How's maintenance on a Porsche 911? - 997 REVIEW (Routine Maintenance / Reliability)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @sailingfromswitzerland
    @sailingfromswitzerland 2 года назад +2

    Every year: Change oil & filter
    Every 2 years: same as above + Replace brake fluid, Replace engine air intake filter, Replace cabin pollen filter
    Every 4 years: same as above + Replace spark plugs, Replace tire sealant
    Every 6 years: same as year 2 + Replace drive belt, Change PDK clutch oil (if PDK), Replace front differential controller oil (if C4 model), Clean throttle body
    Every 12 years: same as year 4 and year 6 + Change transmission oil, Replace front differential oil (if C4 model)

  • @CarFanatic
    @CarFanatic  9 лет назад +10

    Quick update since I made the video. It took me 4 hours with the car on the lift to change the transmission fluid and spark plugs. Transmission fluid takes less than an hour. The spark plugs took me about 3 hours. Questions and comments welcomed!

    • @BrainDesmo
      @BrainDesmo 8 лет назад +1

      +Car Fanatic, Two questions. Did you have to use special tools to do the spark plugs replacement? Did you have to remove other parts first, before gaining access to the plugs?

    • @VENUEATHENS
      @VENUEATHENS 8 лет назад +3

      it would probably be difficult, but I would love to see the process involved in changing out/replacing some the parts you mention.. perhaps in a future video, would be great to see!

    • @edszostak9965
      @edszostak9965 6 лет назад

      Always use CO (Carbon dioxide) to place inside the transmission to remove all the oxygen, this will eliminate any air bubbles. CO can be purchased in a can, and it releases slowly. if you do not use CO, you will always be short on heavy transmission oil, but with all air removed, it will fill to the max correctly.

  • @walkernursing
    @walkernursing 6 лет назад +4

    I do want to say THABK YOU! for making this question a lot easier for me. In all honesty, I’m sure we all appreciate you informing us about all this.

  • @jeronimoc888
    @jeronimoc888 8 лет назад +4

    nice video, great to see people taking on basic tasks no matter what car brand it is

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +2

      +Jeronimo C absolutely. Not only do you save yourself from getting ripped off by the dealers, but you learn about your vehicle and you'll know the work was done right. I plan on tackling as much as I can within my abilities and equipment. So far, changing the spark plugs has been the most difficult maintenance I performed. It's not too bad as long as you have access to a lift and don't have to deal with corroded muffler bolts! Thanks for watching and the encouraging words!

  • @wholeNwon
    @wholeNwon 8 лет назад +33

    Saw a buddy last week. I said, "I see you have a 997.1". He said, "No, it's a 911". So I asked, "Have the RMS and IMS bearing been replaced?" Reply, "What?" So, there wasn't much to say except, "Oh...I like the color". "Yes", he replied, "That's what sold me on the car." Go figure.

  • @Casper-we3dq
    @Casper-we3dq 7 лет назад +1

    Great video! I think the 997.2 is a great value sports car. I have a Golf GTI at the moment but plan on getting the 997.2 next.

  • @mattka5354
    @mattka5354 8 лет назад

    How about brake pads and rotors? DIY cost vs. Dealer. Would be great if you can post a video! Your videos demystify the DIY aspects of this great car. Thanks!

  • @jfv65
    @jfv65 8 лет назад +1

    you didn't mention the coolant. It needs to be changed every few years as well, specially in colder climates. It has anti-freeze properties and it also protects the engine against internal corrosion which is important in all climates.
    a good workshop will have a testtool (prism) which is used to test if the coolant is still OK for cold climate.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      +jfv65 great advice and catch! Porsche actually claims their antifreeze coolant is "lifetime" and only recommends topping off the system. However, I'll probably flush it out every few years. Thanks for watching! And I hope you subscribe to the channel!

    • @CtRacerX
      @CtRacerX 8 лет назад

      You're right that the coolant is life time, but I can assure you changing it every 80K isn't a bad idea.

