Kimberly Brouwers it’s entirely possible that the cardboard representation of London remained completely stationary and the horse, Jay and the rest of the greater metropolis moved around it, but I think that may be beyond the scope of this video.
@@JayForeman lol I really thought that happened 😂 kudos for the transparency 👏 also, did the real map land outside of the picture or did you edit it out? 🤔
Here in America, In the New England area. We still have names like “Middlesex” among others like Kent, Peterborough, Bristol, Cambridge, etc etc. I’m sure the early colonist didn’t want to pick new names for this new land at the time but if “middlesex” got lost to London in the UK, rest assured it’s still alone in America. Lol
It was so groups of people who left their town didn't feel homesick when they reached America. Lots of other British colonies do the same. Perth, Australia/ Perth, Scotland, Exeter Adelaide/ Exeter, England are a few examples. Also nice to know where the people in my town went.
Ah so it begins, in a few years time you will be sipping tea in your garden having just pottered about in the shed all while complaining about the weather.
@@ad3z10 oh I can only imagine. TfL if you head towards somewhere out of Epsom. No TfL for local buses within Epsom/Ewell, and certainly not getting to the Downs.
Ooh I feel that. I’m living in Sevenoaks and the bloody oyster systems stops literally one station before mine, which means I pay a fortune in train tickets
When they changed the borders why did they not change the postcodes?I live one road away from Beckenham Kent which officially isn’t Kent but Greater London & my mum lives one road away from Croydon Surrey which is also officially Greater London.
@@LH-kr4od I think it’s her race...the comment is racially tinged. She seems rather racist wanting to distance herself from largely white Essex. A common theme in Britain is black on white racism but nobody is allowed to talk about it
As an American it's not like I need to know about London politics, but when you present them with the humor of Benny Hill it suddenly becomes very important to me.
-I'm going to confidently propose that you either didn't watch this video, or you have never watched Benny Hill.- -I refuse to accept that the US education system is so bad that you could have watched both, yet still drawn the conclusion of the OP.- Ok, the OP responded to Jay and I retract the above. The US education system really _is_ that bad.
Your advertising strategy is the best and smartest on RUclips. You know that your content is so good that people easily watch it to the end, including the creative advertisement, which is also fun to watch. Great job m8!
Some say that the mysterious CGP Grey will return one day and on that day he will provide and in depth pseudo-animated infographically educational electronic cinematic film short on the geopolitical subdivisons of a geopolitical subdivision located within a geopolitcal subdivision of a rocky celestial body called earth. All we know is... Hes called the STI- wait wrong show.
Gwangmyeong is a suburban city, being southwest to Seoul City proper, of Greater Seoul (technically belonging to Gyeonggi Province) in South Korea, but not still part of Seoul proper. It used to be planned to be annexed into Seoul City proper, but the central government, rather wanting to foster satellite cities, didn't want to expand Seoul more, so it had to become an independent municipality despite the residents' hope to become proper Seoulites.
Well of course the rich people raised a stink. The whole reason they chose to live where they did in the first place is because it was close to London but it wasn't London.
There was a similar problem when boroughs merged into the city of Montreal like 15 years ago. The richer one didn't want to join, since that would mean that their money would be distributed to be used for the needs of other more impoverished boroughs. If you look at the map of Montreal, you will see "holes" in the island, which include Westmount, Mont-Royal and Côte-Saint-Luc.
The Commuter “journey-time-test “ was done in the days when many of the rail routes in were still diesel and not yet electrified. Electrification made a hell of a difference.
The GEOGRAPHIC home counties - Middlesex, Berkshire, Essex, Kent, Surrey - still do exist, however, and encroach into the political area of Greater London. However, those run right up to the walls of the ancient City, and do not respect the political changes of 1889 and 1965. So Hounslow is in Middlesex geographically, but so is Westminster. Bexley is in Kent geographically, but so is Lewisham. And so on... Postal counties that show home counties in Greater London specifically outside of the cardinal inner-London post codes, however, were formally axed in 1996.
This is brilliant. We moved to Kingston 15 years ago and always wondered why, unlike Greater Manchester we don't use Greater London in our addresses or common vernacular. I tell family back home we live in Greater London but then they say we live in Surrey due to our postal address. Even people in London say, 'that's not London'. Trying to explain to people back home that we live in London is a tough one to get across. Great video!
Most Greater Manchester residents do not use Greater Manchester on their addresses. Just like Greater London, a lot of folk are very proud of the historical counties and districts and will therefore put either Cheshire or Lancashire. The postcodes are also similar to London, as in they keep codes from (what were once satellite towns, like Oldham OL..., Bolton, BL..., Stockport, SK..., Wigan WN...) their original town, even though they are now in Greater Manchester. Very similar to London. Funnily enough the oft-stated city-in-its-own-right Salford uses a Manchester (M...) postcode! It is a bit messed up but nothing on the scale of London!
Great video. My view of what was "London" proper or not was mostly shaped by the underground fare zones. Upto zone 4 in London. Zone 5 iffy but possible. Zone 6 definitely out! There seemed to be some areas that wanted the best of both worlds - Croydon?
@Time Traveller Well, Jay has a bunch of videos on promoting urban biking, making public transport more environmentally sustainable and minimizing the spread automobilism in the city. So UNLIKE the BBC Jay has a very clear agenda on this channel. It's an amazing agenda that everyone should promote, but an agenda nevertheless.
These videos are so well made. The jokes, the information, and the skits are so well integrated. It’s a seem less show of creativity. I also laugh my American ass off because I love your humor.
