Kitchen cabinet paint type and painting 70s kitchen update
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2015
- Behr Alkyd paint semi gloss white 3900 enamel from Home Depot. Water cleanup. It comes pretty think in the can, but paint sprayer sprays just fine. I tried to add water to make it thinner, but coverage suffered and more likely to run.
Best paint I ever used for trim, doors or cabinets.
Great alternative to oil based paint. 
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This looks absolutely incredible! This is the exact paint i want to use and i pray it turns out like yours!
I’m about to use this in the satin finish for a kitchen cabinet refinish project. Cabinets were aggressively sanded with 120 grit random orbital sander and then 2 coats of zinsser oil primer were applied 24 hours apart. My plan is to sand again after 24 hours by hand with 220 grit then paint a coat of this alkyd paint, sand with 600, then paint a final coat. Now the doors are easy, I have a nice airless paint sprayer. But for the rest of the cabinets, I can’t decide if I should velour roll or foam roll or nylon brush or roll then back brush.
Nice Job !
Very helpful!
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What sprayer did you use and what nozzle size? Did you dilute and primed first? How did you prepare the cabinets for the paint? So many questions lol. I will start with my cabinets soon and need answers :). Thank you
They make little felt pads to prevent door from touching cabinet frame. You could have fixed that issue for $10 or less.
He's referring more generally to the fact that latex paint will have an undesirable sticky, tacky feeling all over (especially in a humid environment)- not just that the doors would stick. He used the word "rubbery" to describe the feeling.
Lol I know that’s right
I don’t like latex paint. When I try to clean my white interior doors, it just peels away and the dirt seems to get stuck in it. I was wondering if I should use on my front door and trim. I am looking for a hard finish. I will try it out, thanks.
Yeah urethane is synthetic oil.. dry like oil but is water urethane Dunn Edwards is aristhoshield and Sherwin Williams pro industrial urethane.. perfect paint for kitchen cabinets ,doors and casings,bathrooms, and baseboards, urethane is the best
aristoshield from dunn edwards works well too
dont use 100 grit sand paper on cabinet doors, it will leave bunch of scratch marks, use 220 grit instead, theres also hundreds of videos that show what to use to paint cabinets, theres many different products for that, advance from benjamin moore, pro classic from sherwin williams, and you can even use lacquer but thats for someone with more experience.
Grit.
@@really2345 thanks man, I really needed that
So if i am going to use behr marquise latex ultra nova white semi gloss latex enamel will the doors be sticking to cabinet frame?
Only thing is i am going to roll on the paint it is one coat the paint you used i got originally though didnt hide the dark areas where hinges came off & other places of the frame of darken spots what do you think being i am rolling should i try to use the ultra behr latex semi gloss will it yet turn out ok?
Old Timer that paint is not meant for cabinetry, the one he is showing is, it will dry very hard like an oil base paint, they also sell little plastic bubbles you install on the doors in order to keep them from touching the wood when closed.
I did not use primer. I just prayed once with paint, waited to dry completely (5-7 days) and sprayed second coat.
how are they holding up...were they varnished before or painted...if they were varnished and you put it right over it then someday soon it will come off
That’s too long of a dry time
I painted my cabinets with Latex and allowed the latex to CURE for 2 whole months before using them. Then I placed the items back into those cabinets and every single item STUCK to the paint, with some of the heavier items sticking so much that they actually PEELED the paint right off of the wood when I tried to remove them from the cabinet. Don't use latex! I then used some 'Advance' paint that I bought from benjamin moore on one shelf that was particularly sticky ( I used a hot air gun to scrape the latex off of that shelf) and a week later everything seemed to be okay, so I placed stuff onto the paint and no problems since then. I have since removed the latex from the other shelves in the cabinet and applied the 'Advance' paint to those shelves also. My advice to anyone who is thinking of painting anything = If ANYTHING is going to be repeatedly touching that painted surface, DON'T use latex, use benjamin moore's 'Advance' paint instead. And if it is a kitchen or a bathroom = use Advance paint there also. ('Advance' paint is a water-cleanup Alkyd paint).
Honesty Counts I found using sealer after the curing time is a deal maker if you can’t afford the splurging on the good stuff
I sprayed my interior doors with this product and loved it.
What sprayer did you use and what nozzle size ?
@@doityourself3042 Graco X7 with a 313 tip.
Hi James815, how has your paint held up? I’m thinking of using it as well! Thank you-
I used a Graco X-7 with 313 tip.
