At least the newer campaigns kinda curb that rule. A lot of allies tend to be actually active and helpful, all while feeling like a supplement to our success, not the crutch of it
theory, Quetzalcoatl is the distorted story of Jesus visiting the native americans, but the story got distorted as each generation told the next. interesting?
Real-life Aztecs: Believed in the importance of practicing human sacrifice. T-West Aztecs: Believed in the importance of practicing self-sacrifice. Ehh, close enough.
Also kinda funny how they depict the Aztecs as the good guys when in history, the Spaniards lead various meso-american peoples in rebellion against their Aztec tyrants who were unnecessarily cruel to encourage people to rise up and become sacrifices. The Spaniards weren't really good guys either (I can't think of many conquerers that were) but Cortez was a better figure than Columbus.
@@cadunkus Wasn't it that Cortez went to Mexico for the glory and sunk his ships so that none of his men would get the idea of returning back to Cuba to let the governor (and then Spain) know of a ripe land fresh for conquest... Because Cortez wanted the glory and the loot for himself first.
@@stylesrj I also heard that to get there in the first place he'd basically gone AWOL. If I'm remembering correctly, the governor of Cuba might have been his brother, and specifically told him "you're not allowed to go there", but he snuck off with his troops and went, anyway.
@@stylesrj Yes and that's reflected in the campaign. It was also to incentivize his troops in a "cornered rat" kind of way since surrendering would lead to death and fleeing would lead to death.
@@cadunkus But mostly just to avoid having to report back home about his actions until he had established a foothold... and thus be a lot harder to be ordered to return because "Hey look, I found all this cool stuff!"
16:20 The list of techs the enemies get by destroying the Aztec Wonder are... special: - Carrack (Portuguese unique tech): ships +1/+1 armor - Artillery (Turkish unique tech): cannon units +2 range - Kataparuto (Japanese unique tech): Trebuchets pack/unpack 4x faster, fire 33% faster - Fabric Shields (Inca unique tech, used to be Couriers): Eagles +1/+2 armor So according to Age of Empires, the Spanish invaded the Aztecs with the help of the Incas, the Portuguese, the Turks, and the Japanese. But at least the Koreans were nice and gave the Aztecs some nice Turtle Ships.
@@rovsea-3761 No idea how I missed that, you're absolutely right. The Maya join the conspiracy against the Aztec-Korean alliance! I guess it makes sense, the Tlaxcala saw T-West using Monks for pacifism, so they got Eagles with Garland Wars, El Dorado, and Fabric Shields as the ultimate counter.
But wait... aren't those the upgrades the Spanish get for destroying the Wonder... as in that's what they looted from the ruins. That means the Aztecs must have been to Europe in the past in some sort of Sunset Invasion...
@@jamesfowler6785 Its like in the campaign, his title changes as the videos are published: from warmongering pacifist to ethically ambigous strategist and finally, senseless murderer. I pray for the souls of those poor bastards within The Battles of the Conquerors, waiting for T-West to impose his pacifism by the means of extreme brutality.
@@jamesfowler6785 oh, you must be from the alternate timeline where the Scottish ended up killing eleven English soldiers in the battle of Stirling. You see, this actually never happened, its just myths and legends. In truth, the Scottish tried to place a house foundation but second guessed themselves and decided to restart the mission, advance to the castle age and wololo everything.
I love the effort you put into little things, like the east-west sign scene at the start. Great work again, T-West! Also, that transition at 14:49 is so cool
As a child when playing it, that scenario took my hours of bloody battles to complete it.... And he did it on 4 minutes, using 3 units and killimg noone ahaha
@@nmgaro2156 Same i thought he will just convert all soldiers while freeing the prisoners and such but, he had a much simplier solution,a more practical one hehe
The destruction of the wonder with the minimum of population is the only "speedrun-tactic" i ever discovered by myself in the classic AoE2. Back then i was really proud of me haha
The production quality in these videos is just stellar. I am not joking that whenever I see one of your pacifist videos my heartrate jumps and I am immediately happy. Thanks so much for making these pieces of art!