  • @johnbenton5102
    @johnbenton5102 8 лет назад

    SUPER helpful! cool to see you do it yourself!

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      John, thanks for watching. I hope you subscribe to the channel. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see.

  • @StreetDrivenDaily
    @StreetDrivenDaily 8 лет назад

    here oil at walmart cost $24 and if you go to pelicanparts , oil filter is about $11. I also work on my 996TT myself :) cool channel, subbed

  • @arainla
    @arainla 9 лет назад

    Great videos! I have a gen 1 911 but enjoy watching these videos. It would be great if you filmed the actual steps since I'm not mechanically inclined and worry some step would get me hung up.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  9 лет назад

      I'll try to get some maintenance footage the next time I perform some. I recently filmed this video about how to remove the mufflers. This would be relevant for replacing the spark plugs.
      m.ruclips.net/video/_Wm-7ivKTpg/видео.html
      More to come and thanks for the feedback!

  • @Engleburt
    @Engleburt 7 лет назад

    Thanks for another great video! Good information and easy to follow.

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker 8 лет назад +3

    The 997.2 is the Lexus of sports cars. Can't wait to get rid of my Mk6 GTI and be in a vehicle that didn't get half-assed.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +Abe Froman it'll happen soon enough! The bright side is that the 997.2 will likely continue to depreciate.

  • @myreviews4905
    @myreviews4905 8 лет назад

    Have you tried Redline Oil? It is the best oul out there.They also have trans fluid. Its probably a good idea to change oil at 5000-7500 miles. Trans/diff fluid at 30-40k miles. Motul 8100 XCess is also a good oil. I like Mahle filters better than Mann. And NGK spark plugs over everything else.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +HJS NA I haven't tried Redline, but try to stick to Porsche recommended fluids. In terms of oil, I think Mobile 1 every 10k miles or 1 year is sufficient. For transaxle fluid, Porsche uses a very oil spec. Most people recommend sticking to the Porsche fluid. The commercial name is Mobile 1 Mobilube, which can only be purchased in large drums. As for spark plugs, I would not recommend NGK plugs. The OEM plugs are Bosch. There are no real benefits of running different plugs on a stock engine and only potential downsides. So that's why I try to use the original parts and fluids when possible. Thanks for watching!

    • @myreviews4905
      @myreviews4905 8 лет назад

      +Car Fanatic Your choice, but atleast look into it. Porsche also had OCI of 20k miles at one time and now has lowered it. BMW had the OCI auo to 15k and no wits back down to 10K. But if you talk to the techs, most of them suggest OCI at 5K "if you are going to keep you car for a long time". I have a 98 M3 and got a new/reman trans from BMW. I changed out the MTF LT2 fluid and put in Redline MTL, it's smooth as butter. Redline Oil also makes all my cars run quieter and smoother than when I used Mobil 1. I am not getting paid for it. Also some of the Bosch plugs are made by NGK.

  • @foobar88
    @foobar88 8 лет назад +1

    Great video, thanks for the information! How long have you owned the car? I have a hard time believing you won't have to replace things like air flow sensors, radiators, etc. over time as well. Any insight into the less-reliable components of the car?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      +Matthew Ribe I've owned the car for 1.5 years. I was focusing just on the routine maintenance. Those things you mentioned may eventually need replacing, but I don't hear of general failures. I've heard of the clutch switch and water pumps going, but no issues as of yet. You can check out rennlist.com. but as far as I know, the 997.2 has no major issues. Very reliable cars.

  • @BabaGanoush512
    @BabaGanoush512 7 лет назад

    Awesome vids! Super helpful!

  • @jwaimlelsi
    @jwaimlelsi 8 лет назад

    Your video answered many questions.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      Thanks James! Glad it was helpful.

