LorenzoDaGamer because when u interagtr someone u break them down and joker started to break down Batman making him lock the door and beat ting him making Batman hi crazy inside which is how joker interrogated batman
LorenzoDaGamer the Joker picked him apart mentally. He made a point by saying that the Batman was just as much of a “freak” and outcast as he is. Batman knew he was right which made him react so aggressively.
This is only new information if you refuse to learn human history. Think the Germans weren't civilized before Hitler? They were one of the most cultured countries in the world. Or Japan before the rape of Nanking? People do horrible things to other people, especially when convinced they are the superiors, or acting on fear over another.
Truly the most perfect joker we’ve ever seen on screen and probably will ever see tbh. I loved Joaquin Phoenix as joker aswell but they’re 2 completely different roles in my opinion so comparing them is 100% arbitrary and left to what the viewer prefers. But in my opinion Heath ledger is the real comic book joker. RIP legend 🙏
he knows that he got batman and police on the palm of his hand, thats why he say batman got nothing to threat him or nothing to do whit all his strength, that why he was laughing.
ain't that the fucking truth... even during the pandemic we were forgotten about... unless you were part of the NHS, then you got an applause and nothing else
Compared to this joker, Jared was terrible. Such a legendary character and WB just did their own thing with him and ruined him. Now we have to deal with it throughout the DCEU
Tbh, Jared Leto has potential as joker, to create a new joker. We just didn't get enough screen time with his joker to see it. I agree though I loved this joker.
"Leto only had 10 minutes of screen time so we can't judge him" 4 minutes of Ledger is enough to see how brilliant his performance is, 1 hour of Leto wouldn't make a difference
Leto was amazing. The script and the director are shit. What would have happened if Ledger was playing in Suicide Squad with that pointless script, no lines and no screen time? And if dark night never came out. Would ledger still be that great? No. He only has cult status because of his death and his Joker is praised because the script was good and revolved around him. He was great but let's not deify him. Leto is a great actor with better and more interesting roles than Ledger ever had. But Warner Bros fucked him up and fucked us up for expecting the Suicide Squad to be R rated and with a lot of Joker. instead they gave us a children friendly movie and cut all the Joker parts most likely because they were too inappropriate for today's disabled generic audiences. Both actors are great. One wasn't
+Alexandros Tepiskidis Ledger had a full fledged well written role. Leto had just flashes and appearances. Have to wait until Leto gets a scene like this where he can exhibit his range. sorry, should have been more clear in my last comment.
I consider the average blue collar worker to be insane, while the joker seems to be high off of the truth of the world, more sane than anyone who willingly part takes in the system
CyTheFox I know. Crazy how it’s already a little over 11 years old. I remember because I saw this in theaters on my 19th birthday. I need to watch this again.. these scene alone captivates you
I think realistically you could pick almost any scene in the entire movie he's in, but I think this might be Heath's greatest. The end, especially, where he's laughing maniacally while being pummeled in the face was chilling. You truly feel like he's still in total control, even while Batman is beating the shit out of him, and he is.
The funnier part about it is he's about to say that he can't feel the next hit if you go for the head first and does just that before he can even finish saying it and he felt alright.
When joker said "these civilized people we'll eat each other" As if h e was talking about the protest that's happening right now in Minnesota and all over the United States
Until 2016 just ruined it for DC, Joker was played by a terrible actor, the actor that played as Flash wasn't as good as the TV show version which is Grant Gustin by the way, Ben Affleck wasn't as good as Christian Bale, and they made Lex Luthor look like a bitch that doesn't mean I hate Jesse Eisenberg, and I expected more from Aquaman
@@Nani_M This is why even pure evil villains and criminals would be stuck on how to deal with this version of the Joker. There is no weakness or vulnerabilities the Joker has that they could exploit.
Fun fact: when the joker says “he may be in one spot or several” he is referring he could be in one piece or a million when he is blown to bits. Literally just noticed that too, so he really was telling the truth when he said that
If you think that's novel, how about how Joker gave opposite locations of Rachel and Harvey? Batman goes to where he's told Rachel is and finds Harvey instead. Again, none of this is hidden or hard to notice but 🤷
Batman on Batman Begins: WHERE WERE THE OTHER DRUGS GOING? Batman on The Dark Knight: WHERE'RE THEY? Batman on The Dark Knight Rises: WHERE'S THE TRIGGER? Batman. World greatest detective.
Shamy Zenden Dude, I laughed my ass off. Now if I could only find it. You'd think a full blooded 'Murican wouldn't have trouble finding his ass. But, alas, I am without ass.
raquel mayer I completely agree, his performance as a sociopath was acted so amazingly realistic that it's hard not to take it as life like. All the games he plays with batman, tapping into insecurities using the victim angle, then as batman becomes anger the joker feeds off that further by adding more lies involving people batman cares about. Just like real life narcs really. This performance will be tough to beat. Grate film
Exactly! He got the Joker's essence so perfectly. I swear in some moments of the movie, I kinda forget is a guy playing the Joker, I think IT IS THE JOKER. Heath Ledger is a legend.
Was fucking awesome. Do you know what they should have done with the Oscars? Nominated Ledger for leading actor as he practically owned the movie, and then nominated Eckhart for supporting actor. His acting was underrated, especially in the hospital.
That laugh when Batman is beating the joker is haunting. Once in a lifetime do we get that kind of acting. RIP Heath. Joaquin is great but this joker will never be topped
When this piece of "cinema" was out, people whined about how it's terrible compared to old ones. That's why old generations can never judge new movies fairly. Nostalgia makes them biased and intellectually blind.
