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The problem with these studies you speak of is they are mostly observational. These studies can't control for hundreds of co-founders that make the results questionable. Words like " linked " and "associated " don't mean causation. Also there is something called " healthy user bias". People who eat a predominantly wfpb diet also do other healthy behaviors.
Always catch your videos but your audio in this one is terrible Ari! It sounds like your audio is being picked up by some distant mic and not coming in through the one in front of you, definitely not your usual quality of audio. Having to catch up on your last few videos & this is one i started with so Im assuming the painful audio quality is only on this video
Interesting discussion, thanks. Much like the Pantone "Colour of the Year", there is always a current "anti nutrient" or two. The most recent one seems to be oxalates, which replaced lectins, which replaced phytates, which replaced thallium in rice, which replaced goitrogens, and so on. My main takeaway is that these diets did have the beneficial effect of removing low quality aspects of mostly plant based diets (refined carbohydrates like white bread and pizza dough, excess salt etc.).
Thanks Ari and your hosts for this pretty interesting interview. I would have liked you to talk about oxalates. Perharps next time. I look forward to hearing a New episode from you and your Red pen reviews' guests.
Will try to get to Oxalates another time. Basically people with an unhealthy gut struggle with these but health people should deal with moderate amounts with no trouble.
I hear mention regarding cardiovascular events that almost 50% of events happen with individuals who have low LDL too. Not just those with high LDL. Is this statement accurate? I am just trying to figure out what the truth is, but it seems we don't have the whole picture just yet and pinning the risk factor on one thing based on observational studies (as so many in the youtube sphere does) seems to cause more confusion. Hopefully we will learn more about this now that meat based diets are growing as more people struggle with health issues. There is something in our modern lifestyle which causes so many to have metabolic issues and auto-immune diseases, and I don't think it's the red meat. The processed foods seem like a much bigger factor, and many of the research papers don't separate processed meats from clean meats. Doing research on individuals who eats processed meats (i.e McDonalds, deli meats, etc), vs those who eat clean quality meat seems redundant and doesn't present the actual truth. This is why I feel there is so much misinformation coming from both sides. Making it incredibly hard to figure out what's actually true. And there are too many cherry picked, with exclusion of lots of data at times. I remember there being a paper where they excluded roughly 17 countries to push an agenda. Sadly I don't remember which it was. I'm also very curious if it's not actually the plant foods themselves, but the toxins in soil, environment in general, pesticides etc which are causing a lot of the issues for so many who struggle with plant foods. Another thought is, could we all have varying degree of capacity to actually handle these different foods? Also, if the inuits and other tribes are able to have meat dominant diets without lots of cardiovascular disease, why would it be different for the rest of us.
Good points to bring up. It is such a confusing topic. I have done vegan, keto, and carnivore in the past, and the carnivore diet is the only one that has seriously helped my psoriasis (an autoimmune disease).
Glad to hear it helped. Of course that doesn't mean to say that a Carnivore diet is good for all of us. Just that it helped you with that particular issue.
I believe that, we humans, have a tendency to go to extremes. Eg: if “abc” is good for me, then MORE or ALL “abc” must be better, or best for me AND everyone else. I believe that reason and a more modest approach might work better. Regarding diet, it seems more reasonable to understand that there were times when we gorged ourselves on meat, after a successful hunt, during the seasons when fruits and vegetables were not in season. During times when they were, we probably ate what was available in the area that we lived. There must also have been times when we went without any food and that’s what would have brought on those periods of heightened energy, clarity of mind and well being. Those states of being were not permanent. They were just needed in order to figure out where and how to get more nutrition. Also, I believe that people from tropical climates had adapted to eating a diet that would not be the same or as healthy for people that were adapted to eating according to what was available in colder climates. This is why, I believe that we need to become more aware of how our individual body reacts to various foods. Another issue that I find today that was nonexistent to our ancestors. This is the way we produce “food” today. It seems the methods of mass production of our foods, brings about a more unhealthy and unnatural source of nutrition.
