F-15EX EPAWSS is a GAME CHANGER
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
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What's your favorite jet, Gonky? F-18, F-14, F-22? Gonky "My favorite jet is the 737 Max!"
Mind if I ask why the 737 max?
@@trollmastermike52845 Because the Boeing 737 Max design flaws and Boeing mismanagement have caused 2 crashes that resulted in hundreds of deaths, besides a door falling off in flight. The design flaws were known to the management at Boeing and they intentionally hid these flaws from the FAA. The FBI is investigating whether criminal charges should be brought against some top executives at Boeing. The entire aviation world is critisizing Boeing and billions of dollars in orders have been cancelled. I think Gonky flys a Boeing passenger jet so in this video they joked about Gonky having to be politically correct and defend Boeing.
@@michaelrunnels7660 ahh definitely the best jet in the air
Hey Gonk, ever see what the Wright Bro's did with a seagul? New meaning of Fornicating a canine. An RPG on a drone. Salt-water on back of a AT4S. Virtual mailbox? (still gonna get ya there Kazininsky). These are the things...Not Jet jockies know/do. By the way, they painted your jets, powered your engines, and didn't "gag-edate" from an "I-V" skool. Luv yur shoo :)
@@trollmastermike52845 Because Gonky isn’t depressed and is happy with life!
I'm excited about this variant. I remember reading an article about this' new jet' called the F-15 when I was a little kid. The article described a jet that was too big, too expensive, and had a speed brake blocking the 6 o'clock pilot's view when it was deployed. They were wrong. Long live the F-15!
We finally shrunk some of the EF-111A's jamming & spoofing capabilities down in size to fit on an F-15. Nice.
Maybe combined with Weasel capability, too. Sounds like the F-16 WW replacement, to me.
F35 is the one that takes the SEAD dead role. Just look at how Israel moves in and out of Syrian IADS like no body even notice them. It actually might not even need a SEAD, just goes right on target and home.
Former Aircrew Egress Systems Tech here. Proud to say our stuff worked 100% of the time, and we even had a great return policy :)
Just don't lose that D-ring or they'll reject any warranty claims
The EPAWSS is the same system as the F-35s Barracuda with smaller antennas to fit the F-15 (edge antennas on the F-35 vs small circular antennas in nubs on the Eagle)
Fifty years old and THE KING... 🤴
You all didn't talk about spoofer jamming at all. You can be as big of a target as you want on enemy radar if you duplicate yourself electronically so that the enemy sees 37 of you at different ranges, you've accomplished almost everything a stealth platform accomplishes. Spoofing is WAY more effective than noise jamming.
I think that’s what he meant by “throwing out trans”
@@twisted_oddballNo, "throwing out 'trons" is a phrase that refers to brute force jamming, where the goal.is to turn the enemy's radar display into a snowglobe where they can't make out anything, due to the fact you're just overwhelming their receiver, like placing your ears against the speakers for an metal band playing a stadium.
@@twisted_oddball "Throwing out trons" usually means transmitting a massive signal on the same frequency as the radar tracking you. It has the same effect as a rock band putting out a song that is 110 decibels to mask someone whispering at you. It's called noise jamming. Noise jamming is the easiest jamming to defeat by changing the radar frequency hundreds of times per second, which virtually all modern military radars can do. Spoofing is giving the radar tracking you the exact signal it's looking for by recording the radar signal and transmitting it back many times. The radar operator sees your aircraft and exact duplicate targets all over their display. Spoofing works even if the radar changes frequencies constantly.
@@michaelrunnels7660You're overestimating spoofing effectiveness.
There is also signal impersonation such as MALD. I think that this area of EW will become more pervasive and sophisticated. Not just missile or towed decoys but also drones or entire manned aircraft. Confusion can effectively break the OODA loop. Even a brief delay can be enough for an advantage. Modern hardware and software will make this much easier to automate.
"104-0 look out below, I took out a satellite just for show"
The "Why don't you just build more Raptors?" questio is always really funny because even if the production line was there, for the price of a Raptor you could build two F-15EXs (or F-35s) and it would come with all the same problems as F-35 which is high cost per flight hour and long maintenance period after every flight and it has even less spare sparts than F-35 which actually makes it more expensive and harder to maintain than F-35. If you take all the problems into account, F-15EX just makes a lot more sense, especially when paired with F-35s.
