@@mangonel Mind you, Gandhi would also go and say that TWest is taking the Pacifism a bit too far. He was straight up of the opinion that if the option is between being killed by an oppressor and fighting back lethally against said oppressor, one MUST be willing to fight back. Nonviolence is what one must strive for....but if nonviolence is not an option, be willing to fight and die to oppose them. AKA Fighting off the people invading your nation or trying to kill you would to Ghandi not be a violation of pacifism. In fact, he explicitly argued it was an inherent requirement for a pacifist to do so.
@@Daedwartin2 well, thats exactly what TWest did. When pacifism was not an option at the battle of sterling, he fought back violently. It was only years later that he rectified this act of violence and found a peaceful solution.
even though you had to kill the english at the battle of stirling, ive gotta give you props for succeeding at the archer-missed-arrow-demo-raft strategy
Miciso I don't think it's a glitch, some players use the delete key to time their raft exploding so it wouldn't make sense to make that not count as kills!
For what it's worth, you deserve to consider this a total victory just for the mental gymnastics and time spent in pulling off the demo-raft + misfire combo. We'll tell people the true story, of how they technically brought it on themselves...
Morale of this challenge: you can't get freedom without taking lives and its in tutorial. Well done game editors! ps. I would love see opposite challenge: where you need to win without deaths on your side + you can't build castles(or just make one in some place where it can't kill nobody or as low number as possible). Have fun :)
Pretty much the only thing that has ever really annoyed me about DE, even more than the melee unit pathing, is the changing of the voice actors. I had the voice lines memorized and its just so grating to hear the "more realistic", I think they called them, voices.
I think #2 is completely impossible, since you must kill Kushluk. You have no allies to do the dirty work, and you can't convert him since he's a hero.
T-West: "Is It Possible to Win the William Wallace Campaign Without Killing Enemy Units?" Aang: "Is It Possible to Win the Last Airbender Campaign Without Killing Enemy Units?"
Before DE, you could win Research and Technology with a Wonder instead of fighting that second raid. Now it seems like you can't go to Castle Age anymore. Thanks DE.
thanks mr t west and lots of it for your efforts and i personally would not even judge you for not doing the impossible so you do not need to explain anything to us and by the way your way of thinking and the analyzing you do for your videos will surely payoff so good luck and keep exploiting the new possibilities
Who would have thought that the learn to play campaign is the first to defeat the power of pacifism, but then again that's the english for you. Also do you know somewhere the relic teleport bug is explained? I've searched and found everything but the one you described.
“Teach ‘em a lesson with your new men at arms!” That old narrator is bringing back so many great memories from 1998 when I was 11 and played the age of kings demo which was on a cd that came with a pc magazine my dad bought. The demo just had the William Wallace campaign, I must have played it 100 times before my mum and dad finally bought me the full game. I so wish there was a mod for DE that changed it back to the original voice acting from the age of kings and the conquerors campaigns.
Last scenario - I remember the long time I had to play to win this as a kid, building double lines of stone walls to hold before I could have all the upgrades to create a powerful enough army
challenge accepted. Well, according to my "30 seconds of research", T90 was born 1993. AoK was released in 1999 which means, T90 would have been around 6 years old at that point. I doubt that he sounded like this when he was 6. 11
I love how this is not just separate episodes but that it always starts at the moment the last one ended! Great job though there was one tricky campaign. Maybe someone will find a solution in the comments
Dude I love this content and also your other content, I'm so thankful I found you because of the pacifist series. There's just something so relaxing about watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
I think it was admiral that T-West tried hard not to kill anyone at the Battle of Stirling. 7:38 What is impossible to man is possible to love. I believe in love. I believe in you. William was not worthy of your pacifist ways.
I seem to remember that some of this missions would have some enemy soldier far out when there was no combat invloved in the original version. You can use the Marco and Polo cheat to see outside and he should be in some corner
Wow some of these bugs are very fortunate. For example today most games would probably look for the closest available navmap position next to the intended spawn, so you cannot simply block it anymore.
F for those brave Britons who died in Sterling. Actually, I made Falfirk pacifist mode by fast castle, building a castle and sending William's army to their castle.
@T-West There are previous versions of AOEII where the kill count was not working correctly. Maybe take advantage of that? forums.ageofempires.com/t/kills-count-dont-increase-after-the-34793-update/67987/ Alternatively, I recommend tweaking the rules to permit towers/castles to kill. The stats screen will count them as kills but at least there is plausible deniability there. After all, there's no unit you can point the finger at. Who shot the arrow anyway? I tend to think of towers and castles as amorphous automatons. It's not your fault the unit waltzed right into an arrow trap.
i love that you keep switching back to HD just for the superior voice acting. i'm so confused as to why they replaced all of it with way worse VO work in DE
Love this content so much. Quality production and outside the box thinking. Can you tell me the source of your accent, I cant place it. Keep making these please!! 104
Originally you can go to post imp at the forth scenario (of course you should cheat resources because there's isn't enough in the map to do so). Just delay researching man at arms indefinitely. I had a blast with that level being 12 years old.