@@carelesslyx I would say it held up just fine👍🏻. I think Sherwin Williams is by far a better choice though and this is from experience.
What paint sprayer did you use? I know it has to be airless, just curious as to which one you used.
I have the same question and what nozzle size
Use an airless sprayer i would recommend GRACO 390/395 or Titan 410/440 the DYI sprayers X5 or the Wagner are not good for fine Finnish, use a GRACO FFLP fine finish low pressure tip it uses the blue tip guard and use a 208 for smaller doors if your doors are bigger use a 308 set the pressure about between 1/2 and 3/4
Am using Behr Alkyd paint now on a cabinet. Using a critter sprayer with air compressor. Do you remember what psi setting you used, assuming you had that option?
According to the recommendation on the label, says not to use air sprayers. Has to be airless sprayer w/ .013" - .017" spray tip.
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Hey man so I used the same paint this week. First time I used it but my only question is. When I sprayed it dripped and runs So what sprayer did you use. Plz help with info
Pressure too hi or tip us blown out
The new 2021 formula or version drys well and it's less tacky - Kitchen
The 2017 version is so tacky used baby powder after a week - Master Bathroom
True looks like professional - used HomeRight Finish Max
Thanks! What primer? The primer has been my greatest challenge. Thanks again!
use extreme bond by sw
kilz oil base is cheap and works great, but if you need something that dries faster and easier to sand you can you BIN shellac primer.
Bin
So this video was 3 years ago, How are they holding up for you in your rental I'm thinking of doing the same.
Michael M I see you didn’t get a reply yet and I was wondering the same thing. Have you went forward with your project yet? I’ve got this paint as well and getting ready to use on oak bathroom vanity now that it’s all prepped (cleaned,deglossed,sanded, filled wood grain, sanded again, wiped down). It says on the can only primer is needed on darker staines, metal or wrought iron, so I’m not going to use primer.
I see this guy never replied back so I just want to give you my review. I have the same cabinets as this guy only that mine where never painted, last year I painted mine and I used the same paint as this guy, I sanded my entire cabinets then did 2 coats of zinsser 123 primer from home depot then 2 coats of behr paint as pictured in this video, the color I went with is called Nano white. They turned out great and a year later they still look like the day I painted them, I have 2 boys and this paint has held up very well, so now I am using this paint again this week to redo a kitchen table and 4 chairs but in a different color. Hope that helps with your question 😉
did you use a top clear coat of like polyurethane? thinking of painting mine soon
Valene Clarke did you spray or use roller?
@@DarOliv I did not use any top coat. Make sure you let your cabinets dry a few days before putting your hardware and door back on.
Awesome job! Did you have to use primer also?
Always is better primer.... oh depends is new wood sherwinn Williams have good primer but is the surface have stain or varnish the best primer is for Benjamin Moore Kelly Moore universal primer is water but is the best... cover stain is the best but is too Mach sanding Also clean the air less is a lot work
You bought the wrong sandpaper for that style palm sander ya Jack wagon!
I have tried same alkyd paint in satin and it was no dry/hard even after a week, I changed it out for semi-gloss it's still not hard. It has not been 7 days but I am totally disappointing with this paint it's not normal to dry this long. I like other Behr paints but this one really sucks!!!
Arek Kosinski all behr paints suck 🙈🙈🤣 use Advance from Benjamin moore, or pro classic from sherwin williams they are both waterborne paints which will dry hard as oil and at 73 degrees air conditioned room they should be dry in 4 hours
@@duartepaintinghandymanservices I'm going to paint OVER that exact paint Behr Oil .... Ya think the waterbornes will stick directly if i sand a bit , or use the deglosser from SW (forget what it's called) I think those waterbornes are pretty sticky stuff ... I do not want to prime , I want to paint over with oil or waterborne .... want a nice smooth finish that sticks well , non yellowing , hard ... You know what I'm trying to do
shure46 yes they should stick if you sand the surface down with 220, if you have stain I would consider using a primer first such as kilz original oil base
@@duartepaintinghandymanservices Thanks , an no it's not stained , previously painted with that exact same Behr Oil Based Semi-Gloss .... (painted years ago) , so I want to use something better looking , that Behr just doesn't look good , I don'r know what it is , but it just looks cheap .... I'm thinkin SW Proclassic Oil or Waterborne Hybryd (not ProClassic latex , but the waterborne stuff) and I do not want to prime , so I'll scuff it , degloss it/clean , and apply paint .... I know waterborne is technically "water clean up" but I was wondering if Mineral Spirits (just a dash) would help it flow better brushing (I know that stuff is sticky)
shure46 no dont add any mineral spirits to the waterborne it flows nice as it comes out of the can. the alkid behr paint isn't oil, its also a hybrid, they just named it alkyd which confuses people, I recommend either pro classic hybrid or benjamin moore advance, and if you want to skip the sanding you should consider using PPGs breakthrough paint, it sticks to everything without sanding, trust me I've done my tests
Crap! That's all I can say. I purchased a gallon of this paint to redo
my kitchen cabinets. I sanded with 220 grit sandpaper, used a tack cloth
to clean up, primed 2 coats with Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 water based
primer and started painting with this Behr Alkyd Semi-Gloss Enamel using
a Purdy brush. Nothing but STREAKS! I called Behr tech support about it
and the guy was nice but had no clue! He only offered to refund my
money. I told him I didn't want my money back... I just wanted paint
that went on smoothly, not lumpy! The paint is almost as thick as honey.