Building more raptors seems to come up on just about every other video of theirs, whether it's talked about explicitly or brought up in the comments. In the end it pretty much comes down to what you said though: cost and logistical constraints. I would add that the Raptor's systems do not use an Open Systems Architecture like most modern airframes and are very hard to upgrade, which adds to the cost and complicates the lifecycle.
And why build planes which hulls are braking down too early. F-15 is the oldest, and still the one that gets to continuum. Many times it seems that ppl dont really understand that f-22 has only been built 127 pcs and no more is coming. Perioid.
antenna evolution brings a lot of new capability to deception and jamming, allowing for much more 'aimed' jamming, using lower power, while also improving detection capability in both power level and directionalty...added to increasing efficiency of power delivery in both electrical power and all RF...
I remember hearing about Compass Call shutting down the air war at Red Flag so hard they'd call knock it off to prevent mid-air collisions.
Gonky's writeup--"ECM pod does not work when the button is in the "O-F-F" position.
A couple of time each week we have a section of F-15Es out of SJ blast through our valley. Occasionally they use the old Forest Service fire-tower above us as an aim-point for attack runs. I run out into the orchard and whoop like a kid and do my "Hell Yeah!"s.
My bride sits on the porch and looks annoyed................
Even as a viper pilot how can you not recognize the excellence of the eagle in any variant especially the newest one. The viper was an amazing performer especially for the cost, but the eagle was the koenigsegg and the viper was the corvette. The corvette/viper outperformed competitors 6 times the price, but when cost is of no concern the koenigsegg/eagle was just the best machine money could buy at the time. Just head and shoulders above all else in every aspect.
As an American i approve this blatant pro-corvette propaganda.
We have security software for various use cases and platforms that use machine learning-created models to compare to real world threats. The models are updated by the vendor and then the improved models come in updates. The software and devices themselves (even simple computers) can process data through the model and see if there's a pattern match (along with confidence level). This has been prototypical for years in the IT space.
The main benefit is that the EPAWSS system can ID threats that behave in ways similar to known EM/EW sources. Gathered data can be retained and sent back to the manufacturer for inclusion in model updates.
The other important feature is the ability to triangulate the locations of emission sources with requiring a pod, which is a relatively new capability. When combined with the ML model, these two things can ID even unknown sources as threats and triangulate them, no doubt for targeting or handoff to another system in the datalink network.
EPAWSS sounds very similar to the JAS 39E Gripens EW suite.
Flying the aircraft these days is the easy part. Learning all the systems of the aircraft is what's difficult and ever changing.
And the cherry on top!
I have flown with Gripen dogfight ( gun only) vs. old F16 and vs. old F15...all 3 aircraft were awesome in a different way...
Doing BVR and active jamming is another chess-game...which requires not only pilot skills but a whole EW support organization who manages the threat libraries...most countries just buy modern jets but forgets about or locked out of these other components so they are not using the jets effectively...
will the door and wheels fall off for $293 million?
Only if it's made by Boeing. Boeing's motto "It's not a defect. It's a feature!"
@@michaelrunnels7660 The F15EX is in fact made by Boeing
@@michaelrunnels7660 both F-15 and F-16 are, which is the joke :)
Boeing General Aviation vs Boeing defense space security/McDonell Douglas/Northrop; are 2 different entities, production lines and Management. If we compare KC46 issues, they might install the BAE system and leave a cell phone and a sandwich in the Eagle, not have things fall off.
@@nickbrough8335 The F-16 is made by Lockheed Martin (used to be General Dynamics but LM bought them).
I'm excited for the EX myself and think it can be a great platform. While it's not stealthy and close in price to the F-35, I've heard that it will be able to fly the flight hours during it's life that the F-35 will be able to fly. I've also heard the maintenance costs will be much lower than the F-35 or F-22. Given it's range, speed, and payload in comparison to the F-35 and F-22, I wonder if we are building too many 5th gens at the expense of the EX? What say you Mover and Gonky?
I like the hulk smash approach with the ex. It seems to be an awesome platform from my point of view. I'm just a civi though so I don't know much about it.
I’m waiting for the episode where you announce Boeing is suing you guys😂 to funny every chance you get😂
Isn't this more or less copying what the Rafale does with it's "Spectra" defence system?