Tepaneca: You defied our sacred temple, Aztecs! The gods demand a sacrifice! Montezuma: Quetzalcoatl demands hugs and kisses! There's a reason why the Aztecs lost in history. It's because they were too peaceful to the Spaniards and the locals :(
Even if not doing a pacifist runs, these guides are super helpful to just learn about the scenario triggers and how to make them easier in case you're like me and just majorly suck at this game. Great content!
6:50 Cortés demoted his 2 fellow Cnqistadors riders to villagers ( and the 2 conquistador horses into wild horse ) , made some priests and began converting Tlaxcalan villagers until they had enough and tributed him some resources to make him their ally . He then used the wood & Stone he recieved to make a TC , learnt a build order , built a big town ... and that bring us to the Quetzalcoatl scenario
Can we just agree that how this descendent of Spirit Of The Law managed to do this incredible series of Masterpiece?! He really is the descendent of SOTL!!!
I prefer t-west content over SOTL content any time though. SOTL is pumping out videos en-masse (because its good for the algorithm and you kinda have to do that if you want to do it for a living), whereas t-west seems to take his time. And the difference shows.
I was really looking forward to this campaign, it's one of my favourite campaigns but feel a little cheated in scenario 4. I've tried that rush strat but clearly nowhere near as well as you and was kinda curious how you were going to go doing it the long way. Also I love that you bring in the old voices for some things like the intro when it was better (and i think the scenario 5 voice actor for creating a bombard is way bette rin the original, had a lot more energy). Also gold island continuity is a better story, i like that the map is the same in 4 and 6. Congrats on the not killing anyone. Conquerors battles could be fun and then atila. I know it was possible to not kill bleda in original (as in let the boar kill him) but haven't gotten that to work in de yet. Great campaign looking forward to the next ones love your pacifism series
Its been almost 2 months since this last pacifist campaign! The Blood on Le Hire's sword is almost driiiii! XD (in all seriousness take you time, LOVE these pacifist campaigns and am looking forward to the final 2!)
I've actually done an experiment with Tabasco to see if they ever do get rather strong. I cheated a bit and made an impenetrable defense to make sure they had room to grow and monitored it for about an hour and a half while watching a movie. Unfortunately they barely do anything. At most they make a few Eagle scouts and mostly just a bunch of villagers. I rarely had them attack either enemy. Useless ally indeed, but still fun to have a little friend to defend I suppose.
Dude these are so fun to watch. I've been playing this game for first time and just catched up to Montezuma. It was so hard to stop myself from watching to avoid spoilers.
I got chills when you said "tales passed own to us by Cuauthemoc". What a great game, this was back then, and how am I glad to see that it's better than ever.
I am sooo glad they allowed tobasco or however the village was called not to resign, back in the old edition I did everything I could to keep them alive but weren't able to 😕
nice work mr t west i have been waiting for this the whole month and have been clicking your channel for new vids 7 times a day plus 5 bonus times XD btw love you love yr videos and hope for you to get more and more of your content enjoyers you really work hard to expand this game mechanics to limit
You probably already know this but in La Noche Triste you can do it without even microing. You don't need to pic up extra eagles to jebait and can run straight to the wonder. That even makes it zero kills across the board, forcing pacifism amongst your enemies as well.
Great pacifist run! Really unexpected the fourth scenario. Looking forward to the Battles of the Conquerors and Attila and see how will you do Agincourt, Lepanto, Noryang and specially the Catalaunian Fields.
You really go out of your way to like so many comments. You are one of my favourite RUclipsrs not just aoe2 RUclipsrs. If you make different gaming contents, I think you'll do great.
07:26 "We don't know yet whether the Spanish are pacifists... But here's a hint: they're not." I don't know why but that delivery and the jump cut really got me! 😂
probably because its annoying to deal with bombard towers when playing aztecs. I mean, you can land with rams and ram a tower down ... but it's still annoying xD
Not sure if you already know this, if you defeat blue and purple first, red automatically resigns (only in DE, this should save you a lot of time). I thought it was a bug, until I replayed it 2 years later and it's still like this.
