While meditating he could kinda train his techniques... And about body, he was in super tiny steel cage that weight at least few hundred pounds with 2 giant rocks pushing him down. His body was under constant stress
Bro was literally unable to move for 20 years and just immediately kills 1000 rhinos and starts walking to another fight. Bro had no brakes and still nearly won
@@IDCSAO It is difficult to build a home around a heart that has never felt love. What is there left to protect if lethality is all you've ever been taught?
@@SomerandomShmuck he was actually about to become the dragon warrior. Oogway wanted to see how would he react if he was rejected the dragon scroll, bt instead of being humble and trying to improve himself, he became bitter
Also, his name is Tai Lung which translates to golden dragon, Shifu gave him that bloody name so of course he’s gonna have ambitions. Also, apparently they had to add Tai Lung attacking the village in anger because originally he just attacked Shifu and Oogway and people related with him too much 😂
This is something I wished they had acknowledged better. They never said Oogway did anything to help, so this old dude just watched as Shifu set his child up to fail, only to be the one to turn the kid down and use violence on him rather than helping him with the horrible life he was given. It took two decades and a severe beatdown for Shifu to apologize - but Oogway don't gaf cause that dude decided to run away from the problem HE CAUSED and could easily deal with.
@@littlemoth4956He is such a liked villain because his actions are justified. You can see why he is the villain, but see that he is also right from his angle. He was just a victim that wanted Justice, that turned to revenge as he grew bitter. He wanted the scroll, the validation he needed to tell himself that he is worthy of love. At first he did it to get his dad’s love, but now it is for him. And the scrolls lesson was that he was already good enough to love himself. Which just shattered him after all the energy he wasted on getting the scroll. I always hate downplaying people wronged as “lol daddy issues” and such. It is only comedic if you do not actually understand him and his perspective fully.
@@littlemoth4956The problem with most entertainment is that the villain is often right, but they make him do unnecessary evil things or leave out information that shows he is right. More because it is about selling a biased moral view. Like syndrome could easily be neutral or good with minor changes while having the same philosophy.
@@Mrfinch9999 He’s so wrong genre savvy that it’s actually quite sad; from his POV he is a Wuxian hero since his story is beat for beat a Wuxian heroes story. An orphan who is a natural at Martial arts and is trained by a master, at their best they are cast away and denied their destiny. After being cast away (in this case imprisoned) they get stronger than ever and on their way back they fight some of their old masters new students to prove just how strong the hero is before taking on their old master and the person who stole their rightful place. They win and take their destiny back. Unfortunately for him, he is not in a Wuxian story and he is not the hero
Everyone did this guy dirty. They raised him to be a fighter, fed him dreams of being the dragon warrior only to tell him he has too much ambition (which they put there to begin with). Of course he got mad. and going on a rampage was a bit much, but then they lock him away for 20 years, torturing him. Make no mistake, try kneeling holding two heavy boulders with needles in your back, unable to do or see anything new for 20 years, that's straight up torture. Then he finds out this mystical scroll he was taught to believe was the most important thing, the meaning to his life, is empty. It was all just some kind of dumb lesson, his whole life just falls to pieces. And then this legendary hero guy decided to straight up kill him. What a life.
holy shit the torture scene flew over my head, i havent seen this movie in a while so i didnt remember, nor did i think i got a good look if that’s what actually happened. that makes me even more sad for him. man. what an actually tragic character wtf dreamworks
@@Aurora.4500I wouldn’t say disapproval more like he really couldn’t say anything cause the face he made you can tell he wanted to say something about the decision but couldn’t which is why when he and tai fought he told tai “You weren’t meant to be the dragon warrior that was not my fault” which lets you know that decision wasn’t going to change.
The "legendary hero" who beat him had less than a weeks worth of training and was tired at the start of the fight because of stairs vs him who just escaped a highly fortified prison dedicated for him and beaten seasoned martial artist in a 5v1 all while not stopping to rest from the prison to the palace
“What do you mean the chameleon’s whole motivation was because she’s small and wasn’t able learn kungfu?! Then how do we explain the bug? Least my motivation makes sense”
@@digimonlover1632 yeah the motivations go from “feeling like you were denied your destiny” to “desperately trying to avoid your fate no matter the cost” to “feeling betrayed by a man you felt like a brother to” to “I’m small”
The explanation I saw was that she was too lazy to work as hard as Mantis did and that's the reason she got rejected by all the masters. But, because she's so self absorbed she was unable to recognize this and just made up some the whole "being small" thing.
Genuinely my favorite part is thinking about how he had literally zero idea who Po was or that the Dragon Warrior was a panda with minimal actual martial arts training. Imagine being M Bison and coming up to this legendary dude named Guile you heard about ready for the challenge of your life and he is some teenage stoner with almost no combat experience. Then imagine losing. That's what this is.
Imagine what Tai Lung would be capable of if he had still been actively pursuing his goal instead of being locked up. After 20 years with his arms steched apart and giant shell pieces spiked into his back. He just breaks the shell with a FLEX, still holding both giant boulders, then breaks his chains and engineers the most epic escape with every aspect being improvised in the moment. All of this after being completely immobilized for 20. Years. He would have been absolutely unstoppable.
He probably spent those 20 years PLANNING his escape, I don't think it was IMPROVISED... but still locked up without being able to teain, so DAMN he would be terrifying if he had a cell like Iroh had...
@@spiker.ortmann Truthfully why couldn't it have been both? I like to this it was a combination of the two, PLANNING, and improvised at the same time. Tai Lung may have thought of countless plans, for example a human brain, have about 4 sextillion thoughts at least potentially in your head. So Tai Lung waited, bided his time, and I'm sure what you said to be true, in the video, the Rhinos got lazy, and depending on how they bragged to him about how he would never escape, they showed off all of their tactics and weapons, so Tai Lung had a plan. But it wasn't completely planned, at every moment, during throughout the entire escape everything was on the fly, from the hand cuffs, shackles, spears, fighting through the fortress, to the bridge, and the explosions, was all bits and pieces of possible ways you would escape all. But now that I typed it out, Tai Lung wasn't a flexible thinker, or he wouldn't has had so much trouble with Po, who is flexible, adaptable, and open minded as one could be.
@@shadowreaper2011Bc its not like he ad a few months. Tai Lung had literally 20 years of doing literally absolutely nothing except plan to escape. After being immobilized and unable to move or do anything else, day in and day out for 2 whole decades. Every second of every day he could do nothing but spend his time planning his escape with all the knowledge of anything and everything the rhinos bragged about being why he cant escape. I dont think you grasp how long 20 years is, especially being all alone and unable to move and have any activities for that entire time. Hed have nothing better to do. So no, no reason to improvise if he can run through the same simulation every seconds of the day for 20 years and nothing else. There would be no improvising since conceivable very possibility would be planned for and expected in that tome. No movement, no activities, no social interactions except taunting and abuse from the guards. Minimal sound or talking.
In all fairness, I didn't say he never thought about it or planned anything. But the circumstances he was presented with in the midst of his escape is what he had to improvise with to adapt his strategy to. In every moment, he did that flawlessly for the sake of his escape. He improvised the application of the details of his escape as they played out based on the factors and circumstances he was given in the moment.
@assassincharizard If it were just a few months, yeah. But this time, no, he wouldnt need to improvise or adapt with. By the end of the entire 20 years, i remind you is a VERY long time, and with solitude and absolutely nothing else to do up to his escape, he'd know all their means of security to the pinpoint finest details. Hed have literally nothing else to do but observe, plan, amd simulate his escape from every conceivable angle and method. He just has too long and nothing else to do for otherwise to "go with the flow" and improvise. By then, aside from the feather being used as a key, nothing would be new or a surprise to Tai Lung.
Props to Ian McShane for blowing it out of the water as Tai Lung. He brought just the right amount of serious to the role to sell the emotional scenes while still being able to sell the humor of the lighter moments to get the kids to laugh. "He's a panda, you're a panda. What are you gonna do big guy? Sit on me?" helped humanize the character so much. He's not all generic anger or tragic loner, he's able to accept the ridiculousness of his circumstances.
I still feel like killing him was a bit much, he clearly was beat at that point and accepted defeat when the Wuxi finger threat was imminent. Then again, he DID tempt Po by saying he was bluffing. I wish there was some more funny banter between them.
I think it's important to remember that all of 4 seconds before this fight even started, Po was WINDED from running up the stairs. Yet somehow all of the toon force he pulls out his ass does NOT make him tired during this fight.
@@fightingmedialounge519 "upset" more like devastated from having wasted 20 years of your life training to the death each day, having your father tell you you're growing up to be the best warrior and having him turn his back on you because some ass-master turtle came and said "you are not worthy", and just giving up on you both as a pupil and as a son. Then again, you'll probably say something like "yeah, still no reason to attack them in turn" for lying you in the face and getting you in, just to see you suffer later. Just writing this for other people
@@XDrotkon upset and devastated are synonyms so.... I'd more say how it's interesting you don't really have a counter for him attacking innocent civilians.
@@fightingmedialounge519 I don't, because after hearing that writers pulled it out the necessity to make him look more "evil", with no connected or explained reason, or motivation in his character, there's no need to ponder on it, as it's not in-character
@RadXader the problem with the " not in character" argument is that the tai lung we spend most of the movie with is someone who spent twenty years in jail(even then we didn't know that much about him)Suffice to say he wouldn't be the exact same person after getting out
I think you're really underselling this. I don't think for *one* second Tai Lung assumes the rhino guards "miss" him with their shots. This prison was designed to contain him, and only him, nobody in their right mind would staff it with people who couldn't shoot straight. They don't *miss* their shots. You *dodge* their shots. Because you're Tai *fucking* Lung, the *TRUE* Dragon Warrior. The only mistake they made was thinking *only* 1000 men, a couple hundred ton boulders, an acupuncture restraint harness, a fortress, and a 10 story pit would be enough to stop you.
Tai Lung had a lot of close calls while escaping the prison, no other character in KP could have done what he did. They overdid it with the security and it wasn't enough
@@asdasede3491 "-Are you sure it isn't too much? -A whole prison for him, actively monitored and 24/7 rotation of our best guards? Maybe, but you can never be too sure -*20 years later* SEE!?"
