Reminder: If you disagree with me, that's totally cool. This video was me sharing *my* perspective on the show, and I'm very aware of how subjective my opinions are. Because they're opinions. But to be clear on one point: I think Matthew Waterson's performance as Magneto is fantastic. Really, everyone here is giving a great performance. Edit: Oh also I have nothing against Ace of Base, I just felt like making some goofs.
I don't have any disagreements with you. I just think you should have been a lot more careful with how you started off hanging your hat on the director. That... might backfire. ....fast and hard. Unless you really do like it rough...
I love how genuine this show is. They take themselves completely seriously even when wearing goofy costumes and calling each other by their comic book names. Theres no self deprecating dialogue or jokes about the concept. Its refreshing after decades of whedonisms.
>The entire Madelyne Pryor storyline feels like a half-season's worth of material, burned through in 3 episodes. To be fair....that's what Claremont said when he wrote that story in the comics back in the 80s. To quote him on this "The original Madelyne storyline was that, at its simplest level, she was that one in a million shot that just happened to look like Jean Grey [a.k.a. the first Phoenix]! And the relationship was summed up by the moment when Scott says: "Are you Jean?" And she punches him! That was in Uncanny X-Men #174. Because her whole desire was to be deeply loved for herself not to be loved as the evocation of her boyfriend's dead romantic lover and sweetheart. I mean, it's a classical theme. You can go back to a whole host of 1930s films, 1940s, Hitchcock films-but it all got invalidated by the resurrection of Jean Grey in X-Factor #1. The original plotline was that Scott marries Madelyne, they have their child, they go off to Alaska, he goes to work for his grandparents, he retires from the X-Men. He's a reserve member. He's available for emergencies. He comes back on special occasions, for special fights, but he has a life. He has grown up. He has grown out of the monastery; he is in the real world now. He has a child. He has maybe more than one child. It's a metaphor for us all. We all grow up. We all move on. Scott was going to move on. Jean was dead get on with your life. And it was close to a happy ending. They lived happily ever after, and it was to create the impression that maybe if you came back in ten years, other X-Men would have grown up and out, too. Would Kitty stay with the team forever? Would Nightcrawler? Would any of them? Because that way we could evolve them into new directions, we could bring in new characters. There would be an ongoing sense of renewal, and growth and change in a positive sense. Then, unfortunately, Jean was resurrected, Scott dumps his wife and kid and goes back to the old girlfriend. So it not only destroys Scott's character as a hero and as a decent human being it creates an untenable structural situation: what do we do with Madelyne and the kid? ... So ultimately the resolution was: turn her into the Goblin Queen and kill her off."
@@DarkKnightBatman420 She does EVENTUALLY become kinda sorta a good person in the comics, after dying, getting resurrected, being on like 4 different villain teams, etc. The way she died in the comics was in the battle episode 3 had, Jean and Madelyne start fighting in Jean's mind as Madelyne attempts a "if I die I'm taking you with me" only to be utterly overpowered by the Phoenix being reborn inside Jean.
@@SeruraRenge11 Cool to hear, but I learned not to get too attached to any status quo of comics. Good things will get snatched up by new writers or editorial meddling and trampled over, and sometimes forgotten as time rolls on. I'm glad for the screen time though. That's appreciation in itself.
I totally loved a lot of the compressed storytelling but I really feel like Madelyne and Jean suffered the most from just Any% Speedrunning through their whole thing. I got whiplash when the Phoenix suddenly appeared at the end to save the day. It was the one moment that didn't really feel earned and felt way out of place.
@@felix_forrester Honestly just trying to explain Bastion was a trial and a half for the writers. They mention he's half-Nimrod but without really saying who or what Nimrod is (in his timeline he was basically the final, ultimate sentinel)
This show's dialogue, animation and story were absolutely insane, but what really hooked me in was Magneto. Matthew Waterson killed it in this role, and he had some of the best lines in the show. "I am trying to be better. Please, do not make me let you down." "I promised a boy a future free of fear, only to watch his frightened eyes be vaporized inside his tiny skull becaused he believed in me. In the dream you had me sell." "Oh how I've waited to say these two words to you old friend. SHUT UP!" Can't wait for season 2. P.S. I also laughed to hard when Cyclops said: "What'd you'd expect? Black leather?"
All of Nightcrawler's fight scenes are top tier. Hell, hats off to everyone behind the STUNNING visuals. I've said this to many people but they are the most jaw dropping and amazing visuals I have seen in a very long time.
If you like cool teleportation powers in animated fights then may I recommend Mob Psycho 100? One of the main antagonists in the second season of that show has teleportation as his main power and the animation team did a spectacular job with it.
One of the many standouts of X-Men '97: Cyclops. Absolutely love seeing him receive the attention and respect he deserves. Seriously, his live-action roles have been greatly underutilized. It's one of the X-Men films' greatest crimes. Hopefully, the MCU doesn't turn a blind eye to arguably the BEST mutant in the game.
He always got that attention. Ya’ll just now coming to this conclusion because you never watched any of the animated episodes from back in the day. And you never read any comics. You’re just now realizing he’s fire. Us REAL fans always loved and appreciated him.
I agree with you that the show burmed through storylines a but quickly, but quite honestly, i'm much happier to have this show burning through storylines a bit too fast compared to most shows these days that don't know how to fill their airtime, taking enough plot for like 3 episodes and stretching it out to 8 or 10.
One of the best lines in the show was Jubilee talking to Roberto: "Do you want your parents learning who you are on the 5 o' clock news?'" Apparently, the Pulse nightclub shooting inspired this line.
Being a continuation of the 90s series was the best decision for X-men. That series was not subtle whatsoever, which gives leeway to just outright state the problems it wants to tackle. The fact that it treats its audience with nostalgia and as an audience that has aged since the original run helps make it amazing.
@@dylanrinker6831 Really? I couldn't even get through _Moon Knight_ it was so weird. I still don't don't fully understand how things changed so much that the _disguises_ he would adopt for investigations mutated into being _actual Dissociative Identity Disorder_ with his previous disguise personae retconned into actually being "alters" that been appearing since childhood. (I remember at one point one of the comics even saying that Marc supposedly developed DID because he had _used his disguise personae too often_ and it shattered his mind, or something? If __that_ was how things worked then _acting_ would be the most mentally dangerous profession in the world.) I was a _big_ fan of _Moon Knight_ back in the '80s, and when I started picking up a newer issues to check out in the 2010s I was pretty baffled by a lot of things (but the Volume 7 from a few years ago was _really_ good after I got up to speed on things.) But it was honestly a lot like starting to read _Batman_ or _Detective Comics_ after several years away, only to discover that in the interim Batman and "Matches" Malone had _somehow_ become actual alternate personalities of Bruce Wayne.
We’re eating pretty good when it comes to super hero animated shows this year. Invincible season 2, my adventures with Superman season 2, and X-men 97. The only outlier is unfortunately Megamind rules.
