Kingsong S18 VS Inmotion V11// Save me Suspension Jesus! | evX
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Kingsong S18 VS Inmotion V11 Head to head Review! A suspension electric unicycle is the latest tech in electric unicycles. People ask if these new EUC will save them from unexpected terrain. Well I tackle showcasing the suspension, the motor, speed, range and lights. Finally the evx head to head review of the Inmotion V11 and Kingsong s18 is here! Is there a winner in my opinion?
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You just confirmed my recent deposit for the V11 thank you for the great reviews 👊
Thank you man!!
The last scene phishing with your drone .... WOW! Keep creating such nice and useful content!
Awesome review! Thanks for the comparo & even more so, the honestly in letting it hang out there.
Since I already have a Tesla V2 1480ah with a genuine 50+mile range, I'm hopping on the S11 offroad allout assault wheel. I have to admit I'm a bit vain as the looks also has something to do with it as well. I sold my Ducati Monster S4R not too long ago & the S18 has that genealogy, at least looks wise.
Again great job! I shall be awaiting more of your reviews.
fantastic comparison (and great vid production)!
Well done! Looking forward to my S18 in about a week. I do a lot of pot-hole streets, grass, and trails. Gonna need to put a knobby on the S18.
I think it's interesting how both manufactures looked at the same problem so differently.
Thanks once again for your honest review EVX.
Anytime!
Excellent review thank you!
Thanks for the video, interesting points.
I just ordered a KS16X (my first wheel, I am excited like a kid!)
and the wheel purchases for 2020 are already over for me... But I had already understood that between the two (S18 and V11) I would have chosen the V11.
Can't wait to see the community consensus on which is best. I'm looking forward to improvements for the future v12 and gotway adoption.
Lets go!
what you think?
@@evXNYC nice comparison! Especially like the rebound and more technical adjustments of S18. Light of V11 tho...really nice comparison plus congrats on the Drone Fish Trophy!
Awesome catch with the drone! 😁
I thought i wanted an s18, but I'm starting to lean more and more towards v11. Thanks!!
This makes sense. Many Thanks
Very useful review, thanks Mike. Cannot wait to hear your thoughts on the Veteran when you finally get it :)
lol that drone finishing was awesome!
Inmotion is engineering excellence . I have had an V10F for about 2 years now and the thing has yet to develop a single rattle. Such good build quality. That KingSong looks kinda high maintenance. Good review.
Good luck with low speed cutoff
Love it!!
evX!!!Dope production😎💪🏻💪🏻👌🏻 top Notch👍🏻 well worth the waiting
your movies are in a class of their own
Greats thanks and regarts
Seems like the s18 is the more versatile wheel for combining trail, road and tricks but it’s flimsy case makes it too breakable.
Great video man
What a wonderful suspensions versus video. Thanks dude one of the better v11 vs s18 videos. I’m a big range and speed guy so as much as the s18 looks soooo sexy I think I’d have to go with the v11 if I was going with a suspension wheel. I guess my nik+ will has to do for while :)
Thanks!
Great review and cinematography. The V11 seems like the clear winner. Can’t wait to see what you think of the Gotway EX when it’s released. Great work 👍
But S18 is the winner how did you miss that?!😋
Great video. Seems like the better braking on the V11 is a major point. Stopping distance matters. perhaps you can do some specific tests? The headlights are vastly different too, if riding at night.
Very good view of the wheels
About the motor.. I've felt miracles with firmware updates on kingsong's wheels!
beautiful comparison and interesting test, congrats :)
Glad you liked it!
Great comparison video Micky, out of the 2 wheels, Id much rather have the one that holds together under stress, and that the V11. 😎👍👍
Thx
So cool fishing drone! Haven't seen that at Bass Pro Shop...yet! Also great EUC content.
I think they will carry that soon hahaha. Thanks for watching. Def share this around the Internet If you dig it.
Awesome ending with the whole drone fishing thing. Deciding between 4 euc's V11, V12, S19, and MSP. Which one would be the best 1st wheel?
Cool video dude! Make more!!
V11 still my favourite! Many thanks Mickey! 😎👍🙏
Thanks man! Your videos are helpful. I’ve ordered the S18... but REALLY like the V11 has some killer (ok dammit, better!) features as well!
-hoping Kingsong addresses a few of the issues for production-
Really like your music selections! Roll on....