I swear, each of your pacifist videos makes me more calmer and peacefull than before I watched it. Are you by chance transmitting some Secret message;)
I played today I executed that vinchester rush on arena as ethiopians but he escaped that rush.. He insanely microed me He took a bunch of eagles and ran to the west wall... My crossbows were distracted and he opened the east wall with petards and rushed in with jaguars...man i lost But i won an archipelago as Magyars Just i followed that bo Waiting for Attila
I swear the 3:26 guy sounds like BBQTurkman. I think i can make out a faint australian accent. Anyway, who could have guessed the tutorial campaing would be the bloodiest one, even beating the world famous savagely brutal Mongols! PD: i miss the super hype original narrator if just for the nostalgia factor
“They may take our lives but they will never take our pacifism” - William Gandhi
you never saw gandhi in sid miers civilization
@@mangonel Mind you, Gandhi would also go and say that TWest is taking the Pacifism a bit too far. He was straight up of the opinion that if the option is between being killed by an oppressor and fighting back lethally against said oppressor, one MUST be willing to fight back. Nonviolence is what one must strive for....but if nonviolence is not an option, be willing to fight and die to oppose them.
AKA Fighting off the people invading your nation or trying to kill you would to Ghandi not be a violation of pacifism. In fact, he explicitly argued it was an inherent requirement for a pacifist to do so.
@@silvanmoses9122 ah yes, nuclear ghandi
@@Daedwartin2 well, thats exactly what TWest did. When pacifism was not an option at the battle of sterling, he fought back violently. It was only years later that he rectified this act of violence and found a peaceful solution.
Well, he caused an everlasting violence by agreeing to form 2 countries with centuries of rivalry
"11 lives lost..."
The 31 Scottish militia that also got killed: Am I a joke to you?
oy! Lets make Scottish lives matter movement :D
T-West like: new phone who dis?
dude i literally read 11 lives lost in sync with him saying it
killed pacifists do not count as kills. becuase they are pacifist kills. yes.
even though you had to kill the english at the battle of stirling, ive gotta give you props for succeeding at the archer-missed-arrow-demo-raft strategy
honestly that should count as suicide.
not kills.
maybe devs will ''fix'' this glitch and he will reclaim his pacifism.
Miciso I don't think it's a glitch, some players use the delete key to time their raft exploding so it wouldn't make sense to make that not count as kills!
@@lukenawrocki5042 Come on, it would be hilarious. Dis-owning mangonels by deleting it is a thing, why not demo rafts?
For what it's worth, you deserve to consider this a total victory just for the mental gymnastics and time spent in pulling off the demo-raft + misfire combo. We'll tell people the true story, of how they technically brought it on themselves...
6:29 A British archer hiding in the woods? He's gotta be the legendary Robin Hood. That's why you failed the pacifism method.
This is a fun series, hope you keep it up beyond Genghis as well!
the easiest turns out the most difficult. irony is life
That opening line sends me back 20 years to my childhood
F for my English bois, they were just chilling with their tower
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F
F from Germany
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T-West: Finishes Gengish Khan campaign without killing any units
Gengish Khan's bones: *Triggered*
@@mangonel "My people cherish the legend that their great ruler will one day return to lead his horsemen to another bloody victory."
@@T-West Shit bro.. Dont even try to do that challange. Last thing i wanna see in 2020 is angry Gengish Khan in flesh
Kill Kushluk without killing him? I
thought people die when they are killed!
Inb4 "can you beat ghengis Khan's campaign while killing every soldier."
@@daa3930 friendly fire Mangonels might work.
Morale of this challenge: you can't get freedom without taking lives and its in tutorial. Well done game editors!
ps. I would love see opposite challenge: where you need to win without deaths on your side + you can't build castles(or just make one in some place where it can't kill nobody or as low number as possible). Have fun :)
I miss the old voice acting :(
The new one sounds more like an actual Scottish narrator though
The new one lacks the emotion of the original. "Don't forget, keep exploring the map" :(
The old voice has the fakest accent!
As do I
Well... the new one is a more accurate accent... so it is 100% nostalgia but yeah I like old one too
Pretty much the only thing that has ever really annoyed me about DE, even more than the melee unit pathing, is the changing of the voice actors. I had the voice lines memorized and its just so grating to hear the "more realistic", I think they called them, voices.
the biggest annoyance is the joan of orleans... i cant stand them.
for me its the change of the "you are victorious" fanfare. The old fanfare was just so much more epic and intense ....