If that feather never fell he would still be in prison. Plus there were at least one or two shots they missed and Tai just simply dodged or used the other the other shots to get himself free.
What redemption? The only thing that he did wrong was attack the valley of peace. But I'm not sure he was taught any better. Shifu straight up built him as a weapon.
@ajh22895 I don't think Tai Lung should be this one-dimensional character. People learn and reflect. Redemption it something that can be afforded to all but few accept or want.
@@vapecattI like the way he's a one-dimensional character, in part because it'd make his redemption really bloody easy. Tai Lung was a powerful manchild with a god complex and insane need for validation. But he's also very, VERY smart and adaptable. At the end of the first movie, he was overpowered, humbled, and taught that the reason he didn't receive validation was his own desperate need for it. Then he got a decade or so of timeout in a realm alongside a lot of (mostly chill) Kung fu masters. He had plenty of time to 1 - reflect that yeah, he kinda got owned fair and square 2 - he IS still a very powerful martial artist. But being great and being a god are two different things 3 - reflect on the meaning of the scroll I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if he came out of there still grumpy and aggressive, but already having made peace with his past and regretting his past actions.
Tai-lung was faield by shifu so badly. It dosent make what he did right but youd think someone like Shifu after hearing the news from Oogway wpuld have gone with Tai-lung to releive some stress in training and TEACH HIM TO MEDITATE and control himself to beckme better and better in hopes of one day fulfilling his wish.
Yeah I’ve always thought it was ironic that oogway says tai lung has darkness in his heart when shifu is the MOST spiteful and petty person in the entire movie.
@@bot4hire202 and Shifu didn't set out to become a dragon warrior. Oogway would've denied him the scroll too, but Shifu felt no need to even ask for it. And it's also clearly mentioned by Tigress that his pettiness and spitefulness mostly arose after the Tai Lung incident.
@@Forthro yeah that’s fair. I still think that if u give someone constant affirmation to their unparalleled genius, they’ll become narcissistic from it. No one’s born evil, they have to be taught that. I think the movie does a great job in making it the fault of all parties involved for Tai Lungs subsequent crash out. Bro was led by the nose for decades and then randomly told to go fuck himself because of something he MIGHT do in the future. I’d start geeking too.
@@bot4hire202 yes, that was Shifu's shortcoming. He was too focused on power and technicalities when training Tai Lung, being blinded by his talent, that he forgot to teach him many emotional aspects of Kung Fu, instead only fueling his ambitions. The denying of the scroll might have even been a final test by Oogway, before making Tai Lung a dragon warrior, which he failed. However, they are all adults after all, and adults are responsible for their own actions. We don't know exact sequence of events, but I suspect that Tai Lung spiraled into the rampage faster than anyone could've done anything. If he got defensive, angry or maybe even tried to take the scroll by force, I feel like Oogway could have given him the second chance. But if you are hurting innocent people in anger, that is mostly on you. And following the logic of Shifu's fault, you can say that Oogway is faulty for not correctly teaching his student how to be a master. While all of that is true, at the end of the day Tai Lung himself is responsible for his actions and who knows when else his temper would've overtook him, even without the scroll incident.
@@bot4hire202 I feel like Oogway denying Tai Lung the title of Dragon Warrior and letting him get the scroll would lead to the same outcome of "Wow, so I've been doing all of this for nothing?" since the scroll was empty anyway and Oogway knew that he'd crash out regardless
Genuinely wish Tai Lung would’ve been redeemed in movie 4. After being humbled in movie 1, having all of movie 2 to dwell on it. And being beaten by Kai in movie 3 only for Kai to then be defeated by Po, further hammering in the fact that you wouldn’t have been able to fulfill the role of dragon warrior. Would’ve been amazing for Tai Lung to go full circle and end up training the next dragon warrior. Seriously I feel like Tai Lung and what’s-her-face make a more interesting traveling duo than her and Po.
Its not even unreasonable, since he was not even killed, he was sent to the spirit realm by the finger hold. So him coming back from the spirit realm and actually living out his life after some redemption ark would have been a nice ending there.
@@TrixyTrixterit would have been so fitting for him to become the Shifu of the next generation. Just a better teacher since he knows what it is like to be a pupil who was failed by their sensei.
i mean, 17 years in the spirit realm reflecting on the failings of your life and likely getting into a few fights that are way above your ability was probably pretty humbling
@@cardescomedioses3674 My guess is the kung fu panda world operates on a closed system. Kai's soul was destroyed yes but it didn't mean he was completely gone. All it really implies is it is possible to have it reformed after awhile in the spirit realm but that might require collecting enough pieces of your own soul to do it.
@@BladeMasterIcarus Assuming that is the case, there's still no reason for Kai to bow to Po like he did. If Kai reformed again, whose to say he wouldn't try what he did in number three again? He's still a spirit being so all he would have to do is just gather power until he's ready to face Po again like he did with Oogway.
@@tekiyuyami6406 ya all po's previous enemies bowing before him doesn't make any sense. I guess they're thankful for getting their powers back but that's not genuine respect the movie presents it as. If anything that just makes them all want to train harder to kick his ass even harder
@@BladeMasterIcarus I think it was more of them acknowledging Po as superior. Like the Chameleon was able to pretty comfortably take all of their abilities and used all of them to fight Po and even that wasn't enough for her to beat Po.
Its even more tragic knowing that Kung Fu Panda 4 couldve been a redemption movie about Tai Lung. Right now its propably to late to do it, our only chance has passed.
I think Nomsy nailed it for the final scene: he's drunk on his own power, and it turns out Tai Lung is one of those weepy "I love you, man!" drunks. :D
6:37, What's probably the funniest part of all this is how underneath Tai Lung's menacing qualities, he's also this naive teenager, just like Po, with this fantastical set of expectations on what a legendary destiny looks like. The main difference is that Po's expectations initially hold him back from achieving true greatness, something he learns and overcomes, while Tai Lung never does.
@esteban8471 yeah, but if he got there first he would have gotten that power. Tai Lung is legit left out of Po having to motivate himself to grab a scroll that had no power
@@bleh4352 That's what I meant to say. From Tai Lung's perspective, he thought the scroll was giving power to Po when it wasn't that serious at all. Po just visualized food to motivate himself.
@@esteban8471 it's a great hint of their different perspective. Tai Lung's only motivation was that scroll, he assumed that was all that mattered while Po had to visualize it as something that he enjoys instead. Po is able to motivate himself while Tai Lung is only motivated to have something with no real significance, and that shows when he's quickly less destructive after seeing the scroll was blank. There was no motivation for him anymore while Po still had plenty.
Not really. When he was rejected he went on a rampage against innocent people. Can you imagine Po doing that? Tai Lung was never meant to be the dragon warrior. He did deserve a redemption though.
Oolong just didnt believe he had the mental fortitude and maturity to be Dragon Warrior, which he proved to be correct as he unlashes his rage on innocent villagers. That being said I still believe they did him really dirty since birth (his name literally means Golden Dragon)
are people in this comment section justifying his actions? like the reasons are valid but it doesn't justify his actions, this is like D16 again 💀 if he was the "true" dragon warrior he wouldn't have harmed the villagers in the first place with a massive ego, of course that ego wasn't his fault in the first place but that doesn't matter it still isn't fitting to be a dragon warrior.
To say you wouldn't have this type of reaction after being gaslit for 20 years of your life and then the reason you were being raised by said people is given to someone else all while in isolation is wild.
"And that's why you always frequently check anything to do with emergencies, fire extinguishers and everything, otherwise things like this will happen. And a snow leopard will come down and throw explosives in your face." I had always wondered what happened to people who failed safety training at work.
@@SoakieCat no if they didnt do the check then the feather would never be used as a lockpick. Because one often finds his destiny on the path they take to avoid it ~ master oogway
@@spbot2 They checked the wrong kind of security, had they checked the fuses on the dynamite it would've been okay, instead the checked the security of the lock on his back
You got to imagine that Tai Lung has probably mentally went over his escape plan thousands of times, I imagine to the point to where it became a completely accurate prediction, like some shit out of the Sherlock Holmes boxing scene, but on a logarithmic scale. Except for when they blew up the stalactites. he couldn’t hear the explosives while restrained, and hadn’t planned for it, surprising him.
Tai Lung must be the most mistreated character in fiction His dad spent his whole life telling him that he was going to be the dragon warrior and he spent every day training as hard as he could just to finally be so quickly brushed aside by master Hogway. And when he, while still being a TEENAGER mind you, went on a tantrum destroying stuff and attacking people their solution for that was to PERMANENTLY seal him away with no chance of redemption and not even a chance to ever being free again. And his dad? THE MAN WHO SPENT HIS WHOLE LIFE TELLING HIM TO TRAIN AND BECOME THE DRAGON WARRIOR? HE DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TRYING TO DEFEND HIM! NOT EVEN A MASTER HOGWAY PLEASE GIVE HIM A CHANCE. Nothing. He was thrown away like garbage. Mr cogway: See?!? I knew he would turn ebil. :)
The look that shifu gave Tai Lung when Oogway denied him (1:07) probably hurt the most. Shifu just.. Accepted it. Took him 3 seconds to give up on him. Made no effort to defend him. Just dropped tai lung like a used tissue.
The movie has some of the best art, soundtrack, and voice acting ever but we can all admit the story is rather absurd. Yes, even the religious people. They can also recognize the absurdity without getting upset about it. It's part of the thing.
Forgot to add that while you were chilling in the spirit realm then a bull person came up to you and challenged you in the fight and claimed that he's gonna steal your chi.
I love how it's actually confirmed that po goddamn killed him. Like, before it was kind of nebulous, but being pulled from the spirit realm means that finger hold actually killed him.
@@durratulaishah3703 What? Bury someone alive? I looked it up and the finger hold is just based off of various fantastical moves from Chinese literature. They were called the “touch of death” and were supposed ways of hitting usually non-lethal parts of the body that led to death.
@@TheBluePhoenix008 Tbh at least Tai had actual talent and skill and his entire life was nothing but hard work. That's why he snapped when all that work for the goal was denied, and made it essencially wasted lifetime in that moment. ;'D But i agree that movement was a shitshow.
