As much as I love other versions of this, I gotta say that this music performed in the way Allegri wrote it and probably heard it performed is simply sublime. Thanks for the upload and god bless
The Sistine Chapel is truly one of mankind’s most visually stunning achievement’s. A masterful display of man’s artistic and engineering capability, practically to the point where it’s becomes hard to deny that our species contains, at the very least, a spark of The Divine.
@@y274 I wasn't referring only to British people. Anglo-Saxon can mean Australian and American. It's common to refer to white native english speaking people as anglo-saxons.
Whereas the version we typically hear with the High C and entire work transposed higher is certainly beautiful and lifts the listener because of it's sheer beauty, this version touches the soul and truly reminds us of the mystery of the Church. Of course, just my opinion....I love them both.
I have always loved The Sixteen version of Allegri's Miserere, but this original (?) is so beautiful that I cannot express what it does to me. It certainly touches the Soul and is a window into Heaven.
Well, it is my opinion that, if it leads you to praise the Church, then it has failed, at least in your case. Neither King David nor Gregorio Allegri wrote their masterful works presented here to the Church. It is called Miserere Mei *Deus* , after all, not Miserere Mei Ecclesia. I prefer the version you seem to be comparing it to, at least as I have heard it, because it is clearer. The accustics as they are recorded in this video leave the voices muddled. It is *overly* accoustic, if that makes sense, and the voice of the plaintive petitioner before God does not come through as clearly in my ear. It is very much likely a different experience in person on location. I get more of the sense of the humble yet desperate heartcry in the other version, which echoes my own heart and directs me humbly before the righteous yet gracious God.
Versione di incomparabile bellezza, trascendentale... il finale è assolutamente perfetto, da brividi. A mio parere il coro della Cappella Sistina supera qualsiasi altro. Si narra che il genio di Mozart lo abbia trascritto a memoria, ma Allegri lo ha scritto....
Please don't listen to this just on your phone or computer but stream or link it to your hifi and listen again at a volume level which represents how you would hear this if you were a member of this very choir, singing in the Sistene Chapel (loud but not painfully so). Sit as close to and directly between your loudspeakers. The experience will stun you as it did me.
Yes, this is so important, I always tell people this, use a good stereo system and have it loud. cell phones and computer speakers do not do classical music justice at all. It also helps to have your full attention with no distractions. Hard things for people to do nowadays
The cut on the right side of the physically beautiful Jesus Christ depicted in the Sistine Chapel's the wound where Longinus , the centurion of the Roman Empire , inserted a nagging spear to confirm the life and death of Jesus Christ on the cross . This spear of Longinus is an invincible spear that touched the blood of Jesus Christ From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
Now I clearly understand why Pope Urban passed a degree that the song Allegri Miserere should now be sang outside the Sistine chapel, it was sang only during Holy week. God's Mercy is so rich that it will always accompany a poor Soul attain a state of grace. The church is a mystery just like God Himself is a Mystery beyond All mysteries.
While it’s true that Mozart’s father made many unfounded exaggerated claims about his 14-year-old son’s transcription of Allegri’s Miserere, there’s no reason to doubt the basic story, given that there is nothing particularly exceptional about someone of the young Mozart’s ability being able to transcribe from aural memory a work of such harmonic simplicity with multiple repetitions. What’s not known is how accurately Mozart attempted transcribing the abbellimenti added by the Vatican’s singers (if he attempted it at all) as Mozart’s transcription score appears to be lost.
@@JackGibbonsHQ The Mozart story is only partly true (unfortunately). While it is widely agreed that Mozart did transcribe the piece, having heard it in the Sistine Chapel. The section of the story regarding a Papal edict is entirely false, alongside the suggestion that it was only after Mozart's transcription that the piece was heard outside of The Vatican. In fact, the piece had been performed twice in London before Mozart is believed to have even heard it.
In another place on RUclips I read that the high C was a mistake...an accident. I don't know about that, but I believe we all hear the Miserere differently. One thing I've asked of the Heavenly Father is that He has His angels singing this as I enter heaven. That would be enough. 🙏
@@eloisem3214 don't you please assume that the songs sung by heavenly angels are less astounding than this... No offense. I just imagine.... If humans are capable of this... , Then what angels or the Creator of allll is capable of... They shall sing better songs for you as you enter the gates of heaven... Don't you swoon when they sing... Ha ha... God bless you!
