*CORRECTION* The Tradesman trim can get the Power Wagon package - you don’t have to get the actual “Power Wagon” trim level to get the off road goodies. Also, this Tremor DOES have the cab mounted bed camera. My bad! Obviously this is a 1 Ton and a 3/4 Ton - they are what were provided, but keep in mind the towing for the F-250 w/Tremor pkg stays the same. Thanks for watching!
Great review/comparison thanks! I love how you brought up the port injection on the V-8‘s as its a far superior design. I went PW for the off road features and softer suspension because I don’t need the towing. 10k lbs is plenty and I’d have NO PROBLEM pushing it all the way to 10k lbs. Most comfortable driving and luxurious vehicle I’ve ever owned. Keeping it forever
Why get a 7,000lb truck with awful mileage that only tows 10k lbs ? Genuinely curious I feel like people step up to trucks this big for hauling or towing. Otherwise why would you get a truck with 16mpg. There’s the Ranger, Tacoma and colorado which all have capable off road models. Or even Raptor leave any other truck in the dust off road. If you don’t care about towing seems like a waste
@@CoyoteFTW Im guessing youre a woman. Thats not meant to be a slight. If youre a man, and dont understand that guys like big trucks, then I dont know what to tell you.
I noticed that he felt that the ford was faster, I have personally raced a f350 with the new 7.3, in my 2019 ram 2500 and won. Ram leaves the line alot harder. But I did have the advantage of 4.10 rears vs. his 3.73
Company I worked for had too many issues with the 6.4 Hemi, that being said, there's no way that I'd spend my own money on a Ram pickup with that engine.
Agreed, from my experience and especially those I know that use/abuse their trucks, it's Ford it all the way. The TRX has upped the game in that genre so I'll give Dodge credit in that department. But of course you know Ford's not going to let that slide and I'm sure the next generation will just go back to advantage Raptor. But of these two that Tremor is absolutely badass!
I have the F350 tremor diesel. Had the power wagon prior. Ford is superior in 90 percent of any off road application and can get all your gear such as a tow BeHIND RV and atvs, side by side’s without screaming the gas engines. I have begged ram for 20 years to put a diesel in the power wagon. AEV builds a nice diesel similar to the power wagon. The Ford diesel tremor is a BAD ASS machine.
I have the Power Wagon. I had the Ford. The Ford was good but the Power Wagon is great-for what I actually use the truck for. There is just no contest off road. For the things I tow, the Ram works for me, and I have towed over 12,000 lbs several times (Sand, Sod,Rock). I do recommend putting 35's or 37's on the Ram. One final observation. I think the Ram is more comfortable driving long distances than the Ford. But they are both well made trucks and I believe you would be happy with either one on or off road.
I’d take the Ford, but the Ram is a nice truck too. I’ve owned a couple Ford and Dodge trucks and the Fords seem to hold up better and have less issues. That’s just my personal experience though. Both beautiful trucks!
ram is king I wish you would've made a bigger deal about the pw having front and rear lockers and disconnecting sway bar like you did with its payload and tow cap.
Both are meannn looking trucks. Fords interior loses me until they update. I have a 19 PW and i look forward to driving everytime i gotta go anywhere. Such a beast and beautiful truck. Tremor especially in black is super dope tho too
Pfft, says you. I don't want my truck looking like the next trendy refrigerator door or whatever it is they're doing with that goofy iPad wannabe. Especially since they can't get the software to work right, lol.
I saw a video a few weeks ago showing Ford was finally working on their interior. Ford owners will have something that is nicer inside...so they're much more comfy while waiting on a tow truck🤣
@@blindsey8234 Sure, on the redesign. This interior is based on 5 year truck design, still better than the new Chevy interiors. To the point Chevy is doing an emergency interior update on their all-new Silverados.
The difference in interior finish is stark. Ram put a lot more effort with this and it shows. Granted, not a big deal to some but if I’m sitting in there I’ll take the Ram.
Love them both and the ‘22s have improvements for each. I’m gonna tow in the future so I’d opt for the Ford with the power stroke. It’s a shame that the Ram PW won’t be getting a Cummins. That would have factored in my decision. Good video. 👍
If the ram came with 35's it would hands down be the better off-roader but luckily that is an easy fix so ram would be my choice. The lack of towing is a bit of a downer but luckily for me I don't really tow over 10k so it works!
@kevin "prelim phenom" lee not really , miss out on comestic on the outside. Alot of cosmetic though. Plus the interior looks like its from 2002 compared to the actual power wagon high end speaker systems, display 12 or 8in and much much more. Plus the tradesman w/ PW package is around what ? 52- 55k MSRP? The real PW all done up your around 65k MSRP . For another 10k your getting a way way more badass truck. Thats just my take on it.
