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I wish we could've seen a tacview for this fight just for the sake of understanding where all the missiles ended up and how close they got. They were really useful for BVR fights to tell what was happening.
I think this is a situation where the TacView debrief would be helpful. Seeing how the Typhoon dodged the missiles and when it was able to shoot back at you would be sick.
I'd love to know how he defeated all your 260's. But then I'm sure you would too. Great fight, and thanks for showing that they don't always go your way.
The typhoon pilots are always so damn incompetent tho, they also dramatically underestimate how much it points its nose and they always underestimate the low speed acceleration of the Ej200 Also like 90 miles in a head on should be well within range for a meteor bearing in mind it can hit a subsonic target rear aspect from 100
@Bolter024 nah he barely flies eurofighter either, its always against eurofighter but never flying it himself, on the other hand Eurofighter vs Rafale dogfight could be good 👀👀
Very prophetic, GS, very prophetic. "Never write off the Eurofighter" Well at least you got to walk home after the mach 4 spicy telephone pole "put a wrap" on your day... way better than eatin it, i guess
At the beginning, for a moment, I was thinking, "what's an F15 doing travelling faster than light speed?"😝😝😝 Jokes aside, i have a feeling the seeker heads of the aim260 aren't working too good here. They didn't seem to track too well. You would think that with all those missiles you fired, at least one of them would've scored a hit.
The Euro fighter was staying low taking advantage of the thicker snow atmosphere. And the timing of his up and down and defend were spot on. The Meteor is a wicked hound dog. Seeing that the 260 is so new, GS will find its strengths via tacview. He always does.
Fantastic video! This was almost as good as the video of the F-15C carrying the Meteor and firing them against the Flanker. It was good to see another video of the F-15C carrying a long range missile that goes well with it's radar, but the AIM-260 just looked like a long range high speed rocket; it flies fast, but at that speed, it can't manuever. That has to be the reason why the Eurofighter was able to dodge them and get in close with it's Meteors to down you. Still loved seeing how it played out!
This is how a modern fight would really look / 2 very good aircraft and formidable missiles / euro fighter definitely is a beast and scary for a reason
I just love that DCS pays attention to detail, such as the micro-scratches in the canopies. That being said, the F-22 model is a great deal "flat" in the the design.
That was ace, really enjoyed watching this, thanks for doing it, such fun to see the new version of ny fav classic jet vs my new local favourite. Your cinematic shots were superb and it was so even until the lovely surprise ending! Never saw that happening, cheers! 😊
The F-22, F/A-XX, and USAF NGAD are going to be wicked platforms with the AIM-260. I don't remember whose post it was on IG, but I guess one of the Italian Typhoon training and evaluation squadrons got their certification for the Meteors. The original idea for the Sparrow was supposed to have been based on the body of an unguided 5in rocket. They couldn't fit all of the necessities in the 5in rocket, so they made them 7in diameter instead.
I think the Eurofighter used the storm to its advantage to make the 260s go slow enough for him to weave fast enough to avoid hit. Now that's using your environment in a fight
Was kinda refreshing to see you get properly beaten - doesn't happen often - and it was also good to see you split second think to pull up after the hit to give a better ejection vector.
That incoming Meteor had me screaming before it struck you. Had I been drinking my juice at the time, I would've spit it all over the screen. And I agree with everyone else that a Tacview should've been included. Great fight, good job.
You know what would be cool for these BVR fights? A 'minimap' overlay of the post-match map view(whatever it's called - I don't play DCS) so we can see what all these missiles and the enemy are doing.
I think something to mention as you said the aim-260 isn't a wonder wepon I think it isn't a wonder wepon alone, when in use with awacs the awacs can help guide them so lets just say an f-35 is engaging a target the f-35 can launch and get away a long time before the other plane even knows it was there if it ever knows and the awacs can guide it in till it goes terminal. for modern warfare that makes it a wonder wepon in my mind.
I, too, would like to throw my hat in for a TacView Debrief after that fight, or for the next one if you're doing something similar. I hope you got to get in for a hot whisky beverage after that ejection in the cold! Super cool fighting in overcast skies!