The whole “I live in a different town than what my mailing address says” is an issue in the US too. I’ve found that most people default to saying what’s on their mail as being where they say they’re from…. unless it’s a very rural area. In those areas, the zip code town name is huge, and so you have to be more specific when saying where you live. If the made-up zip code name of Anywhere has an area of 50 miles, it’s more helpful to say you live in the little town of “But Here” within “Anywhere.”
The suburban communities of Rochester, NY seem to be in a similar limbo. When I visited there, I found out that RIT bordered a place known as “Henrietta”, but then I found out that its postal address was still in Rochester. I then found an Outback Steakhouse in “Greece” (the community in Upstate NY, not the country), but it was again in Rochester according to its postal address. My question is whether the city of Rochester has ever had to do something like London did.
There is a zip code in my county that crosses the boarder into the next county. More confusingly, the zip code name is the same as the name of this other county. So people who live there have to give their address as being a county they don't live in.
In the UK, you need to also include different countries. A friend of mine lives in Wales, but her postcode is for Herefordshire, which is in England. (While they're both obv in the UK, they are still different countries.)
1. Jade Nagi is the best part of the video after Jay. 2. Portraying the 1965 boundary commission like the "Upper-Class Twits of the Year" from Monty Python was a nice touch.
Greetings from Timor-Leste. I stumbled across your channel for the first time today and have already devoured three of your videos. What a pleasure it is to watch and listen to you. At last, someone informative with a bloody great sense of humour, producing videos that make me laugh out loud. Brilliant to say the least. I grew up in Australia watching British comedy (which was, and still is the best in the world) and Jay, you are up there with the greats of the past six decades. Keep it up. You are the perfect compliment to my morning expresso. One other thing. May i suggest that you visit Kim Jong-un's barber to maybe spruce up your hair style?
I needed this to have been made two years ago when an acquaintance absolutely tore me to shreds for referring to visiting friends in Croydon as "going to London". To them, only the London postcode district was Proper London.
@@PiousMoltar So that'd mean that e.g. Camden, Finsbury and Islington aren't in London. What do you think they are? Separate towns? Where's the countryside in between?
Just a note on the fact about Surrey county hall at 4:20. I shared this fact with my family in Surrey as I thought they'd be interested. But apparently after March 2019 it was announced that the council would move to Midas House in Woking (which is in Surrey and not Greater London) and County Hall in Kingston would be sold - although at the time of writing the move has yet to be completed. Also to add to the question about where London ends, my cousin works at a kids outdoors centre in Surrey in the village of Shear - which I would describe as most definitely not London - but the centre is owned and run by (and my cousin paid by) Westminster council. Which makes sense as the kids who go are all from London schools. However my cousin who lives on site pays his council tax to Surrey, doesn't get to vote for those who decide Westminster spending and he votes for the MP for the consistency of Guildford.
I'm more curious about how that council ended up in such an embarrassing situation in the first place. All this political reorganization took years to accomplish, right? That should've been enough time for the council to find another place to meet outside the new lines...
honestly those 1965 posh Epsom people can leave ive got to pay a bus to get to and from school (which is in Epsom) everyday while my friend WHO GETS THE SAME JOURNEY doesn't because she lives across the street and "technically in London" its actually pissing
Emily H Juat be grateful that you don't live in a undeveloped hell hole like Somalia, The United States or Afghanistan where there is no public transportation.
Yeah it's bloody annoying, can't use Oyster cards there. I grew up in Ewell West which is zone 6, parents now live in Tadworth which is much further out but also zone 6
Blackout043 go to Woolwich for a year where that big out door TV is then you will be dying to get back to Dartford. It's just full off polish and liths not Londonstain shit.
Living in Dartford i always found it weird that we don't seem to be in greater london but yet we still have things that greater london has (such as contactless payment for buses and trains) but we also miss out on some other things avalible to us. Its super strange.
"Poor old Middlesex, already lumbered with a funny name, was gobbled up almost entirely by Greater London and the remaining bits were ceded to neighbouring Surrey and Hertfordshire. As a result, since 1965, Middlesex is no longer a thing..." My husband and I both interjected, exclaimed "There's one in North Carolina!" Thanks for such a neat-o show, and for having us rowdy-some over!
I still enjoy the Great Courses Plus promo where he's coughing in a bed... I can't remember the video, and I haven't signed up for the Great Courses Plus, but I am more inclined to support him on Patreon.
I was born in 1958, near Ilford, which was then in Essex, although when I was 4 1/2 in late 1962 to Hornchurch, also then in Essex but the boundaries were changed whilst we still lived there. I was seven in 1965, so did not understand politics, but I do remember Dad having to get a new fireplace because we had become a smokeless zone [this was explained, I could understand that it meant we could no longer burn coal]. My father had grown up in Barking also in the Essex/London area, and my grandmother continued to live there most of the rest of her life. When my parents sent her a letter or card they still addressed the envelopes ''Barking, Essex''. When I was 8 we moved to Gravesend in Kent, a few miles outside the Greater London Area, and we moved again when I was 10 to St Leonards in Sussex, on the coast. We have lived in St Leonards or neighbouring Hastings ever since, with several local moves. Perhaps someone could confirm or correct this, that the pre-1965 boundary between Essex and London County was the River Lee which goes through modern Newham [a borough which was created in 1965], so East Ham was Essex and West Ham was London County.
At 1:54 - “The commission was notable for not containing any one with previous involvement in local government of London area” Doesn’t surprise me at all😂😂 What is it with brits and their obsession of drawing lines on land which they don’t understand. Cyril Radcliffe, who drew India Pakistan border, had never lived in British India and had absolutely no idea of Indian demography. After he did draw the line, he left India before the borders were made public, fearing for his life.
I wonder if the intent was to keep politicians from trying to draw lines to their benefits (jerrymandering). Get people from the outside normal deadlocked partisan politics to form the council. Doesn't mean they knew what they were doing, just that they were maybe less compromised/deadlocked than people in politics.
