Does the F-15EX compare to the Chinese J-16 Flanker?
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This video compares two old fighter jets, but modernized for the 21st century. The US F-15EX and the Chinese J-16, the best that the Flanker family can offer today. Sensors, weapons, subsystems and basic performance parameters are all compared, before the final verdict is given.
00:00 Intro to topic
02:33 Radars
06:08 Other sensors & jammers
10:02 Air to Air weapons
14:52 Air to Ground weapons
17:11 Range comparison
21:18 Kinematic performance
22:49 The verdict
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作者你的视频是我看过的最客观的评价中国歼16的视频了，比那些无中生有恶意揣测的要客观认真得多！
但是有些地方依然有点问题，就我知道的信息而言，歼16和F15EX一样属于大幅重新设计的机体结构（主要是机体内部）。就官方的报道中提到了的信息就有：歼16机身百分之80的结构经过重新设计，并大幅度使用了复合材料来减轻空重，并是中国首次使用无图制造技术生产的机型。所以它的空重比su30和su35更低是没有疑问的（su35为了取消减速版不得不大幅度加强机身结构导致其空重大幅增加反而不如j16），早在su27的完全中国化的j11b时为了减重就大幅使用了复合材料，cn的纪录片里面就空开提到过相比原厂su27sk和国内组装的j11a，j11b的复合材料比例就大幅增加了，j16就更不应该这么重了，合理的推断j16的使用空重应该为17.5吨。其次电子设备就我们国内自己的消息来源判断j16相比su30把翼尖的电子吊舱（或类似功能产物）给内置到机身里去了，歼16的其它吊舱可能是加强其它功能的。最后就是，我有一个疑问就是f15不带副油箱是怎么跑得过侧卫的，侧卫家族的内部燃油天然就比其它飞机大得多以至于几乎很少见到侧卫家族使用副油箱的情况，f15却很容易见到带副油箱的图而侧卫su27系列也有但很少见。
you are aware Russia is proving it is ahead of both China and the US in Ukraine, their latest aircraft have been seen and not 1 loss shows this
Have you ever done one U.S. state vs another? With no federal involvement. Maybe get back to your early days style. Study landscape armed per capita full on militia vs militia. Might be hilarious.
@@stuartpenman6387 They shoot from behind their own lines by most reports. Either afraid to lose one or worried about the risk of Ukraine sharing targeting crosshair data with the west.
I’m sure the comments will be civil and unbiased
How can a video about the F-1SEX Eagle not be civil? Though I'm amazed the plane hasn't been armed with weapons named 80085 so the Sex Eagle can drop boobs on targets.
I concur.
Surely
Eggroll undefeated we eat bat soup 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
About the F-15EX...
ruclips.net/video/WajvGTpIum4/видео.html
F-15EX radar is the AN/APG-82(V)1, which is newer than the F-35's AN/APG-81. EX has a Lighting targeting pod.
Remember, US F-15E's (the majority but not all) are currently getting or already have received upgrades to essentially make them EX's as well...
The F-15EX is pulling ahead even further as AIM-260 and other missile options start to become available.
ohh i missed these comparison vids, the current conflict vids are also good but these oldskool vids are missed
Chinese very long range missiles likely for AWACS and Tankers, C130, C17 with cruise missile load out
classified vs classified, which is better? that's classified
No surprises here, if stealth isn't an issue, F-15 still takes all.
I think this shows how great those 70"s designs are😊
I mean physics don´t change and they weren´t concerned with stealth at this point in time + it happens to have the right size for about anything you want to do with it. So as long as you upgrade parts of it, the airframe itself still remains a jack of all trades.
Not to mention that the 2 richest countries of the world were trying to one up one another.
The resources spent on military hardware at the time could have funded a 1/3 of the world's countries.
I'm American, but I have to say, Flankers are pretty. Almost as pretty as Tomcats!
All credits to Sukhoi :)
Yup yup, i love the Eagle but i cant deny the awesomeness and sexiness of the Mig’s and the Su’s. Mig 15 being one of the sexiest jets ever!