This show has pure comicbook energy running in its veins, from the presentation and writing. The animation taking notes from the best parts of anime just shows what I've thought for years, that both mediums would fit each other in the best of ways.
I just binge watched the first season and it was a helluva trip! When heard Sebastian Shaw, I genuinely thought it was Scott, until I realised it was Todd Haberkorn. I still can’t believe that they used THAT image on Logan; that was devastating!!
It’s so X-men to the point where it decides to sidestep answering the Magneto vs Xavier debate by introducing a third and much less nuanced party that everyone can beat up. Definitely one of the best cartoons ever made; I love it even if I wished the ending was better
@@Rikarious nah, I think they made it abundantly clear they can’t answer the question to a satisfactory degree. The second they point out Magneto might actually have a better argument than Xavier (and not saying he does, just the story presents the possibility) he proceeds to try to end the entire world. Magneto’s decision to end the world ends the debate. It’s no longer two sides that have equally valid points of view; Xavier’s side becomes right by default
@@leftistdegeneratejs I get it, but it becomes a problem when the story keeps arguing Magneto’s way might be the correct way…only for him to proceed to invalidate it by doing something insane. It makes the return to the status quo more frustrating. The story points out Xavier might actually be wrong in his approach, but we just have to accept it as the default because the only other option (that might be more valid) can’t work because the guy presenting it is an insane supervillain. It leads to both sides feeling ineffective
I’m super happy x-men 97 did so good (haven’t watched it yet gotta re sub to Disney plus) but with the spidey cameo, a HUGE part of me wants to see him come back with his own show telling stories from the Spider-Man comics of the 90s and maybe onward. Also we need to here that guitar riff again
I agree, I noticed two times they played variations of the show's theme in the show itself. And I think both fit perfectly with the scene. I would love the Asteroid M falling of the theme
I love Wolverine. Ever since I was a little kid he was my favorite. And he works BEST as a support character. I love that he's not the main focus in this show. I was skeptical about the old rogue VA returning at first, she just sounds way different from the 90s (understandably). But that delivery at the end of episode 5 brought me to tears. And after that I was 100% on board. This show's only real flaw, to me, is that it's too fast; there's SO much in each episode. If they'd just added like 3-5 minutes to each episode there would have been more space to breath between big moments. But goddamn, I LOVE this series so damn much. Every episode had me grinning like a kid on Saturday mornings.
Yeah, the Brazilian rich boy was a bit weak... that's it, that's my entire criticism of the show. It was... holy crap I love it. So much. SO GOOD! So well written! More of this Disney, please. I'll even PAY for Disney plus if you put out more content like this! It is absolutely some of the best, not only Xmen content, but content ever.
I'm really hoping for something. They don't fall into the repetition trap. They need to shine a few characters on, send them out and rotate in new blood. Character dynamics and interpersonal interactions need to happen and then bring back the exited characters and send out the rotation characters after a bit. Roberto needs to go off and get people cheering for his powerset. He clobbered Bastion at the end and it was a freaking cutaway scene. Ouch! If hindsight was 20/20 they could have had done something there.
Captain America was completely in character. We have 50 years of comic history where Cap is willing to *say* he supports mutants and subtly let some things slide, but never actually put himself out there and take a hard stand. At least until very recently. Cap's not perfect and mutantsbare where his flaws shine brightest.
My one disagreement is Cap. He never said he wouldn't help or tried to stop Rogue, he just asked for time to do it right and bring the Avengers with him. She immediately turned his response into a "you're with us or against us, and I've decided you're against us" moment. The only other time he could have interfered is when Kelly launched the missiles, and Captain America isn't going to attack the president in the middle of the White House. (y'know, unless it's Richard Nixon leading a HYDRA splinter cell or Ronald Reagan mutated into a lizard monster.)
@@shadowldrago Yes. Nixon* was leading a faction called The Secret Empire and committed suicide when Cap unmasked him. Reagan was mutated into a snake man by The Viper, but eventually cured after a fight. *OK, the POTUS leading The Secret Empire wasn't named and was kept offscreen once unmasked, but it lines up with Nixon's presidency.
@@shadowldrago Oh, you sweet summer child... But yeah, even crossovers with real celebrities get nuts, like Punisher getting pistol whipped by Eminem, Superman desperately trying to stop Pat Boone's song about him from becoming popular, or Spider-Man and the cast of Saturday Night Live fighting the Silver Samurai. And yes, all of those are real too.
I mean X-2 is still pretty damn good but yeah, it still had some of the core problems endemic to live action comic movies even though it was made before Iron Man created a formula all marvel movies must follow until the end of time.
Scott the one episode of Genosha was enough emotional devastation, I could not handle it if we got to fall in love with it like a member of the family before it was ripped from our hearts
OH MY GOD, my comment request came true! I prayed for this and it HAPPENED! I feel like this show is what a lot of folks who haven't actually gone back to it REMEMBER it being. It's powerful and deep and beautiful and I KINDA wish they'd given Grant Morrison a few more flowers since their "E For Extinction" storyline gave this entire series some of its best moments, but at the end of the day, I get it.
Definitely felt like a team show. Everyone got something to do, and it was great. Definitely wish it had at least 4 more episodes to expand on Madeleine Pryor, Genosha, and maybe give us a bit more Storm before her powers are gone. Also, while I definitely don't mind he got limited focus this season, an episode focusing on Wolverine with Morph tagging along as he deals with something (probably related to his past, lets be real) would have been welcome.
I re-watched the original series right before the new series started, and it took me a few episodes to get used to the "aged" voices of Wolverine and Rogue. As soon as I heard Rogue's voice, I knew we probably wouldn't be getting those high-pitched "Rogue screams" in this new series.
I am going to wildly disagree on the Matthew Waterson point. I thought he was absolutely perfect. We don't need to have an older person playing the role and we definitely don't need a younger person trying to "sound old". Magneto just needs to have maturity and weight with just enough pain coming out of the pores and Waterson does that in spades. I would marry that voice. Also he's very hot. (second point moved to new comment due to reply)
@@KaiserNeko {secondary point} I also disagree on Genosha. Giving it time is exactly what would STRIP the weight it had. People already wouldn't shut up about the potential of the Mutant Massacre coming along with endlessly talking about the idea of Cassandra Nova being the villain. Had it gotten multiple episodes before the attack, you already PREPARED for it to happen. LITERALLY NO ONE was prepared for how it happened or how soon and the hammer drop it very effective. Plus you can spend the time with people emotionally dealing with the reality of the situation instead of the fantasy of what might happen (as people normally expect it around 2-3 episodes before the finale). While I want LONGER episodes, I don't necessarily want MORE. I just want more time in the episodes to do more and still tell the story the way they did. It was already effective, but I want the fleshing out to be contained in the episodes themselves instead of more episodes later.