  • @SonofSilas
    @SonofSilas 9 лет назад +6

    In the UK the money you save doing your own maintenance you would lose twice over when you want to sell it. The dealer's service stamps are worth so much at resale time.
    If you never plan on selling it or will keep it for decades not such a big deal.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  9 лет назад +6

      service records always help, but I think proper documentation and a thorough PPI can mitigate this. at the end of the day, you have to consider whether to crazy dealer prices will be recouped at resale.

    • @mirabarrett01
      @mirabarrett01 9 лет назад +8

      That's unfortunate because I would trust an owner over some buffoon/ape at the dealer.

    • @Fedgery007
      @Fedgery007 9 лет назад +8

      Nobody is going to take better care of their 911 than the owner. This idea that shop's always do a better and more thorough job is a joke.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  9 лет назад +2

      As long as owners k ow what they're doing :). I will leave the major maintenance items like clutch to the experts.

    • @Fedgery007
      @Fedgery007 9 лет назад

      +Car Fanatic I can agree with that. I didn't trust myself enough to do a timing belt...so yes, I paid someone to do that! But if I have the time...and the money to do it myself...I will always do it myself.
      I can't tell you how many times people I know have brought their vehicles into the shop and get them back with screws missing and hoses that are just hanging there!

  • @dericanslum1696
    @dericanslum1696 8 лет назад +33

    ...jest undur dare...

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +4

      +Deric' Anslum lol. I had no idea what your comment was about, but now I get it! :)

    • @logwind
      @logwind 8 лет назад

      +Deric' Anslum hahaha

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 8 лет назад +2

    This guy has quite the accent. "De" for the, "ode" for old, etc. Good video though, shows that owning one of these if you are a little proficient with a wrench isn't that expensive.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +2

      +Flies2FLL Lol. Thanks for the feedback. I'll tell you...it's really tough to make videos and have perfect grammar/enunciation. But, I'm pretty proud I was able to make this video with only one take. Thanks for watching!

  • @Porschee944
    @Porschee944 4 года назад

    God Job Man !

  • @navarrouk3487
    @navarrouk3487 9 лет назад

    great video man! thanks.

  • @mzsaad
    @mzsaad 8 лет назад

    do you have a video for changing the brake fluid?

  • @jwaimlelsi
    @jwaimlelsi 8 лет назад

    Are you really doing your own basic maintenance? If you are, are you a car mechanic or how did you learn to do the basic maintenance?
    Great videos!

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +2

      +James Williams I am not a mechanic, but have worked on cars as an enthusiast for the last 15 years. I find instructions online. Additionally, I have an account on www.alldatadiy.com which was provides online service manuals. It's really not too difficult as long as you know your capabilities and what all is involved and have the correct tools.

    • @jwaimlelsi
      @jwaimlelsi 8 лет назад

      Thank you very much. I'm still looking for the right 911.

  • @erikc3042
    @erikc3042 5 лет назад

    I have a 2009 997. How often do you need to replace the coolant?

  • @splice247
    @splice247 8 лет назад

    why did you buy the "porshe" trans fluid? it said right on the bottle 75w-90 (i think) why not just go with some quality gear oil such as mobil1? $15qt vs $50? I would recomend 30k interval with the trans fluid, unlike motor oil there is no filter (on most manual cars) and the oil is heavily abused especially under performance driving

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      +splice247 the closest non-Porsche fluid is Mobile Mobilube, but it can only be purchased in bulk (like 100 quarts). I didn't want to take any chances based on recommendations from other owners. Surprisingly, the transaxle fluid at 60k miles looked pretty clean. Porsche doesn't recommend changing it until 100k miles. I didn't feel any difference at all after changing the fluid, so I'm starting to trust Porsche's service recommendation. Thanks for watching!

  • @omarmalaika5597
    @omarmalaika5597 7 лет назад +1

    what transmission oil?
    how to replace pdk oil?
    I know it has two types (hydraulic and w90)!!!

