuine individuals who are not out to gain recognition or attention like many (not all) of the mainstream tic tockers. Jinger and Jeremy have pure intentions and have really wise insight they are able to convey to this generation. Thanks for having these guests on your platform Matt & Abby.
I attended a "Basic Life Principals" seminar in 1972, my senior year in high school. It was held in a packed coliseum. I actually found the notebook in my hope chest a few years ago. I was shocked to find out that was the religious sect the Duggar family is in. Everybody went, it was pushed in all the Seattle high schools and "Young Life". I keep it, planning to read through it someday. No thank you, however, I do love the Duggar children. I've enjoyed seeing Jinger blossom into the beautiful woman God wants her to be through Jesus our Lord and Savior. The Lord blessed her with a wonderful husband.🙏🏻✝
So great to see her taking her space. She doesn't let him talk over her, she doesn't look at him the whole time he speaks like her sick parents do. She has found a way to grow and be better for it.
So much respect for this couple! I grew up Amish and leaving that culture was hard because I loved my people.
Then why leave?
@@Sunnydreamer1470probably because it’s another similar fundamentalist group.
Isn't it strange, her parents were so fearful of outside influences to the extent that there was no worldly music, no team sports, no school, but they invited total strangers into their home and gave them access to their children's rooms?
The kids learned at home
The kids learned at home
The kids learned at home
The kids learned at home
Yeah and they put them on tv despite not letting the kids watch them
I just have to stop in the middle of this video to say AMEN!!!! I love that you are preaching about the freedom that we have in Christ and how God sees us the way He sees His son as blameless, righteous, and pure. Not because of anything that we've done but because of what Christ has done. What a witness and so thankful that this platform is being used to bring God glory!!! My favorite episode thus far.
Agreed!!
Yes & Amen!
Jeremy’s conversations including how Jesus loves us, the truth, and explaining Bible verses is wonderful to listen to. And he’s so loving the way he showed Jinger the Biblical truths. They’re so patient with each other. What a truly Christian marriage.
Jinger and Jill are my two favorites!!! To see how they both escaped from this “cult” of a nightmare if beyond amazing and wish nothing but luck, love, and support as they both continue to unlearn habits.
Mine too. Also really liked Jessa. I’m so happy for Jill and Jinger that they were about to get real clarity on everything after getting married. They both married amazing men that seem absolutely perfect for them!
This was a very thought-provoking conversation and I appreciate how Matt and Abby sat down with them and let them speak for themselves.
Jeremy, you did such a good job presenting the Gospel in this show. Jinger, thank you for speaking so graciously about your family and for continually pointing back to the truth of Christ and how He has shown you the truth of his character. ❤
Honestly the Derick and Jill Dillard and Jinger and Jeremy have been my favorite guests so far! They are so wise and both speak in a way that is honoring but truth. Now I gotta read her book lol
If you can you should listen on audible hearing both books from their voices! It’s so powerful!
Both books are very compelling, I read each in one day!!
I think it was nice that jinger didn't say anything against Jill even though they went about things differently. Like with the money stuff. Although now that I'm thinking about it, jinger probably saw the consequences of Jill fighting the money and realized she didn't want to be shunned the way Jill had been.
@lzkt, That's because Jinger may still get some money from her dad when in need. She also didn't want to stand up to her Parents like Jill did! Jill stood up for herself !
I read it as a former IBLP child and it was terrific.
Absolutely in awe of Jeremy Vuolo and his perspective on God's word. Very intelligent.
It's so great that Jeremy HAD TO go through those teachings because it was so helpful with him understanding his wife's belief's better and helping her be pulled out from the things that are not based on the Bible.
I still struggle with the "Angry God" and it's so hard for me to shake it.
I remember watching the show and thinking "Jinger is going to break free from this someday!" What a blessing it is to see her love for Jesus, her respect for her parents and her complete freedom from legalism. Great interview!❤
It does make me think about how her life was like the movie , " The Truman show" as Truman starts to figure out things for himself and realises he is on a set, and we walks out the door to Free himself. ❤
There was literally a whole website called Free Jinger at one point. Pretty sure that’s where she got the inspiration for her book title.