*Almost as pretty as Eagles
Clearly the J-16 is 6.67% better than the F-15EX, because 16 is 6.67% more than 15.
lol, j-16 has 1800 trans more than F-15 has, and more China bans export of gallium from last year, why? while " the Pentagon continues to refuse delivery of new F-35s until Lockheed finishes testing technology for the jet’s latest upgrade, called Technology Refresh-3. Lockheed recently announced another delay for the new tech package in its latest earnings call, and now forecasts TR-3 will be ready in the third quarter of 2024. "🤔 lol
Enemy information are unknown, so our stuff are the best.
@achatessalinas2420 yep cia payroll
Blinkov, I surprised you omitted "pilot training" as a criteria! US military spends bucket-loads of money training our pilots in simulators and IRL flight time! 🤔
Judging fron the Chinese education system, and in general, the preparation of your average chinese and the general chinese culture, I doubt the Chinese would undee prepare their pilots. America has more experience in actual wars but its mainly against poor countries which didnt stand much of a chance.
Great analysis !
As a former Eagle Keeper, this tracks! C models were the dog fighters; E model and later pretty much define multi-role.
The Air Force lacks imagination in naming things. The F-15EX should be called the Super Eagle at least. A proper name reflecting what it is.
Agreed. Aircraft II is usually a much later homage to Aircraft I--e.g. the A-10 Thunderbolt II is the namesake of the P-47 Thunderbolt. But maybe this is a McDonnell Douglas thing (that Boeing preserved): the F-4E Phantom II was really just an upgraded Phantom. Hm. But no: the upgraded Hornet is the Super Hornet. So I don't know. It's the Super Eagle to me. Though, as we all know, it's really the F-1 5EX Eagle...
@@user-fw2dd2cy3cLOL. The F-4 Phantom II was merely *named* for the FH Phantom in honor of the earlier (and entirely unrelated) and successful McDonnell carrier fighter.
The F-4 derives from the F3H Demon, which shares a design lineage with the prototype XF-88 Voodoo (which is why the later F-101 Voodoo kind of looks like an F-4 Phantom II in the dark, if you squint.)
The FH Phantom, by contrast, led to the F2H Banshee, which was a somewhat disappointing aircraft, and the Banshee was basically the end of the FH Phantom lineage.
They're quite clever. The super eagle is a copy of the idea of the super hornet name. No. The designation denotes what we need to know. pipe down.
LOOOOL that's hilarious. How could I not know that? Somehow I got the idea that only the E model onwards was designated Phantom II...I'd forgotten about the earlier Phantom. But I was grasping. And this makes the "Eagle II" designation completely inscrutable. It basically *has* to be the Super Eagle.
Whether mrjmorovis is right or not about the USAF's imagination, he's right about "Super Eagle"...
Missile approach sensor were incorporated on the F-15 as early as 1979. Retired F-15 ECM Maintainers, and F-16 ECM Instructor here.
Such great plane footage 🙌
Blinkov's assessments do not disappoint.
Due to lack of any reliable data this comparison video is kind of pointless.
We can assume many things with relative accuracy
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Great video as usual Bink!!!!
How can you compare something when you have so little information about it?
agreee . f15 ex had advantage over whut? they dont know any of pl 17 or china radars or sensors, and assume american stuff always is best.
Did you even watch? If you did you wouldn't be asking dumb questions.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket they dont have numbers on china or russia range weught sensors They are just guessing numbers lower then 15x so that american fighter looks better. Look in ukraine how super duper strong Abrams tanks gets killed by 50 year old t72s...
F-22 is being retired while the rest of the world is still trying to catchup to it.
Part of F22 legacy was, unfortunately, showing the rest of world how NOT to make a stealth fighter:
1. Superb maneuverability not that important b/c you could never out-maneuver a missile.
2. Avionics, avionics, avionics and better avionics. Situation awareness is far more important.
3. Keep your system open so it can be upgraded with better blocks, unlike F22.
@@TellenJonesnope, it actually showed the world how to make one, that's why china and Russia 20 years later have tried to copy the f22 but have failed miserably 😂
@@newlevelgamer5879 China's J20 has more advanced avionics than F22 not b/c of US lagging behind in technologies but that there's simply no room / interfaces to install the latest upgrade packages on F22.
@@TellenJones lol😂😂 China barely was able to produce them an has several issues with their engine signature and other issues with radar systems that might be replaced for a 4th generation russian radar because the one that China created for the J20 is not enough to fight the f35 not even the f22, that's why china took too long to build this plane, plus the U.S.A already has the NGAD 6th generation fighter coming up soon, China is far behind America and by the time China get that J20 junk flying the U.S.A will already have the NGAD in mass production
@@newlevelgamer5879哥们是战忽局的吧😂
Good analysis and commentary Master Binkov...thanks for posting!