@@roseofsharon7553 I love this! Thank you, Rose. 😇 And no, I don't assume anything when it comes to heavenly music, but just to THINK we might join the angels in this awesome work as we go tripping into heaven? Maybe we all could take turns doing the high C thing? 😇🥰🙏
@@eloisem3214 Just to imagine all that you said, with my teeny tiny human mind, is amazing... ... God bless you so much. Let us all rejoice for the Lord hath saved us...
This may not be precisely the original version, as other scholars have said. But it is certainly closer to the original than the version now sung as the "modern" version. It's not just the added high "C" note either. The modern version which may accurately be called the English version (or Anglican if you prefer) is the one most people know, certainly in the English-speaking world. In this case familiarity has not bred contempt but admiration. But some of us know the modern version is not Allegri's original.
I do think this original version fits the psalm lyrics better than the newer version. Both versions are beautiful but this sounds more like an urgent yet solemn plea for mercy from God, which is fitting.
Credo proprio che i Pontefici fossero gelosi di questa musica celestiale ...ma non avevano fatto i conti con Mozart, che fu in grado di trascriverla esattamente.
With the exception of the interspersed plainchant, yes. This is as unadulterated as I can find. The original plainchant is widely accepted to have been Tone IX (the ninth tone/mode), more commonly known as “Tonus Peregrinus” (Wandering Tone).
@@WilliamFord972 It's in the Papal Choir archive, although dates from 1661, probably 30 years or so after composition, so you can never be sure. Nothing at all to do with Mozart though, whose transcription from performance is entirely lost.
Ремикс Моцарта, может, и мимимишнее, за то версия Ватикана трушнее. И поют её лучше, чем версию Моцарта. Не знаю, как другим, мне больше нравится версия Ватикана, больше за душу берёт, а Моцарт больше инструментальщик был, нежели вокальник, + зелёный возраст, разумеется, его версия сильно уступает. Жаль, нет возможности послушать её (версию Ватикана) в исполнении сопранистов, как это было в 17-18 веке, в её лучшие времена.
Why emphasize the Mozart myth during this beautiful video? Why not concentrate on the ethereal beauty of this music, the lyrics and the Sistine Chapel? Even if the Mozart myth was true, why push that to the foreground instead of the music itself?
I am not a fan of the Sistine chapel. i don't have a problem with all the naked bodies. I just feel it is too crowded, over done. Just naked bodies all over filling the sky, mostly all men. Not like i have a problem with naked bodies, as i stated before. Some of Michelangelo's proportions can be off at times. He also had a lot of helpers. i think he just fixed mistakes although all the drawings are his original ideas so i give him credit there. Both Michelangelo and Leonardo were gay as a .... They took a great interest in the male body that was physically fit and perfect. The Sisteen chapel reflects that! After all the contributions from the LGBTQ to the Catholic Church, they were treated with great disdain. A lot of prests, cardinals and popes were also LGBTQ. And the hate continues today especially with some Catholics. I know last year a Cuban American father in Miami, who was a devote Catholic and Right Wing in his politics shot and killed his only son, after the 21 year old came out as gay to him. A supervisor of mine from the US that visited Rome and the Vatican remarkable how shocked he was to see so much art of naked bodies of mostly men, were everywhere!!! 😅😅😅 He said the Vatican museum had the most erotic art he has ever seen!!
@Dan-xx5jq Your claim that the two artist were gay is unsubstantiated by REAL scholarly research. And don’t forget, we are called to love all sinners….YET ALSO TO “HATE” all sin. Afterall, Sin crucifies innocence…..an even crucified reputations of those who, though innocent, are not defending themselves…..whether being silent for a higher purpose….or being unable because they’re now dead… or whatever. It seems you wish to kidnap historical genius to support LGBTQ current illicit agendas. Hmmmm.
As much as I love other versions of this, I gotta say that this music performed in the way Allegri wrote it and probably heard it performed is simply sublime.
Thanks for the upload and god bless
The Sistine Chapel is truly one of mankind’s most visually stunning achievement’s. A masterful display of man’s artistic and engineering capability, practically to the point where it’s becomes hard to deny that our species contains, at the very least, a spark of The Divine.