Speedrunners playing The Battle of Falkirk:
You are avoiding the gengis khan campaign, right?
I think #2 is completely impossible, since you must kill Kushluk. You have no allies to do the dirty work, and you can't convert him since he's a hero.
@@felixcroc true
Saving the best for last ;)
@@felixcroc Forget #2, you can't even get through #1 - one of the objectives is literally to destroy one of the tribes, and you have no monks.
@@T-West Now I'm curious to see how you handle that.
"11 lives lost."
Your 31 dead men: are we a joke to you?!
Fun fact first time I played it when it said "right click near the flag" I click in the right side of the flag for like 3 days
T-West: "Is It Possible to Win the William Wallace Campaign Without Killing Enemy Units?"
Aang: "Is It Possible to Win the Last Airbender Campaign Without Killing Enemy Units?"
When those 11 units were killed and the pacifism run ended I felt like my life wasn't worth living anymore. Never before have I felt such loss.
Might I suggest enlisting as a militiamen in TWest's army?
You have 11 likes
The number of the day is 11, but we're not laughing...
Aoe 2 have such good tutorial they even teach you " even in pacifism you might have to kill someone"
As a citizen of Mongolia I'll wait for pacifist route on Genghis Khan campaign with great intrest
Last time I was this early Scotland was still an indepentend state
Before DE, you could win Research and Technology with a Wonder instead of fighting that second raid. Now it seems like you can't go to Castle Age anymore. Thanks DE.
thanks mr t west and lots of it for your efforts and i personally would not even judge you for not doing the impossible so you do not need to explain anything to us and by the way your way of thinking and the analyzing you do for your videos will surely payoff so good luck and keep exploiting the new possibilities
Who would have thought that the learn to play campaign is the first to defeat the power of pacifism, but then again that's the english for you.
Also do you know somewhere the relic teleport bug is explained? I've searched and found everything but the one you described.
Here's an explanation of the bug: ruclips.net/video/BOwh5AFBHZ0/видео.html
"How many people have you killed ?"
" 11 . "
"How much has it cost ?"
"Everything... "
“Teach ‘em a lesson with your new men at arms!” That old narrator is bringing back so many great memories from 1998 when I was 11 and played the age of kings demo which was on a cd that came with a pc magazine my dad bought. The demo just had the William Wallace campaign, I must have played it 100 times before my mum and dad finally bought me the full game. I so wish there was a mod for DE that changed it back to the original voice acting from the age of kings and the conquerors campaigns.
Last scenario - I remember the long time I had to play to win this as a kid, building double lines of stone walls to hold before I could have all the upgrades to create a powerful enough army
this gave me flashbacks of my first time playing aoe2. sneaking in the night on the pc to finish the mission is still one of my favorit gaming memory
Mr West this video series is SO entertaining. Nice nod to the madly enthusiastic original narrator too!
Digging this series, thanks for the content!
F for the 11 English men....
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Such creativity for a series. Congratulations, man.
It's awesome that you keep it short, comprehensive and above all, interesting..
The new "good, you found some gold" sounds like T90, prove me wrong
challenge accepted. Well, according to my "30 seconds of research", T90 was born 1993. AoK was released in 1999 which means, T90 would have been around 6 years old at that point. I doubt that he sounded like this when he was 6. 11
I love how this is not just separate episodes but that it always starts at the moment the last one ended! Great job though there was one tricky campaign. Maybe someone will find a solution in the comments
I want to know who did that place holder audio. Man gave it his all and helped create the best game ever made.
That's it dude, it may not be much but its official, you are my favorite aoe youtuber and one of my favorites overall!
I look forward to your next video with excitement! This series has been really fun to watch.
keep going with these series, they are really entertaining. Do however revisit sterling would you learn any trickery down the road of pacifism.
Who would have thought the tutorial campaign will be a defeat
this keeps getting better and better
What a great effort you doing man omg keep it up!
Those 11 lives...
😭😭😭😭😭
I have just discovered your videos and wow! They are amazing and super well done. Great job bro!! Please keep the series coming!!
I knew the speedrun strats would have to be utilized for this one. Still love it though, I'm very excited to see you attempt Genghis Khan and El Cid
This is thr first video of yours that Ive watched, and I was still heartbroken that 11 lives were lost at Sterling...
10:35 "We can't kill them in return, because that would be killing them."
I see you've gone to the Shirou school of "People die when they are killed."
Mind boggling research! Thanks a lot!
3:56 love that voice crack
Can’t wait for more of these!!!
A true legend
It's a little sad that Conquerors had better voice acting... Wish they kept original campaign audio for DE
really appreciate this ,, specially u used original narrator voice. feeling nostalgic
Dude I love this content and also your other content, I'm so thankful I found you because of the pacifist series. There's just something so relaxing about watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
This channel is underrated
the fact that it was the tutorial that was the snag surprises me LOL
also didn't know you could prevent spawns by putting people on the spawn spots
Love this series, keep it up!