I have a badass Tradesman PW, and it’s used as a truck is designed to be used. I hunt, fish, overland, haul wood and tow a off road camping trailer all over Alaska. I don’t see the added benefit of all the extra tech, leather, sunroof, etc when looking at the true uses a PW was designed for (just my opinion, to each his own my friends). If you look at the history of the PW, the Tradesman is actually much closer to the original intent than the Laramie. Both are just as capable, just the interior and cosmetics are different, which gives you choices. I upgraded my audio system, all lighting, brakes, 35 in Toyo AT 3’s, sliders, Line X pro in the bed/bumpers/ lower body panels , cold air intake, exhaust, and made some performance mods with the money I saved, so for me, it was the right way to go. Either way, the PW holds it’s own against anything else on the market when it comes to capability, it is the best rig going IMO. Happy motoring, get out there and get after it!😎👍
Good vid. I've never had anyone geek out over my vehicle as I've had over my 21, 75thA power wagon. Not a chick magnet, but definitely gets respect everywhere guys exist.
The power Wagon is the Grandfather to all full size 4x4 trucks. Early Ford and G.M's used New Process gear for their transfer cases and transmissions. Chrysler owned New Process and New Venture Gear. New Venture a joint with G.M. Muncie plant.
Very informative, nice shots and editing, good content overall ... last little bit is not looking like you just rolled out of bed. You're one key lanyard and hoody away from the college kid sleepwalking to his first morning class.
Fantastic review, unbiased, factual, spot on opinions based on the trucks options and abilities and not only your own opinion. I must say TFL like, excellent camera work as well. Thank you, your review helped me greatly. PS currently own a 2017 Ford F-250 diesel, strongly considering the power wagon as my needs no longer require the massive towing ability...do love my Ford though, it will be tough to see her go
Thank you very much! That’s awesome...hard to move to a different truck but I’m sure you’ll be happy with the PW. Be sure to take it overnight or for an extended drive if possible to get a food feel 👍
The mirrors on a Ram tip Up and out for towing. And my personal opinion since I have owned both is the Ram mirrors are better. I like a taller mirror for towing.
Just a friendly reminder: If you drive vehicles off road, please get in the habit of keeping your thumbs OUT of the inner steering wheel area...Many have broken thumbs and/or wrists from sliding off a rock or other items and the steering wheel suddenly (and often violently) jerking well to one side or the other...Stay safe brother!
I have a 2007 F-350 SRW 6.0 powerstroke Detroit truetrac in front Detroit locker in rear 4:10 gears. A front locker is not much better unless you get in crazy rock territory. I've been through mud, sand, mild rocks, ruts, ditches....and always both front wheels pulling. The front truetrac is a beast and as close to a locker you can get! Only issue is on ice in Minnesota, it has a tendency to plow forward even during turning around corners
Small thing to most - but a determining factor for me - is the lack of the 40/console/40 front seat in the Ram. I seriously considered the Power Wagon last summer but went with a Raptor and it really did come down to that. Also looked at the Rebel but - other than the nicer interior (with the 12 pkg to eliminate some of that red) the Raptor was the better choice. Nice trucks though. Can’t go wrong with either of them IMO.
understand the comparison, but these are not competing against each other. like a raptor vs fx4 f150. raptor/powerwagon are purpose built for offroad that can also do some towing/payload. tremor or 2500 equivalient are primarily 3/4 pickups with full towing and payload capacity, but with offroad package for mainly looks but offers a little bit of offroad benefit.
Power Wagon any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Just like the way Ram set the truck up even though it doesn't have the pay load capacity, you sometimes have to sacrifice to gain. Most people I know and see on the road and off road, don't use half their pay load or towing capacity anyhow. Power Wagon is a beast. It always has been for the past 75 years.
Great video sir. The only I wish you would have added is a top speed test , quarter mile race between the trucks and a roll race fro 40 to wide open throttle test.
I’ve got to say I was bothered to hear some of the errors in stats but you caught some (not all) nice review. I’m going to go power wagon on this one since I don’t need the towing ability as much as I want the off road prowess.
I do valet ,the fords just feels like a massive truck when driving long ass wheelbase and the front end feels like I’m about to hit everything and I drive a Vic . Gotten used to it for the most part. Rams are more comfortable and better interior but ford looks better exterior wise
ford tremor all day until you open the door and sit down and see the dollarama quality of the interior, dash and screen. the interior of the dodge is what sold me and in the end it comes down to who you want to impress.... other people when you drive by or yourself and in this case it is myself because i dont feel ripped off when i sit in the drivers seat and fiddle with my screen.
Power wagon needs bigger tires. If I wanted for more towing/hauling, I would get the Ford, but for just most driving and using everyday I think the Ram.
A solid review, but there are major points missed. The review would be even better if the off road capabilities are compared. Both vehicles are designed for off road conditions, so why not gear the review for it? Get them off the pavement and show what they can do. Talk more about gearing, suspension travel and articulation, etc., the meaty stuff! Thanks for the review!
GREAT REVIEW. kudos to you for your objectivity and attention to detail. F250 would've been a more precise compare, but other than weight, the diff between 250/350 stats is negligible. Good job, and keep 'em coming bruh!
Great video…but the Ford for the overall money and what 99% of buyers are going to use it for…towing, off-road capability and just plan bad ass…Tremor hands down
i picked up a 19 power wagon and absolutely love it. took the huge muffler off and put a delete pipe on it and i smile every time i start it up. it is a beast offroad, and puts my jeep to shame.
I like the vid but he was obviously siding more for the Ford, notice when the Ford had something the RAM did not he would mention it but burly did for the ram
I wasn’t siding with anyone and have no reason to. The Ram is the obvious one for off road and the Ford for truck duty. My apologies if it came off as me siding with one but thanks for watching!
