T-West: Other than 2 kills, we have successfully completed the campaign through pacifism! *769 total deaths from this campaign* T-West: I might struggle sleeping at night over those two kills.
I like the sound of that. I never understood when i was a kid playing this first scenario as to why these two had to be taken out through dying if this was a medieval tournament rather than simply submitting once a certain amount of health was depleted. Pretty sure that not all competitors were take in out in real life during such festivities.
But if El Cid had died, he could not have led the army of Pacifism to Toledo, and the slaughter there would continue. Yusuf would have conquered Spain, killing Moors and Spanish alike. And Berenguar would have seized Valencia, killing its people. The question then becomes: how many lives were saved because El Cid killed 2 men under duress?
Potential Pacifism Bonus in Scenario 3: When El Cid is leaving Alfonso's fortress, when a trigger sets your diplomacy towards Alfonso from Ally to Enemy (which causes Alfonso to set you from Ally to Enemy), you can quickly go to the diplomacy menu once Alfonso begins talking to you and set him back to Ally (before he sets you to enemy), ensuring that the two of you will be in peace and that El Cid doesn't even have to destroy Alfonso's Castle near Motamid's city.
That is what he told himself every night denying the dried bones of those 2 innocent men which only followed their king's order and ended up slaughtered mercilessly :)
Wiki says otherwise in one instance. Like he conquered a city and converted all the mosques into churches. Still he was one of the more noble characters historically.
Great job some of these sounded quite tricky! I choose to believe that the two contestants in the beginning were just wounded like la hire and would return safely in the next scenario
3:41 "Frankly, after forcing us to kill two units, King Sancho had it coming." True pacifists know that an eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind.
You wish to play DE version of El Cid? With DE Sancho? I will not alow that. However, if he wishes, I'm sure there's a mod in the Steam Workshop, T-West?
Ahh too bad for the Two tournament guys, but i mean those were in a tournament right ? like both parties agreed to fight to the death, we could agree on that they were nessesary for El Cid to vow on pacifism afterwards, Superb video T-West ! (Are you going to do all the conquerors solo-battles? like in a compliation or something ?) Waiting on for the next one for more Pacifism !
you deserve way more followers. The commentary and quality is on point. keep up the good work. its rly interesting too watch even for me which isnt even playing aoe2 at the moment.
13:49 "Inquisition proves to be a valuable aide, as it yields fast conversions against 11th century gunpowder units." ... Please pour some out for the souls of any halfway-history buffs whose souls just died a lot right there.
JA! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is Pacifisim! And Distraction! I mean, our TWO chief weapons are Pacifisim and Distraction! And Wololo! ...Damm it! This is it, our chief weaponS are Pacifism, Distraction and Wololo! And an outstanding content creator!
I'm starting to love this series :) so creative, being a game devloper myself, it's just facinating how players can totally turn games on their head to create their own :)
They're injured cause it was a friendly tournament, i believe they fainted from the exhausting fight instead of being killed and that's the resolve we have for pacifism lol
I have to say, I'm really enjoying this series. Not only is it entertaining, I'm learning a lot about the game mechanics. I never realized, for instance, that conversion times can carry over from one unit to another.
Great as always. El Cid 5 is one of the hardest scenarios for me. Last night used the info from your Genghis Khan video to get all the achievements for it, hopefully this will be enough to get through the fight with Berenger. It's currently the only scenario I don't have gold of the AoC scenarios.
That were not kills in the first Szenario, that were just training and those to guys returned happily back to their families after. But when i think about it, you could have enforced pacifism more with the missionaries, as they are more unexpected than the spanish inquisition.
As a kid I didn't know english and my aoe2 conquerors expansion was on english so I just killed the first champion on foot and then took babieca and run away. Sancho would declare me as enemy but I could still go and have the serfs join me. Maybe you could have just killed one of the champions at the tournament, or maybe that's been changed on DE version.
