Why Was Tumbleweed Abandoned? - Red Dead Redemption 2

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Комментарии • 2 тыс.

  • @Uhhok3
    @Uhhok3 5 лет назад +6172

    The way the sheriff constantly gives speeches to the people of tumbleweed makes him seem insane, but then you remember that Dutch was the same. Giving speeches to the gang.

    • @kimjongrussel7645
      @kimjongrussel7645 5 лет назад +388

      Dutch wasnt exactly right in the head to be fair, guy was delusional

    • @justinbayless8284
      @justinbayless8284 5 лет назад +164

      And he went insane. Thanks Micah you fuck!

    • @SmokeyGames420
      @SmokeyGames420 5 лет назад +429

      @@justinbayless8284 He went insane for a lot of reasons other than Micha. It was all the failed heists, Hosea's death, gang members leaving the gang or dying, the idea of moving to Tahiti was getting less and less probable, the Pinkertons breathing down his neck, etc.

    • @justinbayless8284
      @justinbayless8284 5 лет назад +91

      @@SmokeyGames420 I dont care. Point is #FuckMicah

    • @erikallen3804
      @erikallen3804 5 лет назад +45

      True. Half the time when you enter Tumbleweed, he’s out giving a speech or the Deputy is seen leaning on a wagon/stagecoach.

  • @MRJAYWILSON
    @MRJAYWILSON 5 лет назад +8471

    One and Only reason.
    Too much tumbling, not enough weed.

  • @EanFox7
    @EanFox7 5 лет назад +4971

    “The railroad went right past tumbleweed, and that was that.” - Marshall Johnson

    • @elisamarangon4346
      @elisamarangon4346 5 лет назад +222

      This.

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 5 лет назад +205

      Marshell knows something, maybe a dlc where we play as Marshell Johnson or help him out and find out what happened to Tumbleweed and the ongoings in New Austin, who knows really

    • @reddeaddude2187
      @reddeaddude2187 5 лет назад +23

      @Frank Castle Red Dead 4 hopefully, has lots of potential

    • @gussmann6580
      @gussmann6580 5 лет назад +28

      @Collin Caperton That's bs, it doesn't have to be "story related" Undead Nightmare wasn't story related.

    • @hanknorris5642
      @hanknorris5642 5 лет назад +6

      I hope he becomes a new mission giver in Armadillo at some point. Maybe RDO year 3.

  • @thnkng
    @thnkng 5 лет назад +1835

    I feel like Sheriff Freeman is a parallel to Dutch. Two leaders on opposite ends that start to get more and more aggressive - hell, they both gather everyone for speeches.

    • @ArtofLunatik
      @ArtofLunatik 4 года назад +10

      CrombulumGillette hes kind of like gene hackman in unforgiven

    • @SnowWolfFarms
      @SnowWolfFarms 4 года назад +11

      same person hmmm

    • @mrm2542
      @mrm2542 4 года назад +7

      @@ArtofLunatik omg that's crazy. I knew I recognized that crazy behavior but I didn't remember where from

    • @ignorantbleach4137
      @ignorantbleach4137 4 года назад +5

      But Dutch always has a plan

    • @joaqu7002
      @joaqu7002 8 месяцев назад

      They also go crazy on completely opposite areas of the map

  • @Victor-Baxter
    @Victor-Baxter 5 лет назад +1014

    I like how he jumps to the conclusion, that scalp hunter is a reference to a dc hero, and not the actual scalp hunters back in the 1700’s; the bounty hunters

    • @tracymizelle5324
      @tracymizelle5324 5 лет назад +19

      SomeRandomGuy OnTheInternet not everyone knows that piece of terminology pal.

    • @tracymizelle5324
      @tracymizelle5324 5 лет назад +28

      John Stonik wow really hurt my feelings with that one I wonder how I will ever recover.

    • @asipamanu
      @asipamanu 4 года назад +59

      Didn't Black Bell refer to the bounty hunters as scalp hunters in the Jim Boy side mission? Maybe that's what they mean seeing as how all the outlaws would absolutely hate bounty hunters and using that term as an insult.

    • @HovektheArtist
      @HovektheArtist 4 года назад +12

      @@asipamanu well at poimts of time in the west if a bounty was wanted dead or alive and it would be trouble to bring a whole body back they would take the head, or just the scalp as well as a personal effect to prove identity for bounty

    • @shadowconspiracy1611
      @shadowconspiracy1611 4 года назад +4

      Scalp hunter is slang for bounty hunter i think

  • @SlyJordie
    @SlyJordie 5 лет назад +1910

    He's like the law abiding version of Chapter 6's Dutch Van Der Linde. Instead of "The Plan", it's "The Law"

    • @TripleXMango
      @TripleXMango 5 лет назад +124

      It's OnlyNobody “One more LAW, and then we’re outta here, all we need is a little OBEDIENCE”

    • @ivorytickler8811
      @ivorytickler8811 5 лет назад +48

      @@TripleXMango And no *InSiStiNg*

    • @syverence8686
      @syverence8686 5 лет назад +51

      I had a GODDAMN LAW!!

    • @ramonaselas1053
      @ramonaselas1053 5 лет назад +18

      have some godamn law arthur

    • @acewilliams7917
      @acewilliams7917 5 лет назад +10

      He's wild west judge dread.

  • @SJB70
    @SJB70 5 лет назад +3529

    Sheriff Freeman always reminds me of Bass Reeves, the legendary black U.S. Marshall of the Wild West. He served over 30 years, arrested 3,000 criminals/fugitives and killed 14 outlaws in self-defense, so no question he was ruthless like Sheriff Freeman. They even have the same absurdly large mustache.

    • @voodoo2006
      @voodoo2006 5 лет назад +240

      Who knows, R* maybe created that character as an easter egg/ reference.

    • @lifewithaiden772
      @lifewithaiden772 5 лет назад +219

      He was probably based off of him

    • @dannybrooks1847
      @dannybrooks1847 5 лет назад +46

      @Michael Sperling yep 100% correct

    • @DisapprovingPigeon
      @DisapprovingPigeon 5 лет назад +29

      I don't think he performed public executions in that way though... did he?