U forgot about the Coolers / Bins in the floor of the rear cabin where U can put drinks, or Tools, anything…??? 🤷🏻♂️ Plus 4:10 gears …🤷🏻♂️👍 I own a 2022 Power Wagon, and I Love It and I don’t need a Towing Vehicle I have Leitner Racks with a Tepui Top Tent on the Racks and a Rhino Rack over the Cab, So I don’t need to tow a trailer.. Plus U Can get the Power Wagon package on other Trims of Ram Trucks ( Tradesman, Big Horn ) it’s just the suspension though.. And Like U said I put 35” Tires on it and it’s Perfect!!! Now I have a couple Buddy’s who put 37” Tires on one and they work but rub ( barely and once in a while ) but it can be done..🤷🏻♂️👍
Pretty sure you can get the power wagon in different trim levels. On tfl truck that had a tradesman (base model) with a power wagon package. Good way to get the off road goodies and save money
The Tremor package is nothing more than a budget 2” lift and 35” tires... It’s an overpriced appearance package. Nothing else separates it from a regular Super Duty. Still has the same stiff HD suspension, no front locker, no electric sway bar disconnect, ect.
@@jaysonsorensen594 The SD Tremor also has additional driving modes and a beefier "rear end" (at least compared to a 250 SD) and bigger tires - but still stuck with 18 inch wheels. Many argue that the elements that are useful for "off-roading" (like the drive modes) are worth the incremental price for them.
At 2:55 in this video, you mention that the Tremor only has limited slip on the front and falls behind the Ram as non locking. Then the very next shot shows the Ford wheel hub where you can clearly see the center dial that allows you to switch from auto to lock. I only mention this because I recently began reviewing these two vehicles and I understood this feature on the Ford was a means of switching between part time & full time four wheel drive, or from limited slip to locked. I'm still learning about these features so I realize that I may be missing something so I was hoping you could clarify what this means. Thanks.
except with an LSD you can drive at any speed with it on vs front lockers on Ram. Thats why they put LSD on it more user friendly no binding on highway
@@michaelbono2766 Power wagon only has one engine. Ya the disconnecting from sway bar is nice, but wait a little bit and the Tremor will eventually have one after market.
The. Tremor being a package added to the Superduty you said ventilated seats they are cooled not just vented and with the KR or Platinum or limited you get massaging seats also
If I didn’t need to tow anything and wanted a fully capable off-road vehicle I’d pick the PW. If I wanted to tow to off-road locations then I’d take the Tremor. Both are bad ass!
I like both, but really dislike the nose/grill on the Ram (interior more than makes up for it though). I'd buy whichever one has the lowest cost of ownership over a 5 year period. Not sure which one that is.
I know Ram is trying to go for better efficiency but my 2018 Power Wagon definitely has a better approach angle than both of these, and not going to lie, everyone needs to stop comparing the towing and payload of the Power Wagon, its not designed to tow, and never was, its designed for offroad use with the availability to tow if you have to
Is it a Raptor or basic F-150? Cuz I've seen guys around where I am tow with a Raptor and its embarrassing to see, yes they can tow but not efficiently
Super informative and outstanding video.. thank you and great job. I have a 2022 F-350 Tremor on order, will be here in a couple months! So nice that Ford offers a bit more capable off-road HD truck. The PW is a cool truck but I do a ton of hauling and towing so you simply can't beat the Ford on that. Just got home from 6k mile road trip towing a 29' travel trailer with my 99 F-250 7.3 PS (for sale btw). I love my F-250, it is a tough-ass truck, has 240k on it and still drives and pulls like new. But.. got passed by several 6.7's pulling 35'+ trailers like they were nothin. I can't wait for 475 hp, 1000+ lb's torque and the 10 speed trans. If I was buying a truck to go where a Jeep can go, I would buy the Power Wagon.. but for work you need the Ford. Thanks!
I really like the look of the Ford but why is the Tremor dashboard lights flashing while you are driving? That would be concerning to me before dropping over 50Gon the truck.
My truck is not the Tremor but I have the 250 lariat with the same interior and it doesn't flash like that. I believe it's from the filming process. You could see at a certain angle of filming it looked normal.
One thing to point out on your tow and payload specs: the Ferd you chose is a 1ton and the Ram is a 3/4 ton. Two completely different weight class vehicles and makes the comparison irrelevant. A proper compare would have been a F250 with Tremor pkg.
Yeah this is what they gave me, I didn’t have a choice. Regardless, the Ford 250 and 350 with this 7.3L and 4.3 rear end tow the exact same - payload drops for the 250 but it’s still quite bit more than the Ram
Thanks you! That's what I said and he didnt even mention it! Hes a Ford fan boy for sure because I know damn well if it were the opposite, he would of talked about the payload and towing difference for 5 mins.
It has nothing to do with what they gave you, I completely get that. The problem is you didnt mention the massive difference in capabilities because one is a 350 and the other Is a 2500. But you made sure when you mentioned the towing and payload ratings that you said it's a huge difference and game changer or whatever your exact words were.