Ah, they didn't join me when I had just the foot version of El Cid, but maybe those triggers would still work with the horse version. Either way, I think the condition of bringing King Sancho back to the tournament grounds still wouldn't be activated.
king of valencia is honestly not that difficult. It feels intimidating, yes but berenguer is lacking a LOT of blacksmith upgrades, never gets heresy or faith and is pretty weak to both monks and conqs - especially monks. Those bombard towers are annoying tho
I can't imagine how many hours that took how many times you had to restart a mission after a unit accidentally killed an enemy. Well done, definitely worth a subscribe
I literally stopped the game I was playing when I got the notification for this video on my phone! Entertaining as always! I'm surprised you didn't use the missionaries more, since their increased mobility seemed to address the monk's biggest weakness, though I guess monks have greater range. Also, depending on the scenario, I don't think you always need to delete castles immediately, getting conscription, trebs and unique techs is really useful and you shouldn't have to worry too much about the castles killing anyone if you don't pick up the extra range techs and the castle itself is located at the back of your base.
The extra range of Monks is just extremely important. The one use I did find for Missionaries is converting Trebs and Rams, since they need to be adjacent to them and the range doesn't matter.
@@T-West Fair enough, though I imagine being able to dance missionaries back and forth avoiding bombard cannon fire would have come in handy in The Lion and the Demon ;)
I definitely was not expecting this series to continue so soon, I do believe this is like seeing the god returning to mount Olympus. Btw really pumped, Montezuma is my favorite campaign in all of AoE.
That's an interesting trigger about removing the monks and depending on the horse el cid for the victory condition. Also did not know you could go the back way into the base and it was wide open lol. Interesting conditions on the other scenarios, I never bothered with the transports so I didn't know they had that impact.
Oh, I just deleted some of the units and buildings for King Sancho so I could see what happens when heading back. There are indeed several Castles and an army defending the tournament grounds.
In King of Valencia, once you enter Denia, you can use your villagers to quickly wall up the fortress from where the units attacking Denia come from. Once that is done, they don't attack you and you just need to set Denia to enemy to destroy the gate on the bridge, and then repeat everything you did after crossing, except Berenguer won't attack you with a large army. So you can peacefully build up trebuchets and all and destroy berenguer's base. After that you can simply delete the walls you built earlier which will trigger the scenario to play normally. Thus you will have an easier time finishing it off pacifistly
15:16 The first of our opponents is Cyan. They train siege and cavalry archers. The arrows can't kill our rams. So, we use a market to balance our economy and train some siege. But we can't let their rams kill our rams. Instead we are going to need a trap. And in this scenario we have the best trap of all...... DA FISH TRAP!!!
I actually like how you portrayed Alphonso as the good guy in your pacifist AoE2 universe (ar first at least, the guy is just irredeemable even by pacifist standards)
You could capture the monastery at the first mission and make two monks because you have 200 gold no? Equally is a good video and I enjoyed every second, good job!
The 4th is way easier when you Wall el cid and Alfonso somewhere at the left Edge in the mountains and send two villagers with a Scout to cite the enemys Units near to the church of the Green on the sea. Then Just build a bunch of firegalleys and destroy the docks.
What is surprising from this T West guy is that not only he do a pacifist/least kills run, but he also does all of that (along with Joan and Barbarossa campaign) in Hard difficulty this entire time! This guy need more attention more than what he get now, for all these achievement he gets!
The best bit of the video was the trebuchet destroying the outpost in time with the music crescendo at 11:59, was that godlike editting or just divine luck?
It took a few years, but I came up with a better solution for doing King Sancho's tournament: ruclips.net/video/MPEOAbHMmCw/видео.htmlfeature=shared
T-West: Other than 2 kills, we have successfully completed the campaign through pacifism!
*769 total deaths from this campaign*
T-West: I might struggle sleeping at night over those two kills.
I might do an Immortals Campaign where I attempt to win scenarios with no losses's
I think you could've used "torpedo3" to avoid "kill" twice. 1st time for champion second time for knight.
@@kirti98 cheats aren't part of the challenge, they where only used to test out what is needed to win
Actually since it’s a tournament, they only got knocked unconscious ;)
That's not what the Achievements screen tells me :'(
Ya they only fainted and just need a few beeps at the Pokémon Center
@@T-West If it works for LA HIRE then it works for El Cid
Like La Hire if vanquished in Cleansing of the Loire!
Especially because it's a tournament, those fellas (and the horse) are dead.
Your story telling is as good as these pacifist runs, and that's actually a very high bar!
If you joined an esports team, would your name become "Apro Razak"?
i believe they are just injured, like la Hire.
Their fighting spirits may have died, but their bodies were carried back to the castle and nursed back to full health.
Absolutely!
I like the sound of that. I never understood when i was a kid playing this first scenario as to why these two had to be taken out through dying if this was a medieval tournament rather than simply submitting once a certain amount of health was depleted. Pretty sure that not all competitors were take in out in real life during such festivities.