Thanks for the kind words. Be sure to share my content around the Internet whenever you dig it or find it useful. Also if you ever have any questions I’m pretty responsive on my evx instagram. Thanks for watching.
Keep riding. Never stop!
How was is so far sir?
the drone fishing idea is crazy. And it's creative.
there are so many fail videos of this haha
I've only clicked onto EUC's in the last few weeks, as a 90's kid I can not describe how cool it is to see everyone whizzing around like Gizmoduck... "Blathering Blatherskite"
Yes!! We made it to the future!!
Nothing to add on suspension, at this point I agree with every thought you made, but at the end there? Okay, now _THAT's_ Fishing.
THX. My family was surprised that it worked. lol
Great video, thx buddy 👍👍👍
Thank you for watching!
Great video
Thanks
Dig the "Neistat" intro too 😄
You easily have some of the best production of any channel in this space. Always impressed by your vids. Did you move from NYC to FL?
One point I've heard from another RUclipsr that I didn't hear in your comparison:
The S18 *tire* is suspended, moving independently, whereas the V11 *chassis* is suspended, so more (unsprung?) weight is handled by the suspension. I'm sure this difference plus progressive shock accounts for the amazing ride.
Can't wait to try em, though I may end up with a Sherman next year :)
Thanks!! I did not move. Just visiting family during this really awful time. But yeah if you didn’t catch my full review on each of these wheels, i touch on this a bit. Be sure to check those videos out.
Thanks for watching! Keep riding. Never stop!
Ahahahaaaa drone fishing was a hoot.
Good review too, I'm thinking about the V11 (got a V8 and MSX 84v atm).
Also, side not, I'm mates with James Ashbolt in Melbourne, I was telling him about wheeling and watching you tube vids and he was like "oh my mate does one called evX", small world
Oh James!!!! Miss him so much. Such a great guy. Small world for sure!! Thanks for watching.
OMG- that easter egg tho!!! 😲😲😲
Great content as always Mickey. Thanks for the actual facts and that drone fishing is so epic.....LOL
You didn’t the Easter egg at the end? It’s one frame long. So look hard
@@evXNYC I'm missing it....???
Keep looking. It’s before the fish scene but after the night ride scene.
if put a coil in s18?
yee I am gonna go with v11
Can you utilize the peddle as a seat with back support? Or is that risking the wear and tear on the peddle and could break?
You can just get the seat that will soon be released. 🤠😎
Nice fish catch 👍
Hi evX i like the V11.....
so... which is the bmw and which is the ford f150? i think i'd like a v11 with the adjustable single shock suspension of the s18 :)
Mr eVX thanks for this comparison it was needed. I'm definitely buying one of these wheels, which one is still unclear 🤷🏽♂️
Haha hard to decide.
Nice fishing 🎣😃
Great review. We have the V11 and love it. Does the V11 have different riding programs? Beginner and pro or something like that?
Good comparison....
Bmw vs f-150
This video really helped on my decision for next unicycle..
Thanks~
Happy to help!
I loved that "save me suspension Jesus" easter egg ;-)
you found it?
The Easter egg is at the end of the video- hidden message.
Thanks, a great and well balanced comparison. I put my V11 deposit down a few days ago. I do a lot of inner city street riding and I think the V11 will suit me nicely. I sometimes do downtown food delivery on my KS-18XL. My knees and feet get pretty worn out after about 2 hours, I'm very curious to see how much the suspension helps with this.
Oh it’ll be night and day. Also you can put a seat on the v11. You’ll love it.
"Let's about talk SUSPENSION"
Your comment at almost the end about you think more companies will adopt the suspension style of the V11,
You are correct more probably will but those will be lower end or, city suit riders. There is nothing to vadvance , develop and get better with the pogo stick style suspension but on the other hand kingsong put out the first "true " suspension EUC and that will be twesked and tuned and re engineered just as our new model cars suspension gets better and better everytime you get avnew model year.
All that to say, since its inception how much redesign and upgrading has the pogo stick gone thru?
No comparison on the future of suspension. All quality manufacturer's will go with the un sprung weight!
You can go to the bank with this one!
IMHO
Gread video though, I enjoyed it and will watch your vids in the future.
This already tough call keeps on getting tougher! That stopping distance issue is one I need to consider as I ride the mean streets a lot. Power to stop safely is massively important. Thanks for doing that motor comparison. I just wish the V11 didn't look so... well, weird!