The article you were reading mentioned AI being used for EPAWSS
Indonesian Air Force have ordered 36 of these babies & 42 Dassault Rafale F4.2 variants! the first air force in the world outside the USAF using F-15EX when it's delivered!
How does F-15EX & Rafale F4.2 compared to F-35?
Asking this because our neighbors ''Singapore' & Australia'' are using/operating 20 F-35 and 63 F-35 respectively.
You should also be getting some Boramae in the future which will partially fill the stealth role, especially with upgrades over time.
F-15EX + Rafale 4.2 + Boramae is a dream team combination. Lacks the deep penetration into hostile airspace capabilities of F-35 but has top tier electronic warfare and firepower capabilities. For deterrence of potential hostile naval forces against the archipelago of Indonesia, long range effective firepower may be even more important than stealth. You can get some stealthy drones to get more intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, and targeting data sharing then overwhelm the adversary with huge volumes of stealthy cruise missiles of various types and sources. This will creat a complex problem for an adversary and an effective deterrent.
@@stupidburp Thx, very good explanation. Regarding penetration into hostile airspace capabilities, Indonesian doctrine prevent us to even go to war outside our own border. The Armed forces are mainly focus on the defensive capabilities rather than offensive one. But seeing how the world are changing so rapidly; like war in Ukraine and the late attacks of Iranian drones & hyper-sonic missiles into Israel, it's also a must to have offensive capabilities just enough to deter the enemies from launching an attack.
But i forgot the Boramae, we indeed have the minimum stealth capabilities of Boramae , the firepower and EW of F-15EX and Rafale F4.2
@@crumcon it seems to be an expensive mix to have all three.
Indonesia has practiced strategic nonalignment for a while now. Having a mix of sources for military equipment is suboptimal for efficiency and cost but helps mitigate against potential political risks. They also had a lot of Russian equipment but appear to be prudently shifting away from them.
The remaining F-35 order has around 2,000 units of the A model on order. I dont see the space or $ to buy more F-15 currently based on that level of demand.
Hey Gonky and Mover, do you guys think the EX's vertical stabilizers should be canted like the Silent Eagle? It seems like it would help Eagle 2's massive 25-meter radar cross section.
Gonky in a new Block 3 Super Hornet talking to the E-2: "I'm blind, it ain't showing."
E-2: "Refresh your App."
Gonky: "Hey that worked! All good!"
I was hoping for more specifics.
Where are your troops, and may I go there and count them?
@@CWLemoine Sure! Troop 314, Ward building every Wednesday night at 6pm. We have a scout going for the cooking badge. He makes some mean brownies. Count away.
Not quite what i said, certainly meant. The ANG and USAF has large number’s of F-15 and 16 yet to replace. My point is most will be F-35A already contracted. The number of F15EX ordered is small in comparison
Nice to see Mace on here
It has the sexy Hollywood look that you guys love. Paint it totally black and add
Batman decals
“Build more raptors”
I don’t think people realize the atrocious maintenance rate those things have
This is very similar to the solution the French invented for the Rafale many years ago. Because it was French, and because it wasn’t “stealth,” everyone crapped on it at the time.
I wonder how it differs from the ALQ-214 IDECM
See US AF Marshall flying in tajas mk 1
I hope Mover can do a 'test flight' as a reporter for Aviation week & space technology, he must verify ALL the claims made by Boeing on the F-15EX.
The EX a 2 seater, so Gonky will be in the back. ATC to Mover: DO NOT GO UNDER THE BRIDGE!!!😛
With phrases like "It's cognitive capabilities were tested..." and "to see how it responded to threats it had not previously encountered" - to me that sounds like AI/machine learning.
Also, while the article stops short of saying EPAWSS is an AI-powered device, BAE did say AI is used in its development using a process called "cognitive electronic warfare".
In the broadest, simplest terms I can think of, to me EPAWSS sounds like the HTS on the SEAD F-16s, but with an AI in it whose internal mantra is "YGBSM".
*F-15 used EPAWS* Its Super Effective.
Gonky should know that Mover did a reaction video to the movie Stealth... perhaps you need to do a revisit reaction including Wombat as the Chief of the Air Force is going to fly an AI controlled Viper F-16 ... and this news about the F-15EX ... just saying. 😅
Is that like growler abilitiy?
Based upon the discussion, it didn't sound like it. It was more for "local awareness / cognitive capabilities" rather than ECM or ECCM.
