2 year carnivore here. I’ve lost over 500 lbs (yes, not a typo!). I was trapped inside my own obesity. I failed many diets. I failed lap band surgery. Carnivore works! Being 800lbs was restrictive. Eating strict carnivore has freed me from thinking about food 24/7, I now have an off switch. Eating carbs awakens those cravings for me. So for me, it's best to abstain. I understand and accept that. It works for me and I am loving and living my life again. I will never go back! Thanks for all you do Dr Chaffee!
Wow! Congratulations! This makes me wonder if the over 600lb people on that reality show should be put on Carnivore instead of a seemingly difficult 1,200 calorie, low carb diet. I imagine it must be so difficult to go from eating 4,000 or more calories a day down to 1,200 and sticking with it.
So proud of you. Memories of my 500 lb grandmother sent me on a road of yo yo dieting my whole life. She died at 52. I am mostly carnivore now and do pretty well except for the diet soda. I get angry at myself but working on it! Love both of these doctors!
Vegetables are alive, meat is dead food. Dr. Chafee's eyes look like the dead cow he eats, doesn't show he has a lively life force within him. Look at his eyes. Wow.
I’ve been keto since 2017. About 6 months ago I moved closer to carnivore. The last month or so I’ve been almost 100% carnivore. Thanks to these two doctors and Dr Berry. I’m 74 and this old dog is learning new tricks. I feel 20 years younger than my age.
That was one of the biggest- most notibile changes I noticed as well, when I shifted away from consuming plants, drop kicking sugar/processed foods, seed oils to the curb. The closer I moved towards Carnivore.. the better I felt. I do however consume Avacads, dairy-heavy cream to keep the fat to protein ration in check.
I heard Dr. Berry explaining CARNIVORE one day, the next day I started a strict CARNIVORE way of eating. I'm in my 19+ months and loving it, feeling my best ever. I'll never go back to carbs and junk!!!!c
diet is so much shorter and mess annoying than "way of eating". the word diet may have a negative connotation but thats just connotation. the definition is simple and useful. carnivore diet is accurate.
carbs are no "junk"... stop this bullshit... ther are healthy carbs which are completely fine... but you weak souls probably overate with french fries and donuts and now you are demonizing carbs...
I’m 2month in. Just had a big meal last night, I ate about 200g of vegetables fresh and fermented, I feel very bloated today. I have more energy though, probably because carb retains more electrolytes.
What Dr. Rob said about babies eating, I can testify to the truth, back in 1985, when I had my child at a military Air Force base, they told me to feed her 4oz of breast milk or formula a day and that’s it. So me, as an inexperienced mother and didn’t grow up around anyone having children, I listened to them and in no time at all, after we got home, the child started having problems, crying all the time and gnawing the back of her fists!!! 😱 Fortunately, we were living with her grandmother at the time, who diagnosed her, having raised 4 children and said this child is HUNGRY!!! 😳 I told her what the doctor said and she said they are wrong, FEED HER TILL SHE’S FULL! That’s what I did. She stopped gnawing the back of her fists and crying all the time and was the happiest baby around! 🙌 🕊️ 🙌 Their excuse for doing this, was to keep them from becoming obese adults!!! 🤨 Killing them as babies, with this method, would definitely work, as they would never see adulthood!!! 😫 Thankful I had help and they didn’t get to kill my baby with their LIE! 🙏 ✝️ 🙏
Exact same thing happened in 2021 in Geneva, Switzerland… yeah. My sister gave birth to her first born son and he had a big appetite. The doctors and whoever it was DEMONS told her to feed him with a little bottle of milk. My nephew was constantly crying and under stress because he wanted more milk!! It was excruciating painful to listen to him cry of hunger while my sister was oblivious to the sound advice of our mother!! Our mother was devasted she couldn’t believe that my sister wouldn’t listen to us and instead fully obeyed to the doctors… Til this day me and mom suffer when we recall those moments… it was sooooo clear the kid was hungry! My mom had to sneak in additional portions of formula when my sister and her stubborn husband were not around and 100% of the time my nephew would drink until he was full and he would feel calm and super relaxed and would fall asleep deeply immediately after being satiated. Me and mom all we did was exchange looks and nod our heads. …
@@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql 😭 I’m so sorry. I couldn’t stand hearing my nephew cry when he was a baby!! So sorry he and y’all had to go through that. I hope your sister is more aware now. 🙏🏻
You’re right. Counting calories and portion control takes away the joy of eating 🥣. People say that eating until you’re full makes you a glutton and thus makes you fat. My cholesterol is high but I don’t really care. It’s tempting trust me. I really feel bad as if I have been disobedient and sinful for not listening to my doctors 🥼 advice and family. Congratulations 🎊🎉🎈🍾 keep up the good work
I don't think Cywes shined. He seemed arrogant, self righteous, and "dogmatic" it seemed as if his only reason for coming on was to say what he wanted to say, block Anthony from speaking, responding, or directing the conversation in any way, and to put Anthony in his place.
Dr. Chaffee is always so humble and gracious with his guests. ❤ We know he can debate people under the table and yet he stays patient and lets his guests talk.
I so agree, I love dr rob but, he does take over when in reality he could listen to his colleagues with some humility . Dr Anthony was gracious and courteous ! A real gentleman . Both are great teachers I just wish dr rob would tone it down or show a little humility .
I love what Dr Cywes said about switching carb addiction to creative or spiritual pursuits. I just started restoring motorcycles with all my extra energy and it totally worked! We absolutely need to have new creative things to do.
That’s amazing!! Well done!! So inspiring, people thrive when they are creative… religion aside but, the fact is, Jesus was a carpenter for a reason… 😊❤
You're absolutely right. I know that I do much better health wise when my mind is occupied. I can sit in front of the TV all day and mindlessly feed on junk but if I'm up and active then I can definitely manage my addictive eating.
I might surmise that meat only has a calming effect, except.... there are some self-proclaimed carnivores in the online space who seem to have a chip on their shoulder and be on edge/extra snarky. *shrug* maybe coffee or something extra going on for those folk... or I should say temperament is about more than diet
@MississippiJapan I started out nice and patient but now I assume it's testosterone thing going on inside of me causing me to be agitated and very aggressive easily. Wonder if dr chaffee can talk about that.
@@mikepullman2513 Apparently there's actually evidence in the opposite direction: lack of meat leads to higher aggression. (I'm trying to remember the specific correlation.... the measurement is violence I think, like criminally measured violence, and the factor is low saturated fat or low cholesterol or something. Whatever it is, it's something associated with meat consumption and _consistent_ studies show that people who lack it are statistically more violent.) I think Dr. Chaffee talked about testosterone specifically in a recent video, at least one I recently watched. And he brought this up (and isn't the only one). If you're experiencing _more_ agitation and aggression on carnivore, that sounds odd to me. Would be interesting to hear Dr. Chaffee discuss it again though, for sure. Maybe there's a bell curve where a minority of people get more aggressive for some reason, while the majority get less aggressive. Or maybe the bell curve is across time and you just haven't gotten to the 'zen' phase? In my experience, I started off agitated and carnivore brought me calm.
With all the dogma and rigidity in the Carnivore universe right now, these 2 enormously accomplished brains made space for each other. As always, Dr Chaffee was the most gracious host and guide- I keep coming back to his videos over and over again. I learned a ton- thank you!
Just my story and experience to caution with excessive veggies for some people. I did the keto diet for 7 years, ate 7-10 cups veggies a day, high fat, medium protein. I developed gut issues, dysbiotic flora, gut yeast, and joint pain (oxalate build up). No doctor or naturopath told me to reduce my veggies! One doctor wanted to inject my finger with steroids after telling me nothing showed up on the xray! I am about 2 months in on meat, butter, eggs, cream. My joint pain is gone, I am feeling super strong these days, my hair is not falling out, and my sleep patterns according to my smart watch are in the excellent zone. Going from keto, to ketovore, to carnivore definitely helped in the way of "giving" thinks up. I am still a coffee drinker and will have a glass of organic wine, but my labs are very optimal, ast, alt under 20. Insulin is 3.6, CRP is less than 1. I suppose I will try a veggie here or there some day, but I am always too full from beef, eggs, and butter to have any room for them! 😁
Nice ! Very similar to my own story, prior years of a vegetarian based diet almost ruined my health ! 4 years ago I switched to a ketogenic animal based foods diet and I stay mostly animal based foods with a few fermented foods and am in ketosis most of the time and feeling better than ever in my life !
I started carnivore a year ago, lost 26 lbs.in the first five months. All kinds of benefits, mental clarity, elimination of back pain and knee pain, eczema disappeared. Lost a total of 17 inches. Went off the rails at christmas and into Feb. Went back to eating awful. Back pain and knee pain came back with a vengeance. gained back 6 pounds, gain back some inches and just felt like crap. 3 days ago I went back on carnivore and the knee and back pain has gone and I feel so much better. I'm now completely convinced and staying on it for good.
I get your frustration. Eating healthy carbs can make a very positive difference, especially if you’ve been eating all the highly processed foods that combine sugar, fat, and seed oils. But do you ever consider that even the healthy carbs are addictive? For example: fruit. I’m never tempted to overeat meat, fish, or eggs. But once I start eating fruit, I can’t stop until it’s gone.