***** That's not true at all though, people recognized the brilliance of this film right from the get go. I agree to some extent about the nostalgia thing but I think truly great cinema isn't ignored
roloug95 As someone with Odyssey profile picture you're probably aware your movie had negative reviews back in 1968. Yet today it's regarded as gold standard of science fiction. Talk about unrecognized brilliance. People rarely recognize brilliance at first glance. It usually takes them few years.
if he didnt die, the "Dark Knight Rises" movie script would have been entirely different and MUCH better. I'd like to think that the 3rd movie would have been similar to the "Dark Knight Returns" comic book. except Bane replaces the Mutant gang leader and his chaos would have unintentionally released the Joker and, like in the comic book, the Batman and Joker would have 1 final confrontation with the latter dying.
The idea that people think Heath was amazing in TDK because he passed is such a cop out. Compare just this scene alone versus Leto's performance in SS. The caliber here is of another level; it's painfully clear. My opinion of Heath's Joker is unbiased from his death, because I was one of the few people living under a rock and wasn't even aware that Heath had died until some time after I'd watched the film; but I was captivated for every second of his screen time. No doubt it's coveted much more due to his passing (naturally), but the quality of the performance is unquestionable. What seems to get past people is how much Heath invested in creating what we saw on-screen. He kept a 'Joker diary' and had music to get him fully in the mind of portraying this character; there's an interview of Eckhart talking about his experience doing the hospital scene with Heath. They improvised the entire blocking of the scene without ever saying a word out of character - the way he talks about it is akin to working with a legend. Seriously, look it up; Aaron Eckhart on Heath Ledger with Larry King. He treated this role with the intensity as if it was actually the last performance of his life...and it shows. By god does it show.
@@coffeelover0876 technically thats not true, the last punch bale accidentally hit heath and he laughed like that, so bale kept going but he did almost stop. Ledger never said "let loose" it was a beautiful accident
I just noticed this now but around 0:49 mark, Joker glanced to his right. He must’ve known or sensed Batman was there and was just playing all along. Nice detail
Watching this doing corona outbreak. And Joker was right. Watching “civilized peoples” fighting over toilet paper really shows that people are only as good as they are allowed to be.
Introduce a little anarchy and everything turns to chaos. Was thinking the same exact thing about the whole Corona virus and what the joker preaches about society. So true.
@@Uji_Metal where is your source for that please? so far i have heard no experts talking about any viable treatments for it. You also contradict yourself. If this was working why would they both be hoarding it and OVER prescribing it and given too much away. Your comment makes no sense really.
He went to the address to save Rachel but the Joker intentionally flipped the addresses so Harvey was at the location he said Rachel was at and Rachel was at Harvey's, so Batman ends up saving Harvey.
the joker did have a plan. He told Harvey that he didn't have a plan as a way to fuck with him and in some ways to fuck with the people watching the movie too. That's the thing with the Joker, you cant tell if hes trying to really fuck with the viewers as well as the characters.
This is the greatest acting performance of all time by Heath Ledger. The greatest villain of all time no question. Just perfection that cannot be duplicated, only compared to.
“Killing is making a choice, choosing one life or the other” The fact Batman has to choose who to save means he’s killing someone by default, no matter what the Joker wins here 🃏
I love how the Joker’s theme starts playing when he starts getting in Batman’s head...and it keeps getting more and more intense showing who’s really in control.
Farbod Pirouz I never consciously picked up on that. His theme definitely does slooooowly weasel its way into the scene and as it grows in intensity so too does Joker's mastery of the situation. Chaos consumes Order.
I love Heath ledger's joker because he's so dissected into his crazy psychosis as in the Joaquin Phoenix was the beginning of him discovering that psychosis
"You have NOTHING! Nothing to threaten me with all your strength!" It was at this moment that the Joker won. It took everyone else the rest of the film to realize it.
He didn't say "nothing to threaten me with all his strength" he said "You have NOTHING! nothing to threaten me with nothing to do with all your strength" Just saying not hating
@@abishek1910 allow me to explain. "Depending on the time" implies the bomb has started ticking and once it's done, it'll blow up and "he may be in one spot or several" meaning he'd have already been blown to bits
Anyone with common sense and a basic understanding of human nature will figure that out. You can get people to kill their own children when the right button is pushed. Just look at the starving people. Some will kill for a piece of bread while other people become cannibals.
3:46 That laugh always gives me chills. Heath Ledger asked Christian Bale if he could really punch him hard to make the acting more convincing, and oh boy does it pay off. The fact that it has been said 1000000 times doesn't make it less true: Heath Ledgers performance was legendary and will be remembered for generations to come. Christopher Nolan truly made a masterpiece of modern cinema and it really deserves every praise it gets!
Nathan Luz It was definitely a legendary performance by Ledger but even if it was the best actors in the world a bad director can ruin the movie. Like Justice League as an example if they had the Wonder Woman director direct it, the movie probably would have had a better chance of being a big hit.
elmertjee it really is a quality film, a social commentary , everybody did a fantastic job, Heath really showed his potential as an actor and really stands out because he had never done something like this prior to this film
+Richard Authemeb yeah he actually kind of lost it there. He was already a bit loose in the head, and then he was seriously on Meth at the same time he got so intensely into this role, he went full blown crazy after this. Im surprised he didn't actually hurt some people
There's an alternate universe where heath is still here and has starred in every nolan movie since this one. He's win multiple Oscars and awards and is considered on the level that only a handful like Daniel Day-Lewis have ever achieved. How i wish I was in this universe
You know I was watching American Psycho recently and realized Christian Bale is not only good at playing the Batman, but could probably play a damn good Joker too.
@CrimsonNerd So anikin skywalker is just dumb easy to manipulated and annoying kid who dont like sand and lose because he cant jump higher ... huh ? I except more from anikin to darth vader.
Still one of the greatest scenes in movie history. The Joker, even in his insanity, enjoys being in complete control even as Batman throws and punches him. "See...I'm not a monster" - what a line.