  • @rtydingco
    @rtydingco 8 лет назад

    Hey Car Fanatic, where can you find tech manuals and maintenance schedules for Porsche ? I have scoured the net and have come up empty. Thank's, Rich

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      Check out www.pelicanparts.com. They have a lot of DIY tutorials.

  • @veltruski
    @veltruski 8 лет назад +1

    What about coolant and water pump?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      +veltruski coolant is "lifetime," but that's BS. Water pump is replaced when it fails. That is hard to predict. Most people replace the coolant every 4-5 years or whenever they have to perform a repair that involves draining the coolant.

  • @chillipompom5263
    @chillipompom5263 8 лет назад +3

    , every 10k miles
    i dont dare to go that much with my ford festiva with one oil :)

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +chili pom pom well, it's I've Porsche recommends. Also synthetic oil also lasts longer than conventional.

    • @cooperlevin
      @cooperlevin 8 лет назад

      Don't forget the wear is distributed over 10 quarts. I am pretty sure the Festiva holds a little less.

  • @hcooC
    @hcooC 8 лет назад +1

    How do you talk to the onboard computer, to tell it you've done those things?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +2

      +Darren Boman great question! I just don't look at the service message that appears. It goes away as soon as you put the car in gear. However, you can get a $200 durametric cable, which can reset it along with other programming abilities.

  • @Dany-hi5hu
    @Dany-hi5hu 9 лет назад

    awsome video. Im thinking of purchasing a 997.2 but can only justify it if I can do some routine maintenance myself. Curious, do you require special tools to work on it? i.e. special sockets or wrenches?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  9 лет назад

      +Dany Chuck You don't need too many special tools. The car uses a lot of metric bolts along with torx screws and bolts. You'll need to purchase large sockets and wrenches every now and then to do things like the oil change and drive belt. You will need a low profile jack and jack stands with a flat top. Overall, it's easy maintenance.

    • @PorscheCarreraS
      @PorscheCarreraS 9 лет назад

      +Dany Chuck Routine maintenance such as oil changes, brake and rotor changes are all extremely easy and do not require any special tools. If you have any plans on getting a GTS model try and avoid the center lock wheels. The center lock wheels do require a very special and expensive tool to remove the wheels.

    • @Dany-hi5hu
      @Dany-hi5hu 9 лет назад

      Appreciate the responses! Ive only found one other channel with diys for this exact model 997.2 keep it up, i think, you found a niche

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  9 лет назад

      +Dany Chuck Will do! I have a few more videos coming: car wash technique, how to jack vehicle on all fours, driving impressions.

  • @jeffrey-f
    @jeffrey-f 8 лет назад +1

    I'm scared to pay to get my clutch replaced lol I might try myself

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +3

      +Jeffrey F I don't think it's worth the trouble. Take it to the shop and spend $2k to have it replaced. It'll save you three headache.

  • @Bern2280
    @Bern2280 6 лет назад

    How often should the transmission fluid changed? Coolant? And other fluids?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  6 лет назад

      Porsche recommends 120k miles for the transmission fluid and lifetime for the coolant. I did my transmission fluid at 60k miles. My coolant is still in good shape. Brake fluid is every two years or 20k miles.

  • @luismanrique5373
    @luismanrique5373 7 лет назад

    Question:
    Aren't you supposed to change the brake fluid according to the moisture content? Why recommend anyone to change anything only if a book says you have to? instead, let us perform some tests and verify the fluid has been compromised due to the high moisture content or contamination.
    Sources:
    www.cars.com/articles/2013/12/does-brake-fluid-need-to-be-changed/
    bottomlineinc.com/life/car-maintenance/car-maintenance-you-dont-need-including-most-every-kind-of-flush

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  7 лет назад

      +Luis Manrique yeah, that's right. I think unless you live in a dry climate, your brake fluid will absorb some moisture. How much really depends. I have a brake fluid tester that I use to determine my brake fluid condition.