Big F for those 11 english lives! We shall grieve alongside their families
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The battle of Stirling was but a glorious defeat for Wallace
7:39 top ten anime sad moments :(
This is so delightfully silly, I love it!
An army marches on its stomach, or so the old saying goes.
You didn’t kill them, it’s just they have been grievously wounded.
Only AOE 2 channels I’m subscribed to: ViperAOE, T90, Spiritofthelaw, and you my friend
It's like the whole game was designed to be like this and u are the one who discover it.
You have the same enthusiasm as the HD narrator
The devs should add wildlife to that scenario. I would love to see you try letting their archers hit a boar or smth
It's no coincidence that 11 units died, the scenario designers are laughing at our pacifism ways!!!
I think it was admiral that T-West tried hard not to kill anyone at the Battle of Stirling. 7:38 What is impossible to man is possible to love. I believe in love. I believe in you. William was not worthy of your pacifist ways.
I seem to remember that some of this missions would have some enemy soldier far out when there was no combat invloved in the original version. You can use the Marco and Polo cheat to see outside and he should be in some corner
Yup, that was the original technique to prevent the computer players from being defeated.
7:31 English kills: Nice
Good Luck With Kushluk!
Wow some of these bugs are very fortunate. For example today most games would probably look for the closest available navmap position next to the intended spawn, so you cannot simply block it anymore.
Those were the first 11 lives killed in a war in centuries.. 😭😭
F for those brave Britons who died in Sterling.
Actually, I made Falfirk pacifist mode by fast castle, building a castle and sending William's army to their castle.
F
@T-West
There are previous versions of AOEII where the kill count was not working correctly. Maybe take advantage of that?
forums.ageofempires.com/t/kills-count-dont-increase-after-the-34793-update/67987/
Alternatively, I recommend tweaking the rules to permit towers/castles to kill. The stats screen will count them as kills but at least there is plausible deniability there. After all, there's no unit you can point the finger at. Who shot the arrow anyway? I tend to think of towers and castles as amorphous automatons. It's not your fault the unit waltzed right into an arrow trap.
i love that you keep switching back to HD just for the superior voice acting. i'm so confused as to why they replaced all of it with way worse VO work in DE
As a french, I still see this as a victory that the first kills are english.
devs should add a sneaky trigger to stirling to allow this kind of run.
This is a good series mate keep on going you can do it for other RTS games if its possible in the future
No
Some day I'll dig out my old Star Trek Armada II CDs :)
No
@@T-West Have to give the AOM campaigns a crack :))
Love this content so much. Quality production and outside the box thinking. Can you tell me the source of your accent, I cant place it. Keep making these please!! 104
Jersey
F for the poor souls of the Battle of Stirling Bridge catastrophe.
F
The way he pronounced stirling killed me ngl. "stairling". as a brit i am disgraced. still love the vids tho XD
Now do the custom ultra hardcore William Wallace campaign without killing anyone ;)
warcraft 3 has nearly the exact same intro as aoe2.
i always found it funny.
;-; The loss of Sterling will never be forgotten. 11/11 Never Forget.
Originally you can go to post imp at the forth scenario (of course you should cheat resources because there's isn't enough in the map to do so). Just delay researching man at arms indefinitely. I had a blast with that level being 12 years old.
A true man of peace
"Wallace, we don't have the forces to waste on your madness!"
"Just.. Just trust me. Trust- trust me." He says wielding a claymore sized Sunflower.
I swear, each of your pacifist videos makes me more calmer and peacefull than before I watched it. Are you by chance transmitting some Secret message;)
A Team Secret message? grassDaut
This series is so insanely good. Lol.
Keep going I love them.
I played today
I executed that vinchester rush on arena as ethiopians but he escaped that rush.. He insanely microed me
He took a bunch of eagles and ran to the west wall... My crossbows were distracted and he opened the east wall with petards and rushed in with jaguars...man i lost
But i won an archipelago as Magyars
Just i followed that bo
Waiting for Attila
I'll definitely try to find a way to lower the 11 units killed
Good!
You found some gold.
You know the tutorial guide in the original game sounds so much more enthusiastic then the guy in DE
I really like the accent of the DE guy though. But it's true, nothing beats the enthusiasm of AoK guy.
I swear the 3:26 guy sounds like BBQTurkman. I think i can make out a faint australian accent.
Anyway, who could have guessed the tutorial campaing would be the bloodiest one, even beating the world famous savagely brutal Mongols!
PD: i miss the super hype original narrator if just for the nostalgia factor
Pewdiepie: zero deaths
T-west:zero kills