Great analysis, Binkov. I must point out that the F-15EX, unlike the F-15C and E, is now a CCV vehicle with relaxed stability coupled with full fly-by-wire controls. This allows to further exploit the airframe capabilies, with the actual result of an improved agility over the legacy F-15s. This is clearly showed in the now famous display in Dubai by an F-15QA, a close related to the EX.
Still a 1970s air craft for 180 million on the export market if you read what Indonesia was offered . a F35A has got to be half of that right now
fly-by-wire USA/Western aircraft are "electronics-jam-prone"
just ask USA's F-35 Lightning II pilots wandering too close to enemy defense air space
glitches in an "all,electronic" fighterjet is scary!
@@SaintFluffySnow J16 is kinda Meh
With regards to air to air combat, the EX is actually more maneuverable than legacy Eagles as it can pull some maneuvers that would normally require thrust vectoring. When it comes to BVR engagements though, the PL-15 missile has a dual pulse rocket motor, making it much more lethal in the “end game,” giving it a fairly significant edge over the AIM-120. At least currently. Once the AIM-260 enters service with the EX, it will level the playing field against even the PL-17
That's marketing wank. It's exactly the same shape as the E and weighs slightly more. FBW merely imitates a very good pilot but the envelope will be worse than a C.
The F-15EX is a complete different beast compared to J-16.
Now that's what we needeed! These kind of videos are the best! :)
You fail to mention the existence of AIM120D-ER and AIM260 variants 😂
Are they really exist?
Very soon
@CarolYeisley yeh
Allegedly us fighters have already been using 260s. . .
@@mamarussellthepie3995 AIM260 at 2023 or2022 test-fire but not be on active service
@CarolYeisley idk man
Some people say 260s are in service early like 120s once were. . .
The fuel quantity of the F-15EX seems odd: it is stated in the video at 19:53 to be 5364 gallons and 15.1 t, which, if we assume this means US gallons, makes the fuel's density 744 kg/m^3. That is a value typical of gasoline used in cars, whereas jet aircraft typically use kerosene with a density of about 810 kg/m^3.
Good catch. There is probably a discrepancy between the stores carried. That 5000+ gal figure is with CFTs, plus a full load of 3 external tanks. The 15.1t measure would be close to the right measure for the much more typical loadout of CFTs and 2 drop tanks. The central pylon will typically be reserved for a targeting pod such as Legion IRST.
Or the number came from a conversion error.
@@m1910rcb AFAIK the drop tanks are 600 gallons, if we subtract that we get 4764 gallons, given that 15100 kg of fuel that would mean a density of 837 kg/m^3, which resembles automotive diesel more than typical jet fuel.
@@sebastianskwarczynski2435 I don't doubt your numbers. Don't know the densities, but I was going by the typical weight we use for jet fuel, 6.7 lbs/gal. With that loadout it was somewhere between 15 and 16 tons.
Of course he's getting these figures from various sources or with envelope calculations, so I'd expect discrepancies. Even gov't websites almost universally list incorrect or contradictory stats for that type of thing.
Its funny to see copes from both sides of this debate, everytime there is some speculation he clearly mentions we dont have all the details or that the information could be innacurate, if you think you can do better than him and his team go ahead and make your own video and include your own sources
Not one period.
Does anybody know if the backseaters in late mark Flankers perform the same or similar duties to the ones performed by Strike Eagles WSOs?
F-16 viper vs Gripen E comparative video pls
Gripen easily....
Binkov: what effect would an air wing of f15ex in the philipines do to WW3?
You forgot the AIM-260 JATM which appears to have already scored kills at 300 km and fits in the spots allotted to the AIM-120D AMRAAM.
and now.. the newer mako missile that fits f22 and f35 internals. small and hypersonic, it could be picked up by the services that deem it reliable or advantageous enough..... the game is changing faster than the adversaries can know.
All depends on what height the missile is launched from and what speed the airframe is at when firing.
this is EXACTLY the type of video that I want to see
Just coming in for my weekly quota of vodka flavored tears
If you don't have any verifiable information Chinese aircrafts, just don't compare them.