Today is one of my 5 favourite days of the year (One of Jay's 5 yearly upload days). This isn't a dish, Jay's videos are sooooooooooo good that they take at least 2 months 2 make and I'm sooooooooooo happy when they come out.
Since 1965 there were numerous *small* changes to the Greater London area. One which always stands out for me is Arkley which reverted to Hertfordshire back in 1991. At 6:06 we can see that stray triangle pointing north near Barnet. Also Greater London did not share a border with Berkshire until 1995.
Arkley is still in London. The area you're talking about that was transferred to Hertfordshire is a patch of farmland bordered by some roads that separate it from the rest of that county.
The Richard Soames goes : heb heb heb The Dan Bull says: goes: hep hep hep The Stuart Ashen goes: hab hab hab and the PAUL KENDLER goes: nom nom *noms chocolate*
No way is my primary school teacher Mrs Foreman featured in the video at 5:24?!?! I'm assuming she's your mother? Bloody awesome, she was a great teacher when I was younger!
For a moment, I forgot who I was watching, and was totally buying into the "Problem Solver 3000". The scream when she was faced with a problem she couldn't solve is the highlight of the whole video for me. Short but very sweet. Great entertainment. And educational, too. Teaches much about the epic British skill for "muddling through".
My parents were born in Essex in the 50s, and then became Londoners in 1964. I grew up in the same part of East London, but I always thought of Ilford, Barking, Dagenham etc as being Essex (a childhood of addressing envelopes to relatives who lived in those areas!) I only realised they had been London all along a few years ago 😲
Actually it was a rather large chunk of Hertfordshire, and it’s all in the borough of Barnet. We considered including that, but the video already felt a bit too long.
The biggest mystery for me is how you are so funny. None of the jokes you make should be funny on paper but they’re all hilarious. I think that’s probably a sign of genius.
The girl acting as the “Problem Solver 3000” could participate more. I thought she was hilarious. Also, keep up the good work! It is one of my favorite channels, I can’t stop watching Politics Unboringed. You have a big fan here in South America (Brazil) 😊
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Hep! Hep!
Hahaha I was thinking Mr. Lawson looked familiar :D
Hep! Hep! Hep!
Map Men x Rap Men soon™?
@@YUNOBF3 I think they are realising one on Monday.
Hep!
I just watched a 9 minute video on a border that doesn’t concern me and I loved it. What???
Same here i live in the US so literally everything he talks about London basically doesn't matter
You came here for the comedy didnt u?
Welcome to geography mate, where everything everywhere is interesting :D
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Me too! I live in Holland and having a hard time looking for houses to rent 😭
Did... did that cardboard London hit a horse?
Nope. Computer magic and a cheeky sound effect. In real life, the cardboard thing landed nowhere near the horse.
I’ve a feeling Jay grew up on a steady diet of Monty Python, the goons, Ronnie Barker and yes (prime) minister. Editing is occasionally illogical.
But did the horse land anywhere near the cardboard thing?
Kimberly Brouwers it’s entirely possible that the cardboard representation of London remained completely stationary and the horse, Jay and the rest of the greater metropolis moved around it, but I think that may be beyond the scope of this video.
Green screen :wink:
He actually hit the police horse with his map of London. Absolutely hilarous
Not in real life. That was a bit of computer magic. I can’t throw anywhere near that far.
Time stamp?
@@nandi7772 03:45
@@TheStargateNerd 😂😂
@@JayForeman lol I really thought that happened 😂 kudos for the transparency 👏 also, did the real map land outside of the picture or did you edit it out? 🤔
Here in America, In the New England area. We still have names like “Middlesex” among others like Kent, Peterborough, Bristol, Cambridge, etc etc. I’m sure the early colonist didn’t want to pick new names for this new land at the time but if “middlesex” got lost to London in the UK, rest assured it’s still alone in America. Lol
We've also got a Middlesex County in Ontario AND it surrounds London on three sides.
It was so groups of people who left their town didn't feel homesick when they reached America. Lots of other British colonies do the same. Perth, Australia/ Perth, Scotland, Exeter Adelaide/ Exeter, England are a few examples. Also nice to know where the people in my town went.
@@watson956 Just wait, our London ate our Middlesex, maybe yours eventually will too :P
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there's a kent in washington state
Neverthenonetheless: a great and definitely real word.
@@hiccup1001 and not several meters to the left.
It is a real word
I thought it was neverthelondonless.
I absolutely LOVED his very first sentence.
Oh I thought he was saying, "Neverthelondoness" which also would have been pretty dope, if also considerably less portable to other situations.
I'm a Californian with no aquaintances from the UK nor any plans to visit it, yet I cannot stop watching these videos
@fluidgrab I wanna go to the UK...
@fluidgrab I see. Well I'm glad to be in the other half
Also a Californian, I’m still asking to same question
Ah so it begins, in a few years time you will be sipping tea in your garden having just pottered about in the shed all while complaining about the weather.
Like number 420! Good job everyone!
London never stops, we will expand until London covers the earth, sea and sky, London is inevitable
The sun will never set on London.
London already has
I sincerely hope you are NOT including France in this 😂😂
@@stevehendon4076 ewww no. We will ignore the French
You joke but it really feels like that sometimes!
this feels like it was made in 2002 but no, it was made in 2019. Love it.
How have documentaries changed since 2002?
@@JayForeman You have to be more polarizing, the video is way to nuanced!
Also the average attention time spam has been reduced to 28 seconds ! ;-))
Epsom then: We're Surrey
Epsom now: Please let us use an oyster card. Please.
At least there are TFL bus lines that come down here.