+Mustafa Adaglu And that is really the ONLY aspect where Affleck's Batman is superior. His Bruce Wayne was terrible and his Batman was actually what Bale's batman would be if he listened to this Joker. Someone who's entire concept of "good" has been obliterated by hardship. And for me that's what makes Bale's batman superior or at least morally stronger.
3:47 notice how the joker’s theme gets louder here, a subtle way to let the spectator know that even if it doesn’t look like, the joker is the one who is punching batman where it hurts, he destroyed his whole “fear” card by simply not being scared of being beaten up, and batman knows that every second he refuses to give him the adress, Rachel and Harvey are closer to die, right here, is when the joker won, and the best part? He knows it, i think that’s why he laughts. Best script in superheroes history
Just something about that laugh at 3:48 that always gets me. Man is literally outing the jokers head through a wall and smashing him up and he doesn’t even care. All he cares about is torturing batman and watching him lose control is so satisfying and you can tell he loves it which is so crazy because if someone flipped me and out my head into the wall I would not be laughing.
I think that's because the way the Nolan brothers write and develop and create characters. Batman and Joker are yin and yang in this film. Both want to achieve the same things but both have two different approaches and philosophy and moral code. It’s almost analogous to Malcom X and Dr. King. Both wanted equal rights for the oppress blacks but both had differences. King was more about peace while X was ok with violence. (I am not saying X is Joker lol) Batman wanted to end corruption and crime in Gotham by being savior by catching the bad guys in the act but Joker wanted to achieve it through coercion. One wanted extreme liberty for the people through anarchism and the other wanted a fair corrupt-free democracy with rightful “law & order”. One was a realist the other was an idealist. That’s why Joker says “You complete me..” but that also shows how psychotic Joker was that even if wanted those ideals to be achieved he still wanted that conflict with Wayne because that’s what makes him tick. He always wanted to push his morality to prove a point, that morals will never solve problems completely, there's always a lesser of two evils in the eyes of this Joker, so why bother.
Alberto Rodriguez ,"honestly speaking no one wants to be bad its, all what we get and how we reacted to it".At the end of the day we humans talk about morals, ethics ,justice and u know what the funny thing we do it to justify ourself see how selfish,believe me or not each and every word told by joker reflects truth which doesn't required any proof because it is nature of our humans this man is really not a psyco
Jokers final joke in the movie Joker mentioned “the society that banishes him and treats him like trash” meaning that he implied that they live in a society
"...They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other..." Came here after watching people looting around in USA. Now we see how right Joker is, what have we become 😔
So it takes a riot by peasants to finally wake you up? The filthy, government owned ghettos didnt give you a hint? Or what about the poor economical imbalance caused by wealthy people who live lavishly while everyone else suffers? Did you start to think this way after seeing how the world praises a group of people who went around pillaging, destroying and brainwashing entire countries, while a race that is basically globally INNOCENT, is hated as if they unleashed nuclear weapons on a small village? You people are STILL asleep!
This isn't Batman interrogating Joker....this is Joker interrogating Batman
Robert Foster how?
LorenzoDaGamer because when u interagtr someone u break them down and joker started to break down Batman making him lock the door and beat ting him making Batman hi crazy inside which is how joker interrogated batman
LorenzoDaGamer the Joker picked him apart mentally. He made a point by saying that the Batman was just as much of a “freak” and outcast as he is. Batman knew he was right which made him react so aggressively.
@@wm_9640 don't talk like one of them cause your not
I'm 14 and this is deep
2008: "When the chips are down, these civilised people, they'll eat each other"
2020: People fighting over toilet paper and hand sanitizer
About to comment this
So fuckin true right now
Use a bidet, you goddamn cavemen.
What chip??
@@andygarcia1137 social order
"These 'civilised' people, they will eat each other up"
This aged so well.
Like a fine wine🍷
@@varunmehta5627 for example today. Agrima joshua
This is only new information if you refuse to learn human history.
Think the Germans weren't civilized before Hitler? They were one of the most cultured countries in the world.
Or Japan before the rape of Nanking?
People do horrible things to other people, especially when convinced they are the superiors, or acting on fear over another.
Whatever you say, fatass bitch.
If didn't age well yk why because it was always a fact
"See im not a monster.....im just ahead of the curve." I love jokers facial expression right after he delivers that line.
He's like a cat purring when he says "curve"
Shane from Walking Dead lives by this quote.
Thanos: You should have gone for the head
Joker: Never start with the head
Wilma Dicphit damn this is actually a good ass comment.
I can the enthusiasm
alvin: get the best head
if youre gonna kill someone you should go for the head. If youre just gonna interrogate somebody then never start withthe head
Stark differences in these two phenomenal villains
"ah, the good cop bad cop routine?"
"not exactly"
its more like good cop bat cop
Well played my friend.
yeah well played
Thanks
Nice one m8
Gftzilla honestly this comment made my day just that much brighter knowing people think about these types of things. Congrats friendo
3:45-3:53 I can't stop rewatching this particular part of this incredible scene. I keep coming back to it. 2020 and Heath is still the Joker. Rip
I know right that laugh was perfect
I love when he just looks at Batmans fist and laughs instead of flinching. Thats some sick shit
Truly the most perfect joker we’ve ever seen on screen and probably will ever see tbh. I loved Joaquin Phoenix as joker aswell but they’re 2 completely different roles in my opinion so comparing them is 100% arbitrary and left to what the viewer prefers. But in my opinion Heath ledger is the real comic book joker. RIP legend 🙏
we live in a society, where honour is a distant memory.
Isn't that right.....Batman
Lol
society moment
Pls dont quote that stupid movie here.
@@TheSlimmshadyy its not stupid
The writer for this movie deserves a lot of credit .