All military analyses, even by intelligence organizations, are based largely on educated estimates and some assumptions. There will be variations from the data presented for both sides, but very unlikely to swing any single comparison.
Please compare the Iranian F-14s with with earlier Israeli/US F-15s as well as the EX, it would be fitting with the latest news from the ME!
Let’s see. Ancient F-14s without decades of technical support from the country that developed it against a superior platform owned by technologically vastly superior countries with capability to conduct proper maintenance.
It hurts to see the best Flanker is not from Russia, not even su-35S or su-30SM3
Later this year, the F-15EX will start receiving the AIM-260 Joint Advanced Tactical Missile, developed specifically to compete against the PL15.
It has about the same dimensions as the AMRAAM, but higher top speed and longer range than the AIM-120D.
and it's still shit compared to the meteor missile developed more than a decade ago.
@riskinhos did this come to you in a dream?
@@riskinhoshow would you know?
@@gamerf1141 department of defence data available data.
@@riskinhos from what is known about it, let's keep in mind that we only know the basic of it
But they have been advertising the new F15’s as missile trucks slaved to the F-35
What about their logistics and attritional warfare characteristics?
How much maintenance does each need per hour of flight time and how "delicate" are they .... are they hanger queens.
For example, the F-35 is more deadly due to its stealth than the Gripen, but the Gripen can run a lot more missions in a week than a F-35 could, and from ad-hoc facilities.
In a total war or even a intensive bombing campaign after air superiority has been gained (such as in Iraq), how many sorties could each run?
.... that's why I mentioned the Gripen in the above comparison, it's the world champion in _that_ department. And as the Ukrainian war has proven, that sort of metric does matter.
I think merging the channels would be better. Label which universe, seperate into play lists. I’m interested in several universe.
As to RUclips…. I would think more viewers in a channel, would up your cred. But I hadn’t thought about their monitoring folks watching a couple and skipping a couple?
Well at least we know the J16 is better than the SU35
Nah
Sure but that's a very low bar.
What about AIM260 JATM?
It's not yet being produced in large enough numbers to be a significant factor, but maybe in a few years...
Wait for the 2 to be updated into War Thunder and we will find out
It could probably hold +32 missiles now rotation detonation engines can make missiles 50% smaller.
Still cant decide whether F15 or Flanker is the best looking fighter
2 seat flanker ＞ F15 ＞ 1 seat flanker (at least for me
AIM-260 Joint Advanced Tactical Missile (JATM) will hopefully enter production soon.
It has a range of over 200 KM (120 miles).
At the same time, the PL21 with a range of 400 kilometers has begun to be installed in the Chinese Air Force
On another note the latest iteration AIM-120D3 achieved the "the longest known air-to-air missile shot to date" against a test drone according to a recent USAF test. But the longest range achieved by an American AAM is 132 miles (210km) with AIM-54 Phoenix in the early 1980s. So this already puts AIM-120D3 in parity with Meteor or PL-15 in terms of range. Then their is still Raytheon's 400km LREW but the biggest game changer is their Peregrine missile which essentially doubles the amount of AAMs 5th gen stealth like F-22 and F-35 can carry.
@user-ih5lp1lg4你这样说他们会哭的😢m
In. O world, is the J-16 and the F15EX are in the same 4+ to a 5-
I wanna watch the hypothetical war scenario among the nations in the Sahel area.
How about it?
How much actual combat data exists on the J-16?
as far as I am aware it has only ever been flown in training and as parts of parades. doesn't mean its harmless it just means that its unknown on its actual capabilities.
I mean... how many F15EX are out there? 10? How many J16? 200? 300?
Good point. It was pretty stupid of the USAF to design a plane the US could build only 10 copies.
considering that its a brand new variant I dont exactly know what you where expecting.
@@kurtwicklund8901 are you an stupid? the F-15EX is a variant that was just introduced a little over a year ago, while the J-16 has been in service since 2015 ( production started in 2014). thats over 10 years so of course there's going to be more of them.
How many J-20 are there, 250? How many F-35? 1000+
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor 1000+😂
Gallium is one very cool rare earth metal.
How am i able to watch this video on my iphone when i exit RUclips screen, and even lock my phone? First time this happening and i am not paying YT
Eh. I use RUclips ReVanced to get around it. Not to difficult to find the APK for it. A fairly recemt APK for RUclips, patch it through. EZ
A video about combat aircraft with no legit data? Should have made a turtle tank documentary.