@@catsrus2890 does it matter? She knows that her way of eating at Xmas thru Feb made her feel lousy, and going back to carnivore makes her feel great.
3 year carnivore. After enough experimenting - fruit on, off, honey on, off, any carbs on - off -- I'm fully on just meat alone and just recently been able to get off my caffeine addiction. I am super grateful to carnivore. I've also been a nutrition coach for the past 9 years and my wellbeing has deteriorated when I was following everything by the book. "eat the rainbow" "carbs every few hours" etc and I'm sharing the carnivore message with my friends, family, team and loved ones.
Chaffee is becoming the world's best interviewer. Thank you for giving Dr Cywes the space he needed to explain Dr Chaffee- humble and intelligent. Thank you
Great interview, I have a lot from these 2 Drs. The biggest thing that I now know is that carbohydrates are what are killing us. Since going carnivore I no longer crave alcohol, have no joint/nerve pain, better skin, sleep better, and the list goes on.
I'm excited for this one. I had the wonderful opportunity to meet Dr Cywes at a conference I attended. Both men are very knowledgeable and widespread on their beliefs within the carnivore range.
I had basically the same trig/hdl readings. I’ve been going for a year and a half. I’ve been kind of curious why my trigs are so much higher than other people who have a 1/1 ratio.
@@denisedecker7330I have a girlfriend. Well OVER 300 -350 . Pounds. 5’1”. She’s been trying SO hard for 10 years to loose weight. Last week she told me her blood pressure was almost at STROKE levels. Her cardiologist has given up. She’s making kidney stones every other month. Constant lithotripsy procedures. Fatty liver, etc. I’ve begged her to try carnivore. She acts like she doesn’t even hear me. I think she’s tried and utterly failed. I’m normal weight but I have a carb addiction. I used to eat sweets then not eat for 1-2 days to punish myself for my weakness. But back to my gf. They asked her to do Ozempic last year, she refused. But now she’s gained even more. So she has become desperate. She’s going to take the injections. She doesn’t want to die but she cannot seem to quit eating. I think she might be going into heart failure. I support her decision. And get this. She’s an ICU nurse. She knows sugar can KILL her. She’s an Angel. An Angel with an addiction. I think some us can succeed at overcoming addictions. Others cannot. My point is I think “O” better than death
The purist and the semi-carnivore. Interesting conversation. I prefer to be more strict. I'm too sensitive to a lot of plant things anyway so keeping it pure works best for me. Admittedly I gotta let go of the coffee addiction. I know for sure that it is a negative for me. 19 months carnivore and age 63. Can't believe it took me 2/3 or half of my life span to figure out what allows me to be healthy.
Yeah I'm the same way, I just feel so much better being strict that it's a no-brainer for me. Glad you're doing so much better! When you do get off the coffee, you will be glad you did. It actually makes a big difference. Good luck with it!
@@anthonychaffeemdthank you. I have come to realize that I'll be happier and do better without the coffee. It's that addiction thing. I guess it gives me an ounce more sympathy for the people who struggle to give up all their addictions including fruit and sugar. I don't miss them one bit! But since I have a tiny monkey on my back I do really realize that people are addicted to their carbs. Most people I know can't actually won't do this, especially as purists. I have one friend who has changed and is eating a lot of meat and feeling much better and enjoying better Health. Plus my 24 year old son is making meat the main part of everything that he eats everyday. And I spread your word as much as I can. Appreciate your work so much.
I already had a high opinion of Dr Chaffee and knowing that Dr Cywes had some differing views than Dr Chaffee, I was interested to see how Dr Chaffee would react. Couldn’t be more impressed!!! Utmost respect!!
Outstanding interview. Kudos to Dr C for allowing Dr Cywes present his opinions and concerns even though some of them conflicted with his opinions. Makes for a great discussion.
His point was: be very careful about assuming that you have things “figured out.” Keep monitoring health, keep monitoring blood work, don’t assume that because everything is fine now, it’ll still be fine in a year or three or eight. Up until this point, there has been a lot of greed, ideology and hubris that has poisoned most of dietary research. He was advocating (even though he believes in carnivore) NOT being like the plant based people, who are in many cases almost cult-like. I happen to be one of those people whose blood sugar raises (and stays high) when I’m really high in protein consumption, but I do better when I eat lots of fat. Many of the influencers in the carnivore space are becoming every bit as puritanical as the plant based folks, and Dr. Cywes always advocates against that.
Dr Chaffee has very unique habit of letting his guest actually speak without interrupting and letting them get their point across which can be, at times very complex and not easy for regular people to digest, so to speak. Dr.Cywes whole point is to get people to think! He is not out to create clone type thinkers based on what he eats or shove supplements or some such stuff out on the back end of his interview. @@michelletrippi7782
@@t1mpaniI think Dr. Cywes may be projecting here. He presents his ideas dogmatically. For example, he made a clickbait video claiming ectopic fat in the abdomen isn't a problem. This contradicts established medical knowledge and he offers no empirical evidence to support his claim. He tends to repeat unsubstantiated hypotheses as fact. Additionally, his 'apology' video about Omega-3 dosage was concerning. He advocated for an extremely high intake without evidence, a level that would be unsustainable for most human cultures away from coastal areas. These are two concerning videos that I encountered while watching his entire back catalog. After that, I decided to unsubscribe from the channel.
The humility of Dr Chaffee is a hallmark of a true doctor and scientist! Thank you Dr Chaffee we are in the infancy of learning carnivore, mistakes will be made but still we’ll get real science happening!! ❤
As a carb addict transitioning to eating carnivore, I can say that you don’t eat carbs because you have disordered eating, you eat them because your physiological response to normal stressors is so extreme and you then feel like you need carbs to curb the massive blood sugar drop. I have experienced a panic attack while on carbs and while on this diet and it’s shocking how dull it feels as a carnivore. So have some compassion for the carb addicts who are experiencing a storm of emotions and are on a roller coaster they can’t get off.
I'm on a 48 hour fast, feeling superb and clear headed, but am also really looking forward to my steak, liver and chicken wings tomorrow. As an ex-cigarette smoker I can tell that there is a massive difference between being hungry for carbs and sugar (it's like being desperate for a cigarette), compared to "real" healthy hunger for a juicy piece of meat. I wish everyone good luck and great health on their carnivore/ketovore journey. Thank you to Dr. Chaffee and Dr. Cywes!
IT'S THE SUGAR, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SUGAR! This is a great interview with Dr Cywes about his doctoral work on how sugar causes an inflamatory response in the artheries . Thank you both.
8 weeks carniversary just passed, loving it! Cured depression, food freedom is amazing and feels so easy on my stomach, delicious, satiating, and now caring for a woman with diabetes, chronic autoimmune and mental healh issues and the team and her have agreed for her to go on keto which is one giant step in a very good direction for her health. Btw she has expressed interest in carnivore diet if she knew there was someone who has diabetes, lupus and schizophrenia who have had all 3 greatly improved or in remission through carnivore diet. She can't face giving up other foods at this point but the possibility of serious relief from her health issues could motivate her to try she has said
Thank you for letting this play out almost 2 hrs. So many are committed to that 1 hr mark and clearly stop the discussion short at that point when you would love to hear the natural completion of the topic and discussion.
I think my new favourite video for inspiration, today my life changed as I passed my qualification to be an advanced clinical practitioner.. next is to get my metabolic health practitioner qualification .. along with all that I am a new and repeatedly ‘failing’ carnivore but tomorrow is a new Day 1 with added mental focus and positive outlook. Thanks gents 😊
Congratulations! You might check out Sugar and Carb Addicts Anonymous or one of the support groups lead by Kelly Hogan or Dr. Joan Iffland. I have been on a long journey to quell my sugar and carb addiction. I’m sooooooooo much better when I have consistent support. Good luck to you🎉
I’ve started “carnivore” over & over again about 10 times in 4 years. This past year, my fasting glucose started to stay in the 90’s ALL day. So now the bad habits are starting to catch up. Before it was just attempts to overcome carb addiction but Blood glucose levels were ALWAYS in the 70’s. It’s show time for me now, so DAILY I listen to Cywes, Ken Berry, Ben Bickmen, and Sten Eckburg. To keep the momentum going. And also wearing a CGM. But it’s frustrating because it’s misreads a LOT & I’m still needing to stick my finger 😑
That was amaaaaaaaazing!!! Love Dr Cywes & Dr Chaffee. You have both changed my life for the better. Bless you both for not following the norm & for educating us. ❤
Dr Berry has taught me that coffee can be harmless for many people. I am not one of those people, but so what? I assure you I’m omnivore in other ways, eg come autumn I’m foraging wild berries for hours each day…! 🍓
@@Vinny-no9bdthis is your position....? Like dogma brainwashed kid.......huuuhuu Dr Berry drinks coffee he's omnivore/evil....🤦 Btw..... Show me where exactly he pushes a coffee....!??