    • @guardsmanlars6797
      @guardsmanlars6797 5 лет назад +8

      Morgan Freeman

  • @The_StrangeMan
    @The_StrangeMan 5 лет назад +5579

    Ahhh, I love these towns...

    • @berkan7662
      @berkan7662 5 лет назад +175

      Hi there, "strange man"

    • @The_StrangeMan
      @The_StrangeMan 5 лет назад +137

      @@berkan7662 o hello there cowpoke

    • @usmanazhar9170
      @usmanazhar9170 5 лет назад +89

      @@The_StrangeMan What do you think of Beecher's Hope?

    • @The_StrangeMan
      @The_StrangeMan 5 лет назад +287

      @@usmanazhar9170 it's a fine place, especially that one spot facing the barn and house

    • @giggijordan9480
      @giggijordan9480 5 лет назад +50

      @@The_StrangeMan black lung

  • @Doodlebobo7289
    @Doodlebobo7289 5 лет назад +681

    I think since there's no railroad near tumbleweed and since there's no ranches nearby, the inhabitants had to steal from each other. As a result the sheriff killed them all with the best intentions.

    • @tyronjasonhuff
      @tyronjasonhuff 3 года назад +67

      Town ate itself alive. Nothing left but crime and eventual crime. The sheriff most likely died fighting as well.

    • @therealbeeve
      @therealbeeve 3 года назад +12

      And their best supply were wagons from Armadillo, the ranch and possibly even blackwater

    • @ul.biggit217
      @ul.biggit217 3 года назад +9

      The railroad is literally down the hill from the mansion😂

    • @therealbeeve
      @therealbeeve 3 года назад +13

      @@ul.biggit217 no station though

    • @ntfoperative9432
      @ntfoperative9432 2 года назад +25

      @@ul.biggit217 there's no station though, so the town is basically ignored by trains

  • @shrimp3rjr413
    @shrimp3rjr413 5 лет назад +4150

    Mr Boss FTW: Takes 5 minutes to do an intro
    Fizhy: Starts talking about the main focus point 45 seconds in.
    Be more like Fizhy

    • @gaydylanuwu8314
      @gaydylanuwu8314 5 лет назад +29

      Agreed but both vids long but that make em good and not rushed

    • @alandowilson7064
      @alandowilson7064 5 лет назад +171

      I swear to god all mr boss's vids start off with something completely unrelated to the vid 😒

    • @dixiefish0173
      @dixiefish0173 5 лет назад +107

      Alando Wilson mrdumbassFTLoss is terrible at making youtube videos & runs his mouth about something unrelated in every video...

    • @glynkeegan306
      @glynkeegan306 5 лет назад +11

      @@dixiefish0173 I'm dead lol.
      And really late lmao

    • @thejadedeagle6729
      @thejadedeagle6729 5 лет назад +98

      Mr Boss FTW has got to be one of the most click- baity wastes of time on RUclips. I was so happy when Fizhy started doing RDR 2 lore videos cause it meant I never had to touch Mr Boss's channel again.

  • @elderrusty541
    @elderrusty541 5 лет назад +3517

    They should have got Samuel L. Jackson to voice Sheriff Freeman, that’s be badass

    • @jacksonbear1
      @jacksonbear1 5 лет назад +574

      He was Officer Tenpenny in GTA San Andreas. That would create a crazy conspiracy theory on the Sheriff being his ancestor.

    • @ye7170
      @ye7170 5 лет назад +113

      *_Tenpenny: 900_*

    • @ProMrLecoq01
      @ProMrLecoq01 5 лет назад +22

      Keith Williams2 BAM BAM

    • @hanknorris5642
      @hanknorris5642 5 лет назад +94

      Rockstar no longer hires top actors for voice work. They apparently had issues with Burt Reynolds when they made GTA 3. Plus they are more expensive.

    • @ProMrLecoq01
      @ProMrLecoq01 5 лет назад +16

      Hank Norris that really sucks, why should they get trouble from that

  • @jackkurtisproductions4131
    @jackkurtisproductions4131 5 лет назад +743

    It was certainly better off than Armadillo in 1907...

    • @rokairu0-216
      @rokairu0-216 5 лет назад +82

      Armadillo did have the plague atleast since 1899, we know it from RDO and The Man In Black`s shack in Leymone.

    • @Person-bj2es
      @Person-bj2es 5 лет назад +55

      @@rokairu0-216 1899 was scarlett fever.

    • @SabotSender
      @SabotSender 5 лет назад +44

      Then Armadillo in 1911 said "Fuck you, Tumbleweed."

    • @erikallen3804
      @erikallen3804 5 лет назад +37

      @@rokairu0-216 1898 and 1899 were the years of Scarlett Fever. 1907 is Cholera. However, Armadillo is completely fine in 1911/1914.

    • @sadieadler3065
      @sadieadler3065 4 года назад +8

      CHOLERA
      Wait didn’t Cholera kill Kieran’s parents. Did they live in Armadillo? MORE MYSTERIESSSSSSS

  • @xXSilentAgent47Xx
    @xXSilentAgent47Xx 5 лет назад +456

    Why was it abandoned? Because of griefers and made pelt prices completely pointless.

  • @Dmcs1917
    @Dmcs1917 4 года назад +116

    Scalp hunter was a derogatory term for a bounty hunter in those days, and some bounty hunters are still called “scalp hunters” due to the brutality some of them have. Hope this clears things up

    • @sirfanatical8763
      @sirfanatical8763 Год назад +3

      thanks

    • @stuglife5514
      @stuglife5514 Год назад +7

      To elaborate, scalp Hunter as a term for bounty hunters in this area stems from the scalp hunters of the 1850s era, who were often paid bounties for each native scalp they could bring in. The Mexican government paid handsomely for this line of work.

    • @MariusCeausu-q6l
      @MariusCeausu-q6l Месяц назад

      Is like the same business the glanton gang from blood merdian were involved in right?​@@stuglife5514

  • @waaazzzzuuuuppppp177
    @waaazzzzuuuuppppp177 5 лет назад +377

    There was a lumbago outbreak that wiped out Tumbleweed.