Hmmmmm, would a pilot rather fly an F15EX or a Chinese J16 or ANY of the Russian fighters? I think the US doesn't show ANYBODY but its own pilots what the F15EX can really do...
lol how many f-15ex was procured until 2024, 2 ?
w/ aerial refueling, can't fighters get off the ground near Mtow in a low fuel status but heavy combat weapons load then fill up the jet fuel while enroute to their target? it was my understanding this had become standard practice. planes can still fly above mtow. they just can't get off the ground above that weight.
Your one hundred percent correct. It’s common practice among all countries airforce
I don’t get how some one does not notice they are still being charged for a service they stopped using🤯🤯 rocket money is so damn pointless. If you have so much money that you don’t notice then it’s obviously not hurting you and I’m sorry but even if I was a millionaire I would notice money being spent on something I’m not using or didn’t purchase. That’s just me I’m on top of my money and know where it goes and where it went at all times. You can’t get nothing over on me when it comes to currency it’s just not going to happen😂
How about that kill ratio.... F15 Mic drop
Against what? Obsolete Soviet monkey planes…Wow…
DOT DOT DOT.
*SU-34/35 crying in corner from embarrassment*
Seriously, how bad of a strategist does one have to be to lose 30+ newer flankers on the Ukraine front? Were the SEAD guys taking a nap? Why did they leave the A-50 in a position to be shot down twice?
Negative.
Go check out the list of fighters the F-15 has killed.
its more suprising that the F15 and F16 will still be flying in Airforces around the World even in 2045 as there still building them now and they have really long air frame hours. The F18 which came out later is almost well and trullly retired now and wont be flying with anyone by 2030 other then perhaps as a trainer... for a mid 70s airplane the F15 to probably still be flying in 2050 with some countries will be impressive. by then it will be a long range bomb truck its still very competiitive with the best China and Russia have today
There's a lot of mig21 in service even today.
BOEING MENTIONED! ✈️✈️✈️
@thomaszhang3101 ok imma be fair I don't know much about radar but what I do know is that the AIM-120 has been battled tested while the PL-15 have not, and from those battles upgraded the AIM-120E to D model with extend range. In a typical engagement no fighter will fire their missiles at maximum range because at that distance the missile will have less of a chance of hitting the target then if you was much closer, so their actual numbers between the PL-15 and AIM-120 could be much smaller then they actually are. matter of fact AIM-260 is basically or supposedly a counter to the PL-15 what information on the two are both limited so it's really hard to argue about them but PL-15 being more hush hush then AIM-260. Now as for the F-15 its fuel was increased in later models boosting its range without external fuel tanks, the difference is is the fact that when it comes to the flanker those type of aircrafts are meant for home defense and don't often carry external fuel tanks while the Eagle is more of a regional fighter escorting and protecting no-fly zones. The f-15s airframe was build for durability to the point it can fly without a wing. External fuel tanks and refueling aircraft a part of the United States military strategies and the fact that the F-15 has never been shot down has one of the best air to air victories without loss mostly thanks to Israelis.
I'm not even sure what the point of these videos is. 90% of the info for the F-15EX is unknown, and 99% for the J-16.
The only notable differences between the two is that the J-16 can carry that super long range missile, but probably can't target it at that range.
Most aircraft lack the ability to acquire targets out to the maximum range of their missiles and rely on AWACS to do that for them which is why the F-22 and F-35 invest so heavily in networking but the F-15EX also adopts that technology to integrate with the F-22 and F-35.
那就比比双方预警机
@@lspcnb3747这他老美能比的过？😂
可惜的是你们预警机也比不过啊😂
Let's say the SAR radar is 1 meter resolution and range of 100km. Pilot does not have time to analysis the radar image during the flight. It needs an onboard computer, AI type of thing to make the data useful.
You don't need AI to analyze radar returns, everybody relevant has had computers to do that for decades...
also have to account for pilot experience... an experienced pilot can still out perform newer aircraft, however since China does not give its pilots many flight hours, compared to the requirement for US pilots per month. Not only that I am fairly confident that should F-15EX flights ever encounter even Russia's SU-57 it can deal with it with some degree of difficulty.
In fact, PLA pilots already fly more hours per year than the US Air Force.
@@suberchen3604source?
