Comparison Test: Ford Mustang GT vs Dodge Challenger Scat Pack | MotorTrend
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- In this Comparison Test, Jonny Lieberman brings two all-American muscle cars to the Willow Springs Raceway to put put them to the test. It's a tough decision for him, but let's see if the Ford Mustang GT or the Dodge Challenger Scat Pack comes out on top. Get the full story HERE ➡️bit.ly/3QeGAYv
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“How biased and opinionated do you want this review to be?”
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I feel like he's being fair, considering the Challenger and Camaro are going away, Mustang didn't try all that hard.
Found the sucker who paid for a '24 Mustang.
That type of review when one company didn’t pay enough for a review🤣
Dodge paid him so they could get their final sales before everything sounds like an ecoboost raptor and a hoover vac. 🤣🤣
Clearly😂 the dodge interior looks like it’s from 2006 and there’s a super cheesy “shakedown” sticker on the back lol
Agree with you 110%
Dodge did do a lot of stuff with Roadkill.
Bro the new mustangs don’t even make over 400whp. Based off of REAL DYNOS they make less than the S550. So that is a step in the wrong direction in my opinion. I do however disagree with his opinion of the overall design of the exterior. I like it it’s a lover hate thing I think right now in the automotive enthusiast community.
What a horrible review he trashes the mustang through the whole video then at the end says it's a better car. I know it's the better I own a 2024 GT.
This guy must own a trash dodge to love that ugly boat.
Same and agree. Horrible review
Or it could be that its trash, just slightly better than the challenger
Everyone isn’t gonna love the mustang..it’s his opinion
@@joshuaknuckles4594 well then don't review it of you don't give both positive And negative thoughts
Tell me you’re a Mopar fan without telling me you’re a Mopar fan. Lol what a neat Challenger review! 😐
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎙🔥
Ya except he said the Mustang is the better car so…….
Did Ford hurt this guy 😂
I own a 2016 Mustang GT with the Roush Phase 2 727HP supercharger with only 8K miles on it, but will all but break my neck to look at just about any Challenger I see. They are just badass looking cars!
Now, I understand why MotorTrend has lost tons of viewership. 🤦🏾♂️
Why did you even go to the track if the whole comparison is just "your" opinions?
Maybe because driving them on a track back to back helps him form that opinion?
@JP1348 bro.. his opinion was super biased.. he said the challenger interior was old cheap fake.. and he loved it.. vs the high tech mustang interior lol
@@JP1348point taken...but why no numbers and you're on a track?
He may not like it, I love it
Motortrend doing the best they can to “sabotage” the Mustang🤣🤣
Or it’s just not as good as the last one
Haha foreal!
@@junitoss83It's better. Looks great, drives great.
I don't think he likes the Mustang. Just a wild guess though! 😆
This isnt a review at all lmao just you being biased on what YOU like not really comparing or anything
Cause the new mustang is dumpster fire. Why do you think they didn't include the camaro in this? Because it destroyed it around a track
I disagree about how the mustang looks. I think its stunningly beautiful
+1
I think this guy forgets that the reason they ditched the solid rear axle was to sell the mustang internationally, and it was the #1 selling car worldwide.
The new mustang looks amazing. I’m surprised they didn’t use the DarkHorse package, or the upgraded GT package for this comparison.
I own a 2024 gt I get stopped every where I go because people love the car and want me to show it to them.
Sounds like dude don't like Ford's lol
It's sounds like this dude doesn't like Fords.
There, I fixed it for you.
@youtubesucks2001 it's RUclips, not an essay. Nobody like people like you, just saying.
Gah dang! How much did Dodge pay you!? All I gotta say is those 392 guys sure get mad when they get beat in a straight line by a turbo 4 cylinder 😂😂
A honda and laptop is still king on these streets😂
Not mine, those shitbox throw away cars get toasted every time here. Even if the Challenger loses the race, which isn't often, we love our cars better 😜
If your 4cyl mustang outruns a challenger it's either you're mustang is modded alot or driver error for the challenger.....or maybe he wasn't even racing you at all.