One of the smartest things said so far: “Why not build more Raptors?"
Because the tooling doesn’t exist and it would cost more than building NGAD.
@@Bob10009 Tooling is in storage, but the cost to restart would be better spent on NGAD.
@@Bob10009 I'm tracking all that but her question points to why we got here in the 1st place. Why are we even in a position to be messing around with F-15s looking forward to the 2030s-2050s, instead of having gone into FRP with Raptors. We invested $36.2 billion in RDT&E on ATF/F-22, and never capitalized on it. It's just bonkers.
Agreed
@@LRRPFco52 The Soviet Union fell apart leaving no clear nation as a threat to us (at the time), which lead administrations/lawmakers to make the (we now know to be) incorrect assumption that there wasn't a need to keep investing in systems that expensive. That's the long and short of it. And we spent 20 years fighting in the desert, making admins/lawmakers further question the need for modernization and high end systems. I realize we're talking about years after the cold war ended, but that was more or less the attitude. Complacency, basically.
BAE is the Swedish Gripen system
Will there be a laser ( or direct energy ) weapon system for F15 EX , so that it can "jam" or destroy IR sensors ?
Pod based maybe.
Under development
8:41 "welp, that's broke, I'm just flying with this." LOL....welcome to the world of rental Cessna pilots. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've flown a rental Cessna where something was NOT broke.
Yeah, so with this, you could make the enemy think that your jet is 35 miles out and that’s one of their own jets they see on the radar and then they won’t know what hit them. Or like another person in the comment said you could make them think that there is hundreds of you and there’s only four and then while they’re looking for everybody else boom.
I love the F-22, F-35 and F-15EX. All have their merits but take the F-35 situation. To evolve the aircraft requires more power and cooling capabilities from a new powerplant in order to carry more weight without losing performance, powering/cooling more sophisticated electronics, and so forth. Sometimes you need stealth and all the EW to go with it. Stealth will always be important whether its stealth via EW capabilities or airframe aesthetically designed stealth, or materials science that absorbs radar/Infared/visible light/etc. Cost of course rules them all. Most importantly is staying ahead of the enemy in fielded capabilities, not just paper science. Only applied science/tactics win battles.
Damn wish that ver existed when I got my paws on the 15 but that was a lifetime ago
And you maybe a viper guy now but no denying how dominant the 15 is I remember several guys swapping from the 16 to 15 and never lookin back
Keep the F15. Clearly it works and the F22 just shoots balloons and does airshows.
F-15 will be around for another 50. There will always be a need for a missile truck and a 4th gen monster that can be adapted to any role. NOT being stealth is its biggest strength cause it doesn’t have to compromise
Hope its now better than Rafales spectra electronic warfare suite
What's wrong with the Rafales system?
@@JimNortonsAlcoholism nothing wrong but I hate that jet
@@soumyajitsingha9614 it’s leagues better. It also allows for a live picture of the battle space with all the data being collected by it. It gives commanders a live up to date view of the battlefield letting them make the appropriate decisions!
Spectra is primarily focused on self defense while EPAWSS is more of a comprehensive and cooperative approach for the whole team.
@@soumyajitsingha9614 dumba$$
Whoever owns the electromagnetic spectrum wins Pacific. Its just too big of a force multiplier to overcome.
Isn’t the case that there was an f15 that had canards?
It was a modified dual-seat (first dual-seat production unit) model using the F/A-18 stabilators as canards along with thrust-vectoring.
It was a one-off though.
A single experimental platform. Think it had thrust vectoring.
The vtol I believe. Nasa test rife, produced the yf22
F15J, was experimental.
@@Xenomorphine thrust-vectoring and thrust-reversers.... super low rotation speed, super-short take-off and landing distances...
The ALQ-213: 60% of the time...
An F-15 as a jamming missile truck is too cool. It'd be an easy sale to the Japanese or other air forces with a lot of F-15's. It's leap forward for a minor investment.
The F-15EX is on a similar design philosophy path as the Saab Gripen E. Too bad "state of readiness" was not a part of the discussion. Gen 5 vehicles require more maintenance time than Gen 4 aircraft.
gripen E has no such capability. the EW is carried on external pod (similar to F18 Growler) which is nothing more than a powerpoint currently
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People talk about AESA's like they are unjammable. That stuff's way to complicated for me.