GaRy - I'll tell you again...I said what grades the trucks were in the beginning and the end of the video..and probably in between. The F-250 w/tremor pkg tows the exact same 15k lbs as the F-350. Payload drops from 350 to 250 but it's still a lot more than the PW. The towing and payload were a very small part of this video. Also...again..I've NEVER owned a Ford but I HAVE owned a RAM..so forget about your fanboy bullsht
Folks, the F250 Tremor and the F350 Tremor have the same suspension, axle, drive train. There is no "true" 3/4 ton Ford Tremor to compare to the Power Wagon. As many have said - they are different vehicles. One excels off-road and is more comfortable to drive with moderate payloads and handles moderate towing very well. Some might say that the PW is like a 1/2 ton truck but with the sturdiness of a 3/4 ton (and thus it tows much better than ratings suggest). The Tremor is a 1 ton truck that does what 1 ton trucks do, rides harsh, and is not as useful offroad. Some people benefit from the 3/4 ton PW BECAUSE of its off-road suspension, and some people want a truck for heavy payload or heavy towing. Pick your poison.
*CORRECTION* The Tradesman trim can get the Power Wagon package - you don’t have to get the actual “Power Wagon” trim level to get the off road goodies.
Also, this Tremor DOES have the cab mounted bed camera. My bad!
Obviously this is a 1 Ton and a 3/4 Ton - they are what were provided, but keep in mind the towing for the F-250 w/Tremor pkg stays the same.
Thanks for watching!
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Locking front and rear on the RAM, and Sway bar release button. The tremor was made tow on the road and get stuck in the Mud.
The only differences between a F-250 and F-350 Tremor, the badges on the fenders and the payload stickers! EVERYTHING else is the same!
Finally a review channel that actually does a legit offroad test. Hats off to you.
Thank you! I wish I could have done more but I felt like I had to get something!
I fast forwarded the video to the driving part
i seen more that do that but okay
Just picked up a new power wagon I love it so far!
That’s awesome, enjoy!
@@PrimeAutotainment Needed a truck but also like the off-road features of my Rubicon jku. Definitely like the Rubicon driveline on steroids lol
I was thinking about selling my jku for a power wagon.. How are you liking it so far?
@@Heavy.hemi510 I freaking love it! Currently laying under it doing a flowmaster exhaust install 😂
@@Everything.On.Wheels519 Post a vid when you're finished pls! 😬
Great review/comparison thanks!
I love how you brought up the port injection on the V-8‘s as its a far superior design. I went PW for the off road features and softer suspension because I don’t need the towing. 10k lbs is plenty and I’d have NO PROBLEM pushing it all the way to 10k lbs. Most comfortable driving and luxurious vehicle I’ve ever owned. Keeping it forever
Why get a 7,000lb truck with awful mileage that only tows 10k lbs ? Genuinely curious I feel like people step up to trucks this big for hauling or towing. Otherwise why would you get a truck with 16mpg. There’s the Ranger, Tacoma and colorado which all have capable off road models. Or even Raptor leave any other truck in the dust off road. If you don’t care about towing seems like a waste
@@CoyoteFTW Im guessing youre a woman. Thats not meant to be a slight. If youre a man, and dont understand that guys like big trucks, then I dont know what to tell you.
I have a 15 power wagon by far the best vehicle I've ever owned. Its no diesel but its a damn good gas motor
I noticed that he felt that the ford was faster, I have personally raced a f350 with the new 7.3, in my 2019 ram 2500 and won. Ram leaves the line alot harder. But I did have the advantage of 4.10 rears vs. his 3.73
@Ron Wake i was thinking of adding a cold intake and a few other add ons
@Ron Wake i just have pipes and tips, no need for a muffler
Company I worked for had too many issues with the 6.4 Hemi, that being said, there's no way that I'd spend my own money on a Ram pickup with that engine.
I went with the Power Wagon. Shame that RAM keeps putting small 33" tires on it. Should be 35" from factory upgrade-able to 37".
37s overkill and you sacrifice more than you gain. 35s is the sweet spot.
Got 35s on mine and that is perfect
Didn’t the power wagon used to come with 35 inch if I remember correctly.
@@navyvet3660 I believe they always came with 285-70-17
Why did you decide to buy an Italian truck with French design cues?
Just ordered my 2022 F-250 Lariat Tremor 2 days ago. I cannot wait.
Smart choice. Assembled in USA with USA labor.
I'll take the Ford. Both are nice trucks, Ram would be a close 2nd.
Honestly Ford and Ram are my favorite trucks on the planet
I'd take the ram being a GM guy I know about locking diffs
@@samduran5180 the tremor has a locking rear diff and a limited slip front.
Agreed, from my experience and especially those I know that use/abuse their trucks, it's Ford it all the way. The TRX has upped the game in that genre so I'll give Dodge credit in that department. But of course you know Ford's not going to let that slide and I'm sure the next generation will just go back to advantage Raptor. But of these two that Tremor is absolutely badass!
I have the F350 tremor diesel. Had the power wagon prior. Ford is superior in 90 percent of any off road application and can get all your gear such as a tow BeHIND RV and atvs, side by side’s without screaming the gas engines. I have begged ram for 20 years to put a diesel in the power wagon. AEV builds a nice diesel similar to the power wagon. The Ford diesel tremor is a BAD ASS machine.
