"I spoke with Commissioner Gordon before I came in here. He said he wants this done by the book. Do you know what that means? Despite all your sick, cruel, twisted games, he's as sane as he ever was. So, ordinary people don't crack. Maybe it's just YOU." -Batman
I use to think that The Joker came from no origin because his real origin kept being retold in various ways over and over again. I use to think that he does what he does because he is an absolute evil person who just causes chaos just for his own entertainment and fun. But after watching the *Killing Joke* movie I realized that The Jokers philosophy is somewhat true. All it takes is one bad day to cause a fragile man turn to lunacy. Some people can go through those types of tragic things and rise of from them to become something necessarily good (Batman) Or others can fall into despair and become something wrong and dangerous (Joker)
The only reason we perceive Batman as good is because he’s more in line with the established order. If society moved on from the current way that it is in the Batman universe then society wouldn’t need Batman anymore and he would be considered a freak just like the joker. The Dark Knight shows this concept pretty well
the whole point of the killing joke was that the Joker was *WRONG.* Gordon got back up and did it by the book. That was *the whole point* of the story.
When Bruce's parents died, he had something he could return to - the mansion, Alfred and more money than he knew what to do with at this point. Granted, none of these things could bring back his parents, but they were there to anchor him, especially Alfred. The Joker? If we can believe the backstory given in the Killing Joke (doubtful, I admit), then his life went from "barely there" to completely wiped out in a single day by circumstances that, while independent from each other, worked together in seemingly perfect harmony to ruin his life. Batsy fell into a safety net while the Joker had no such thing and fell into an abyss from which there is no escape.
I don't get why they keep the Joker's backstory a mystery when ever since Killing Joke they've done several different versions of it. Him saying if I'm going to have a past I'd prefer it to be multiple choice would've been a lot more believable.
"Because I've heard it before. And it wasn't funny the first time. I spoke with Gordon, he told me he wants this done by the book. You know what that means? It means that despite your sick, cruel, viscious crimes, he is as sane as he ever was. So ordinary people don't crack. Maybe...it's just you."
That line from Batsy always irritated me. Because a hardened grizzled cop who is confronted day in day out by the worst Gotham has to offer can hardly be called "ordinary".
@@hannahmonteiro9229 , especially since Amanda Waller uses the criminals from Batman and The Flash’s villains Rogue Gallery to being used on suicide missions instead of just calling in the Doom Patrol which would cheaper, breaking less laws, and she’d have way more loyal followers if she just allowed the Doom Patrol to do the missions she wants the Suicide Squad to do, so yes The Joker is absolutely right that all it takes is one bad day to drive anyone to lunacy.
He's right, all it takes is one bad day to change everything. But change for the better, so that you see the world not as broken patches, but something beautiful born from the pain. That is what truly makes us stronger. That is all it takes, to mold the broken man into virtue
The joker is able to break the 4th wall he’s just aware that he’s a comic book villain so he does all this messed up things causing chaos cause he knows it doesn’t matter.
This reading has more than enough life of its own to not come off as a Hamill impression. When people try to sound too close to Hamill, you automatically start listening for weaknesses, whereas this is more concerned with the delivery itself. You’re not constrained by another performance but you’re still honouring it ❤️
This film is the best Joker portrayal out there. We all have had theories as to how Joker became the evil villain he is. All it takes is one very bad day to drive the most sane man into lunacy. That could not be any more true. Some people who’ve experienced some sort of traumatizing experience can either rise above it (Batman) whereas others let their lunacy consume them and they become dangerous and harmful (Joker). Hamill and Conroy’s acting just made the film even more better.
Good voice acting unto itself, but I feel it doesn't really feel TRAGIC. This is the one moment in Joker's monstrous life that he shows a ghost of humanity.
Finally. The original version straight from the comic book. So far I've seen people doing only the movie version, which is not too bad in and of itself, but doesn't really measure up to this.