EVERYONE who made this movie deserves praise.
Heath Ledger was involved alot in creating Joker's character here.
@ThatKidWhoLiesAboutHisAge OnTheInternet yep
@@midnightvanity158 and Jonathan Nolan
Its David Goyer
He gets punched in the face smashed into a window and he starts laughing damn
+Sean Clark There's three jokers so it won't matter if he dies
I know! He absorbed the damage almost as if the attacks were fake! Like they were staged for a movie or something!.....
he knows that he got batman and police on the palm of his hand, thats why he say batman got nothing to threat him or nothing to do whit all his strength, that why he was laughing.
+John O'Neill you know heath actually told bale to hit him as hard as he could for this specific scene
Ulisses Martinez yeah but wasn't that just the once? When his hand was on the table?
"They need you right now... but when they don't... they'll cast you out.. like a leper."
Essential workers after the pandemic is over.
I know right?
Workers being fired for not taking the vaccine.
Essential workers were a joke they weren’t essential it was all propaganda
ain't that the fucking truth... even during the pandemic we were forgotten about... unless you were part of the NHS, then you got an applause and nothing else
This scene is absolute masterpiece!! Joker's words are more relevant today than ever!
Must be absolutely terrifying to hit someone, only for them to laugh louder as you hit them harder.
depends, some are into that
What makes this even scarier than Pennywise was Heath Ledger asked Christian Bale to actually beat him up.
Der Große Bismarck
tfw you're more insane than an interdimensional eldritch monster who feasts on literal fear
Enthios I am not Cthulhu or Azathoth or Atlach. I’m just a guy who reads IMDB
Ollie Wrenn probably frustrating
"Don't talk like one of them"
that line still gets me
he scolded batman like he's bat's mom lol
@@glowiever fr tho 😂 😂
NoxZero “ You’re not! Even if you’d like to be... to them you’re just a freak “
@@trinililbit12345 "Like me. They need you right now.. When they don't, they'll cast you out."
@@Matthew-jn4zm Like a leper... You see their morals, their code, it's a bad joke.
3:47 Still the best Joker laugh to this day, rest easy Heath Ledger
The acting is outstanding. This how you make good dc movies.
The best part of Heath's Joker that he has no origin, no history , no backstory nothing.
I wouldn't say it's the best part, but definitely adds to the character's sense of mystery and makes him creepier
It's better that way
gp1497 agree
Hi Daßer That’s what Christopher Nolan did in Dunkirk too
Actually if you pay close attention you can piece together a small loose backstory
This scene makes me realize how shitty of a joker Jared Leto is.
Agreed on
Compared to this joker, Jared was terrible. Such a legendary character and WB just did their own thing with him and ruined him. Now we have to deal with it throughout the DCEU
Well I mean how can you judge based on a 20 minute appear and to a WHOL FUCKING MOVIE?
Tbh, Jared Leto has potential as joker, to create a new joker. We just didn't get enough screen time with his joker to see it. I agree though I loved this joker.
+Ashley Martinez lol kiddo you knows nothing about joker you've just knew the joker because of suicide shit nared bullshit
This aged really well with all of the riots going on right now.
Oh that was just the beginning.
You think riots are new? You think societal collapse is new?
That fact that this scene was soooo real and he was willing to go the extra mile that he’d actually asked Batman to beat him up for real is incredible
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Favourite scene in my favourite movie. Joker destroys Batman with just words. Incredible.
Thepopcornator Yeah man, I am suprised how smart the Joker is with his words in this scene. He just plain destroys Batman 😂
doo then how he talking to him and actin make it so perfect
Thepopcornator
real hero's don't need a superpowers like batman
real villains hurt people's with words not with power like ledger
best choice noooo, words are power
Your comment has been so simple, yet it is so relevant and correct. You have acknowledged Jokers words against Batman, and that is terrifying
"Leto only had 10 minutes of screen time so we can't judge him"
4 minutes of Ledger is enough to see how brilliant his performance is, 1 hour of Leto wouldn't make a difference
Leto was amazing. The script and the director are shit. What would have happened if Ledger was playing in Suicide Squad with that pointless script, no lines and no screen time? And if dark night never came out. Would ledger still be that great? No. He only has cult status because of his death and his Joker is praised because the script was good and revolved around him. He was great but let's not deify him. Leto is a great actor with better and more interesting roles than Ledger ever had. But Warner Bros fucked him up and fucked us up for expecting the Suicide Squad to be R rated and with a lot of Joker. instead they gave us a children friendly movie and cut all the Joker parts most likely because they were too inappropriate for today's disabled generic audiences. Both actors are great. One wasn't
+Alexandros Tepiskidis one wasn't lucky enough
There's a difference between a well written 4 minute scene and fucked up 30 second sequences. Reserve your judgement for a scene like this.
what do you mean? example
+Alexandros Tepiskidis Ledger had a full fledged well written role. Leto had just flashes and appearances. Have to wait until Leto gets a scene like this where he can exhibit his range. sorry, should have been more clear in my last comment.
Joker's not insane, he's more sane than any of us can ever imagine.
that's what makes him the best villain... he's completely sane
@@isaiahwatkins1502 Yep.
As CinemaWins put it: "He may be insane but he's totally in control at all times"
I consider the average blue collar worker to be insane, while the joker seems to be high off of the truth of the world, more sane than anyone who willingly part takes in the system
When you realize Joker was actually right
Yeah because we live in a period
@@sbevexlr848 we live in a exclamation mark
@@bloopahVIII damn right
*Joker interrogates Batman*
Batman rapes Kawaki
Kawaki exactly
Mmmm thats deep cus in the long game he really did interrogate batman
*C O R R E C T I O N*
Boruto
This movie has aged so well. Absolute masterpiece.