@HioSSilver1999 Mustang... you mean stock Focus RS... and I know he was racing because I heard it revving all the out. I highly doubt it was driver error. I mean it's not hard to stomp on the gas pedal and let the transmission do all the work. Also, I would say no one ever goes 60 to 70% in race. Always go 100% because you never know what the other person has done to their car.
@@RangerJ441 a well driven stock focus isn't out running a well driven 392 car....you may have raced a 5.7 car.
Johnny's doing a lot of hating on things most reviewers like about the Mustang lol. The strangest review i have seen in some time
real bro the guy just had some bad history with Mustang because I've never seen someone make a review about a car like
The front looks VASTLY better than the 2018 refresh that eventually become the look for most 6gen Mustangs. The original 2015 was PERFECT. A perfect design, but they made the lights all squinty/small and too low for the hood and fenders. It just looks unbalanced vs the 2015. But the 2024 fixes that, brings it closer to the 2015 but with badass futuristic edge. I'd still get a 6gen Camaro SS over the 2024 for the performance alone (and I love the looks for the 2016. I'd get a ZL1 bumper if I bought a refresh 2019+) but the 2024 Mustang GT looks amazing upfront. The rear slanted taillights are... odd... but look better in person. Not a home run like 2015, but close, and WAY better than the 2018 refresh.
The original 2015 front looks like a ford fusion and so does this 2024 one 🤣 what a joke
2018-23 absolute best looking of the s550s
I'm a dodge guy but I think the new mustang looks great. It seems a lot of Ford guys disagree with me based off the r/mustang subreddit lol 😅
New Mustang looks HIDEOUS. No. Seriously, worst design of any Mustang ever made.
Has to grow on people still but I believe it looks better than the 18-22 except they could’ve done better on the front grill and rear trunk deck lid other wise they went the right way
I have always loved mustangs and this one is no different. I’m excited to see the changes for 2025
@@bavarianmoparworks8668 I’m sure there were plenty who didn’t like the S550 design as well then miraculously when more aftermarket options became available the narrative changed. When the ECU is cracked on the new mustang trust me that narrative will change give it a few years.
@@ryantaylor3828 My comment had nothing to do with power or drive train. Simply aesthetics. I've seen one in person & it's just got some ungodly boxy lines. JMO.
I'm glad y'all pointed out the awful looks on the Stang, I've been saying that ever since the refresh. But how can you say it's the winner after talking so much smack?
The new mustang is gorgeous.
Team Mustang 😁👍 Save the Manuals
And I watch this channel why? That comparison test was no comparison test! Sad
With the exception of knocking the Stangs styling, I'm having difficulty disagreeing with this gentleman's opinion.
Excellent comparison review.
I'll take one of each.
Just look at this dude. He’s clearly caught a lot of flack for his looks in his life… now it’s his turn
I own a scat charger, but that mustang is clean. In my opinion it’s the best looking mustang ever. I’ve sat in one, but theirs not enough leg room. The mustang looks better, but the challenger has way more space.
This review was sponsored by "stallantis" 😂
Biased towards the Mustang, but the Challenger design hasn't changed since they made that chassis back in '06.
The Mustang look great, that Challenger though, the same for the past 17 years.
Man you really dont like mustangs do you 😂
That mustang will walk that challenger on any track, straight line, road course or oval. But he acts as if that boat will out run the mustang in a straight line lol
Challenger hasn't changed in design because its timeless. The mustang and Camaro has changed so much they are so far removed from the classic. IMO they do not capture the classic muscle car look and feel. I feel so bad that the Challenger is ending production. Get them while you still can!
That's because they're pony cars, not muscle cars.
People no longer care about Mopar products.
Especially Challengers and Chargers. Even Trackhawk's and Hellcat Durango's to a lesser extent.
The problem being that nobody wants to forfeit their life or hard earned money just to have your car stolen, carjacked or worse. Until Stellantis changes something, these criminals will *_never_* stop.
Buy, own and drive a Mopar at your own risk.