When I first saw this campaign 4 months ago , I thought It was a campaign dedicated to Moteukwsoma I Seriously , they should have done that instead of Moteukwsoma II
"They are two types of allies in AOE2:
1. They betray you
2. They are useless"
Damn that's very accurate lol
3. They betray you and are useless even as enemies.
and those who start as enemies who beat the living shit out of you and once you pay them to become your allies, they become useless (dos pilas, jihad)
4- they'll remain useless allies if you keep throwing gold at them. If you don't, then they'll betray you
At least the newer campaigns kinda curb that rule. A lot of allies tend to be actually active and helpful, all while feeling like a supplement to our success, not the crutch of it
the allies in Alaric which helped you destroy 12 Roman castles were useful tho. they destroyed 8 castles
The Aztecs are really pacifist! Even their human sacrifices didn’t kill anybody
Remember: Deleting your own units counts neither as Units Killed nor as Units Lost.
@@Craken_401 Boy, the sarcasm really flew over your head didn't it
@@kartiksaraf4676 sorry I feel very dumb rn, I didnt see the 0:49 cutscene too
You did kill gaia units, gaia is considered an enemy.
They were sacrificed with Delete.
*Random turtle ships imply Korean presence in North America*
Devs: "Eh, no big deal. 'Gift from the gods' or something."
It also implies that the koreans figured out time travel, given that the turtle ships didn't exist for about 70 years after this campaign.
Mayans are supposed to have fought the Koreans over Texas in the aoe 2 world.
@@Reichthoff OF course. Google finno-korean hyperwar
Just a placeholder
I too would betray my allies if they were walling my buildings
but I would betray them before they finish doing so 11
“Hello sir, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Quetzalcoatl?”
Cit. SoTL
"No, Montezuma, I AM your lord and savior Quetzalcoatl!"
Which Quetzalcoatl?!
The one from Fate or the one from Kobayashi's Dragon Maid?!
@@MALEMization
All of them.
theory, Quetzalcoatl is the distorted story of Jesus visiting the native americans, but the story got distorted as each generation told the next. interesting?
Real-life Aztecs: Believed in the importance of practicing human sacrifice.
T-West Aztecs: Believed in the importance of practicing self-sacrifice.
Ehh, close enough.
Also kinda funny how they depict the Aztecs as the good guys when in history, the Spaniards lead various meso-american peoples in rebellion against their Aztec tyrants who were unnecessarily cruel to encourage people to rise up and become sacrifices.
The Spaniards weren't really good guys either (I can't think of many conquerers that were) but Cortez was a better figure than Columbus.
@@cadunkus
Wasn't it that Cortez went to Mexico for the glory and sunk his ships so that none of his men would get the idea of returning back to Cuba to let the governor (and then Spain) know of a ripe land fresh for conquest...
Because Cortez wanted the glory and the loot for himself first.
@@stylesrj I also heard that to get there in the first place he'd basically gone AWOL. If I'm remembering correctly, the governor of Cuba might have been his brother, and specifically told him "you're not allowed to go there", but he snuck off with his troops and went, anyway.
@@stylesrj Yes and that's reflected in the campaign.
It was also to incentivize his troops in a "cornered rat" kind of way since surrendering would lead to death and fleeing would lead to death.
@@cadunkus
But mostly just to avoid having to report back home about his actions until he had established a foothold... and thus be a lot harder to be ordered to return because "Hey look, I found all this cool stuff!"
"Where we had to get our hands bloody"
Legit first mission is called "Reign of Blood"
"The pacifism we fire from our cannons." That is very American if I may say so.
Freedom is the only way, yeah!
sounds very canadian to me, ngl. Even their mortal weapons shoot world peace.
16:20
The list of techs the enemies get by destroying the Aztec Wonder are... special:
- Carrack (Portuguese unique tech): ships +1/+1 armor
- Artillery (Turkish unique tech): cannon units +2 range
- Kataparuto (Japanese unique tech): Trebuchets pack/unpack 4x faster, fire 33% faster
- Fabric Shields (Inca unique tech, used to be Couriers): Eagles +1/+2 armor
So according to Age of Empires, the Spanish invaded the Aztecs with the help of the Incas, the Portuguese, the Turks, and the Japanese. But at least the Koreans were nice and gave the Aztecs some nice Turtle Ships.
Don't forget they get el-dorado as well. So I guess that means tlaxcala would get the ultimate eagle warriors?