@@ShinobiPhoenix-YT0 See, this one I'm a little more adamant about. Genosha-- within this narrative-- is only barely mentioned before we're suddenly there, experiencing it and what it means to mutant kind. A whole new government has been established, roles are shifting and being created. It feels like a grandiose change, but the weight of it is lessened when the impact finally hits because all we got was half an episode to learn about it. I think it still works, mind you. ALL of it still works, to one degree or another. Just, with Genosha specifically, it genuinely believe it could've benefited from more time. Hell, like ya said, maybe if the episode was longer, and we'd gotten more time to experience it in a single episode, that would've made up the difference.
@@KaiserNeko This is still a continuation of the original story, in 97 we got enough of the tidbits in episodes 1 and 2 to grasp the outer world building without it hitting you over the head visually. Especially E2 with Magneto of all people having ABSOLUTE confidence in rescuing the Morlocks and spending resources to relocate them to Genosha. That being a place Not-Yet-Max believes to be safe and happy vs how it was in the previous seasons, which Magneto brings up outright regarding how Charles and the X-Men didn't use their resources to SOCIALLY help other Mutants. The Morlocks in the same episode are watching Magneto's Trial on the ship out in the open safe instead of hiding. That alone speaks volumes to the changes in the world. One of Beau's "homework" assignments was to go back to the episodes Sanctuary 1 and 2 which is literally Magneto going to Genosha to bring the mutant slaves to be home with him. The response being kill Magneto for taking "our property". This same Magneto is now confident enough in the changes to Genosha to support and fund relocation to it. That's enough worldbuilding for me. It's subtle but impactful, just like the humans being comfortable using Sentinel tech on themselves as early as the first 10 minutes of Episode 1 (which was my first real clue the villain was Bastion along with the Sentinels having been added to the end of the Intro). They added enough clues throughout the episodes of many things outside of the contained episodes. We all expected to go to Genosha, but we also expected to be the vehicle leading to the finale, not Game of Thrones us in the middle. I think they did enough with the time they were forced to deal with, though getting no-break hour episodes instead of a max of 40 minutes would have been nice.
His UN speech is one of my favorite moments from the show, he is by far one of the best characters in the show (Granted, every character is the best but he definitely one of my favorites lol)
What I would really like is either significantly extended episodes, or maybe a web-series that "fills" in the gaps; give us the time to grow with Genosha or slow down at some points. It was great, no doubt- but some points of inflection, moments to contemplate, would be good as well.
It's almost like when you have a creator who actually gives a shit about the thing they're making and isn't just being asked to churn out garbage for a quick buck, they will make something good if given the time and money to do it.
14:13 thank you so much for Criticizing Captain America's potrayal in this show. His potrayal in the MCU made him one of my favorite Superheroes and how hes just seen as a stooge for the Government feels so out of character when they had a an interesting idea with him having a Lead on Trask. It feels more like a US Agent potrayal rather than Cap would really act,especially with heroes hes worked with before in this universe with Wolverine and Captain America having history in this universe
As someone who only ever watched Spiderman. What hooked me was that Tagline from Epuside one for the trailer, "To me, My Xmen." Which slapped. Every week was an anticipation. The Cameo's though are hit or miss, especially with Mary Jane not because Finally, FINALLY Spidey actually won, but because we NEED to now know how he won. His Cameo in Episode 8 as Spidey was perfect because it was that, a Cameo. Overall like you said, Can't wait for Season 2
I cannot get over how liberating the medium of animation is. Allowing a marvel property to feel like something from the comics rather then something from the films being aped in the comics.
Seriously why did you have to remind me of episode 5. I just got over that heart breaking ending 😭 Although I agree with you hands down it was the best episode of series that had 10 amazing episodes. I was so glad they gave both Storm and Cyclops the respect that the films never once gave them. That desert scene with her turning the sand to glass still gives me chills. Cyclops arc with him blaming himself for what he viewed as abandoning his son even though in reality he was saving his life was heartbreaking to watch but had a very satisfying ending. Seriously this show is worth the Disney+ subscription alone.
Honestly pretty on point with your review, I do hope that season 2 has either more episodes than this season to world build a little bit or at the very least slow the pace down slightly so we can get invested in what's going on. Like the Genosha attack would've felt more impactful if we got to see it long enough as a paradise for mutants that it's truly a safe haven that people made their home. It felt more like a vacation destination for mutants rather than a home with the pacing.
I was really hoping you guys would talk about _X-Men '97._ I actually wasn't even a fan of the original _X-Men_ cartoon back in the '90s, despite being a total 16 year-old comic book nerd when it premiered... something about the animation and the general overly-kiddified censorship of '90s Marvel cartoons just turned me off and I couldn't get past the 1st Season. But _this_ show takes everything that the original show _should_ have been and just _transcends_ it, even taking the original's art style that I couldn't stomach and _my God did they managed to make it work._ This show is actually better than the current comic books (but the X-Men completely abandoning Xavier's dream and becoming Immortal Fascist Mutant Supremacist Utopians is hard _not_ to surpass. The X-Men should be oppressed minorities who strive to fight for a world that hates and fears them, _not_ facing eternal genocide _all the damn time._ They ruined the X-Men by making everything so damn bleak and turning all of general humanity into horrible scumbags, when Claremont was always careful to show normal humans in any crowd standing up for mutants against people attacking them. Nowadays its' _only_ attackers, and the stories have lost a huge amount of nuance and gone downhill because of it.
X-Men '97 really does feel like a near-perfect reboot, in that it carries over a lot of the classic, iconic visuals and concepts, while modernizing it in a nuanced and constructive way. It heavily improves on the visuals, and ages up the content, written for a more general audience instead of just children. Which is GOOD, because adults are going to be the ones remembering this show, these designs, these versions of the characters. Not allowing the writing to reflect that audience would've been a terrible mistake. It also allows for more mature and nuanced stories about bigotry, identity, revolutionary action. It doesn't have to shy away from the actual consequences of persecution, nor violence inherent in both a corrupt system, and defiance against said system. I would've talk about that more in more in my review, but I didn't want to get too heavy. Still trying to find my footing with that.
All I want for season 2 is one particular person to say one line. "The dream is dead." I can't believe they're set up to do it. I'm still getting over getting animated Second Coming Bastion.
It's funny that I commented on the last GTFS review that I was hoping that you guys would review X-Men 97, and the next day, here it is. I know it's just a coincidence, but I still find it funny. Also, to be fair to Sunspot, he does get better as the season progressed.
i feel like i’m the only one who highly PREFERS the trial of magneto costume. the original is awesome and definitely more iconic, but man. those gloves, the big M, the no helmet look, i’m all about it
I liked X-Cutioner's quote for ironically (or whatever word applies here) being applicable to himself and whoever is whining about different people existing. It's just begging to be used against bigots pretending they're victims. PS It also works with so many annoying villains claiming the world is bad for not being perfect to them.