Jeremy you're spitting straight Gospel truths, man! Keep sharing the real and true Gospel unapologetically and bravely! May God keep you and sustain you and your family!
I am so happy for Jinger. She found a such a kind guy to share her life with!
Amazing couple all around, grew up watching the show. The amount of respect he still has for her family and her, and is letting her grow… The way he talks about her 🥹
I was raised with fear based, Bill Gothard teachings, southern Baptist.. and its taken me literally years to even feel like i can have my own relationship with God. I dont believe in the culty fear based watered down Christianity. Jeremy is definitely closer to God than me but i love how he talks about Christianity because its so close to what i believe
I really respect and admire how Jinger doesn’t ever dishonor or put down her parents or family even after reviewing how she grew up in the IBLP system. I see her heart and appreciate her level of understanding for her parents mindset and intentions. It’s also so admirable that she didn’t throw the baby out with the bath water and dismiss her relationship with Jesus. I’m amazed at her resolve and dedication in this journey away from the IBLP system and the grace she has exhibited along every step of the way.
Her dad chose her pedo brother over his daughters multiple times. I'm not saying they can't love their parents. But they are clearly conflict avoidance that's ok if what they want but it's not superior to speaking the truth to someone who is practising evil. Jim Bob covered up Josh's crimes and tried to lie about them. The Bible says everything done in the dark will be brought to light. Some conflict is also Biblical.
This was beautifully put 💗
You need to do an interview with Jinger and Jill together.
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I guess I’m just curious if like with Jeremy and Derick or without Jeremy and Derick
Thank you Jinger and Jeremy for feeling safe enough to open up on our show!
Jinger and Jill Dugger were my 2 favorite podcasts so far!!!
What happened to peace out dude?!?!
This has been my favourite episode of the podcast so far! Love Jinger & Jeremy ❤ & Matt & Abby too obviously 🙄 lol 😂
I wholeheartedly agree, this has been one of the best episodes you have done. Kudos to you both for having this lovely couple and other members of the Duggar family on your podcast. Continue to stay true to yourselves. I have really enjoyed watching you evolve in your journey.
It seems as if Jinger and Jeremy have not been openly discussing their situation with their friends and family since I heard about Jill Duggar's situation through Jill Duggar's blog
His comments about marriage and love is spot on. So many relationships are so superficial, and so many people don’t understand how love is a choice
I could choose to love anyone!
What an excellent interview! I felt like the questions were asked kindly and respectfully. I am impressed with the gentle and kind approach to the answers as well. I really respect Jinger and Jeremy and their approach to all of the things they have been through and how they are moving forward.
Love them, she is SO brave & he just seems like the most genuine, respectful guy. They both seemed to help each other grow in different ways. I hope to meet someone that brings that level of calm to my life & helps me to grow in my faith. I am SO happy to see where her journey took her after being put through so much, all while in front of a camera growing up.
They are in SUCH a good, healthy place & relationship with God now. I am so, so in awe listening to them speaking about their life and relationship with the Bible and their faith. I am so glad they have found their place.
The Truman show being the first movie ever to watch is actually amazing. That was a good choice hubby.
i love how jeremy lets her talk and tell her story. always watched the duggars growing up and i really admire jinger for her testimony & keeping her children off social media
48:43 -- "love is not a feeling first; it's a decision" ❤️❤️❤️
That is SO good! I love that so much!
Both Jeremy and Jinger have a very mature and healthy attitude about their past and present life. They have done a lot of soul searching and talking through so many issues and have come out with the best answers.
I have been a Christian for a long time. Yet. I still struggle with how God sees me because I know I am so imperfect. I so needed to hear this. Thank you, Jinger and Jeremy, for being so transparent and willing to share. Thank you, Matt and Abby, for having them on.