@@rovsea-3761 No idea how I missed that, you're absolutely right. The Maya join the conspiracy against the Aztec-Korean alliance! I guess it makes sense, the Tlaxcala saw T-West using Monks for pacifism, so they got Eagles with Garland Wars, El Dorado, and Fabric Shields as the ultimate counter.
But wait... aren't those the upgrades the Spanish get for destroying the Wonder... as in that's what they looted from the ruins.
That means the Aztecs must have been to Europe in the past in some sort of Sunset Invasion...
The Japanese invasion of Korea was also fought in North America, it seems.
@@Leon_Ryu damn the aztecs and koreans were lucky that the teutons didnt join in with their team bonus
You forgot the most dreadful sub-category:
2b = They need babysitting (namely, those you NEED to keep alive while ALSO being useless...)
ahh yes the escort quests of the rts
@@brendanhart517 "Because I love escort missions!"
-Nobody, feb 30 199never
@@shinkiro403 haha this had me laughing but yes it's true..so true
HELP US!!!!11!!! CRUZADER BANDITS ARE AH EVERYWHERE!!!11!!
I’m getting flashbacks to the second Saladin mission...
"Passed down to you by T-West, senseless murderer of AOE2"
More like warmongering pacifist of AOE2
@@carloshuerta5956 it looks like you've come to terms with the lives lost in the William Wallace campaign. I haven't.
@@jamesfowler6785 Its like in the campaign, his title changes as the videos are published: from warmongering pacifist to ethically ambigous strategist and finally, senseless murderer. I pray for the souls of those poor bastards within The Battles of the Conquerors, waiting for T-West to impose his pacifism by the means of extreme brutality.
@@jamesfowler6785 oh, you must be from the alternate timeline where the Scottish ended up killing eleven English soldiers in the battle of Stirling. You see, this actually never happened, its just myths and legends. In truth, the Scottish tried to place a house foundation but second guessed themselves and decided to restart the mission, advance to the castle age and wololo everything.
Reality :- spanish missionaries converting native Americans
T west :- UNO Reverse card
Maybe aztecs indeed lamed their allies... and it got so annoying they betrayed aztecs because of it.
I love the effort you put into little things, like the east-west sign scene at the start. Great work again, T-West!
Also, that transition at 14:49 is so cool
I did nt get the transit part ...
0:14 Tune in to T-East's new AoE2 campaign series where he goes out of his way to kill every last living creature on every mission on the entire game.
I feel like if you were to play 1v1 with 256x mod you’d just keep researching loom and architecture until the other player gets frustrated and resigns
"They either betray us or are useless" Right? Whenever I played the campaign, if an ally started with higher score I knew it was gonna betray me.
Math checks out
Well done ! I was damn suprised that you can just Rush the wonder in mission 4 ! Way to go for the next one T-West !
As a child when playing it, that scenario took my hours of bloody battles to complete it.... And he did it on 4 minutes, using 3 units and killimg noone ahaha
@@nmgaro2156 Same i thought he will just convert all soldiers while freeing the prisoners and such but, he had a much simplier solution,a more practical one hehe
@@nmgaro2156 and it was on hard
13:01 "The Tlaxcala castle is no match for the pacifism we fire from our Bombard Cannons"
This campaign plays out surprisingly similar in pacifist mode and regular gameplay:
Step 1: make Aztec monks
Step 2: profit
"Out of my way pig!"
The destruction of the wonder with the minimum of population is the only "speedrun-tactic" i ever discovered by myself in the classic AoE2.
Back then i was really proud of me haha
The production quality in these videos is just stellar. I am not joking that whenever I see one of your pacifist videos my heartrate jumps and I am immediately happy. Thanks so much for making these pieces of art!
can't wait for the Atilla campaign
I wonder if Bari or Allaric is even possible?
Tepaneca: You defied our sacred temple, Aztecs! The gods demand a sacrifice!
Montezuma: Quetzalcoatl demands hugs and kisses!
There's a reason why the Aztecs lost in history. It's because they were too peaceful to the Spaniards and the locals :(
Quetzalcoatl wanted butterflies and chocolate, so close enough
@@ateium2409 Well, that's plain wrong. It was basically Yahweh.
the reason they lost is because they didn't expect inquisition and were quickly overwhelmed by the spanish conversion speed
6:40 Cortés comes in. T-West: Could he be a fellow pacifist?