A true pacifist would have let El Cid die in the tournament of champions. 1 death is less than 2 :)
But if El Cid had died, he could not have led the army of Pacifism to Toledo, and the slaughter there would continue. Yusuf would have conquered Spain, killing Moors and Spanish alike. And Berenguar would have seized Valencia, killing its people. The question then becomes: how many lives were saved because El Cid killed 2 men under duress?
@@cdcdrr Sounds like another trolley problem.
cdcdrr Utilitarianism ftw
Besides, the question is whether we can WIN the scenario, and killing El Cid always results in defeat.
@@T-West The answer to the trolley problem is Multi Track Drifting
T-West: "gonna have a break of these Pacifist Campaign"
Also T-West: *Uploads a video the next week*
Pacifism is one hell of a drug
This clearly wasn’t a pacifist upload, he killed two people in the first mission. That’s two more murders than most of us have committed
Potential Pacifism Bonus in Scenario 3:
When El Cid is leaving Alfonso's fortress, when a trigger sets your diplomacy towards Alfonso from Ally to Enemy (which causes Alfonso to set you from Ally to Enemy), you can quickly go to the diplomacy menu once Alfonso begins talking to you and set him back to Ally (before he sets you to enemy), ensuring that the two of you will be in peace and that El Cid doesn't even have to destroy Alfonso's Castle near Motamid's city.
I wasn't expecting the pacifist runs back yet, but I'm pleasantly surpriesed!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Nobody expect the Spanish (pacifistic) Inquisition!
Of course you weren’t expecting a pacifist run for the Spanish campaign!
New voice isn't bad but HD voice was so much better...
"A splendid sight, now return to the task at hand,"
There were no kills. Those two from the tournament were just wounded. They are safe and sound.
They're just pining for the Fjords
Exactly! Tournament deaths were very rare, after all
That is what he told himself every night denying the dried bones of those 2 innocent men which only followed their king's order and ended up slaughtered mercilessly :)
El Cid is a true follower of Christ in that he ordered his men to turn the other cheek whether Christian or Muslim.
Wiki says otherwise in one instance. Like he conquered a city and converted all the mosques into churches. Still he was one of the more noble characters historically.
@@sharilshahed6106 Damn I wonder how many monks he trained for that to happen!
13:17 was my favorite moment... the idea of Count Berenguer watching the rec! Sounds like something he would do!
Great job some of these sounded quite tricky!
I choose to believe that the two contestants in the beginning were just wounded like la hire and would return safely in the next scenario
T-West: We are pacifists, we don't kill!
Also T-West: Orders his units to commit suicide.
Also T-West: Employs literal suicide bombers.
3:41 "Frankly, after forcing us to kill two units, King Sancho had it coming."
True pacifists know that an eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind.
A big F for the 2 handed swordsman and the knight :'(
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Fastest break of pacifism yet? The dock-monk-transport ship trick was cool
gonna practice that. I only learned recently a monk could shift their focus or if caught up with a running enemy, the conversion still continues.
Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition!
King Sancho is worse than Jigsaw.
I'm looking forward to Montezuma. The Aztecs are infamous for -sacrificing- deleting their people.
"El Cid will fall to my blade!" Regards, two-handed swordman
You wish to play DE version of El Cid? With DE Sancho?
I will not alow that.
However, if he wishes, I'm sure there's a mod in the Steam Workshop, T-West?
I read this in (AoC) Sancho's voice.
Truly epic. Here, have an upvote.
Legend speaks of a comment T-West didn't like already.
I legitimately look forward to these more than any other aoe2 content.
Ahh too bad for the Two tournament guys, but i mean those were in a tournament right ? like both parties agreed to fight to the death, we could agree on that they were nessesary for El Cid to vow on pacifism afterwards, Superb video T-West ! (Are you going to do all the conquerors solo-battles? like in a compliation or something ?) Waiting on for the next one for more Pacifism !
Will try to fill of the Battles of the Conqueors (not the FE ones) into a video.
Whenever I see one of these in my reccomended it just makes my day right there!
you deserve way more followers. The commentary and quality is on point. keep up the good work. its rly interesting too watch even for me which isnt even playing aoe2 at the moment.
13:49 "Inquisition proves to be a valuable aide, as it yields fast conversions against 11th century gunpowder units."
