Here's What One Month of Porsche 911 Ownership Has Taught Me
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2018
- A brand new (to you) car is often leads to love at first sight, but what happens when the newness wears off and you transition to a long-term relationship? On this episode of eatsleepdrive we talk about what I've learned in a little over a month of ownership with my 911 and answers the question of what it's like after the initial drive.
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I used to own a 996 911 Cabriolet back when I was in the US and I can tell you that Porsche 911s are the MOST practical supercars you can ever own. You can be soft or hard on it and it can take it. It's a really fun car to drive. I'm looking forward to getting the 997 next here in Japan.
Hope you find the right one for you!
Have a 79 930 911 turbo. She’s amazing. Oil cooled, loud, handles well, and shifting through the gears in a true manual from the 80’s is second to none
My Lexus has 3 settings for the suspension. I had it in “comfort” mode because the ride is softer but my daughter was sliding around in the back when cornering so I switched it to “sport” and the body roll pretty much stopped. I think it’s very useful depending on what you’re attempting to do with the vehicle.
Congratulations! It's a really great feeling getting one's dream car. I'm a Corvette guy, and man, that feeling when I bought my first one.
You're right about to some extent about the pendulum effect. I've seen a 997 CS stock spinning on some bends, Thunderhill track in CA turn 1 as an example, doing 90 mph and the same year Cayman S, 987, doing the same speed, the Cayman S just sliced through. You will not experience the pendulum effect on the street but on the track better know how to trail brake, don't lift, and throttle steer. Physics rule at the end, Porsche just knows how to push it. At the end of the day in the track light weight mid engine cars rules in dynamics and the model/brands rule in boulevard/street cruising bragging rights.
Nice Video. I own a 2015 911 S and it finally has auto headlights. You are correct, it is really hard to break the back loose unless you drive at 8/10 on a hot road in the middle of the summer. Then maybe... Also, not sure about the 997, but in the 991 with a sunroof, if you have the sunroof open and you go above 75, the wing will actually rise about 10 degrees higher so you can see it in the mirrors. Love that.
Great video! Most of those quirks are gone in the the 991. But the drive is amazing, enjoy the drive!
I don’t wanna hear anyone outside of Doug Demuro mention “quirks”
I dOn'T WAnNA hEAR anYoNE ouTSiDe of dOUg DEMuRo mEnTIoN "QuiRKS"
I don't wanna hear anyone say anything else other than "RAGE OF THE ANCIENTS!"
Hasn't Doug already patented that? Ain't it some form of infringement going on here?
Ya, quirks is taken.
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Ayo O, Doug is great at RUclips reviews, modern day car commentator, but if you look back at Top Gear you can see that Doug was not the original quirk identifier.
ruclips.net/video/JGRXIDf9yTg/видео.html
I cant wait to be able to own a Porsche man. These cars seems to have the right balance of comfort and performance.
I have a 911/997 S convertible had a year now LOVE IT I agree with the lighting comment but set mine to have daytime running light on with ignition (do this is setting ) no doubt about it 911 are the dogs
Great vid from you thanks.
DJ MotoVlogs you can do it! In 2008 I bought a 9 9 6 series Porsche 911 for $15,000. It was salvage and I invested another 7000 to have it painted. My kids and wife hated the car when it was completed because it was way too small and inconvenient. I loved it but I was in the driver seat.
What about reliability??
ItAintGaY porsche is top reliable as german TÜV reports say. also DEKRA agrees on it. best german brand
I have a Boxster for 2.5 years now and absolutely nothing broke :) So I only did the scheduled 20K mile oil + brake fluid change; and over that time, I topped up just a little bit more than 1 litre of engine oil, so that was my only other expense. There is also no rattling of parts or any other annoying BS going on... not saying that Porsches never brake, but I can only tell of my own experience.
Headlight can be programmed to be always on whenever the engine is running and will switch off once you shut off.
997.1 turbo with the dsc is a game changer. What really works well on a turbo is the bilstein B8s with Gmg lowering springs, gt2 rear bar and the dsc.
Great video! Thanks for the information.
Love your Porsche videos! Had mine fora month now, love it!