    • @41Brother2
      @41Brother2 4 года назад +35

      It was very serious

    • @jared305
      @jared305 4 года назад +32

      It was terminal.

    • @mrquack4903
      @mrquack4903 4 года назад +24

      It was slow and painfull

    • @weebalo_
      @weebalo_ 4 года назад +6

      I GOT LUMBAGO

    • @DanteDMCSparda
      @DanteDMCSparda 3 года назад +10

      Im very sick john...
      L U M B A G O

  • @kit664
    @kit664 5 лет назад +591

    watching all those clips you inserted of the sheriff monologuing like that actually reminded me of Dutch's in-camp behavior throughout rdr2. specifically the superiority complex-esque monologuing to no one in particular, the tone/inflection used with certain words, the seemingly-unflinching-yet-ever-evolving-on-a-passing-whim morals, etc.....idk just kind of got the vibe from it that sociopaths stay sociopaths, even if they both seem like initially polar opposites in every way--and there are A LOT of sociopaths in the world of rdr, lol

    • @trollege9488
      @trollege9488 3 года назад

      Dutch didn't really directly kill people
      He wait for a perfect time to do it like how he left john to hang or leaving arthur to be killed by the army

    • @doomstan
      @doomstan 3 года назад

      He's Dutch, but his vocabulary is "tHe LaW!"

  • @cerealauthor7338
    @cerealauthor7338 5 лет назад +960

    I still admire how many videos you can make yet still avoid milking Red dead like other youtubers cough, mrbossftw, cough.

    • @MrJabez89
      @MrJabez89 5 лет назад +94

      I blocked that channel and a few others. They are terrible.

    • @cerealauthor7338
      @cerealauthor7338 5 лет назад +49

      I'm surprised they have the amount of subs that they do

    • @Fizhy
      @Fizhy  5 лет назад +179

      I just like exploring the game's mysteries.

    • @cerealauthor7338
      @cerealauthor7338 5 лет назад +41

      And I think I speak for everyone when I say I am glad you explore every interesting part of Red dead

    • @assaholicbitch9360
      @assaholicbitch9360 5 лет назад +6

      Cereal Author733 as are many, such as I.

  • @MrQw34ful
    @MrQw34ful 5 лет назад +232

    Sheriff : Dont worry deputy, I got a plan. We just need some justice.

  • @thesmilingdog3629
    @thesmilingdog3629 5 лет назад +567

    Sheriff: hope you're having a law abiding day?
    John: it's night time mate.

  • @carpetfarmer
    @carpetfarmer 5 лет назад +274

    Because everytime you have to go there online it's an unofficial pvp bloodbath in the streets.

    • @Camaroni1000
      @Camaroni1000 5 лет назад +52

      Anytime you go anywhere in online it’s an unofficial pvp bloodbath

    • @bendaonfire0078
      @bendaonfire0078 5 лет назад +12

      Really? I thought saint denis is.. Although i was a bit confused why in 20 people server i only see two or three

    • @laurenz2426
      @laurenz2426 5 лет назад +7

      @Lethal Equalizer I just stay around the Grizzlies all the time. No player ever goes there

    • @laurenz2426
      @laurenz2426 5 лет назад +13

      @Lethal Equalizer The Area Grizzlies(mountains) not Grizzlies themselves but yeah up there is nice can farm some pretty good hide. Only thing i dont like about it is it never snows and rains even at -18 which should not be possible.

    • @laurenz2426
      @laurenz2426 5 лет назад

      @Lethal Equalizer Indeed

  • @romanbowler8754
    @romanbowler8754 5 лет назад +1600

    It was abandoned because of *Gavin* sadly

  • @comradesmile
    @comradesmile 5 лет назад +389

    Challenge: Take a shot of whiskey every time the word “law” is mentioned
    Also: Yeee’law

    • @pearslair4035
      @pearslair4035 5 лет назад +5

      I am now getting my stomach pumped thanks

    • @shaunpreston3654
      @shaunpreston3654 4 года назад

      Yee'law was written after the challenge

  • @JohnnyROCK65
    @JohnnyROCK65 2 года назад +37

    I just imagine living in Tumbleweed, going outside to get some water, and just immediately getting berated on a daily basis about the law. I have to imagine that while the citizens of Tumbleweed respect his order, they all make fun of him behind his back.

  • @ToadySP
    @ToadySP 4 года назад +62

    I remember playing Red Dead Redemption 1 and exploring tumbleweed for hours looking for hidden secrets: trying to find ghosts, trying to find answers. I read the newspapers about the town being haunted, saw the bloody message on the wall of the interior of the church. Examined the emaciated dark horse that spawns there on rare occasion. Watched as thousands of bats flew from the manor in the morning. It's truly a mysterious and chilling location, being in Tumbleweed always felt like I was in someplace iconic and special.
    It's been 10 years and I still believe Tumbleweed was abandoned because there is genuinely paranormal activity in Tumbleweed. Tumbleweed is truly haunted, it is either that, or that some horrible creature drove them all away. I will always have a genuine interest in Tumbleweed.

    • @DickiMonster
      @DickiMonster 4 года назад +4

      ToadySP you can hear some weird stuff in the basement of the manor

  • @vanargrand3199
    @vanargrand3199 5 лет назад +114

    "I want authority." -The Sheriff _implying_ he wants authority.

  • @OriginalHimLaden
    @OriginalHimLaden 5 лет назад +1321

    Sheriff Freeman made Tumbleweed great again..

    • @Jonas-xl4wg
      @Jonas-xl4wg 5 лет назад +32

      So he’s the Trump of Tumbleweed?

    • @giggijordan9480
      @giggijordan9480 5 лет назад +77

      @@Jonas-xl4wg no he is the tumble of tumbleweed

    • @mr.funnyman9765
      @mr.funnyman9765 5 лет назад +51

      @@Jonas-xl4wg No, he is the law

    • @georgehatzo9755
      @georgehatzo9755 5 лет назад +30

      @@Jonas-xl4wg Trumpleweed confirmed

    • @Ozzymandias493
      @Ozzymandias493 5 лет назад +6

      So thats why trumpleweed was abandoned 🤔

  • @MrFusion
    @MrFusion 5 лет назад +184

    Anyone else not realize that there are bounty hunting missions in Tumbleweed? I didn't realize that there were some missions until my third playthrough.