Once Kai and Po's proper fight starts near the end of Kung Fu Panda 3, Kai calls back all of the jade zombies, and he grows in size, implying he gains physical power when the chi of the warrior is within him. So the reason he didn't use Tai Lung, is probably because doing so meant he would be almost powerless against any attack that came his way
@@Nomsynho I'd honestly say 2 was better than 1; Shen is nearly as good as tai lung as a villain and the general story is way more serious. Plus po facing down the entire fleet is still probably my favorite moment from the series
@@geoffzuo9831it’s one of the best moments in any animated film. The “inner peace” moment was beyond what even Puss v Death from The Last Wish could do… Dreamworks has done so many shows, movies, and other pieces yet imo they can never outdo Shen and Po’s rivalry. Po has no idea who Shen is yet Shen knows basically everything about him… just blessed storywritting.
@@DeathMessenger1988 not really, like the whole manipulating the senate and filling it's ranks with his goons is still canon. Also the assasination attempts, the orcastrated war together with Dooku, it's all canon. He still did a hell of a lot. In fact, only the way he became senator and such a powerful sith lord, and him possibly creating Anakin are non canon stuff
"Not to worry we're still flying half a ship" "(HOW ARE THEY JOKING AT A TIME LIKE THIS THE SHIP WASN'T SUPPOSED TO FALL TO THE PLANET WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! ALL THESE YEARS OF PLANNING JUST TO DIE WITH THESE BUFFOONS!)"
@@Reorganiser Let me repeat and clarify: NO. DISNEY CANON. BULLSHIT. TCW IS FINE, BUT *_NO. FUCKING. DISNEY. CANON._* Yes, Palpatine did a lot of work to get the Senate and military on his side, orchestrate the Clone Wars and manipulate both sides, but mostly it was the Republic and Jedi's own eons-old flaws that doomed them.
I love over the top prisons designed only to hold one person. Star Wars the old republic has a really good one. It’s for a powerful force user. He’s in a chair, bound by some kinda electricity generator that zaps him if he tries to lean forward for lift his arms up. Also, there’s a ray shield around him. Also, it’s on a space station so there’s just a space between his platform and the observation ring that leads outside (space). And finally, there’s a bunch of droids, some of which are big AT droids
@@goldenfiberwheat238 You could argue napoleon being stuck on st. helena fits this considering if he ever got back to France there was a very real chance he'd start more shit in europe.
To be fair, I also destroyed my village when my parents gave me a BMW instead of a Mercedes on my birthday. I don't understand why Oogway was so unreasonable.
one of the recurring tropes in kung fu movies is that the master and superior opponent has the superior balance, and it's portraied perfectly here with tai lung making the bridge shift and tigress struggling to keep her stance while he's staking a breather
Not to be the next dragon warrior, but to be the one to train the next dragon warrior imo. Tai was not killed by Poo, just sent to the spirit realm so returning and living his life again in the mortal realm is not unreasonable. Could have been humbled over so many defeats and have realized he would have not succeeded as the dragon warrior but with the chance back in the mortal real can train others to be even better than he was.
It's even sadder when you realize Tai was denied the dragon scroll because he wouldn't have accepted the fact that it had nothing, after being tortured and robbed of your childhood for years. But it would've saved 20 years of additional suffering and rage if they had just told him what it was
you missed the bit about being humiliated by the panda, and then some random ox dude cosplaying Kratos but with green swords comes along and just turns you into a green pebble ....
I feel bad for the man, he took life and becoming the dragon warrior so seriously only to end up rejected, sent to jail for 20 years, then learn that the one who replaced u is a fat panda who effortlessly kicks your ass, before showing you that your whole life purpose was meaningless and the dragon warrior means nothing, then sends you to a empty wasteland for years until your powers get sucked away by a tiny chameleon, then thrown in a cage to watch 3 clowns have a boring fight with each other, and you realize the fox is gonna be the next dragon warrior, and just realize that the whole world went to waste and that oogway was an idiot.
Madagascar 3 from Captain Chantel DuBois' Perspective. Just the fact that her singing got her task force out of casts with such a straight face suggests that she's done this before. Also Happy Thanksgiving.
the most ironic thing to me is that in the end its all because shifu panicked and sent the goose to inform that the rhino prison fortress might not be safe enough, which led the feather to drop right infront of tai lungs face - if you desperately try to prevent something to happen, it will most likey happen because of it
When I fenced competitively, I once heard someone say “the best never fears the second best, he fears the worst” because nothing can prepare you for what the worst fencer in existence might try and do in a bout. And it’s true here as well with Tai Lung being the best a Kung Fu and Po being the worst. How the fuck is Tai Lung supposed to prepare or anticipate any of the shit Po does in that fight?
Part of why "beginner's luck" is a thing. The experts know how to counter the meta, proper techniques that everyone uses, but beginners don't use the meta.
He didn't want an apology from his master, he wanted the power, plus the love and respect of his master more than an apology. Imagine your strong extremely strict father who has treated you like his proudest accomplishment, then he tells you he's sorry for doing it after you get kicked out.
Definitely mind controlled on the end, kung fu panda 5 will reveal the fox was actually a mind controller and pretended everything to steal the green stick from po
I really like the implications that sometime during Tai Lung's journey back to the Jade Palace. He had gotten hold of rumors of how the "Dragon Warrior fell from the sky in a ball of fire" completely unaware of the truth of said rumor until the final battle. Its likely that those rumors had gotten lost in translation towards the more furthur out villages. Like a long game of telephone.
Holy crap even without the whole thing with the Dragon Scroll, if I had been completely immobilized in a horribly uncomfortable position for TWENTY YEARS I'd probably be willing to commit omnicide to get my revenge.
Kung Fu Panda is one of the best movies ever made, it's jokes that seem surface level are actually deep enough to where it doesn't take away from the story. Like, what the victor of the battle came down to in the end was Po being fat. However this wasn't just a gag, it makes sense as his nerves were already established to be difficult to find by Mantis early in the movie. Also his anatomy is unique as an animal Tai Lung has probably never even fought before. So imagine being Tai Lung, the aspiring greatest martial artist in history, getting defeated randomly by someone who assumably comes from a super peaceful background (I'm guessing the Panda genocide happened while he was locked up, as he didn't seem too phased by the fact Po was a Panda, Tai Lung was in prison for 20 years and the Pandas genocide happened 20 years before Kung Fu Panda 3 so it's entirely possible). It's funny if you don't think about it too hard, but it would be such a horrible feeling lol. The lesson that Tai Lung didn't even understand in the end, the fact that being the dragon warrior had more to do with accepting the meaning of the scroll/having inner clarity rather than the literal "powers" it gave you, or the destruction you can cause, led to him having an extremely bitter death.
Is nobody gonna talk about how this guy is talking with such a calm and peaceful tone the whole time? We're talking about Tai Lung. There is no calm or peace.
To be fair, Tigres wanted to be the dragon warrior and was rejected despite being mere seconds away from being titled as such. You don’t see her going and massacring innocent civilians
"Boy you are gonna give something a gool ol stroke in a minute, because in twenty years of your hands being tied behind your back, something has not been stroked." 🤣🤣🤣
also during the fight with po tai lung is probably also thinking that the only reason why he's losing is because po is getting powered up from the scroll
Personally, I think Tai Lung was almost considering taking Shifu's apology. But at that point, he had been through too much, had done too many things, and had been stewing in his own anger for 20 years, with smart ass rhinos mocking and ridiculing you whenever they get bored- which is probably a lot of the time since they don't have much ELSE to do. He KIND of KNEW Shifu was RIGHT, and this all was what he REALLY needed deep down. I always think of Tai Lung as being basically the polar opposite to Po, but also being what Po COULD have been had he a different upbringing. While Shifu was PROUD of Tai Lung, he had nothing but vitriol for Po. While Tai Lung had a natural talent for kung fu, Po was just a fanboy. And Shifu poured so much of his pride into Tai Lung that he became a monster- yet with Po, he found out the answer was changing how he approached his training.
Yeah. I’d normally fault Shifu for filling Tai Lung’s mind with dreams and building up his ego to dangerous levels, but then I realized that Shifu himself didn’t have much humility and gradually grew as a person due to training Po.
I was actually practicing Kung Fu when the first Kung Fu Panda came out. As a fully grown adult I watched the movie three times in a day and a half. I was always impressed that Tai Lung didn’t lose his strength to muscle atrophy while imprisoned. He must have been secretly training that entire time to preserve his condition.
@4:08 The speculation that storm troopers have bad aim is a common misconception. It was intentional, Darth Vader would have told them to miss intentionally on the Death Star in A New Hope so he could track their escape and lead them to the rebel base. Obi-Wan even says to Luke towards the beginning of the movie that "Only Storm Troopers are this precise".
The entire point of the dragon scroll is Tai Lung's mentality. You are only what you are. Tai Lung went and rampaged when he didn't get what he wanted instead of going out and being a hero. His only ambition was to be the best, not to be a dragon warrior. Imagine if he went out and just, started acting like the dragon warrior, forget the stupid scroll. Be the best anyway. Go fight crime, go prove you are the best by creating an era of peace across the world with your power. But no. It all has to come back to that turtle and the red panda, the need for validation in a scroll made by a turtle you hate. What could have been expected other than nothing?
kung fu panda 4 story without awkwafina re-write: Po came home (valley of peace) after journeying the land as a dragon warrior completing many quests. he found out that his father Ping was dying. in his deathbed, he selfishly requested Po to continue his family legacy (the noodle shop) tho he wasnt really forceful about it. After ping's death, Po became split whether he should continue being a dragon warrior or fulfill his father's wishes. he felt he owed Ping that much. So Po decided to choose a new dragon warrior successor like oogway once did.