Thanks for bringing this to your audience. This is such a confusing topic and so individualistic. Wanted to call the sound to your attention on this podcast. It is not optimal, very low.
Ari, I humbly request that you and I have a conversation about the plant vs meat subject. I have lived as a walking medical experiment. Certain very specific things I have observed during all my experimentations (+-40 years..) might be of interest to you....
I really enjoyed this podcast and the insight brought forward. As somebody who’s bounced around to many diets in my lifetime, I always come back to a more centred or moderate perspective. Keep up the great work Ari!
I was very pleased to see the title of this conversation, and enjoyed it somewhat. I’m a longtime listener and always respect your curiosity and courage to talk about things that are controversial. This is no exception. I should say that maybe my only somewhat enjoyment is out of your control in that honestly requires them to only say what can be supported, and that the topic still stands in need of much more study. As a person who suffers from a long standing chronic illness (Lyme disease) I am determined to leave no stone unturned in pursuit of healing, so naturally diet is a big factor for me. I was encouraged to hear that you have also tied it all. But after all my experimentation I’m still not sure what the answer is. Seems like we still need to be careful about lectins? I did try carnivore. I lasted 9 days and felt worse and hated everything I ate. I’m a natural plant eater. It’s what my body wants. I’m an avid gardener and strive to eat as much as I can from my garden. However, my husband and I also raise grass fed beef and pastured poultry. In the end, I guess I’m thankful for the knowledge that Red Pen Reviews is a thing. One final question though: regarding LDL and CHD. I thought the Lipid Hypothesis has been proven wrong. I thought animal fats have been cleared as not harmful. Pretty sure one of your guests recommended polyunsaturated fats. 🤔
It’s great to hear that you’ve been a longtime listener and appreciate the conversations we dive into, even the controversial ones. It sounds like you’ve been on quite a journey with your health and diet. Diet and chronic illness, especially something as complex as Lyme disease, can be incredibly challenging to navigate. You’re definitely not alone in feeling that the answers are still elusive. As for lectins, it's true that some people find they need to be cautious with them, but it varies widely from person to person. Regarding your experience with the carnivore diet, it’s perfectly okay that it didn’t work for you. Everyone’s body reacts differently, and it’s important to listen to what your body wants and needs. It’s fantastic that you have such a strong connection to your garden and the food you grow - there’s something really special about that. On the topic of LDL and CHD, it’s a nuanced issue. While some recent studies and discussions have questioned the Lipid Hypothesis, the consensus in the medical community still considers high LDL levels a risk factor for heart disease. However, the context matters - the type of fats you consume, overall diet, lifestyle, and individual health conditions all play significant roles. Some experts do advocate for the inclusion of healthy polyunsaturated fats as part of a balanced diet. Thanks for your thoughtful comment. Keep exploring and tuning in - the journey to better health is a continuous one, and it sounds like you’re on the right path by staying informed and proactive.
I was confused by Ari's comment about meat potentially having a negative impact on telomeres, because in another TEB podcast heard recently about protein, it was stated that the body does not absorb vegetarian protein as effectively as animal protein. I don't have a weight problem, just trying to eat for energy and longevity, and getting a bit confused
That's a misleading cover quote. Pre-agricultural societies were never vegetarian. It's also known that most such societies sought meat preferentially. The rare exceptions were those, like the Inuit, who had extremely limited access to plant foods. Guyenet knows all of this; he's written about it on his old blog. That said, the discussion itself was high quality.
Hi Kreek, Sorry what is it that you believe is misleading? The text on the image says "typically plant foods were consumed." This in no way is synonymous with a claim of these societies were "vegetarian" or that meat was not consumed or shunned. All of this is pretty well explained in the podcast, and I think all the quote does is help debunk the notion that our ancestors were "carnivores" who did not consume plants. I don't see anything misleading in that text -- and I think it's all well explained in the podcast itself in a very nuanced way. Glad you enjoyed it!
Generally, I recommend a diet higher in protein with low/moderate amounts of fat and carbs, along with plenty of plant fiber and phytonutrients from plant food. The details can differ according a person's individual health circumstances though.