It took 3 coats to cover the cabinets and all of the trim. I removed
all the doors and did the same prep work to them as I did the cabinets..
but today I'm so angry I could pull my hair out. The first coat left
streaks and lumps.. no matter how much I try to brush the product out. I
put a 2nd coat on and most of the brush streaks are gone but not
overlapping brush strokes which look lumpy. Sanding is not an option as I
tried this on a piece of sacrificial wood and it just gum's up the
sandpaper even after leaving it out in the hot sun for a few days to
dry! I'm going to try rolling it now as that's my only hope.
I'm a Senior. I've been painting my whole life... at least since I was 12 years old with my Dad. I've used most brands of paint. I can honestly tell you I've never used paint this crappy in my life! I'll NEVER buy any Behr product again... especially this CRAP!
Most alkyd paints are formulated much thicker than they used to be in order to comply with regulations imposed by our federal over-lords. In order to get them to flow, you need to break the law and add some mineral spirits.
Otherwise, the poster of this video is correct in that most high quality alkyd paints will give you a harder finish than most latex paints. There are exceptions of course. I have found that Graham Aqua-Borne acrylic does a decent job of hardening. Many latex paints can be tacky for many months after applying. For instance, I made the mistake of using some on a TV cabinet I made just before Christmas 2014. It is not March 2017 and that damned cabinet still has a sticky feel to it. Not wet, but if I leave something on it for a day or so, I have to give it a yank to break it free.
I tend to use the Graham for exterior work and Benjamin Moore oil based for interior trim and cabinets. The latex does a better job of stretching and shrinking as the wood moves through the seasons when in an exterior situation.Kind of hard to beat the tough finish of alkyd for trim and cabinets that get handled all the time and need to be scrubbed once in a while. But use a high quality alkyd paint. Many cheap ones will yellow badly due to lower grade linseed oils. I have trim painted over ten years ago with Benjamin Moore satin impervo that show little signs of yellowing. While one room painted with a cheap grade turned yellow within just a year or two.
I agree with you about latex paints. They should be applied to walls. ;-)
For cabinets in my other rentals I went with Benjamin Moore enamels. No problems at all. Went on smooth, stayed smooth and flat and dried hard. I'll NEVER use an alkyd again. Some things "old school" just can't be beat. Like a real telephone which one can pick up and actually hear someone on the other end and carry on a conversation. No texting. No GPS and calculator and email's. Just TALKING clearly to the other person the old fashioned way. ;-)
you should of used foam brushes or foam rollovers. foam brushes are what's recommended for kitchen cabinets to avoid brush strokes
Mike Betts Hey Mike, here's another kick in the pants. Southern California has BANNED mineral spirits here. We have to drive up north or even to Arizona to get it now.
Kolin Ken that’s because you’re supposed to spray cabinets not use a brush especially since Purdy is made by a different manufacturer now
Paint sucks! Two weeks later still tacky!
What pint did you use why it was yet tacky after two weeks was it the latex water based?
@@BurtBowers I used alkyd for cabinets, I ended up using polyurethane on top and it hardened it! Paint by it self would not fully dry even after a month
use Advance from Ben Moore or Proclassic fron sherwin williams
I use this product on some kitchen cabinets i notice that with the heat temperature will get little tacky
Did you thin it? We tried this paint w hvlp and it was too thick, called Behr, they said any thinning ruins the cure of the paint.