I can do Dorking -> Kingston for less than 1/4 of the price of Dorking -> Reigate.
@@ad3z10 oh I can only imagine. TfL if you head towards somewhere out of Epsom. No TfL for local buses within Epsom/Ewell, and certainly not getting to the Downs.
Ooh I feel that. I’m living in Sevenoaks and the bloody oyster systems stops literally one station before mine, which means I pay a fortune in train tickets
@@ad3z10 The one great thing about London compared to other UK cities is the publicised bus network. Cheap prices!
When they changed the borders why did they not change the postcodes?I live one road away from Beckenham Kent which officially isn’t Kent but Greater London & my mum lives one road away from Croydon Surrey which is also officially Greater London.
Well if you're an American, London stops when you get to Scotland.
No, if you're an American, London doesn't stop.
ScOtLaNd iS iN eNgLaNd AnD eNgLaNd Is In LoNdOn
It does if you’re talking about Air Traffic Control !
Chim Chim cheree!
Same for “London Air Traffic Contrôle”
3:44 Very good trick with the cardboard map hitting the policemen on horses...
Did it actually XD?
@@TheLadyPlantagenet sadly, no. he said under a comment that he edited it in.
very good editing though!
I saw that and was like, “did that just happen?!” I love the little Easter eggs in this series, too funny!
Didn't Jay noticed?
2:54 Gibraltar on the list of places being classed as 'not London' - I'm dying
J G ikr lol
Would be funny if it was though!
It's not London but it is very Moorish!
That one was addmitatly close tho
Someone call a doctor
Watch 3:46 where Jay indirectly assaults a Metropolitan Police horse in the background by throwing his map carelessly
Ooof
that piece actually hit the horse
and it neighed
@@kievitness it was cgi
@@angry_icelander3744 oh thank god
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This channel is the incarnation of the weird british humour
True, which means it's awesome.
Monty python
I know this. I know this. He's the illegitimate son of one of the Monty Pythons. Via this medium he want to prove himself to his dad.
true
@@theobolt250But your name is Bolt.
Love that little bit of the CGP grey jingle on "that's a story for another time"!
Oh, indeed!
The biggest form of flattery is imitation
IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE @@francescoalberga3819 MILLIONS SUFFER EVERY YEAR!
First!!
3 days ago? Hmmm
How did you and other people comment three days ago, on a video published today? Something's fishy!
Earth it's a stop
Are you still doing comedy songs?
thinking emoji
"neverthenonetheless"
my new favorite wourd.
Neverthenonetheless, bridgecross never used this word.
Leeds vs Manchester vs Birmingham
Insofarasinasmuchas it's not really a word, it's now one of my favourites too.
Im your 666th like
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Wonderful Watford
Delightful Dartford
...Slough
Shitty slough
Sloppy Slough
Well what do you expect there’s been a rape up there
Ew slough
VILE STINKING FUCKING FILTHY ROTTEN CUNTING SHIT.
As a Romford resident who feels more like a Londoner than an “Essex girl”, this video is so on point!!
I wouldn’t count anyone from London that’s not in north west south or east
Na I from Romford and we are defintly Essex boys.
You're the first person I've ever heard of from Romford who feels like a Londoner! Most are fiercely Essex.
@@LH-kr4od I think it’s her race...the comment is racially tinged. She seems rather racist wanting to distance herself from largely white Essex. A common theme in Britain is black on white racism but nobody is allowed to talk about it
@@LH-kr4od I'm from Romford too and I definitely identify more with east London than Essex
As an American it's not like I need to know about London politics, but when you present them with the humor of Benny Hill it suddenly becomes very important to me.
JC Fennec I kinda want to move to London just to make these videos relevant to me:)
Never hurts to learn new things...
-I'm going to confidently propose that you either didn't watch this video, or you have never watched Benny Hill.-
-I refuse to accept that the US education system is so bad that you could have watched both, yet still drawn the conclusion of the OP.-
Ok, the OP responded to Jay and I retract the above. The US education system really _is_ that bad.
@@doubtfulguest5450 Everything British to a lot of Americans is just Monty Python and Benny Hill. We know nothing else.
...Benny Hill? Tf does this have to do with Benny Hill hahaha
Greater London: "Oi, pay your Council Tax!"
Surrey: *"WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER HERE AND MAKE ME?!"*
@Egikam kamemura You swallow.
@Egikam Which is why it costs an arm and a leg to live there...
London stop on Hijab border
@@Achkahkl Alas, even #Dorking has a mosque these days..
@@aclark903 Meh, in east Surrey (Redhill, Caterham...) it's not that bad: it only costs about HALF an arm and a leg. ;)
Your advertising strategy is the best and smartest on RUclips.
You know that your content is so good that people easily watch it to the end, including the creative advertisement, which is also fun to watch.
Great job m8!
I'm still not signing up though!
@@airhab at least we dont get irritated by it. So well done..
We even got a catchy jingle 😂
I'm concerned about the problem solver 3000's appendage severing issues though. I'm not sure he should be advertising it.
Thanks!
I feel like there's a CGP Grey reference in this video... but thats a story for another day
Some say that the mysterious CGP Grey will return one day and on that day he will provide and in depth pseudo-animated infographically educational electronic cinematic film short on the geopolitical subdivisons of a geopolitical subdivision located within a geopolitcal subdivision of a rocky celestial body called earth. All we know is... Hes called the STI- wait wrong show.
3:58 four and a half million people woke up as Londoners for the first time!”
“AAAAUUUGGGGHHHHHHH”
You sure its not an april fools joke?
Hey, did you watch the fucking video too?
@@mynewaccount2361 I know right, tired of the damn comments just being quote spam
@@screamsinrussian5773 just because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean that other people aren't allowed to make a remark.