So...lectins. Lectins! Right? Context is everything. The amount of lectin in a food diminishes through proper food preparation, BUT that often includes not just the right cooking/soak time/fermentation method, but what you pair the food with afterwards. In the presence of calcium, per Brave's AI: "Calcium ions can bind to lectins, reducing their ability to interact with cells in the digestive tract. This binding event may prevent lectins from interfering with mineral absorption, including calcium, iron, phosphorus, and zinc. The calcium-lectin complexation may contribute to a healthier gut environment, promoting optimal nutrient digestion and absorption." Ugh. So us elimination diet, multiple food sensitivities folk, eliminating dairy, miss this important component. Vegan diets would also vastly exasperate this. If you're substituting with a fortified almond milk, for example, that calcium is already occupied binding the almond lectin (or oxalates), or are already over burdened from other food choices. Traditional diets work because of the these relationships are present. I think this interview is a reminder of this.
It is generally advised to discard the water used to soak and cook legumes to reduce the concentration of antinutrients. Rinse legumes thoroughly before and after soaking to help remove some of the antinutrients. Cook legumes in fresh water rather than the soaking water.
Diet answer is simple: Natural wild plant and raw animal food that is local to your area, that has received the same sunlight as your body. The main issue we face is that we now live an indoor life suffering from sunlight deficiency. This is the cause of issues we blame on meat for instance. The artificial light is a driver of modern disease. Also eating only cooked meat has nothing to do with being carnivore, that diet is a trend for people to feel superior to others.
I wish the discussion of Paul Saladino had included his comments that ALL plants have created "barriers" to man eating them..especially re greens like Kale.
Where's the paleoanthropologist who has looked at this? There are some. My layman's take away from them is that human precursors were plant based but closer to us in time humans are omnivore. But wild animal foods are not the same at all as industrially raised animals.
Love the content of your youtube channel. I am like you as you suggested in the interview where you have tried all the diets that you think is the correct one. I am on the verge of going carnivore and have been moving that way over 15 years after being vegetarian then vegan then got type 2 diabetes then just started eating whole foods and then not type 2 anymore. Went to low carb then Keto and feel better each step. Finally got to a good weight by prioritizing protein and now feel like I need to try more fat so may still try carnivore but will give up carbs just a while to see if there is a difference. I really think I will come off it cause all the other carnivores seem to get theirselves better and then bring carbs back in slowly. The only question I have is when they review the books and on the evidence is how sound is the evidence because of the bias of the industry that is supplying the research, or did I just believe the idea that kelloggs, coke and all these other corporate companies that have the money to support their products with paid for scientific reviews in their favor. I wish there was more unbiased research on all these topics.
Wow! Your health journey sounds so much like mine!! I went back and forth, from one end of the spectrum of vegan all the way to carnivore and everything in between, being mindful in every change and every outcome. NO ONE person LOVES the idea of going carnivore!! We end up in carnivore because eating nothing is not an option (although I have contemplated the idea of "eating nothing" as I sailed through a 21 day water fast). I try these experiments all the time: adding this, removing that....I have toenail fungus on three of my toes, I have been tracking the disappearance of this fungus in 5 months on 99.99% carnivore. I tried every remedy for 25 years. And now one toe is perfect, the second one has about 10% left to clear up and the 3rd toe is starting to get the message. Why are all my maladies disappearing ?? All my biomarkers have been "normal" my whole life and ate the "healthy diet." I always seem to baffle the doctors with my crazy set of symptoms they could not ever explain. So I kept searching and testing new ways. It never occurred to me to remove plants. I would not eat certain veggies, but I never eliminated plant food altogether. And now I have reversed pancreatitis, a goiter, fibromyalgia, IBS, constipation (a huge problem for me), migraines and headaches, UTI's, kidney problems, obesity....I don't think there is enough room to put the rest of the symptoms..... I just want to feel well...I am banking on Carnivore because there are no other options....🥺
@@lynleytodd6827 I am glad it is working for you lynley. I am working that way just to try it and fortunately I don't have any problems I'm aware of right now. Who know's though when I go full Carnivore may find out how I'm supposed to be feeling. Enjoy your journey.