I think I can believe that the monologue is somehow true in many ways. Some can agree while many will not, because they probably never experienced it as a true enough fact of this amazing monologue. I think an example should explain this... One, bad, day CAN drive a man insane. For some who are still lucky enough... If you have one seriously bad day, see a way out, you can use that anchor to escape the terrors of your internal and external struggles. But for a regular, ordinary man to fall into a terrifying abyss of nightmares and inevitable fears from which you CANNOT, EVER, ESCAPE... You WILL go insane. You may refuse this at first, denial is the first stage in your own mind. Then you will try to find ways of a mental escape... But will never satisfy yourself trying, no matter how much you do. Then the final stage finale comes into play! (Pun intended), Your mental struggles will overwhelm your mind, sadness and feelings of loss become your anger and bitter defiance, then you will choose to act as you please... Showing the world that you hate your life, so you will in turn make those suffer in return for your bitterly evil desires. And as I finish this example... Madness, IS the emergency exit.
So I have a question. What do you think would happen to the Joker if he had one good day. I’m not talking like “he just blew up a hospital” kind of good,but like a genuinely good day. No evil done, no master scheme, no one dying. Just a really good day. Would it have changed him for the better?
Yes Joker, I know. I have had my bad day and it drove me crazy too. The thing is, knowing what a black sick joke the world can be doesn't make me want to laugh... it makes me want to cry. It's not a joke that's worth laughing at.
I don't think the Joker is completely insane. Honestly, he seems more like a misanthropic nihilist. The only thing that indicates he's insane is that he doesn't really remember what drove him to this point which would be repressing the traumatic experience, but that's only an indication not proof. If we look at things objectively, the Joker is right, but it's the way he goes about proving his point that makes people question his sanity. The Joker's problem isn't a psychological one, but an existential one. To him morals and ideals have no real value or meaning, that's why everything is a joke to him.
I always liked the multiple choice origin story. For years, I have wondered where my desires came from. Where they natural? Did someone give me desire? I loved how the 2019 movie took hints from Joker's bad day, but kept it seperate from DC comics canon. I thought it was interesting to replace Arkham with an ordinary looking hospital, rather than something from the 1700s or 1800s.
The joker is my idle he knows the world as well as me it's just 1 big joke and your the punch line, the more you try to figure it out the more it doesn't make sense, think about it no matter what it might be it makes you more wise and with knowledge comes insanity
How the hell can you idolise someone who’d probably kill you for a laugh? You edgelords are pretty concerning. Joker isn’t supposed to be idolised, he only sees the world as one big joke because he can’t cope with the things he faced in life. He let one bad day break him easily, he’s weak.
@@mrbluesky4838 you need to be strong to see the truth the world is made of hate nothing more nothing less you can't understand the world because it doesn't make sense, a hero only matters when they can save people
@@multiversaldemigod Alan Moore literally said himself the whole point is that joker was wrong and only went insane because he was weak yet you seem to arrogantly think you know better.
The Pothead666 no he isn’t, joker only went insane because he was weak. Characters like Bruce, Gordon, Dick and Barbara went through multiple bad days yet they still kept their sanity because they are a lot stronger. Gordon telling joker to be brought in by the book completely disproves his point. Joker keeps telling himself that anyone could go insane to justify his actions to himself when really he’s only the way he is because he was weak. Please don’t misinterpret the whole point of the killing joke.
@@mrbluesky4838 everyone takes things differently. Theres a lot of people in this world, myself included, that had one bad day that fucked everything up its possible.
The Pothead666 Alan Moore himself said the whole point is that joker is wrong and how he only went insane because he was weak yet he uses this philosophy to justify his actions to himself.
Do you know what's scary? The Joker is not completely wrong. While Batman (for the most part) proved him otherwise, you can't deny that there is a nugget of truth in his speech.
i mean both of THE JOKER and BATMAN saw how horrific gotham could be the only difference is the path they have taken WE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE SAME WE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE IN LIFE the joker is pro reality while batman saw hope in gotham and its people..
I hate when ever I see people think that the Joker was right, like did you read the story? The joker is an exception to the rule. He tried to do the same thing to Gordon but he failed, Jim was fine. Not to say it can’t happen, but it’s not what happens every time someone goes through something traumatic.
