we do remodels and my favorite to use is valspar signature it is nice to work with and holds up well, second favorite is sherwin super paint but prefer the signature since it sags less. both cost about the same here 209 for valspar and 211 with sherwin discount both bought and used in the last month for different owners. Bher is good on coverage and holds up but boy does it like to sag you need to go back and check it a few times.
Yes, please do a head to head series on paint comparisons. Don't forget to label the winners in different categories. We love these kinds of RUclips series.🎉
Agree - in some cases the paint store paints are even more confusing. For example, Sherwin (in the US) has their economy line (Superpaint), and then three higher lines that overlap in price, coverage, and finishes (Emerald, Cashmere, and Duration). In the pro line, they sell all these, plus ProMar 200/400. As a DIY homeowner, with a major painting project maybe once every 4-5 years, I just don't use the stuff enough to know which of six different, but similar, interior latex paint lines is right in which situation. I'm totally guilty of just defaulting to HD/Behr because I'm already in there, and Premium Plus has always worked 'fine' as a two-coat paint for me. I also found the finish of the one-coat paints underwhelming. They're like painting with oatmeal, and very easy to get sagging and/or flashing. In the end it's just easier to get a nice looking finish with two coats, and start with a product that's designed for that.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY absolutely would love to see you compare PPG, SW and BM side by side on a stained up wall. One room with one coat, another room with two coats - if you're really gonna get scientific about it..
Jeff, I'm an engineer and former co-owner of a construction company. I'm "retired" now but keep active by consulting. One of my primary oversight divisions was our painting division. We've had annual training from US-based paint companies in the use, application and coating complications that arise. First thing I observed from your video -- you nailed it: using a 15 mm microfiber roller for all paints is a recipe for failure, especially with thicker paints. It's a common mistake -- one that is often overlooked by professionals and home owners alike. Second, 400 SF/gal is wishful thinking by the paint companies' marketing departments (who, I believe, have never painted a room in their lives). 400 SF/gal may be applicable but only in ideal conditions. A better estimate is between 275 - 350 SF/gal depending on the condition of the interior surfaces. [More on that next.] Third, repainting new home construction will (a) get coverage of about 300 SF/gal at best; and (b) you need to apply two (2) coats to seal the wall and get good color rendering no matter what brand/sheen/coverage claim. Most new homes in the US are drywall construction; most production painters (because of fixed cost contracts) do not prime drywall. They spray relatively inexpensive paints that dry quickly, so that 2 coats can be applied economically. The result is a "thirsty" wall; any 1st repaint will soak up lots of paint with poor color appearance (if using only 1 coat) no matter what the product label says about 1-coat coverage or not. Four, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PAINT-AND-PRIMER IN ONE. Paint products are a chemical coating. Primer is chemically different from top coat paint. I'm 70 and this is the 3rd or 4th time the paint companies have rolled out this nonsense of all-in-one paint. According an engineering source at one of the two top paint brands in the US, all-in-ones simply have more solids added to them; that is, they're not primer, but wall paints with less transport agent and more of the solids. Solids are part of what makes the final paint coating hard. more solids blocks the existing undercoat from "bleeding through" after the newly applied top coat dries. But, what you gain from increased solids is lost as other components of paint -- like acrylics that make paint washable or scrubable are decreased. Last, two (2) coats works better (for coverage and color rendering) than one (1) coat ... period. Coverage does not equal quality appearance. I got a lot of push-back on this from HOs and some painters, but once I took the HOs into a room where half of the room had 2 coats and the other half had 1-coat, the complaining stopped. Also, every sharp-eyed interior decorator readily noticed where my crews applied 1-coat vs 2-coats. As for Behr Paints in general, IMHO they've deteriorated in quality since the early- to mid- 2000s. We used Behr Premium Plus back then and it was a decent paint. Now? Garbage. My favorites: For interior PPG (Speed-Hide, Hi-Hide Brilliant White (Flat) for white ceilings, UltraLast), Benjamin Moore (Arua, Regal) and S-W (Cashmere, Emerald) (in order); Exterior: S-W (Resilience, Emerald), PPG (Acri-Shield Max, Permanizer), Benjamin-Moore (Aura, Element Guard).
20 years of owning a painting company and I agree with you on everything you said. I have used mostly PPG products. Manor Hall(Acri-shield Max) is my favorite exterior paint. Speed hide is a great product too,
This dude knows what he’s talking about! Behr is absolute rubbish. Agree with almost everything said here. The only parts I may not agree with is simply because I don’t have experience with that particular product but you nailed everything else so I trust the rest is coming from expensive. I’ve used Behr (multiple lines), Sherwin Williams (multiple lines), Benjamin Moore(multiple lines). Benjamin Moore Aura is an outstanding product. Go back to Behr from that and you’ll be wondering how they even sell that stuff.
Thank you for your detailed post, from obviously a great deal of experience. So, a new drywall should be primed using a dedicated primer, followed by 2 coats of the top coat? Sanding in between coats or is that only appropriate for older surfaces?
Ive watched your channel for years. I did my kitchen backsplash because of you. It failed my standards horribly BUT your videos showed me why (no ledger board for the first row) and its because I missed a bunch of steps haha. I redid it and it turned out PERFECTLY. I recently changed out my water heater myself because of you and it has been amazing for the last two months. Water tastes better, water is hotter, joints have held with me checking every 5 minutes of my life. I spent 800$ +- a few bucks to get the tools and materials needed when I was quoted 1k to 4k from a few sources around me. So thank you for saving me a few hundred to a few thousand just from me watching your videos. I painted MY WHOLE HOUSE and it looks AMAZING due to your tips and tricks. I replaced a sink, a disposal, redid my LVP flooring WITH underlayment, added screws when the floors squeaked. So thank you, if I had more money to burn I would be a top tier fan but im poor so I will just keep watching with the ad blocker off because the amount of money youve saved me has been so worth every second of your content. Im about to build my tool small shed (its under 120 square feet thats required for code here without a permit) so thank you for that too. Changing simple outlets, light switches, light fixtures. Whatever. Youve been the biggest help I could ever ask for and have been the BEST channel ive seen since ive been on this journey of finally owning my own house and figuring out how to do things myself.
Yes! Been watching for years. Do a comparison from what you would personally use if you were doing the job. S-W vs PpG or S-W vs PpG vs Behr. Or all S-w vs Pp5 vs Behr vs B-M
As a paint chemist, I can add to this great video! Paint quality has two sides: initial qualities (color, spatter, hiding power, viscosity) and long-term performance (color fading, scrub resistance, peeling). Remember, there's always a trade-off between price and features. Ask your paint store staff about qualities you need based on your project (rental unit, long-term use, etc.). Great video, but paint quality goes beyond the initial application!