Its hard for me to take someone seriously (not you, your guest) who is with a straight face mocking the idea that tap water is a bad thing to drink. It just shows how ingrained they are by "true science" - I agree that Lectins & Carnivore are stupid but its hard for me to get on board with people who are supposed to be the group looking at othe rpeoples studies. If we just take industry study that claims tap water is fine to drink when theres tons of 3rd party tesitng of tap water showing how bad it is, just absurd. It would make me very skeptical on these 2's opinion on other topics that Im not in agreement with them going into it
@@TheEnergyBlueprint Thats a dealbreaker for me on these guys. It means that they are biased in the research they look at it imo, nobody can do a well thoughout look into tap water and conclude its healthy. I do agree with them on the particular topics of this podcast but thats cause its likely correct. BUt I bet they agree with a ton of mainstream positions that you don't and do not follow your paradigm (your favorite word :)
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The problem with these studies you speak of is they are mostly observational. These studies can't control for hundreds of co-founders that make the results questionable. Words like " linked " and "associated " don't mean causation. Also there is something called " healthy user bias". People who eat a predominantly wfpb diet also do other healthy behaviors.
Always catch your videos but your audio in this one is terrible Ari! It sounds like your audio is being picked up by some distant mic and not coming in through the one in front of you, definitely not your usual quality of audio. Having to catch up on your last few videos & this is one i started with so Im assuming the painful audio quality is only on this video
Interesting discussion, thanks. Much like the Pantone "Colour of the Year", there is always a current "anti nutrient" or two. The most recent one seems to be oxalates, which replaced lectins, which replaced phytates, which replaced thallium in rice, which replaced goitrogens, and so on. My main takeaway is that these diets did have the beneficial effect of removing low quality aspects of mostly plant based diets (refined carbohydrates like white bread and pizza dough, excess salt etc.).
I like the way you put that.
Thanks Ari and your hosts for this pretty interesting interview.
I would have liked you to talk about oxalates. Perharps next time.
I look forward to hearing a New episode from you and your Red pen reviews' guests.
Will try to get to Oxalates another time. Basically people with an unhealthy gut struggle with these but health people should deal with moderate amounts with no trouble.
I hear mention regarding cardiovascular events that almost 50% of events happen with individuals who have low LDL too. Not just those with high LDL. Is this statement accurate?
I am just trying to figure out what the truth is, but it seems we don't have the whole picture just yet and pinning the risk factor on one thing based on observational studies (as so many in the youtube sphere does) seems to cause more confusion. Hopefully we will learn more about this now that meat based diets are growing as more people struggle with health issues. There is something in our modern lifestyle which causes so many to have metabolic issues and auto-immune diseases, and I don't think it's the red meat. The processed foods seem like a much bigger factor, and many of the research papers don't separate processed meats from clean meats. Doing research on individuals who eats processed meats (i.e McDonalds, deli meats, etc), vs those who eat clean quality meat seems redundant and doesn't present the actual truth. This is why I feel there is so much misinformation coming from both sides. Making it incredibly hard to figure out what's actually true. And there are too many cherry picked, with exclusion of lots of data at times. I remember there being a paper where they excluded roughly 17 countries to push an agenda. Sadly I don't remember which it was.
I'm also very curious if it's not actually the plant foods themselves, but the toxins in soil, environment in general, pesticides etc which are causing a lot of the issues for so many who struggle with plant foods.
Another thought is, could we all have varying degree of capacity to actually handle these different foods? Also, if the inuits and other tribes are able to have meat dominant diets without lots of cardiovascular disease, why would it be different for the rest of us.
Good points to bring up. It is such a confusing topic. I have done vegan, keto, and carnivore in the past, and the carnivore diet is the only one that has seriously helped my psoriasis (an autoimmune disease).