Maria Versolato no, he’s wrong. Gordon wasn’t driven insane by his “one bad day” because he’s a strong and resilient man. Joker only went insane because he was weak.
@@mrbluesky4838 he's right about one thing one bad day to reduce the sanest man to Luracy cletus kasady and scourge the hedgehog and some people who have one bad day become insane
I think Joker is actually 100 percent sane. He does what he does not because he's insane. He does it cause he just doesn't care. He views reality as a crude vile black joke and he's sees humanity as utterly worthless. And as far as "innocent" people go, there's no such thing. He believes that deep down everyone is monster just like he is and it only takes just one bad day to bring that monster out of anyone. So as far as he's concerned he's really the only sane one and he's just ahead of everyone else. No one, not Batman, not even Hugo Strange has ever truly figured him out. You can't fix what isn't broken. That's why. He's not insane. He's just evil. Simple as that
"Because I've heard it before. And it wasn't funny the first time."
Batman RIGHT after this monologue.
All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy, that's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.
@Demonetization yep
But it doesn't
You'd know that wouldn't you
No, joker only went insane because he was weak. He’s wrong.
@@mrbluesky4838 scourge the hedgehog and carnage cletus kasady are insane
Makes you wonder if the Joker is actually insane, or if he sees reality too closely for what it is.
He’s insane. He repeatedly admits he’s insane and even out of universe sources officially published by DC Comics states that he’s insane.
@@YousufKhanPR Anyone who’s evil gets called insane , it’s not even a medical term
@@mrk3815 Indeed. Insanity is a legal term, not a medical term. However, even in comic books, some insane characters aren't even villains.
I mean his IQ is confirmed to be 350 and in most versions I believe he is actually sane
@@RaNgErs_Rep He's not sane though.
Because I heard it all before. And it wasn't funny the first time.
- Batman
"I spoke with Commissioner Gordon before I came in here. He said he wants this done by the book. Do you know what that means? Despite all your sick, cruel, twisted games, he's as sane as he ever was. So, ordinary people don't crack. Maybe it's just YOU."
-Batman
@@FlyingV3rdJoker: 😠😡😬 NO! Hehehehehehe!!!
@@thenerdwholovesentertainme1721 (They fight)
I use to think that The Joker came from no origin because his real origin kept being retold in various ways over and over again. I use to think that he does what he does because he is an absolute evil person who just causes chaos just for his own entertainment and fun. But after watching the *Killing Joke* movie I realized that The Jokers philosophy is somewhat true. All it takes is one bad day to cause a fragile man turn to lunacy.
Some people can go through those types of tragic things and rise of from them to become something necessarily good (Batman)
Or others can fall into despair and become something wrong and dangerous (Joker)
The only reason we perceive Batman as good is because he’s more in line with the established order. If society moved on from the current way that it is in the Batman universe then society wouldn’t need Batman anymore and he would be considered a freak just like the joker. The Dark Knight shows this concept pretty well
I think he's the same species as Pennywise. He just feeds differently, and all the time.
the whole point of the killing joke was that the Joker was *WRONG.*
Gordon got back up and did it by the book.
That was *the whole point* of the story.
When Bruce's parents died, he had something he could return to - the mansion, Alfred and more money than he knew what to do with at this point. Granted, none of these things could bring back his parents, but they were there to anchor him, especially Alfred.
The Joker? If we can believe the backstory given in the Killing Joke (doubtful, I admit), then his life went from "barely there" to completely wiped out in a single day by circumstances that, while independent from each other, worked together in seemingly perfect harmony to ruin his life.
Batsy fell into a safety net while the Joker had no such thing and fell into an abyss from which there is no escape.
I don't get why they keep the Joker's backstory a mystery when ever since Killing Joke they've done several different versions of it. Him saying if I'm going to have a past I'd prefer it to be multiple choice would've been a lot more believable.