CyTheFox I know. Crazy how it’s already a little over 11 years old. I remember because I saw this in theaters on my 19th birthday. I need to watch this again.. these scene alone captivates you
French Jesus
Hello, cringe department?
@@_Cato_ he's not wrong
@French Jesus my pic before this looked better
@French Jesus no u
I think realistically you could pick almost any scene in the entire movie he's in, but I think this might be Heath's greatest. The end, especially, where he's laughing maniacally while being pummeled in the face was chilling. You truly feel like he's still in total control, even while Batman is beating the shit out of him, and he is.
Ironic how despite the Joker being held prisoner, he's the one in complete control.
'These civilized people will eat each other'' - This man is not a psycho. He knows the truth and is being honest.
Dark Knight rises
Just because he knows the truth doesn't make him sane. He's a psycho with a warped perception of reality.
Qweefmire
Why is he insane?
テオドル He enjoys chaos, killing people and pain if that's not insane idk what is.
What's sanity when all there is, Is insanity
the face he makes when batman slams his hand then says "see..." always makes me laugh
YESS!!! I was looking through the comments to see if anybody thought it was funny.
Donnie K LMAO exactly, that's da funny part..
Scout Chip fun fact: that was real.
The funnier part about it is he's about to say that he can't feel the next hit if you go for the head first and does just that before he can even finish saying it and he felt alright.
It's like "damn almost got me but nope"
2:13 Minneapolis today. Joker was right all along.
When joker said "these civilized people we'll eat each other"
As if h e was talking about the protest that's happening right now in Minnesota and all over the United States
That is definitely not what he was talking about lol
Don’t compare they 2 things, i get the analogy but no. It doesn’t work in that context
Golden days of DC.
Until 2016 just ruined it for DC, Joker was played by a terrible actor, the actor that played as Flash wasn't as good as the TV show version which is Grant Gustin by the way, Ben Affleck wasn't as good as Christian Bale, and they made Lex Luthor look like a bitch that doesn't mean I hate Jesse Eisenberg, and I expected more from Aquaman
Salvador Lucero do you mean Christian Bale? Chris nolan was the director haha :)
@@joduo shit I typed the wrong one, thanks by the way
@Jack Z shut your ass up that was a small mistake
Salvador Lucero What about Wonder Woman and Shazam?
YOU HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING TO THREATEN ME WITH.
This is why Joker will always win.
also joker have nothing to lose that why he will always win no matter what
@@Nani_M This is why even pure evil villains and criminals would be stuck on how to deal with this version of the Joker. There is no weakness or vulnerabilities the Joker has that they could exploit.
Fun fact: when the joker says “he may be in one spot or several” he is referring he could be in one piece or a million when he is blown to bits. Literally just noticed that too, so he really was telling the truth when he said that
Yeah that wasn’t layered, that was the only thing that could’ve meant
He also said depending on the time as in a time bomb
If you think that's novel, how about how Joker gave opposite locations of Rachel and Harvey? Batman goes to where he's told Rachel is and finds Harvey instead.
Again, none of this is hidden or hard to notice but 🤷
2:11 batman’s face is soo cute 🥺
🤞🙄
Batman on Batman Begins: WHERE WERE THE OTHER DRUGS GOING?
Batman on The Dark Knight: WHERE'RE THEY?
Batman on The Dark Knight Rises: WHERE'S THE TRIGGER?
Batman. World greatest detective.
Don't Call Me An Idiot Because IM BATMAN!!!
Batman That phrase is a joke, and not funny one either. Because its over use.
Well,uh awkward
He already knows, he's just giving them a chance to confess.
Shamy Zenden Dude, I laughed my ass off. Now if I could only find it. You'd think a full blooded 'Murican wouldn't have trouble finding his ass. But, alas, I am without ass.
There are no words or compliments sufficient enough to Heath Ledger. He was unreal.
raquel mayer I completely agree, his performance as a sociopath was acted so amazingly realistic that it's hard not to take it as life like. All the games he plays with batman, tapping into insecurities using the victim angle, then as batman becomes anger the joker feeds off that further by adding more lies involving people batman cares about. Just like real life narcs really. This performance will be tough to beat. Grate film
Exactly! He got the Joker's essence so perfectly. I swear in some moments of the movie, I kinda forget is a guy playing the Joker, I think IT IS THE JOKER. Heath Ledger is a legend.
yeh i constantly had to keep reminding myself it was heath they got the right choice of actors for sure joker in this was flawless
this was exactly what i was thinking.
Was fucking awesome. Do you know what they should have done with the Oscars? Nominated Ledger for leading actor as he practically owned the movie, and then nominated Eckhart for supporting actor. His acting was underrated, especially in the hospital.
That laugh when Batman is beating the joker is haunting. Once in a lifetime do we get that kind of acting. RIP Heath. Joaquin is great but this joker will never be topped
Came here after the Zack Snyder's Justice League trailer released.
Same
Twelve years later, everything the Joker said has proven to be correct
No, it hasn't. But people certainly wish it was so
@@Storm-jn5ct how? This year should prove it. There arent people with morals anymore just people fighting for power.
@Robbo thats the point.
How ?Which way???
Storm It has
"I'm a man of my wuuuurd."
"I'm just ahead of the cuuuurve."
"you'll have to chooooose."
anyone love how he drags the last word hahaha.
Break the one ruuuuuule
Lol 😂😂Elioth Massato
sounded like he was mocking batman by impersonating his voice when he said that
+Rabiba Zaineb hahaha!!!!
Heath ledger said he worked on little nervous ticks to make him look insane. like prolonging his words
this scene changed my life, the whole movie did.
"See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curb" I've always loved that fuckin line!!
I've watched this scene maybe a hundred times. man, will cinema ever get this good again?