When you say something like "no good data are available" dozens of times, it may be premature to make the video.
Well, yeah. But realistically it will be decades before accurate technical specifications for current advanced military systems will be made public, so it’s better than nothing I suppose. Binkov has to pay the bills somehow.
By the time that data would be available these aircraft will no longer be relevant.
@@doctorsoggy5563 Then make a different video. We should expect better than a damn content mill.
That’s the nature of videos about modern militaries, it’s impossible to be sure about pretty much anything. Not sure what you expected here…
Enough known for a cutting edge source
How do you compare an aircraft that has proven itself in actual combat, versus an aircraft that has proven itself in an actual airshow?
I suppose US may use F-15 more for air to ground mission because both China and Russia have more long range AA missiles (though not sure about real performance). So under such case, air superiority mission of US or NATO may rely more on stealth jet for safety consideration.
There beautiful asf both of them
How can you make a comparison video if almost half of your video says no data available 😂. Can we just compare the EX now vs the su-35 or the rafale?. Then We might actually hear facts. This is more like a guess comparison. 😂 It reminds me of your old war prediction, and then the war happen. Not even close bruh. 😅
104-0
14,667-0 against women & children
What was the political decision for the US not having MAW on the F15EX?
In Hobby Lobby, yes!!!
can you do a. video of J-16 vs Su-35?
J 16 is better as it has AESA radar and stealth coating unlike Su 35 lacks AESA radar and stealth coating
@@soumyajitsingha9614 however the Su35 won’t disintegrate after a few years of service, unlike the Chinese aircraft.
@@ikman4006 it will get towed away by a Ukrainian tractor instead
@@ikman4006 well for your kind information Chinese fighter jets now use much more advance engines then Russian fighter aircraft and not only engines but Chinese fighter jets also have better welding with less revvits
China: my best
Usa: no, my
Germany: wait a minute
Russia: wait a decade...
Comment for the algo gods
AIr to air missiles are reliant on how and when they’re actually launched.
Obviously.
The faster and higher you are the faster and further you Fox will go.
Engagement envelopes are vital to achieving results.
And situational awareness is vital in utilising the envelope.
As far as I know US SA tech is the most advanced in the world.
As a Brit I am very happy about this state of affairs.
F15EX HAS THE BEST LONGEST RANG MOST POWERFUL RADAR IN THE WORLD. THE FASTEST MISSION COMPUTER AND THE FASTEST SPEED.
The fact they even compare this chinese GARBAGE, with NO COMBAT EXPERIENCE to the UNDEFEATED F-15 is absolutely hilarious. Especially when we've seen the russian derivative get it's ass whooped in Ukraine thus far.
@@lamarkingram5320 The F15's actual combat experience is mostly with MiG-23 and MiG-25. What's the meaning of this so-called actual combat experience? According to your logic, the F22's actual combat experience is 0, so Su-35 is better than F22?
The clear answer is unknown. Only in an actual battle could we really know what's better. Even though I am biased with America and western gear, I have a feeling the J-15/16 with PL12/15 are better than they appear. I would say overall Chinese military equipment procurement is not plagued with delays and severe cost overruns as with American/western equipment. American defense manufacture are nickling and dimming the DOD for every little bolt and washer they are able to charge for. I am not so sure Chinese defense contractors would ever dare to charge the CCP extreme amounts of money and then under-deliver like most American defense companies have been doing. The CCP are certainly getting more bang for dollar/yuan
You see in the USA the companies and the government are in a parasitic relationship the government is controlled by big capital.
In China it's the other way around. The CCP has them on a tight lease. They even jail and oof millionaires and CEOs there.
I would go exactly the opposite. Chinese procurement is rife with corruption, they tend to inflate their capabilities (opposite to the US which tends to under-sell their own capabilities). I think people simply fail to understand how the CCP and the Chinese system really work, how their industrial and military complex is tied into the CCP at every level, and how corrupt their system is. The fact you think that Chinese contractors wouldn't 'dare' to charge the CCP extreme amounts of money kind of points to the fact you really don't understand...the CCP CONTROLS those contracts and contractors, and they are the ones who benefit directly from the corruption.
The main reason why US development is plagued with delays and over-cost is because we have something here called "AUDITS" and the audits often find issues during the whole process from planning to manufacturing. The idea of audits is to find flaws and fix them.