Jeff, 22years of painting experience here (only painting practically daily, not everything else like yourself). I'm here to confirm you were right about behr paints 20+years ago. The technology has changed greatly just like cell phones and the gallons today perform vastly superior across the entire product line. They also have cheaper contractor grade behr paints down to 25bucks a gallon that perform just as well as the 50 bucks variant. The golden standard, and the paint of your dreams, is going to be the Sherwin Williams emerald for walls. It leaves behind such a smooth even finish to where the entire wall looks like it was dipped in paint as one piece at a factory. Inspecting it from every angle imaginable, spreads like a dream (unlike these thick ones) and doesn't sacrifice coverage, ultra smooth finish, it just looks unreal, and if you know what you're looking at, which you clearly do, it'll be instantly noticeable. Everything will just look next level flawless. To really appreciate the difference you have to see it on a 20' tall wall with lots of side lighting. When we do high end homes it's our go-to product. And of course, as you've figured out in the video, a nice thick microfiber nap makes a world of difference during application.
Great insight, I've heard great things about emerald and I've also heard duration is a great trim paint. I personally have been using benjamin moore ultra spec 500 for the more economic jobs and something like Regal Select or Aura for high end.
Really interesting! Do you have experience with Benjamin Moore Regal Series Simply White? We just used it on a job and the painter mega struggled with coverage much more than our usual Sherwin Williams paints
My best friend, and probably worst house painter on earth, (she WILL 100000% get paint on ceiling, and all crown moulding) RAVED about the Sherwin Williams Emerald line and her cut ins looked pretty good for the worst painter on earth. And with your high praise, I can’t wait to try it! May I ask you a few random questions about your favorite SW colors? What is your favorite bright? Your favorite super dark color (interested in what undertones you think like best for a dark wall). And what is your favorite sherwin Williams paint color of all time (even if you would NEVER personally use it.) It can be a white neutral, I won’t be mad about it. 😂 I’m a curious soul and I’m so interested in professionals and their answers.
Agree with this. Always used emerald as trim paint until homeowner was buying the paint for a job and bought the wall paint color in the trim paint and trim paint color in the wall paint. I was very happy with emerald for walls. Good thing to note there's 2 different versions, emerald and emerald urethane. The emerald urethane is great for trim but hard to work with because it's an alkyd. Kinda like a hybrid water based that acts like oil. It wouldnt be as good for walls in my opinion. Just some of my experience with it.
Always make sure Home Depot employees give you the pour spout for the true Behr lids with the little circle on the lid. They are free just like the stir stick and lid opener you didn’t ask for
I knew about the stir sticks, but they will give you lid openers? My dad always just used a screwdriver but every project I've needed paint for I either had a Phillips head or no screwdriver so I always fight with it
@@Mitchacho74 They give you a poor spout, paint sticks and lid opener for free. You may need to ask them as they become very busy and customer service is sometimes questionable.
My wife picked out the Behr Dynasty and we painted our whole home with it. Used a spray gun. It’s very flexible and durable. You definitely only need one coat as long as your drywall is already primed, or the wall already has a similar color paint.
The paint and Primer 2in1 ive never had to use 2 coats. I love it. Its been my go to for years. I also had 4 kids trashing my walls. Very washable and durable. ❤
Thank you so much, i was running through all the comments for someone to validate that me doing 1 coat of paint is enough as by looking at it I feel i do not need to do the drill all over again :D Also first time painting an entire house , so this helped me a lot.
Anyone who can admit when they're wrong gets respect in my book. Thanks for doing this review! I've not even put up drywall in my basement, but this will eventually come in handy. Until then, your other videos are invaluable! And I am living in a warzone in my home - 3 kids, 2 dogs (Great Pyrenees) and 2 cats. So I'll need "the good stuff."
As far as the 3rd gallon for inside closets...I generally recommend all closet interiors be bright white and eggshell. Any color in a closet just makes them dark. Flat paint in a closet does hide a lot of construction sins, but in trade for showing every touch, rub, or scrape of normal closet use. Your milage may vary.
And if they are white or off white you don't need to repaint them when you change the color of the room. I just went from pale blue grey to light cream on the walls and the closets are fine with both!
I had a 8 by 2 reach-in closet with mirrored doors perpendicular to a roughly 24"x 48" south-facing window. The bedroom wall paint was Behr Baja, basically a light khaki. I painted the inside of the closet a soft black, and everyone said it would make it too dark. I trusted my vision and glad I did. It made my clothing, shoes & accessories pop against the dark background, and low visibility was never an issue. It looked sleek and finished. The shallow depth with the added benefit of south facing window made this work, though I saw in there just fine with my normal overhead light in the evening. It's possibly my favorite design decision I've ever made. Context is key! We've since moved, and I'll be painting the interior closets very light pastel colors to up the LRV. Even my bedroom closet which has a sizable east-facing window will be a light color. I personally don't usually care for bright white closets. They look very spec home/ builder-grade to me. I like a little personality where I house my clothes
Always a fan of your channels! Yes, please do a head to head of the major paint brands. Let's make it as fair as possible and pull the cheapest line and the most expensive (or your preferred line) of each paint brand just like you did with Behr, using the recommended rollers/equipment for each and see the results side by side. Can't wait!
I've used that Behr paint and primer product a ton and I have never had any issues with it - I actually really like it. I've never upgraded to the Behr higher quality paint because I figured at that price point you're getting close enough to a Sherwin Williams and I've never had any reason not to just use the "lower end" paint and primer.
I have only actually helped to paint walls once in my entire lifetime, so I am by far no expert but what I gather the most from this video is read the directions on whatever paint you’re buying and apply it with the proper equipment the way it tells you to apply it I think this is going to hold true with any paint no matter the cost. That is what I gather the most from this video. Thank you.
As a painting contractor the past 35 years I really enjoy watching you expain the quality difference that comes with price. Explaining to customers point why I choose to use paint in any given situation is one of the most important things I do (except for prep). Sorting through the variables with clients helps to put them at ease and establishes right up front that they made the right choice in hiring you. One just needs to be careful not to explain to the point that their eyes start to roll back in their head (this will happen just before the head explodes), they are not as interested. In all seriousness, there are many things that go into a paint job that will last 20 years and if a contractor uses inferior paint then the money saved on the front end will cost so much more in the longer run. Anything that prepares the client for making the right choice is better for all of us.
Thoughts on doing a blind test? Have someone else pour each brand in the trays before you enter the room. Results might be interesting and entertaining!
I missed the part when he said it was a scientific test, and got out light measurers, and weighed the paint with a scale. Sily me- I thought he was giving us the opinion of a 30yr painter, not that of a scientist.
I've used Behr paints for two decades. I'm impressed with their Exterior formula. It's been there for over 10 years on my 2d floor (botton is brick) and it still looks good, even on the South side which is fully exposed to sun. I do have wide eaves, too, so it's all around somewhat protected from water.