I owned one for (2) years... once all the little plastic pieces and rubber hoses start failing (due to age) all the tiny maintenance bills begin to start adding up to thousands and thousands. I spent about $6k on my car in 2 years and another $6k in modifications. It was a blast to own, was actually a very reliable DD, but I ended up needing more space/comfort creatures and landed back in an Audi that I am currently modifying. It was my extra 3rd car, and I wont be back in one until its my 4th car. I highly encourage everyone that is in to sports car to atleast own one for some amount of time
That way you can turn your headlights off when you're running from Cops and get into an ally way 👍
rudy torres amen brother
I have an 05 carrera s and trust me, the cold start is incredible
This is the most real and honest 911 review I’ve ever come across on RUclips!
Enjoy your 911!! :))
Too bad about the firm suspension. Porche might want to offer a real adaptive ride control personalized to the driver's taste, mood and ability to handle this race car. Another point to consider is that in Europe, particularly in Germany, those Barvarians fix their roads. In America, we often do it when it's an absolute necessity or when you can actually plant small trees in the pot holes. Just a thought.
I am currently researching the 997 with a view to buying . Your video was honest and helpful. Hope you post more covering reliability and running cost. Thanks. BTW the headlights thing,not really a big deal unless your arms and hands don't function! Lol You have a 911!
I agree 100% on cold starts, I have after market exhaust and it just makes my day to hear that sound. I recommend you 1st use some WD40 then a decent lube on the rear lid rails, took many times for me until it sounded fine.
I'm retiring next year and will be in the market for exactly that...thanks for the info.
At 5:50, "the widow maker" comments you're hearing are a reputation from the 70s that won't die. The 70s 911 Turbos that had a lot of power and immense turbo lag. You would get a violent boost of sudden power, lose control, and die. It's kinda badass
Joe GF how do you know about that?
@@marianluc6235 Common knowledge. Lots of Internet sources if you search.
first time i heard, that a 997 c2s is called a “widowmaker”
930 turbo is a real “widowmaker”
in 997 family, you can try that nickname on GT2 only , and even than , its not close enough to be there
I had bigger problems with shaky handling caused by the rear tires being cold, than the engine placement and that's true for my current (C5) Corvette as well.
The 911 as a "widow maker" stopped being a true more or less in the 90's when the 911 stopped being air cooled. Even though there's no correlation causing a water cooled engine having better handling, it was around that time that Porsche engineers got electronic handling figured out. Also, for the last 50 years the engine in the 911 has moved further and further forward, to the point where the center of mass for the engine is millimeters behind the rear axle.
It's kinda weird that Chevrolet can move the engine of the Corvette behind the seat but in front of the rear axle and motor journalists pee their collective pants in exitement, but if Porsche put the engine of the 911 in front of the rear axle the same people could scream "blasphemy!".
@@Car_Mo No...they would scream Cayman!
Nice car dude. Enjoy!
Amazing to talk of owning such prestige car. I have seen Porsche 911 at hotel of previous employment. Amazing !
I would suggest most Porsche owners are not concerned about a music system in the car. This is a fabulous sports car for driving and the best music is from the rear of the car.. I've had two 911s and after having laid out bundles of money for regular maintenance I decided that I no longer could keep them. I still love the cars and if I was a rich guy I'd have one.
Loving the vids on your 997. Am thinking about buying one myself this autumn.
And thanks for not producing videos that only focus on exhaust noise or show guys doing asinine, tire smoking starts. So great to see an adult talking about a fine car. Keep up the good work.
Q: Hows the sound system? (which one does yours have?)
Thank you! Mine has the Bose system, it's just 'ok' I would say sound quality wise. But really, the driving experience makes up for the 'ok' stereo. Good luck on your search!
I have a Panamera 4 which is a vehicle I’ve never owned before. I’ve had it for over a month and MMAAAAANNN! I love the way it feels and handles. It’s smooth and powerful! I drove it from Miami Florida to Nebraska and WOW! That was the longest and yet the best drive I’ve ever had!
Always happy to c another happy Porsche owner!
Takes one to know one!
Ideal Cars might get lucky
Dude...it is a special car... I love my 2017S
I'm just editing my review of a 997 GTS and mentioned you always have to hit the spoiler button, just because it looks cool. I also thought the same thing, you fire it up cold start and it sounds like a lion growling. I need one of these so bad.
I've had a rear tire blow out on my 64 CORVAIR while pushing it hard mid-corner and had no problem... Porsche's post 1980's are very stable.