Should have gotten the 7.3 if you actually care about offroad performance, the diesel is too heavy for effective off road use.
I have the Power Wagon. I had the Ford. The Ford was good but the Power Wagon is great-for what I actually use the truck for. There is just no contest off road. For the things I tow, the Ram works for me, and I have towed over 12,000 lbs several times (Sand, Sod,Rock). I do recommend putting 35's or 37's on the Ram. One final observation. I think the Ram is more comfortable driving long distances than the Ford. But they are both well made trucks and I believe you would be happy with either one on or off road.
I’d take the Ford, but the Ram is a nice truck too. I’ve owned a couple Ford and Dodge trucks and the Fords seem to hold up better and have less issues. That’s just my personal experience though. Both beautiful trucks!
ram is king
I wish you would've made a bigger deal about the pw having front and rear lockers and disconnecting sway bar like you did with its payload and tow cap.
Doubt warranty covers abuse on power wagon, buy a cheap truck to tear up
I'd still take the Ford, but i'm biased. HAHA! Both dope trucks!
Both are meannn looking trucks. Fords interior loses me until they update. I have a 19 PW and i look forward to driving everytime i gotta go anywhere. Such a beast and beautiful truck. Tremor especially in black is super dope tho too
Pfft, says you. I don't want my truck looking like the next trendy refrigerator door or whatever it is they're doing with that goofy iPad wannabe. Especially since they can't get the software to work right, lol.
Dang, 21,000 lbs. Gitr done!!!
Ford needs to step up its game on the interior! It still looks dated!
I saw a video a few weeks ago showing Ford was finally working on their interior. Ford owners will have something that is nicer inside...so they're much more comfy while waiting on a tow truck🤣
@@blindsey8234 Sure, on the redesign. This interior is based on 5 year truck design, still better than the new Chevy interiors. To the point Chevy is doing an emergency interior update on their all-new Silverados.
At least the front of my truck isn't uncolored fisher price plastic
@@Blue_Flame_Raptor yeah just the entire interior
@ its not that bad, most of the materials have a soft touch to them.
The difference in interior finish is stark. Ram put a lot more effort with this and it shows. Granted, not a big deal to some but if I’m sitting in there I’ll take the Ram.
Both are great trucks. For my needs, I'd take the Tremor with the 7.3L gas all day, every day - Jack of all trades.
Love them both and the ‘22s have improvements for each. I’m gonna tow in the future so I’d opt for the Ford with the power stroke. It’s a shame that the Ram PW won’t be getting a Cummins. That would have factored in my decision. Good video. 👍
best review i've seen on these trucks!
Thank you!
I have the ford super duty and it does more than I need! Both are great trucks I just love the power of the ford
If the ram came with 35's it would hands down be the better off-roader but luckily that is an easy fix so ram would be my choice. The lack of towing is a bit of a downer but luckily for me I don't really tow over 10k so it works!
Even with 33s it's the better off-roader no question. 35s would make the Ram SIGNIFICANTLY better.
You can get the powerwagon package on the tradesman trim level. FYI
To be fair a tradesman with the pw package is far from a true power wagon.
@kevin "prelim phenom" lee not really , miss out on comestic on the outside. Alot of cosmetic though. Plus the interior looks like its from 2002 compared to the actual power wagon high end speaker systems, display 12 or 8in and much much more. Plus the tradesman w/ PW package is around what ? 52- 55k MSRP? The real PW all done up your around 65k MSRP . For another 10k your getting a way way more badass truck. Thats just my take on it.
I have a badass Tradesman PW, and it’s used as a truck is designed to be used. I hunt, fish, overland, haul wood and tow a off road camping trailer all over Alaska. I don’t see the added benefit of all the extra tech, leather, sunroof, etc when looking at the true uses a PW was designed for (just my opinion, to each his own my friends). If you look at the history of the PW, the Tradesman is actually much closer to the original intent than the Laramie. Both are just as capable, just the interior and cosmetics are different, which gives you choices. I upgraded my audio system, all lighting, brakes, 35 in Toyo AT 3’s, sliders, Line X pro in the bed/bumpers/ lower body panels , cold air intake, exhaust, and made some performance mods with the money I saved, so for me, it was the right way to go. Either way, the PW holds it’s own against anything else on the market when it comes to capability, it is the best rig going IMO. Happy motoring, get out there and get after it!😎👍
@@RichL57 Dumb statement. It's the EXACT same truck without the Power Wagon stripe.
Ford: workhorse
Ram: playhorse
Good analogy
I'm not going out tearing up a $60,000 truck on rocks, stupid, buy a cheap off road truck to break, doubt warranty covers abuse
And then their was the Ram TRX
Ford: American. Ram: Italian and French.
Good vid.
I've never had anyone geek out over my vehicle as I've had over my 21, 75thA power wagon.
Not a chick magnet, but definitely gets respect everywhere guys exist.
The power Wagon is the Grandfather to all full size 4x4 trucks. Early Ford and G.M's used New Process gear for their transfer cases and transmissions. Chrysler owned New Process and New Venture Gear. New Venture a joint with G.M. Muncie plant.