I must disagree with you. Back in the 90s, I built a porch on to my house. I pre primed everything with 2 coats of primer,. Before I started the build. Once it was built, I purchased the best bear paint I could by at HD. A blue and a white. I put 3 coats on this porch. Within 2 years the paint started fading and pealing. Total 💩. More recently in 2018. I painted a duplex for this guy. And he'd already picked out the colors and paint he wanted to use. Which you can guess what brand paint he chose. Anyway I sprayed and back rolled it. I prepped everything, especially all the trim, cause it was bad. The trim was white. Anyway I got the exact same results. Within 2 years the paint started to fade and peal. Total 💩.
@@assog5737 Sorry to hear that, but it doesn't change my experience. I did have one incident where I went to buy exterior paint and the associate pulled interior paint base, which I didn't noitce, but my painter did when she began putting it on the next day. I returned it and got replacement. That lasted 7 years until i got tired of the color and put on what I have now.
I LOVE Behr paint. I PUT 1 COAT coverage to the challenge all the time. Just FYI, Behr has a free pourspout that you screw right into the little circle that comes off the top. Also, the entire lid comes off, so that you can reposition the pourspout and hammer it back on. And Behr paint doesn't seem to stink like Sherwin Williams paints stink. Really enjoy your videos. TY
check the age of your paint (might have been on the shelf for 3 years) old psint smells from all manufacturers - I too prefer Behr paint. Painter for over 40 years. In my opinion there is no 1 coat paint, they fill them full of titanium dioxide to get opacity with the trade off of less of the other stuff. 2 thin coats always wins. My favorite paint of all is Behr Ultra Skuff resistant 2 coat fwiw and yes I have friends who work at SW and use their paint as well as may others. You can do a great paint job with pretty much any paint if you use good tools and tequnique like shake them really well and strain them
I used Behr Premium Plus on our basement reno. Satin sheen, and "Cotton gray" as the color. We applied 2 coats of kilz2 over a knockdown texture. Then 2 coats of the Behr paint. Two 5-gallon buckets was more than enough for about 1200 sqft of basement. My initial impressions where that the paint was very thick, but spread really well with a 1/2" nap roller, and back rolling. I did not notice any splatter, but I do work slow and careful than a professional might to avoid messes. After 2-years the walls looks great! If they get dirty, simply wipe clean with a damp soft cloth or maybe a mild cleaner. We love the color so much that we decided to use the exact same paint upstairs to cover the off-white ugly stuff. What is amazing is that we purchased these paints 2 years apart, and I can use the new paint to touch up the 2-year old paint downstairs! For the upstairs, I applied a single coat of Kilz 2 to help block stains, flashing from hole repairs, etc. Only needed one 5-gallon bucket this time around to cover a living room, kitchen, and hallway with two coats. I've had zero issues with the Premium Plus from Behr. The "thickness" you mentioned does subside after it cures. This is not to say it's a superior product to SW, just giving my experience with it as a DIYer. Thanks for the content!
great idea by them that still drips (not as much) and introduces plastic to an industry where recyclable metal cans were fine with a simple plastic insert that reusable. I HATE these plastic cans now and will choose based on ones that are not plastic
Jeff, you have demonstrated the Behr brand paints and highlighted your concerns. Please do a comparison against what you have been using or what you consider to be better. I do not like painting but want to do the best job I can (after watching your videos again) with the best product the next time I have to paint. Thanks for all your educational videos!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY Walmart Color Palace is made by Sherwin Williams. It'd be interesting to compare it to others. We used the exterior semi-gloss 25 yrs ago with amazing results... just saying maybe don't disqualify store brands bc they're made by the same manufacturers
Hi Jeff, I am a retired paint chemist, and loved your video. I wish I had several hours to spend with you and explain the science behind everything you did here. To put this in perscective, the formulation of a paint and coating is almost always cost verrsus the desired performance. Stain blocking uses some unique pigments, addives, and nowdays, even unique polymers(latexes) to obtain this. A common pigment through the years has been zinc oxide, which is a bifunctional pigment. I has stain blocking effects, good hiding versus some of your inexpensive filler pigments, and even has microbiological benefits(keeps paint from spoiling in the can). As for the splattering, there are way too many reasons to explain here. The pigment volume concentration(pigment amount to polymer amount), and the biggest two, the latex sysstem used, and the thickening agents. Many of the polymers used to thicken a coating have worse or better spattering. But like everything, it's a cost benefit analysis. Paint formulaters can make paibt do just about anything you want. But government regs, and good old costs, which include raw materials, manufactoring, transportation, and in a case like Behr, marketing, determine what is practical. Keep up the great videos:)
@@stephaniem895 -- One simple reason might be that the home centers at least don't sell them in large containers, and small ones are always more expensive. Second is that you may find more oil based paints for furniture.
I agree with you 100%. I would like to see some ISO ASTM standard test results which have more controlled test parameters. One method I have used to pick a good paint, is to look at the ingredients listed on the can. More of the expensive ingredients usually equals a better paint. For example, TiO2 and the Acrylic latex are two the most expensive ingredients. The more of these ingredients the paint contains compared to the competition, the better the paint. TiO2 gives the best stain hiding and the more acrylic gives better washability and weather resistance. Cheaper paints will have more inexpensive CaCO3 filler. I admit this is an "in general statement" because there are different acrylics with different performance characteristics and paints contain different small amounts of ingredients like leveling agents that affect how a paint coats and spreads. Even TiO2 comes in different grinds and grind compositions. Thus, the final say must be determined by actual test results in a humidity-controlled lab under more controlled conditions on paint bought at random off the store shelves from different stores, to detect batch to batch variables in the paint.
Well said! The average person has no idea that volumes of whole books have been written on pretty much every thing you touched on here. One point you brought up is big, temperature and humidity. Most coatings testing happens at 77F. It's hard to have a humidity controlled room, but I actually did have one available at ExxonMobil. But even that was hard to control, with Houston being so high in humidity, arg. The only thing I really used that room for was testing polymer(latex) film permeability. Application temp and humidity is a huge variable also in things like viscosity, and of coarse changes things like splatter resistance, sag, ect. You might have great splatter resistance at 65F but take that up 5 or ten degrees, totally different. And it's not linear of coarse either. My kids tell me folks to never get dad started talking about paint lol. @@onebrightflash
I had a contractor suggest Behr i300. Depending on what / where you're painting, it worked great. Actually required two coats but, as suggested, that's almost a given. $24/gallon.