Boeing right? does the lack of doors help in a dogfight? less weight i guess.
The Boeing defense and commercial manufacturing are entirely separated. They actually put effort into their military stuff.
home-skillet is way to into saying things like 'throwing trons out'
Dassault Rafale Spectra EW system, basically…🤫 ---> [- ]
A wonderful thing, but all of these innovations should have gone into F-14 derived follow-ons so that the USAF and USN could type consolidate the conventional heavy twin strike fighter family as a compliment to the F-35 and F-22
God I hate government acronyms .. what’s next , the F-22 EXT SPHYNCTRRR
Don’t forget decoys and drone slave-wingmen!
Why not upgrade the viper like this as well
Where would you fit it in the viper, it's already crammed enough as is.
High block f16s are similar in price to the f35 there’s no point
Bring back the xl
USAF has stopped buying the F16. Besides, the F35 will be replacing the f16 fleet.
@@orca4961 bring it back? It was never here. Development for the F-16E/F was almost double what the Strike Eagle was going to cost. They were impressive birds though.
So they turned f15 into an f22 with 3 times the ordinance???? I give em 6 months before they put it on the f16.
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Cognitive EW is an industry term that certainly does mean it incorporates AI, actually machine learning, to conquer new signals.
What are “trons”?
Electrons
But wouldn't it be photons? Radar is photons.
I do believe that Gripen have a similar system.
Hehe the F1SEX hehehehe
Rafale Spectra says hold my beer 😊
The only thing I hate about the F-15EX is the stupid "EX". That's fine for development or whatever but it's now in production just call it the F-15F ALREADY!
I agree but then it is less 5exy
Given its a Boeing, the jammer pod will likely fall off the plane just outside of warranty period
I believe what the Air Force should do is sell all of his F-35A’s to other countries and use that capital restart the raptor line with fresh updates to the raptor instead because I actually believe we definitely need more raptors and with the navy and Marine Corps flying F 35s as well it can supplement their fifth GEN abilities And use the F-15EX’s and Block III Super Hornets as stand off missile trucks being able to launch the AIM-260’s and LRASM’s from standoff distances that the Raptors Neff 35s designate. The F-22 has already proven it can operate and heavily contested air spaces and can do Precision strikes like the F-35 does, it may not be as capable as the F-35A in that arena But it doesn’t need to be if you can bridge the gap in sensor fusion, So it can communicate in the same fashion, the F-35 does with other assets.
The only problem with that is the cost of retooling everything for F-22 reproduction is higher than what it would be if they just did the F-15s in the F3 5. And if they sold all the F3 five ace other countries, it still wouldn’t be enough to supplement the cost of retooling everything. But the F-22 is not done yet. Not by a longshot. Right now have a second generation platform coming out that has stealth pylons and I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but it’s true. They’re currently working on systems where they can put stealth jammer pods and stealth fuel tanks on the planes to increase their range and confused enemy radar even further. Supposedly the fuel tanks are using the same coding that the F35 has and the jammer pods are also using that same coating, but they have more electronics inside of them.
Yep. Stealth is a day 1 deep penetration capability. After that, you need an EX that carries 12 AMRAAMs and EPAWSS along with the second crewmember to control CCA assets. Plus, who's gonna put on a bunny suit and fix stealth coatings on the ass end of a coral atoll when USAF pushes everyone out to ACE bases? Not to mention how super-degraded stealth coatings get on carriers.
EX will not make even to the border when China uses their 5th Gen fighters, and they have a TON of them.
How fast do they get degraded?
@@user-qn3xu5ee3t 🤨 nice try, China 🇨🇳
@@user-qn3xu5ee3t I believe that's classified info
Taxiing you stealth fighter through a commercial car wash MAY void it's warranty!
The Chip manufacturers need to give a serial number to every chip so they can be traced. If you find these Chips in Russian equipment they can be traced like aircraft parts and people who sold them need to go to jail....
wtf is there really no serial number on them? 😂
Can also use airtag like real time tracking of the shipping containers.
The USAF is in a quandary surely. The air national guard needs modernisation and many airframes are at/close to end of life, which is a rather expensive transformation if you're buying latest spécification F-15 or F-16 models(let alone F-35). USAF F-15 and F-16 will be replacer by its current F-35 buy and whatever comes out of NGAD in the near future anyway. So it's only the national guard which hasn't been addressed.