Either the meteor is super awesome or the 260’s information is way misleading. A video with the f22 carrying the 260’s would be very impressive and even more indestructible with the range they carry (supposedly)
To be fair. The Meteor is super awesome. And obviously take this with a pinch of salt since the AIM-260 isn’t even out yet and the info on the Meteor is mostly classified
It's not pure range only. They have different technologies. The ramjet property of the Meteor makes it quite unique. It really makes its No Escape Zone bigger than traditional missiles with similar properties. But in the end both are classified so it's just fantasy.
lol at your disbelief...... yes sir the F-15 is impressive, but when the Royal Air Force got their first Typhoons and retired the Tornado ADV, fighter pilots were very happy indeed. It's an impressive piece of kit.
@@richardb4313The Tornado ADVs they'd been flying were dedicated fighters - long range all weather interceptors, bought in as the EE Lightning was finally retired. They look similar to the Tornado IDS, but were built different and had a completely different mission profile - basically land based F14s. That said, the Typhoons are much more agile and can carry more weaponry, have more modern radars and are much easier to fly and manage. The only advantage the Tornado ADV has is a higher top speed - but only by 200mph, and it takes longer to get there.
@@winterscrescendo ...more interceptor than fighter but yes! Wonderfully efficient engines in military but with a honking great big afterburner to get the performance. The ADV was (is) swift through aerodynamics not power, like the Lightning and Phantom II. Like a land-based Tomcat but without the dogfighting stones because of limited power. A beautiful clean aircraft to look at but I still find the Phantom's rugged looks to have their own beauty. And the Typhoon looks sharp too - beauty all in the eyes of the beholder!
the seekers on the 260 look kinda sucky..... The one that got super close easily had enough energy to reorient, but looks like it lost lock in the final moments.
3:44 - saw the F14 video launching 260s. Me thinks they have a little work to do in DCS. No way would a missile seek to maneuver immediately after launch.
Would love to know who is throwing AA missiles with 90Kg warheads. The AIM 54 is a 61Kg and that is a minibus of a missile. As for the AIM 260, I think they dont like the snow
The F15C is a beautiful aircraft but the Eurofighter is slightly more advanced, would be good to see a fully updated Eurofighter with the recent radar upgrade vs the modernised F15EX.
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@@Averagecartilistener good idea :D
@@LightSpeedFury01YT I guess so yes
Day-28 asking GS to do a dogfight F14 wings retracted only
I wish we could've seen a tacview for this fight just for the sake of understanding where all the missiles ended up and how close they got. They were really useful for BVR fights to tell what was happening.
^ i been saying this forever lol
I agree with you and the other commenter
Yep
Agreed
+1
Would like to see Eurofighter POV to see how missiles were dodged.
@@gregl4791 Both?
Indeed! I was really shocked that with all those telephone polls being fired, GS is the one that shot down by one. 😳🤯
I wouldn't read too much into it. The 260's obviously still need a lotttt of work in DCS. Just look at how weird they're launching lol
I saw one missile plow into the ground while the Eurofighter casually cruises away.@@ghostman3962
@@kerviuskuroshiba5120
Agree, that was a shit ton of Aim 260s and none of them even threatened the Typhoon?
I think this is a situation where the TacView debrief would be helpful. Seeing how the Typhoon dodged the missiles and when it was able to shoot back at you would be sick.
I'd love to know how he defeated all your 260's.
But then I'm sure you would too.
Great fight, and thanks for showing that they don't always go your way.
I had a feeling he was going to get smoked. Which is weird, because I almost always have the feeling GSW will get the W.
@@mogusaurelius4541 Had a similar feeling. Can't win em all I spose.
Its modded stuff created by 15 year olds. Can u really trust.
GS voice on death is as asmr as the lockpicking lawyer or Bob and his pretty little trees
He simply maneuvred that forced the missile to fly in dense air and turn in preferably thin atmosphere.
Dang, that was a good fight. Was hoping to see the Tac View on that one to see how each missile tracked.
Definitely a GS fan but whenever a Typhoon is in the fight I’m rooting for it. Nice BVR & crazy missile chess match.
The typhoon pilots are always so damn incompetent tho, they also dramatically underestimate how much it points its nose and they always underestimate the low speed acceleration of the Ej200
Also like 90 miles in a head on should be well within range for a meteor bearing in mind it can hit a subsonic target rear aspect from 100
Agreed with the other guy who said this - please use tacview more! It would’ve been great to see where the missiles ended up.
Ok, come on. Tacview debrief is a must have here... Let's do it 😊
We need more Eurofighter 🙌🙌
@@Bolter024Rafale is not a very attractive aircraft so I don't blame him.