    • @theiconicprodigy1736
      @theiconicprodigy1736 5 лет назад +11

      Mr. Fusion didn’t realize there were bounty hunting missions at all until my second play through wasn’t paying attention I guess

    • @zombiesquirrelkiller
      @zombiesquirrelkiller 5 лет назад +10

      For so long I thought there was literally only the first one. Then about halfway through I found more, was like I struck gold.

    • @theiconicprodigy1736
      @theiconicprodigy1736 5 лет назад +6

      zombiesquirrelkiller when I saw they had cutscenes for the first mission I was in awe

    • @leev9406
      @leev9406 5 лет назад +3

      yeah there are a few. mostly about del lobos

    • @Hela03
      @Hela03 5 лет назад

      The first one glitched for me and they got stuck inside with the door so I pushed it open sheriff stumbled and they turned hostile so I never got to really see this storyline xD

  • @jordanrepgamez413
    @jordanrepgamez413 5 лет назад +277

    These deserted towns are fun to mess with NPCs

    • @feralchangeling97
      @feralchangeling97 5 лет назад +20

      Armadillo, Van Horn, MacFarlane's Ranch, and Thieves' Landing.

    • @feralchangeling97
      @feralchangeling97 5 лет назад +9

      @@jad3nn_537 but they tend to fight back without the law getting involved.

    • @jad3nn_537
      @jad3nn_537 5 лет назад +2

      Feral Changeling because in the rdr2 story they didn’t have no law at the time

    • @feralchangeling97
      @feralchangeling97 5 лет назад +6

      @@jad3nn_537 and that's what makes it so fun.

    • @ChloeGPotter
      @ChloeGPotter 5 лет назад +17

      I always rob Herbert Moon in armadillo, it's almost as satisfying as when he got bitten in undead nightmare 😂

  • @trevormcguffee3922
    @trevormcguffee3922 3 года назад +42

    It was all about location. Tumbleweed's location may have offered great security, but left it isolated from everyone else. (IE: No railroads. )
    Same with Sheriff Freeman extremely harsh and authoritarian stance on law and order just drove more and more people away.
    In another world, Tumbleweed could have survived, but simply became one of countless ghost towns of a forgotten and bygone time instead.

  • @CherryJoe5
    @CherryJoe5 5 лет назад +134

    Dutch: I have a plan
    Freeman: The Law

  • @settingsun8403
    @settingsun8403 5 лет назад +188

    here's my theory;
    after the little amount of crime around Tumbleweed after bounty hunters assisted the Lawmen & Freeman
    (not necessarily the player) the people had rebelled against Freeman for being so controlling. A big gun fight ensued
    and with the Town residents outnumbering the Lawman, as well as a few Lawman you betrayed Freeman, the Town was left in ruin. Freeman and those who remained loyal held up in the House on the hill but were quickly overwhelmed
    after they were dealt with, the Townsfolk decided to leave Tumbleweed and move to Armadillo and help it get back on it's feet
    taking what resources were left after the skirmish
    Then about a week or two later the last remaining Del Lobo from Fort Mercer took Tumbleweed but were unable to restore it back to how Freeman kept it
    thus passing on the "Curse" from Armadillo to Tumbleweed

    • @marijnvanbeek4730
      @marijnvanbeek4730 5 лет назад +4

      Robert Phillips exactly

    • @yunghobo4849
      @yunghobo4849 5 лет назад

      Setting Sun no when they built the railroad they went past tumbleweed and put it in armadillo

    • @kavinskysmith4094
      @kavinskysmith4094 5 лет назад +3

      now that's what I call a proper ending, pitty they dont have the balls to put that in the game, might actually make it feel like 1899 instead of 2019

    • @zwgrafoug1351
      @zwgrafoug1351 4 года назад +1

      there is onother theory like after you catched those gang mempers the other Del Lobos wanded revenge against the Sherrif and the tumbleweed,and they just raid the town and killed the sherrif and all of them..

    • @Joel_Lifts
      @Joel_Lifts 4 года назад +4

      I would prefer this one but we all know that it was because of the lack of supplies and manpower coming from trains which led to abondonment but I like ur theory a lot more and would prefer this over the real one

  • @geraltofbolivia9428
    @geraltofbolivia9428 2 года назад +19

    If we’re being realistic, the reason it was abandoned was because of the train not going through it and also the fact that it’s way out in the middle of the desert. Armadillo, has the luxury of being somewhat close to blackwater, and McFarlands Ranch. And also the train lol.

  • @sportsnstuff5557
    @sportsnstuff5557 3 года назад +31

    I actually read something in a newspaper (might've been a new hanover paper) early in the story mode about a yellow fever outbreak in tumbleweed, which made more people avoid it. I think that's partially why the railroad and more people avoided the town

    • @pavan923
      @pavan923 Год назад

      Was that Tumbleweed or Armadillo

  • @xurscaped8840
    @xurscaped8840 5 лет назад +67

    Oh hey mister a Sheriff, what’s going on toda-
    L A W

  • @King-ts4es
    @King-ts4es 4 года назад +18

    The sheriff is like a reverse Dutch. He obsessed with order, civilization, and the law. Not to mention the similarities he and Dutch share: preaching, having a good shot, and having authority. Dutch's gangs fell and so did tumbleweed.

  • @nickklok4955
    @nickklok4955 5 лет назад +149

    Did this guy get paid for every time he said 'Law'?

    • @nickklok4955
      @nickklok4955 5 лет назад +2

      @Android 2990 Version 2.0 That's $ 10.000 for you there sir!