Much as I would love there to be more than one Jennifer Hale, I fear that the famous Femshep actress is singular, not plural. Apologies to the editor. The show was superb, and I'm gonna geek out about the level of sakuga a show can have when it isn't an anime studio working under abysmal crunch and, more importantly, funded by big D+, for like the amount of time it takes for a second season. Because I want MOAR.
X-men '97 gave me my fanboy head cannon story line, so I am all for it. My favorite story line was always the Phoenix, and I wanted to badly to have a Phoenix vs Mister Sinister/Apocalypse fight and I got my wish well half of it at least.
My only real issue with the show, was the theme song. How dare they turn down the volume of the climactic chime. I know Wasserman didn't have it in there where he wrote it, but the executive that suggested it was spot on. and they turned it down to volume level 2.
Archer, yeah that's how it looks. Also Wolvie had that violence problem in the comics too. He would go a long time without cutting people. And my main bitch with this show is they are doing SO MUCH. Compressing decades of comics into a few Eps.
I was afraid we'd get another zombie franchise. Instead, we got the best thing Marvel has produced since Spider-man 2. My only complaint? They ditched the over-the-top signature sfx of the 90s series. At least use Gambit's signature sfx when he destroys the Wild Sentinel, maybe? :(
Finally! I thought I was the only person saying "Best since Spider-Man 2" instead of Endgame. Nothing in the entire MCU ties with Spider-Man 2, but this show sure does!
I have been saying since the death of Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes that where the MCU was doing everything right in live action, DC was the only one doing animation right. This is finally the place where Marvel turns the corner. The real question is - will Disney realize they have a winner and invest in Spider-Man, Avengers, and other Marvel properties on the colorful screen? We all saw those many cameos especially towards the finale. They could put together a "97verse" and no one would mind.
Easily one of the best new shows I've watched this year (with Fallout and Frieren making my top three so far). Absolutely loved this season, especially after spending the past few month binging the original animated series and many of the Fox movies to prep for D&W. My biggest hope for next year though is that they will be able to pace their narratives better. While individually, many episodes don't feel rushed, many of the ideas could have been expanded upon more with many singular episodes having enough content to warrant multiple parts. I doubt we will get more than 10 episodes for next season because streaming has made 6-10 episode seasons the norm but what wouldn't do for a 20+ episode season for this series. Sure it would mean less awesome anime inspired fight scenes, but with this level of writing, I would actually be okay with that. This show is peak X-Men, and I want to spend more time with these characters and their complicated world and even more complicated relationships.
I love how sincere this show is. Yes, it IS silly and weird. But, it’s a world where people can have punch beam eyes and look like giant blue, well, beasts, and fight against giant pink genocide machines.
So glad to see that somebody else picked up on the love confession from Morph to Wolverine! It's so obvious and yet there are several review channels framing it like "just a guy comforting their bestest buddy"... Hmhmm sure thing. :D
After Quantumania, I just kind of stopped looking forward to Marvel stuff. I still checked in on it, but I wasn't excited. I wasn't initially excited for this show. But damn did that first episode kick my slumbering mind's ass. I'd forgotten what it was like to genuinely look forward to a Marvel project. And it was to see the world reminded of why the X-Men matter. Despite being set in the 90's, the show's message and themes are more important now than they've ever been.
Would somebody please explain to me what Kaiser meant at the end of this video when he referenced Wanda saying "the thing"? What is the thing that he's talking about? I don't mind spoilers so please explain it to me in detail if possible.
Reminder: If you disagree with me, that's totally cool. This video was me sharing *my* perspective on the show, and I'm very aware of how subjective my opinions are. Because they're opinions.
But to be clear on one point: I think Matthew Waterson's performance as Magneto is fantastic. Really, everyone here is giving a great performance.
Edit: Oh also I have nothing against Ace of Base, I just felt like making some goofs.
The only thing I'm surprised you didn't mention was how many named characters (including on sp'cific one, neh?) died in The Attack
@@Sephiroth144 Yeah that shit was wild. But I wanted to keep the review a bit on the leaner side; still finding my footing with these.
@@KaiserNeko Of course; but that one hurt- still have my copy of X-Men 266, so literally a fan since the beginning...
I don't have any disagreements with you. I just think you should have been a lot more careful with how you started off hanging your hat on the director.
That... might backfire.
....fast and hard.
Unless you really do like it rough...
@@Linkatiko I tried to find out what the controversy was, but I couldn't FIND anything.
"Omega Threat, ELIMINATED" such a cold line
"Logan! He's here!"
"Who?! Apocalypse!?"
"THE BABY!"
"...OH CRAP"
I'm convinced he would have gone down the list of villains (all the way to even Toad) if Jean didn't elaborate haha
I love how genuine this show is. They take themselves completely seriously even when wearing goofy costumes and calling each other by their comic book names. Theres no self deprecating dialogue or jokes about the concept. Its refreshing after decades of whedonisms.
2024, the year the mutants saved Marvel. It's really like the 90's again:
It scares me that 20 years from now their will be people online, saying “God why can’t modern shows be non-political like X-men 97”
>The entire Madelyne Pryor storyline feels like a half-season's worth of material, burned through in 3 episodes.
To be fair....that's what Claremont said when he wrote that story in the comics back in the 80s. To quote him on this
"The original Madelyne storyline was that, at its simplest level, she was that one in a million shot that just happened to look like Jean Grey [a.k.a. the first Phoenix]! And the relationship was summed up by the moment when Scott says: "Are you Jean?" And she punches him! That was in Uncanny X-Men #174. Because her whole desire was to be deeply loved for herself not to be loved as the evocation of her boyfriend's dead romantic lover and sweetheart.
I mean, it's a classical theme. You can go back to a whole host of 1930s films, 1940s, Hitchcock films-but it all got invalidated by the resurrection of Jean Grey in X-Factor #1. The original plotline was that Scott marries Madelyne, they have their child, they go off to Alaska, he goes to work for his grandparents, he retires from the X-Men. He's a reserve member. He's available for emergencies. He comes back on special occasions, for special fights, but he has a life. He has grown up. He has grown out of the monastery; he is in the real world now. He has a child. He has maybe more than one child. It's a metaphor for us all. We all grow up. We all move on.
Scott was going to move on. Jean was dead get on with your life. And it was close to a happy ending. They lived happily ever after, and it was to create the impression that maybe if you came back in ten years, other X-Men would have grown up and out, too. Would Kitty stay with the team forever? Would Nightcrawler? Would any of them? Because that way we could evolve them into new directions, we could bring in new characters. There would be an ongoing sense of renewal, and growth and change in a positive sense.
Then, unfortunately, Jean was resurrected, Scott dumps his wife and kid and goes back to the old girlfriend. So it not only destroys Scott's character as a hero and as a decent human being it creates an untenable structural situation: what do we do with Madelyne and the kid? ... So ultimately the resolution was: turn her into the Goblin Queen and kill her off."