"Because I've heard it before. And it wasn't funny the first time. I spoke with Gordon, he told me he wants this done by the book. You know what that means? It means that despite your sick, cruel, viscious crimes, he is as sane as he ever was. So ordinary people don't crack. Maybe...it's just you."
That line from Batsy always irritated me. Because a hardened grizzled cop who is confronted day in day out by the worst Gotham has to offer can hardly be called "ordinary".
@@hannahmonteiro9229 , especially since Amanda Waller uses the criminals from Batman and The Flash’s villains Rogue Gallery to being used on suicide missions instead of just calling in the Doom Patrol which would cheaper, breaking less laws, and she’d have way more loyal followers if she just allowed the Doom Patrol to do the missions she wants the Suicide Squad to do, so yes The Joker is absolutely right that all it takes is one bad day to drive anyone to lunacy.
Now i see the funny side....now im always smiling
Oh shit
I love how calm your interpretation is. It makes the Joker seem more cold and calculating with his words.
"Because I've heard it before. And it wasnt funny the first time."
He's right, all it takes is one bad day to change everything. But change for the better, so that you see the world not as broken patches, but something beautiful born from the pain. That is what truly makes us stronger. That is all it takes, to mold the broken man into virtue
The joker is able to break the 4th wall he’s just aware that he’s a comic book villain so he does all this messed up things causing chaos cause he knows it doesn’t matter.
Or alan moore the writer was a real human being
That’s one version of him.
@@Jesus-vu9fs where is that version?
@@Jesus-vu9fs hey answer the question
This reading has more than enough life of its own to not come off as a Hamill impression. When people try to sound too close to Hamill, you automatically start listening for weaknesses, whereas this is more concerned with the delivery itself. You’re not constrained by another performance but you’re still honouring it ❤️
👏👏👏👏👏👏
This film is the best Joker portrayal out there. We all have had theories as to how Joker became the evil villain he is. All it takes is one very bad day to drive the most sane man into lunacy. That could not be any more true. Some people who’ve experienced some sort of traumatizing experience can either rise above it (Batman) whereas others let their lunacy consume them and they become dangerous and harmful (Joker). Hamill and Conroy’s acting just made the film even more better.
"A person can go insane with just one bad day"
You REALLY want to know why I’m not laughing, Joker? It’s because I’ve heard of this before... *and it wasn’t even funny the first time.*
Because I've heard it before.
And it wasn't funny the first time.
Now THAT’S how Batman would reply
@@TheunrealToxic Well that's really what he replied lol.
@@ethanmandengue3870 _I know_
Good voice acting unto itself, but I feel it doesn't really feel TRAGIC. This is the one moment in Joker's monstrous life that he shows a ghost of humanity.
Yeah, he's great but didn't put enough emotion into this moment. This is suppose to be The Joker unraveling.
Finally. The original version straight from the comic book. So far I've seen people doing only the movie version, which is not too bad in and of itself, but doesn't really measure up to this.
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I think I can believe that the monologue is somehow true in many ways. Some can agree while many will not, because they probably never experienced it as a true enough fact of this amazing monologue.
I think an example should explain this...
One, bad, day CAN drive a man insane.
For some who are still lucky enough... If you have one seriously bad day, see a way out, you can use that anchor to escape the terrors of your internal and external struggles.
But for a regular, ordinary man to fall into a terrifying abyss of nightmares and inevitable fears from which you CANNOT, EVER, ESCAPE...
You WILL go insane. You may refuse this at first, denial is the first stage in your own mind.
Then you will try to find ways of a mental escape... But will never satisfy yourself trying, no matter how much you do.
Then the final stage finale comes into play! (Pun intended),
Your mental struggles will overwhelm your mind, sadness and feelings of loss become your anger and bitter defiance, then you will choose to act as you please... Showing the world that you hate your life, so you will in turn make those suffer in return for your bitterly evil desires.
And as I finish this example...
Madness, IS the emergency exit.