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Please pour some out for the souls of any halfway-history buffs whose souls just died a lot right there.
lmao i didn't even think about how savagely ahistoric that sentence was.
JA! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Our chief weapon is Pacifisim! And Distraction!
I mean, our TWO chief weapons are Pacifisim and Distraction! And Wololo!
...Damm it!
This is it, our chief weaponS are Pacifism, Distraction and Wololo! And an outstanding content creator!
Amazing as always, the trick with the monks insta convertion was awesome!
This channel is quality-wise on level with SOTL or T90!! Its crasy. MONTEZUMA next
Absolutely! Really enjoy the content
Using a whole playthrough just for a dream? That's dedication!
11:52 Nice Last Airbender reference by the way.
The way you did the fourth mission by converting transport ships and by destroying their docks were simply marvelous
I'm starting to love this series :) so creative, being a game devloper myself, it's just facinating how players can totally turn games on their head to create their own :)
They're injured cause it was a friendly tournament, i believe they fainted from the exhausting fight instead of being killed and that's the resolve we have for pacifism lol
oh that last airbender reference was amazing. dam those purple fire troops!
The pacifist series is unthinkable perfection
It actually is. One of my favourite ever series on AOE
I have to say, I'm really enjoying this series. Not only is it entertaining, I'm learning a lot about the game mechanics. I never realized, for instance, that conversion times can carry over from one unit to another.
Good job there man! Love the videos!
Also, Thanks for the heart!
Great as always. El Cid 5 is one of the hardest scenarios for me. Last night used the info from your Genghis Khan video to get all the achievements for it, hopefully this will be enough to get through the fight with Berenger. It's currently the only scenario I don't have gold of the AoC scenarios.
This was a great video again. It really brightened my day :)
Montezuma campaign is going to be hard! These are the greatest videos.
Kudos for not dodging the one campaign that screws with your concept at the very first minute of play
Oooh I love the gunpowder in early 11 century. Who doesn't know that El Cid uses fire weapons in the times of the Reconquest?
I have been waiting for this for so long tysm and please continue the amazing work!!
El-Cid kills two men in a tournament. This deeply scars him physiologically and he vows to never take another life and lead a life of pacifism
Whoever did the Valencia map didn't know were Lérida is...
Note gunpowder exists in 11th century including firelances…just not in Europe yet
Yay! I thought the next episodes is far away but happy to see it already!
You story telling is spot on, keep up the good work!
I always love both the brilliant tactics and the humorous narratives.
Happy to see the serie continue! Keep up the good work!
That were not kills in the first Szenario, that were just training and those to guys returned happily back to their families after. But when i think about it, you could have enforced pacifism more with the missionaries, as they are more unexpected than the spanish inquisition.
holy shit that building->unit conversion trick is sick, i've noticed that like 10 years ago but forgot about it completely! very well played! :)
As a kid I didn't know english and my aoe2 conquerors expansion was on english so I just killed the first champion on foot and then took babieca and run away. Sancho would declare me as enemy but I could still go and have the serfs join me. Maybe you could have just killed one of the champions at the tournament, or maybe that's been changed on DE version.
Ah, they didn't join me when I had just the foot version of El Cid, but maybe those triggers would still work with the horse version.
Either way, I think the condition of bringing King Sancho back to the tournament grounds still wouldn't be activated.
I demand a trial by...... Pacifism!
Trial by Baltic.
El cid: gets disgusted for having to kill two units in a tournament
Also el cid: obliterates his whole army in the name of pacifism
I wonder what the god of war in the Montezuma campaign will think of T-Wests pacifism?
I remember how ridiculously difficult "Reconquista" was in comparison to "King of Valencia"
king of valencia is honestly not that difficult. It feels intimidating, yes but berenguer is lacking a LOT of blacksmith upgrades, never gets heresy or faith and is pretty weak to both monks and conqs - especially monks.
Those bombard towers are annoying tho
great vid again twest cant wait for next episode
Believe me when i say your video's thumbnail is a legendary piece of art 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Amazing as always ! :D
Love these ones
I can't imagine how many hours that took how many times you had to restart a mission after a unit accidentally killed an enemy. Well done, definitely worth a subscribe
I'm surprised more people haven't subscribed, this is some quality and difficult to do content
I literally stopped the game I was playing when I got the notification for this video on my phone! Entertaining as always! I'm surprised you didn't use the missionaries more, since their increased mobility seemed to address the monk's biggest weakness, though I guess monks have greater range. Also, depending on the scenario, I don't think you always need to delete castles immediately, getting conscription, trebs and unique techs is really useful and you shouldn't have to worry too much about the castles killing anyone if you don't pick up the extra range techs and the castle itself is located at the back of your base.