Madelyne deserved better.
@@DarkKnightBatman420 She does EVENTUALLY become kinda sorta a good person in the comics, after dying, getting resurrected, being on like 4 different villain teams, etc. The way she died in the comics was in the battle episode 3 had, Jean and Madelyne start fighting in Jean's mind as Madelyne attempts a "if I die I'm taking you with me" only to be utterly overpowered by the Phoenix being reborn inside Jean.
@@SeruraRenge11 Cool to hear, but I learned not to get too attached to any status quo of comics. Good things will get snatched up by new writers or editorial meddling and trampled over, and sometimes forgotten as time rolls on. I'm glad for the screen time though. That's appreciation in itself.
I totally loved a lot of the compressed storytelling but I really feel like Madelyne and Jean suffered the most from just Any% Speedrunning through their whole thing. I got whiplash when the Phoenix suddenly appeared at the end to save the day. It was the one moment that didn't really feel earned and felt way out of place.
@@felix_forrester Honestly just trying to explain Bastion was a trial and a half for the writers. They mention he's half-Nimrod but without really saying who or what Nimrod is (in his timeline he was basically the final, ultimate sentinel)
This show's dialogue, animation and story were absolutely insane, but what really hooked me in was Magneto. Matthew Waterson killed it in this role, and he had some of the best lines in the show.
"I am trying to be better. Please, do not make me let you down."
"I promised a boy a future free of fear, only to watch his frightened eyes be vaporized inside his tiny skull becaused he believed in me. In the dream you had me sell."
"Oh how I've waited to say these two words to you old friend. SHUT UP!"
Can't wait for season 2.
P.S. I also laughed to hard when Cyclops said: "What'd you'd expect? Black leather?"
The adversary had the best lines in the show
Yeah! Stupid Magneto, floating there, smoldering at me with those eyes. Begging- no, *daring* me to, uh, to...
Sorry, what were we talking about?
We're talking about Magneto's suit. It probably feels like he's wearing... Nothing at all. Nothing at all! NOTHING AT ALL!
...Stupid, Sexy Magneto.
All of Nightcrawler's fight scenes are top tier. Hell, hats off to everyone behind the STUNNING visuals. I've said this to many people but they are the most jaw dropping and amazing visuals I have seen in a very long time.
If you like cool teleportation powers in animated fights then may I recommend Mob Psycho 100?
One of the main antagonists in the second season of that show has teleportation as his main power and the animation team did a spectacular job with it.
@@MattManDX1 sounds really cool
One of the many standouts of X-Men '97: Cyclops. Absolutely love seeing him receive the attention and respect he deserves. Seriously, his live-action roles have been greatly underutilized. It's one of the X-Men films' greatest crimes. Hopefully, the MCU doesn't turn a blind eye to arguably the BEST mutant in the game.
They will
Totally agree. Gabit was my fave.. but so glad Cyclops is no longer a little bitch.
The parachute stunt...so bawler.
He always got that attention. Ya’ll just now coming to this conclusion because you never watched any of the animated episodes from back in the day. And you never read any comics. You’re just now realizing he’s fire. Us REAL fans always loved and appreciated him.
I loved seeing Nightcrawler with three swords.
I agree with you that the show burmed through storylines a but quickly, but quite honestly, i'm much happier to have this show burning through storylines a bit too fast compared to most shows these days that don't know how to fill their airtime, taking enough plot for like 3 episodes and stretching it out to 8 or 10.
One of the best lines in the show was Jubilee talking to Roberto: "Do you want your parents learning who you are on the 5 o' clock news?'"
Apparently, the Pulse nightclub shooting inspired this line.
Being a continuation of the 90s series was the best decision for X-men. That series was not subtle whatsoever, which gives leeway to just outright state the problems it wants to tackle. The fact that it treats its audience with nostalgia and as an audience that has aged since the original run helps make it amazing.
Hands down the best Marvel show since Daredevil.
I mean moon knight and loki is up there
@@dylanrinker6831 Those were really good, too.
Don't forget Punisher
@@dylanrinker6831 Really? I couldn't even get through _Moon Knight_ it was so weird. I still don't don't fully understand how things changed so much that the _disguises_ he would adopt for investigations mutated into being _actual Dissociative Identity Disorder_ with his previous disguise personae retconned into actually being "alters" that been appearing since childhood.
(I remember at one point one of the comics even saying that Marc supposedly developed DID because he had _used his disguise personae too often_ and it shattered his mind, or something? If __that_ was how things worked then _acting_ would be the most mentally dangerous profession in the world.)
I was a _big_ fan of _Moon Knight_ back in the '80s, and when I started picking up a newer issues to check out in the 2010s I was pretty baffled by a lot of things (but the Volume 7 from a few years ago was _really_ good after I got up to speed on things.) But it was honestly a lot like starting to read _Batman_ or _Detective Comics_ after several years away, only to discover that in the interim Batman and "Matches" Malone had _somehow_ become actual alternate personalities of Bruce Wayne.
@@AaronLitz you'll understand it when you finish the show
It’s fucking Marvelous. Astonishing. Uncanny, even.
The spiderman cameo was amazing!
morph turning into The Hulk was incredible!
@@saphcal I love all the Avengers cameos they assembled
It's got that X-Factor!
We’re eating pretty good when it comes to super hero animated shows this year. Invincible season 2, my adventures with Superman season 2, and X-men 97. The only outlier is unfortunately Megamind rules.
Don't forget Moon Girl.
This show has pure comicbook energy running in its veins, from the presentation and writing. The animation taking notes from the best parts of anime just shows what I've thought for years, that both mediums would fit each other in the best of ways.
Nah no way, the opening never ever loses its impact. Ever.
Agreed. One thing I disagreed with him. The opening was still great!
Hell yeah more content review! Makes me miss the talkshow podcast
I was about to say the samething. This would be perfect for Kaiser and Lanni to talk about for a couple hours
I just binge watched the first season and it was a helluva trip! When heard Sebastian Shaw, I genuinely thought it was Scott, until I realised it was Todd Haberkorn. I still can’t believe that they used THAT image on Logan; that was devastating!!
I think the Inferno storyline was handled really well here even if a bit fast
It’s so X-men to the point where it decides to sidestep answering the Magneto vs Xavier debate by introducing a third and much less nuanced party that everyone can beat up.
Definitely one of the best cartoons ever made; I love it even if I wished the ending was better
they can still tackle all that. neither of them are dead
@@Rikarious nah, I think they made it abundantly clear they can’t answer the question to a satisfactory degree.
The second they point out Magneto might actually have a better argument than Xavier (and not saying he does, just the story presents the possibility) he proceeds to try to end the entire world.