Personally, I don't think it's worth it in the slightest. You're no better off with this new Mustang either. Fact of the matter, it is no longer a drivers car but rather a gamers car. Not to mention it looks hideous in my humble opinion.
Your best option (again IMHO): Buy a Corvette or a Camaro if you want to stay domestic. Corvette if you can afford it or a Camaro if you still crave a manual transmission with a V8.
May I suggest Porsche if you yearn for something stout and German. Or perhaps Alfa Romeo for that Italian zest because we all know you wish it was a Ferrari and truth be told, it is the closest you will get to that coveted _Cavallino Rampante_ (Prancing Horse).
Alas, the days of American Muscle are rapidly coming to a close. Such a shame too. It is unlikely we will ever see this glorious era of automotive delights again.
That campfire we once gathered around for solace and comradery is now being replaced with an electrical fire for the foreseeable future.
Stay classy my friends.
Dodge missed the opportunity to make a good track car by not putting it on a major diet. Redesign it and chop 750lbs from it with no other changes and call it a TA.
Completely agree 👌
That chasis isn't gonna make a good track car unless you completely redesign it completely. No missed opportunities there tbh.
Is it me or did he talk down about the mustang and yet at the end he says he likes the Ford better😳 🤔🤷🏽♂️
I would go with the Challenger becuse the rear seats are actually usable.
I use the rear seats for extra storage. For it's intended use, i had my nephew back there once.
Handling shouldn’t deeply suffer just because you want to take your kids along. And besides, there’s the Charger sedan if you want a muscle car for the family.
Facts
Dude sounds like your typical Dodge ballwashers from Instagram 😂😂😂
I appreciate Jonny Lieberman's honest review. He was spot on when he said from the roof pillar back a complete copy of the Gen 6 Camaro. Overall a nice looking car with an exhaust note tuned to perfection.
A complete copy? Are you high?
I dont think anyone would believe you could design a better looking car, and this one is even better looking than the last. My opinion.
Re: Mustang styling. You have your opinion I have mine and I don’t agree with you. I think the Mustang looks great. Just because it’s your show doesn’t make you correct. It’s obvious you’re a Challenger fan. AKA biased reporting.
My 2024 Mustang GT premium performance / night pony package is built just like that with automatic transmission active exhaust. My second one coming December 11th 2023 is going to be a copy of that but with the upgraded suspension from Ford
It's pretty hard to be straight up when you are a fan have a certain brand add goals for all of us
Volvo makes beautiful cars and the Camaro is handsome… so, I guess I don’t mind the styling.
I think Ford might have cancelled his allocation for a new GT 💀
Can’t wait for the mustang GTD 800hp and absolutely street legal!
We're always waiting for the "good" one
@@jamesrobinson9176 That’s not a “good” one. That’s the best one.
It's nothing unless you want to spend 300k on a mustang.....pretty dumb really
@@HioSSilver1999yes I’d buy a c8 zora for that price
@@HioSSilver1999 Whats great is that you get to do you and everyone else gets to do what they want.
“Comparison” ? Why not call it Head2Head? “comparison” sounds like Tide vs Oxi Clean. Sucks
Challenger sucks on the track and sucks on the street since it can’t put the power down unless on a prepped surface. Hard pass.
I've had 3 chargers . I still wabt a challenger later in life if im blessed enough to. But definitely a mustang is next on my list . Gonna starr saving next month for it
The 392/8speed combo was and is a monster... but it is definitely outdated. The LS and coyote have been improved several times, while Dodge is still in 2011.
2015*
Today we learned nothing about the cars, but that the presenter really loves Challengers. Never seen a worse professionally made car comparison video.
Came from a BMW 340xi to a Challenger Scatpack manual. Test drove the Mustang GT too because love the newer styling and manual option (this from a guy who never loved Mustangs). Both cars are great in their own way, but wanted a little bit more of a backseat and liked the raw/stupid feeling of the Challenger in the end. Overall, liked both and really like what Ford has done with the latest design
Am a Ford fan but when it comes to muscle cars i believe the Dodge challenger is the pinacle American muscle look.