Po saw many talented warriors including shapeshifting chameleon, powerful buffalo, agile and cunning fox displaying their talents. his finger wasn't pointing at any of them to be the next dragon warrior. But Po wanted to fulfil Ping's wish, and put smiles back on the faces of little piglets who are already asking about the famed noodle shop. So po against his judgement handed over the title of dragon warrior to the chameleon. Then po retired from the entire dragon warrior business to continue his father's legacy even taking on many rabbit apprentices in the arts noodle making and the 'secret' sauce for the soup. The newly anointed dragon warrior chameleon was good in the beginning, but started to become corrupted with power. 'dragon' is a part of reptilian race. the superior ones. her belief was that reptiles should be the ruling class in the valley! Oogway was a fool to give his title to a fat panda. Chameleon mastered many kung fu moves, her favorite Iron Fist technique, which she uses her tongue instead of a fist to club the enemy like a hook. She even evolve it by incorporating poison to the technique, which she now calls it poison fist.
Chamilion started building a big tower at the valley and started training many lizard guards. Then she and her army started oppressing the citizens of the peaceful valley. Po feeling responsible for his action and convinced by his other father Li, went back to challenge chameleon and tried to put her back in the right path. As Po was about to defeat Chameleon, she shapeshifted into mister ping! how can Po strike his own father! With guilt ridden, Po held back. But chameleon took that opportunity to strike Po down, but Li came in just in time with speed fueled by a father's love. Li saved his family from Lord Shen once, and this time, the old panda yet again launched himself forward to save his son! but Chameleon poisoned fist claimed his life though Po is safely pushed off to the side.
Po came to his senses and took his father's body and escape the tower. Po tried to find help as fast as possible, but no herbs can save Li from his fate. After both of his father deaths, Po was plunged into depression, as chameleon continues to oppress the people! The two other dragon warrior candidates, the buffalo and the fox took up the gauntlet to fight the lizard goons after seeing so much damage caused by them. The lizard goons were no match against the combined might of the two dragon warrior candidates. Chameleon stepped in to fight the two warriors in 2v1 match up. Chameleon noticed the fight wasn't in her favor, and the buffalo was extremely strong but not that smart. So she shapeshifted into the fox to fool the buffalo. The buffalo who was unable to differentiate the real fox from the fake fox, struck down the real fox instead! In the massive confusion, the chameleon in turn struck down the buffalo from behind.
Shifu now very old and retired warrior decided to show up one day and made fun of Po and told him to seek the wisdom of the cherry tree. When Po arrived at the cherry tree, it was being defiled by a group of lizard thugs. Po made short work of those thugs, then when he asked Oogway, there was no answer. When he looked over the once peaceful valley, it was now plagued with torment. Po attuned his dragon warrior senses again and understood what he must do. He mustered his courage and went back to the tower once more. There he challenged chameleon again, and she deployed the same tactics as before. But this time, Po had made peace with his senses and was able sense her Qi flow. Po then defeated her and took the Dragon Warrior title back. After Po gave a long lecture to chameleon, she was then put in chains for all her crimes and lives she took. As the story ended, Po can be seen meditating at the grave site of both of his fathers finally made peace with his destiny.
@jay429429 ... guessing that's sarcasm, which means u already knew, which means I guess probably should re read the parts that indicate past tense, meaning u no longer believe that... however, if that is the case was being sarcastic necessary?
This makes me realize that Oogway probably didn't actually see "darkness in his heart" or whatever, but just realized he gave Shifu the wrong lesson plans. Really the entire thing has a ton of false advertising when you think about it. "Dragon warrior?" That 100% sounds like a program to become the greatest fighter of all time, when in fact its basically just therapy. Tai Lung could probably sue
3:32 , you are completely missing the Oogwei's whole point about destiny in kung fu panda. "There are no accidents". "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it" - as in sending the duck to check on the prison only to help him escape.
If panda’s are known for their passivity, they would be PERFECT dragon warriors. They would not have an active rage or ambition that could become dangerous as it is uncontrollable!
Something that I feel is important that was left out of this video: Tai Lung, in between his first defeat and the events of Kung Fu Panda 3, had to fight and was defeated by Kai, as we see him as one of the jade medallions Kai has in his possession. So there was definitely a decent amount of time, even in Spirit Realm terms, between his defeat and when the Chameleon brought him back. So the way he acts at the end, with saying Oogway was right and bowing to Po could have been (at least partially) the result of some off-screen character development that happened during that time. At the very least, after losing to Kai, he’d have to accept that he wasn’t actually the unbeatable (except for that one time with the panda) warrior that he thought he was.
Hasn't trained in 20 years, and was still a menace
While meditating he could kinda train his techniques...
And about body, he was in super tiny steel cage that weight at least few hundred pounds with 2 giant rocks pushing him down. His body was under constant stress
Valid point
Tai Lung: 20 years involuntary semen retention
Po: 20 years involuntary semen retention but with a crush
Ring rust isn't real.
Muscle memory perhaps?
Bro was literally unable to move for 20 years and just immediately kills 1000 rhinos and starts walking to another fight. Bro had no brakes and still nearly won
Tell me he’s NOT a dragon warrior bro, like I swear there’s must’ve been a mistake 💀🙏🏻
@@SomerandomShmuck he was all offense, while kung fu is all about balance
@@IDCSAO It is difficult to build a home around a heart that has never felt love. What is there left to protect if lethality is all you've ever been taught?
@@SomerandomShmuck he was actually about to become the dragon warrior. Oogway wanted to see how would he react if he was rejected the dragon scroll, bt instead of being humble and trying to improve himself, he became bitter
He DID win... just... his reward was not what he expected
Also, his name is Tai Lung which translates to golden dragon, Shifu gave him that bloody name so of course he’s gonna have ambitions.
Also, apparently they had to add Tai Lung attacking the village in anger because originally he just attacked Shifu and Oogway and people related with him too much 😂
Ya. I can see why they did that 😂
This is something I wished they had acknowledged better. They never said Oogway did anything to help, so this old dude just watched as Shifu set his child up to fail, only to be the one to turn the kid down and use violence on him rather than helping him with the horrible life he was given.
It took two decades and a severe beatdown for Shifu to apologize - but Oogway don't gaf cause that dude decided to run away from the problem HE CAUSED and could easily deal with.
@@littlemoth4956He is such a liked villain because his actions are justified. You can see why he is the villain, but see that he is also right from his angle.
He was just a victim that wanted Justice, that turned to revenge as he grew bitter.
He wanted the scroll, the validation he needed to tell himself that he is worthy of love. At first he did it to get his dad’s love, but now it is for him.
And the scrolls lesson was that he was already good enough to love himself. Which just shattered him after all the energy he wasted on getting the scroll.
I always hate downplaying people wronged as “lol daddy issues” and such. It is only comedic if you do not actually understand him and his perspective fully.
@@littlemoth4956The problem with most entertainment is that the villain is often right, but they make him do unnecessary evil things or leave out information that shows he is right.
More because it is about selling a biased moral view.
Like syndrome could easily be neutral or good with minor changes while having the same philosophy.
@@Mrfinch9999 He’s so wrong genre savvy that it’s actually quite sad; from his POV he is a Wuxian hero since his story is beat for beat a Wuxian heroes story.
An orphan who is a natural at Martial arts and is trained by a master, at their best they are cast away and denied their destiny. After being cast away (in this case imprisoned) they get stronger than ever and on their way back they fight some of their old masters new students to prove just how strong the hero is before taking on their old master and the person who stole their rightful place. They win and take their destiny back. Unfortunately for him, he is not in a Wuxian story and he is not the hero
Everyone did this guy dirty. They raised him to be a fighter, fed him dreams of being the dragon warrior only to tell him he has too much ambition (which they put there to begin with).
Of course he got mad.
and going on a rampage was a bit much, but then they lock him away for 20 years, torturing him. Make no mistake, try kneeling holding two heavy boulders with needles in your back, unable to do or see anything new for 20 years, that's straight up torture.
Then he finds out this mystical scroll he was taught to believe was the most important thing, the meaning to his life, is empty. It was all just some kind of dumb lesson, his whole life just falls to pieces.
And then this legendary hero guy decided to straight up kill him.
What a life.
And the fact that shifu didn't support him after he was rejected.... Shifu just straight up gave a look of disapproval and left poor guy was stumped
holy shit the torture scene flew over my head, i havent seen this movie in a while so i didnt remember, nor did i think i got a good look if that’s what actually happened. that makes me even more sad for him. man. what an actually tragic character wtf dreamworks
@@Aurora.4500I wouldn’t say disapproval more like he really couldn’t say anything cause the face he made you can tell he wanted to say something about the decision but couldn’t which is why when he and tai fought he told tai “You weren’t meant to be the dragon warrior that was not my fault” which lets you know that decision wasn’t going to change.
The "legendary hero" who beat him had less than a weeks worth of training and was tired at the start of the fight because of stairs vs him who just escaped a highly fortified prison dedicated for him and beaten seasoned martial artist in a 5v1 all while not stopping to rest from the prison to the palace
Effort vs talent@@37Jhian
“What do you mean the chameleon’s whole motivation was because she’s small and wasn’t able learn kungfu?! Then how do we explain the bug? Least my motivation makes sense”
Was she barred from learning king fu because of that or what?
You mean Mantis?, also master shifu is a kungfu master and he's definitely smaller than the chameleon, there's also viper as well????
@ yeah, I don’t know if the writer or director just forgot or something along those lines. It gets even weirder if we include master chicken
@@digimonlover1632 yeah the motivations go from “feeling like you were denied your destiny” to “desperately trying to avoid your fate no matter the cost” to “feeling betrayed by a man you felt like a brother to” to “I’m small”
The explanation I saw was that she was too lazy to work as hard as Mantis did and that's the reason she got rejected by all the masters. But, because she's so self absorbed she was unable to recognize this and just made up some the whole "being small" thing.
The first thing Tai Lung does after getting free is breathing which means the arrowpuncture made it so difficult to even breathe.
Bro dodged those king sized bastilla shots while winded
@@celldh0825 for TWENTY YEARS
Tai LUNG 💀
I love that detail.
First thing.... breathe 😮
i havent seen the movie but does that mean some of the martial arts in this universe have breathing related powers like hamon from jjba?
Genuinely my favorite part is thinking about how he had literally zero idea who Po was or that the Dragon Warrior was a panda with minimal actual martial arts training. Imagine being M Bison and coming up to this legendary dude named Guile you heard about ready for the challenge of your life and he is some teenage stoner with almost no combat experience. Then imagine losing. That's what this is.