  • @Demoaccount-i2k
    @Demoaccount-i2k 6 лет назад

    Hello Sir
    3.6 vs 3.8, any common known issues 3.6has that you know of, looking at 911 3.6 tiptronic
    Any info most appreciated

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  6 лет назад

      The 997.2 engines are different from the 997.1 engines. 997.1 have more issues. The IMS is the most severe, but isn't that common. In general 997.1s are pretty reliable, but not as good as the 997.2.

    • @Demoaccount-i2k
      @Demoaccount-i2k 6 лет назад

      Car Fanatic from what year 997.2 came out , thanks

  • @arainla
    @arainla 8 лет назад

    How similar is service on 997.1? Understandable if you don't know but curious if you know? Are steps similar?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +arainla I believe the maintenance intervals are the same. The oil filter is underneath the engine, so not as convenient.

    • @CtRacerX
      @CtRacerX 8 лет назад

      The services intervals are the same, however changing the oil filter requires you to be under the car. The process takes all of 15mins. also- I change the oil every 3k-5k (especially if you don't want issues with the valves). Actually, it's time to change my brake fluid, and since you only need 1 liter, I'd go with motul 600f and call it good!

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker 8 лет назад

    The last 911 with a visible engine. Funny how contemporary reviews said it was "hidden". The 991 is literally a big piece of plastic.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +Abe Froman agreed! I love being able to work on my own car!

  • @iliovecaRS
    @iliovecaRS 8 лет назад +4

    you sound like Carlos lago

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +2

      +iliovecaRS that's a first! Hopefully it's a good thing? Lol

    • @iliovecaRS
      @iliovecaRS 8 лет назад +1

      +Car Fanatic that guy from motor trend he's cool lol

  • @Bern2280
    @Bern2280 7 лет назад

    How do you reset/remove the “service now” message on the instrument cluster?"

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  7 лет назад

      +Bernard Chiu you need either a durametric cable or special Porsche equipment. Mine is on, but it goes away when I put the car in gear.

  • @swsschz
    @swsschz 8 лет назад

    Are there any issues on your 997.2 similar to the 997.1 IMS/RMS/AOS?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +Ronald Suizo So far there hasn't been any widespread issues affecting the new DFI engines. I've heard of issues of carbon buildup and bore scoring, but these are one off cases! Thanks for watching!

  • @ZDY66666
    @ZDY66666 7 лет назад

    I see everyone change oil every 5 to 8 thousand KM. I got my GTS new, and first oil replacement is 15k km according to the dealership by the books. Is this too much? The ones after the first are even further apart!

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  7 лет назад

      +ZDY I'm going to change my oil around 7500 miles. The recommended interval is 10k miles, but my independent mechanic said the oil was very dirty at that interval.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  7 лет назад

      +ZDY oh sorry, saw that you have a 997 not a Cayenne. I think that sounds about right. I change my oil annually which is around 4k miles.

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 7 лет назад

      Car Fanatic sorry u forgot to mention, this is neither a 997 nor a Cayenne. It is a Cayman GTS with the 3.4 litre flat 6

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 7 лет назад

      Car Fanatic 10 miles is about 16k km. And my recommended for first oil is 15km. Although I had to top it off 3 times (once every 3k km) before the 15k km mark. Which scares me that the engine has issues out of the factory....
      And I think it is every 10k km from there? Cannot remember. But definitely NOT as frequent as let's say 5 miles which is roughly 7k km.

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 7 лет назад

      Car Fanatic what I am scared of is that there is an issue with the engine but it doesn't surface until past the 4 year warranty :/
      Never seen a car needing 3 oil top offs for just 8 k miles (13ish k km). And then a oil change at 14k km.
      Even for a car that is breaking in, should it be that much? I don't even drive it that spirited it. Most of the time just cruising to work. With maybe a drive in the country once or twice a month spiritedly.

  • @Davidwhat
    @Davidwhat 8 лет назад

    thanks for making this video! ;-)

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +Davidwhat NP, one correction. Serpentine belt should be checked every 40k miles and replaced every 60k miles.