Erm ... don't be disappointed but ...
"All 4 monastery's train a monk, and we garrison the relics"
And here's kid me dragging monks across the map from my own base to garrison them. XD
The last Montezuma scenario was the first time I tried to speedrun one when I was a kid
Even if not doing a pacifist runs, these guides are super helpful to just learn about the scenario triggers and how to make them easier in case you're like me and just majorly suck at this game. Great content!
I like to imagine the timeline where TWest completes every major history conflict with the power of pacifism
0:16 Damnnnn
Took me a while to understand what you did there 11
Still does not understand lol
I can't help but be astounded at the level of patience these campaigns must require :D
6:50 Cortés demoted his 2 fellow Cnqistadors riders to villagers ( and the 2 conquistador horses into wild horse ) , made some priests and began converting Tlaxcalan villagers until they had enough and tributed him some resources to make him their ally .
He then used the wood & Stone he recieved to make a TC , learnt a build order , built a big town ... and that bring us to the Quetzalcoatl scenario
I assume he went for a fast imperial build order then (that's also the reason why his economy always sucks)
Can we just agree that how this descendent of Spirit Of The Law managed to do this incredible series of Masterpiece?! He really is the descendent of SOTL!!!
I prefer t-west content over SOTL content any time though. SOTL is pumping out videos en-masse (because its good for the algorithm and you kinda have to do that if you want to do it for a living), whereas t-west seems to take his time. And the difference shows.
Montezuma 1 always was my favourite scenario in the aok and aoc campaigns
I don't know if it is your voice or the theme but your videos are a moment of peace in my day ! Thanks
The Script writing is so epic!!
best moments
6:56
10:38
11:00
15:20
I was really looking forward to this campaign, it's one of my favourite campaigns but feel a little cheated in scenario 4. I've tried that rush strat but clearly nowhere near as well as you and was kinda curious how you were going to go doing it the long way.
Also I love that you bring in the old voices for some things like the intro when it was better (and i think the scenario 5 voice actor for creating a bombard is way bette rin the original, had a lot more energy).
Also gold island continuity is a better story, i like that the map is the same in 4 and 6.
Congrats on the not killing anyone.
Conquerors battles could be fun and then atila. I know it was possible to not kill bleda in original (as in let the boar kill him) but haven't gotten that to work in de yet.
Great campaign looking forward to the next ones love your pacifism series
Loved your take on la noche triste :D
IT'S HEREEEEE❤️ THE WAIT IS OVER
In my experience allies in Aoe campaings fall into one of two categories: 1. They're gonna betray us; 2. They're gonna die.
I love it when he uses Civilization theme songs for background music...
Love the effort you put into your videos, especially your pacifist run and the custom campaigns, wish you the best!!!
Its been almost 2 months since this last pacifist campaign! The Blood on Le Hire's sword is almost driiiii! XD (in all seriousness take you time, LOVE these pacifist campaigns and am looking forward to the final 2!)
I've actually done an experiment with Tabasco to see if they ever do get rather strong. I cheated a bit and made an impenetrable defense to make sure they had room to grow and monitored it for about an hour and a half while watching a movie. Unfortunately they barely do anything. At most they make a few Eagle scouts and mostly just a bunch of villagers. I rarely had them attack either enemy. Useless ally indeed, but still fun to have a little friend to defend I suppose.
Just in time as I was wondering what to watch with a delicious dinner! You're an MVP!
La Noche Triste was beautifully played through
Can't wait for someone at the studio to see this and react to it lol!
I like this new Spirit of the Law... As Aragon would say: "You have my sub."
Dude these are so fun to watch. I've been playing this game for first time and just catched up to Montezuma. It was so hard to stop myself from watching to avoid spoilers.
Really like the dramatic flair you put into the videos
I got chills when you said "tales passed own to us by Cuauthemoc". What a great game, this was back then, and how am I glad to see that it's better than ever.
Tenochtitlán
T-West: Schnoktitlán
I am sooo glad they allowed tobasco or however the village was called not to resign, back in the old edition I did everything I could to keep them alive but weren't able to 😕
In the old version you could speedrun the scenario fast enough to win while they're still alive! ;)
The best series on youtube!