We’re All imperfect doesn’t really matter perfection as far as I’m concerned just doesn’t really exist in this world
Wow, this is what marriage must do for two people. Very moved by their decision to remain respectful to the duggar mum and dad.
So glad they respected and protected her parents who protected her sexual abuser brother.
a GOOD marriage can do this for two people.
@@meganbaril7847That’s not what’s happening. Sad that you aren’t understanding.
I grew up around Jinger’s family and she truly is such a genuine and sweet human! I loved this episode and hearing more about her life and testimony, great interview Matt and Abby! 🤍
Are you Jingers age ?? Or are you older?? Are all the kids the same ?Do You like her Parents ?
@@SweetPea6348 I’m actually quite a bit younger than Jinger. I’ve never had a bad experience with any of the Duggars, they’ve always been so genuine and kind to me and my family! They’re honestly such a sweet family.
I’ve read over the years many times the folks that knew the Duggar family or would see them around town how genuine and friendly they were. 😊
@@valerieking2592 Yes! Always friendly and extremely kind. 🥹
@@claytonandkatherine I do think there’s something to be said having so many children that as far as I know only one walked away from God. That’s all I know though from the years I watched them. Michele even though she’s a little younger than I am taught me to be more soft spoken to others in my life. I still fail at times but she was a huge example to me as the kind of godly woman I wanted to be. 🥹
What I loved the most about this was Jinger and Jeremy taking over each other and catching themselves and taking turns to talk. Jinger, who was taught that her husband's voice would be more important than her own and to make herself small and quiet has found her voice and these 2 have a beautiful balance in listening and speaking. ❤❤❤ @jingervuolo
What a beautiful testimony!!! I love this story. I've followed the Duggars since they first aired and watched these kids grow up. I prayed for them to see the truth in the scriptures. God is so good. God bless them. Please have them back sometime soon
I grew up homeschooled with the IBLP background and going to what I called “homeschool camp” which was the Big Sandy conference. In 2018 we started going to the Duggars house every Friday, such a sweet family and I made great friends, we had to wear skirts at Big Sandy and their house which we didn’t have to do in our day to day lives (which was so lukewarm and confusing) my parents say “chew the meet, spit out the bones” (I do not agree with) but long story short. I saw an interview about Jinger releasing her book and she and Jeremy speaking on it, and I completely had a melt down because everything I had known felt like a lie. So my husband surprised me with her book and it completely changed my life. I’m beyond thankful Jinger decided to do what she did. And now have an even closer relationship with God than ever because I’m not scared anymore. The teachings were absolutely confusing and my family/parents still are teaching it. So still have to navigate through that. And still disentangling some things step by step. But I have faith that God has a plan. Thank you Matt and Abby for having them on! I couldn’t wait to watch!
So glad you found your way out of that! The "chew the meat, spit out the bones" CAN be a good way to see life but then again, I can't imagine making my family attend IBLP, wear skirts and "act the part" and pretend .... that would be SO confusing to children! 😥
My dad went to a few IBLP conferences in the 70's but ultimately saw it for what it was. We had a beautifully illustrated book with short stories in it that was a Gothard book and my dad would read to us here and there but would come to a part that was "off" and would say, "okay that's weird.." and skip it. LOL
The key is to know scripture and only use that as a measuring stick to all other teachings and ideas!
If I’m recalling correctly… she wrote the book especially for ppl like you. 💕 So glad to read you comment.
From what I hear from Jill and Jinger, I find it admirable how much they respect their parents and realize that they just wanted the best for them. They give them a lot of grace, and I feel like we should all learn from that.
Well said.
I loved this episode. I just found out YESTERDAY that a friend I've known for years grew up with the Duggars, went to Bible studies at their house, and played broomball with them as kids. I knew she grew up in a conservative Christian community in Arkansas but I had no idea that she knew them personally. The stories she has are incredible. She said she wants to read Jinger's and Jill's books but hasn't quite gotten to a place in healing from religious trauma that she feels ready without being triggered
I read both Jinger and Jill’s books. I’m a child abuse survivor so I understand your friend. Prayers
Jeremy speaks so eloquently about his faith and I believe he is filled with the Holy Spirit speaking truth. Perhaps him becoming part of the Duggar family will bring healing to the entire family someday.