Magneto’s decision to end the world ends the debate. It’s no longer two sides that have equally valid points of view; Xavier’s side becomes right by default
@@Pierceson-up8fsthat’s just who magnet is tho, he’s not an anti hero, he’s a villain who’s motives make sense
@@leftistdegeneratejs I get it, but it becomes a problem when the story keeps arguing Magneto’s way might be the correct way…only for him to proceed to invalidate it by doing something insane.
It makes the return to the status quo more frustrating. The story points out Xavier might actually be wrong in his approach, but we just have to accept it as the default because the only other option (that might be more valid) can’t work because the guy presenting it is an insane supervillain. It leads to both sides feeling ineffective
I’m super happy x-men 97 did so good (haven’t watched it yet gotta re sub to Disney plus) but with the spidey cameo, a HUGE part of me wants to see him come back with his own show telling stories from the Spider-Man comics of the 90s and maybe onward. Also we need to here that guitar riff again
The best thing about this season was Captain America was finally able to find his shield.
Took the man WEEKs of searching for it.
Surly it had a tracking chip... Just incase...cos in my personal head cannon, it's not the first time someone threw it away.
I think the opening song is just as impactful as ever. And I still want a clean version of it from the final episode as they try to stop Asteroid M!
I agree, I noticed two times they played variations of the show's theme in the show itself. And I think both fit perfectly with the scene. I would love the Asteroid M falling of the theme
I love Wolverine. Ever since I was a little kid he was my favorite. And he works BEST as a support character. I love that he's not the main focus in this show.
I was skeptical about the old rogue VA returning at first, she just sounds way different from the 90s (understandably). But that delivery at the end of episode 5 brought me to tears. And after that I was 100% on board.
This show's only real flaw, to me, is that it's too fast; there's SO much in each episode. If they'd just added like 3-5 minutes to each episode there would have been more space to breath between big moments.
But goddamn, I LOVE this series so damn much. Every episode had me grinning like a kid on Saturday mornings.
Yeah, the Brazilian rich boy was a bit weak... that's it, that's my entire criticism of the show. It was... holy crap I love it. So much. SO GOOD! So well written! More of this Disney, please. I'll even PAY for Disney plus if you put out more content like this! It is absolutely some of the best, not only Xmen content, but content ever.
I'm really hoping for something. They don't fall into the repetition trap. They need to shine a few characters on, send them out and rotate in new blood. Character dynamics and interpersonal interactions need to happen and then bring back the exited characters and send out the rotation characters after a bit. Roberto needs to go off and get people cheering for his powerset. He clobbered Bastion at the end and it was a freaking cutaway scene. Ouch! If hindsight was 20/20 they could have had done something there.
Captain America was completely in character. We have 50 years of comic history where Cap is willing to *say* he supports mutants and subtly let some things slide, but never actually put himself out there and take a hard stand. At least until very recently. Cap's not perfect and mutantsbare where his flaws shine brightest.
This is the all time best on screen adaptation of the X-Men! And I hope that someday we get another X-men fighting game from Capcom🤞🤞!
I mean, with Power Rangers getting a beat'em up in the wake of Shredder's Revenge ... who knows? Maybe something on the way to coincide with season 2?
Okay, I just commented on the last GTFS video about wanting to hear thoughts on this show, what the fuck!?!?
We heard you!
@@FourStarBentoThey really did look into our minds..
My one disagreement is Cap. He never said he wouldn't help or tried to stop Rogue, he just asked for time to do it right and bring the Avengers with him. She immediately turned his response into a "you're with us or against us, and I've decided you're against us" moment.
The only other time he could have interfered is when Kelly launched the missiles, and Captain America isn't going to attack the president in the middle of the White House. (y'know, unless it's Richard Nixon leading a HYDRA splinter cell or Ronald Reagan mutated into a lizard monster.)
Have, have both those things happened? Those are some very specific examples.
@@shadowldrago Yes. Nixon* was leading a faction called The Secret Empire and committed suicide when Cap unmasked him.
Reagan was mutated into a snake man by The Viper, but eventually cured after a fight.
*OK, the POTUS leading The Secret Empire wasn't named and was kept offscreen once unmasked, but it lines up with Nixon's presidency.
@@wanderingstorytellerj7758 ... Comics are WILD, huh?
@@shadowldrago Oh, you sweet summer child...
But yeah, even crossovers with real celebrities get nuts, like Punisher getting pistol whipped by Eminem, Superman desperately trying to stop Pat Boone's song about him from becoming popular, or Spider-Man and the cast of Saturday Night Live fighting the Silver Samurai.
And yes, all of those are real too.
This show dances circles around all the live-action X-Men movies
I mean X-2 is still pretty damn good but yeah, it still had some of the core problems endemic to live action comic movies even though it was made before Iron Man created a formula all marvel movies must follow until the end of time.
Ace of Base was perfection. So is Magneto's costume and voice, period.
Scott the one episode of Genosha was enough emotional devastation, I could not handle it if we got to fall in love with it like a member of the family before it was ripped from our hearts
OH MY GOD, my comment request came true! I prayed for this and it HAPPENED!
I feel like this show is what a lot of folks who haven't actually gone back to it REMEMBER it being. It's powerful and deep and beautiful and I KINDA wish they'd given Grant Morrison a few more flowers since their "E For Extinction" storyline gave this entire series some of its best moments, but at the end of the day, I get it.
Definitely felt like a team show. Everyone got something to do, and it was great. Definitely wish it had at least 4 more episodes to expand on Madeleine Pryor, Genosha, and maybe give us a bit more Storm before her powers are gone.
Also, while I definitely don't mind he got limited focus this season, an episode focusing on Wolverine with Morph tagging along as he deals with something (probably related to his past, lets be real) would have been welcome.
I love kiser but i will fight him in the parking lot about magneto and his fucking amazing outfit.
I damn near spit out my coffee when you said, "Oops, All War Crimes!"
A smaller aspect of the show I enjoyed: these super powered characters feel super powerful. That's something I feel the MCU has lacked.
I re-watched the original series right before the new series started, and it took me a few episodes to get used to the "aged" voices of Wolverine and Rogue. As soon as I heard Rogue's voice, I knew we probably wouldn't be getting those high-pitched "Rogue screams" in this new series.
I am going to wildly disagree on the Matthew Waterson point. I thought he was absolutely perfect. We don't need to have an older person playing the role and we definitely don't need a younger person trying to "sound old". Magneto just needs to have maturity and weight with just enough pain coming out of the pores and Waterson does that in spades. I would marry that voice. Also he's very hot.
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I get it. His performance is fantastic, so it didn't really effect my enjoyment much. It just felt a little high for me.
@@KaiserNeko {secondary point}
I also disagree on Genosha. Giving it time is exactly what would STRIP the weight it had. People already wouldn't shut up about the potential of the Mutant Massacre coming along with endlessly talking about the idea of Cassandra Nova being the villain. Had it gotten multiple episodes before the attack, you already PREPARED for it to happen. LITERALLY NO ONE was prepared for how it happened or how soon and the hammer drop it very effective. Plus you can spend the time with people emotionally dealing with the reality of the situation instead of the fantasy of what might happen (as people normally expect it around 2-3 episodes before the finale).