Proud owner of a f250 tremor king truck !!!!!!
how is it after a few months of ownership? any issues?
Very informative, nice shots and editing, good content overall ... last little bit is not looking like you just rolled out of bed. You're one key lanyard and hoody away from the college kid sleepwalking to his first morning class.
9:12 whatt?!?! the stock mirrors on the 2500 and 3500 can be flipped up to extend and be oriented vertically to be towing mirrors.
Fantastic review, unbiased, factual, spot on opinions based on the trucks options and abilities and not only your own opinion. I must say TFL like, excellent camera work as well. Thank you, your review helped me greatly. PS currently own a 2017 Ford F-250 diesel, strongly considering the power wagon as my needs no longer require the massive towing ability...do love my Ford though, it will be tough to see her go
Thank you very much! That’s awesome...hard to move to a different truck but I’m sure you’ll be happy with the PW. Be sure to take it overnight or for an extended drive if possible to get a food feel 👍
Man i love this review!
I really appreciate the time stamps! It Makes things easier and clear
Glad to hear it!
Both nice looking trucks but the Tremor is my thing.
Ford! No front locker. No winch. No swaybar disconnect. No 4low crawl. But hey lets compare it to a truck that has all that useful stuff 🥳🤯
The mirrors on a Ram tip Up and out for towing. And my personal opinion since I have owned both is the Ram mirrors are better. I like a taller mirror for towing.
Great review! 👍 I’ll take take the Mopar! The Ford is nice too.
Thank you!
Prime Autotainment 👍
Lmao
So true though
Just a friendly reminder: If you drive vehicles off road, please get in the habit of keeping your thumbs OUT of the inner steering wheel area...Many have broken thumbs and/or wrists from sliding off a rock or other items and the steering wheel suddenly (and often violently) jerking well to one side or the other...Stay safe brother!
Dang that sounds terrible! Thanks for looking out for me! I need to pay more attention to where my hands are lol
Standard practice for anyone that's ever driven a narrow front end farm 🚜.
I have a 2007 F-350 SRW 6.0 powerstroke
Detroit truetrac in front
Detroit locker in rear
4:10 gears.
A front locker is not much better unless you get in crazy rock territory.
I've been through mud, sand, mild rocks, ruts, ditches....and always both front wheels pulling. The front truetrac is a beast and as close to a locker you can get!
Only issue is on ice in Minnesota, it has a tendency to plow forward even during turning around corners
Small thing to most - but a determining factor for me - is the lack of the 40/console/40 front seat in the Ram. I seriously considered the Power Wagon last summer but went with a Raptor and it really did come down to that. Also looked at the Rebel but - other than the nicer interior (with the 12 pkg to eliminate some of that red) the Raptor was the better choice. Nice trucks though. Can’t go wrong with either of them IMO.
you can get that if you go the PowerTradesman route
understand the comparison, but these are not competing against each other. like a raptor vs fx4 f150. raptor/powerwagon are purpose built for offroad that can also do some towing/payload. tremor or 2500 equivalient are primarily 3/4 pickups with full towing and payload capacity, but with offroad package for mainly looks but offers a little bit of offroad benefit.
LOOKS Like someone has been having some FUN! Awesome Nolan. Get Dirty! Great Information.
Definitely fun. Thank ya sir! 😁👍
Power Wagon any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Just like the way Ram set the truck up even though it doesn't have the pay load capacity, you sometimes have to sacrifice to gain. Most people I know and see on the road and off road, don't use half their pay load or towing capacity anyhow. Power Wagon is a beast. It always has been for the past 75 years.
75 years ago they were an American owned company. Can’t say that today. Although fiat is killing it. I’m not buying it. Or gm for that matter.
Great video sir. The only I wish you would have added is a top speed test , quarter mile race between the trucks and a roll race fro 40 to wide open throttle test.
I’ve got to say I was bothered to hear some of the errors in stats but you caught some (not all) nice review. I’m going to go power wagon on this one since I don’t need the towing ability as much as I want the off road prowess.
i've always liked the power wagon but for the things i haul, tow, camping, hunting etc, it's tremor f-250 7.3 for me....
Put 35's on the ram instead of the 33's and there is the better approach angle
Good review! I hope Ford offers the work desk station on the super duty in 2023
Ram box, enough said, with the plugin. Payload is small. Because it's meant for offroad.
I like them both. I bet it seems like you're driving an 18 wheeler. Great review!!
No kidding, big trucks...especially that Ford. Thank ya sir!!
I do valet ,the fords just feels like a massive truck when driving long ass wheelbase and the front end feels like I’m about to hit everything and I drive a Vic . Gotten used to it for the most part. Rams are more comfortable and better interior but ford looks better exterior wise
Awesome review as always....they look really big!! And just an FYI...love the shorts🥰
Thank you Julie!
ford tremor all day until you open the door and sit down and see the dollarama quality of the interior, dash and screen. the interior of the dodge is what sold me and in the end it comes down to who you want to impress.... other people when you drive by or yourself and in this case it is myself because i dont feel ripped off when i sit in the drivers seat and fiddle with my screen.
Awesome video both trucks are great can’t go wrong with either truck
Christopher Brown thank you! For sure!