Confusing, isn't it?
Glad to hear it helped. Of course that doesn't mean to say that a Carnivore diet is good for all of us. Just that it helped you with that particular issue.
Such a good and necessary discussion. Hope you get lots of viewers
I believe that, we humans, have a tendency to go to extremes.
Eg: if “abc” is good for me, then MORE or ALL “abc” must be better, or best for me AND everyone else.
I believe that reason and a more modest approach might work better.
Regarding diet, it seems more reasonable to understand that there were times when we gorged ourselves on meat, after a successful hunt, during the seasons when fruits and vegetables were not in season.
During times when they were, we probably ate what was available in the area that we lived. There must also have been times when we went without any food and that’s what would have brought on those periods of heightened energy, clarity of mind and well being. Those states of being were not permanent. They were just needed in order to figure out where and how to get more nutrition.
Also, I believe that people from tropical climates had adapted to eating a diet that would not be the same or as healthy for people that were adapted to eating according to what was available in colder climates.
This is why, I believe that we need to become more aware of how our individual body reacts to various foods.
Another issue that I find today that was nonexistent to our ancestors. This is the way we produce “food” today.
It seems the methods of mass production of our foods, brings about a more unhealthy and unnatural source of nutrition.
I won't argue with any of that! :)
Thanks for bringing this to your audience. This is such a confusing topic and so individualistic. Wanted to call the sound to your attention on this podcast. It is not optimal, very low.
It was an issue that I've now fixed. Thanks though!
Ari, I humbly request that you and I have a conversation about the plant vs meat subject. I have lived as a walking medical experiment. Certain very specific things I have observed during all my experimentations (+-40 years..) might be of interest to you....
Sounds interesting. Tell me more...
I really enjoyed this podcast and the insight brought forward. As somebody who’s bounced around to many diets in my lifetime, I always come back to a more centred or moderate perspective. Keep up the great work Ari!
I feel that's where the magic is too. :)
I was very pleased to see the title of this conversation, and enjoyed it somewhat. I’m a longtime listener and always respect your curiosity and courage to talk about things that are controversial. This is no exception. I should say that maybe my only somewhat enjoyment is out of your control in that honestly requires them to only say what can be supported, and that the topic still stands in need of much more study. As a person who suffers from a long standing chronic illness (Lyme disease) I am determined to leave no stone unturned in pursuit of healing, so naturally diet is a big factor for me. I was encouraged to hear that you have also tied it all. But after all my experimentation I’m still not sure what the answer is. Seems like we still need to be careful about lectins?
I did try carnivore. I lasted 9 days and felt worse and hated everything I ate. I’m a natural plant eater. It’s what my body wants. I’m an avid gardener and strive to eat as much as I can from my garden. However, my husband and I also raise grass fed beef and pastured poultry.
In the end, I guess I’m thankful for the knowledge that Red Pen Reviews is a thing. One final question though: regarding LDL and CHD. I thought the Lipid Hypothesis has been proven wrong. I thought animal fats have been cleared as not harmful. Pretty sure one of your guests recommended polyunsaturated fats. 🤔
It’s great to hear that you’ve been a longtime listener and appreciate the conversations we dive into, even the controversial ones. It sounds like you’ve been on quite a journey with your health and diet.
Diet and chronic illness, especially something as complex as Lyme disease, can be incredibly challenging to navigate. You’re definitely not alone in feeling that the answers are still elusive. As for lectins, it's true that some people find they need to be cautious with them, but it varies widely from person to person.
Regarding your experience with the carnivore diet, it’s perfectly okay that it didn’t work for you. Everyone’s body reacts differently, and it’s important to listen to what your body wants and needs. It’s fantastic that you have such a strong connection to your garden and the food you grow - there’s something really special about that.