While I want LONGER episodes, I don't necessarily want MORE. I just want more time in the episodes to do more and still tell the story the way they did. It was already effective, but I want the fleshing out to be contained in the episodes themselves instead of more episodes later.
@@ShinobiPhoenix-YT0 See, this one I'm a little more adamant about. Genosha-- within this narrative-- is only barely mentioned before we're suddenly there, experiencing it and what it means to mutant kind. A whole new government has been established, roles are shifting and being created. It feels like a grandiose change, but the weight of it is lessened when the impact finally hits because all we got was half an episode to learn about it.
I think it still works, mind you. ALL of it still works, to one degree or another. Just, with Genosha specifically, it genuinely believe it could've benefited from more time. Hell, like ya said, maybe if the episode was longer, and we'd gotten more time to experience it in a single episode, that would've made up the difference.
@@KaiserNeko This is still a continuation of the original story, in 97 we got enough of the tidbits in episodes 1 and 2 to grasp the outer world building without it hitting you over the head visually.
Especially E2 with Magneto of all people having ABSOLUTE confidence in rescuing the Morlocks and spending resources to relocate them to Genosha. That being a place Not-Yet-Max believes to be safe and happy vs how it was in the previous seasons, which Magneto brings up outright regarding how Charles and the X-Men didn't use their resources to SOCIALLY help other Mutants. The Morlocks in the same episode are watching Magneto's Trial on the ship out in the open safe instead of hiding. That alone speaks volumes to the changes in the world.
One of Beau's "homework" assignments was to go back to the episodes Sanctuary 1 and 2 which is literally Magneto going to Genosha to bring the mutant slaves to be home with him. The response being kill Magneto for taking "our property". This same Magneto is now confident enough in the changes to Genosha to support and fund relocation to it. That's enough worldbuilding for me.
It's subtle but impactful, just like the humans being comfortable using Sentinel tech on themselves as early as the first 10 minutes of Episode 1 (which was my first real clue the villain was Bastion along with the Sentinels having been added to the end of the Intro). They added enough clues throughout the episodes of many things outside of the contained episodes. We all expected to go to Genosha, but we also expected to be the vehicle leading to the finale, not Game of Thrones us in the middle. I think they did enough with the time they were forced to deal with, though getting no-break hour episodes instead of a max of 40 minutes would have been nice.
His UN speech is one of my favorite moments from the show, he is by far one of the best characters in the show (Granted, every character is the best but he definitely one of my favorites lol)
Great review Scott. Glad to hear you talk about something you actually LIKED for once.
What I would really like is either significantly extended episodes, or maybe a web-series that "fills" in the gaps; give us the time to grow with Genosha or slow down at some points. It was great, no doubt- but some points of inflection, moments to contemplate, would be good as well.
Did anyone else want Prof X and Magneto to kiss during that last episode?
Yes.
Ends with Wanda saying..... Oooooooooh, HECK YES!!!! I'm totally all aboard that crazy train!
It's almost like when you have a creator who actually gives a shit about the thing they're making and isn't just being asked to churn out garbage for a quick buck, they will make something good if given the time and money to do it.
14:13 thank you so much for Criticizing Captain America's potrayal in this show.
His potrayal in the MCU made him one of my favorite Superheroes and how hes just seen as a stooge for the Government feels so out of character when they had a an interesting idea with him having a Lead on Trask.
It feels more like a US Agent potrayal rather than Cap would really act,especially with heroes hes worked with before in this universe with Wolverine and Captain America having history in this universe
implying Magneto isn't the sexiest man alive here, okay
As someone who only ever watched Spiderman. What hooked me was that Tagline from Epuside one for the trailer, "To me, My Xmen." Which slapped. Every week was an anticipation. The Cameo's though are hit or miss, especially with Mary Jane not because Finally, FINALLY Spidey actually won, but because we NEED to now know how he won. His Cameo in Episode 8 as Spidey was perfect because it was that, a Cameo. Overall like you said, Can't wait for Season 2
I cannot get over how liberating the medium of animation is.
Allowing a marvel property to feel like something from the comics rather then something from the films being aped in the comics.
Seriously why did you have to remind me of episode 5. I just got over that heart breaking ending 😭
Although I agree with you hands down it was the best episode of series that had 10 amazing episodes.
I was so glad they gave both Storm and Cyclops the respect that the films never once gave them. That desert scene with her turning the sand to glass still gives me chills. Cyclops arc with him blaming himself for what he viewed as abandoning his son even though in reality he was saving his life was heartbreaking to watch but had a very satisfying ending.
Seriously this show is worth the Disney+ subscription alone.
Honestly pretty on point with your review, I do hope that season 2 has either more episodes than this season to world build a little bit or at the very least slow the pace down slightly so we can get invested in what's going on. Like the Genosha attack would've felt more impactful if we got to see it long enough as a paradise for mutants that it's truly a safe haven that people made their home. It felt more like a vacation destination for mutants rather than a home with the pacing.
We here baby
I was just hoping we'd get a video on X-Men 97 after you mentioned it. I honestly would have loved if this was way longer.
I was really hoping you guys would talk about _X-Men '97._ I actually wasn't even a fan of the original _X-Men_ cartoon back in the '90s, despite being a total 16 year-old comic book nerd when it premiered... something about the animation and the general overly-kiddified censorship of '90s Marvel cartoons just turned me off and I couldn't get past the 1st Season. But _this_ show takes everything that the original show _should_ have been and just _transcends_ it, even taking the original's art style that I couldn't stomach and _my God did they managed to make it work._ This show is actually better than the current comic books (but the X-Men completely abandoning Xavier's dream and becoming Immortal Fascist Mutant Supremacist Utopians is hard _not_ to surpass. The X-Men should be oppressed minorities who strive to fight for a world that hates and fears them, _not_ facing eternal genocide _all the damn time._ They ruined the X-Men by making everything so damn bleak and turning all of general humanity into horrible scumbags, when Claremont was always careful to show normal humans in any crowd standing up for mutants against people attacking them. Nowadays its' _only_ attackers, and the stories have lost a huge amount of nuance and gone downhill because of it.
X-Men '97 really does feel like a near-perfect reboot, in that it carries over a lot of the classic, iconic visuals and concepts, while modernizing it in a nuanced and constructive way. It heavily improves on the visuals, and ages up the content, written for a more general audience instead of just children. Which is GOOD, because adults are going to be the ones remembering this show, these designs, these versions of the characters. Not allowing the writing to reflect that audience would've been a terrible mistake.
It also allows for more mature and nuanced stories about bigotry, identity, revolutionary action. It doesn't have to shy away from the actual consequences of persecution, nor violence inherent in both a corrupt system, and defiance against said system.