I agree completely. V11 built well great lights but strange looking. S18 looks striking great suspension but fragile 🤔
I looks like mike from monsters inc.
@@kingkorey6526 the outer shell is fragile, because... it’s meant to be. The main part of the S18 is super robust. All the plastics clip on and are easily, and cheaply replaced. If you crash the v11 it’s gonna be way more expensive and difficult to replace the plastics (kinda like a BMW is way more expensive and harder to fix vs a f-150, lol) so even though trails are only ~30% of my riding, I’m still getting the S18 because of how easily and cheaply replaceable everything is.
Still a high value video 👍
Drone fishing... F*ck me sideways - that's a great idea))) LOL. Nice video.
Awesome instrumental during the review. What's the name of that song?
Ground breaking fishing 😉method🎣🤣🤣🤣 Gret review as always, honest comparison. I stay with the S18 👌
Haha! It was very fun!
Thx man...finnaly one who cranks the wheel to the top, so we can see the limits of the motor!
PLZ get your hands on a Sherman Veteran!
I always try to crank any wheel i ride!
@@evXNYC looking forward to see u riding the sherman veteran!?
Now RUclips reminds of tv from the 80's. I almost bought a slapchop and a Grady for 29.95!
Amazing commercials:))
Wish to have one 😊
Great video Mickey! This one felt different than most of your videos. I'm not 100% sure why- perhaps it felt a little more informational? I liked it 👍 I was scared for your drone though- what was the plan if a huge fish took the line? 😄
There’s no huge fish there. I’ve fished that canal a lot. Only big fish are snakeheads and they don’t eat bread hanging in the water column. So i catch exactly what i expected: blue gill
I think v11 is my new wheel. One thing bothers me, how long until v11f? Great video, thanks
seems not possible to squeeze more batteries into the shell of V11, but let's see
What's your opinion about the newly discovered negative chamber on the V11? Will you be looking into it?
I def will be looking into this!
Looks like the Inmotion V11 has more advantages as a total package wheel for street riding. The Kingsong S18 seems to be better suited for off-road rides and lots of jumping.
too true.
Hey, It seems that the finish of the Kingsong is more fragile ?
Apart from the suspension the v11 looks to be a standard wheel with few moving parts. Imo that's most important for off road. Now i just need the veteran's roll bar.
@@NoNamesLeftFuk wouldn't that make it too heavy for off road use? By that I don't mean taking it on some trails and simple hops but rather doing stuff like what Chooch Tech did on his s18 (if you have his skills)
So let me throw a curveball in between off-road and normal street riding. How about (all-too-often potholed, rippled and pitted) city streets. Not as rough as real offroad, but for example streets in much of NYC or here in DC - thoughts on how these compare in that scenario?
Great video... I was wondering about the difference in pedal height, was that a factor?
Pedal height is higher than most traditional EUC. But between the two, s18 is a bit higher.
Question for you I weigh a lot I assume with gear I would stand at 280lbs that said being new to tech it seems I have to get a bigger wheel? Aka 18s etc.. would you agree or could I get away with a 16s?
I would skip the s18. There’s not enough battery. Also skip the 16s.
Which one's easier to disassemble for tire changes? Love the quality of your vids btw.
It’s a tie
Cool fishing with a Mavic! I love quadcopters but tend to focus on racing and freestyle quads because I like building them as much as flying them. I wonder what type of fish you could catch with an Inspire or a heavy duty Octocopter :)
I am just getting into EUCs from power electric scooters and the Onewheel. Your insights along with Kuji and Duf have made me really change my mind about the V11. I only have a few hours on an EUC so I am still just getting comfortable on my MTen3. I am comfortable enough though to realize I want to keep going with the EUC. I am already thinking about my next EUC and I am leaning toward the V11. I would be cruising around San Francisco in group rides a lot. BAESK8 has a very large group (40-60 people) riding most Saturdays so I can see the top of the line in the PEV world. I love my Dualtron for effortless 35-40MPH runs and hill-climbing power. I have also seen the S18 and Veteran Sherman handle the same terrain well. The Veteran just handles the San Francisco terrain (potholes and hills) like nothing else while no one was impressed with the S18 as they are coming from more powerful EUCs with much better range. Everyone said the S18 felt cheap. The S18 barely finished the 25 mile ride but it does have some crazy uphills to tackle.
yeah I'd love to attempt bass fishing with an inspire.