    • @nickklok4955
      @nickklok4955 5 лет назад +1

      @Android 2990 Version 2.0 obey THE LAWWWWWWWWWW

    • @reckergamer1879
      @reckergamer1879 5 лет назад +1

      Wow
      BREAKIN ZE LAWWWWW

  • @thomasjones4893
    @thomasjones4893 3 года назад +22

    If they ever make a Red Dead movie the sheriff should absolutely be played by Samuel L Jackson

    • @AK907LSD25
      @AK907LSD25 3 года назад

      Hes an old man, who knows how much longer we'll have him same with Morgan Freeman. That's right Morgan Freeman will die

    • @samreddig8819
      @samreddig8819 3 года назад +1

      @@AK907LSD25 no he shall live forever

    • @AK907LSD25
      @AK907LSD25 3 года назад

      @@samreddig8819 every morning you will wake and immediately grab your phone in fear to read he has passed

  • @judostar11
    @judostar11 3 года назад +8

    7:50 "Esteban Cortez, I knew your brother." While it's a pretty obvious nod to "A Quick Favor for an Old Friend" where you're hunting Ramon down with Sadie, I liked that small little dialogue from John a lot.
    Anyway, yeah, it definitely seems like a combination of Sheriff Freeman, the train tracks just not going to Tumbleweed, and the cholera outbreak that's heavily implied to have been caused by the Strange Man. I also think that, in theory, the Del Lobos gang probably went back there to get revenge on Sheriff Freeman and kill any residents that deciding against leaving when the town started to decline.

  • @macd1996
    @macd1996 4 года назад +70

    Why was tumbleweed abandoned?
    **vivid flashbacks to shooting up the town multiple times**
    No reason, _none at all_

  • @prodeathazine1463
    @prodeathazine1463 5 лет назад +37

    I like Sheriff Freeman, because as someone from Oklahoma, he's supposed to be a reference to Bass Reeves.

  • @norteporvida4142
    @norteporvida4142 5 лет назад +77

    It was abandoned due to the rise of train tracks rdr1 said that in a cutseen

    • @CommanderTK9091
      @CommanderTK9091 5 лет назад +1

      Norte Por Vida however I’m sure there’s a reason why train tracks left out the town as a destination.

    • @omar90s91
      @omar90s91 4 года назад

      @@CommanderTK9091 Probably because it wasn't enough people?

    • @fungustheturd4004
      @fungustheturd4004 4 года назад +4

      Omar 90s I believe it was ignored by the train tracks because of it’s location. Its on the top of a plateau and it is surrounded by rock structures, the work to build train tracks in there wasn’t worth the risk

  • @gaminggeneral1324
    @gaminggeneral1324 5 лет назад +257

    Sheriff freeman = gordon freeman = half life 3 confirmed

  • @fijonnen7743
    @fijonnen7743 5 лет назад +359

    All the OG red dead redemption boys already know this

    • @AWormsPurpose
      @AWormsPurpose 5 лет назад +13

      Finn Jones Did you even watch the video before commenting

    • @fijonnen7743
      @fijonnen7743 5 лет назад +35

      @@AWormsPurpose yeah I did we have known this for years now, it was on the origonal wiki I was just stating the OG boys already knew about the track cutting tumbleweed out of the picture, none of that sheriff shit or curses

    • @AWormsPurpose
      @AWormsPurpose 5 лет назад +1

      Finn Jones well why comment on a video going against the wiki?

    • @fijonnen7743
      @fijonnen7743 5 лет назад +15

      @@AWormsPurpose The video was just stretched out with b.s facts to get to 10 minutes. Just stating the origonal guys already knew.

    • @AWormsPurpose
      @AWormsPurpose 5 лет назад +9

      Finn Jones well I can’t tell how serious it is based on just text if anything it has an annoying gate keeping tone to it

  • @kingcrab1155
    @kingcrab1155 2 года назад +13

    I looked into tumbleweed a lot when I was younger. I heard screams and wails in the big manor on top the hill. Other than that though not too much happened. I think the church had some of the same. Never any ghosts or figures/faces of any sort

  • @RKNGL
    @RKNGL Год назад +2

    8:05 He says "my men" but the in-game subtitles say "my brothers". It was probably changed to the former later in development to show the del lobos as more inpersonal toward their members like the O'Drisscols.

  • @sensi7476
    @sensi7476 5 лет назад +80

    Back on the RDR2 vids, I like it!

  • @emiliorico5632
    @emiliorico5632 5 лет назад +84

    Scalp hunter is a turn for bounty hunter not anything savage

    • @vestty5802
      @vestty5802 5 лет назад

      Emilio Rico not really native Americans were the ones doing the most scalping along with white settlers on the Wild West throughout American history

    • @burgamushun
      @burgamushun 5 лет назад +5

      @@vestty5802 Whites scalped a lot of people too. Especially when they had scalp bounties, in Colorado you could get like $25 for a scalp with the ears on. Which is why it's synonymous with bounty hunter - because they are bounty hunters technically.

    • @Hustlate
      @Hustlate 5 лет назад +1

      @@vestty5802 and previously in other mission people refers bounty hunters as scalp hunters.

    • @burgamushun
      @burgamushun 5 лет назад

      @Steven Fontaine I don't understand what you're trying to say.

    • @jacobl2920
      @jacobl2920 5 лет назад

      @Steven Fontaine lmfao

  • @ciarandolan7695
    @ciarandolan7695 5 лет назад +54

    I would have liked to see some of the places in Mexico that were abandoned like most of the region of perdido

    • @marijnvanbeek4730
      @marijnvanbeek4730 5 лет назад +2

      ciaran dolan they need to add Mexico in a future dlc

    • @ciarandolan7695
      @ciarandolan7695 5 лет назад +1

      yea I know they've already made most of it already from what I hear not the DLC but the bit of Mexico that was in the first game if you don't already know about it apparently some people were able to break the games boundaries and find Mexico unfinished at least in terms of the towns and buildings makes me think if they do get to a single player dlc with jack it will probably involve the chaos that engulfed the us Mexico border during the latter country's civil war

    • @erikallen3804
      @erikallen3804 5 лет назад +3

      The reason we can’t explore Mexico in 1907 is because of the border tensions between America and Mexico. Nothing to do with John and the RDR1 storyline. By 1911/1914, the tensions between the 2 countries have calmed down enough to let people enter each other’s country. I also would’ve liked to see the decline of Perdido since there’s only one house in the region that’s completely abandoned, Barranca. If there’s any more abandoned places I forgot, please reply to my comment. I would’ve also like to see the decline of Tesoro Azul, the town near Escalera in Punta Orgullo. Aside from no railroad, the town seemed fine until Reyes’ rebels took refuge in it and got it burnt down.