Subbed and thumbd up bro keep em goin i love the 997 best 911 ever made =)
Cood vid. One thing, make sure that wing never stops working. It is there because without it the Coanda effect will get you.
Great video. Hopefully I'll be looking for a 997 in a few months. BTW, what year is your car?
Thanks! Mine is an 06. Enjoy the hunt!
As a Porsche owner, you simply have to watch some of the video on the Nordshleilfe (Nurburgring) It's Porsche's R & D center with more than 6,000 employees. Your Porsche has done laps on the Ring. 14.2 miles of twisting curves, hills and super speed straits. The most challenging, dangerous race course on Earth!
Great videos, subbing for sure! Keep them up! I love the 997!!
I love 997.1 too
We love the 997 too! Great machines!
I've given up on the CD player in mine. It feels like the engineers grudgingly added it as an option, much like the "cup holders". Have you found the single rear fog light?
The 997 is an excellent 911. You can keep that one for years. I have a friend with a 997 Turbo and it is a beautiful car. I did not know that about the spoiler speed: My 2015 981 Cayman S spoiler deploys at 70 MPH and I think it retracts at 50 MPH. I normally keep it in the up position because I like it better that way.
FYI PASM is always on. When the light isn't on it is in "normal mode" PASM. The electronic dampers are working away. Makes it more comfortable and adapts to road dynamically. When you hit the button, it puts it in PASM sport mode. Yes, that's a lot less comfortable and not great for anything but a smooth road.
Great video, I live in Ohio as well (Cleveland). My girlfriend and I got a chance to do the Porsche World Driving Tour at Mid Ohio several years ago. I was blown away by the quality the cars. When my girlfriend got the invite, I thought it was fake. I thought, no way would Porsche let potential customers drive their cars on a racetrack for free. I was wrong! What a car company. I am determined to own a Porsche before I leave this earth.
Stock 997 C2S suspension is based on cheapest Bilstein B4s shocks. PASM suppoused to be 'active susspension', but that B4s Damptronic shocks don't do their job at all (you get B12 Damptronic with Turbo and GT3). The PASM (beside choosed mode) is working with G-sensors, but in 997.1 it's 2-axis modul, and you can't even get much better TPC one. With stock PASM modul the ride is much to soft, or MUCH to harsh. Suspension and brakes are the first things that needs to be moded on that car.
I've given up on the CD player in mine. It feels like the engineers grudgingly added it as an option, much like the "cup holders". Have you found the single rear fog light?
You can apply some engine oil on spoiler lifting mechanism. Open hood and you see technical holes to joint lift mechanisms. And there will not be noise after this
Just saw a lot of super cars this weekend at an event. But that Porsche is always my favorite, since childhood.
Mate, make sure the bottom of your wheel centre cap crest(logo), points directly to your air/dust value cap!!!! The porsche gods will thank you. There's two small pin holes in the crest/logo you can use to gently pull out and turn with a bent paperclip 👌
Welcome to porsche ownership!! Its all about the precision and finer details!!!
The exhaust note reminds me of my 2018 wrx. Both boxer engines after all. Have fun.
So, how is the car to drive? I have driven 997S, very similar to yours and loved the pure and yet unique feel of being shoved forwards, that only the pre 991s offer. Would be interested to hear your take on this.
I had 07 I love it such nice touch of fun enjoy man
Great vid pal👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Nice factory track car..don’t worry about the headlights. Try it out on some time trials courses or a good slalom course! Porsche is the embodiment of excellence and needs to be opened up on the road!!
Everything is optional on a porsche. Somebody didn't check auto lights on option sheet. 2nd the "pendulum effect is no longer" in modern 911. Been gone forever. Any rear engine car would tend to oversteer. Actually as you learn it's characteristics you can use slinging that weight out back and get thru a corner faster than pretty much anything hence why 911 s have won more races than any other car. Still not completely fond of water cooked ultra complex modern porsches but that is still one badass car.
TPC’s Dynamic Suspension Controller (DSC) fixes the stock suspension stiffness IMHO. Regular is more forgiving with less body-roll and sport setting for suspension still has plenty of forgiveness but turn in is better. The DSC isn’t cheap, but easy to install and totally worth it on my ‘09 997 Turbo. 👍🏻
One of my dream cars
Congratulations!