I’m not in the market, but if I were, I’d get the Mustang for sure. $60+K just seems like a lot of money for a Fiat.
Is this really a fair comparison? One is a muscle car while the other is a high performance modern sports car. One is born from late 1960s tech while the other is the latest in race performance.
That challenger has an old school cross plane, single cam, push rod V8 while the ford is a high revving flat plane ( I stand corrected, not flat plane) dual overhead cam and dual throttle body V8.
The Ford engine isn’t a flat plane, though.
So true about the Mustang when they first started coming out they look good but now it looks more like a Camaro Whereas now it does not look or take you back to the day at least the challenger still does❤
Well since dodge released the six speed it is a no-brainer
@@srtv8or109EPA rating is killing them. The srt8 from the 2000s were getting 19mpg hwy with the six speed manual.
Boy, they really screwed up the looks of the Mustang. That front end is awful. The dash is awful.
Great review! Honestly, both cars are great in their own ways. Never Listen to the clueless trash talkers. Absolutely love the 392, killer looks and performance 💪
Except the mustang still beats it in a straight line...
Lol.. don't be a challenger fan boy.. 392 is slower than even the JDM v6 cars cause they don't have the technology to make the car lighter, aerodynamic and put the power to the ground efficiently. And the engines are also powerful but slow in rev... dodge are the worst cars in the market.. they are just marketing the high horsepower.. but slower than most of the cars even in straight lines..
@@jobothehobotv Not even close, and not in my experience. I've toasted many Mustangs, and at the Dragstrip here, 392s dominate. No hate on the GT Stangs, I used to own one of them too.
@@tharinduperera8758 Absolutely wrong troll, 392 Challengers are awesome on the street and the Dragstrip. They were not designed to be lightweight Autocross cars, they are drag racers. Save the comments for someone else who cares about your inaccurate opinions.
congrats you raced ecoboosts@@Basslightning666
Good review ... thanks👍
Give me a job driving these things please
Thank you for calling out the design issues!!!! So many other reviewers must just be afraid to offend Ford and tell the truth.
Everything about the mustang is better, take the scat pack and go around a track or drag. The mustang will will be 4 cars or over half a lap.
As an owner of a 2014 GT500, 2016 GT350 and now a 2023 Challenger Hellcat - All three are totally different cars / experience. The challenger is like driving an 800HP Lincoln Town Car. It’s an old design but perfect in so many ways. Plus people go insane when they see / hear a Hellcat, my Shelby’s not so much.
A Mustang with the interiors of a generic sedan.. 😐
Ford: Our customers said if we add a cheap animation of a Fox Body Mustang cluster, they will be happy with the neutered interiors..
Finally not an EV in sight
I love the design of both of these cars. If I wanted a throwback muscle car with modern features I'd pick the Challenger all day. If I wanted the superior vehicle period...Mustang.
The new Stang is absolutley terrible looking. Hard to beat last gen's slick look, let alone a challenger.
Trust me bud It’ll grow on you. Everyone shared the same sentiment about 2016 as well.. with that said I’m happy they are not afraid to try “change” instead of making em look the same every year
I like the styling of the last gen 'Stang better. I'm sure it performs great but aesthetics are important also...
Me too! I have a 2014 v6 Mustang that I love!❤️🐎🚘
I have been a Mustang fan in the past until 2015. And this new design is just plain ugly. The Challenger is so much better looking- it's a muscle car.
Never let this man cook again
Dude gave a one sided review trashing the mustang but then you said it was a better car .. dude find another job !!
Who pays the most is what Motor Trend is most worried about these days. A far cry from the '80s, '90s, and early 2000s when I used to buy them. No more.
Actually, I think it’s a pretty honest review. The Challengers are an unapologetic muscle car , and to me, the new Mustang doesn’t look near as good as the previous models, inside and out.
Right. But a review is about more than the looks.