Carbs WERE LITERALLY killing MEEEE!! These two doctors along with several others promoting and teaching carnivore eating are the heroes of my life…info that LITERALLY saved my life😮😮😮❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I'm 35 years old now and after a year on carnivore my body looks like it did back in high-school wrestling/football and my health has greatly improved as well. I feel great, look great, and have an all around better outlook on life. Carnivore always felt intuitive to me, and it's good now to know my intuition was right
I struggle ao much with carb addiction. Its real i seem to be able to get 24hr and then fall. As always I started today and praying for the willpower to succeed.
Only fat and protein will fix that. Trust me I know. Not will power. When a carb craving hits eat bacon and eggs or meat . Over time carbs don't seem as appealing plus your appetite goes way down . Take one day at a time.
I have had that same struggle my whole life. Keto (for 7 years) helped a LOT but I still would slip on occasion. It wasn’t until I completely gave up all plants, including stevia, monkfruit and allulose, that I could completely stop the cravings. When stress or emotions are extremely high I may still have a twinge of craving but a meal of beef and eggs will quell it always. The freedom I have as a carnivore is worth far more than any satisfaction I ever had from a special food. I’m right at 12 months of pure carnivore and feeling better than I’ve felt in decades. Still have not completely reached my ideal weight and still battling chronic Lyme disease and autoimmune issues so I’m introducing some fasting now. But even if this is “as good as it gets” for me I’m so much better than I have been in years!!
Just wow. Two of my favorite doctors! What a pleasure to follow you! I have learned so much from you both in the last years! From my bottom of my heart, I say Thank you!
Dr. Chaffee! What an outstanding interview with Dr. Robert Cywes. Dr. Cywes is a wealth of knowledge about so many things, especially the addiction model. I constantly learn new things from him. If you're reading this, Dr. Cywes: THANK YOU! I sure am glad MEAT is abundant now so we CAN be carnivores and be our healthiest selves. Dr. Chaffee, you and Dr. Shawn Baker are my #1s for learning about the carnivore way of eating. All Three of you I owe a debt of gratitude for educating me. I am in the best health of my life because of all that I have applied from you (plural.)
As Dr Berry has said, Dr Cywes is also a research PhD and wonders out loud in all his conversations. Some listeners have a knee jerk reaction that they are being challenged or cancelled by his information but the very opposite is reality as Dr Cywes goes out of his way to explain he eats carnivorously. He helps our Dr Heroes become better. Dr Chaffee is a model interviewer.
Just love how calm you were Dr Chaffee!! Stay cool calm and collected and keep doing your research to help those of us who believe eating animal protein without carbs is the optimal way to live 🙏 Towards the end I was beginning to get annoyed by how he kept interrupting you… you were the better gentleman
Dr. Chaffee is really humble, intelligent, patient, and such a pleasure to listen to! He is always so clear and articulates frequently that his plan is for him and works for him. He shares wonderfully, scientifically, and in laymen's terms. He is destined to change lives for generations. His words have triggered my husband and I to do a 30-day Carnivore challenge. We are on day 4 and actually feel very satisfied! I am a data collector, so I track the protein/fat carbs for us; and my hubbie just eats what I give him with a happy face. He weighttrains and is a martial artist and works full-time as a mechanic and a part-time college instructor. He burns at least 3000 cals per day and I cannot get him to eat enough. I just keep listening and learn new ideas from Dr. Chaffee. BTW, your time spent with Maggie!!! I totally loved that. Thank you for all your time and sharing.
Dr. Chaffee you are a wonderful interviewer. I can tell by your face you have some thoughts that don’t necessarily agree with everything that was said, but you were an amazing host.
What a great discussion between these two amazing doctors. Thank you both for your time and sharing of this information and your opinions. Very helpful and encouraging.
The skin on his face is amazing! I think that both these men are very attractive, but I am presumably far older than you are and Dr. Chaffee is a bit too young for me. Age does make a difference.
Last year time I read how bad oxalates were and discovered that most of my go-to(s) were oxalate foods......loads of almonds, peanuts, sweet potatoes, some greens. Thought I was eating to protect myself from chronic illness but was soon in for a rude awakening.
It may be the pepper that he is consuming which is holding back the oxalate dumping, and the coffee of course. I am two year carnivore and stopped coffee three weeks ago. I suffered oxalate dumping in the for of spots on my face, red eyes and achy limbs. It's about cleared now and so glad I gave up coffee- it's not conducive to a carnivore diet really I don't think. @@deva190
I'm at the lowest weight I've been since college, hovering around 170 lbs. I'm 61. I've been struggling to be consistently carnivore and suspect that it has a lot to do with not being able to picture myself at less than 160 lbs. I'm wearing a size 10! Smaller than that is unimaginable and I think I'm scared that I won't recognize myself - and won't be able to handle the attention it may bring.
Same story here. But I did a lot of diets and that always brought me back to about 160 lbs. Carnivore for a year now and last summer I reached 120 lbs. During the Christmas period I made a mistake with cheese and still struggle with it. Every day I try to keep the weight off and have gained 6 lbs. It's so hard even though I have a health problem that doesn't allow me to eat any carbs, not even eggs. My partner is not a carnivore and eats cheese on bread every day, so not bringing it into the house is not an option. But I still want to get back to less than 120 lbs because I was so proud and it felt so good to be able to wear all those beautiful clothes. Good luck to us 👋
Thanks for your honesty. Your story reminds me of a chunky acquaintance in high school who claimed she almost preferred being over-fat to being slender and in demand. She described her body fat as a sort of protective duvet quilt, cushioning her from the demands of the people around her. 😮
I don't want to go below 160, over the holidays l put 11 tubs of ice cream down over a week and a half and was back to 162 pounds in a couple weeks, carnivore is so crazy for staying lean, so weight gain requires work now, been carnivore 5 years
This was very good, thank you! I am going from keto/ketovor to carnivor but I think I will put a very small amount of carbohydrates to my diet after what dr Cywes said, just to be on a safe side. The psychology part in his own podcasts is briliant and helped me a lot to understand the carb addiction. He is the only one I've found who speeks about it. This is really important and should be talked more about since not everyone really understands what takes them back to carbs and how to deal with it.
Good episode! Really enjoyed it. Hate that people that are such good critical thinkers and yet they still believe in "evolution" regardless of the total lack of evidence.
I found this video very interesting, but I tended to zone out a bit with all the talk about ‘blood work’. Here in the UK blood work is not done routinely and I keep away from the gp surgery as much as possible. I have to go on ‘how I feel’ and find the simple approach that Dr Chaffee promotes to be adequate for me.
I’m in U.K. too. I totally agree with you. I have under active thyroid. No full blood test. Only synthetic option to help. Being our own doctor is only option. ❤
I love these two men and how their philosophies juxtapose. I’d like to see a response to carb cycling for athletic performance. I know this is highly contested amongst performance specialists. After feeling flat and lacking energy on carnivore I recently introduced some limited quality carbs over a 3-day period into my carb diet and my energy level and strength numbers ROCKETED up over a 48 hour period. Tomorrow I go strict again but wanted to invite this conversation piece for discussion.
Look into iodine. Or just eat more meat. When I cut "calories" I get weaker in the gym. If I eat 1lb of beef per day I can still maintain lifting every other day, but 3lbs of beef per day I can lift every day with higher intensity.
I also need to maintain my cardiovascular health. I train guys half my age for work in the field and it involves a decent amount of walking. At 51 I utilize a fair amount of shorter duration HIIT to spare muscle but also partake in spin classes with my wife who instructs. I’m a former personal trainer but my father had heart surgery at 42 and never fully recovered so health history is a concern.
Type 2l muscle fibers are purely glycolytic. In my experience, muscle glycogen never truly returns to high carb diet status, particularly in the upper body on ketogenic diets. No matter how long you're adapted. Keto is great for dieting, weight maintenance, & moderate intensity, high volume work like a lot of walking, but will tank high intensity performance and definitely isn't optimal for muscle gain. I have been on and off "carnivore" for 15 years since it was called "zero carb". The best option IMO is a super-high carb, super low fat, moderate protein day at the frequency you need. Then go straight back into low carb and you'll be back in ketosis in 24-48 hours after burning hepatic glyocgen off, but with full muscle glycogen status for a while which won't be burned until you need it. PS don't fall into dogma here not everyone is well suited biologically to keto diets. @@silverback7348
Dr Cywes is on fire. he's wrong about Carnivore though. He can keep creating scenarios that don't exist but with respect, Carnivore has saved my own life and the lives of countless others. He's a great guy and I agree with a lot of his other points and research.
He is seeing thousands of patients and you think he's making up what he's seeing in the blood work after a while. I'm GLAD he's asking the questions about possible problems rather than making stuff up to try to explain it away!
@@ellek6505he didn't say he doubts the lab readings. It seems more like he's implying that he doesn't agree with or find valid the conclusions and opinions that cywes derived from those results.
I think he's more of appealing to the masses kind of guy and helping people vs going all out 100% lion diet for example. I don't think this is a discussion where he is arguing against carnivore, its about perspective.
Dr. Rob is missing parts of the benefit’s of being a carnivore. I think he’s right about the addiction part. when I went carnivore my addiction to snacking went away.