That's what makes him legendary. :P
Well, if you look at the movie from a 3rd perspective. It's Jack Black trying to stay relevant for a few movies
M. Bison: _Gets his ass handed to him_
M. Bison: Maybe I _should_ go home and be a family man…
M Bison really fell off since biblical times.
@wildfire9280
*_w h a t_*
The fight of dragon warriors: Hasn't fought for 20 years vs has been learning for less than a year.
It’s like Mike Tyson vs Jake paul
@@goldenfiberwheat238 You, sir, are a genius! How come I didn't notice that?
@@pedrolinathetropicaldragon5481 idk maybe you didn’t watch it
That reminds me of that yakuza meme "10 years in the joint"
@@ІгорЧекерес "10 years in the pussy made you a fucking joint!"
Imagine what Tai Lung would be capable of if he had still been actively pursuing his goal instead of being locked up. After 20 years with his arms steched apart and giant shell pieces spiked into his back. He just breaks the shell with a FLEX, still holding both giant boulders, then breaks his chains and engineers the most epic escape with every aspect being improvised in the moment. All of this after being completely immobilized for 20. Years. He would have been absolutely unstoppable.
He probably spent those 20 years PLANNING his escape, I don't think it was IMPROVISED... but still locked up without being able to teain, so DAMN he would be terrifying if he had a cell like Iroh had...
@@spiker.ortmann Truthfully why couldn't it have been both? I like to this it was a combination of the two, PLANNING, and improvised at the same time. Tai Lung may have thought of countless plans, for example a human brain, have about 4 sextillion thoughts at least potentially in your head. So Tai Lung waited, bided his time, and I'm sure what you said to be true, in the video, the Rhinos got lazy, and depending on how they bragged to him about how he would never escape, they showed off all of their tactics and weapons, so Tai Lung had a plan. But it wasn't completely planned, at every moment, during throughout the entire escape everything was on the fly, from the hand cuffs, shackles, spears, fighting through the fortress, to the bridge, and the explosions, was all bits and pieces of possible ways you would escape all. But now that I typed it out, Tai Lung wasn't a flexible thinker, or he wouldn't has had so much trouble with Po, who is flexible, adaptable, and open minded as one could be.
@@shadowreaper2011Bc its not like he ad a few months. Tai Lung had literally 20 years of doing literally absolutely nothing except plan to escape. After being immobilized and unable to move or do anything else, day in and day out for 2 whole decades. Every second of every day he could do nothing but spend his time planning his escape with all the knowledge of anything and everything the rhinos bragged about being why he cant escape. I dont think you grasp how long 20 years is, especially being all alone and unable to move and have any activities for that entire time. Hed have nothing better to do. So no, no reason to improvise if he can run through the same simulation every seconds of the day for 20 years and nothing else. There would be no improvising since conceivable very possibility would be planned for and expected in that tome. No movement, no activities, no social interactions except taunting and abuse from the guards. Minimal sound or talking.
In all fairness, I didn't say he never thought about it or planned anything. But the circumstances he was presented with in the midst of his escape is what he had to improvise with to adapt his strategy to. In every moment, he did that flawlessly for the sake of his escape. He improvised the application of the details of his escape as they played out based on the factors and circumstances he was given in the moment.
@assassincharizard If it were just a few months, yeah. But this time, no, he wouldnt need to improvise or adapt with. By the end of the entire 20 years, i remind you is a VERY long time, and with solitude and absolutely nothing else to do up to his escape, he'd know all their means of security to the pinpoint finest details. Hed have literally nothing else to do but observe, plan, amd simulate his escape from every conceivable angle and method. He just has too long and nothing else to do for otherwise to "go with the flow" and improvise. By then, aside from the feather being used as a key, nothing would be new or a surprise to Tai Lung.
Props to Ian McShane for blowing it out of the water as Tai Lung. He brought just the right amount of serious to the role to sell the emotional scenes while still being able to sell the humor of the lighter moments to get the kids to laugh. "He's a panda, you're a panda. What are you gonna do big guy? Sit on me?" helped humanize the character so much. He's not all generic anger or tragic loner, he's able to accept the ridiculousness of his circumstances.
I still feel like killing him was a bit much, he clearly was beat at that point and accepted defeat when the Wuxi finger threat was imminent. Then again, he DID tempt Po by saying he was bluffing. I wish there was some more funny banter between them.
I think it's important to remember that all of 4 seconds before this fight even started, Po was WINDED from running up the stairs. Yet somehow all of the toon force he pulls out his ass does NOT make him tired during this fight.
Adrenaline is a helluva drug.
Tbf, it is a LOT of stairs
Bro those stairs are a force on a different scale.
Going downstairs gives him back the energy lol
Po nearly lost to stairs, but Tai Lung was just mid.
Fighting Po must've been like opening Smash and forgetting to turn the items off.
Increased food drops
F*cking golden hammer...
Would tai lung be kazuya and po be a giant k rool?
@@Themoo_atcows Po would be king dedede
@@RalseiDRsocoolWOW but what about k rool belly armor?
Personally I think it's more a tragedy then a comedy. Though they say there's a thin line between humour and Misery.
Agreed I thought the same
Wait, there’s a difference?
Personally i think people give Tai Lung to much credit of being a sympathetic villian.
@jojorose648 "Life is a tragedy in close-up and a comedy in long-shot"
tragedy and comedy are not misery and humor, tragedy is when the characters get what they do not deserve and comedy is when they get what they do
So moral of the story is "Work hard. Be yourself. Embrace your destiny... Unless you are Tai Lung in which case go f$#@ yourself."
Also, probably shouldn't attack people because you're upset. I'd think that's a fun fact to remember.
@@fightingmedialounge519 "upset"
more like devastated from having wasted 20 years of your life training to the death each day, having your father tell you you're growing up to be the best warrior and having him turn his back on you because some ass-master turtle came and said "you are not worthy", and just giving up on you both as a pupil and as a son.
Then again, you'll probably say something like "yeah, still no reason to attack them in turn" for lying you in the face and getting you in, just to see you suffer later. Just writing this for other people
@@XDrotkon upset and devastated are synonyms so.... I'd more say how it's interesting you don't really have a counter for him attacking innocent civilians.
@@fightingmedialounge519 I don't, because after hearing that writers pulled it out the necessity to make him look more "evil", with no connected or explained reason, or motivation in his character, there's no need to ponder on it, as it's not in-character
@RadXader the problem with the " not in character" argument is that the tai lung we spend most of the movie with is someone who spent twenty years in jail(even then we didn't know that much about him)Suffice to say he wouldn't be the exact same person after getting out
"Our battle will be legendary!" just not in the way he expects lmao
Shifu: Tai lung has escaped!
Oogway: aight I'm out
Ahaha peaceful tortoise 😂
Shifu: Tai Lung has escaped!
Oogway: Xue hua piao piao (disappears in a cloud of petals)
I think you're really underselling this.
I don't think for *one* second Tai Lung assumes the rhino guards "miss" him with their shots. This prison was designed to contain him, and only him, nobody in their right mind would staff it with people who couldn't shoot straight.
They don't *miss* their shots.
You *dodge* their shots. Because you're Tai *fucking* Lung, the *TRUE* Dragon Warrior.
The only mistake they made was thinking *only* 1000 men, a couple hundred ton boulders, an acupuncture restraint harness, a fortress, and a 10 story pit would be enough to stop you.
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Tai Lung had a lot of close calls while escaping the prison, no other character in KP could have done what he did.
They overdid it with the security and it wasn't enough
@@see4881🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@asdasede3491 "-Are you sure it isn't too much?
-A whole prison for him, actively monitored and 24/7 rotation of our best guards? Maybe, but you can never be too sure
-*20 years later* SEE!?"
If that feather never fell he would still be in prison. Plus there were at least one or two shots they missed and Tai just simply dodged or used the other the other shots to get himself free.
Alternative title: explaining why the fourth movie should have focused on his redemption.
Edit: I started a war💀
What redemption? The only thing that he did wrong was attack the valley of peace. But I'm not sure he was taught any better. Shifu straight up built him as a weapon.
@ajh22895 I don't think Tai Lung should be this one-dimensional character. People learn and reflect. Redemption it something that can be afforded to all but few accept or want.
@@vapecattI like the way he's a one-dimensional character, in part because it'd make his redemption really bloody easy.
Tai Lung was a powerful manchild with a god complex and insane need for validation. But he's also very, VERY smart and adaptable.
At the end of the first movie, he was overpowered, humbled, and taught that the reason he didn't receive validation was his own desperate need for it. Then he got a decade or so of timeout in a realm alongside a lot of (mostly chill) Kung fu masters.
He had plenty of time to
1 - reflect that yeah, he kinda got owned fair and square
2 - he IS still a very powerful martial artist. But being great and being a god are two different things
3 - reflect on the meaning of the scroll
I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if he came out of there still grumpy and aggressive, but already having made peace with his past and regretting his past actions.
@@vapecatt Well it's hard to make a sword do anything other than stab and slice
@@jraff2735 Maybe so, but a blade can also be used to prepare food.
Tai-lung was faield by shifu so badly. It dosent make what he did right but youd think someone like Shifu after hearing the news from Oogway wpuld have gone with Tai-lung to releive some stress in training and TEACH HIM TO MEDITATE and control himself to beckme better and better in hopes of one day fulfilling his wish.
Yeah I’ve always thought it was ironic that oogway says tai lung has darkness in his heart when shifu is the MOST spiteful and petty person in the entire movie.
@@bot4hire202 and Shifu didn't set out to become a dragon warrior. Oogway would've denied him the scroll too, but Shifu felt no need to even ask for it. And it's also clearly mentioned by Tigress that his pettiness and spitefulness mostly arose after the Tai Lung incident.
@@Forthro yeah that’s fair. I still think that if u give someone constant affirmation to their unparalleled genius, they’ll become narcissistic from it. No one’s born evil, they have to be taught that. I think the movie does a great job in making it the fault of all parties involved for Tai Lungs subsequent crash out. Bro was led by the nose for decades and then randomly told to go fuck himself because of something he MIGHT do in the future. I’d start geeking too.