However, the USAF is committed to buy large numbers of F-35, so does it really have the need or budget to buy modernised F-15 varient from Boeing ? It needs to fund NGAD and its associated Drone fleet as well as the F-35 buy. I dont see the budget nor the need outside the air national guard. A cheaper solution there would be a 4++ génération plane such as the gripen/Typhoon/Rafale. It appears the the F-15EX was it, so why this newer varient ? Indeed, does the USA have the budget to fund modernisation of the US Navy, Airforce and Air National Guard at the same time ?
USAF and ANG need in the near term:
1000 F-35A
1000 F-15EX
Full modernization for all ~187 F-22
That would be sufficient for a 2024-2034 time frame major war with a near peer adversary. It would allow retirement and storage or transfer of almost all F-16s and legacy F-15s. NGAD will eventually replace the F-22 and could be acquired in numbers of around 400-500 but we shouldn’t count on them in full operational capability spec and in large volumes until the late 2030s. War is most likely going to happen much sooner than that. We need war production volumes urgently.
To your last questions…yes. Quit spending $ on non-citizens…BINGO
“So it’s only the [air] national guard that hasn’t been addressed.”
Incorrect. The ANG is getting both F-35As and F-15EXs to replace its F-15C/Ds and some F-16s. There are already ANG F-35A equipped squadrons with more to come, and the AF Reserve is getting them also. The Guard will also have an F-35A training squadron.
The first operational F-15EX squadron will be an ANG squadron, and at the moment the ANG is the only service identified to get the F-15EX … the USAF hasn’t decided (or at least hasn’t announced) which, if any active duty squadrons will get the F-15EX.
The F-15EX was simply the latest version ready to roll off the production lines at St Louis.
Plenty of moderate upgrades done by each foreign customer over the years since the USAF bought the last F-15E meant the latest version was very different to what the USAF last bought new.
F-15EX also has some significant airframe differences. They took the upgrades from foreign customers and dropped them into a refreshed airframe that is stronger and lasts longer and has a few other tweaks.
Glad to finally see the US move to the open platforms.. why the F-22 was so expensive and needed replaced (in some people's mind) already.. bc it was the top, still is in a lot of ways, but they didn't leave room, ability for new big tech, upgrades .. the F-35, NGAD are open platforms so they can constantly have new stuff added, upgraded
Can you please please talk about Canadian, Spanish, Swiss and Finnish F-18s?
What specifically are you looking for in that discussion?
@@glaabaglooba That we send Ukraine these jets, as there are twice the amount of free F-18s being replaced by F-35s than F-16s.
Game changer, eh?..howabou' tha' good ol' boy, Amos Moses?..he' hunt gators for a livin' an' jus knock'em in tha' head witha' stump an' he used jus' one hand..that's all he got left 'cause an alligator bit it clean up to tha' elbow..(an' his daddy used ol' Amos for alligator bait)..
You have to wonder after seeing the situation in Ukraine if any non-stealth can survive in contested airspace. Also it is only A matter of time till they start integrating "Dumb" AA defenses with AI or VI that can simultaneously "Paint" A target and coordinate with other AA assets and sensors. A sensor net that can track thermal, visual, and sound simultaneously is eventually going to find even A stealth aircraft and relay it's location and direction of travel to other sensors, weapons, or aircraft. Simply swamping the target's AA defenses with 100s of CHEAP drones may be the better idea.
If it has a "cognitive process," it's AI.
Basically the DASS system the Typhoon has installed. Game changer for the USAF. C'mon CW, its ok to mention its a British thang ;)
We should have been buying hundreds more F15EX instead of so many F35
If not already happening, one EPAWSS could direct the Radars of several aircraft. Just like 2 v 1 tactics, 2 radars working together should be an advantage, especially if the timing can be tightly synced.
China claims they can defeat stealth with 3 radars synced to simultaneously illuminate the stealth target from 3 different directions. This can concentrate the radar signal hitting one part of the aircraft and cancel out the radar signal on the other parts of the aircraft.
Speaking of problems with software, everything is so complicated, and the system (in my case a 2017 model) isn't self-healing yet. My Surface Pro just totally refused to charge. I've replaced the charger once. Turns out the software controllers for the battery occasionally get corrupted and the fix is uninstall, then reboot, during which process the system will reinstall clean. Charges like nobody's business now. Wish my 08 Grand Cherokee was that easy.