I love watching all the different Carnivore videos and agree totally. However no one talks about the issues with carbohydrate addiction and how we need to figure out our personal emotional modulation to be truly successful. I'm super grateful for Dr. Cywes and his different approach. Terrific interview. Thank you Dr. Chaffee 😊
I’m thrilled to see this duo together! I have been following both for awhile now and love the results with going carnivore ! My A1c is 5.3 , lost 60 lbs , and now considering doing the society of metabolic health training :: the pathway to being a metabolic health practitioner to add to mental health counseling practice . I don’t think it’s ethical for me to not add the nutrition wellness component to make it more holistic
Thank you for this great interview. Dr Cywes helped me get more confident as a LADA. He is amazing. And I have developed a complete aversion and disgust to all starchy and sugary food. Been mainly carnivore for a while now
Week 3 of carnivore with intermittent fasting 18/6 . I’m Type 2 and decided it was time to put my type 2 into remission. No carbs no sugar! Basically steak and eggs with avocados! Results so far! Blood sugars down from 14ml to 9. Hba1c down from 115 to 94! First week was horrendous! No energy. Wanted to sleep all the time. Was close to giving up! Just started to feel myself again! 14 years type 2. Came off all my drugs. Metformin etc! A little early to say if this is the method but the results so far are very dramatic!
…my dad too. It was interesting because I told my dad I stopped drinking coffee and he said “me too!” I was so surprised because we didn’t tell each other anything. It just happened naturally😄
Enjoyed most of his points, but I lost him at 54:45. Some of us “evangelists” avoid seasoning because we experienced extreme symptom relief by eliminating that one last straw in our plant toxin intake. Very far from “pathology” or orthorexia in the context of individual sensitivity.
I agree, I don't think it's orthorexia to recognize what harms you and what doesn't, and I don't think that's what he was talking about. I have seen what he is talking about, where people get fairly obsessed with what they are eating, even if they are eating something we would consider very healthy like a carnivore diet. But you can do it in a bit of an unhealthy way, which is what he was talking about. But I totally agree, if you eat certain things and it makes you feel worse, and you don't need them, and they don't benefit you, then obviously it's a pretty normal decision not to eat them again.
@@Arcadia61 yeah. Gut and skin issues vanished after taking away seasonings like pepper and garlic whilst already carnivore. You can’t inject sarcasm and closedmindedness when the personal context of each patient’s sensitivity is the primary factor. This is the exact reason the medical community sneers at this WOE and thus causes millions to suffer without knowing a simple solution.
By far the best interview... he is spot on with everything.. I myself have been on every diet, and they have worked to a point ... And I have always said it all starts in the brain .. fix the mental aspect, and you will thrive until then. You're stuck with ground hog way of life
I love this interview. Finally someone who doesn’t want to push any individual into their own narrative or perspective, but help them find the easiest path to health in their own way!
His expression says it all. I find Cywes to be rude, know it all, and Chaffee can't get a word in. His whole persona rubs me the wrong way. I listen to ALL these doctors, but he won't be on that list.
@@audreygregis8721 it was very offensive when he told Dr Chaffee his brain surgery was mutilation. I think it's because he gets accused of that because he does bariatric surgery. 2 totally different modalities. He just gives off the vibe of having a huge chip on his shoulder and massively passive aggressive with his defensiveness, projection, snark. I found him very depressing. So negative. No one in the carnivore community comes across this way. Admittedly I'm only 2 months in.
@@leeannruth1587 First, welcome to the Carnivore movement!!! I agree with every word you said. I made myself listen to the whole interview, but it just made me feel very annoyed. It's the first time I got nothing from a Carnivore interview. Dr. Chaffee, actually every doctor and influencer I've listened to has always been polite, humble, and truly nice people. Nothing like this Cywes guy...and I'll be Carnivore for 5yrs come July, turning 70 in a couple weeks. I would never never waste my time listening to him again. I had looked him up and found he is a bariatric surgeon. When he said it's the last resort, I totally did not believe that statement, rather it's how he makes his money.
Type 2 diabetic here and all the diabetic drugs slowly stopped working for me and my A1C went up to 10.7. Switched to Carnivore diet and 3 months later I’m down to 6.8 A1C
We need more doctors like Dr Cywes who order blood tests with lots of obscure tests. There are so many available blood tests out there that could be checked and could very well be off, but we would never know about it because the Dr doesn’t order it. Here’s a perfect example. My vitamin D was low about 6 months ago. I was feeling off and I felt better very soon after supplementing. I paid for the test myself. I’ve never been checked in my whole life at any point by any doctor. I guess the $30 it costs is too much for routine blood work
@Harold, yep! Dr Ken Berry has a book on what labs to get checked yearly. I’m doing that process right now! Own your labs is who I’ll be doing my testing with.
2 year carnivore here. I’ve lost over 500 lbs (yes, not a typo!). I was trapped inside my own obesity. I failed many diets. I failed lap band surgery. Carnivore works! Being 800lbs was restrictive. Eating strict carnivore has freed me from thinking about food 24/7, I now have an off switch. Eating carbs awakens those cravings for me. So for me, it's best to abstain. I understand and accept that. It works for me and I am loving and living my life again. I will never go back! Thanks for all you do Dr Chaffee!
Wow! Congratulations! This makes me wonder if the over 600lb people on that reality show should be put on Carnivore instead of a seemingly difficult 1,200 calorie, low carb diet. I imagine it must be so difficult to go from eating 4,000 or more calories a day down to 1,200 and sticking with it.
So proud of you. Memories of my 500 lb grandmother sent me on a road of yo yo dieting my whole life. She died at 52. I am mostly carnivore now and do pretty well except for the diet soda. I get angry at myself but working on it! Love both of these doctors!
Go Lindy! 🎉
Congratulations !
Wow, big congrats!
Does anyone else go to the comments for anecdotes while we listen and then Listen again? I love all these success stories.
The comment sections are more helpful than any RUclips video I've watched on this subject
@@GoneCarnivore
Yes!! It was RUclips comments that brought me to carnivore! I’m so thankful to kind souls willing to help others. ❤
Yep! I love reading these testimonies, they are both inspiring and heart warming. ❤
Yip doing it now😂
Love reading the comments, there are some really helpful replies. ❤
"Vegetables don't have enough meat" was a chuckling gem for me!
Arby's is trying to change that
Vegetables are alive, meat is dead food. Dr. Chafee's eyes look like the dead cow he eats, doesn't show he has a lively life force within him. Look at his eyes. Wow.
"where's the beef"!
I’ve been keto since 2017. About 6 months ago I moved closer to carnivore. The last month or so I’ve been almost 100% carnivore. Thanks to these two doctors and Dr Berry.
I’m 74 and this old dog is learning new tricks. I feel 20 years younger than my age.
blissings
I'm on the same journey as you, I'm 42yrs of age, been 95% carnivore since July 2023 and I feel like I'm in my 20's again
How do you know how you should feel at your age?
@@notjustforme Maybe because he has only done this for 6 months and know how he felt prior?
That was one of the biggest- most notibile changes I noticed as well, when I shifted away from consuming plants, drop kicking sugar/processed foods, seed oils to the curb. The closer I moved towards Carnivore.. the better I felt. I do however consume Avacads, dairy-heavy cream to keep the fat to protein ration in check.
I heard Dr. Berry explaining CARNIVORE one day, the next day I started a strict CARNIVORE way of eating. I'm in my 19+ months and loving it, feeling my best ever. I'll never go back to carbs and junk!!!!c
diet is so much shorter and mess annoying than "way of eating". the word diet may have a negative connotation but thats just connotation. the definition is simple and useful. carnivore diet is accurate.
carbs are no "junk"... stop this bullshit... ther are healthy carbs which are completely fine... but you weak souls probably overate with french fries and donuts and now you are demonizing carbs...
Keep us posted!
@@Jay-h9d9h
I also do the carnivore way of eating!
I’m 2month in. Just had a big meal last night, I ate about 200g of vegetables fresh and fermented, I feel very bloated today. I have more energy though, probably because carb retains more electrolytes.
What Dr. Rob said about babies eating, I can testify to the truth, back in 1985, when I had my child at a military Air Force base, they told me to feed her 4oz of breast milk or formula a day and that’s it.
So me, as an inexperienced mother and didn’t grow up around anyone having children, I listened to them and in no time at all, after we got home, the child started having problems, crying all the time and gnawing the back of her fists!!! 😱
Fortunately, we were living with her grandmother at the time, who diagnosed her, having raised 4 children and said this child is HUNGRY!!! 😳
I told her what the doctor said and she said they are wrong, FEED HER TILL SHE’S FULL!
That’s what I did. She stopped gnawing the back of her fists and crying all the time and was the happiest baby around! 🙌 🕊️ 🙌
Their excuse for doing this, was to keep them from becoming obese adults!!! 🤨
Killing them as babies, with this method, would definitely work, as they would never see adulthood!!! 😫
Thankful I had help and they didn’t get to kill my baby with their LIE!