@@sheepketchup9059 no fun allowed reeee
3:26 so that's what Tomska is busy doing at these days
Accurate CGP Grey impression too
Something about the hair though
CGP Grey impression? Oh right, "that's a video for another time."
Gwangmyeong is a suburban city, being southwest to Seoul City proper, of Greater Seoul (technically belonging to Gyeonggi Province) in South Korea, but not still part of Seoul proper. It used to be planned to be annexed into Seoul City proper, but the central government, rather wanting to foster satellite cities, didn't want to expand Seoul more, so it had to become an independent municipality despite the residents' hope to become proper Seoulites.
2:55 - Are you trying to tell me that Gibraltar is NOT LONDON?!
One way to find out look out for non london bus
They are Londoners but not actually, technically, officially, legally live in London
Do you mean Gibraltar in Spain ?
@@brunasantana8266 No, Gibraltar in Herefordshire!
India is London
“London was also divided into 32 new boroughs, but that’s a story for another time”... releases video 13 months later 😂
I think that is still a better track record than CGP has with his "stories for another time". :D
Guntis Murāns definitely. He waited 5 years to do the indian reservations video
@@shapeovertime6364 and he still hasn't started the first real video on it
native american, shape overtime
@@dontspikemydrink9382 alright grammar police
2:30
'Wonderful Watford'
'Delightful Dartford'
'Slough'
Just Slough.
Slough doesn't deserve an adjective.
Don't think Dartford deserves Delightful. Should be Dreadful hahaha
It's the Slough of despond
not british, but know that slough is slough. and definitely nothing more
It's know as Dirtford .
Slough. Or Sluff as some call it. The wrinkly scrotum of despair.
3:45 - I swear I've watched this video like 5 times, and never noticed this moment. Such subtle editing, amazing
Well of course the rich people raised a stink. The whole reason they chose to live where they did in the first place is because it was close to London but it wasn't London.
yeah, notice how the only tory voting parts of london are on the very outskirts.
There was a similar problem when boroughs merged into the city of Montreal like 15 years ago. The richer one didn't want to join, since that would mean that their money would be distributed to be used for the needs of other more impoverished boroughs.
If you look at the map of Montreal, you will see "holes" in the island, which include Westmount, Mont-Royal and Côte-Saint-Luc.
@@EnteiFire4 I thought it was a language issue, since those towns are also mainly Anglo.
I love CGP Grey and i'm glad you poked at him.
The Commuter “journey-time-test “ was done in the days when many of the rail routes in were still diesel and not yet electrified. Electrification made a hell of a difference.
5:36 thats the saddest sink I've seen in my life
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Someone has finally made this video! I'm so happy that finally I have something to back me up when I have this argument with people!
Fake world wide Web videos just like fake news. Sorry.
The GEOGRAPHIC home counties - Middlesex, Berkshire, Essex, Kent, Surrey - still do exist, however, and encroach into the political area of Greater London. However, those run right up to the walls of the ancient City, and do not respect the political changes of 1889 and 1965. So Hounslow is in Middlesex geographically, but so is Westminster. Bexley is in Kent geographically, but so is Lewisham. And so on...
Postal counties that show home counties in Greater London specifically outside of the cardinal inner-London post codes, however, were formally axed in 1996.
@@pyeltd.5457 you ok?
Fate 04 yes.
“Why does this bit stick out, here?” *tickle tickle* and I almost spat out my tea
The same thing was happening in Kent.
This is brilliant. We moved to Kingston 15 years ago and always wondered why, unlike Greater Manchester we don't use Greater London in our addresses or common vernacular. I tell family back home we live in Greater London but then they say we live in Surrey due to our postal address. Even people in London say, 'that's not London'. Trying to explain to people back home that we live in London is a tough one to get across. Great video!
If you get free travel you're in London
Most Greater Manchester residents do not use Greater Manchester on their addresses. Just like Greater London, a lot of folk are very proud of the historical counties and districts and will therefore put either Cheshire or Lancashire. The postcodes are also similar to London, as in they keep codes from (what were once satellite towns, like Oldham OL..., Bolton, BL..., Stockport, SK..., Wigan WN...) their original town, even though they are now in Greater Manchester. Very similar to London. Funnily enough the oft-stated city-in-its-own-right Salford uses a Manchester (M...) postcode! It is a bit messed up but nothing on the scale of London!
Suppose, you lived in Swansea, how would you explain that?
Not really London though
@@SD-iv4sz neither is Tottenham or Fulham
Great video.
My view of what was "London" proper or not was mostly shaped by the underground fare zones. Upto zone 4 in London. Zone 5 iffy but possible. Zone 6 definitely out! There seemed to be some areas that wanted the best of both worlds - Croydon?
0:06 you can tell this bit is fake because he's supposedly on the M25 yet he's clearly going faster than 4mph. Disliked.
Okay but why does Jay still dress like a communist chairman, and how come I can't tell if this episode is from 2009 or 2019?
2009 youtube would never have a sponsorship on a video.
In one video he dressed as a communist chairwoman.
I liked him better that way.
Its couture
3:30 I'm pretty sure that car isn't a 2009 model 🤣🤣
These half-Westernized jackets, 90% of the time they just look bad.
The BBC should give you loads of money to make actual content!
Can't tell if this is a compliment or an insult. British people are weird.
Cl0ckcl0ck they did
This is the most actual it can get, mate.
Cl0ckcl0ck he can’t work for the bbc he’s not a sex pest lol
@Time Traveller Well, Jay has a bunch of videos on promoting urban biking, making public transport more environmentally sustainable and minimizing the spread automobilism in the city. So UNLIKE the BBC Jay has a very clear agenda on this channel. It's an amazing agenda that everyone should promote, but an agenda nevertheless.