Dude Walkmans were the bomb back in the day.
They were meant for people to be active and listen to music.
Not a fair comparison in terms of functionality.
PASM is body control. The button with the shock on it is the sports suspension button which firms up the shocks. If you have PASM it will be a button on the right side of that panel. I have 09 911 Carrara S, my previous 996 TT was the same. Cool car.
PASM(Porsche Active Suspension Management) isn't traction control PSM (Porsche Stability Management).
You're confused, noob. PSM is a sophisticated form of traction control, and is an acronym for Porsche Stability Management. PASM is an acronym for Porsche Active Suspension Management. It electronically controls the suspension dampening, just like the guy in the video said.
Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
PSM is traction control.
Thomas Kiefer Respectfully, You're wrong. The shocks button is PASM.
What is the difference between PASM and PSM?
You’re a Cincinnatian! Dope! Maybe when I see a 911 on i75 it’ll be you lol
I forgot what cd’s looked like, and then the Walkman!? Oh man..... throwback!
I use PASM on mine whenever I am on a good stretch of pavement and in the mood to let her rip a bit ..... I have a 997.1 4s and she is like a train on tracks thru the turns ... I haven't even in the slightest ever had the feeling it was starting or going to wash on a turn and i have pushed it pretty hard (any harder and i would need a track environment).... Enjoy the car they really are a treat to drive.
Holy shit, you still have the Sony CD Walkman! Haven't seen one of those in like a decade and a half
The old 911's used to act very sketchy when cornering (generally when pushing the car to the cornering limits). The new ones are a lot more placid. The old 911's never had a flat deck lid, I assume what you meant is that when your spoiler is up it looks like the old whale tail spoilers.
That headlight switch looks the exact same as the one in my 2007 Passat B6. If that’s the case you can buy an aftermarket headlight switch on eBay that has the “auto” feature and a sensor for around $30. I’d bet you it would work perfectly.
About automatic lights. Have you checked "personalized setup" in your audio system? At least I can add there automatic lights on/off in my '06 997. Setup needs to be done for each "personalized" key.
I get super annoyed when someone tells me "Oh you bought a 911, be careful....." I always ask them which 911 they own. The NEVER own one. It's passive aggressive jealousy, and I love calling them out.
Love your Porsche bro!
Thank you!
Doug, the type of guy you think about when you’re watching other people’s car reviews...
Beautiful car, trying to decide between one of these or a V8 Vantage, the aston may be even more beautiful inside and out....
had to subscribe to a homeboy anyway, but this is a very informative video (in a series of them, I hope). :)
when your doing sub sonic speeds what has been your experience with the spoiler up? Is there improved traction and overall cadence?
The Black Keys - Turn Blue ... Nice!!!
HVAC? Automatic lights? Too much noise when the spoiler goes up? I think you miss the whole point of a Porsche. But I'm glad you like it and glad you are enthusiastic about owning it.
Nice car by the way 👍😉
Cincinnati guy! Nice, I'm originally from Nky/Cincinnati. Great video
Yessir! Glad you enjoyed!
Thank you for sharing. I have to say while it's kind of strange that a 2006 911 doesn't have auto headlights, the 2000 Avalon makes sense because it's for old people. It's a fine car don't get me wrong!
I'm confused. My 2001 Boxster S automatically turns the headlights on/off when the engine starts if the light switch is in the on position... Your 911 doesn't do that?
you leave your headlight switch in the on position? That kills the battery. The running lights stay on even when you pull the key out and lock the car if the headlight is in the on position. I have a 1999 base boxster.
Great review, a steal for under $30k
Are you aware the cd skip is due to the cd player not having a spooling memory buffer. See an audio shop they will fix it😉
Now that its been 5 years, how has your ownership experience been? Especially in the maintenance/repairs section?
Porsche doesn’t give a crap about music in the car. If Porsche had its way...no audio would be offered. You’re supposed to enjoy the cars sound and the drive....not some crappy music.
Bill Beverly shut up numb nuts. Music was around before porsche pull your porchse logo panties out of ur ass
You know how to fix these quirks. Go find some twisty backroads and have at it! Love my 997.2
You can make any car that has rear drive wheels (including awd) snap around by lifting the throttle at the right point. Might be harder with a haldex center diff. but the argument is overblown.