@Bolter024 nah he barely flies eurofighter either, its always against eurofighter but never flying it himself, on the other hand Eurofighter vs Rafale dogfight could be good 👀👀
@@Bolter024 No one needs the Rafale
@Bolter024 yeah I wouldn't mind that, I quite like the Rafale, I'm just a big Eurofighter fan.
Rafale 🇫🇷🆚 Typhoon 🇬🇧
Very prophetic, GS, very prophetic. "Never write off the Eurofighter"
Well at least you got to walk home after the mach 4 spicy telephone pole "put a wrap" on your day... way better than eatin it, i guess
At the beginning, for a moment, I was thinking, "what's an F15 doing travelling faster than light speed?"😝😝😝 Jokes aside, i have a feeling the seeker heads of the aim260 aren't working too good here. They didn't seem to track too well. You would think that with all those missiles you fired, at least one of them would've scored a hit.
It seemed like the AIM260s were out of energy by the time they reached the target. So they couldn't turn hard enough to land a hit.
@@PyroBlonde7777 They shouldn't have been. Not for a missile with its reported range. Plus, this was happening to missiles shot at closer ranges.
The Euro fighter was staying low taking advantage of the thicker snow atmosphere. And the timing of his up and down and defend were spot on. The Meteor is a wicked hound dog.
Seeing that the 260 is so new, GS will find its strengths via tacview. He always does.
He should use the raptor with them to get the figured out. Much better survival rate and figuring out how the missiles track.
The 260 is probably bugged rn.
"For all you know, there is a telephone pole coming for you at like, Mach 4."
Bro this fucking sent me lmao 8:07
Every time he spoke positively with joy, I puckered up.
2 of the most powerful 4th gen hot rod fighters on the planet. what a video man, loved this one a lot!!
also glad this tyhpoon fanboy got the W 🤣
And a 5 gen would take them both out.
@@LeonAust Ye ye and a secret orbital laser cannon would take out all of your gen 5's. Doesn't take away from the 4th gen's incredible performance.
Fantastic video! This was almost as good as the video of the F-15C carrying the Meteor and firing them against the Flanker. It was good to see another video of the F-15C carrying a long range missile that goes well with it's radar, but the AIM-260 just looked like a long range high speed rocket; it flies fast, but at that speed, it can't manuever. That has to be the reason why the Eurofighter was able to dodge them and get in close with it's Meteors to down you. Still loved seeing how it played out!
The aim260 doesnt have fins that steer it, it should have little rockets all around the rocket that steer it, its like a satellite.
This is how a modern fight would really look / 2 very good aircraft and formidable missiles / euro fighter definitely is a beast and scary for a reason
Yaaaa more EF-2000 videos pls and btw great work man
I just love that DCS pays attention to detail, such as the micro-scratches in the canopies. That being said, the F-22 model is a great deal "flat" in the the design.
We need more IL-2/ WW2 dog fights heck even some WW1 furballs to keep things fresh
I've never been more proud to be a German while watching a dcs video than now! Thanks Eurofighter! 🇩🇪
MiG-29 ist better!
@@FishYourLifeAway No, it's Russian
@@nerdtronaut don’t forget die German version, it ist German with die other variant
@@FishYourLifeAway It was communist east German though
@@FishYourLifeAwaydefinitely not
Well I wasn't expecting that. lol Everyone is writing what I was thinking: Would have loved to see the Euro pov and or tackview to see what happened.
That was ace, really enjoyed watching this, thanks for doing it, such fun to see the new version of ny fav classic jet vs my new local favourite. Your cinematic shots were superb and it was so even until the lovely surprise ending! Never saw that happening, cheers! 😊
Usually my thought process is that the plane he is flying will win. That was surprising for me. I appreciate it :)
The F-22, F/A-XX, and USAF NGAD are going to be wicked platforms with the AIM-260.
I don't remember whose post it was on IG, but I guess one of the Italian Typhoon training and evaluation squadrons got their certification for the Meteors.
The original idea for the Sparrow was supposed to have been based on the body of an unguided 5in rocket. They couldn't fit all of the necessities in the 5in rocket, so they made them 7in diameter instead.
Should have grabbed the F-22 or F-35 for this fight. The EuroFighter Typhoon is the bane of conventional fighter aircraft period.
I think the Eurofighter used the storm to its advantage to make the 260s go slow enough for him to weave fast enough to avoid hit. Now that's using your environment in a fight
Is that even simulated properly for the missiles in the DCS?