Jinger looked like she had the most spunk, and was the subject of a light-hearted "free Jinger!" movement.
I love that Matt and Abby allowed them to share freely regarding their faith and beliefs.
They share the same beliefs on Christianity cause I believe they were raised with Christian influence by their parents
Jinger and Jeremy seem like such a wonderful, loving and level-headed couple!! I give Jinger so much credit for leaving the IBLP - which must have been incredibly hard but only proves how strong she really is. Jeremy seems like a very supportive husband!!
Just bought the book after listening to this episode! The wisdom and humility Jinger has is so different and unique. And Jeremy's leadership and understanding and probably patience with the whole process is so incredible.
I just love that they have found their own way without disrespect to their parents…..held firm and showed that love prevails.
I found so much strength and encouragement through your story Ginger. I grew up in a strict Christian home and was afraid of everything. Since getting married (2016), my husband has helped me work through my fears. There is so much freedom in God's truth!
I'm glad they touched on the fact that reading the Bible requires learning and diving into context, historical and author/audience. The Bible was written at a different time, in a different culture, and those influences are present as the Bible was written by men.
I also learned what unconditional love was when I had my daughter. The way I saw and felt about her, I was able to connect to how God sees and feels about me. I have so much more peace and joy in my relationship with God now, with that understanding.
He really liked and accepted her and her world! He did a lot to be with her. Huge props to him. They seem normal to have gone through all that.
Jeremy, I love your passion for Christ and how you are ministering to so many just through this conversation.
I respect Jeremy & Jinger so much…she’s really been through a lot and I cried hearing all of the things she grew up with, so sad! Thankfully Jeremy helped her to see the truth and she’s evolved so much. I look forward to buying her book! Excellent show!!
I just love how she is handling the situation. No blame. They raised great children
I love how well Jeremy communicates. It’s so interesting to hear him talk.
Jeremy said it best, Gothard kept people entrapped in fear….enslaved. Jinger is such a well spoken and articulate, strong woman
Loved their perspective so much. I was raised in Christianity and had a lot of fear even around those teachings and Jeremy's breakdown of the word is truly eye opening! Love it.
Raised with healthy Christianity. -Knowing the Lord Jesus was my savior. But none of this weird stuff where it controlled your life completely. You’ve got to use a lot of common sense when learning about the Bible and a relationship with the Lord.
I was such a fan of your family that i refused to hear negativity about your family through your interview, but I’m so glad i did listen. I respect the fact that you’re still honoring your parents throughout this process even though you disagree with some of the teachings, and have found your way in Christ.
I understand Jinger's parents have their issues, but man did they raise a lovely woman. Jinger is beautiful, well spoken, seems to have a heart of gold and is just an all around lovely human being. Among a lot of wrongs, they certainly did something right.
Childre in the IBLP also largely raise themselves. I know this because I was raised with a lot of those teachings. Raising children is rules and fear by and large not actually lovingly shaping the person. I'm not saying her parents did everything wrong but not everything about who Jinger is today is due to her parents. She herself said she was very fearful and a different persons years ago.
Agree
Some people are lovely despite their parents.
Really? She is meek, weak and soft in her words. And still believes in a bunch of nonsense hogwash. It’s just slightly different hogwash.
You can tell the guy is more cocky and confident, he seems like a know it all. and she’s more weak. She’s pretty uneducated, which isn’t all her fault since her parents never sent her to school, ever, but she seems the type to be a follower
The most delicious irony of the Duggar family is that, so far, every single daughter who has married has ended up defecting from the family ideology. Jim Bob chose his daughter's husbands, and their husbands lovingly and compassionately led them away from a cult of control, isolation, repression, and deception. Every single one.