🙏 ✝️ 🙏
Exact same thing happened in 2021 in Geneva, Switzerland… yeah. My sister gave birth to her first born son and he had a big appetite. The doctors and whoever it was DEMONS told her to feed him with a little bottle of milk. My nephew was constantly crying and under stress because he wanted more milk!! It was excruciating painful to listen to him cry of hunger while my sister was oblivious to the sound advice of our mother!! Our mother was devasted she couldn’t believe that my sister wouldn’t listen to us and instead fully obeyed to the doctors… Til this day me and mom suffer when we recall those moments… it was sooooo clear the kid was hungry! My mom had to sneak in additional portions of formula when my sister and her stubborn husband were not around and 100% of the time my nephew would drink until he was full and he would feel calm and super relaxed and would fall asleep deeply immediately after being satiated. Me and mom all we did was exchange looks and nod our heads. …
@@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql
😭 I’m so sorry. I couldn’t stand hearing my nephew cry when he was a baby!! So sorry he and y’all had to go through that. I hope your sister is more aware now. 🙏🏻
@@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql this was excruciating to read, I couldn't imagine how awful it felt to actually live it! 💔
This is nuts 😮
You’re right. Counting calories and portion control takes away the joy of eating 🥣. People say that eating until you’re full makes you a glutton and thus makes you fat. My cholesterol is high but I don’t really care. It’s tempting trust me. I really feel bad as if I have been disobedient and sinful for not listening to my doctors 🥼 advice and family. Congratulations 🎊🎉🎈🍾 keep up the good work
Doc Chaffee, you were a truly gracious host tonight and it allowed Doc Cywes to shine! Tremendous stream.
Thank you so much for watching. I enjoyed it as well and thought it was a respectful discussion between two professionals. Very refreshing these days!
I love Dr Chaffee’s classy advertisement even. 👍 ❤ 👌
Couldn't get a word in edgewise
I don't think Cywes shined. He seemed arrogant, self righteous, and "dogmatic"
it seemed as if his only reason for coming on was to say what he wanted to say, block Anthony from speaking, responding, or directing the conversation in any way, and to put Anthony in his place.
@@Jay-h9d9hI was looking for this comment
Dr. Chaffee is always so humble and gracious with his guests. ❤ We know he can debate people under the table and yet he stays patient and lets his guests talk.
Thank you, I appreciate that!
I'm sure this makes him a wonderful doctor!
I agree!
Such a placid demeanour ❤ I always think he should narrate sleep stories (in his spare time) his voice his Sooo soothing 😊❤
I so agree, I love dr rob but, he does take over when in reality he could listen to his colleagues with some humility . Dr Anthony was gracious and courteous ! A real gentleman . Both are great teachers I just wish dr rob would tone it down or show a little humility .
I love what Dr Cywes said about switching carb addiction to creative or spiritual pursuits. I just started restoring motorcycles with all my extra energy and it totally worked! We absolutely need to have new creative things to do.
That’s amazing!! Well done!! So inspiring, people thrive when they are creative… religion aside but, the fact is, Jesus was a carpenter for a reason… 😊❤
You're absolutely right. I know that I do much better health wise when my mind is occupied. I can sit in front of the TV all day and mindlessly feed on junk but if I'm up and active then I can definitely manage my addictive eating.
So true; I think I now understand why stress always leads me back to food; we need other outlets to get endorphin production.
You are so right! I spend a lot of time in my sewing room, then walk into the family room and lift weights when I need to get up and move.
@@cynthiagilbreth1352I’m just learning to sew at 60 and I LOVE it!!!
This might be the best thing ever. Chafees stuff convinced me to go carnivore, cyves has kept going and helped me understand carb addiction.
Anthony, I commend your grace and patience as a host. Well done!
Thank you very much!
It amazes me
How patient he is
Ty
I might surmise that meat only has a calming effect, except.... there are some self-proclaimed carnivores in the online space who seem to have a chip on their shoulder and be on edge/extra snarky. *shrug* maybe coffee or something extra going on for those folk... or I should say temperament is about more than diet
@MississippiJapan I started out nice and patient but now I assume it's testosterone thing going on inside of me causing me to be agitated and very aggressive easily. Wonder if dr chaffee can talk about that.
@@mikepullman2513 Apparently there's actually evidence in the opposite direction: lack of meat leads to higher aggression. (I'm trying to remember the specific correlation.... the measurement is violence I think, like criminally measured violence, and the factor is low saturated fat or low cholesterol or something. Whatever it is, it's something associated with meat consumption and _consistent_ studies show that people who lack it are statistically more violent.) I think Dr. Chaffee talked about testosterone specifically in a recent video, at least one I recently watched. And he brought this up (and isn't the only one).
If you're experiencing _more_ agitation and aggression on carnivore, that sounds odd to me. Would be interesting to hear Dr. Chaffee discuss it again though, for sure. Maybe there's a bell curve where a minority of people get more aggressive for some reason, while the majority get less aggressive. Or maybe the bell curve is across time and you just haven't gotten to the 'zen' phase? In my experience, I started off agitated and carnivore brought me calm.
With all the dogma and rigidity in the Carnivore universe right now, these 2 enormously accomplished brains made space for each other. As always, Dr Chaffee was the most gracious host and guide- I keep coming back to his videos over and over again. I learned a ton- thank you!
Just my story and experience to caution with excessive veggies for some people. I did the keto diet for 7 years, ate 7-10 cups veggies a day, high fat, medium protein. I developed gut issues, dysbiotic flora, gut yeast, and joint pain (oxalate build up). No doctor or naturopath told me to reduce my veggies! One doctor wanted to inject my finger with steroids after telling me nothing showed up on the xray! I am about 2 months in on meat, butter, eggs, cream. My joint pain is gone, I am feeling super strong these days, my hair is not falling out, and my sleep patterns according to my smart watch are in the excellent zone. Going from keto, to ketovore, to carnivore definitely helped in the way of "giving" thinks up. I am still a coffee drinker and will have a glass of organic wine, but my labs are very optimal, ast, alt under 20. Insulin is 3.6, CRP is less than 1. I suppose I will try a veggie here or there some day, but I am always too full from beef, eggs, and butter to have any room for them! 😁
Nice ! Very similar to my own story, prior years of a vegetarian based diet almost ruined my health ! 4 years ago I switched to a ketogenic animal based foods diet and I stay mostly animal based foods with a few fermented foods and am in ketosis most of the time and feeling better than ever in my life !
I started carnivore a year ago, lost 26 lbs.in the first five months. All kinds of benefits, mental clarity, elimination of back pain and knee pain, eczema disappeared. Lost a total of 17 inches. Went off the rails at christmas and into Feb. Went back to eating awful. Back pain and knee pain came back with a vengeance. gained back 6 pounds, gain back some inches and just felt like crap. 3 days ago I went back on carnivore and the knee and back pain has gone and I feel so much better. I'm now completely convinced and staying on it for good.
I noticed you said off the rails and eating awful. There's the problem. I'm 80 and tired of all the junkies ruining everything for everyone else.
I get your frustration. Eating healthy carbs can make a very positive difference, especially if you’ve been eating all the highly processed foods that combine sugar, fat, and seed oils. But do you ever consider that even the healthy carbs are addictive? For example: fruit. I’m never tempted to overeat meat, fish, or eggs. But once I start eating fruit, I can’t stop until it’s gone.
@@Vinny-no9bdgo to bed Vinny !!! Take your geratol first
Your testimony is a gr8 example of how a setback can be beneficial…! 👍
@@catsrus2890 does it matter? She knows that her way of eating at Xmas thru Feb made her feel lousy, and going back to carnivore makes her feel great.
3 year carnivore.
After enough experimenting - fruit on, off, honey on, off, any carbs on - off -- I'm fully on just meat alone and just recently been able to get off my caffeine addiction. I am super grateful to carnivore. I've also been a nutrition coach for the past 9 years and my wellbeing has deteriorated when I was following everything by the book. "eat the rainbow" "carbs every few hours" etc and I'm sharing the carnivore message with my friends, family, team and loved ones.
Chaffee is becoming the world's best interviewer. Thank you for giving Dr Cywes the space he needed to explain Dr Chaffee- humble and intelligent. Thank you
Great interview, I have a lot from these 2 Drs. The biggest thing that I now know is that carbohydrates are what are killing us. Since going carnivore I no longer crave alcohol, have no joint/nerve pain, better skin, sleep better, and the list goes on.
These two doctors are pure GOLD. Almost 2 years following Keto. Type 1 Diabetic with a A1C of 5.8.
I'm excited for this one. I had the wonderful opportunity to meet Dr Cywes at a conference I attended. Both men are very knowledgeable and widespread on their beliefs within the carnivore range.
Me too! Dr. Cywes is one of the few I listen to regularly. Really respect his objective take on things.
RUTT RO@@scoobydadog246
I liked this Doctor. It was a great discussion ping-pong with Dr.Chafee. He is not as radical and presents a very balanced and supported hypothesis.
I have been on the carnivore diet for 5 months, type 2 diabetes for at least 30 years, normal A1C, triglyceride levels -> 88
I had basically the same trig/hdl readings. I’ve been going for a year and a half. I’ve been kind of curious why my trigs are so much higher than other people who have a 1/1 ratio.