How does a storm affect a missile with any significance?
It makes the missile cold and miserable, thus decreasing the missiles willingness to fight@@EvoraGT430
Go figure, a typhoon in a typhoon.
Was kinda refreshing to see you get properly beaten - doesn't happen often - and it was also good to see you split second think to pull up after the hit to give a better ejection vector.
Great battle. Brilliant environments renderings. Stunning vistas. Your commentary is clutch. Thanks. Bravo!
That incoming Meteor had me screaming before it struck you. Had I been drinking my juice at the time, I would've spit it all over the screen.
And I agree with everyone else that a Tacview should've been included.
Great fight, good job.
You know what would be cool for these BVR fights? A 'minimap' overlay of the post-match map view(whatever it's called - I don't play DCS) so we can see what all these missiles and the enemy are doing.
It's called "TAC view", and yes - it'd be absolutely brilliant to have, even as a picture-in-picture.
Those Meteor missiles are deadly!
Always have been.
;)
Thank you very much for the Video❤ I really love to see the Eurofighter and the Meteor in action🤩
Hello from Idaho! Thank you for your videos. Keep up the good work!
My two fav planes rn you are a mind reader my pc broke after downloading dcs but I’m still have just as fun as I would watching you play so skillfully
Thanks for posting my request, much love 😊
I'm pitching in for the idea of seeing the tacview for this one
I think something to mention as you said the aim-260 isn't a wonder wepon I think it isn't a wonder wepon alone, when in use with awacs the awacs can help guide them so lets just say an f-35 is engaging a target the f-35 can launch and get away a long time before the other plane even knows it was there if it ever knows and the awacs can guide it in till it goes terminal. for modern warfare that makes it a wonder wepon in my mind.
TAC view please! How did he dodge all those AIM 260’s🤔
The Typhoon is a far superior aircraft to the Eagle. Simples.
Who flew the Eurofighter?
Also, any plans for a new Minidocs vid?
I, too, would like to throw my hat in for a TacView Debrief after that fight, or for the next one if you're doing something similar. I hope you got to get in for a hot whisky beverage after that ejection in the cold! Super cool fighting in overcast skies!
Great fight that got spookier as it progressed.
Who was that steely-eyed missile man flying the Eurofighter?
6:43 Take a look at the clouds... Looks like a baby girl is giving you something with her both hands !!!
Either the meteor is super awesome or the 260’s information is way misleading. A video with the f22 carrying the 260’s would be very impressive and even more indestructible with the range they carry (supposedly)
To be fair. The Meteor is super awesome. And obviously take this with a pinch of salt since the AIM-260 isn’t even out yet and the info on the Meteor is mostly classified
It's not pure range only. They have different technologies. The ramjet property of the Meteor makes it quite unique. It really makes its No Escape Zone bigger than traditional missiles with similar properties.
But in the end both are classified so it's just fantasy.
Great video thanks. It kind of freaks me out when you do those ground level rolls. I’m waiting for you to stick a wing tip in the ground! Fly safe GS.
15:15 Meteor wants to contact you about your F15s extended warrenty ahh moment
At this point I'm just repeating what everyone else has already said, but we do need to see a tacview for this one!
He got you with his last meteor as well!
So lesson there kids, AIM260 to annoy AIM120 to kill. Rgr.
Helluva good fight. It's nice to see that you're not invincible sometimes. You are one of the best though. Sometimes, people just get lucky...
15:14 REEEEAARRRRR “OH” *BOOM*
the F15’s country says that Modelo is the only true beer and the Germans disagree, so it has come to this
Nice fight. Seemed like it wasn't a fight until it was.
That was intense! The tension was almost palpable.
Cold walk home for that pilot...
We need a rematch !
lol at your disbelief...... yes sir the F-15 is impressive, but when the Royal Air Force got their first Typhoons and retired the Tornado ADV, fighter pilots were very happy indeed. It's an impressive piece of kit.
They had not had a fighter since the Phantom I guess? (Not counting Hawk trainers)
@@richardb4313The Tornado ADVs they'd been flying were dedicated fighters - long range all weather interceptors, bought in as the EE Lightning was finally retired. They look similar to the Tornado IDS, but were built different and had a completely different mission profile - basically land based F14s. That said, the Typhoons are much more agile and can carry more weaponry, have more modern radars and are much easier to fly and manage. The only advantage the Tornado ADV has is a higher top speed - but only by 200mph, and it takes longer to get there.