“If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple Choice”. Such a fucking bar
I had a bad day once. But it didn't make me crazy. It just made me HATE everyone
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I'm sorry. I do not understand what you mean
same
*You are the joker*
@@comebacksarecool2834 funny. I think I can live with that. HAHAHA
It took one bad day and now I have to go to a psychiatrist for a year but I'm doing better now but I can still feel it
Today was that day
2 year ago
Wgat happened?
So I have a question. What do you think would happen to the Joker if he had one good day. I’m not talking like “he just blew up a hospital” kind of good,but like a genuinely good day. No evil done, no master scheme, no one dying. Just a really good day. Would it have changed him for the better?
I really enjoyed your performance!
Artist is Alex Ross, he's done whole graphic novels in this style and its amazing
Batman: _"...because I've heard it all before, and it WASN'T FUNNY THE FIRST TIME!"_
The Joker is weak because he can't accept that life is tough, he could not cope, it's all a joke to him and he's trying to make people see it his way
Yes Joker, I know. I have had my bad day and it drove me crazy too.
The thing is, knowing what a black sick joke the world can be doesn't make me want to laugh... it makes me want to cry. It's not a joke that's worth laughing at.
erm what the sigma
@@johnnyo429
Sorry, what was that?
We all react differently to that "one bad day", some can rebuild themselves to a degree, others...don't.
"maybe normal people don't crack, maybe it's just you."
The question is... what's normal?
"Comes to me with the knife, and says, Why so serious son?! Why so serious?!! Let's put a smile on that face!...and... Why so serious?" - Joker
Deep down we all really feel bad for Joker
I don't think the Joker is completely insane. Honestly, he seems more like a misanthropic nihilist. The only thing that indicates he's insane is that he doesn't really remember what drove him to this point which would be repressing the traumatic experience, but that's only an indication not proof. If we look at things objectively, the Joker is right, but it's the way he goes about proving his point that makes people question his sanity. The Joker's problem isn't a psychological one, but an existential one. To him morals and ideals have no real value or meaning, that's why everything is a joke to him.
I always liked the multiple choice origin story. For years, I have wondered where my desires came from. Where they natural? Did someone give me desire?
I loved how the 2019 movie took hints from Joker's bad day, but kept it seperate from DC comics canon. I thought it was interesting to replace Arkham with an ordinary looking hospital, rather than something from the 1700s or 1800s.
The joker is my idle he knows the world as well as me it's just 1 big joke and your the punch line, the more you try to figure it out the more it doesn't make sense, think about it no matter what it might be it makes you more wise and with knowledge comes insanity
killer joking kid King 2 it’s great to learn, cause knowledge is MADNESS!
@@Megalomor I know right it takes a madman to know a madman
How the hell can you idolise someone who’d probably kill you for a laugh? You edgelords are pretty concerning. Joker isn’t supposed to be idolised, he only sees the world as one big joke because he can’t cope with the things he faced in life. He let one bad day break him easily, he’s weak.
@@mrbluesky4838 you need to be strong to see the truth the world is made of hate nothing more nothing less you can't understand the world because it doesn't make sense, a hero only matters when they can save people
@@multiversaldemigod Alan Moore literally said himself the whole point is that joker was wrong and only went insane because he was weak yet you seem to arrogantly think you know better.
this is way the joker is the best villian even better than some heros really
He's not wrong one bad day can change a person's life after all that's the story of every superheroes and villains
😘👌
I think the Joker is both Psychopathically insane AND a nihilist and absurdist.
I think Batman is a Nihilist too but he is a Good Nihilist
@@TheArlequin768 ha.
Joker has a different level of commonsense
Life is just a joke and death is the punchline
Discord moderators when they get rejected by a 13 yeard old
Joke isn’t insane he is super sane he is a genius all his attacks are planned and work out great but people think he’s crazy
I once had a bad day but i didn't go mad i just laughed it off.
Hyper-intelligence, dark and twisted sense of humor, apathy, all together as one, the one true supervillain, THE JOKER!
He's right.
A bad day......hang in there ...There's plenty of more where that came from just don't break stay calm and never give up.......joke hahahaha
Joker realizes that shit happens and there is no deeper meaning to it.