The extra range of Monks is just extremely important. The one use I did find for Missionaries is converting Trebs and Rams, since they need to be adjacent to them and the range doesn't matter.
@@T-West Fair enough, though I imagine being able to dance missionaries back and forth avoiding bombard cannon fire would have come in handy in The Lion and the Demon ;)
I am impressed by both the gameplay and the story telling. Great series
I definitely was not expecting this series to continue so soon, I do believe this is like seeing the god returning to mount Olympus.
Btw really pumped, Montezuma is my favorite campaign in all of AoE.
I love it how you make it seem so easy
Literally more consistent that SoTL.
what does this mean
Excellent content, keep up the great work
wow lets go el cid i love this campaign
it seems that when thanos said he's inevitable, so was those 2 deaths in this campaign...
i loiikee thoiss(4)
Monty phyton and avatar references in an AoE video... very peacefully
4:23 I, El Cid, have a dream.
wrong civ, but I'd love to see this meme'd in Sforza campaign.
That's an interesting trigger about removing the monks and depending on the horse el cid for the victory condition. Also did not know you could go the back way into the base and it was wide open lol. Interesting conditions on the other scenarios, I never bothered with the transports so I didn't know they had that impact.
Oh, I just deleted some of the units and buildings for King Sancho so I could see what happens when heading back. There are indeed several Castles and an army defending the tournament grounds.
T-West i meant alfonso had a hole in his base, but really like the effort that goes into these and looking forward to montezuma
Waaait I missed this wonderful video.
YESSS THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR BABY!
NO ONE EXPECTS THE PACIFIST INQUISITION
These are dang good stuff
"11th century gunpowder units"... That was hilarious!
5:27 yo what the hell, i wasn't expecting that!
It still surprises me every time!
Ngl, Been waiting for this since Barbarossa pacifism.
In King of Valencia, once you enter Denia, you can use your villagers to quickly wall up the fortress from where the units attacking Denia come from. Once that is done, they don't attack you and you just need to set Denia to enemy to destroy the gate on the bridge, and then repeat everything you did after crossing, except Berenguer won't attack you with a large army. So you can peacefully build up trebuchets and all and destroy berenguer's base. After that you can simply delete the walls you built earlier which will trigger the scenario to play normally. Thus you will have an easier time finishing it off pacifistly
King Sancho was my favourite voice acting in AOC, and there was a lot of competition for that!
Let the tournament begin!
Great content so creative!! Keep it up!!
15:16 The first of our opponents is Cyan. They train siege and cavalry archers. The arrows can't kill our rams. So, we use a market to balance our economy and train some siege. But we can't let their rams kill our rams. Instead we are going to need a trap. And in this scenario we have the best trap of all......
DA FISH TRAP!!!
I actually like how you portrayed Alphonso as the good guy in your pacifist AoE2 universe (ar first at least, the guy is just irredeemable even by pacifist standards)
That ram at 16:19 was busting a wild move
You could capture the monastery at the first mission and make two monks because you have 200 gold no? Equally is a good video and I enjoyed every second, good job!
You start in the Feudal Age, so no training Monks.
@@T-West I didnt see that, I knew it couldn't be done because if you haven't done it, it's for something
I love these videos it’s such an interesting concept keep them up 😊
Aw man love the Mel brooks and monthly python references
Give this man a medal
The 4th is way easier when you Wall el cid and Alfonso somewhere at the left Edge in the mountains and send two villagers with a Scout to cite the enemys Units near to the church of the Green on the sea. Then Just build a bunch of firegalleys and destroy the docks.
What is surprising from this T West guy is that not only he do a pacifist/least kills run, but he also does all of that (along with Joan and Barbarossa campaign) in Hard difficulty this entire time!
This guy need more attention more than what he get now, for all these achievement he gets!
As always a pleasure
I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition. In the 2nd cenario.
6:53 while the rams pacify his castle
The best bit of the video was the trebuchet destroying the outpost in time with the music crescendo at 11:59, was that godlike editting or just divine luck?
That's what happens when you listen to Lord DauT.