These videos are so well made. The jokes, the information, and the skits are so well integrated. It’s a seem less show of creativity. I also laugh my American ass off because I love your humor.
Hello I'm Sir Edwin Herbert 🤣🤣
HEY I SAW AT LEAST TWO MAP MEN IN THIS VIDEO
Map men?
Map...
Men...
**cut to wooden storage case being enrolled into map storage warehouse**
Map men map men map map map map men men
@@MostlyPennyCat Map Map Map Men . . . Men
(It's a separate Jay Foreman series about Maps)
Yeah I know.
But I'll die before I pass up a chance to make a Top Men joke...
Jay I quit my job today and on my depressing journey home I got this video. Thank you (from a West Londoner)
Those are some very sweet special effects at 3:45 hahaha
Yeah, it's wonderfully done :)
Wait... I thought he threw the map and it actually hit the horse and bounced off? I was wondering why the police didn't say something lol
Ikr they're really good. Couldn't tell it even was special effects at first.
The whole “I live in a different town than what my mailing address says” is an issue in the US too. I’ve found that most people default to saying what’s on their mail as being where they say they’re from…. unless it’s a very rural area. In those areas, the zip code town name is huge, and so you have to be more specific when saying where you live. If the made-up zip code name of Anywhere has an area of 50 miles, it’s more helpful to say you live in the little town of “But Here” within “Anywhere.”
The suburban communities of Rochester, NY seem to be in a similar limbo. When I visited there, I found out that RIT bordered a place known as “Henrietta”, but then I found out that its postal address was still in Rochester. I then found an Outback Steakhouse in “Greece” (the community in Upstate NY, not the country), but it was again in Rochester according to its postal address. My question is whether the city of Rochester has ever had to do something like London did.
There is a zip code in my county that crosses the boarder into the next county. More confusingly, the zip code name is the same as the name of this other county. So people who live there have to give their address as being a county they don't live in.
In the UK, you need to also include different countries. A friend of mine lives in Wales, but her postcode is for Herefordshire, which is in England. (While they're both obv in the UK, they are still different countries.)
@@Trixtah in the Wirral, Merseyside our post code is still CH for Cheshire and it often says Cheshire on addresses
3:55 A CGP Grey reference?
I see you are a man of good taste
I was thinking the same thing lol
ysa :P *culture
I saw that too!
No shit
Yes and both of them when they say "another time" they also happen to mean in 5 years. So yeah..
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Ehemmm I think u ment to say PERSON???
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1. Jade Nagi is the best part of the video after Jay.
2. Portraying the 1965 boundary commission like the "Upper-Class Twits of the Year" from Monty Python was a nice touch.
😊 Thank you! I was very nervous.
@@jadeforeman131 where have you gone Jade ? I miss your bazoomas (b"oobs)
Greetings from Timor-Leste.
I stumbled across your channel for the first time today and have already devoured three of your videos.
What a pleasure it is to watch and listen to you.
At last, someone informative with a bloody great sense of humour, producing videos that make me laugh out loud.
Brilliant to say the least.
I grew up in Australia watching British comedy (which was, and still is the best in the world) and Jay, you are up there with the greats of the past six decades.
Keep it up.
You are the perfect compliment to my morning expresso.
One other thing.
May i suggest that you visit Kim Jong-un's barber to maybe spruce up your hair style?
2:10 "Neverthenonetheless"
Gar Nicht q
He says it so casually I thought it was an actual word
Did NOT expect to see Stuart Ashen in this video
Now I understand why it was in my recommended videos.
I honestly thought he was Simon Pegg
I love how there’s just 3 second cameos by random British RUclipsrs
Who?
all i recognise is 1:50 which i think is ashens?
Dan bull was one of them
Look at description to see who was in the video.
my favourite bit in this is at 0:42 where the bit Jay was playing with before the title card is all crinkled
I needed this to have been made two years ago when an acquaintance absolutely tore me to shreds for referring to visiting friends in Croydon as "going to London". To them, only the London postcode district was Proper London.
Yeah I had a friend from Croydon who would always say " I am going to London" and I would be like you are in London!
As someone who lives in Bromley I can confirm the mockery is real. 'No SE postcode, no London' they say
Only the square mile is proper London
It's also its own city and its own county
@@PiousMoltar So that'd mean that e.g. Camden, Finsbury and Islington aren't in London. What do you think they are? Separate towns? Where's the countryside in between?
@@rosiefay7283 Nah, City of London is different from London due to the French (Normans) weren't able to defeat it.
Just a note on the fact about Surrey county hall at 4:20.
I shared this fact with my family in Surrey as I thought they'd be interested. But apparently after March 2019 it was announced that the council would move to Midas House in Woking (which is in Surrey and not Greater London) and County Hall in Kingston would be sold - although at the time of writing the move has yet to be completed.
Also to add to the question about where London ends, my cousin works at a kids outdoors centre in Surrey in the village of Shear - which I would describe as most definitely not London - but the centre is owned and run by (and my cousin paid by) Westminster council. Which makes sense as the kids who go are all from London schools. However my cousin who lives on site pays his council tax to Surrey, doesn't get to vote for those who decide Westminster spending and he votes for the MP for the consistency of Guildford.
I'm more curious about how that council ended up in such an embarrassing situation in the first place. All this political reorganization took years to accomplish, right? That should've been enough time for the council to find another place to meet outside the new lines...
Yeah they moved to Reigate instead, funny that
honestly those 1965 posh Epsom people can leave ive got to pay a bus to get to and from school (which is in Epsom) everyday while my friend WHO GETS THE SAME JOURNEY doesn't because she lives across the street and "technically in London" its actually pissing
Emily H Juat be grateful that you don't live in a undeveloped hell hole like Somalia, The United States or Afghanistan where there is no public transportation.