Wow!! 🤩 huge congrats, you regained power over your life and i am happy for you, although i don’t know you, we are both on team truth, team health!!
Dr Cywes humour is so subtle at times…I wonder if it goes over many in the audience’s heads?
I love it!
When he started pumping Ozempic I quit.
@@denisedecker7330I have a girlfriend. Well OVER 300 -350 . Pounds. 5’1”. She’s been trying SO hard for 10 years to loose weight. Last week she told me her blood pressure was almost at STROKE levels. Her cardiologist has given up. She’s making kidney stones every other month. Constant lithotripsy procedures. Fatty liver, etc. I’ve begged her to try carnivore. She acts like she doesn’t even hear me. I think she’s tried and utterly failed. I’m normal weight but I have a carb addiction. I used to eat sweets then not eat for 1-2 days to punish myself for my weakness. But back to my gf.
They asked her to do Ozempic last year, she refused. But now she’s gained even more. So she has become desperate. She’s going to take the injections. She doesn’t want to die but she cannot seem to quit eating. I think she might be going into heart failure. I support her decision. And get this.
She’s an ICU nurse. She knows sugar can KILL her. She’s an Angel. An Angel with an addiction. I think some us can succeed at overcoming addictions. Others cannot.
My point is I think “O” better than death
The purist and the semi-carnivore. Interesting conversation. I prefer to be more strict. I'm too sensitive to a lot of plant things anyway so keeping it pure works best for me. Admittedly I gotta let go of the coffee addiction. I know for sure that it is a negative for me. 19 months carnivore and age 63. Can't believe it took me 2/3 or half of my life span to figure out what allows me to be healthy.
Yeah I'm the same way, I just feel so much better being strict that it's a no-brainer for me. Glad you're doing so much better! When you do get off the coffee, you will be glad you did. It actually makes a big difference. Good luck with it!
@@anthonychaffeemdthank you. I have come to realize that I'll be happier and do better without the coffee. It's that addiction thing. I guess it gives me an ounce more sympathy for the people who struggle to give up all their addictions including fruit and sugar. I don't miss them one bit! But since I have a tiny monkey on my back I do really realize that people are addicted to their carbs. Most people I know can't actually won't do this, especially as purists.
I have one friend who has changed and is eating a lot of meat and feeling much better and enjoying better Health. Plus my 24 year old son is making meat the main part of everything that he eats everyday. And I spread your word as much as I can. Appreciate your work so much.
"I have a phd, it says so on my shirt"... I enjoyed that way too much
I already had a high opinion of Dr Chaffee and knowing that Dr Cywes had some differing views than Dr Chaffee, I was interested to see how Dr Chaffee would react. Couldn’t be more impressed!!! Utmost respect!!
Outstanding interview.
Kudos to Dr C for allowing Dr Cywes present his opinions and concerns even though some of them conflicted with his opinions. Makes for a great discussion.
Unfortunately it wasn't much of a discussion it was a lecture by Cywes...and for what? What was his point at the end of all this
His point was: be very careful about assuming that you have things “figured out.” Keep monitoring health, keep monitoring blood work, don’t assume that because everything is fine now, it’ll still be fine in a year or three or eight. Up until this point, there has been a lot of greed, ideology and hubris that has poisoned most of dietary research. He was advocating (even though he believes in carnivore) NOT being like the plant based people, who are in many cases almost cult-like. I happen to be one of those people whose blood sugar raises (and stays high) when I’m really high in protein consumption, but I do better when I eat lots of fat. Many of the influencers in the carnivore space are becoming every bit as puritanical as the plant based folks, and Dr. Cywes always advocates against that.
Dr Chaffee has very unique habit of letting his guest actually speak without interrupting and letting them get their point across which can be, at times very complex and not easy for regular people to digest, so to speak. Dr.Cywes whole point is to get people to think! He is not out to create clone type thinkers based on what he eats or shove supplements or some such stuff out on the back end of his interview. @@michelletrippi7782
@@t1mpaniI think Dr. Cywes may be projecting here. He presents his ideas dogmatically. For example, he made a clickbait video claiming ectopic fat in the abdomen isn't a problem. This contradicts established medical knowledge and he offers no empirical evidence to support his claim. He tends to repeat unsubstantiated hypotheses as fact. Additionally, his 'apology' video about Omega-3 dosage was concerning. He advocated for an extremely high intake without evidence, a level that would be unsustainable for most human cultures away from coastal areas. These are two concerning videos that I encountered while watching his entire back catalog. After that, I decided to unsubscribe from the channel.
No conversation - just a man who took over the entire time to preach his point of view. Kudos to Dr. Chaffee for his silent patience.
The humility of Dr Chaffee is a hallmark of a true doctor and scientist! Thank you Dr Chaffee we are in the infancy of learning carnivore, mistakes will be made but still we’ll get real science happening!! ❤
As a carb addict transitioning to eating carnivore, I can say that you don’t eat carbs because you have disordered eating, you eat them because your physiological response to normal stressors is so extreme and you then feel like you need carbs to curb the massive blood sugar drop. I have experienced a panic attack while on carbs and while on this diet and it’s shocking how dull it feels as a carnivore. So have some compassion for the carb addicts who are experiencing a storm of emotions and are on a roller coaster they can’t get off.
Dr Eric Berg says anxiety is a B1 deficiency and can also be triggered by caffeine. Dr Shawn Baker says it’s due to lack of red meat.
By dull you mean relaxed or lack energy?
I'm on a 48 hour fast, feeling superb and clear headed, but am also really looking forward to my steak, liver and chicken wings tomorrow. As an ex-cigarette smoker I can tell that there is a massive difference between being hungry for carbs and sugar (it's like being desperate for a cigarette), compared to "real" healthy hunger for a juicy piece of meat.
I wish everyone good luck and great health on their carnivore/ketovore journey. Thank you to Dr. Chaffee and Dr. Cywes!
IT'S THE SUGAR, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SUGAR! This is a great interview with Dr Cywes about his doctoral work on how sugar causes an inflamatory response in the artheries . Thank you both.
Important doctors these two.
Omg Dr.Cywes awesome explanation of my food issues!
So good to see all the success stories in these comments. This community is the best.
8 weeks carniversary just passed, loving it! Cured depression, food freedom is amazing and feels so easy on my stomach, delicious, satiating, and now caring for a woman with diabetes, chronic autoimmune and mental healh issues and the team and her have agreed for her to go on keto which is one giant step in a very good direction for her health. Btw she has expressed interest in carnivore diet if she knew there was someone who has diabetes, lupus and schizophrenia who have had all 3 greatly improved or in remission through carnivore diet. She can't face giving up other foods at this point but the possibility of serious relief from her health issues could motivate her to try she has said
I myself have lost 86 pounds since july of 23.
No more high BP. No more IBS.
There are so many other problems disappearing. God bless these Dr's. ❤❤❤
Thank you for letting this play out almost 2 hrs. So many are committed to that 1 hr mark and clearly stop the discussion short at that point when you would love to hear the natural completion of the topic and discussion.
I think my new favourite video for inspiration, today my life changed as I passed my qualification to be an advanced clinical practitioner.. next is to get my metabolic health practitioner qualification .. along with all that I am a new and repeatedly ‘failing’ carnivore but tomorrow is a new Day 1 with added mental focus and positive outlook. Thanks gents 😊
Congratulations!
You might check out Sugar and Carb Addicts Anonymous or one of the support groups lead by Kelly Hogan or Dr. Joan Iffland.
I have been on a long journey to quell my sugar and carb addiction. I’m sooooooooo much better when I have consistent support.
Good luck to you🎉
Good luck with your journey!
I’ve started “carnivore” over & over again about 10 times in 4 years. This past year, my fasting glucose started to stay in the 90’s ALL day. So now the bad habits are starting to catch up. Before it was just attempts to overcome carb addiction but Blood glucose levels were ALWAYS in the 70’s. It’s show time for me now, so DAILY I listen to Cywes, Ken Berry, Ben Bickmen, and Sten Eckburg. To keep the momentum going. And also wearing a CGM. But it’s frustrating because it’s misreads a LOT & I’m still needing to stick my finger 😑
That was amaaaaaaaazing!!! Love Dr Cywes & Dr Chaffee. You have both changed my life for the better. Bless you both for not following the norm & for educating us. ❤
Thank you so much! I'm really glad you liked it! And I'm very, very glad that your life has improved from this advice. Keep it up!
Anthony Chaffee and Dr Ken Berry who motivate me the most. Most of other doctors are confusing.
Berry? He pushes coffee and we know that's a plant so there goes him being carnivore. He's an omnivore.
@@Vinny-no9bdhe doesn’t push coffee, he just likes it. Chill out 😅
Dr Berry has taught me that coffee can be harmless for many people. I am not one of those people, but so what? I assure you I’m omnivore in other ways, eg come autumn I’m foraging wild berries for hours each day…! 🍓
@@Vinny-no9bdthis is your position....? Like dogma brainwashed kid.......huuuhuu Dr Berry drinks coffee he's omnivore/evil....🤦
Btw..... Show me where exactly he pushes a coffee....!??