Jeff, you have no idea how much you’ve helped my family. We bought a project house and then found out that we were bringing a little one into the world. Our plans went from 2 years to yesterday. Because of your videos we’ve done doors, paint, trim, baseboards, more trim, but most importantly project management & planning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
I’ve been painting for 25 years. I never did commercial, only top-end homes outside of Boston. We used Benjamin Moore almost exclusively. About 6 years ago I had a customer insist I used Behr paint. I loved it. I now only use the premium plus on my projects. I agree with your assessment of the “top end” Behr products… just not worth it. This wasn’t just a “I found a new thing,” as I also had a customer insist I use Sherwin Williams paint and I will never touch that garbage again. I have had marker on a painted wall that I easily washed off with a magic eraser, so I would say the premium plus has a good deal of “washability” to it.
It's probably been about 8 years since I worked in the Home Depot paint section, but we worked very closely with the Behr rep fairly regularly. It was thanks to his product knowledge and willingness to test the paint that gave me a lot of confidence in Behr. What you said about Behr Premium is pretty true' its a good, low cost paint, a high end contractor paint paint. However, Behr Ultra isn't a one coat paint and never has been; that's the whole reason they introduced Marquee. Marquee, as well, is only a one coat guarantee with Marquee colors, too. I don't know anything about Dynasty, as it was released well after I had left that job. Every single one of those labels recommends using primer, as well. While they are stain blockers, when used correctly, and Marquee is proven washable when used correctly(I've watched permanent marker get washed off) marketing is always going to make outrageous claims on the front label. It's so, so important for consumers to read the label and follow instructions to get the best use of their paint. So, in my experience, a 10 x 10 room will take 2 Gallons of the Premium Plus, 2 Gallons of the Ultra, 1 Gallon of the Behr. Again, I can't vouch for Dynasty.
Been about 4 or 5 years for me since I was Paint DH for my 2nd time. Behr's OSR was pretty darn good in my market as well. They were very hands-on and high-energy as well as being long-standing rep for their company (I had the same Behr OSR in both locations I worked at for all 5 years I worked there, and they weren't brand new to begin with). I usually staged a couple cases of THD's "Best" paint starter kit at the desk as it had nice 3/8" woven roller covers inside. That was generally the right kit to use to paint the Behr. In addition I usually had to remind the homeowners to make a job of cleaning the existing walls and letting it all dry, if only to keep cobwebs off the final finish. My biggest reminder to people was this: all paints are primarily chemistry experiments. Follow their instructions and you can get their results.
Hi Jeff, My son in law said this video was a good watch. I have to agree. I am an older retired gentleman and still very active. I like to do my own work until I can't do it. I learned a lot from your video today. Thank you.
I'm a painter and usually use sherwin williams duration or emerald. During covid they were out of everything and i was forced to use behr. I've been pleasantly surprised with marquee and liked dynasty enough to use on my own house. Dynasty is my go to if someone wants flat sheen, it is easy to clean and holds up better than other flats. The behr i300 is a great paint for flip houses at a ridiculously cheap price point. Performs as well or better than SW promar 200. Downside of marquee is it films over and thickens fast in hot weather. Also the plastic behr lids are great with the spout. The ones without the spout are virtually impossible to reseal properly.
Hey there Jeff! I am one of your subscribers and I just wanted to tell you that I am thankful for your content and also your passion to share your efforts and trade skill knowledge. I just feel like you're a really good person and it's wonderful to see your videos. You add a lot of positive helpfulness. This world has a lot of unhealthy things in it and you are not one of them. Thanks again! You are awesome.
I've painted two full houses always using Behr Premium Plus and I love the result. As a DYI guy and painting my own house, I'm really satisfied with the results. And of course, a lot of techniques I learned from your videos. :)
I've had good luck in the past with the Behr Premium Plus. Just bought a new house last year and thought I would upgrade to the Marquis. Worst pain I've ever used. Weirdly thick but poor coverage.... Up to four coats in some rooms. I contacted Behr with some pictures and they gave me a 50% refund on the 28 cans I bought
Definitely would like to see Behr vs SW. I'm especially interested in getting paint that doesn't splatter everywhere. I'm clumsy and I want paint that stays in the roller.
Stain blocking very much depends on the nature of the stain and the type of paint. The rule of thumb is paints won't block stains which share their solvent/binder. For example, most permanent markers use a shellac based dye, so it will just bleed through shellac based paints/stains (such as BIN), but latex and oil paints should be able to block Sharpie stains given enough coats.
When covering permanent markers, a lot of the time it's better to just skim coat first. Then prime and paint. Of course with textured walls, that's always feasible.
Great video. I appreciate the way you break down the subtilties of quality vs. price vs. performance. The tips on technique such as, which way to turn the roller handle towards the direction you're moving, are golden!
Thank you! Great video! I'm not a professional painter, but I've been painting my own homes, and my apartments for years, and I learned a lot in this video
Hey Jeff, 40 years back I worked for a paint manufacturer that eventually became part of Sherwin Williams. We had paint sleds and zebra cards. A sled and card stock were common, back then. We would slide paint from 30 mils down to a half mil. The card would dry and you understood hiding power and spread thickness requirements. Very simple engineering calculations. Also, our chemist would tell employees, countless times, "paint dry time is based on temperature, humidity, and air flow". One last point, two years back I painted an old house with smokers, before I sold it. Berh worked great. But, serious stains would slowly bleed. Three weeks later I could see nicoteen EVERYWHERE. My best advise is use one coat of stain seal on all old work and 1-2 coats of finish on top. Stains can take weeks to show up. Thanks Jeff for this demo.
I’d love a comparison between Behr, SW, Valspar with two coats. I’d also love to see the difference of sanding between two coats and not sanding…using the best of the three.
Would love to see a video from you that shows or compares the different brushes/rollers. Soft vs Hard brushes, 10 vs 14 mm roller, etc. Love these new side by side test videos
Best painting video. Good information delivered straightforward without whiny annoying intros and talk. Thank you! I feel confident about my Behr paint choice now. Thanks.
Thanks for the comparisons! I've used Behr paints for years-not because I particularly liked them, but really just because they were convenient. I've repeatedly noticed the "heaviness" and excessive texture of the finishes and have thought that was an issue with my technique, but this helped me understand that is not the case. I'm going to try something else for my next painting project, possibly Sherwin-Williams Emerald.
Sherlock Wooster roller frames are great. I have a 9", 4" and 4" minI and won't use anything else. The locking rings holds tight on good quality rollers. A empty pail rim works great to tap off the roller keeping any mess from getting on the floor.