Power wagon needs bigger tires. If I wanted for more towing/hauling, I would get the Ford, but for just most driving and using everyday I think the Ram.
The power wagon hase flip up mirrors for the extended view
Comparing apples to oranges... One tows, other off-roads!
At last! there side by side Thank you for this vid lol
I put air bags under my 2021 power wagon to increase payload. No more squatting when pulling my big living quarters horse trailer
The Ford is a Superduty that they put some offroad stuff on. The Ram is purpose built for offroad. Totally different vehicles.
The ram mirrors don’t extend but they do flip up
A solid review, but there are major points missed. The review would be even better if the off road capabilities are compared. Both vehicles are designed for off road conditions, so why not gear the review for it? Get them off the pavement and show what they can do. Talk more about gearing, suspension travel and articulation, etc., the meaty stuff! Thanks for the review!
thank you for a great video and being neutral is refreshing no bias in the video...
keep up the great work cheers
Thank you very much!
GREAT REVIEW. kudos to you for your objectivity and attention to detail. F250 would've been a more precise compare, but other than weight, the diff between 250/350 stats is negligible. Good job, and keep 'em coming bruh!
Great video…but the Ford for the overall money and what 99% of buyers are going to use it for…towing, off-road capability and just plan bad ass…Tremor hands down
Love the winch!
i picked up a 19 power wagon and absolutely love it. took the huge muffler off and put a delete pipe on it and i smile every time i start it up. it is a beast offroad, and puts my jeep to shame.
I like the vid but he was obviously siding more for the Ford, notice when the Ford had something the RAM did not he would mention it but burly did for the ram
I wasn’t siding with anyone and have no reason to. The Ram is the obvious one for off road and the Ford for truck duty. My apologies if it came off as me siding with one but thanks for watching!
Love the review ... Man this really sells what you are going for
U forgot about the Coolers / Bins in the floor of the rear cabin where U can put drinks, or Tools, anything…??? 🤷🏻♂️ Plus 4:10 gears …🤷🏻♂️👍 I own a 2022 Power Wagon, and I Love It and I don’t need a Towing Vehicle I have Leitner Racks with a Tepui Top Tent on the Racks and a Rhino Rack over the Cab, So I don’t need to tow a trailer.. Plus U Can get the Power Wagon package on other Trims of Ram Trucks ( Tradesman, Big Horn ) it’s just the suspension though.. And Like U said I put 35” Tires on it and it’s Perfect!!! Now I have a couple Buddy’s who put 37” Tires on one and they work but rub ( barely and once in a while ) but it can be done..🤷🏻♂️👍
Ram . THERE IS NOTHING BETTER . MY OPINION ... Nice video . Thanks a lot bro
Pretty sure you can get the power wagon in different trim levels. On tfl truck that had a tradesman (base model) with a power wagon package. Good way to get the off road goodies and save money
Yep that’s my bad, sorry about that!
Very good video thanks it was very helpful
The Tremor package is nothing more than a budget 2” lift and 35” tires... It’s an overpriced appearance package. Nothing else separates it from a regular Super Duty. Still has the same stiff HD suspension, no front locker, no electric sway bar disconnect, ect.
So the shocks are the same? It doesn't add any driving modes? It just appearance? Thank you for this informative nonsense your spewing
@@jaysonsorensen594 The SD Tremor also has additional driving modes and a beefier "rear end" (at least compared to a 250 SD) and bigger tires - but still stuck with 18 inch wheels. Many argue that the elements that are useful for "off-roading" (like the drive modes) are worth the incremental price for them.
@@jimrice4699 I know that why I called what he saying nonsense
At 2:55 in this video, you mention that the Tremor only has limited slip on the front and falls behind the Ram as non locking. Then the very next shot shows the Ford wheel hub where you can clearly see the center dial that allows you to switch from auto to lock. I only mention this because I recently began reviewing these two vehicles and I understood this feature on the Ford was a means of switching between part time & full time four wheel drive, or from limited slip to locked. I'm still learning about these features so I realize that I may be missing something so I was hoping you could clarify what this means. Thanks.
except with an LSD you can drive at any speed with it on vs front lockers on Ram. Thats why they put LSD on it more user friendly no binding on highway
Great review thanks!
Kidding, I like Ford too!
The ford is vastly superior in terms of exterior appearance imo but the interior of the ram is very nice.
Things like that , just like even before seeing it. it takes lots of prework to shoot this quality video
I appreciate that!
Stellantis power wagon baby!
OP: I am not here to convince you which one is better.
ME: Tremor...
avenger007007 power wagon
@@michaelbono2766 Power wagon only has one engine. Ya the disconnecting from sway bar is nice, but wait a little bit and the Tremor will eventually have one after market.
@@avenger007007 I thought cars and trucks were suppose to have one engine
The. Tremor being a package added to the Superduty you said ventilated seats they are cooled not just vented and with the KR or Platinum or limited you get massaging seats also
Both are impressive but I gotta lean toward Ram for comfort. I’m 6’1” @ 215 and my knee hates being limited & rubbing on a center console
Im 6' 2" and 210 lbs, doesn't seem to be an issue in my super duty with center console. Either truck looks nice and it's all a matter of preference. 🤙
What truck is a 6'1" person hitting their knees on anything? Did you mean 7'1"??