Agree!!! They keep it simple!!
This guy was excellent! Thank you for hosting Dr. AC!
Thank you very much I'm glad you liked it!
Carbs WERE LITERALLY killing MEEEE!! These two doctors along with several others promoting and teaching carnivore eating are the heroes of my life…info that LITERALLY saved my life😮😮😮❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Eating fruit and rice was killing you?
@@markaguilera493
They sure were for me and millions of others!
@@markaguilera493 yes yes yes! Raise glucose significantly and can cause inflammation in many, including me.
@@marianne1959 Then you're having too much.
Carbs were killing you? Or maybe just cutting out the garbage and not overeating did that? Perhaps it’s not going carnivore. Just a crazy thought
I'm 35 years old now and after a year on carnivore my body looks like it did back in high-school wrestling/football and my health has greatly improved as well. I feel great, look great, and have an all around better outlook on life. Carnivore always felt intuitive to me, and it's good now to know my intuition was right
I struggle ao much with carb addiction. Its real i seem to be able to get 24hr and then fall. As always I started today and praying for the willpower to succeed.
Only fat and protein will fix that. Trust me I know. Not will power. When a carb craving hits eat bacon and eggs or meat . Over time carbs don't seem as appealing plus your appetite goes way down . Take one day at a time.
If you are a praying person you might benefit from Sugar and Carb Addicts Anonymous. It is a free 12 step program just like AA.😊
I have had that same struggle my whole life. Keto (for 7 years) helped a LOT but I still would slip on occasion. It wasn’t until I completely gave up all plants, including stevia, monkfruit and allulose, that I could completely stop the cravings. When stress or emotions are extremely high I may still have a twinge of craving but a meal of beef and eggs will quell it always. The freedom I have as a carnivore is worth far more than any satisfaction I ever had from a special food. I’m right at 12 months of pure carnivore and feeling better than I’ve felt in decades. Still have not completely reached my ideal weight and still battling chronic Lyme disease and autoimmune issues so I’m introducing some fasting now. But even if this is “as good as it gets” for me I’m so much better than I have been in years!!
Oh wow! I love these two Drs!! Carnivore saved my life!!
LOLOL, oh goodness, your patience, that face, worth it all.
Love Dr Cywes! Can listen to him all day!
Just wow. Two of my favorite doctors! What a pleasure to follow you! I have learned so much from you both in the last years! From my bottom of my heart, I say Thank you!
Dr. Chaffee! What an outstanding interview with Dr. Robert Cywes. Dr. Cywes is a wealth of knowledge about so many things, especially the addiction model. I constantly learn new things from him. If you're reading this, Dr. Cywes: THANK YOU! I sure am glad MEAT is abundant now so we CAN be carnivores and be our healthiest selves. Dr. Chaffee, you and Dr. Shawn Baker are my #1s for learning about the carnivore way of eating. All Three of you I owe a debt of gratitude for educating me. I am in the best health of my life because of all that I have applied from you (plural.)
As Dr Berry has said, Dr Cywes is also a research PhD and wonders out loud in all his conversations. Some listeners have a knee jerk reaction that they are being challenged or cancelled by his information but the very opposite is reality as Dr Cywes goes out of his way to explain he eats carnivorously. He helps our Dr Heroes become better. Dr Chaffee is a model interviewer.
Just love how calm you were Dr Chaffee!! Stay cool calm and collected and keep doing your research to help those of us who believe eating animal protein without carbs is the optimal way to live 🙏
Towards the end I was beginning to get annoyed by how he kept interrupting you… you were the better gentleman
Listening 3, March 2024.
I appreciate both these Drs.
This hero changed my life
Dr Chafee, the perfect humble host! Never takes over trying to outdo! That is self assurance!
Dr. Chaffee is really humble, intelligent, patient, and such a pleasure to listen to! He is always so clear and articulates frequently that his plan is for him and works for him. He shares wonderfully, scientifically, and in laymen's terms. He is destined to change lives for generations. His words have triggered my husband and I to do a 30-day Carnivore challenge. We are on day 4 and actually feel very satisfied! I am a data collector, so I track the protein/fat carbs for us; and my hubbie just eats what I give him with a happy face. He weighttrains and is a martial artist and works full-time as a mechanic and a part-time college instructor. He burns at least 3000 cals per day and I cannot get him to eat enough. I just keep listening and learn new ideas from Dr. Chaffee. BTW, your time spent with Maggie!!! I totally loved that. Thank you for all your time and sharing.
Dr. Chaffee you are a wonderful interviewer. I can tell by your face you have some thoughts that don’t necessarily agree with everything that was said, but you were an amazing host.
This segment should be mandatory of all highschools curriculum around the planet.
What a great discussion between these two amazing doctors. Thank you both for your time and sharing of this information and your opinions. Very helpful and encouraging.
Love love LOVE!! Thank you guys! Never stop what you're doing - spreading the TRUTH! Amazing.
Thank you so much I'm glad you liked it!
I've not said this for a while so: Dr Chaffee, you are STILL the most attractive man on YT 😉😘❤
The skin on his face is amazing! I think that both these men are very attractive, but I am presumably far older than you are and Dr. Chaffee is a bit too young for me. Age does make a difference.
Dr Anthony, the picture of health and the countenance of joy and peace. Love that!
That was both fascinating and thought provoking. It’s refreshing to see experts willing to prod and poke at their own beliefs
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
Oxalates in pepper is high. Oxalates are the big problem for everyone over time.
Yes, i stopped black pepper a few months ago, and i really notice my stomach is much better for it.
Last year time I read how bad oxalates were and discovered that most of my go-to(s) were oxalate foods......loads of almonds, peanuts, sweet potatoes, some greens. Thought I was eating to protect myself from chronic illness but was soon in for a rude awakening.
It may be the pepper that he is consuming which is holding back the oxalate dumping, and the coffee of course. I am two year carnivore and stopped coffee three weeks ago. I suffered oxalate dumping in the for of spots on my face, red eyes and achy limbs. It's about cleared now and so glad I gave up coffee- it's not conducive to a carnivore diet really I don't think.
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@deva190 Unpleasant surprise, but you've pieced it together before almost everyone. People don't know about this stuff.
You guys are gems, loved at 50 minutes how you make this point that is so open to show us what is life.
I'm at the lowest weight I've been since college, hovering around 170 lbs. I'm 61. I've been struggling to be consistently carnivore and suspect that it has a lot to do with not being able to picture myself at less than 160 lbs. I'm wearing a size 10! Smaller than that is unimaginable and I think I'm scared that I won't recognize myself - and won't be able to handle the attention it may bring.
Same story here. But I did a lot of diets and that always brought me back to about 160 lbs. Carnivore for a year now and last summer I reached 120 lbs. During the Christmas period I made a mistake with cheese and still struggle with it. Every day I try to keep the weight off and have gained 6 lbs. It's so hard even though I have a health problem that doesn't allow me to eat any carbs, not even eggs. My partner is not a carnivore and eats cheese on bread every day, so not bringing it into the house is not an option. But I still want to get back to less than 120 lbs because I was so proud and it felt so good to be able to wear all those beautiful clothes. Good luck to us 👋
Thanks for your honesty. Your story reminds me of a chunky acquaintance in high school who claimed she almost preferred being over-fat to being slender and in demand. She described her body fat as a sort of protective duvet quilt, cushioning her from the demands of the people around her. 😮
The attention yes ppl go nuts when you get hot. Hard to handle.
I don't want to go below 160, over the holidays l put 11 tubs of ice cream down over a week and a half and was back to 162 pounds in a couple weeks, carnivore is so crazy for staying lean, so weight gain requires work now, been carnivore 5 years
That's a wonderful problem to have imho. Focus on your health and forget all else is my advice. Blessings.
Brilliant discussion at a gold standard level. Thank you, gentlemen!
Thank you very much I'm glad you liked it!
This was very good, thank you! I am going from keto/ketovor to carnivor but I think I will put a very small amount of carbohydrates to my diet after what dr Cywes said, just to be on a safe side. The psychology part in his own podcasts is briliant and helped me a lot to understand the carb addiction. He is the only one I've found who speeks about it. This is really important and should be talked more about since not everyone really understands what takes them back to carbs and how to deal with it.
You can tell who is 100% zero carb because they are calm and good LISTENERS ...😂
Dont get me wrong I love Dr Cyves😃❤
Two of my favorite doctors. Great information always.
OMG my 2 favorite Docs! Can't wait!❤
Good episode! Really enjoyed it. Hate that people that are such good critical thinkers and yet they still believe in "evolution" regardless of the total lack of evidence.
I found this video very interesting, but I tended to zone out a bit with all the talk about ‘blood work’. Here in the UK blood work is not done routinely and I keep away from the gp surgery as much as possible. I have to go on ‘how I feel’ and find the simple approach that Dr Chaffee promotes to be adequate for me.
I’m in U.K. too. I totally agree with you. I have under active thyroid. No full blood test. Only synthetic option to help. Being our own doctor is only option. ❤
Very much agreed. Don't care for much testing!
The blood tells the truth.
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Definitely the way to go, if possible!