MegaBall PowerBall - Somalia and Afghanistan aren't _that_ bad.
@@MegaBallPowerBall Man said United States 😂😂😂
@@VoidLantadd Their public transportation systems are pretty bad. But true, both of those countries do have some good attributes.
Yeah it's bloody annoying, can't use Oyster cards there. I grew up in Ewell West which is zone 6, parents now live in Tadworth which is much further out but also zone 6
I love the fade out that didn't go anywhere. Comic genius.
Wonderful Watford, delightful Dartford, and... Slough.
Sloooouuuugh
Dartford, or Dirtford as it's colloquially known, is anything BUT delightful. And Watford isn't that wonderful either...
@@EclipseOfTsuki93 At least Watford's juice tastes nice.
Fuck off. Dartford mob will do sommin. Get off my turff.
Blackout043 go to Woolwich for a year where that big out door TV is then you will be dying to get back to Dartford. It's just full off polish and liths not Londonstain shit.
The greatest video of all time..............about London.
Hello Mr.Beat
Beat
*your wife*
Your adverts are actually entertaining enough to not skip
Living in Dartford i always found it weird that we don't seem to be in greater london but yet we still have things that greater london has (such as contactless payment for buses and trains) but we also miss out on some other things avalible to us. Its super strange.
"Poor old Middlesex, already lumbered with a funny name, was gobbled up almost entirely by Greater London
and the remaining bits were ceded to neighbouring Surrey and Hertfordshire.
As a result, since 1965, Middlesex is no longer a thing..."
My husband and I both interjected, exclaimed "There's one in North Carolina!"
Thanks for such a neat-o show, and for having us rowdy-some over!
There's one in Virginia too.
One in Massachusetts, one in New Jersey, one in Ontario, and one in Jamaica.
That's all.
@@artisiole325 And one in my car which I declare to be the automotive kingdom of middlesex
Only Jay Foreman can make a fan want to watch his Skillshare ads at the end !
I still enjoy the Great Courses Plus promo where he's coughing in a bed... I can't remember the video, and I haven't signed up for the Great Courses Plus, but I am more inclined to support him on Patreon.
Theres that advert spinning thing before the add, reminds me when i was young and on itv they used to do that.
You can support my channel (and see my new videos before anyone else!) by clicking on www.patreon.com/jayforeman.
I love your videos keep up the good work
ps I'm not British I live in America I just enjoy learning about the UK
I'm gay for Beast
Map Men please
This should have been a Map Men!
Please upload more often 🙏
Absolutely love these Cameos you put in, like how Ashens was in the team made by Sir Edwin Herbert
I like how at 3:45 he pretty much threw the cardboard cut out of London at the two police officers
@Roderick storey it hits the horse's head at 3:47
It's VFX, it bounces off the horse's head before landing on the floor and disappearing.
lol
listen on headphones for the unmistakeable sound of horse distress
@@includenull Really? You think so?
That London shape cardboard hit the horse in the head when he threw it. 3:43
WOW REALLY? THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THAT FOR THOSE WITHOUT EYES!
its VFX
I didn't see! Glad someone pointed it out
Why spend time in 3d bs just 4 that one joke
hydro bubbles23 thats what jay foreman does
2:57 - “Gibraltar not London” YOU DON’T SAY?!?
Don't let the spanish hear you say that.
@@Isambardify Did someone called me?
Well spotted
@@miangel02 SHIT
It says Staines! I live in staines.
I was born in 1958, near Ilford, which was then in Essex, although when I was 4 1/2 in late 1962 to Hornchurch, also then in Essex but the boundaries were changed whilst we still lived there. I was seven in 1965, so did not understand politics, but I do remember Dad having to get a new fireplace because we had become a smokeless zone [this was explained, I could understand that it meant we could no longer burn coal]. My father had grown up in Barking also in the Essex/London area, and my grandmother continued to live there most of the rest of her life. When my parents sent her a letter or card they still addressed the envelopes ''Barking, Essex''. When I was 8 we moved to Gravesend in Kent, a few miles outside the Greater London Area, and we moved again when I was 10 to St Leonards in Sussex, on the coast. We have lived in St Leonards or neighbouring Hastings ever since, with several local moves.
Perhaps someone could confirm or correct this, that the pre-1965 boundary between Essex and London County was the River Lee which goes through modern Newham [a borough which was created in 1965], so East Ham was Essex and West Ham was London County.
At 1:54 - “The commission was notable for not containing any one with previous involvement in local government of London area” Doesn’t surprise me at all😂😂
What is it with brits and their obsession of drawing lines on land which they don’t understand. Cyril Radcliffe, who drew India Pakistan border, had never lived in British India and had absolutely no idea of Indian demography. After he did draw the line, he left India before the borders were made public, fearing for his life.
Hey, at least they didn't just draw straight lines and call it a day... Funny as it would have been...
Lines, maps, pencils its all just so attractive to us we cant help but start drawing randomly
I'll always think of John Oliver's description of this phenomenon:
"I don't need to go there! How hard could this bloody be?"
@@naphackDT the lines were already there as districts, the decision was about which districts of punjab and begal went to which country
I wonder if the intent was to keep politicians from trying to draw lines to their benefits (jerrymandering). Get people from the outside normal deadlocked partisan politics to form the council.
Doesn't mean they knew what they were doing, just that they were maybe less compromised/deadlocked than people in politics.
2:32
wonderful WATFORD
delightful DARTFORT
*SLOUGH*
dartford ain't too delightful from a bexley fan
Sexy Slough
I loved the CGPGrey reference :)
What reference???
Oh! Surprised I missed that.
did he just hit a police horse with a chunk of cardboard at 3:43?