Joker wants humanity to become like Joker, billions of people as Joker's disciple, now that is funny
what's his philosophy?
Insane people don’t know they’re insane. Joker is as sane as the average asshole walking on the streets.
The killing joke
The three dislikes are Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, and Bruce Wayne
And the crowbar
Joker was never a bad man he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.. fr fr
He's right just one bad day
The Pothead666 no he isn’t, joker only went insane because he was weak. Characters like Bruce, Gordon, Dick and Barbara went through multiple bad days yet they still kept their sanity because they are a lot stronger. Gordon telling joker to be brought in by the book completely disproves his point.
Joker keeps telling himself that anyone could go insane to justify his actions to himself when really he’s only the way he is because he was weak. Please don’t misinterpret the whole point of the killing joke.
@@mrbluesky4838 everyone takes things differently. Theres a lot of people in this world, myself included, that had one bad day that fucked everything up its possible.
The Pothead666 Alan Moore himself said the whole point is that joker is wrong and how he only went insane because he was weak yet he uses this philosophy to justify his actions to himself.
Some people go insane after one bad day and some people just rise up again stronger than they were before
@@mrbluesky4838 carnage and scourge the hedgehog went insane
Because I have heard it before. And it wasn't funny the first time.
-----Batman
Because I heard your jokes before and I'm tired of every single one of them
“He’s out of line, but he’s right”
Do you know what's scary? The Joker is not completely wrong. While Batman (for the most part) proved him otherwise, you can't deny that there is a nugget of truth in his speech.
I believe Batman knows what Joker said is True Batman just dont want to Give Up
Which jerma stream was this
Is this mark hamill? It sounds like him
What is this from
Imagine if Kevin Michael Richardson reads this.
...........
Why does this sound like Richard Epcar joker
So what if a man had 100 bad days?
LimeD clap
Because I hear it before Joker, and it's not was funny the first time.
My one bad day was when my mother died suddenly a week before Christmas.
I’m not The Joker.
I mean he's not wrong
😃
Turns out gordan wasn’t crazy at all 😐
The joker cant meme
The inverse is true.
"Life is a Joke".-The Joker
who is having a bad day?
Jonker
Who is the one dislike
it was me...
@@Megalomor why
i mean both of THE JOKER and BATMAN saw how horrific gotham could be
the only difference is the path they have taken
WE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE SAME WE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE IN LIFE
the joker is pro reality while batman saw hope in gotham and its people..
And thats why i fear for my ex, hanging out with dudes he called harmless friends, it only takes ONE BAD DAY!
I hate when ever I see people think that the Joker was right, like did you read the story? The joker is an exception to the rule. He tried to do the same thing to Gordon but he failed, Jim was fine. Not to say it can’t happen, but it’s not what happens every time someone goes through something traumatic.
weird thing, he is right
But...ITS WRONG THATS THE POINT
Maria Versolato no, he’s wrong. Gordon wasn’t driven insane by his “one bad day” because he’s a strong and resilient man. Joker only went insane because he was weak.
@@mrbluesky4838 he's right about one thing one bad day to reduce the sanest man to Luracy cletus kasady and scourge the hedgehog and some people who have one bad day become insane
@@Rainbow_dash67. I don’t even know what you’re commenting about, are you trolling?
I think Joker is actually 100 percent sane. He does what he does not because he's insane. He does it cause he just doesn't care. He views reality as a crude vile black joke and he's sees humanity as utterly worthless. And as far as "innocent" people go, there's no such thing. He believes that deep down everyone is monster just like he is and it only takes just one bad day to bring that monster out of anyone. So as far as he's concerned he's really the only sane one and he's just ahead of everyone else. No one, not Batman, not even Hugo Strange has ever truly figured him out. You can't fix what isn't broken. That's why. He's not insane. He's just evil. Simple as that
I want to learn can you tell me more about it and how to use this philosophy or knowledge in real life!?
"Because I heard it before, and it wasn't funny the first time."