Edit - When you're stealing and copying technology like the Chinese, you don't need to audit your process because the Americans and Russians have already gone through it.
@@xt7519 Must agree. The Soviets (and current Russia) were no different, every level of industry and government was on the take. And everyone knew it and kept their mouth shut, they where all potentially guilty of something. Sure, some Chinese heads may roll at times to make a point, but the corruption is baked into these systems. Corruption is always present, its just how much you allow it to sap your efficiency.
@@plflaherty1 Exactly. In China (and Russia as pointed out earlier) it's systemic...it's baked into their system from top to bottom. It boggles my mind that people seem to think that the CCP (or the Russian Federation) is some sort of lean, mean fighting machine, that Chinese companies(who are often owned or controlled by various CCP officials) are in fear of the government and thus aren't prone to corruption, etc etc. That view of reality is simply incomprehensible to me, though I guess it stems from how good the CCP is at subverting Western media and elites to propagate such a ridiculous narrative. Like Russia's propaganda, it's obviously working (one of the few things that does seem to work well in their systems...just need to dangle big piles of cash and people fall all over themselves to lap up your narrative).
Yes i need to save this channel or pin it man
16:55 WTH was that? WZ-7 recon drone with FOUR wings? Jet biplane?
So wait, Rocket Money is supposed to save you money by cancelling subscriptions, but in order to actually do that you have to....spend money. You got First World Problems Binkov
The ultimate metric is how many of the opposing planes has each aircraft shot down? F-15 has lost zero in air combat. 4 flankers have been shot down.
Way more than 4 have been lost.
@@imjashingyou3461 I thought that too, but cannot find out if more have been online. I imagine a lot more have just crashed from the fact they are shit.
@@m1k3droid That is not even remotely an "ultimate metric." Flanker and its derivatives are superbly capable aircraft which have seen much, much more contested combat use than F-15. From an airframe standpoint, it is every bit an equal to American designs. The avionics have stagnated, with the exception the the newest variants.
Roughly 40 Su-27 variants have been confirmed lost in the air during the current conflict. Unfortunately, F-16s will join that list once they are delivered. Such is war.
This is the most erroneous factor to take in the comparison.
Using the performances of F15 with a coalition of 40 country armed to the teeth against countries with a small outdated or nearly non existent air force like the Iraki, Lybian or Serbian as an example to draw conclusions is delusional.
@@starchild692 The soviets supplied their planes to as many or more countries than the US did, so your claim here is false.
It was depend on the pilot , thats the point
So US again.
For the algo gods!
AIM 260 is already in low level production.
No its not
On another note the latest iteration AIM-120D3 achieved the "the longest known air-to-air missile shot to date" against a test drone according to a recent USAF test. But the longest range achieved by an American AAM is 132 miles (210km) with AIM-54 Phoenix in the early 1980s. So this already puts AIM-120D3 in parity with Meteor or PL-15 in terms of range. Then their is still Raytheon's 400km LREW but the biggest game changer is their Peregrine missile which essentially doubles the amount of AAMs both F-22 and F-35 can carry.
What If Japan 🇯🇵 remained neutral during the time of WW2
then it wouldn't be a world war, it would just be a european war
The US likely would have never gotten directly involved and only been a supplier of goods.
Fool Japan was not asked to be an ally by the winners. They were Asian perps part of the Axis by convenience
The U.S. needs much longer air to air missiles.
AIM-260 under development
What's wrong with 185nmi confirmed AIM-260?
@@alhayes89, it's already operational since 2023..
The f-22's that just flew into Poland I believe and Guam did not come empty-handed...
@@alhayes89its on aircraft rn
That's what she said.
Well Indonesia still has contract for 11 Su-35 and currently approved to buy up to 36 F-15EX .
Something tells me Russia won't be delivering anytime soon lol.
Indonesia is also buying 42 Rafeles.
Why would they waste money on Su-35 whats tech is on 1990s level?
fact：
the number of 055 destroyer greater than f15ex
Built by boeing too. So people might want to think twice.
This comparison is mostly pointless since the F-15EX and the J-16 are both meant to be missile trucks for 5th gen stealth fighters, and their own combat performance is irrelevant in that role. All that really matters is who has the stealthier front line planes and better long range missiles.
likely this, maybe that.... yep and this one is definitely better... lol
"Release the Eagle".
“The what?”
*demonic music intensifies*