Same
best scene in any batman movie or joker portrayel
When this piece of "cinema" was out, people whined about how it's terrible compared to old ones. That's why old generations can never judge new movies fairly. Nostalgia makes them biased and intellectually blind.
***** That's not true at all though, people recognized the brilliance of this film right from the get go. I agree to some extent about the nostalgia thing but I think truly great cinema isn't ignored
roloug95 As someone with Odyssey profile picture you're probably aware your movie had negative reviews back in 1968. Yet today it's regarded as gold standard of science fiction.
Talk about unrecognized brilliance.
People rarely recognize brilliance at first glance. It usually takes them few years.
Heath was by far the greatest super villain actor of all time and if he didn't die it would have been amazing
wow really
He did, I never heard that, but I know he was a fan of Heath's work, he mentioned that when he won an award for There Will Be Blood.
Honest question, do you think its amazing because he died?
if he didnt die, the "Dark Knight Rises" movie script would have been entirely different and MUCH better. I'd like to think that the 3rd movie would have been similar to the "Dark Knight Returns" comic book. except Bane replaces the Mutant gang leader and his chaos would have unintentionally released the Joker and, like in the comic book, the Batman and Joker would have 1 final confrontation with the latter dying.
The idea that people think Heath was amazing in TDK because he passed is such a cop out. Compare just this scene alone versus Leto's performance in SS. The caliber here is of another level; it's painfully clear. My opinion of Heath's Joker is unbiased from his death, because I was one of the few people living under a rock and wasn't even aware that Heath had died until some time after I'd watched the film; but I was captivated for every second of his screen time. No doubt it's coveted much more due to his passing (naturally), but the quality of the performance is unquestionable.
What seems to get past people is how much Heath invested in creating what we saw on-screen. He kept a 'Joker diary' and had music to get him fully in the mind of portraying this character; there's an interview of Eckhart talking about his experience doing the hospital scene with Heath. They improvised the entire blocking of the scene without ever saying a word out of character - the way he talks about it is akin to working with a legend. Seriously, look it up; Aaron Eckhart on Heath Ledger with Larry King.
He treated this role with the intensity as if it was actually the last performance of his life...and it shows. By god does it show.
1:52 - 2:38 everything he is saying is felt, heard and seen. Everytime I watch this, I get goosebumps...
This is also the moment where batman starts to feel fear
Damn, those punches to Joker's face look brutal as hell. And of course he just laughs them off
Ninja Those punches were real. Heath told Christian to let loose.
Christian was worried he would hurt him.
Ledger told him to "just go for it. kick my ass."
@@DarksaberForce holy shit
Imagine if young Mike Tyson hit him lmfao
@@coffeelover0876 technically thats not true, the last punch bale accidentally hit heath and he laughed like that, so bale kept going but he did almost stop. Ledger never said "let loose" it was a beautiful accident
"You're awful batman"
"Why's that?"
"You brought me into this room...just to beat me up"
RunDa Mic how about another joke batman?
@@harrizburhan what do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a system that treats him like shit?
Nliel Courkka what you deserve
Sounds like something Phoenix joker would say
@@markbuffalo37 what you fucking deserve
Sometimes the villain makes sense
I just noticed this now but around 0:49 mark, Joker glanced to his right. He must’ve known or sensed Batman was there and was just playing all along. Nice detail
Watching this doing corona outbreak. And Joker was right. Watching “civilized peoples” fighting over toilet paper really shows that people are only as good as they are allowed to be.
Introduce a little anarchy and everything turns to chaos. Was thinking the same exact thing about the whole Corona virus and what the joker preaches about society. So true.
Yes
W E L I V E I N A S O C I E T Y
I saw that exact same meme now, that's why I came here. For people losing their shit to get toilet paper🤔
@@Uji_Metal where is your source for that please? so far i have heard no experts talking about any viable treatments for it. You also contradict yourself. If this was working why would they both be hoarding it and OVER prescribing it and given too much away. Your comment makes no sense really.
Heath ledger made this movie.
So did Aaron Eckhart!
Where did Batman go?
He went to the address to save Rachel but the Joker intentionally flipped the addresses so Harvey was at the location he said Rachel was at and Rachel was at Harvey's, so Batman ends up saving Harvey.
Without a doubt.
Eckhart was terrific but Ledger was the foundation of this movie; without the latter, the movie would not have been as epic as it was.
You know why you're here
How many of u are hear after hearing this dialogue in Snyder's Justice league trailer
Hi
No one will ever beat Heaths joker... Even if they’d like to
👍🏼👍🏼
watch Joaquin and come back to edit your comment
Chris Andreas literally have and it’s not close.
Anubis I’m saying that no one can play the character of Joker better than him
@@ElephantWhisperer222
you clearly didn't
Are you here because you've seen SUICIDE SQUAD and missed this Joker? Good....I'm not alone....
Yep
Wait ! Leto is gonna be a good joker.. Just give him time ..
I really hope so
me too
precisely. that other guy was a joke
Everything joker said in this is literally true about society and the world.
What a movie and what a scene. No music really just that sound in the background building the tension and then the dialogue. Masterpiece !
"When the chips are down, these civilised people, they'll eat each other" -Joker in 2008
We were warned
That's the scariest part about it
@@thnzxc 2020 and 2021 on fire
@@alessiodelcastillo1613 damn right
@@thnzxc *chips* represent food or electricity?
@@parkerpeter1795 chips, like poker chips, lol
A psychopath without a motive is the most dangerous one.
You have nothing, nothing to threaten me with.
But joker did have a motive
***** he wanted to trigger anarchy and chaos in Gotham by bringing out the worst in the best, in this case Harvey Dent.
the joker did have a plan. He told Harvey that he didn't have a plan as a way to fuck with him and in some ways to fuck with the people watching the movie too.