I've used a bunch of paints over the last 15 years professionally and many more before that. Often times I use whatever someone wants to buy. The best paints are the behr dynasty and Sherwin Williams emerald paint. Ppg has some products that I like for exterior metals and etc. Having said that. I'm not stuck on one paint over another. Situations help me determine what I use. If you want a low sheen paint, like flat or eggshell, and you're painting drywall anything will work with a couple coats, especially because flat paint is easy to fix with new paint and it will blend with an old coat. The only time I would consider using a more expensive single coat paint is if the colors are really different. For me the best time to use expensive paint is if you're painting something that needs to be extra durable like exterior trim. I also like to use expensive paint in places that are difficult to paint like around windows or up high like on the exterior fascia, especially if the paint underneath is really old and cracked. I dynasty is great stuff, but the marquee paint still has a lot of benefits at a lesser cost. Goes on thick. Good UV resistance. And you can back even years later, which I have, and paint over damage or something, and the paint will match perfectly like it was all new paint. 0 paint fade or discoloration.
@@DavidWood-qw8rq emerald is very good like I said, but if you factor in price and maybe color pallette/ease of procurement(location of paint), and etc, marquee is a very good option. And if you don't care about price, dynasty and emerald are equals. When's the last time you've used behr?
Yes, these product comparisons are very helpful and interesting! In addition to the dust product comparison, it allows for a natural technical discourse on different aspects that you observe along the way with each product.
I’ve used behr in both my houses and my office. For the last 12 years. I like it. It’s held up excellent. I usually use the premium ultra line. I painted my military truck with marquee though haha! I used sw at work a few times and it seems decent as well. But as far as durability and coverage I have had excellent results with behr and I usually use a half inch nap premium roller too, don’t know if that makes any difference
Thanks to your videos I have started my own handyman side business and painting is probably the highest requested things people want done. From what I’ve seen and done I always recommend a paint based on area. If it’s not a high traffic area then behrs premium is the go to that I recommend. If it’s high traffic then I normally recommend sherwin Williams emerald line. I would like to see a video comparing all of the cheapest options from the different companies out there (behr, SW, Dutch boy etc..) I think that would be insightful especially for they DIYers trying to save money.
I use Behr for all my home projects and love it. Just did a black accent wall in the living room. I always do two coats and backroll. Always comes out perfect. Also, those new spouts for the behr cans are great.
I disagree about the "new" can lids. You can't just stick a brush in for a small job. Also the silicone spouts don't work on them. The last time I bought Behr paint, it has this type of lid. I could get the the damned thing off the can. That in itself is one reason not to buy Berh.
Great video. As a facilities maintenance professional of 10 years, painting is another feather in my cap. While I don’t claim to be a professional master painter, some of it comes down to convenience especially as far as homeowners go. Chances are there’s a lowes or Home Depot close by, most of the time closer than a SW, BM or other. Many homeowners tend to be intimidated by those stores as well considering they cater to professionals. I’ve used SW paints and Behr paint - from matte to high gloss - and haven’t seen much difference. Depending on the work surface, previous color used and other factors, I generally always use a primer before hand. Additionally on paints that claim to be one coat, I always do two. It may be a bit pricey but when you consider how much it costs to do other home improvement projects, the walls are the biggest change you can make for the smallest amount of money and generally see a lot of wear and tear. If you can get a decade out of $500(or less) worth of paint(considering whole home) I’d say it’s worth it.
Tip, turn the can opener upside down and screw on for a spout🤔. I started painting my home using behr, it was close, kept using because I had to do a touch up years later and it blended perfect. Thanks for all your videos. You have been a major help in my diy process since my dad isnt here. He laid the foundation of diy in me, and with your help, i do not pay out to have a kot if things fixed and updated in my home. And yes, i do my best to teach my children as well . Thanks again Jeff!
The scuff defense is what I’d recommend for places like classrooms- it isn’t expensive, and you can wipe off almost anything (pencil, pen, shoe scuff) with a clorox wipe or alcohol wipe!
Loved that you did a comparison video. In my younger years, I worked at Sherwin Williams and sold their products and painted with their paint. Years later, I used Benjamin Moore, and in the last few years, I've been using Behr from Home Depot. I'd love to see comparisons on these products and hear your thoughts. Great video!
same here I have used all three and have always had excellent results with SW and Behr but years ago not so much with BM, I recently used BM again and it appears that they changed their formula as it went on and looked great. I have many surfaces painted in all three and there is no difference to appearance and they all are years old. I have not seen the value or benefit in the more expensive paints.
This video was both educational and entertaining! As an artist who has done a fair bit of scenic painting, I've become my friends' and families' go-to room painting assistant and it's good to see where I've been doing a good job (and what I could do a little more professionally!) I really love the side-by-side comparisons of both how it looks on the wall and what kind of mess it makes as you're loading your rollers. Super useful and cool!
I just painted my mom’s house using behr marquee… I wanted one coat coverage for time and ease of use. Loved it! Really enjoyed your video comparing the different behr products. Now I’d love to see behr compared to other brands like the one that you prefer.
Used Behr dynasty on my living room last year and premier plus in a couple bedrooms. You can definitely tell the quality difference with the dynasty, rolled on way thicker and the finish is like a hard candy coating almost. Used an eggshell finish for both
Excellent video, very helpful, thanks and keep up the great work, your videos have helped me no end - it is amazing how much my wife appreciates the decorating now!!
BM Ben line is the sweet spot for me. It's thick. It's 2 coats always works and for patch work it blends so well. No splatter and awesome with a x5 sprayer.
I'd love a comparison of Benjamin Moore paints. I'm a professional furniture painter and use Benjamin Moore Scuff-X weekly over their Stix primer. It works great for me, but I'd love a side by side comp.
I used the stix and bm advance combo on cabinets and it turned out really nice. Tried zinzer primer before that and it was horrible...like trying to sand gummy bears.
I worked for Benjamin moore for over a decade. INSL-X and Coronado were both excellent buyout for Benny. You'll be hard pressed to find a better primer than Stix. Zinsser Shellac isn't bad. You just need to spray it out and spray it out well. It's a waxy substance produced by beetles and it's definitely hard to sand. Stix's only downfall is going over heavy stains, and that's when shellac comes in for the rescue. There's never a "best product". Only a "right product for the job". No stains that'll bleed through? Go with Stix. Got stains? Grab some Zinnsser BIN and spray it out. That's how I roll at least. 🤷♂️
I used behr dynasty to paint the Doors and trim in a house that never had been painted since it was built in 1948. The old white oil paint had turned very yellow. White dynasty covered it in 1 coat no primer . I had tried BM Aura and it needed 2 coats. The dynasty dried quick and seems very hard and durable no sticking when you closed the doors
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 years hasn't peeled yet with kids living in the rooms. Besides I was just trying to cut back on my time and get outta there to get it sold
Going in on the end of 2nd year into our house and ive been watching alot of your videos because i want to paint the garage. Thanks for all the great painting information
I used Valspar for my two home renovations and loved its results. I switched to Sherwin Williams about 15 years ago and won’t use anything in my house now, which my Parents had built in 1976. Goes on great. Covers great and lasts a long time. Getting ready to repaint after 15 years and a kitchen stove fire smoked up the walls and ceiling!