    • @ciarandolan7695
      @ciarandolan7695 4 года назад +1

      not entirely true, the Mexican American border in actuality was completely porous until the Mexican revolution. I think people who lived there at the time would have struggled to say there was one. You only would have had occasional army outposts to look out for renegade native bands, and not much else other than some pretty damn seedy border towns. Besides the bandits using common travel routes like skeleton canyon and the renegade apache in the New Mexico bootheel AKA big hatchet country, the only really troubled bit of relations between the two countries governments, not citizens in the 1890s would have been the revolt of the Garzistas. Kind of a small taste of what was to come. Even when the "bandit wars" began the only places that were reliably closed off were at towns on the border and no where else. Border raids back and forth happened repeatedly from 1910 til 1921 hitting a peak from 1914 til 1918. Hope this was a good enough reason.

    • @ciarandolan7695
      @ciarandolan7695 4 года назад +1

      Rancho polvo is another abandoned settlement in Perdido the name literally means dust ranch. There's a small abandoned dwelling right beside it as well, an abandoned mine to the far south and a series of broken down dwellings around Sepulcro. Some abandoned campsite is also deep within sidewinder gulch.

  • @BaronVonMott
    @BaronVonMott 3 года назад +6

    Honestly, with the way Sheriff Freeman's speeches are, I can't believe the writers managed to stop themselves from working a "I AM the law!" in there somewhere.

  • @demeaningrope0329
    @demeaningrope0329 3 года назад +19

    5:15 don’t forget that invisible sniper that Arthur has to deal with everytime he sets foot in New Austin

  • @MrBlade488
    @MrBlade488 5 лет назад +12

    You wanna know something strange about that town. A long time ago I was playing rdr with my friend and we were trying to see one of these ghosts. My friend went in to the manor while I checked out the church (at night of course) upon entering it I saw a black shadow shoot out the back door of the church and at the same time my friend said he could hear whispers in the basement of the manor. After that the server never changed back to day. We played for 4 hours and it was perpetual night on the server we were spooked but also kinda hyped up because we think we caused it or it was just a bug but even if it was a bug its timing was crazy.

  • @Kelly14UK
    @Kelly14UK 5 лет назад +4

    Legendary Undead battles at Tumbleweed. It was my favourite battleground for it. There was something in every direction to climb. Biggest map i think, out the 5.

  • @LoneLoboX88
    @LoneLoboX88 4 года назад +5

    The Lumbago Epidemic of 1908 wiped the prosperous town into a ghostly abyss. Sadly.

  • @siregallahad317
    @siregallahad317 5 лет назад +6

    The way the Sheriff speaks, just reminds me of Fallout for some reason.

  • @mercer3401
    @mercer3401 3 года назад +14

    In rdr1 the west was super depressing and in rdr2 it seemed a little better like the Mcfarlanes ranch being made, tumbleweed being populated and lookin good at that, and the dessert looks beautiful

  • @tylermelo8685
    @tylermelo8685 5 лет назад +18

    The sheriff sounds like a dictator

  • @elderrusty541
    @elderrusty541 5 лет назад +9

    My theory, The Strange Man, whatever entity he is, killed the sheriff, so when Del Lobo found out, they massacred the town, and due to no railroad, no one found out

    • @Rippd_Bagel
      @Rippd_Bagel 5 лет назад

      ...no

    • @beverlyarcher3744
      @beverlyarcher3744 5 лет назад +3

      @@nikolazecevic6693 this is the west so alot of things could have been hushed hushed and something else was blamed

    • @marijnvanbeek4730
      @marijnvanbeek4730 5 лет назад

      Elder Rusty that is a good theory !

    • @elderrusty541
      @elderrusty541 5 лет назад

      thatdudefromearth ehh, it’s just something off the top of my head, but with all the wacky shit in RDR2 and the possible stuff going on with the strange man, it’s kinda possible, ain’t the best theory though, atleast it ain’t some Matpat theory like Arthur Morgan is actually Donald Trump cause their hair is around the same color

  • @frostsoul4199
    @frostsoul4199 3 года назад +18

    "He can kill you with one shot regardless of how much health you have." well shit mate, that's probably due to the fact that he's using a shotgun. even the Hermit north of Annseburg can one shot you with the same shotgun. there's a reason why law enforcement don't use it in-game and that's because it's too powerful for commonly found NPCs to use for fear of breaking the balance of the game.

  • @SavoxYT
    @SavoxYT 4 года назад +2

    Sheriff Freeman must've been doing _something_ right. How many people back then would've accepted a black sheriff?

    • @yotubeification
      @yotubeification 4 года назад

      I mean there were Black U.S. Marshalls at the time. While definitely not a tolerant society back then it is not fully unrealistic to have a black sheriff or other law man.

    • @SavoxYT
      @SavoxYT 4 года назад

      Joseph Henry After reading your reply, I went to look up black US Marshalls and the first one who came up was Bass Reeves who, interestingly enough, is who Sheriff Freeman was modelled after. The man had an epic mustache.

  • @jeffreypeters2803
    @jeffreypeters2803 3 года назад +18

    I didn't realize Tumbleweed was occupied in rdr 2. I stopped really exploring New Austin after I saw the state Armadillo was in, cause I just assumed the zone was going to basically be empty, but this is certainly an interesting touch

    • @1917John
      @1917John Год назад +2

      Why do you Play this Game ?

    • @jeffreypeters2803
      @jeffreypeters2803 Год назад

      @@1917John what do you mean? I enjoy it immensely, I just assumed the rest of the area was unoccupied, and by that point I had done most everything else in the game anyway. I didn't think to check Tumbleweed

  • @settingsun8403
    @settingsun8403 5 лет назад +101

    The Stranger looks a little like Trelawney

    • @assaholicbitch9360
      @assaholicbitch9360 5 лет назад

      Nosevelt McGoldstein thats what I thought too.