@@ellek6505The blood doesn't tell you what is IN the cell.
I love these two men and how their philosophies juxtapose.
I’d like to see a response to carb cycling for athletic performance. I know this is highly contested amongst performance specialists.
After feeling flat and lacking energy on carnivore I recently introduced some limited quality carbs over a 3-day period into my carb diet and my energy level and strength numbers ROCKETED up over a 48 hour period.
Tomorrow I go strict again but wanted to invite this conversation piece for discussion.
Look into iodine. Or just eat more meat. When I cut "calories" I get weaker in the gym. If I eat 1lb of beef per day I can still maintain lifting every other day, but 3lbs of beef per day I can lift every day with higher intensity.
I also need to maintain my cardiovascular health. I train guys half my age for work in the field and it involves a decent amount of walking. At 51 I utilize a fair amount of shorter duration HIIT to spare muscle but also partake in spin classes with my wife who instructs. I’m a former personal trainer but my father had heart surgery at 42 and never fully recovered so health history is a concern.
Type 2l muscle fibers are purely glycolytic. In my experience, muscle glycogen never truly returns to high carb diet status, particularly in the upper body on ketogenic diets. No matter how long you're adapted. Keto is great for dieting, weight maintenance, & moderate intensity, high volume work like a lot of walking, but will tank high intensity performance and definitely isn't optimal for muscle gain. I have been on and off "carnivore" for 15 years since it was called "zero carb". The best option IMO is a super-high carb, super low fat, moderate protein day at the frequency you need. Then go straight back into low carb and you'll be back in ketosis in 24-48 hours after burning hepatic glyocgen off, but with full muscle glycogen status for a while which won't be burned until you need it. PS don't fall into dogma here not everyone is well suited biologically to keto diets.
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All3 of us are feeling flat on strict carnivore. So we fix that by doing this carb day?
Less energy here as well after 6+ months carnivore. I’ll be adding in fruit & honey per Paul Saladino.
We are so blessed that y’all take time to educate us
Dr Cywes is on fire. he's wrong about Carnivore though. He can keep creating scenarios that don't exist but with respect, Carnivore has saved my own life and the lives of countless others. He's a great guy and I agree with a lot of his other points and research.
He is seeing thousands of patients and you think he's making up what he's seeing in the blood work after a while. I'm GLAD he's asking the questions about possible problems rather than making stuff up to try to explain it away!
@@ellek6505he didn't say he doubts the lab readings. It seems more like he's implying that he doesn't agree with or find valid the conclusions and opinions that cywes derived from those results.
I think he's more of appealing to the masses kind of guy and helping people vs going all out 100% lion diet for example. I don't think this is a discussion where he is arguing against carnivore, its about perspective.
What do u mean he's wrong, about what?
@user-kw8vh5yz8z About the interpretation of the lab readings. How does he know a number is appropriate or not? Only nature and the body know this.
Dr. Rob is missing parts of the benefit’s of being a carnivore. I think he’s right about the addiction part. when I went carnivore my addiction to snacking went away.
My coffee addiction went away 😊
I love watching all the different Carnivore videos and agree totally. However no one talks about the issues with carbohydrate addiction and how we need to figure out our personal emotional modulation to be truly successful. I'm super grateful for Dr. Cywes and his different approach. Terrific interview. Thank you Dr. Chaffee 😊
I’m thrilled to see this duo together! I have been following both for awhile now and love the results with going carnivore ! My A1c is 5.3 , lost 60 lbs , and now considering doing the society of metabolic health training :: the pathway to being a metabolic health practitioner to add to mental health counseling practice . I don’t think it’s ethical for me to not add the nutrition wellness component to make it more holistic
This was an amazing interview! Probably my most favorite interview you’ve done! ❤Thank you!!
One of the two best docs in one place! Love it.
These interviews are such treasures! Thank you for doing them!
Loved this! What a fantastic discussion. One to make you think that’s for sure. Thank you!
Thank you for this great interview. Dr Cywes helped me get more confident as a LADA. He is amazing. And I have developed a complete aversion and disgust to all starchy and sugary food. Been mainly carnivore for a while now
Week 3 of carnivore with intermittent fasting 18/6 . I’m Type 2 and decided it was time to put my type 2 into remission. No carbs no sugar! Basically steak and eggs with avocados! Results so far!
Blood sugars down from 14ml to 9. Hba1c down from 115 to 94!
First week was horrendous! No energy. Wanted to sleep all the time. Was close to giving up! Just started to feel myself again!
14 years type 2. Came off all my drugs. Metformin etc!
A little early to say if this is the method but the results so far are very dramatic!
When I went strict carnivore, my coffee addiction went away. 😊
…my dad too. It was interesting because I told my dad I stopped drinking coffee and he said “me too!” I was so surprised because we didn’t tell each other anything. It just happened naturally😄
Enjoyed most of his points, but I lost him at 54:45. Some of us “evangelists” avoid seasoning because we experienced extreme symptom relief by eliminating that one last straw in our plant toxin intake.
Very far from “pathology” or orthorexia in the context of individual sensitivity.
I agree, I don't think it's orthorexia to recognize what harms you and what doesn't, and I don't think that's what he was talking about. I have seen what he is talking about, where people get fairly obsessed with what they are eating, even if they are eating something we would consider very healthy like a carnivore diet. But you can do it in a bit of an unhealthy way, which is what he was talking about. But I totally agree, if you eat certain things and it makes you feel worse, and you don't need them, and they don't benefit you, then obviously it's a pretty normal decision not to eat them again.
'Extreme symptoms' by putting some pepper on your steak? And it ruffles your feathers to be called an evangelist? He was spot on with that one.
@@Arcadia61 yeah. Gut and skin issues vanished after taking away seasonings like pepper and garlic whilst already carnivore. You can’t inject sarcasm and closedmindedness when the personal context of each patient’s sensitivity is the primary factor. This is the exact reason the medical community sneers at this WOE and thus causes millions to suffer without knowing a simple solution.
By far the best interview... he is spot on with everything.. I myself have been on every diet, and they have worked to a point ... And I have always said it all starts in the brain .. fix the mental aspect, and you will thrive until then. You're stuck with ground hog way of life
Thank you so much! I'm really glad you enjoyed it so much.
Could have listened to you two talk all day! Great interview 👏
Thank you so much I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you! Two great doctors. You both explain things well. You both care so much.
Great conversation - thank you!
I love this interview. Finally someone who doesn’t want to push any individual into their own narrative or perspective, but help them find the easiest path to health in their own way!
Am I the only one that thinks Dr. Chaffee does not agree with him just by his facial expressions 😂. Love it! ❤
Me too!
No he is deep in concentration!
His expression says it all. I find Cywes to be rude, know it all, and Chaffee can't get a word in. His whole persona rubs me the wrong way. I listen to ALL these doctors, but he won't be on that list.
@@audreygregis8721 it was very offensive when he told Dr Chaffee his brain surgery was mutilation. I think it's because he gets accused of that because he does bariatric surgery. 2 totally different modalities. He just gives off the vibe of having a huge chip on his shoulder and massively passive aggressive with his defensiveness, projection, snark. I found him very depressing. So negative. No one in the carnivore community comes across this way. Admittedly I'm only 2 months in.
@@leeannruth1587 First, welcome to the Carnivore movement!!! I agree with every word you said. I made myself listen to the whole interview, but it just made me feel very annoyed. It's the first time I got nothing from a Carnivore interview. Dr. Chaffee, actually every doctor and influencer I've listened to has always been polite, humble, and truly nice people. Nothing like this Cywes guy...and I'll be Carnivore for 5yrs come July, turning 70 in a couple weeks. I would never never waste my time listening to him again. I had looked him up and found he is a bariatric surgeon. When he said it's the last resort, I totally did not believe that statement, rather it's how he makes his money.
Fantastic! Thank you both for all your work!
Thank you all for your advice. Looking fwd to this adventure. I wish you all a great week. 🙌🏻
🎉❤❤wow wow wow another high powered video from high powered doctors! love it!!
Type 2 diabetic here and all the diabetic drugs slowly stopped working for me and my A1C went up to 10.7. Switched to Carnivore diet and 3 months later I’m down to 6.8 A1C
Excellent interview!! Thank you to both great docs!
Thank you very much!
superb session with Dr Rob, ty!
Mind blowing episode 😎
Thanks for sharing an intriguing conversation between you and Dr Cywes. I enjoyed wondering about things that happen with the two of you.
We need more doctors like Dr Cywes who order blood tests with lots of obscure tests. There are so many available blood tests out there that could be checked and could very well be off, but we would never know about it because the Dr doesn’t order it. Here’s a perfect example. My vitamin D was low about 6 months ago. I was feeling off and I felt better very soon after supplementing. I paid for the test myself. I’ve never been checked in my whole life at any point by any doctor.
I guess the $30 it costs is too much for routine blood work
@Harold, yep! Dr Ken Berry has a book on what labs to get checked yearly. I’m doing that process right now! Own your labs is who I’ll be doing my testing with.
@@PeaceIsJesusChristthank you!!
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You are so welcome! Their prices are so much better than the others I looked into!