The guy does know the correct pronunciation for Porsche. That's a good beginning.
Definitely a widow maker. There was one crashing into a sign post a couple of houses from where I live. There was no traffic, no people, no nothing. It just ran up the curb and crashed at a corner in a residential area. But, that was 15 years ago.
I will be buying this car in a year or two!
When the spoiler deployed. 😆
Ha! First thing i do is turn ON SPORTS MODE + Turn off the PSM. We are such different human beings 😅
Looking at getting one of these now 😎
An 06' Carrera S was bought for 28k 2 years ago. The 911 market is insane right now. I'm so jealous
Porsche makes everything optional including the headlight package! You also need to lube the wing!
spray some silicon spray on the spoiler lift arms and that noise will go away!
The rear engine weight, even with the 997, does pose challenges, although this has improved measurably. Break hard on a curve and you'll learn painfully. Also, the 2WD 997 is impossible on icy roads; give that a try, not!. With all due respect, the prior statements suggesting that its only the old ones is very incorrect (1980 turbo??) I am on my 11th Porsche. They are made for drivers that know the limits of the car and love testing their own developed skills; never boring!
I love the Super Porsche Active Suspension Management aka SPASM....
PASM is always active, but when you push the button, it activates a “sport” setting.
no one claims it's a widow maker? That's the 80s turbo one.
krbcrwlr nah, thats all rear engine Porsches.
The 1980’s 911 turbo 930 was the first and most notorious widow maker known for incredibly tall gears and turbo lag combined of course with a powerful rear engine. No electronic controls back then. Most ended up wrapped around trees with dead stockbrokers inside. Other classics include similar 911 turbos with minimal electronics and big hp like the 993 GT2 and 996 GT2.
Mike West no, it isn't.
nah, Its actually the 80s turbo 911.
But people who don't know Porsches don't know that. They see rear-engined they think widow maker
If you have PASM installed, the system is always on. The button just turns switches it to PASM sport mode which is for track use and why its incredibly harsh on the streets.
piratesteveninja You are correct re PASM, the guy had it wrong. Non S cars ride harder as they are not adapting all the time.
Caveat means warning. It does not mean an exception. For example you could say “let’s hire those teens to rake the yard, but one caveat, keep a close eye on them.”
70's and 80's turbos were the doctor killers.
Driving on the street it will more than likely never snap around on you BUT when they do it goes from non issue to spun out in the blink of an eye, there is no gradual about it.
I find the older tail lights to be better than the new ones
Kevin Do you mean compared to 991 or 997.2 with LED? I much prefer the 997.2 to the 991, but like the LED over the initial non-LED 997. LED lights are brighter and they last longer. Functionally superior. The crystal look is aesthetically more pleasing in my eye. To each his/her own...
Scott Thompson not talking about the actual lights, but the shape. The old one is not skinny like the new one, but rather much more defined and makes the car look better from the back.
Kevin I also prefer the 997 rear-end (visually) to the 991. The hips are so much better defined in the 997 (especially in the wide-body cars). Just prefer the overall “look” of the 997 over the 991.
Scott Thompson the hips are definitely more defined and the 997 does look better as a whole, but still, we have our own opinions concerning the shape of the tail lights.
Naw, I think we are in agreement on the 997 vs. 991 lights too.
sorry guy said something about firm suspension.I am,not Porsche driver ,mostly Opel or sometimes Mercedes owner.My average speed is 100-120 mph which is rather slow in Germany,but you can have comfy tires and suspension at thhis kind of speed.One time Saab dealer wanted sale to me Saab 900 turbo .That car had awful firm sport suspension .In town rubbish.But on the Autobahn by about 145 mph was just that.Stable like high speed train.I can imagine that 911 which is achieving so 186mph is firm ,but safe driving by that speed .I am living now in UK and have no car (after so 25-30 cars before) but is rather small and I dont like driving coutry roads.But when I'm visiting my son in Lübeck ,I fly to Hamburg and take a rental car ,mostly VW Golf petrol.Between Hamburg and Lübeck is three way Autobahn.Of course I 'm not going with 130 mph on fastest lineor only for short moment for overtaking.Every family diesel is going nowadays 140-150 mph an hour .Maybe I buy me 911 when I am 60-ty but definitely not for towncruising;)And CD ,hmmm it was ancient technik 20 years ago? ;)