I make it a point to live every video of yours whichever I watch... must say, SIMPLY AMAZING 👏😉
"Out of my way, pig!"
That Jaguar Warrior is brutal.
The Aztecs , Celts and Mayans were well known for regularly deleting their own Units .(including converted ones )
Finally another beautiful run
Dude, after watching this, I think I love you. You have one more sub and one more like
nice work mr t west i have been waiting for this the whole month and have been clicking your channel for new vids 7 times a day plus 5 bonus times XD btw love you love yr videos and hope for you to get more and more of your content enjoyers you really work hard to expand this game mechanics to limit
16:20 The list of techs the enemy receive for destroying your wonder is so nightmarish 11
What techs do they receive?
@@MrMart374 o think eagle warriors
@@MrMart374 carracks+artillery+kataparuto for the spanish and el dorado+fabric shields for the the tlaxcalan.
You probably already know this but in La Noche Triste you can do it without even microing. You don't need to pic up extra eagles to jebait and can run straight to the wonder. That even makes it zero kills across the board, forcing pacifism amongst your enemies as well.
Great pacifist run! Really unexpected the fourth scenario. Looking forward to the Battles of the Conquerors and Attila and see how will you do Agincourt, Lepanto, Noryang and specially the Catalaunian Fields.
You really go out of your way to like so many comments. You are one of my favourite RUclipsrs not just aoe2 RUclipsrs. If you make different gaming contents, I think you'll do great.
t-west you are gaining subs very fast good job!
I laughed the loudest at this one! Keep up the good work!
Awesome and original content! Keep it up! Congrats from Argentina.
Thank you for using the old voice actors. So superior to whatever the heck they were doing in the studio for DE. Jeez.
SOTL and T-West regular uploads? COUNT ME IN
Damn this content is amazing u deserve more subs
Honestly, your play is just too slick bro.
La Hire finds insulting that you said "Montezuma" instead of "Moctezuma"
07:26 "We don't know yet whether the Spanish are pacifists... But here's a hint: they're not."
I don't know why but that delivery and the jump cut really got me! 😂
god i love this channle! it helps a lot, i got 4 missions on gold with achievements only today
when u watch spirit of the law and realize how valuable herbal medicine can be
saw the notification , came instantly :D thanks for the amazing vids
This was a great thank you for uploading this masterpiece
Was hoping you would do this campaign next because this is my favorite campaign Of them all. For now.
This is so interesting! I'll definetly check your videos out!
Amazing production quality
omg the trick of the wonder i never believe this is possible to do this vidéo are juste crazy good
I must say, is really awesome how you complete this campaigns without kills (almost all)
That Wonder snipe shortcut... Bravo
I have no idea how I missed this one! Really enjoy this series!
This is insanity...and yet pure genius!!!
Damn, the Spanish in the 3rd scenario really didn't hold their horses!
The Cortez speech is the best, "I am here for the land and gold, i am not going away, so let me sink these ships"
I have spoken!
Wait wait wait they remove the turtleships easter egg on DE? Literally unplayable
and ironically probably makes the scenario easier; they probably intentionally wanted that 6 range TS in the original
probably because its annoying to deal with bombard towers when playing aztecs. I mean, you can land with rams and ram a tower down ... but it's still annoying xD
Mountain Lie On / Seamus and Chamois my favorite song
They will be quite soon and easier I hope also keep this good work up
14:35 what's strange is that flying fish boat.
awesome! great job once more :D
Not sure if you already know this, if you defeat blue and purple first, red automatically resigns (only in DE, this should save you a lot of time). I thought it was a bug, until I replayed it 2 years later and it's still like this.
Pacifist series has taught me that you can be pacifist only when you know future
Amazing as always !
Dude left to go fishing after you destroyed the wonder. "Well... I tried my best, oh well." XD
When I first saw this campaign 4 months ago , I thought It was a campaign dedicated to Moteukwsoma I
Seriously , they should have done that instead of Moteukwsoma II
I'm happy that you don't need to kill anyone in the strongest pacifist civ. Can't wait for barbarian pacifist of Huns
Excellent episode.
Ur so creative and "humanoid". Love the way u find n finish.