That's the thing with the Joker, you cant tell if hes trying to really fuck with the viewers as well as the characters.
Joker said it himself hes a dog chasing cars, wouldnt know what to do if he actually caught one
This is the greatest acting performance of all time by Heath Ledger. The greatest villain of all time no question. Just perfection that cannot be duplicated, only compared to.
I guess the joker was right about civilize people
Ledger doesn't play joker role. He Was the joker
Hernan Lomaquiz That title belongs to Mark Hamill
Heath Ledger is the best cinematic Joker, Mark Hamill is the best animated Joker
Hernan Lomaquiz R I P heath ledger😭😭😭😭
Said like a true poet
ledger? didnt realize it was him until someone told me.
imagine beating the shit out of someone and then holding them up and they're laughing in your face😶 DAMN THAT'S SCARY
That's the point.
Ben Bird disturbing
My little brother, the last time I ever beat him up.
SHEEKY FAH wtf
And trying not to lose control
*"We live in a society"*
“Killing is making a choice, choosing one life or the other”
The fact Batman has to choose who to save means he’s killing someone by default, no matter what the Joker wins here 🃏
I love how the Joker’s theme starts playing when he starts getting in Batman’s head...and it keeps getting more and more intense showing who’s really in control.
Farbod Pirouz
I never consciously picked up on that. His theme definitely does slooooowly weasel its way into the scene and as it grows in intensity so too does Joker's mastery of the situation. Chaos consumes Order.
@@_Cato_ True
@@_Cato_ Joker definitely Mentally Destroyed Batman.
Good catch. It’s so good that I didn’t consciously notice it. I felt the anxiety along with Batman lol.
Batman: I am in control!
His laugh at 3:48 is flawless. Best Joker ever.
Couldn't agree more. It basically reminded everyone that they were not dealing with a normal human being.
Yetzi Guzman it gives me chills
Yep, was great but Mark Hamill's laugh is freaking amazing to.
Definitely up there with Hamill!
Terrifying.
I love Heath ledger's joker because he's so dissected into his crazy psychosis as in the Joaquin Phoenix was the beginning of him discovering that psychosis
*We live in a society where honor is a distant memory. Isn't that right, Batman?*
3/18/21
credits to the sound effects team....they made this scene more psychotic, ear piercing and brain damaging
Sub Killer Hey This Is A Real Fighting Scene In The Movie Not A Fake Scene
Sub Killer didn't they win the Oscar as well?
Overrated adjectives
Hans zimmer is best in the world
Ya especially with joker's laugh it's crazy
"You have NOTHING! Nothing to threaten me with all your strength!"
It was at this moment that the Joker won. It took everyone else the rest of the film to realize it.
He didn't say "nothing to threaten me with all his strength" he said
"You have NOTHING! nothing to threaten me with nothing to do with all your strength"
Just saying not hating
“Does Harvey know about you and his little bunny?” LMAO that always made me laugh for some odd reason.
“Well depending on the time he could be in one spot or several” such an underrated line.
That truly proves "brain is much better than muscle"
Satan 666 yeah batman hit him and he was just : '' where is he '' 😂
hazzasfuck 😹😹
hazzasfuck
Satan 666 Luckily, Batman has both.
Joker is both tho, if he's just a whiny bitch with all brain and no muscle he will never pull these off
“Depending on the time, he may be in one spot or several...”
Holy shit that’s dark...
tyup 6747
Dark humor;
a bad joke, if you will.
I didn't get the joke until now.😅
@@renwulf1695 I still didn't get it..
@@abishek1910 allow me to explain. "Depending on the time" implies the bomb has started ticking and once it's done, it'll blow up and "he may be in one spot or several" meaning he'd have already been blown to bits
dude I never caught that. I just thought he meant they're constantly moving dent to shake off the police.
Joker's words are totally applicable today for USA
This scene is perfect for 2020.......
When he's talking about morals and code of society, he's absolutely right. Look at the situation with the coronavirus
Gentlemen you’re absolutely right.
The Joker was never crazy,he was just ahead of the curve.
doubleP bro he is crazy
Society
Anyone with common sense and a basic understanding of human nature will figure that out. You can get people to kill their own children when the right button is pushed. Just look at the starving people. Some will kill for a piece of bread while other people become cannibals.
3:46 That laugh always gives me chills. Heath Ledger asked Christian Bale if he could really punch him hard to make the acting more convincing, and oh boy does it pay off. The fact that it has been said 1000000 times doesn't make it less true: Heath Ledgers performance was legendary and will be remembered for generations to come. Christopher Nolan truly made a masterpiece of modern cinema and it really deserves every praise it gets!
Nathan Luz It was definitely a legendary performance by Ledger but even if it was the best actors in the world a bad director can ruin the movie. Like Justice League as an example if they had the Wonder Woman director direct it, the movie probably would have had a better chance of being a big hit.
Rsimms27 agreed. A bad director can ruin good acting.
I also heard that Heath Ledger asked Christian Bale to actually beat him up in this scene
Rsimms27 Okay. Nolan was not a bad director in my opinion...
elmertjee it really is a quality film, a social commentary , everybody did a fantastic job, Heath really showed his potential as an actor and really stands out because he had never done something like this prior to this film
Joker chaos in USA - we need Batman!
Create the chaos - bring in the order
All that strength and power, but he's so helpless against the joker.
fun fact: when bale did the physical part of the interrogation heath told bale to hit him as hard as he could to make the performance more realistic.
That's some crazy shit if Heath was actualy getting hit and didn't show any sign of being in pain.
Erik Hackney heath was method acting. for all intents and purposes in his mind he was the joker. not heath ledger. THE JOKER.