@@evXNYC Ha ve you moved to Florida is this a Vacation. The channel was so NYC based I am a bit surprised by the change in location.
I love the comparison. Based on what you state the V11 is the better overall wheel.
Based on what he said the S18 is the better overall wheel.
Based on what he said the V11 is the better overall wheel.
Based on what he said the S18 is the better overall wheel.
I will go with the S18. Less range than the v11 ok but better suspension and not so much weight
Either of these or a 100V MSP? Upgrading from V10F
100v MSP
@@evXNYC thanks for the quick reply! Deal done! Appreciate it!
I don't like the design of the V11 because the S18 looks a lot sexier to me. But if I have a choice, I'll take the V11, I like long-distance riding for sightseeing more than extreme cross-country riding. As they say, everyone has their own.
Like to see what it looks like carrying a Sherman upstairs using homemade shoulder straps. Can you also leave a euc in the sun turned off? `I see that S18 has a extended battery pack made for it. Like to see a seat for the V11 while pushing a wheel barrel up hill or two people moving something very long, both on euc's.
Thanks to Lee at eWheels I made the right choice with the V11
Good video by the way.
Cool vid. I’m 250 lbs. Never tried a EUC before, but thinking about jumping into it. Do I buy a KS or Inmotion V11? Or do I just go for it and learn on a Sherman so I don’t have to upgrade after a little while? Tnx
I never recc a Sherman as a first wheel. It’s a fairly advanced wheel that will be a pain in the ass to learn. I would wait until the spring when a bunch of new wheels come out. Then you can have more options.
@@evXNYC Thanks.
I wish you did this comparison with the production wheels since much has changed with both since your time with them!
me too man!
Great video. You need to hit up Duf and try out his production V11. Keel riding and stay safe.
Doug Yetman i know! I’m tying to make that happen. Haha we’ll see. Anyway thanks again.
Would love to see the Veteran Sherman reviewed by you 👍 I'm really considering it due to the top speed and range it offers
It’s looking unlikely as Marty wrecked the ewheels demo wheel. :(
Which of the two do you think are more resilient when crashing ? Nobody wants to spend few thousand dollars to crash at 40km+ and have the euc shatter into pieces :/
Honestly would depend on the crash, but as of now I’m gonna say s18.
Which would you recommend for a smaller rider? 5'-5", 140lbs
Both are close in size. Your use case and where you live and what terrain you ride is a better way to consider it.
No 5% discount using your code in the USA? You have the best review vids.
Try any of the codes on my latest videos. I have code with different vendors like Alien Rides. They should have a discount
@@evXNYC ok, thanks
wich one have the best range capacity ?
V11
A question: I'm considering buying a full face helmet. I see you have a TSG and a Leatt. What are the pros and cons of both? If you would buy only one, which one would it be?
Both a good. I think the Leatt is safer. And the reason i switched from TSG to it was i kept getting dogging inside the face mask. But the field of view on the TSG is unmatched. So there are trade offs.
evX thx for the great feedback.
Would you say (certainly in summer time) that the closed TSG might also be to hot? An therefor an open design like the Leatt is preferable?
04:53 Nice!
Time will tell whether the single or the dually works out in the end. Personally I still have nightmares from trying to figure out how to adjust those Fox shocks properly so having something simple is appealing. At the same time getting really good pop and performance on trails is also appealing. 🤷🏻♂️ Super curious how the Gotway EX is going to fair. Sounds like it has some air adjustments for the overall stiffness, but also some hydraulic dampening going on internally.
time has spoken... dual suspension reigns supreme in 2023
@@evXNYC Not really.. In volume maybe, but generally the S22 is still known for having the best suspension on the market. Especially since people can easily swap it out for higher performance shocks and coils. I think it's become a difference between a focus on trail riding and jumps vs general purpose suspension for street.
I’m always talking about in volume. My prediction came true, as all of mine have.
@@evXNYC lol, if you say so. The Hero, T4, Master, and the upcoming Begode Extreme are all single suspension and it's not like Begode hasn't sold a whole lot of those wheels. Never mind the S19. Whereas Inmotion and Veteran are sticking to dual. So I wouldn't just assume you're right on volume. My guess is that it's probably split pretty evenly.