  • @allnaturalallnatural3202
    @allnaturalallnatural3202 8 лет назад

    where is a good place to buy Parts for Porsche besides the dealership

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      I like www.ecstuning.com. Great interface. However, www.autohausaz.com usually has cheaper prices.

  • @BohdanCezar
    @BohdanCezar 6 лет назад +1

    You forgot to mention brakes

  • @BluexPresents
    @BluexPresents 8 лет назад

    Do you daily drive this car? If so any comments on what its like to live with everyday?

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      +BluexPresents I wish I could DD my car! She's a weekend warrior, but would make a fine DD. I met a lady at a gas station with the same car who shuttles her two kids around in it. The car has been trouble free in my 2 years of ownership. There are two downsides I can think of, storage space and flat tire situation. The frunk can fit a medium sized cooler, but that's about it. You do, however, have the rear seats that fold down. Additionally, the car doesn't have a spare tire. If the tire sealant kit doesn't work, you'll have to call a tow truck.

  • @jiffy421
    @jiffy421 8 лет назад

    Spend more on your fluids and filters

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      +jiffy421 Which fluids/filters are you referring to? Mobile 1 0-W40 oil and Mahle/Mann oil filters are OEM. They just happen to be cheap :). The transaxle fluid is Genuine Porsche and costs a whopping $40/quart! I guess I could use OEM Porsche brake fluid, but have heard good things about ATE Typ 200.

    • @jiffy421
      @jiffy421 8 лет назад

      Royal Purple

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +jiffy421 whats the benefit? Mobile one synthetic us perfectly adequate for lubricating the engine as long as it's changed regularly.

  • @bucsfan2565
    @bucsfan2565 8 лет назад +1

    Cool

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +Daniel Raynor thank you!

    • @bucsfan2565
      @bucsfan2565 8 лет назад

      Car Fanatic is it weird having a car with the engine in the back there?

  • @serby1245
    @serby1245 8 лет назад

    Super cheap for a $20 filter? How about a $5 Fram for my Evo9? That's cheap.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад +1

      $20 is cheap to me :). The filter actually costs $12-15, but I think I rounded. I'm sure there air cheaper oil filters out there, but I try to stick with OEM parts.

  • @holdthedoor3782
    @holdthedoor3782 6 лет назад

    okay you're embellishing. an oil change is not $70.... the oil itself costs around $90 the car takes 9 quarts or less and not to mention the oil filter.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  6 лет назад +1

      That's just for oil and filter. Check out my links. $50 gets you 10 quarts of Mobil 1. $20 for a filter and new oil plug gasket.

    • @holdthedoor3782
      @holdthedoor3782 6 лет назад

      thanks, did not know you could get oil for that cheap on Amazon wow..

    • @ImportedFromSerbia
      @ImportedFromSerbia 6 лет назад +1

      hold thedoor not only Amazon, but Meijers, Farm & Fleet, The Home Depot, etc... 25$ for 5 qts.

  • @swarm6697
    @swarm6697 2 года назад

    Oh hell of a lot more cheaper than a Ferrari

  • @denniswagner3962
    @denniswagner3962 8 лет назад

    It's not A T E brake fluid.. It's pronounced ah-teh.

    • @CarFanatic
      @CarFanatic  8 лет назад

      +Dennis Wagner good to know. Thanks!

  • @Basih
    @Basih 7 лет назад

    I'm not touching my 997. I'd rather pay Porsche Center to do it and have proper history on the car. You'll earn the money back when selling.

    • @luismanrique5373
      @luismanrique5373 7 лет назад

      ENGINEERS > MECHANICS aka "Technicians" ....Good record keeping of anything is worth more than just throwing money out the window.

  • @1951blackbird
    @1951blackbird 8 лет назад +1

    Well that was interesting, a man goes shopping and puts all the stuff on the floor in the garage. What a video, interesting, like a dog licking its arse!