The plastic trays and flexibility will cause the paint to bounce back more than the hard plastic or metal causing more splatter. You rolled softer on the cheaper paint (the last one) so it didn't splatter as much. That's what I noticed when you loaded the rollers.
Noticed that as well. He also didn’t sand the different prices painted equally. He had less pressure on the the cheap paint and applied heavy pressure on the higher ended paint. Seems disingenuous to me.
Your videos are always interesting and entertaining. I say keep exploring and do what you want! I’ll keep coming back whenever i need to do something in the house bc your channel is my encyclopedia brittanica on remodeling 🤣
Great video presentation and knowledgable advice to your viewers that reflects all the interior painting things I've also learned the hard way over the years. 😊
We normally use Sherwin Williams Emerald (think thats what its called) anytime we have rooms painted. Recently, i bought a gallon on Behr Marquee. Have to say, it felt just as good as the Sherwin. It covered great and looked amazing with one coat. Also, if you're using Behrs new can, why not use the free pour spout that comes with it?
I was surprised by your splatter test with the more expensive paints. We have always bought the least expensive paint in the Behr line and have been happy with it. No issues with splatter but we paint slowly. Great video!
I painted a rental 6 years ago that had badly stained walls. After washing the walls I used KILZ (original) for the base coat and Behr Marquee eggshell for the finish coat, it came out really nice, I would use it again. I take issue with the prices this gentleman quoted. Back then(2017), I paid $50/gallon for the Marquee; I just checked prices at my local Home Depot and it is selling for $52.98 per gallon. The Premium Plus is $35/gallon, the Dynasty is $62.98 Perhaps the Home Depot where he shops is located in a really ritzy neighborhood.
Awesome video - love watching your various topics and projects. Non pro painter, but I did a living room renovation, and part of it was painting 15' ceilings. I went with the Behr Dynasty and have to say I came away very impressed. Granted I work slow/methodical, and I like to enjoy my personal projects. I think it was $80/gallon back when I did the work, but the finish was absolutely uniform after one solid thick coat.
When I had a condo, I used Glidden, not knowing about paint quality and it was atrocious. When I bought my house, I got Behr Premium Plus Ultra (now called scuff defense). I never had an issue with it. Then I had a fire and the contractor swore by SW. Many pro painters I've encountered swear by SW or BM so I didn't object. He used the Super paint. In my experience, there's no durability. A year later, I found myself having to paint over every room that had a light color. I used the Premium Plus because my local HD reduced the price. I've never had any issues with Behr. I find the Marquee to be a little too harsh odor wise and the Dynasty is simply out of my price range.
Yeah, Glidden is some nasty stuff, basically water with some pigment powder of some sort in it. Places shouldn't even be allowed to sell it. It's so cheap, customers are always bringing it to me when I'm doing their remodels and don't like when I tell them I refuse to use that garbage, and if they insist, I tell them to hire someone else to paint.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Well that makes me not really question looking elsewhere! Is there a good way to tell how long you can use old paint? Moving into a house in the next month and have some pretty full cans of Dulux paint from our current place. Did some touch ups recently and the paint seemed fine once I mixed it, but any signs to look out for? Paint would be about 5-8 yrs old.
I'm a professional painter and I believe that Behr Marquee is the best paint on the market. Yes, it's thinner than other paints. I found that it covers better than any of them, including the Sherwin Williams and the Benjamin Moores--both of which are great brands. I find the thinner Marquee is much easier to work with for cutting in.
I've used Behr Marquee interior eggshell on furniture and projects for 15 years and I always go back to it. It has great sheen, smooth finish, complete coverage and silky feel to the touch.
We used the most expensive Behr. Since my wife did not like the odor, we switched to the two coat version. Never thought about sanding in between. Good tip as I have a round drywall sander as you used. We don’t do the closets the same color. So two gallons ($100) a room works out nicely.
Id like to see you do a blind comparison test where you don't know which paint is which. Use all the top name brands, it would be interesting to see which brand you would choose 🙂
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYthank you so much for ALL the videos! I'd love to see comparison videos, but would really value standardization for a more "scientific" conclusion. While it may not be possible without robots programmed with all the steps, at least try to be as consistent as possible.
When we repainted our house a couple years ago we went with Sico Prestige. It said 1 coat, but we did 2 anyways. The best part of it was the 2 hours to recoat so we could paint the living room, then go paint the dining room and by the time we were done that the living room could be repainted. Saved so much time it was worth the extra cost.
Jeff, I appreciate these comparison videos! I'd love to see a comparison of paints for bathrooms in southeast Louisiana (HOT & HUMID 😂), like Sherwin Williams Emerald, Duration, Benjamin Moore Aura, etc. I'm painting the ceilings, walls, trim, & vanities in 2 bathrooms (after I have to fix over 800 screw pops.. I wish that was an exaggeration 🤦🏼♀️)
Ouch. that is a lot of nail pops. the secret to hot and humid is A/C and not the paint. but if you don't have it then 100% acrylic is your best bet. Cheers to Louisiana!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thanks! I'll look for 100% acrylic. We do have A/C, but when we have hurricanes, we lose power. That is when things get ugly around here. The people that built this house were morons. I've learned so much from you over the last 4 years, not many housewives are doing what I'm doing. It makes me feel pretty accomplished. Thanks again 😊
The heat and humidity has been unbelievable this summer! I’ve delayed almost every home project I have due to it. A/C can’t keep up. I’m above New Orleans about 50 miles. Best wishes on tackling your home! Slow and easy…one room at a time. Don’t allow yourself to get overwhelmed. It’s easy to say, hard to do. 😊
Glidden by far the best out there. Been using Glidden for 40 years. You can tell when you poured it ($100 a gallon) it will splatter. The second one reminds me of $2.00 a gallon Woolworth paint. Thanks for your video.
I LOVE Behr paint! I haven’t used all their new expensive ones, but I’ve painted a LOT of walls with their old paint, which is probably your 2-coat one. I also realized I liked the smell of it when I used another brand and about gagged! Great video!
We've been using the Behr Premium Plus paint for years and love it. We are building a new house in 2024 so nice to see this test between the different Behr products.
😱 You blew my mind when you sanded the wall but didn't wipe it down afterward! Who would do this? That's a recipe for disaster. As a retired professional painter, I've used all the top brands and can't say that twice the price in paint guarantees better results. I've used Behr paint in my own home and have always achieved good results. My favorite paint, Muralo Waterborne outperformed any other water based paint I used, but is no longer available - it was worth the higher cost. Half of the time, the final finish of a wall will depend on the previous paints already on a wall, especially cheap flat paint. Like you said, the prep is more important for the final To ensure a nice finish over those, I would sand and wipe down, and prime before adding two coats of topcoat. Your close-up showed an awful lot of paint roller lint, not good, not caused by the paint. This video spent a lot of time without producing much wisdom regarding the value of the different paints to match their prices.