@@bot4hire202 yes, that was Shifu's shortcoming. He was too focused on power and technicalities when training Tai Lung, being blinded by his talent, that he forgot to teach him many emotional aspects of Kung Fu, instead only fueling his ambitions. The denying of the scroll might have even been a final test by Oogway, before making Tai Lung a dragon warrior, which he failed. However, they are all adults after all, and adults are responsible for their own actions. We don't know exact sequence of events, but I suspect that Tai Lung spiraled into the rampage faster than anyone could've done anything. If he got defensive, angry or maybe even tried to take the scroll by force, I feel like Oogway could have given him the second chance. But if you are hurting innocent people in anger, that is mostly on you. And following the logic of Shifu's fault, you can say that Oogway is faulty for not correctly teaching his student how to be a master. While all of that is true, at the end of the day Tai Lung himself is responsible for his actions and who knows when else his temper would've overtook him, even without the scroll incident.
@@bot4hire202 I feel like Oogway denying Tai Lung the title of Dragon Warrior and letting him get the scroll would lead to the same outcome of "Wow, so I've been doing all of this for nothing?" since the scroll was empty anyway and Oogway knew that he'd crash out regardless
Genuinely wish Tai Lung would’ve been redeemed in movie 4.
After being humbled in movie 1, having all of movie 2 to dwell on it.
And being beaten by Kai in movie 3 only for Kai to then be defeated by Po, further hammering in the fact that you wouldn’t have been able to fulfill the role of dragon warrior.
Would’ve been amazing for Tai Lung to go full circle and end up training the next dragon warrior.
Seriously I feel like Tai Lung and what’s-her-face make a more interesting traveling duo than her and Po.
Its not even unreasonable, since he was not even killed, he was sent to the spirit realm by the finger hold. So him coming back from the spirit realm and actually living out his life after some redemption ark would have been a nice ending there.
@@TrixyTrixterit would have been so fitting for him to become the Shifu of the next generation. Just a better teacher since he knows what it is like to be a pupil who was failed by their sensei.
@@willwh9228 That would have been perfect. Fkk.
i mean, 17 years in the spirit realm reflecting on the failings of your life and likely getting into a few fights that are way above your ability was probably pretty humbling
Agreed, I like to think Tai long, and shen got to find peace in the spirit realm, but... why does Kai still exist? Didn't his soul explode?
@@cardescomedioses3674 My guess is the kung fu panda world operates on a closed system. Kai's soul was destroyed yes but it didn't mean he was completely gone. All it really implies is it is possible to have it reformed after awhile in the spirit realm but that might require collecting enough pieces of your own soul to do it.
@@BladeMasterIcarus Assuming that is the case, there's still no reason for Kai to bow to Po like he did. If Kai reformed again, whose to say he wouldn't try what he did in number three again? He's still a spirit being so all he would have to do is just gather power until he's ready to face Po again like he did with Oogway.
@@tekiyuyami6406 ya all po's previous enemies bowing before him doesn't make any sense. I guess they're thankful for getting their powers back but that's not genuine respect the movie presents it as. If anything that just makes them all want to train harder to kick his ass even harder
@@BladeMasterIcarus I think it was more of them acknowledging Po as superior. Like the Chameleon was able to pretty comfortably take all of their abilities and used all of them to fight Po and even that wasn't enough for her to beat Po.
Its even more tragic knowing that Kung Fu Panda 4 couldve been a redemption movie about Tai Lung. Right now its propably to late to do it, our only chance has passed.
I think Nomsy nailed it for the final scene: he's drunk on his own power, and it turns out Tai Lung is one of those weepy "I love you, man!" drunks. :D
It was nice to see him though. He carried with him a vibe of "I have found peace" which felt good.
The Dragon Warrior *does* look like modern day Steve Segal though
😂😂😂
modern day jack black too
who te fek is that?
@@White_Night_Demonself-absorbed washed up joke of an actor
@White_Night_Demon stupid guy that made a career by making people think he's good as Kung fu and karate legends
6:37, What's probably the funniest part of all this is how underneath Tai Lung's menacing qualities, he's also this naive teenager, just like Po, with this fantastical set of expectations on what a legendary destiny looks like.
The main difference is that Po's expectations initially hold him back from achieving true greatness, something he learns and overcomes, while Tai Lung never does.
I keep forgetting Ty Lung doesn't see the cookie conjuring as Po climbs😂😂
He thought the scroll was giving Po power. It wasn't that deep.
@esteban8471 yeah, but if he got there first he would have gotten that power. Tai Lung is legit left out of Po having to motivate himself to grab a scroll that had no power
@@bleh4352 That's what I meant to say. From Tai Lung's perspective, he thought the scroll was giving power to Po when it wasn't that serious at all. Po just visualized food to motivate himself.
@@esteban8471 it's a great hint of their different perspective. Tai Lung's only motivation was that scroll, he assumed that was all that mattered while Po had to visualize it as something that he enjoys instead. Po is able to motivate himself while Tai Lung is only motivated to have something with no real significance, and that shows when he's quickly less destructive after seeing the scroll was blank. There was no motivation for him anymore while Po still had plenty.
Tai Lung was truly done dirty fr. Mans was legit the real dragon warrior but lost to plot amour and the power of friendship
Not really. When he was rejected he went on a rampage against innocent people. Can you imagine Po doing that? Tai Lung was never meant to be the dragon warrior. He did deserve a redemption though.
Oolong just didnt believe he had the mental fortitude and maturity to be Dragon Warrior, which he proved to be correct as he unlashes his rage on innocent villagers. That being said I still believe they did him really dirty since birth (his name literally means Golden Dragon)
are people in this comment section justifying his actions? like the reasons are valid but it doesn't justify his actions, this is like D16 again 💀 if he was the "true" dragon warrior he wouldn't have harmed the villagers in the first place with a massive ego, of course that ego wasn't his fault in the first place but that doesn't matter it still isn't fitting to be a dragon warrior.
To say you wouldn't have this type of reaction after being gaslit for 20 years of your life and then the reason you were being raised by said people is given to someone else all while in isolation is wild.
what plot armour?
"And that's why you always frequently check anything to do with emergencies, fire extinguishers and everything, otherwise things like this will happen. And a snow leopard will come down and throw explosives in your face." I had always wondered what happened to people who failed safety training at work.
Euhm. The snow leopard came out because they did a check???
@@spbot2 The snow leopard came out because they didn't do the correct security checks, it ALWAYS happens
@@SoakieCat no if they didnt do the check then the feather would never be used as a lockpick. Because one often finds his destiny on the path they take to avoid it ~ master oogway
@SoakieCat@@spbot2 Both are simultaneously correct.
@@spbot2 They checked the wrong kind of security, had they checked the fuses on the dynamite it would've been okay, instead the checked the security of the lock on his back
You got to imagine that Tai Lung has probably mentally went over his escape plan thousands of times, I imagine to the point to where it became a completely accurate prediction, like some shit out of the Sherlock Holmes boxing scene, but on a logarithmic scale. Except for when they blew up the stalactites. he couldn’t hear the explosives while restrained, and hadn’t planned for it, surprising him.
Tai Lung must be the most mistreated character in fiction
His dad spent his whole life telling him that he was going to be the dragon warrior and he spent every day training as hard as he could just to finally be so quickly brushed aside by master Hogway. And when he, while still being a TEENAGER mind you, went on a tantrum destroying stuff and attacking people their solution for that was to PERMANENTLY seal him away with no chance of redemption and not even a chance to ever being free again. And his dad? THE MAN WHO SPENT HIS WHOLE LIFE TELLING HIM TO TRAIN AND BECOME THE DRAGON WARRIOR? HE DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TRYING TO DEFEND HIM! NOT EVEN A MASTER HOGWAY PLEASE GIVE HIM A CHANCE. Nothing.
He was thrown away like garbage.
Mr cogway: See?!? I knew he would turn ebil. :)
Yeah it's pretty messed up if you think about it
Also Legends of Awesomeness Tai Lung had a nephew or something and Poe had to explain how that thing went down...
The look that shifu gave Tai Lung when Oogway denied him (1:07) probably hurt the most. Shifu just.. Accepted it. Took him 3 seconds to give up on him. Made no effort to defend him. Just dropped tai lung like a used tissue.
is he adopted though?
Mister hogway is a menace
He didn't believe Po was lucky he thought the scroll gave him the power of the Dragon Warrior
Prince of Egypt from the perspective of Pharaoh.
I will continue to ask on every video. LoL
Please do
That’s a really great and interesting choice!
Well, it certainly has a lot of potential for jokes. Egypt and all.
Moses didn't even enjoy causing plagues.
The power was wasted on him.
It should have been someone who would have savored causing the plagues.
The movie has some of the best art, soundtrack, and voice acting ever but we can all admit the story is rather absurd.
Yes, even the religious people. They can also recognize the absurdity without getting upset about it. It's part of the thing.
Forgot to add that while you were chilling in the spirit realm then a bull person came up to you and challenged you in the fight and claimed that he's gonna steal your chi.
The worst violation by the kung fu panda series is that all the cool characters are evil
As an exception, Tigress is cool as hell.
GODDDDD THEY CREATED THEIR VILLAINS SO WELL AUGGGGH
@@midnight4685 this totally isn't a 2 week late reply, but okay. i concede you tigress
I love how it's actually confirmed that po goddamn killed him. Like, before it was kind of nebulous, but being pulled from the spirit realm means that finger hold actually killed him.
The finger hold thingy is actually a technique to forcefully buried someone alive in a short time.
...I think.😂
@@durratulaishah3703 What? Bury someone alive? I looked it up and the finger hold is just based off of various fantastical moves from Chinese literature. They were called the “touch of death” and were supposed ways of hitting usually non-lethal parts of the body that led to death.
i mean it technically may not have directly killed him but just sent him to the spirit realm. semantics tho
He's got 90s gifted and talented kid syndrome
Honestly that entire movement is such a skill issue, like boohoo I never worked for anything and now I have to try Im so sad 😭
@@TheBluePhoenix008lol
What happened?