The Russians knew we would find their stealth tech book, knew it was too expensive, let us run within, and quickly run out of money. Because let's face it, American's must have what we think is the best tech ever.
But, Russia took radar route, much cheaper. Safer, cheaper, saves money. At the beginning of the 90's we unfortunately thought Russia was broke, wrong, the United States is broke! Wake up!! We are even more broke today. Heck, that was 2 years after the Reagan years, balanced budget, back in the black, out of the red, to out of the black, deep into the red, we thought. Today, we are DEEP IN THE RED, WAY DEEPER THAN EVER IN HISTORY!! People are predicting we will never get out, we are so deep in debt. Yet we don't ever try to get out.
Gripen F says welcome to the club but I have AI
Gripen needs that EPAWSS
🤣
Gripen has pretty good EW for it’s size.
@@stupidburp Yes its what it is build around and Germany ordered a Eurofigher EW with almost the same EW as regular Gripen. What they talk in this video is what Gripen E is all about :)
I'm not sure this F-15 knows it's an F-15. Is it really maneuverable above mach 1 like in this game
ruclips.net/video/eG9K405sNy8/видео.htmlsi=V9yfdVjZzj_KC_Eh
Fighter of the future ?
A F-15 variant ?
For real ?
Please, get rid of old stuff! Let the past remain in past.
F-15EX is a new design yet uses a well established logistics chain to save money. The F-15 is proven and has a better record than anything overseas.. F-22 is way too expensive and limited in mission set. We won’t get anymore, ever. You can’t do dedicated close air support or stand off missions with missiles like the HARM or SLAMMER. It also requires a month of downtime at the depot every 300-500 hours of flight. Stealth aircraft have proven expensive and not up for the task of high sortie rates. 2,000 F-35s for the military is a bad idea considering its limits and costs after 20 years of still unresolved problems. Once air dominance and clearing air defenses is complete, it makes less sense to use an expensive system for missions you can accomplish with other systems. You don’t send a B-2 spirit to bomb a small convoy from Missouri when there’s other planes nearby.
@@mmmmburgerz9442 all your claims and vision repeated by everyone in past 20 years.
US inventory ended up with airframes from Cold War era. Development of tech slowed dramatically. There are almost nothing new and proven.
F-22 is not sufficient in numbers.
B-2 is not sufficient in numbers.
LCS Program failed.
Zumwalt failed by ballooned expenses.
Continuous bad management.
50-year old design is a "fighter of the future?" Excellent - let's bring back P-51s and Spitfires and put modern electronics on them. Might as well...
Close air support like we used in Vietnam
P-51 drones would be pretty handy for border patrol and COIN missions.
@@stupidburp TBH for that e.g. Thunderbolt or Bobcat would do better - far more robust airframe and firepower.
China makes over 100 5th gen fighters A YEAR. And we plan to counter that with a 50- year old design? Who are we trying to kid?
They are also making even more Flanker variants and J-10 every year. They expanded factories for all of them.
F-15EX provides large volume firepower to follow up small volume firepower on stealthy platforms. They are more effective together with stealth and firepower focused platforms as a team than with an all stealth force. That is by USAF’s own analysis that they revealed publicly.
Are you talking about the J-20 Dragon? There's nothing really verifiable that it is on-par with the F-22 or F-35... nor really how they compare with the "Gen 4.5" planes that the F-15EX would be.
I recall seeing some reporting that the J-20 was still having issues with their engines, which is understandable given the tech base China started with.
And the US is churning out F-35s. The aircraft have different roles.
We build 156 F-35s at the Fort Worth plant per year. We also still produce F-15s and F-16s. Bulk of what China produces are junk to the point the JF-17 is a second line fighter in Pakistani service behind a 50 year old design called the F-16, lol.
🇸🇪-Style crossed with 🇺🇸-Style!!!
So superior to the 🇷🇺-style of doing things!!
America is light years ahead. We can't compare, not even close.
If I remember correctly, it's the massive nearly 3-feet in diameter radar array in the nose that allows for the incredible ECM potential of the new system. Who needs Fifth Gen airframe design when you can press 2 buttons and turn opposition instruments 100 miles out into unreadable trash?