These girls were never treated like whole people by their own parents. They were treated like commodities, and their religion taught them to believe in their own depravity and lack of self-identity. They weren't people; they were vessels.
Then they met young men who treated them with dignity and respect, who treated them like whole people. There's no going back to dehumanization once someone you love has affirmed you are, in fact, a whole person deserving of dignity and respect.
Jessa still follows it.. You never see her in pants, she's doing the same thing her parents did.
@@fawnnelson3369She’s been wearing pants openly in her RUclips videos.
Well said !
I think Joy Anna is pretty immersed in the culture still
Joy isn't. She and Austin attend a different church too.
I loved this podcast! The way Jinger and Jeremy talked about their faith and the changing of their faith was beautiful!
I have a lot of respect for Jinger and Jeremy. They are both very wise beyond their years. So glad that Jeremy encouraged her to dig deeper into the bible to see the truth for herself. I'm sure it made her relationship with Jesus much stronger as well.
The fact that Jeremy words it so well with the “strategy of keeping people entrapped through fear”.. such healing affirming words.
Thank god he loves books his wisdom has helped I’m sure
The fact she came from Michele and Jim bob blows my mind 😮 she turned out to be such a lovely, smart woman.. I hope she continues to find success and continues to speak out
Jeremy is amazing. Imagine him counseling couples and having to jump through these ridiculous twisted hoops
There was a reason that God brought Jeremy into Jinger's life. Major respect for her and Jeremy respecting her parents but still having and making their own thoughts and decisions.
This was a very well done interview kudos to you all
Clearly she’s a gem who was raised amazingly well, but holy cow this guy is such a lottery win. What a an amazing couple, fully in sync with each other with great morals and I love that despite a few disagreements she’s speaking respectfully of her family.
Jeremy is a godly man, grounded in surrender to the Lord. Ginger ,mtoo, loved the Lord, and hernhearrr was humble..so precious.
Jinger and Jeremy have quickly become some of my favorite "influencers". They are both so well spoken and truly seem like genuine, good people. ❤
Thank you so much, Matt & Abby for having Jinger and Jeremy on! It’s amazing that even after all the IBLP trauma, they still have relationships with Jesus! It was sooo good when Jeremy talked about Jesus’s blood covering everything. No matter where you are in life, no one is too far gone for the love of Jesus. Thanks :) I loved hearing people not afraid to open up about their faith!
So thankful for the power of Gods Word. Truth really does set us free! 🙌🏻
Mad respect for Jinger protecting their kids and not posting them on social media for clout.
What a balanced perspective on her wild upbringing. Spoken with such grace and understanding about a messed life turned into a blessed life,
The way she doesn’t say Josh’s name but makes sure to say Jana and johns. Mad respect.
I noticed that too. He’s such a disgusting monster to those girls.
Who is Josh? Who is Jana & John? Curious on the context of this comment as I do not know their story.
@@joyjohnson8645Josh is the eldest brother who assaulted Jinger and a few of the other sisters
@@joyjohnson8645 the oldest brother that’s in prison for child pornography.
@@joyjohnson8645Josh was abusive to many of the girls in the family. And is currently in prison for child porn. The others are more siblings. They all have J names
1:22:09 love how she didn’t even say her “oldest brothers” name 😮💨 she was so smooth with that, good work Jinger… he’s not even worth naming 👏 Happy to see her and Jeremy doing well and not sharing their kids online… they are FREE indeed ❤
But that's also not Godly....he was a part of this cult and not taught properly...it's not okay but God forgives all...
Absolutely love how respectful ginger and Jeremy are. Great example ❤
Jinger, I am so glad that you found the truth in God's Word...and it set you free
Jeremy is 100% right. Marriage is a commitment. I choose to love you. And I love you inspite of your flaws. Flaws are not foundations to leave a marriage or even serious relationship.
Jeremy and Jinger you were very well spoken, mature, and gave your message in such an honoring way! Thank you for speaking truth and saying the hard things to help others. Well done faithful servants!