Atheists: “Christians are so backwards and simple”
Also atheists: makes ugly weird formless architecture
Christians: make the Sistine chapel
Finally an italian choir did It
I love that strong latin's pronunciation
My thoughts exactly! No offence to the anglo-saxons, but it's best if we leave ecclesiastical latin to the italians.
@@rafaelalexie2417 it’s British mate, you don’t call them anglo saxons anymore
@@y274 I wasn't referring only to British people. Anglo-Saxon can mean Australian and American. It's common to refer to white native english speaking people as anglo-saxons.
It’s all Greek to me 🤪
@@rafaelalexie2417 Not a chance of that happening. I will sing and chant in Latin every chance I get.
Whereas the version we typically hear with the High C and entire work transposed higher is certainly beautiful and lifts the listener because of it's sheer beauty, this version touches the soul and truly reminds us of the mystery of the Church. Of course, just my opinion....I love them both.
I love both as well but this one just really does it in a deeper way for me and is more acoustically lush/resonant
I have always loved The Sixteen version of Allegri's Miserere, but this original (?) is so beautiful that I cannot express what it does to me. It certainly touches the Soul and is a window into Heaven.
This is more devotional and more in keeping with the spirit of Holy Week; the other, is showy and meant for the concert hall.
Well, it is my opinion that, if it leads you to praise the Church, then it has failed, at least in your case. Neither King David nor Gregorio Allegri wrote their masterful works presented here to the Church.
It is called Miserere Mei *Deus* , after all, not Miserere Mei Ecclesia.
I prefer the version you seem to be comparing it to, at least as I have heard it, because it is clearer. The accustics as they are recorded in this video leave the voices muddled. It is *overly* accoustic, if that makes sense, and the voice of the plaintive petitioner before God does not come through as clearly in my ear. It is very much likely a different experience in person on location.
I get more of the sense of the humble yet desperate heartcry in the other version, which echoes my own heart and directs me humbly before the righteous yet gracious God.
Nah... this just sounds ridiculously tasty to your ears...no need to uplift a pedofilic building
The best version, a heavenly version! The Sistine Chapel is one of a few places something this heavenly could be performed
Sono orgoglioso che questa Meraviglia sia stata scritta da un Italiano..... Grazie
Che Dio ti benedica sempre
Dio non esiste, ma Allegri sì, ed è questo quello che importa!
Versione di incomparabile bellezza, trascendentale... il finale è assolutamente perfetto, da brividi. A mio parere il coro della Cappella Sistina supera qualsiasi altro. Si narra che il genio di Mozart lo abbia trascritto a memoria, ma Allegri lo ha scritto....
Please don't listen to this just on your phone or computer but stream or link it to your hifi and listen again at a volume level which represents how you would hear this if you were a member of this very choir, singing in the Sistene Chapel (loud but not painfully so). Sit as close to and directly between your loudspeakers. The experience will stun you as it did me.
Oh man I really want to sing this with my high school choir so badly 🥺
Yes, this is so important, I always tell people this, use a good stereo system and have it loud. cell phones and computer speakers do not do classical music justice at all. It also helps to have your full attention with no distractions. Hard things for people to do nowadays
This beautiful piece of music was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Stunningly beautiful and inspirational choral work, thank you.
I admire this.
Simply beautiful. Thank you for this Jack. (Netherlands)
I'm from the US, Catholic and living in Nederland, love it here!
Io avrei messo la foto di Allegri però ! Visto che lo ha scritto lui…il Salisburghese al massimo (forse) lo ha trascritto…
So beautiful ! Thank you !
This is angelic...
I knew the Mozart story, but not the plausible conjecture about the publication. Many thanks!
*yeah hi*
Looking for information about Moazrt the "Knight of the spur". Any link will be appreciated~
Brings back memories of when my family spent time alone in the chapel, nobody but the four of us. A special pass from the Pope.
Nepotismo?
This is the original version the high C was added later by a transcription error.. I def prefer this!!!
Mi chiedevo se esistesse un CD con questa precisa versione. È meravigliosa.