2 hundredth like
@@TheBluePhoenix008 Tbh at least Tai had actual talent and skill and his entire life was nothing but hard work. That's why he snapped when all that work for the goal was denied, and made it essencially wasted lifetime in that moment. ;'D
But i agree that movement was a shitshow.
-Can I have dragon scroll
-no cuz u become bad
**years later**
-Hi, I'm bad cuz no scroll
**discovers what's in the scroll anyway**
-TF???
You forgot the part where Kai stole tai lungs chi in kung fu panda 3, then decided to not use him in battle for some odd reason
Once Kai and Po's proper fight starts near the end of Kung Fu Panda 3, Kai calls back all of the jade zombies, and he grows in size, implying he gains physical power when the chi of the warrior is within him. So the reason he didn't use Tai Lung, is probably because doing so meant he would be almost powerless against any attack that came his way
I watched KFP3, I just didn't remember this ngl, fuck me after the first everything is just so forgettable
@@Nomsynho I'd honestly say 2 was better than 1; Shen is nearly as good as tai lung as a villain and the general story is way more serious. Plus po facing down the entire fleet is still probably my favorite moment from the series
@@Nomsynho
I mean, it doesn’t happen on screen.
He just has the jade pendant of tai lung
@@geoffzuo9831it’s one of the best moments in any animated film. The “inner peace” moment was beyond what even Puss v Death from The Last Wish could do… Dreamworks has done so many shows, movies, and other pieces yet imo they can never outdo Shen and Po’s rivalry. Po has no idea who Shen is yet Shen knows basically everything about him… just blessed storywritting.
7:54 its so funny that the CRANE, out of all things, decided to hold the bridge instead of just flying and lifting tigress.
He’ll just jump up again
@Skibster-w9l why did you think the f5 cut the bridge again?
Starwars from palpatines perspective
It will be ultra-funny, considering Palpatine barely had to do much for the Republic to doom itself.
But please, LEGENDS ONLY.
@@DeathMessenger1988 not really, like the whole manipulating the senate and filling it's ranks with his goons is still canon. Also the assasination attempts, the orcastrated war together with Dooku, it's all canon. He still did a hell of a lot. In fact, only the way he became senator and such a powerful sith lord, and him possibly creating Anakin are non canon stuff
the Plagueis book gives 70% of the insight, the rest is just chillin on the throne, dying, and then chillin on a crane
"Not to worry we're still flying half a ship"
"(HOW ARE THEY JOKING AT A TIME LIKE THIS THE SHIP WASN'T SUPPOSED TO FALL TO THE PLANET WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! ALL THESE YEARS OF PLANNING JUST TO DIE WITH THESE BUFFOONS!)"
@@Reorganiser
Let me repeat and clarify:
NO. DISNEY CANON. BULLSHIT.
TCW IS FINE, BUT *_NO. FUCKING. DISNEY. CANON._*
Yes, Palpatine did a lot of work to get the Senate and military on his side, orchestrate the Clone Wars and manipulate both sides, but mostly it was the Republic and Jedi's own eons-old flaws that doomed them.
I love over the top prisons designed only to hold one person. Star Wars the old republic has a really good one. It’s for a powerful force user. He’s in a chair, bound by some kinda electricity generator that zaps him if he tries to lean forward for lift his arms up. Also, there’s a ray shield around him. Also, it’s on a space station so there’s just a space between his platform and the observation ring that leads outside (space). And finally, there’s a bunch of droids, some of which are big AT droids
You could argue that this concept has actually been done irl, though that wasn’t the original intent. It was with rudolf Hess in Spandau
@@goldenfiberwheat238Hess wasn't exactly some super dangerous prisoner.
@ yeah I know. That’s why I said technically
@@goldenfiberwheat238 You could argue napoleon being stuck on st. helena fits this considering if he ever got back to France there was a very real chance he'd start more shit in europe.
@ oh true how could I forget
To be fair, I also destroyed my village when my parents gave me a BMW instead of a Mercedes on my birthday.
I don't understand why Oogway was so unreasonable.
I got a Kia Soul, I know how you feel.
Oogway doesn't like them catfolk.
Oogway knew there was evil in Tai Lung. And he was correct.
@@joaks1969 Then why did they create such evil?
one of the recurring tropes in kung fu movies is that the master and superior opponent has the superior balance, and it's portraied perfectly here with tai lung making the bridge shift and tigress struggling to keep her stance while he's staking a breather
7:02 the CC calling it Steven *Seagull* in a franchise where all kind of animals are fighters is just gold.
Kung Fu Panda 4 should've been Tai Lung's redemption movie to be the next dragon warrior: Change my mind.
Don't change ur mind
Not to be the next dragon warrior, but to be the one to train the next dragon warrior imo.
Tai was not killed by Poo, just sent to the spirit realm so returning and living his life again in the mortal realm is not unreasonable. Could have been humbled over so many defeats and have realized he would have not succeeded as the dragon warrior but with the chance back in the mortal real can train others to be even better than he was.
Yes cause nostaligia bait is better
@@Deathtoast509 Better than what we got.
@@Deathtoast509 yes, yes it is
Do handsome jack. The ancient alien warrior thats suppose to end the world is defeated by 4 guys with small arms.
Insta killed by a Manlet that shoots two guns at a time lmaooo.
maintain peak physique when you literally can’t move for 20 years💀
Kung Fu Panda from Lord Shen’s perspective would just be depressing, then there’s KFP 4 is where it gets hilarious
It's even sadder when you realize Tai was denied the dragon scroll because he wouldn't have accepted the fact that it had nothing, after being tortured and robbed of your childhood for years. But it would've saved 20 years of additional suffering and rage if they had just told him what it was
you missed the bit about being humiliated by the panda, and then some random ox dude cosplaying Kratos but with green swords comes along and just turns you into a green pebble ....
I feel bad for the man, he took life and becoming the dragon warrior so seriously only to end up rejected, sent to jail for 20 years, then learn that the one who replaced u is a fat panda who effortlessly kicks your ass, before showing you that your whole life purpose was meaningless and the dragon warrior means nothing, then sends you to a empty wasteland for years until your powers get sucked away by a tiny chameleon, then thrown in a cage to watch 3 clowns have a boring fight with each other, and you realize the fox is gonna be the next dragon warrior, and just realize that the whole world went to waste and that oogway was an idiot.
Not gonna lie, did not expect you to cover the KFP4 bit as well... But then again, I had 100% forgot that KFP4 was a thing... 👀
Weird he didn’t cover KFP3 has Kai has a jade pendant thing of Tai Lung, implying they fought in the spirit realm.
YEEEAAAAHH I forgot that he got taken by Kai,, I was only watching KFP3 for the panda bits, so I glossed over that bit
I was trying to forget about KFP4
6:11 i did NOT expect a joke like this in a kung fu panda video of all things that caught me off guard 💀
IK IT WAS SO DIABOLICAL 😭
Craziest part is, Tai Lung wasn't even a villain, he was the antagonist and a victim
10:20 I love how he said "a panda" exactly in Tai lungs accent
Madagascar 3 from Captain Chantel DuBois' Perspective. Just the fact that her singing got her task force out of casts with such a straight face suggests that she's done this before.
Also Happy Thanksgiving.
13:40 actualy Kai comes first and beats you, and turnes you into a rock.
the most ironic thing to me is that in the end its all because shifu panicked and sent the goose to inform that the rhino prison fortress might not be safe enough, which led the feather to drop right infront of tai lungs face - if you desperately try to prevent something to happen, it will most likey happen because of it
"You freedom people"
Thanks for translating into red white an blue for us lol
When I fenced competitively, I once heard someone say “the best never fears the second best, he fears the worst” because nothing can prepare you for what the worst fencer in existence might try and do in a bout.
And it’s true here as well with Tai Lung being the best a Kung Fu and Po being the worst. How the fuck is Tai Lung supposed to prepare or anticipate any of the shit Po does in that fight?
Part of why "beginner's luck" is a thing. The experts know how to counter the meta, proper techniques that everyone uses, but beginners don't use the meta.
Poker is the same way, haha
He didn't want an apology from his master, he wanted the power, plus the love and respect of his master more than an apology. Imagine your strong extremely strict father who has treated you like his proudest accomplishment, then he tells you he's sorry for doing it after you get kicked out.
Definitely mind controlled on the end, kung fu panda 5 will reveal the fox was actually a mind controller and pretended everything to steal the green stick from po
eh, I wouldn't give them the benefit of doubt.
Calling it "the green stick" is hilarious
@morganicsmoothie964 but accurate
6:20 “something needs to be stroked after 20 years” 🤣🤣🤣
tai lung not getting a redemption was the biggest tragedy
I really like the implications that sometime during Tai Lung's journey back to the Jade Palace.
He had gotten hold of rumors of how the "Dragon Warrior fell from the sky in a ball of fire" completely unaware of the truth of said rumor until the final battle.
Its likely that those rumors had gotten lost in translation towards the more furthur out villages. Like a long game of telephone.
Holy crap even without the whole thing with the Dragon Scroll, if I had been completely immobilized in a horribly uncomfortable position for TWENTY YEARS I'd probably be willing to commit omnicide to get my revenge.
Kung Fu Panda is one of the best movies ever made, it's jokes that seem surface level are actually deep enough to where it doesn't take away from the story. Like, what the victor of the battle came down to in the end was Po being fat. However this wasn't just a gag, it makes sense as his nerves were already established to be difficult to find by Mantis early in the movie. Also his anatomy is unique as an animal Tai Lung has probably never even fought before.
So imagine being Tai Lung, the aspiring greatest martial artist in history, getting defeated randomly by someone who assumably comes from a super peaceful background (I'm guessing the Panda genocide happened while he was locked up, as he didn't seem too phased by the fact Po was a Panda, Tai Lung was in prison for 20 years and the Pandas genocide happened 20 years before Kung Fu Panda 3 so it's entirely possible). It's funny if you don't think about it too hard, but it would be such a horrible feeling lol. The lesson that Tai Lung didn't even understand in the end, the fact that being the dragon warrior had more to do with accepting the meaning of the scroll/having inner clarity rather than the literal "powers" it gave you, or the destruction you can cause, led to him having an extremely bitter death.