I would've talk about that more in more in my review, but I didn't want to get too heavy. Still trying to find my footing with that.
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All I want for season 2 is one particular person to say one line.
"The dream is dead."
I can't believe they're set up to do it. I'm still getting over getting animated Second Coming Bastion.
2:05. Thank you. I've started to think i was crazy about the Archer reference. No one else would say anything about it. : ).
It's funny that I commented on the last GTFS review that I was hoping that you guys would review X-Men 97, and the next day, here it is. I know it's just a coincidence, but I still find it funny. Also, to be fair to Sunspot, he does get better as the season progressed.
i feel like i’m the only one who highly PREFERS the trial of magneto costume. the original is awesome and definitely more iconic, but man. those gloves, the big M, the no helmet look, i’m all about it
Ron Wasserman uploaded his own modern rendition of the theme on RUclips, its great. I replaced the newton brothers vwrsion with it on my custom VHS
Saying that Magneto's voice reminds you Diedrich Bader is SOOOOO True. I can't unhear it!
Magneto was always right
The MOJO episode began with serious, skin crawling, Akira-style body horror. Holy crap
X-Men 97 freaking kicks so much ass. Easily one of the best things marvel has ever put out.
Finished the show last night finally. Absolutely fantastic.
It hurts because my favorite characters have ALWAYS been Rogue, Gambit, and Nightcrawler.
Spoilers:
"Sugar... I... I can't feel you."
- Made me straight up ugly cry.
What a show.
I cannot wait for/hope they do an X-Men '98
afaik the show is confirmed for at least 2 more seasons.
What kaiser is up to
Talking with his mouth open. That's what
Chilling out probably
🙂🙂🙂 I am certain he is doing well.
I liked X-Cutioner's quote for ironically (or whatever word applies here) being applicable to himself and whoever is whining about different people existing. It's just begging to be used against bigots pretending they're victims.
PS It also works with so many annoying villains claiming the world is bad for not being perfect to them.
Much as I would love there to be more than one Jennifer Hale, I fear that the famous Femshep actress is singular, not plural. Apologies to the editor.
The show was superb, and I'm gonna geek out about the level of sakuga a show can have when it isn't an anime studio working under abysmal crunch and, more importantly, funded by big D+, for like the amount of time it takes for a second season.
Because I want MOAR.
X-men '97 gave me my fanboy head cannon story line, so I am all for it. My favorite story line was always the Phoenix, and I wanted to badly to have a Phoenix vs Mister Sinister/Apocalypse fight and I got my wish well half of it at least.
My only real issue with the show, was the theme song. How dare they turn down the volume of the climactic chime. I know Wasserman didn't have it in there where he wrote it, but the executive that suggested it was spot on. and they turned it down to volume level 2.
Archer, yeah that's how it looks. Also Wolvie had that violence problem in the comics too. He would go a long time without cutting people. And my main bitch with this show is they are doing SO MUCH. Compressing decades of comics into a few Eps.
I was afraid we'd get another zombie franchise. Instead, we got the best thing Marvel has produced since Spider-man 2.
My only complaint? They ditched the over-the-top signature sfx of the 90s series. At least use Gambit's signature sfx when he destroys the Wild Sentinel, maybe? :(
Finally!
I thought I was the only person saying "Best since Spider-Man 2" instead of Endgame.
Nothing in the entire MCU ties with Spider-Man 2, but this show sure does!
Easily the best X-Men adaptation ever, and arguably the best of Marvels Disney+ shows period
Haven’t watched the series yet, but the way the animation looks and moves, it kinda reminds me of Primal by Genndy Tartakovsky
What’s odd, is Dr. Doom is not credited by that name, just Latverian representative. The other known characters in that scene are named.
Episode 5, especially the latter half, was peak fiction imo.
The music, the action, the writing. It was amazing.
1:22 rider kick
I have been saying since the death of Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes that where the MCU was doing everything right in live action, DC was the only one doing animation right. This is finally the place where Marvel turns the corner. The real question is - will Disney realize they have a winner and invest in Spider-Man, Avengers, and other Marvel properties on the colorful screen? We all saw those many cameos especially towards the finale. They could put together a "97verse" and no one would mind.
Easily one of the best new shows I've watched this year (with Fallout and Frieren making my top three so far). Absolutely loved this season, especially after spending the past few month binging the original animated series and many of the Fox movies to prep for D&W. My biggest hope for next year though is that they will be able to pace their narratives better. While individually, many episodes don't feel rushed, many of the ideas could have been expanded upon more with many singular episodes having enough content to warrant multiple parts. I doubt we will get more than 10 episodes for next season because streaming has made 6-10 episode seasons the norm but what wouldn't do for a 20+ episode season for this series. Sure it would mean less awesome anime inspired fight scenes, but with this level of writing, I would actually be okay with that. This show is peak X-Men, and I want to spend more time with these characters and their complicated world and even more complicated relationships.
Oh a abridged x men would be very cool if possible
This show ripped my heart out and made gambit one of my favorite x men
I wish they had at least 2 more episodes to give something like Madelyne more time to breath but overall I love the show
More than anything, Cyclops needed a day in the limelight. The guy was the original Protag of the X-Men. Professor X was just there to do exposition.
I love how sincere this show is. Yes, it IS silly and weird. But, it’s a world where people can have punch beam eyes and look like giant blue, well, beasts, and fight against giant pink genocide machines.
So glad to see that somebody else picked up on the love confession from Morph to Wolverine!
It's so obvious and yet there are several review channels framing it like "just a guy comforting their bestest buddy"... Hmhmm sure thing. :D
oh my god, they were roommates!
Did they just ignore all the other hints we got over the season that Morph has the hots for Logan?
@@lanceturley7745 in my experience, cis straight people can be very oblivious to queer vibes
After Quantumania, I just kind of stopped looking forward to Marvel stuff. I still checked in on it, but I wasn't excited. I wasn't initially excited for this show. But damn did that first episode kick my slumbering mind's ass. I'd forgotten what it was like to genuinely look forward to a Marvel project. And it was to see the world reminded of why the X-Men matter. Despite being set in the 90's, the show's message and themes are more important now than they've ever been.
Bring DeMayo back...bc this show was damn near perfect
97 ending with House of M makes way too much sense. Heck it would be their way of making a new 90s animation universe.
Would somebody please explain to me what Kaiser meant at the end of this video when he referenced Wanda saying "the thing"? What is the thing that he's talking about? I don't mind spoilers so please explain it to me in detail if possible.
The music in the background I hear sounds like TALE OF US music label AFTERLIFE
To me, my SEX-MEN
And the Goblin Queen episode may not go full Junji Ito, but it does take a few pages from his book, figuratively not literally, LOL
This show was absolutely gold!
I've been waiting for this and i love it 😍
I disagree. by having want more from genosha, losing it just as fast made a bugger impact
Why do you assume magneto doesn’t wear lip gloss 🤔