@@richardb4313 yes that was the perception... I'll reply more on the other Tornado reply.
@@winterscrescendo ...more interceptor than fighter but yes! Wonderfully efficient engines in military but with a honking great big afterburner to get the performance. The ADV was (is) swift through aerodynamics not power, like the Lightning and Phantom II. Like a land-based Tomcat but without the dogfighting stones because of limited power.
A beautiful clean aircraft to look at but I still find the Phantom's rugged looks to have their own beauty. And the Typhoon looks sharp too - beauty all in the eyes of the beholder!
Great fight. Really would've enjoyed a tac view though. Maybe on the hypersonic video..
Odds weren't on his side. New ordinance against a typhoon. unknown lessons that have to be learned the hard way.
im not even kidding, as soon as the video started and i saw an F-15 flying through a snowstorm my brain immediately went
__________PIXY__________
F-15 radar can lock them at their base on take off. F-15 missiles in reality are only effective at at spitting distance (relative).
a tack-view review would be perfect for this fight
Yo GS loved the video just wondering when are you gonna make one of those WW1 videos again I miss them.
I’d love to start seeing some tacview’s during or after the video. Could even be after the outro
"You can't fight the AMRAAM" You say this!
Within 10 miles, yes.
Please F-22 VS F-16 Greek next.☺
GS: *laughs at anything, in general*
Me, who has a hard time feeling happy at anything: *SEROTONIN BOOST*
Just in time for lunch
Its 0 o clock and i have to sleep, work starts at 5 o clock 😂
love to see the Luftwaffe colors.
Just a little disconcerting for me.
@@Packer1290 why?
@@axelotl86 The whole WW2 thing.
@@Packer1290 different Air Force, different government, different century.
The AIM-260 engineers appear to have missed the point of long range ability. .
Meteor always gets you.
Now. You've got to survive a cold night in the forest.
The people demand a Tac View debrief (actually demand is kind of strong, but it would be really nice and appreciated).
$8 mil on missiles that don't hunt. Shoulda went head on and gunned him...just to be sure.
Poland is deciding to.purchase now between these two jets, although I believe the F-15 is a Newer variant.
I know you don't show tacview much anymore, but this would of been nice to see what the performance was.
That looks like an unpleasant walk home... 🥶
can you please use the Aim-260 for the F22 vs the Eurofighter and Meteor
O I am so excited! This is going to be epic!
You better believe GS is going back and studying what happened.
We need the TacView AAR to see where all those missiles went.
Day one of asking for a Ah-64 vs Su-57 fight…
Here to do my part. Su-57 vs Apache.
I invite you to watch the 1990 cinematic "masterpiece", Fire Birds, starring Nicholas Cage and Tommy Lee Jones.
Cringe.
@rustyATV Oxide is this your alt? LOL.
gotta snatch that stick brother. nice
I enjoy watching your videos. They are good and I will keep watching them
Great man thanks... can we see a F14 with AIM260 against a F15 with AIM260
the seekers on the 260 look kinda sucky..... The one that got super close easily had enough energy to reorient, but looks like it lost lock in the final moments.
3:44 - saw the F14 video launching 260s. Me thinks they have a little work to do in DCS. No way would a missile seek to maneuver immediately after launch.
seems the EF got lucky several times XD i would have like to see the tacview on that one
Skill, not luck.
Try F35 with AIM260 vs Eurofighter with Meteor
Wait how is the Typhoon in DCS? Is it an external module or made specifically by a person and it's private?
so youre telling me the aim260 that has an ASEA radar in it lost track that many times, what kind of black magic did the eurofighter do?
the f-15 is still a sexy looking beast after all these years.
Been English i was rooting for the eurofighter 😂
Would love to know who is throwing AA missiles with 90Kg warheads. The AIM 54 is a 61Kg and that is a minibus of a missile.
As for the AIM 260, I think they dont like the snow
The F15C is a beautiful aircraft but the Eurofighter is slightly more advanced, would be good to see a fully updated Eurofighter with the recent radar upgrade vs the modernised F15EX.
These missiles are f***ing terrifying.
really wanted too see the tac view debrief on this one
Absolutely insane tank drop!
“Come one chewie hit the hyperdrive”
This is Art.
This got me by a surprise.