Asking a real estate agent whether you should buy a home right now is like to asking an alcoholic whether they think you should have a drink lol. Homes in my neighborhood that cost around $450k in sales in 2019 are now going for $800 to $950k. Every seller in my neighborhood is currently making a $350k profit. Simply unreal. In all honesty, deflation is what we require. The only other option is for many people to go bankrupt, which would also be bad for the economy. That is the only way to return to normal.
Personally, I can connect to that. When I began working with Margaret Johnson Arndt, a fiduciary financial counsellor, my advantages were certain. In these circumstances, I would always advise getting professional help so they can steer you through choppy markets and just give you indicators and strategies for knowing when to enter and exit the market.
Finding financial advisors like Margaret Johnson Arndt who can assist you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.
![FORTNITE CLASSICS IS BACK! Fortnite Item Shop [November 15th, 2024] (Fortnite Chapter 5)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RbQURbeFwqs/mqdefault.jpg)
![Eminem - Fuel (feat. JID) [Official Lyric Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/t5H_CewqpKA/mqdefault.jpg)
If you find this video helpful please subscribe. Learn How To Paint a Room👉🏼 ruclips.net/video/bLbUIevOxzY/видео.html
Jeff why did you choose that color? Lol
I've never had to wash a wall except a bit by a wall switch
Valspar at Lowe's is *worse*. It will actually dissolve mud on a repair and it never completely cures.
we do remodels and my favorite to use is valspar signature it is nice to work with and holds up well, second favorite is sherwin super paint but prefer the signature since it sags less. both cost about the same here 209 for valspar and 211 with sherwin discount both bought and used in the last month for different owners. Bher is good on coverage and holds up but boy does it like to sag you need to go back and check it a few times.
Sico?
Yes, please do a head to head series on paint comparisons. Don't forget to label the winners in different categories. We love these kinds of RUclips series.🎉
Cheers will do!
Yes this is exactly what we want! PPG vs Sherwin Williams etc etc Love the channel!!!!!
Agree - in some cases the paint store paints are even more confusing. For example, Sherwin (in the US) has their economy line (Superpaint), and then three higher lines that overlap in price, coverage, and finishes (Emerald, Cashmere, and Duration). In the pro line, they sell all these, plus ProMar 200/400.
As a DIY homeowner, with a major painting project maybe once every 4-5 years, I just don't use the stuff enough to know which of six different, but similar, interior latex paint lines is right in which situation. I'm totally guilty of just defaulting to HD/Behr because I'm already in there, and Premium Plus has always worked 'fine' as a two-coat paint for me.
I also found the finish of the one-coat paints underwhelming. They're like painting with oatmeal, and very easy to get sagging and/or flashing. In the end it's just easier to get a nice looking finish with two coats, and start with a product that's designed for that.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY absolutely would love to see you compare PPG, SW and BM side by side on a stained up wall. One room with one coat, another room with two coats - if you're really gonna get scientific about it..
@@JustinBilyj Could always just put 3 drywall sheets next to each other and not actually have to paint walls
Jeff, I'm an engineer and former co-owner of a construction company. I'm "retired" now but keep active by consulting. One of my primary oversight divisions was our painting division. We've had annual training from US-based paint companies in the use, application and coating complications that arise.
First thing I observed from your video -- you nailed it: using a 15 mm microfiber roller for all paints is a recipe for failure, especially with thicker paints. It's a common mistake -- one that is often overlooked by professionals and home owners alike.
Second, 400 SF/gal is wishful thinking by the paint companies' marketing departments (who, I believe, have never painted a room in their lives). 400 SF/gal may be applicable but only in ideal conditions. A better estimate is between 275 - 350 SF/gal depending on the condition of the interior surfaces. [More on that next.]
Third, repainting new home construction will (a) get coverage of about 300 SF/gal at best; and (b) you need to apply two (2) coats to seal the wall and get good color rendering no matter what brand/sheen/coverage claim. Most new homes in the US are drywall construction; most production painters (because of fixed cost contracts) do not prime drywall. They spray relatively inexpensive paints that dry quickly, so that 2 coats can be applied economically. The result is a "thirsty" wall; any 1st repaint will soak up lots of paint with poor color appearance (if using only 1 coat) no matter what the product label says about 1-coat coverage or not.
Four, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PAINT-AND-PRIMER IN ONE. Paint products are a chemical coating. Primer is chemically different from top coat paint. I'm 70 and this is the 3rd or 4th time the paint companies have rolled out this nonsense of all-in-one paint. According an engineering source at one of the two top paint brands in the US, all-in-ones simply have more solids added to them; that is, they're not primer, but wall paints with less transport agent and more of the solids. Solids are part of what makes the final paint coating hard. more solids blocks the existing undercoat from "bleeding through" after the newly applied top coat dries. But, what you gain from increased solids is lost as other components of paint -- like acrylics that make paint washable or scrubable are decreased.
Last, two (2) coats works better (for coverage and color rendering) than one (1) coat ... period. Coverage does not equal quality appearance. I got a lot of push-back on this from HOs and some painters, but once I took the HOs into a room where half of the room had 2 coats and the other half had 1-coat, the complaining stopped. Also, every sharp-eyed interior decorator readily noticed where my crews applied 1-coat vs 2-coats.
As for Behr Paints in general, IMHO they've deteriorated in quality since the early- to mid- 2000s. We used Behr Premium Plus back then and it was a decent paint. Now? Garbage.
My favorites:
For interior PPG (Speed-Hide, Hi-Hide Brilliant White (Flat) for white ceilings, UltraLast), Benjamin Moore (Arua, Regal) and S-W (Cashmere, Emerald) (in order);
Exterior: S-W (Resilience, Emerald), PPG (Acri-Shield Max, Permanizer), Benjamin-Moore (Aura, Element Guard).
20 years of owning a painting company and I agree with you on everything you said. I have used mostly PPG products. Manor Hall(Acri-shield Max) is my favorite exterior paint. Speed hide is a great product too,
This dude knows what he’s talking about! Behr is absolute rubbish. Agree with almost everything said here. The only parts I may not agree with is simply because I don’t have experience with that particular product but you nailed everything else so I trust the rest is coming from expensive. I’ve used Behr (multiple lines), Sherwin Williams (multiple lines), Benjamin Moore(multiple lines). Benjamin Moore Aura is an outstanding product. Go back to Behr from that and you’ll be wondering how they even sell that stuff.