    • @assaholicbitch9360
      @assaholicbitch9360 5 лет назад

      We never know what happens to trelawny. Its possible.

    • @adamkilby2273
      @adamkilby2273 5 лет назад +22

      John would recognise Trelawney

    • @settingsun8403
      @settingsun8403 5 лет назад +4

      it is also odd that he pops up when the gang Needs him most
      such when he told the gang about Sean
      or when he just so happened to be on that prisoner wagon in the beginning of Chapter 3
      even when Dutch sends Arthur to find Trelawney later on in the same chapter

    • @jarljbj
      @jarljbj 5 лет назад +6

      Nosevelt McGoldstein yeah not like guys with moustaches and top hats were common back then right

  • @Jonas-xl4wg
    @Jonas-xl4wg 5 лет назад +83

    The Sheriff kinda reminds me of Captain Barnes from Gotham tbh..

  • @delta1525
    @delta1525 5 лет назад +24

    Freeman would be the type of person that calls the cops on you when you pirate a movie.

    • @norfangl3480
      @norfangl3480 3 года назад +2

      Freeman is the one that responds
      With a no knock raid at 3am

    • @trollege9488
      @trollege9488 3 года назад

      Pay legally or i'm not gonna forget so Easily

    • @securitybureauagent3714
      @securitybureauagent3714 3 года назад

      nah he'd arrest you himself

  • @splashnskillz37
    @splashnskillz37 5 лет назад +1

    Abandoned until 1918 when Jack Marston, Terry Adler and Samantha McFarlane helped a group build a railroad line that goes there and takes it in direction of the Northwest of the country, earning muneh and respecc,
    They do the same to limpany, ressurecting towns and profiting

  • @itzcolm8737
    @itzcolm8737 5 лет назад +5

    Historical fact: town's were usually abandoned when there's no company from the opposite sex ie. Brothel

  • @user-cu8if1nb3v
    @user-cu8if1nb3v 5 лет назад +45

    Just so people know you can meet Sean Maguire in RD online

    • @bro5259
      @bro5259 5 лет назад +1

      ?? Where

    • @justinbayless8284
      @justinbayless8284 5 лет назад +4

      You can also meet Bonnie MacFarlane, Lenny and someone else I cant quite remember.

    • @user-cu8if1nb3v
      @user-cu8if1nb3v 5 лет назад

      Justin Bayless where can u meet Lenny?

    • @sleep_aheadv4432
      @sleep_aheadv4432 5 лет назад +1

      ?? You can’t meet lenny

    • @justinbayless8284
      @justinbayless8284 5 лет назад +3

      @@user-cu8if1nb3v Idk. They added him in after I lost Gold. I wasnt able to find him. Id figure hed probably be around Valentine or in the Grizzlies. He definitely wouldnt be in Rhodes. Because you know racism

  • @RiotnRespect
    @RiotnRespect 5 лет назад +4

    I can confirm that there are weird/ghostly shadow figures in Tumbleweed that can be spotted but it is very rare. I remember I was traveling as Jack post main story many years ago and I saw one in the church as well as one just standing at the entrance on the far side of the mansion. As soon as I turned the camera away so that it was off screen and moved it back, it was gone. I haven’t seen them since.

  • @Gabe-gn4uo
    @Gabe-gn4uo 5 лет назад +17

    Got recommended this after listening to the house theme

  • @carpet163
    @carpet163 5 лет назад +6

    This is one badass Sheriff. Really makes me wish there could be some type of DLC about Sheriff Freeman or another one in the game.

  • @tylerboggs9361
    @tylerboggs9361 5 лет назад +11

    Bro if I hear "the law" one more time this week

  • @reddeaddude2187
    @reddeaddude2187 5 лет назад +8

    Glad you're back at it detective.

  • @henrichvonruben9114
    @henrichvonruben9114 5 лет назад +19

    Short answer the train didn't pass through like with Armadillo, McFarlan ranch, Blackwater, etc

    • @meowmeow3778
      @meowmeow3778 5 лет назад

      What train?

    • @henrichvonruben9114
      @henrichvonruben9114 5 лет назад +2

      @@meowmeow3778 you never played Red Dead Redemption I did you

    • @meowmeow3778
      @meowmeow3778 5 лет назад

      @@henrichvonruben9114 I was expecting that you meant the ghost train on red dead 2. Im kinda late because im just 11

    • @henrichvonruben9114
      @henrichvonruben9114 5 лет назад +7

      @@meowmeow3778 in Red Dead Redemption I there's a train that runs to every major town but Tumbleweed which lead to the town's death

    • @johnmarston1111
      @johnmarston1111 5 лет назад

      Keith Williams2 yup

  • @ethangames2413
    @ethangames2413 4 года назад +3

    5:10 alot of people don’t know this but when you clear all the guards in the mission where you save John at sisika penitentary and you go in the jail there is a guard that is standing there and he is invincible and will also as you said kill you in 1 shot

  • @johndasalty111
    @johndasalty111 Год назад +1

    Many characters in the game say "scalp hunter" even Arthur at one point. I think it's just another name for Bounty Hunter

  • @bliczb8772
    @bliczb8772 4 года назад +1

    One thing worth noting - in RDR1, in the church (where also ghost was spotted), there's a writing on the rostrum - "The devil has possessed this beast". Could this point out that Sheriff Freeman became even more ruthless?
    Also on the subject - not just the players reported paranormal sightings in Tumbleweed. There's an article in the game saying that visitors in the town claimed they saw ghosts.

  • @meldgaard4127
    @meldgaard4127 5 лет назад +11

    I've always thought there was something Fizhy about him.

  • @settingsun8403
    @settingsun8403 5 лет назад +6

    the Del Lobo are at Fort Mercer
    and there isn't a side-quest where you take em out (to my knowledge)

  • @spectralerror1020
    @spectralerror1020 4 года назад +6

    Sheriff Freeman is like Emile from Halo, he doesn't want the war to end, he just wants the enemy to die.