This is amazing music
This is phenomenal
The cut on the right side of the physically beautiful Jesus Christ depicted in the Sistine Chapel's the wound where Longinus , the centurion of the Roman Empire , inserted a nagging spear to confirm the life and death of Jesus Christ on the cross .
This spear of Longinus is an invincible spear that touched the blood of Jesus Christ
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Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
We will never know the exact story and does it matter, the music is the most important thing here
Eccezionale!!!!
Now I clearly understand why Pope Urban passed a degree that the song Allegri Miserere should now be sang outside the Sistine chapel, it was sang only during Holy week. God's Mercy is so rich that it will always accompany a poor Soul attain a state of grace. The church is a mystery just like God Himself is a Mystery beyond All mysteries.
Awesome ❤
The Mozart "story" is just that ... a story. You should know that, Jack.
While it’s true that Mozart’s father made many unfounded exaggerated claims about his 14-year-old son’s transcription of Allegri’s Miserere, there’s no reason to doubt the basic story, given that there is nothing particularly exceptional about someone of the young Mozart’s ability being able to transcribe from aural memory a work of such harmonic simplicity with multiple repetitions. What’s not known is how accurately Mozart attempted transcribing the abbellimenti added by the Vatican’s singers (if he attempted it at all) as Mozart’s transcription score appears to be lost.
@@JackGibbonsHQ The Mozart story is only partly true (unfortunately). While it is widely agreed that Mozart did transcribe the piece, having heard it in the Sistine Chapel. The section of the story regarding a Papal edict is entirely false, alongside the suggestion that it was only after Mozart's transcription that the piece was heard outside of The Vatican. In fact, the piece had been performed twice in London before Mozart is believed to have even heard it.
I appreciate any version of the “Miserere Mei” that does not have the adulterated section with the high-C.
In another place on RUclips I read that the high C was a mistake...an accident. I
don't know about that, but I believe we all hear the Miserere differently. One thing I've asked of the Heavenly Father is that He has His angels singing this as I enter heaven. That would be enough. 🙏
@@eloisem3214 don't you please assume that the songs sung by heavenly angels are less astounding than this... No offense. I just imagine.... If humans are capable of this... , Then what angels or the Creator of allll is capable of... They shall sing better songs for you as you enter the gates of heaven... Don't you swoon when they sing... Ha ha... God bless you!
@@roseofsharon7553 I love this! Thank you, Rose. 😇 And no, I don't assume anything when it comes to heavenly music, but just to THINK we might join the angels in this awesome work as we go tripping into heaven? Maybe we all could take turns doing the high C thing?
😇🥰🙏
@@eloisem3214 Just to imagine all that you said, with my teeny tiny human mind, is amazing... ... God bless you so much. Let us all rejoice for the Lord hath saved us...
@@roseofsharon7553 AMEN! 🥰🙏
This may not be precisely the original version, as other scholars have said. But it is certainly closer to the original than the version now sung as the "modern" version. It's not just the added high "C" note either. The modern version which may accurately be called the English version (or Anglican if you prefer) is the one most people know, certainly in the English-speaking world. In this case familiarity has not bred contempt but admiration. But some of us know the modern version is not Allegri's original.
Ethereal beauty.
I do think this original version fits the psalm lyrics better than the newer version. Both versions are beautiful but this sounds more like an urgent yet solemn plea for mercy from God, which is fitting.
What music is in that portrait of him on the piano
Allegri probably wouldn't have minded being bootlegged by THIS particular cheeky teenager?
So beautiful
THIS IS NOT WORK OF MAN OF FLESH AND BLOOD.
IT IS THE CREATION OF HOLY SPIRIT.AMEN.
Dayum the plot...
I am an atheist, but I love Vatican City and the Sistine Chapel!!! Michelangelo is the real God!
Credo proprio che i Pontefici fossero gelosi di questa musica celestiale ...ma non avevano fatto i conti con Mozart, che fu in grado di trascriverla esattamente.
Foi lá padronizar algo que ele nem sabia o que era
Christian Music is the most beautiful
Don't mind me, I am just the remarkable Moz-man here to steal the music.
Why is this one 10 minutes? Other ones 15 minutes? And others 5 minutes?
Probably a combination of tempo and how many verses sung.
@@WilliamFord972 They sing it quite fast. That's all.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth is in my mind
The Mozart story is apocryphal.