@@internetguy7965 "But that's a story for another time" at 3:54
It's nice that you have this little thing you can do with your friends.
Today is one of my 5 favourite days of the year (One of Jay's 5 yearly upload days).
This isn't a dish, Jay's videos are sooooooooooo good that they take at least 2 months 2 make and I'm sooooooooooo happy when they come out.
2:55 now I know why Gibraltar isn't in London
And Leatherhead.
Edit: Wait,It's a town in Surrey. Not a horror franchise character.
Fuck thought I was the first to notice haha fair play
The fact that Stuart Ashen is in this video makes me happy :-)
Honestly didn't recognise him without the sofa lol
4:00 London: Haha! April fools your now a Londoner!
Since 1965 there were numerous *small* changes to the Greater London area. One which always stands out for me is Arkley which reverted to Hertfordshire back in 1991. At 6:06 we can see that stray triangle pointing north near Barnet. Also Greater London did not share a border with Berkshire until 1995.
All true. We considered including these facts, but couldn’t find a way of getting them into our story.
Wheres Arkley?
Arkley is still in London. The area you're talking about that was transferred to Hertfordshire is a patch of farmland bordered by some roads that separate it from the rest of that county.
The Richard Soames goes : heb heb heb
The Dan Bull says: goes: hep hep hep
The Stuart Ashen goes: hab hab hab
and the PAUL KENDLER goes: nom nom *noms chocolate*
Hey! Where did you find a copy of our script?
Hannah Witton goes wot
Playing with London`s Willy like that at the start is just not on.
Nyjawonder chessington appendage of adventures 🤣
It's not a willy. It's a clit.
Simon the fuck
Please stop making me read this
What are you doing step-borough
This is such a great video, you really can see how much effort has been put into it! Thank you very much!
Wait
1st April 1965
What if London’s border is just one massive April fools prank
What you mean, "if"?
⁹⁶²⁸⁰⁰⁰⁰ people live there tho
hahahahaha
Problaby not. The congress dosent mess up.
There’s no Congress in the uk
No way is my primary school teacher Mrs Foreman featured in the video at 5:24?!?! I'm assuming she's your mother? Bloody awesome, she was a great teacher when I was younger!
Yep! It's the very same Mrs. Foreman. Just called her, and she says remembers you and your sister Hannah, and she says hello to you both.
@@JayForeman No way really?!??! That is so lovely of her -- tell her we both say hello back! Hope you're all well in the current climate!
And my mother Sally says hello too -- she fondly remembers Cookie doing parties at our house!
Aww, that's cute 😊
Is it normal in the UK to be unbothered by your ex teacher on the toilet😂 you mom is boss for this btw
Those newspapers at 3:15 are hilarious to me. FOOTBALL! It's on again! Rik Mayal born! And those poor Kent children mauled by the Surrey Panther.
The Surrey Panther! That was actually a thing, when I was a kid in Surrey in the 60s!
No, wait, faulty memory: that was the Surrey Puma. Got its own wikipedia page!
And the newspaper was called Kent flaps 😂😂
Lol and the guy with the Kent one was Tom.
Would be funny as well if there was a message: Queen Elizabeth II still rules. She still does since then.
For a moment, I forgot who I was watching, and was totally buying into the "Problem Solver 3000".
The scream when she was faced with a problem she couldn't solve is the highlight of the whole video for me.
Short but very sweet. Great entertainment. And educational, too. Teaches much about the epic British skill for "muddling through".
0:42 False, Greater London has never been a size so small that a man can hold and display it comfortably.
FACTS!
good to know that gibraltar is Not London
Or is it?
@@ivuldivul Well, it could be Spain.
@@denelson83 But it isn't. The Gibraltarians would revolt.
Yet...
The world is a better place with you and your content in it.
My parents were born in Essex in the 50s, and then became Londoners in 1964. I grew up in the same part of East London, but I always thought of Ilford, Barking, Dagenham etc as being Essex (a childhood of addressing envelopes to relatives who lived in those areas!) I only realised they had been London all along a few years ago 😲
My friend was born in 50s Essex and became a Londoner when she was 8. She doesn't think of herself as a Londoner (although she is).
I didn't know ashens was the professor of government at the University of Manchester. Lovely.
Zachary Snyder He’s kept that quiet, hasn’t he?
That's clearly Simon Pegg
Several years before he was born at that
Note: A small part of Hertfordshire was transferred to Greater London as well. It is in the borough of Enfield.
Actually it was a rather large chunk of Hertfordshire, and it’s all in the borough of Barnet. We considered including that, but the video already felt a bit too long.
3:55 I see you held up on the promise, unlike most CGP Grey stories for another time.
Yay, someone else noticed. He even got the music
The biggest mystery for me is how you are so funny. None of the jokes you make should be funny on paper but they’re all hilarious.
I think that’s probably a sign of genius.
I know it doesn't, but at 3:44 it looks like London hits the mounted police officer on the helmet, hahaha
I think he did
That’s actually crazy
Looks like it hit them on the horse, and I think I heard a faint neigh in response lol
I think it did hit the horse lol
Thats the point, its a joke
Ye! I'm so addicted to this series.
its like a cocaine addiction, if cocaine only had like 10 videos...
The girl acting as the “Problem Solver 3000” could participate more. I thought she was hilarious. Also, keep up the good work! It is one of my favorite channels, I can’t stop watching Politics Unboringed. You have a big fan here in South America (Brazil) 😊
I know I’m late but where are from in brasil
I’m from belo horizonte
I finally found him!
I've been scouring your video catalogue for hours looking for where i remembered that Sir Edwin fellow from and he's here!
He's in a few different comedy things on TV and online and I never remember his real name.