On the topic of LDL and CHD, it’s a nuanced issue. While some recent studies and discussions have questioned the Lipid Hypothesis, the consensus in the medical community still considers high LDL levels a risk factor for heart disease. However, the context matters - the type of fats you consume, overall diet, lifestyle, and individual health conditions all play significant roles. Some experts do advocate for the inclusion of healthy polyunsaturated fats as part of a balanced diet.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment. Keep exploring and tuning in - the journey to better health is a continuous one, and it sounds like you’re on the right path by staying informed and proactive.
Ari,you sound like you are visiting my village in southern Italy.......very far away,crackling voice.....not ver ear friendly.......
Sorry to hear that!
I was confused by Ari's comment about meat potentially having a negative impact on telomeres, because in another TEB podcast heard recently about protein, it was stated that the body does not absorb vegetarian protein as effectively as animal protein. I don't have a weight problem, just trying to eat for energy and longevity, and getting a bit confused
Can you spell out the question?
They’ve attacked water as well. Now we should be consuming structured water.
Structured water is promising.
That's a misleading cover quote. Pre-agricultural societies were never vegetarian. It's also known that most such societies sought meat preferentially. The rare exceptions were those, like the Inuit, who had extremely limited access to plant foods. Guyenet knows all of this; he's written about it on his old blog.
That said, the discussion itself was high quality.
Hi Kreek, Sorry what is it that you believe is misleading?
The text on the image says "typically plant foods were consumed." This in no way is synonymous with a claim of these societies were "vegetarian" or that meat was not consumed or shunned. All of this is pretty well explained in the podcast, and I think all the quote does is help debunk the notion that our ancestors were "carnivores" who did not consume plants.
I don't see anything misleading in that text -- and I think it's all well explained in the podcast itself in a very nuanced way.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the Red Pen reviews. But, apparently, they are not still reviewing books. I have a long list of books that I wish they would review!
Noted! Thanks for that.
Interesting!
AMEN DOCTOER THANK YOU.
You're welcome!
Thank you so much! 70 yo woman so very confused I don't know what to eat so I'm vegetarian. God bless you. I just can't read anymore books!!!!
Natural human diet is local plant food you can gather from a forest for example, and wild/grass fed animals that are local, eaten raw ideally.
Generally, I recommend a diet higher in protein with low/moderate amounts of fat and carbs, along with plenty of plant fiber and phytonutrients from plant food. The details can differ according a person's individual health circumstances though.
So...lectins. Lectins! Right? Context is everything. The amount of lectin in a food diminishes through proper food preparation, BUT that often includes not just the right cooking/soak time/fermentation method, but what you pair the food with afterwards. In the presence of calcium, per Brave's AI:
"Calcium ions can bind to lectins, reducing their ability to interact with cells in the digestive tract.
This binding event may prevent lectins from interfering with mineral absorption, including calcium, iron, phosphorus, and zinc.
The calcium-lectin complexation may contribute to a healthier gut environment, promoting optimal nutrient digestion and absorption."
Ugh. So us elimination diet, multiple food sensitivities folk, eliminating dairy, miss this important component. Vegan diets would also vastly exasperate this. If you're substituting with a fortified almond milk, for example, that calcium is already occupied binding the almond lectin (or oxalates), or are already over burdened from other food choices. Traditional diets work because of the these relationships are present.
I think this interview is a reminder of this.
Thanks for you comment.
@TheEnergyBlueprint Awesome... Can one drink the water used to boil legumes? Will that water contain antinutrients? Thanks!
It is generally advised to discard the water used to soak and cook legumes to reduce the concentration of antinutrients.
Rinse legumes thoroughly before and after soaking to help remove some of the antinutrients.
Cook legumes in fresh water rather than the soaking water.
@TheEnergyBlueprint Thank you very much for taking of your time and provide feedback.
Diet answer is simple:
Natural wild plant and raw animal food that is local to your area, that has received the same sunlight as your body.
The main issue we face is that we now live an indoor life suffering from sunlight deficiency. This is the cause of issues we blame on meat for instance. The artificial light is a driver of modern disease.
Also eating only cooked meat has nothing to do with being carnivore, that diet is a trend for people to feel superior to others.
You're certainly onto something there. Check my other podcast where I cover these topics, like light.