I love challenger and own two and 2024 mustang looks dope no question !!
fails to mention a scatpack widebody is about 10k more expensive on average than a mustang gt
The 2015 to 2017 is the BEST looking gen for the mustang PERIOD. Just bought a scatpack and its great its the ONLY modern muscle car. Mustang gt is a mix of sport and grand touring(owned a 2015 and 2019 both auto) and the camaro ss is just a sport car. (Driven multiple gens)
This particular mopar is also probably nearly 20k more than the gt so keep that in mind in the review
Why would you have someone review a car he clearly hates and is clearly a good car
Hes not wrong, even if its biased. The dash alone in the mustang is blasphemy. It looks like a lazy attempt to get rid of a bunch of iPads. The Challenger looks amazing inside and out, especially with the WB and 305s.
It should have been an R/T against the GT. The Charger scat pack is $58k and the 2024 Mustang GT is $47k. Why didn't you compare it to the Dark Horse? It's $59k Oh well, lets see what the trade-in value is 5 years from now. 😂
This review comparison totally cracks me up. Why is this still happening. A 2024 Compared to a car that really hasn't changed in decades beside some cosmetic and hp increases. Also the Chally and Chargers are done in a few months in this form.
Challenger/Charger. American muscle stright line smoke them if you got them big comfy cars.
Mustang/Camaro. Track focused lighter fast sports cars that are a blast.
There's really no comparison other then highlighting what we already know for the last 20 years.
Never seen a review so biased... that guy literally screams DODGE!!
If dodge wasn't so easy to steal I'd go with them I'm with ford mustang now
You are so biased.
100% agree with JL on this one.
Why not Camaro?
Subjective I like how the new mustang looks .especially in the black out package.Imagine if the mustang could judge how he looks 😂😂
What options were on this Mustang GT. I know it had the performance package and active exhaust because of the quad tips, but did it have the Magnaride suspension?
I have yet to see a good comparison where someone discusses track comparison between GT with Magnaride v non-Magnaride.
I have seen one RUclipsr driving on the street saying he didn’t notice much difference.
I've heard that Ford's Magnaride isn't as good as Chevy's.
Agree new mustang looks awful. But a 23 challenger is 65 before markup. Dealers are marking up 20k if you can find one. Can order a mustang for 45-55k no problem.
Just forget about the numbers, I believe you will have a lot more fun in the scatpack, there a blast, the mustang is a great car, just depends on what you’re looking for.
"The 2024 Mustang doesn't know what it wants to be"
I think you might need to take a break from doing car reviews. That just flat out didn't make any sense.
The new mustang does look terrible but the challenger hasn't had a major design change since it was debuted
That's the point. Mopar people like this look, and don't want it messed with.
No need to fix what ain't broke.
I’d have tested a Dark Horse against a Scat Pack.
This review is “a missed opportunity for Motortrend”.
"all new vehicle" I love ya Johnny, but that's the same car as the old one with only minor updates.
The real question is, would he buy the Dodge if he had the opportunity to?
Looks like the Camero? You mean the Camero looks like the Mustang. Ford did it first!
This dude shouldn't have a job in the car industry
@MotorTrend,
No 6th Gen SS1LE for this competition?
Ok this guy is a major moper fan so his thoughts on mustangs don't matter but everyone intital to there opinions.
How is this apples to apples? Put the top Mustang against it.
He wasn’t trashing it he was trashing the looks and I personally like the back the front is horrible
The challenger is a poorly proportioned car that people defend because it looks like a crude interpretation of the old one. I dont understand why bad designs get a pass just because they're retro. It's the same thing with the wrangler.
I would of liked mustangs if they kept the 05-09 looks, it looked exactly like the old mustang, now they keep changing the look, another reason i like dodge the keep the same look as classic
Motortrend, let's see this with a Camaro 1le since you guys removed all the other tests. Weird how that happened? !
How much did Ford pay you guys to do that ?!
Wow, I have a 24 Mustang GT, I love my car way better that anything Dodge has built
Challenger actually looks like a beefy muscle car, new mustangs look like a knock off camero. Also, Shakedown is definitely faster than a GT.