+Erik Hackney Maybe in real life Heath Ledger was a bona fide masochist
+Casper Ghost XD
+Richard Authemeb yeah he actually kind of lost it there. He was already a bit loose in the head, and then he was seriously on Meth at the same time he got so intensely into this role, he went full blown crazy after this. Im surprised he didn't actually hurt some people
3:47 that laugh, is one of the greatest few seconds of acting ever; gives me chills through to my core very time I hear it
Rhaegal I Can’t stop replaying it! It’s just Chilling in the most Satisfying way Possible! RIP Heath Ledger.
God imagine what Joaquin Phoenix will be like
@@Dukesparrow1999 I havent heard something as chilling until the new trailer
I live for this laugh
It was a real punch, too!
There's an alternate universe where heath is still here and has starred in every nolan movie since this one. He's win multiple Oscars and awards and is considered on the level that only a handful like Daniel Day-Lewis have ever achieved. How i wish I was in this universe
You know I was watching American Psycho recently and realized Christian Bale is not only good at playing the Batman, but could probably play a damn good Joker too.
I didn't really like christen bale as batman mainly because of his down syndrome voice.
+Qweefmire he's gotta hide his voice somehow.
Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it!
hahahahahahahahahhaha now thats a statement!!
+Kevin Zavala no he doesn't. he just needs to speak monotone. anybody can have a monotone voice
Josh Brolin as Thanos was fantastic no doubt, but Heath Ledgers Joker is without the most iconic movie villain of all time.
@CrimsonNerd Darth vader is good until you see anikin skywalker.
@CrimsonNerd So anikin skywalker is just dumb easy to manipulated and annoying kid who dont like sand and lose because he cant jump higher ... huh ? I except more from anikin to darth vader.
Lol, thanos wasnt even the best in mcu, those reward should go to either zemo or killmonger
Ryan Rizki you’re insane. Zemo was good but he barely makes the top 5 and killmonger is overrated.
@Avid Fan we say that coz Heath lived off in that character, he actually went through hell to actually impersonate a psychopath
Still one of the greatest scenes in movie history.
The Joker, even in his insanity, enjoys being in complete control even as Batman throws and punches him.
"See...I'm not a monster" - what a line.
Still love this movie. Favorite Batman movie of all time.
*FLAWLESS ACTING!*
From Ledger, yeah, I think the other guy shoulda recuperated from that bad cold first.
no, not acting. He is the Joker, there is no acting here.
+Evan Dentes Shut up.
+S0RROWS Jeez haha how did this turn negative?
+Mustafa Adaglu And that is really the ONLY aspect where Affleck's Batman is superior. His Bruce Wayne was terrible and his Batman was actually what Bale's batman would be if he listened to this Joker. Someone who's entire concept of "good" has been obliterated by hardship. And for me that's what makes Bale's batman superior or at least morally stronger.
Heath was amazing in this scene!
"See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve."
Now THAT'S dialogue!
3:47 notice how the joker’s theme gets louder here, a subtle way to let the spectator know that even if it doesn’t look like, the joker is the one who is punching batman where it hurts, he destroyed his whole “fear” card by simply not being scared of being beaten up, and batman knows that every second he refuses to give him the adress, Rachel and Harvey are closer to die, right here, is when the joker won, and the best part? He knows it, i think that’s why he laughts.
Best script in superheroes history
Just something about that laugh at 3:48 that always gets me. Man is literally outing the jokers head through a wall and smashing him up and he doesn’t even care. All he cares about is torturing batman and watching him lose control is so satisfying and you can tell he loves it which is so crazy because if someone flipped me and out my head into the wall I would not be laughing.
heaths joker makes you agreed to a villain sometimes
yes mate all his line make sense
I've always love this version of the Joker! He's just shit crazy!
I think that's because the way the Nolan brothers write and
develop and create characters. Batman and Joker are yin and yang in this film.
Both want to achieve the same things but both have two different approaches and
philosophy and moral code. It’s almost analogous to Malcom X and Dr. King. Both
wanted equal rights for the oppress blacks but both had differences. King was
more about peace while X was ok with violence. (I am not saying X is Joker lol)
Batman wanted to end corruption and crime in Gotham by being savior by catching
the bad guys in the act but Joker wanted to achieve it through coercion. One
wanted extreme liberty for the people through anarchism and the other wanted a
fair corrupt-free democracy with rightful “law & order”. One was a realist
the other was an idealist. That’s why Joker says “You complete me..” but that
also shows how psychotic Joker was that even if wanted those ideals to be
achieved he still wanted that conflict with Wayne because that’s what makes him
tick. He always wanted to push his morality to prove a point, that morals will never solve problems completely, there's always a lesser of two evils in the eyes of this Joker, so why bother.
Alberto Rodriguez ,"honestly speaking no one wants to be bad its, all what we get and how we reacted to it".At the end of the day we humans talk about morals, ethics ,justice and u know what the funny thing we do it to justify ourself see how selfish,believe me or not each and every word told by joker reflects truth which doesn't required any proof because it is nature of our humans this man is really not a psyco
Jokers final joke in the movie Joker mentioned “the society that banishes him and treats him like trash” meaning that he implied that they live in a society
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"...They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other..."
Came here after watching people looting around in USA. Now we see how right Joker is, what have we become 😔
So it takes a riot by peasants to finally wake you up? The filthy, government owned ghettos didnt give you a hint? Or what about the poor economical imbalance caused by wealthy people who live lavishly while everyone else suffers? Did you start to think this way after seeing how the world praises a group of people who went around pillaging, destroying and brainwashing entire countries, while a race that is basically globally INNOCENT, is hated as if they unleashed nuclear weapons on a small village? You people are STILL asleep!
Society has always been like this, since the dawn of civilizations... nothing new.
Bold of you to assume people are good at heart. Never has been.
3:24 “look at you go!”. That’s when I knew joker had won.
"See im not a monster, im just ahead of the curve."