I wish the discussion of Paul Saladino had included his comments that ALL plants have created "barriers" to man eating them..especially re greens like Kale.
Why did you want that included?
@@TheEnergyBlueprint He says greens like Kale are poison!!!
Where's the paleoanthropologist who has looked at this? There are some. My layman's take away from them is that human precursors were plant based but closer to us in time humans are omnivore. But wild animal foods are not the same at all as industrially raised animals.
Correct.
Love the content of your youtube channel. I am like you as you suggested in the interview where you have tried all the diets that you think is the correct one. I am on the verge of going carnivore and have been moving that way over 15 years after being vegetarian then vegan then got type 2 diabetes then just started eating whole foods and then not type 2 anymore. Went to low carb then Keto and feel better each step. Finally got to a good weight by prioritizing protein and now feel like I need to try more fat so may still try carnivore but will give up carbs just a while to see if there is a difference. I really think I will come off it cause all the other carnivores seem to get theirselves better and then bring carbs back in slowly.
The only question I have is when they review the books and on the evidence is how sound is the evidence because of the bias of the industry that is supplying the research, or did I just believe the idea that kelloggs, coke and all these other corporate companies that have the money to support their products with paid for scientific reviews in their favor. I wish there was more unbiased research on all these topics.
Fair points!
I hope you find what works for you.
Wow! Your health journey sounds so much like mine!!
I went back and forth, from one end of the spectrum of vegan all the way to carnivore and everything in between, being mindful in every change and every outcome. NO ONE person LOVES the idea of going carnivore!! We end up in carnivore because eating nothing is not an option (although I have contemplated the idea of "eating nothing" as I sailed through a 21 day water fast). I try these experiments all the time: adding this, removing that....I have toenail fungus on three of my toes, I have been tracking the disappearance of this fungus in 5 months on 99.99% carnivore. I tried every remedy for 25 years. And now one toe is perfect, the second one has about 10% left to clear up and the 3rd toe is starting to get the message.
Why are all my maladies disappearing ??
All my biomarkers have been "normal" my whole life and ate the "healthy diet." I always seem to baffle the doctors with my crazy set of symptoms they could not ever explain. So I kept searching and testing new ways.
It never occurred to me to remove plants. I would not eat certain veggies, but I never eliminated plant food altogether.
And now I have reversed pancreatitis, a goiter, fibromyalgia, IBS, constipation (a huge problem for me), migraines and headaches, UTI's, kidney problems, obesity....I don't think there is enough room to put the rest of the symptoms.....
I just want to feel well...I am banking on Carnivore because there are no other options....🥺
@@lynleytodd6827 I am glad it is working for you lynley. I am working that way just to try it and fortunately I don't have any problems I'm aware of right now. Who know's though when I go full Carnivore may find out how I'm supposed to be feeling. Enjoy your journey.
It's time to invest in a good microphone.
Thanks for the tip!
I think the second speaker needs to look at Ben Bikmans work on Sat fat, and Malcolm Kendricks tbe clot thickens.
I cant listen to anymore.
I suspect he's familiar with at least one of those individuals.
Its hard for me to take someone seriously (not you, your guest) who is with a straight face mocking the idea that tap water is a bad thing to drink. It just shows how ingrained they are by "true science" - I agree that Lectins & Carnivore are stupid but its hard for me to get on board with people who are supposed to be the group looking at othe rpeoples studies. If we just take industry study that claims tap water is fine to drink when theres tons of 3rd party tesitng of tap water showing how bad it is, just absurd. It would make me very skeptical on these 2's opinion on other topics that Im not in agreement with them going into it
Good point. Tap water is far from healthy.
@@TheEnergyBlueprint Thats a dealbreaker for me on these guys. It means that they are biased in the research they look at it imo, nobody can do a well thoughout look into tap water and conclude its healthy.
I do agree with them on the particular topics of this podcast but thats cause its likely correct. BUt I bet they agree with a ton of mainstream positions that you don't and do not follow your paradigm (your favorite word :)