I’m 6’4 200 and I do valet ford trucks are not an issue unless I get a 5’2 girl driving it , just the front end seems massive and I drive a Vic
If I didn’t need to tow anything and wanted a fully capable off-road vehicle I’d pick the PW. If I wanted to tow to off-road locations then I’d take the Tremor. Both are bad ass!
I’d get the tremor f-350 platinum diesel
I like both, but really dislike the nose/grill on the Ram (interior more than makes up for it though). I'd buy whichever one has the lowest cost of ownership over a 5 year period. Not sure which one that is.
Nice tremor king ranch you got there
rwisdomjr89 lol I had to use the backseat clip from an old king ranch video
I know Ram is trying to go for better efficiency but my 2018 Power Wagon definitely has a better approach angle than both of these, and not going to lie, everyone needs to stop comparing the towing and payload of the Power Wagon, its not designed to tow, and never was, its designed for offroad use with the availability to tow if you have to
Neither was my 6 cylinder F150, but it _still_ beats it by almost 3000 lb, lol
Is it a Raptor or basic F-150? Cuz I've seen guys around where I am tow with a Raptor and its embarrassing to see, yes they can tow but not efficiently
Power Wagon for me 🔥
The Ram has an Italian and French flair with the Stellantis package.
I just want to go on record ford may have a towing light... but the power wagon i looked at had a towing camera
well detailed video great job
Ram Mirrors flip up to tow mode (manual flip up)
Not looking for a fight here but Powerwagon what's the point? With the towing and payload numbers why not just get a 1/2 ton?
Super informative and outstanding video.. thank you and great job. I have a 2022 F-350 Tremor on order, will be here in a couple months!
So nice that Ford offers a bit more capable off-road HD truck. The PW is a cool truck but I do a ton of hauling and towing so you simply can't beat the Ford on that. Just got home from 6k mile road trip towing a 29' travel trailer with my 99 F-250 7.3 PS (for sale btw). I love my F-250, it is a tough-ass truck, has 240k on it and still drives and pulls like new. But.. got passed by several 6.7's pulling 35'+ trailers like they were nothin. I can't wait for 475 hp, 1000+ lb's torque and the 10 speed trans.
If I was buying a truck to go where a Jeep can go, I would buy the Power Wagon.. but for work you need the Ford. Thanks!
Which ones gonna be on the road at 200k miles? Which ones gonna "Not" gonna cost as much as the truck initially cost in repairs at 200k miles?
I really like the look of the Ford but why is the Tremor dashboard lights flashing while you are driving? That would be concerning to me before dropping over 50Gon the truck.
My truck is not the Tremor but I have the 250 lariat with the same interior and it doesn't flash like that. I believe it's from the filming process. You could see at a certain angle of filming it looked normal.
One thing to point out on your tow and payload specs: the Ferd you chose is a 1ton and the Ram is a 3/4 ton. Two completely different weight class vehicles and makes the comparison irrelevant. A proper compare would have been a F250 with Tremor pkg.
Yeah this is what they gave me, I didn’t have a choice. Regardless, the Ford 250 and 350 with this 7.3L and 4.3 rear end tow the exact same - payload drops for the 250 but it’s still quite bit more than the Ram
Thanks you! That's what I said and he didnt even mention it! Hes a Ford fan boy for sure because I know damn well if it were the opposite, he would of talked about the payload and towing difference for 5 mins.
It has nothing to do with what they gave you, I completely get that. The problem is you didnt mention the massive difference in capabilities because one is a 350 and the other Is a 2500. But you made sure when you mentioned the towing and payload ratings that you said it's a huge difference and game changer or whatever your exact words were.
GaRy - I'll tell you again...I said what grades the trucks were in the beginning and the end of the video..and probably in between. The F-250 w/tremor pkg tows the exact same 15k lbs as the F-350. Payload drops from 350 to 250 but it's still a lot more than the PW. The towing and payload were a very small part of this video. Also...again..I've NEVER owned a Ford but I HAVE owned a RAM..so forget about your fanboy bullsht
Folks, the F250 Tremor and the F350 Tremor have the same suspension, axle, drive train. There is no "true" 3/4 ton Ford Tremor to compare to the Power Wagon.
As many have said - they are different vehicles. One excels off-road and is more comfortable to drive with moderate payloads and handles moderate towing very well. Some might say that the PW is like a 1/2 ton truck but with the sturdiness of a 3/4 ton (and thus it tows much better than ratings suggest). The Tremor is a 1 ton truck that does what 1 ton trucks do, rides harsh, and is not as useful offroad. Some people benefit from the 3/4 ton PW BECAUSE of its off-road suspension, and some people want a truck for heavy payload or heavy towing. Pick your poison.
Wish u compared the Trucks with same options. And ur comparing a 7.3 liter Vs 6.4 not really fair. Should’ve used fords 6.2 FX4 off road package
The Tremor belongs on the road as you said. LOL🤭 100% true.
I tow/haul more then I off road but like aggressive look… going with Ford on this one as 1/2 ton truck are pulling more then Power-wagon..
What’s up with the dash lights flashing on the tremor. That would probably get annoying.