Actually no. It was described in a contemporary letter written by Mozart’s father Leopold. But no doubt it has been exaggerated and expanded upon.
With his taste for sacrilege & the uncanonical, it’s arguable that the Aprocrypha is Mozartian.
which musical piece is in the portrait?
Is this the original Allegri's Miserere? Without any changes by Mozart or Mendelssohn?
I think there are slight variations maybe
*Yes it is*
ruclips.net/video/h6hD8YtO5HI/видео.html
With the exception of the interspersed plainchant, yes. This is as unadulterated as I can find. The original plainchant is widely accepted to have been Tone IX (the ninth tone/mode), more commonly known as “Tonus Peregrinus” (Wandering Tone).
@@WilliamFord972 It's in the Papal Choir archive, although dates from 1661, probably 30 years or so after composition, so you can never be sure. Nothing at all to do with Mozart though, whose transcription from performance is entirely lost.
This sounds if only men and boys are singing!
that's because they are just men and boys.
Was this recorded in the chapel or under the dome? Just curious. It sounds very spacious and incredibly reverberant for such a small chapel. Anyway...
Not a so small chapel 40 x 18 x 21 meters!
E' cantata basandosi sulla pubblicazione di Alfieri?
E' basata sull'originale.
No matter if your christian or not, this song is still amazing
From a musical perspective, this is fantastic. There is also a fun history to it.
Ремикс Моцарта, может, и мимимишнее, за то версия Ватикана трушнее. И поют её лучше, чем версию Моцарта. Не знаю, как другим, мне больше нравится версия Ватикана, больше за душу берёт, а Моцарт больше инструментальщик был, нежели вокальник, + зелёный возраст, разумеется, его версия сильно уступает. Жаль, нет возможности послушать её (версию Ватикана) в исполнении сопранистов, как это было в 17-18 веке, в её лучшие времена.
Why emphasize the Mozart myth during this beautiful video? Why not concentrate on the ethereal beauty of this music, the lyrics and the Sistine Chapel? Even if the Mozart myth was true, why push that to the foreground instead of the music itself?
Mozart lo mexoró para Iglesia Cathólica
The Mozart myth has been debunked by a few folks; please do your research before publishing.
To be fair, he did pose it as a question. But the reply is nevertheless NO. And Burney met Mozart at the end of August 1770 in Bologna, not in Rome.
There's a drum and bass remix of this, I'll see if I can find the link...
Yeah its real banger of a tune.
I am not a fan of the Sistine chapel. i don't have a problem with all the naked bodies. I just feel it is too crowded, over done. Just naked bodies all over filling the sky, mostly all men. Not like i have a problem with naked bodies, as i stated before. Some of Michelangelo's proportions can be off at times. He also had a lot of helpers. i think he just fixed mistakes although all the drawings are his original ideas so i give him credit there.
Both Michelangelo and Leonardo were gay as a ....
They took a great interest in the male body that was physically fit and perfect. The Sisteen chapel reflects that! After all the contributions from the LGBTQ to the Catholic Church, they were treated with great disdain. A lot of prests, cardinals and popes were also LGBTQ. And the hate continues today especially with some Catholics. I know last year a Cuban American father in Miami, who was a devote Catholic and Right Wing in his politics shot and killed his only son, after the 21 year old came out as gay to him.
A supervisor of mine from the US that visited Rome and the Vatican remarkable how shocked he was to see so much art of naked bodies of mostly men, were everywhere!!! 😅😅😅 He said the Vatican museum had the most erotic art he has ever seen!!
@Dan-xx5jq
Your claim that the two artist were gay is unsubstantiated by REAL scholarly research. And don’t forget, we are called to love all sinners….YET ALSO TO “HATE” all sin. Afterall, Sin crucifies innocence…..an even crucified reputations of those who, though innocent, are not defending themselves…..whether being silent for a higher purpose….or being unable because they’re now dead… or whatever.
It seems you wish to kidnap historical genius to support LGBTQ current illicit agendas. Hmmmm.
The first case of piracy. COOL!
...that we know of lol
He didn't pirate it, Mozart presented it to the Pope afterwards and the Pope was so impressed he let Mozart present it outside the Vatican