This is a great comparison! and what? How did you catch a fish so freaking fast???
THX
The fish thought it caught a free drone.
its like the makers of this e-wheels decide to purposely skip on the side pads even though that for years now people insistingly keep on putting DIY side pads.
if it saves the money, knowing you still will buy the ewheel with out the pads, then I'm sure they leave that feature out.
how you compare v11 acceleration to ks16x? is it faster? A have to accelerate gently with my 16x when i ride over 40kmh, i am too scared of cut off:p, is v11 safe at 50kmh? cheers
I'm curious too about that
I tackled that in my full v11 review. You can find it on my channel.
I was also curious about this. He said it's almost as torquey as the 16x. Not quite as fast but "dead close". That's a sell for me, as I have a 16x. I love the S18's look but V11 just seems more reliable, safe, and it has an IP55 rating. That's huge. I remember riding my V8 in a big downpour. Nothing happened 👍
I think using motorcycles would be a better analogy, take any motorcycle manufacturer you like and the S18 would be the offroad / dirtbike and the V11 would be more of an adventure / tourer
e.g.
I like Kawasaki so from that perspective
S18 => KX/KLX
V11 => Versys
MrSpeedFrk I prefer the bmw GS1200 !!
The battery won't affect the top speed, lets say i swap the battery on the V11 for better and bigger one your will have more mAh per battery or more WH in all of them but you still got the same motor 2200w the motor cannot push more than that and the controller board will give the same amount of power to the motor !! So better battery mean only better range which is not a bad thing... In fact i did replace myself with a spot welder machine the original battery 21700 for 26800 in my Kingsong they have a little bigger diameter and 10mm more in length, it did not fit well i had to do some modification on the shell, differences the mAh is 5500-6800 instead of 3000-5000 and i did gain 30km (18.5 miles) but same speed.
One pays a STEEP premium for progressive suspension on two wheel vehicles. Wish the V11 had the kingsong suspension...
truth
Not really, one pays a steep distributor tax. There are 2 possible reasons why S18 cost as much as V11.
1. Kingsong is saying distributors to sell it for that much.
2. Official Distributors want to fill their pocket.
Now if you see a Chinese sellers listing. S18 is actually around 300 bucks cheaper. Its a very affordable wheel to be honest and thats why i do not mind the worse motor.
Now the v11 has something much closer to the s18.
Think might just wait for the next model(s) from KS, Inmotion, Gotway and Veteran. They'll be improved with the best ideas copied from each other. Also, with the feedback from riders about any problems that didn't come up in testing. What happens if a big fish drags the drone under the water?
That canal only has bait fish
Yep but that might be in 2 years... Are you gonna wait that long to ride a s18like EUC? I can't, ordering next week. And don't wait for gotway on that oen, they go with double sided suspension like v11, so... You now how it will behave
@@DIVA-MC-7 Have a KS18XL, it's great with huge range. Done over 7000 km, have not had one single problem at all, totally reliable. Haven't even had to change the tyre yet. Suspension would be good but the current S18 and V11 will be better in the next generation. Sherman range and power is fantastic but might be a bit overkill, and it's very heavy. Lithium Sulfur batteries if and when they become commercial, will be four times energy density. You are going to have great fun with an EUC, they are fantastic.
Hey... Is this available in the Philippines?
I think so, but you’d have to ask the manufacturers.
What was the set riding mode on the ks18…?
In pretty sure the noise you heard while breaking is the rubbing noise discovered by others also rather than the Motor..
Sadly it is not. It was the motor magnets grinding. I fixed that grinding sound on mine.
whats the name of those googles?
they are the standard LEATT MTB goggles. I may have a link in my video description...
@@evXNYC no its not there
F..k I pre-ordered the S18 as my first wheel just yesterday, now I don't know what to do lol.
Love the looks of the S18 specially in black...
oh man. dilemma!
The S18 is going to be a great, despite it not being a distance wheel.
You didn't make a wrong choice
Range and that breaking scene was something that made me re-consider, will get the wheel and if for whatever reason I end up not liking it I'll sell it.
Let's all say it, just one more time, in sweet, sweet unison: "Suhhhhhhhhhhh-Puhlllllllllllllllll." Hmmmmmm, hmmmmmmmm hmmm!!! I have gotta get that S18!
Great BMW vs F-150 analogy