Ok I had just commented about the panda genocide but that makes perfect sense about his nonchalance- he might not even **know**
Kung Fu Panda 1: how a fat rookie who was just a fan easily defeated a feared master in his field.
You forgot the part where Tai Lung went on RUclips and looked up lock picking tutorials when he got the feather.
Is nobody gonna talk about how this guy is talking with such a calm and peaceful tone the whole time? We're talking about Tai Lung. There is no calm or peace.
Its an ironic overtude.
To be fair, Tigres wanted to be the dragon warrior and was rejected despite being mere seconds away from being titled as such. You don’t see her going and massacring innocent civilians
"Boy you are gonna give something a gool ol stroke in a minute, because in twenty years of your hands being tied behind your back, something has not been stroked." 🤣🤣🤣
Hello, I'm a Freedom Person. Thanks for the shout-out!
also during the fight with po tai lung is probably also thinking that the only reason why he's losing is because po is getting powered up from the scroll
Personally, I think Tai Lung was almost considering taking Shifu's apology. But at that point, he had been through too much, had done too many things, and had been stewing in his own anger for 20 years, with smart ass rhinos mocking and ridiculing you whenever they get bored- which is probably a lot of the time since they don't have much ELSE to do. He KIND of KNEW Shifu was RIGHT, and this all was what he REALLY needed deep down.
I always think of Tai Lung as being basically the polar opposite to Po, but also being what Po COULD have been had he a different upbringing. While Shifu was PROUD of Tai Lung, he had nothing but vitriol for Po. While Tai Lung had a natural talent for kung fu, Po was just a fanboy. And Shifu poured so much of his pride into Tai Lung that he became a monster- yet with Po, he found out the answer was changing how he approached his training.
Yeah. I’d normally fault Shifu for filling Tai Lung’s mind with dreams and building up his ego to dangerous levels, but then I realized that Shifu himself didn’t have much humility and gradually grew as a person due to training Po.
@ honestly, that’s also part of it; shifu poured a lot of HIMSELF into Tai Lung.
*Breaks free from prison after 20 years, is very hungry.*
"Finally! A whopper!"
The new dragon warrior isn’t a worthy foe he’s a worthy Poe 😂
I was actually practicing Kung Fu when the first Kung Fu Panda came out. As a fully grown adult I watched the movie three times in a day and a half.
I was always impressed that Tai Lung didn’t lose his strength to muscle atrophy while imprisoned. He must have been secretly training that entire time to preserve his condition.
@4:08 The speculation that storm troopers have bad aim is a common misconception. It was intentional, Darth Vader would have told them to miss intentionally on the Death Star in A New Hope so he could track their escape and lead them to the rebel base. Obi-Wan even says to Luke towards the beginning of the movie that "Only Storm Troopers are this precise".
That makes sense, especially since they did find the base and even let the Bounty Hunter catch Solo
The title was actually right this time: it's objectively hilarious :)
Fighting Po was like fighting Wabbafett, you can hit him but that counter and magic mirror hits harder.
The entire point of the dragon scroll is Tai Lung's mentality. You are only what you are. Tai Lung went and rampaged when he didn't get what he wanted instead of going out and being a hero. His only ambition was to be the best, not to be a dragon warrior. Imagine if he went out and just, started acting like the dragon warrior, forget the stupid scroll. Be the best anyway. Go fight crime, go prove you are the best by creating an era of peace across the world with your power. But no. It all has to come back to that turtle and the red panda, the need for validation in a scroll made by a turtle you hate. What could have been expected other than nothing?
"You're gonna give something a good old stroke"
Ayooo
Hercules from Hades’ perspective
@10:21 "A panda!? He's a panda? you're a panda!"
kung fu panda 4 story without awkwafina re-write:
Po came home (valley of peace) after journeying the land as a dragon warrior completing many quests. he found out that his father Ping was dying. in his deathbed, he selfishly requested Po to continue his family legacy (the noodle shop) tho he wasnt really forceful about it. After ping's death, Po became split whether he should continue being a dragon warrior or fulfill his father's wishes. he felt he owed Ping that much. So Po decided to choose a new dragon warrior successor like oogway once did.
Po saw many talented warriors including shapeshifting chameleon, powerful buffalo, agile and cunning fox displaying their talents. his finger wasn't pointing at any of them to be the next dragon warrior. But Po wanted to fulfil Ping's wish, and put smiles back on the faces of little piglets who are already asking about the famed noodle shop.
So po against his judgement handed over the title of dragon warrior to the chameleon. Then po retired from the entire dragon warrior business to continue his father's legacy even taking on many rabbit apprentices in the arts noodle making and the 'secret' sauce for the soup.
The newly anointed dragon warrior chameleon was good in the beginning, but started to become corrupted with power. 'dragon' is a part of reptilian race. the superior ones. her belief was that reptiles should be the ruling class in the valley! Oogway was a fool to give his title to a fat panda. Chameleon mastered many kung fu moves, her favorite Iron Fist technique, which she uses her tongue instead of a fist to club the enemy like a hook. She even evolve it by incorporating poison to the technique, which she now calls it poison fist.
Chamilion started building a big tower at the valley and started training many lizard guards. Then she and her army started oppressing the citizens of the peaceful valley.
Po feeling responsible for his action and convinced by his other father Li, went back to challenge chameleon and tried to put her back in the right path. As Po was about to defeat Chameleon, she shapeshifted into mister ping! how can Po strike his own father! With guilt ridden, Po held back. But chameleon took that opportunity to strike Po down, but Li came in just in time with speed fueled by a father's love. Li saved his family from Lord Shen once, and this time, the old panda yet again launched himself forward to save his son! but Chameleon poisoned fist claimed his life though Po is safely pushed off to the side.
Po came to his senses and took his father's body and escape the tower. Po tried to find help as fast as possible, but no herbs can save Li from his fate. After both of his father deaths, Po was plunged into depression, as chameleon continues to oppress the people! The two other dragon warrior candidates, the buffalo and the fox took up the gauntlet to fight the lizard goons after seeing so much damage caused by them. The lizard goons were no match against the combined might of the two dragon warrior candidates. Chameleon stepped in to fight the two warriors in 2v1 match up. Chameleon noticed the fight wasn't in her favor, and the buffalo was extremely strong but not that smart. So she shapeshifted into the fox to fool the buffalo. The buffalo who was unable to differentiate the real fox from the fake fox, struck down the real fox instead! In the massive confusion, the chameleon in turn struck down the buffalo from behind.
Shifu now very old and retired warrior decided to show up one day and made fun of Po and told him to seek the wisdom of the cherry tree. When Po arrived at the cherry tree, it was being defiled by a group of lizard thugs. Po made short work of those thugs, then when he asked Oogway, there was no answer. When he looked over the once peaceful valley, it was now plagued with torment. Po attuned his dragon warrior senses again and understood what he must do. He mustered his courage and went back to the tower once more. There he challenged chameleon again, and she deployed the same tactics as before. But this time, Po had made peace with his senses and was able sense her Qi flow. Po then defeated her and took the Dragon Warrior title back.
After Po gave a long lecture to chameleon, she was then put in chains for all her crimes and lives she took. As the story ended, Po can be seen meditating at the grave site of both of his fathers finally made peace with his destiny.
The dragon scroll has literally nothing on it and oogway was still like nah hes not getting it.
being jailed for life for having a tantrum with no retrial should be a crime
"All ever I did, I did to make you proud"
blonde guy from middle earth, blonde guy... from middle earth... DAMN you managed to bring that memory back!
I aim to please :>
was looking for this comment ahhaha
13:29 the way he said, I can’t🤣
5:36 "Some blonde guy from middle earth" I died because I chose to believe you meant disneys Galadriel.
legolas is who he's referring to, the original trilogy has been out for longer than rings of power
@@jonnstewart2023 thanks that was super relevant!
@jay429429 ... guessing that's sarcasm, which means u already knew, which means I guess probably should re read the parts that indicate past tense, meaning u no longer believe that... however, if that is the case was being sarcastic necessary?
@@jonnstewart2023 lol! I was just trying to say it would be a banger if he meant Galadriel >.
The legolas rocks scene is from the Hobbit trilogy tho, not the LOTR trilogy
This makes me realize that Oogway probably didn't actually see "darkness in his heart" or whatever, but just realized he gave Shifu the wrong lesson plans. Really the entire thing has a ton of false advertising when you think about it. "Dragon warrior?" That 100% sounds like a program to become the greatest fighter of all time, when in fact its basically just therapy.
Tai Lung could probably sue
You forgot to mention how Tai Lung was defeated by Kai
I watched KFP3 and I must've glossed over that ngl
@@Nomsynho Don't feel bad. So did the 3rd and 4th movies
Which one is Kai?
@@EvilJuice-uh6giya mama
@@EvilJuice-uh6giI think it’s the bull with green eyes who had MAD beef with pandas.
Tai Lung will forever be the true dragon warrior
15:26 "It'd be like Cars 3 all over again"
I feel so fucking heard right now.
Just remember, a panda bear is still a bear. Never play around with a bear.
5:55 stalactite can get wet, not good for explosives
That's how they're made, but it's plausible they could be dry now. Or at least have dry areas where the bombs can go.
3:32 , you are completely missing the Oogwei's whole point about destiny in kung fu panda. "There are no accidents". "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it" - as in sending the duck to check on the prison only to help him escape.
Or did he?
But tai lung wouldn’t see it like that
If panda’s are known for their passivity, they would be PERFECT dragon warriors. They would not have an active rage or ambition that could become dangerous as it is uncontrollable!
Something that I feel is important that was left out of this video: Tai Lung, in between his first defeat and the events of Kung Fu Panda 3, had to fight and was defeated by Kai, as we see him as one of the jade medallions Kai has in his possession. So there was definitely a decent amount of time, even in Spirit Realm terms, between his defeat and when the Chameleon brought him back. So the way he acts at the end, with saying Oogway was right and bowing to Po could have been (at least partially) the result of some off-screen character development that happened during that time. At the very least, after losing to Kai, he’d have to accept that he wasn’t actually the unbeatable (except for that one time with the panda) warrior that he thought he was.