  • @Cyclone-od7ih
    @Cyclone-od7ih 3 года назад +1

    Black sheriff and I can't help but think they should have named him Bart and the town Rock Ridge, would have been a nice reference to Blazing Saddles

  • @FimbongBass
    @FimbongBass 5 лет назад +2

    Its that the sheriff in the online mode is actually kind of calm and doesnt seem so power hungry but here in 1907 hes gotten rather...aggressive, something is up with him for sure but also the gunsmith is pretty suspicious too because of what the townspeople say about him

  • @midnightreader4747
    @midnightreader4747 5 лет назад +4

    He's the oldwest version of judge dredd. "I AM...THE LAW."

  • @gabrielplese7516
    @gabrielplese7516 4 года назад +3

    0:26 and in online the town is full of joy

  • @zubankesari7464
    @zubankesari7464 5 лет назад +44

    Does Fizhy look like Arya Stark?

  • @phoenix6303
    @phoenix6303 4 года назад +1

    The reason why Armadillo is fine in RDR1 is:
    the general shop owner
    Herbert Moon made a deal with the strange man
    It was 3 generations or happiness which can be found in the strange mans shack
    He chose 3 generations so the diseases started when his daughter was born
    And ended when his grandchild was born
    As if you loot him you will find a letter from his daughter letting now that he will meet his grandchild soon
    As for the happiness part
    Due to the disease no one bought from his shop
    And he enjoyed selling stuff
    Plus his daughter married a Jew
    And he didn’t like Jews
    So that’s why there is no curse in RDR1

  • @CaptnCrunch247
    @CaptnCrunch247 4 года назад +2

    They tell you why in RDR1.. During the mission titled "Hanging Bonnie MacFarlane", you have a dialogue with the Marshal as you're riding from Armadillo to Tumbleweed where he mentions that it used to be a very busy town until they built the railroad which completely circumvented Tumbleweed. At that point there was no longer a reason for most riders to stop at and/or visit the town any longer, and the town's population slowly began to dwindle until it was eventually taken over by gangs and outlaws..
    Edit: if I had listened to the first 0:50 of this video before commenting, I could've saved myself the time of writing this comment lol.

  • @uncleb6391
    @uncleb6391 5 лет назад +4

    Going to new austin in rdr2 story mode feels sad
    But online new Austin not so sad but I love it

  • @jaykat98
    @jaykat98 5 лет назад +7

    sheriff: "I want 100 del lobo scalps, from 100 dead del lobos... and I will get my scalps"

    • @nicoffee777
      @nicoffee777 3 года назад

      Ah I see, a woman of culture

  • @pkheretic1945
    @pkheretic1945 5 лет назад +93

    Nobody:
    Sheriff: ThE LaW
    Edit: people already made it, rip

    • @genericboi4595
      @genericboi4595 5 лет назад +6

      Too slow on the draw

    • @jordangustafson1365
      @jordangustafson1365 5 лет назад +1

      I give you credit for admitting it. Most people would take the credit.

    • @pkheretic1945
      @pkheretic1945 5 лет назад +2

      Generic Boi slowest fingers in the West :(

  • @kriegdeathrider7805
    @kriegdeathrider7805 3 года назад +1

    It's literally explained in rdr1 in a main story mission the railroad never went to tumbleweed so it couldn't get supplies in fast enough to support the town let alone expansion so eventually everyone left presumably to armadillo

  • @kira4739
    @kira4739 4 года назад +1

    In the strange man place (where you find his painting) there is a map of armadillo and a writing over it saying "I gave you the choice between happiness or two generations, you made your choice" maybe that how the curse was deflected?

  • @goodgdm8321
    @goodgdm8321 5 лет назад +6

    he looks like he could be lil nas’ ancestor

  • @KaladinVegapunk
    @KaladinVegapunk 5 лет назад +15

    Honestly it does crack me up when John being the epilogue character is seen as a spoiler hahaha
    Like 5 years ago when we found out it was a prequel and Arthur was the protag most of us predicted John would be the epilogue character immediately, just like with 1 and Jack
    Plus it's not like it spoils anything about Arthur
    I know it's just being polite but still

    • @chriss3208
      @chriss3208 4 года назад

      Odin Satanas Yeah I mean I had a feeling Arthur would die it was how that was the question

    • @etdrwho8328
      @etdrwho8328 4 года назад

      I disagree, when I first played rdr I played rdr2 and I had no clue there was an epilogue.

  • @conoiyer3651
    @conoiyer3651 5 лет назад +4

    I thought this was a creepypasta vid about red dead before clicking on it

  • @josephvaccaro2881
    @josephvaccaro2881 4 года назад +1

    I'd like to see a one on one fight between sherif Freeman and Dutch with no rules, that way it can be "the law" vs "the plan"

  • @shane4429
    @shane4429 4 года назад +1

    It feels so weird seeing people in tumbleweed after rdr1

  • @NevaLose94
    @NevaLose94 5 лет назад +34

    Actually the reason is exposed in RDR1. Old news resurfacing.

  • @comradeurod9805
    @comradeurod9805 5 лет назад +14

    Pretty obvious innit? Nah jk, nice video as always M8. The lore behind the game is awesome

    • @Jonas-xl4wg
      @Jonas-xl4wg 5 лет назад +2

      What tf does innit mean?

    • @Syndixal
      @Syndixal 5 лет назад +1

      @@Jonas-xl4wg isn't it

    • @Jonas-xl4wg
      @Jonas-xl4wg 5 лет назад

      Noke thx, the British have a lot of weird terms lol

    • @jad3nn_537
      @jad3nn_537 5 лет назад

      Creanzey that’s not British British people don’t say mate Australian people do

  • @bentomlins785
    @bentomlins785 5 лет назад +18

    Probable because I have shot the Sheriff there about three-hundred times.

  • @aidanc538
    @aidanc538 5 лет назад +1

    I’ve played through rdr2 twice, I’m on my third time, and I am so excited to get to the epilogue to go to armadillo and tumbleweed again

  • @zacharygalbaugh2818
    @zacharygalbaugh2818 Год назад

    If you walk around tumbleweed for long enough you can hear someone say "the laws people break in this town aren't even by the books"