No serious painter I know uses bher
Thank you for your detailed post, from obviously a great deal of experience. So, a new drywall should be primed using a dedicated primer, followed by 2 coats of the top coat? Sanding in between coats or is that only appropriate for older surfaces?
You nailed it. I won't buy any Behr products. SW and BM are the go-to paints for quality.
Ive watched your channel for years. I did my kitchen backsplash because of you. It failed my standards horribly BUT your videos showed me why (no ledger board for the first row) and its because I missed a bunch of steps haha. I redid it and it turned out PERFECTLY. I recently changed out my water heater myself because of you and it has been amazing for the last two months. Water tastes better, water is hotter, joints have held with me checking every 5 minutes of my life. I spent 800$ +- a few bucks to get the tools and materials needed when I was quoted 1k to 4k from a few sources around me. So thank you for saving me a few hundred to a few thousand just from me watching your videos. I painted MY WHOLE HOUSE and it looks AMAZING due to your tips and tricks. I replaced a sink, a disposal, redid my LVP flooring WITH underlayment, added screws when the floors squeaked. So thank you, if I had more money to burn I would be a top tier fan but im poor so I will just keep watching with the ad blocker off because the amount of money youve saved me has been so worth every second of your content. Im about to build my tool small shed (its under 120 square feet thats required for code here without a permit) so thank you for that too. Changing simple outlets, light switches, light fixtures. Whatever. Youve been the biggest help I could ever ask for and have been the BEST channel ive seen since ive been on this journey of finally owning my own house and figuring out how to do things myself.
Using my school account btw because online safety haha.
Yes! Been watching for years. Do a comparison from what you would personally use if you were doing the job. S-W vs PpG or S-W vs PpG vs Behr. Or all S-w vs Pp5 vs Behr vs B-M
As a paint chemist, I can add to this great video! Paint quality has two sides: initial qualities (color, spatter, hiding power, viscosity) and long-term performance (color fading, scrub resistance, peeling).
Remember, there's always a trade-off between price and features. Ask your paint store staff about qualities you need based on your project (rental unit, long-term use, etc.).
Great video, but paint quality goes beyond the initial application!
Hi Henry, is it possible to thicken acrylic paints without negatively impacting them? If so, how? Thanks in advance 🙏
Our whole house is Behr. Very satisfied with the performance.
Yes, please compare Benny Moore, Sherwin, Dulux and all the others. Thanks to you and the crew.
Jeff, 22years of painting experience here (only painting practically daily, not everything else like yourself). I'm here to confirm you were right about behr paints 20+years ago. The technology has changed greatly just like cell phones and the gallons today perform vastly superior across the entire product line. They also have cheaper contractor grade behr paints down to 25bucks a gallon that perform just as well as the 50 bucks variant. The golden standard, and the paint of your dreams, is going to be the Sherwin Williams emerald for walls. It leaves behind such a smooth even finish to where the entire wall looks like it was dipped in paint as one piece at a factory. Inspecting it from every angle imaginable, spreads like a dream (unlike these thick ones) and doesn't sacrifice coverage, ultra smooth finish, it just looks unreal, and if you know what you're looking at, which you clearly do, it'll be instantly noticeable. Everything will just look next level flawless. To really appreciate the difference you have to see it on a 20' tall wall with lots of side lighting. When we do high end homes it's our go-to product. And of course, as you've figured out in the video, a nice thick microfiber nap makes a world of difference during application.
Great insight, I've heard great things about emerald and I've also heard duration is a great trim paint. I personally have been using benjamin moore ultra spec 500 for the more economic jobs and something like Regal Select or Aura for high end.
Have you ever worked with Ecos Paint? If so how does it stack up relative to similar options?
Really interesting! Do you have experience with Benjamin Moore Regal Series Simply White? We just used it on a job and the painter mega struggled with coverage much more than our usual Sherwin Williams paints
My best friend, and probably worst house painter on earth, (she WILL 100000% get paint on ceiling, and all crown moulding) RAVED about the Sherwin Williams Emerald line and her cut ins looked pretty good for the worst painter on earth. And with your high praise, I can’t wait to try it!
May I ask you a few random questions about your favorite SW colors? What is your favorite bright? Your favorite super dark color (interested in what undertones you think like best for a dark wall). And what is your favorite sherwin Williams paint color of all time (even if you would NEVER personally use it.) It can be a white neutral, I won’t be mad about it. 😂 I’m a curious soul and I’m so interested in professionals and their answers.
Agree with this. Always used emerald as trim paint until homeowner was buying the paint for a job and bought the wall paint color in the trim paint and trim paint color in the wall paint. I was very happy with emerald for walls. Good thing to note there's 2 different versions, emerald and emerald urethane. The emerald urethane is great for trim but hard to work with because it's an alkyd. Kinda like a hybrid water based that acts like oil. It wouldnt be as good for walls in my opinion. Just some of my experience with it.
Always make sure Home Depot employees give you the pour spout for the true Behr lids with the little circle on the lid. They are free just like the stir stick and lid opener you didn’t ask for
Yep, I know....I was just crying watching that paint wasted!!
I knew about the stir sticks, but they will give you lid openers? My dad always just used a screwdriver but every project I've needed paint for I either had a Phillips head or no screwdriver so I always fight with it
@@Mitchacho74 Not the lid opener they have pour spouts that make pouring 10x easier.
@@Mitchacho74 They give you a poor spout, paint sticks and lid opener for free. You may need to ask them as they become very busy and customer service is sometimes questionable.
Can’t ever get those to work. The kids always get vacuumed sealed and break those free cones trying to unscrew them
My wife picked out the Behr Dynasty and we painted our whole home with it. Used a spray gun. It’s very flexible and durable. You definitely only need one coat as long as your drywall is already primed, or the wall already has a similar color paint.
The paint and Primer 2in1 ive never had to use 2 coats. I love it. Its been my go to for years. I also had 4 kids trashing my walls. Very washable and durable. ❤
Thank you so much, i was running through all the comments for someone to validate that me doing 1 coat of paint is enough as by looking at it I feel i do not need to do the drill all over again :D Also first time painting an entire house , so this helped me a lot.
Anyone who can admit when they're wrong gets respect in my book. Thanks for doing this review! I've not even put up drywall in my basement, but this will eventually come in handy. Until then, your other videos are invaluable! And I am living in a warzone in my home - 3 kids, 2 dogs (Great Pyrenees) and 2 cats. So I'll need "the good stuff."
Save yourself some heartache and prime/seal that drywall before finish coat painting. Your results will be better.
i just like your reply
As far as the 3rd gallon for inside closets...I generally recommend all closet interiors be bright white and eggshell. Any color in a closet just makes them dark. Flat paint in a closet does hide a lot of construction sins, but in trade for showing every touch, rub, or scrape of normal closet use. Your milage may vary.
It’s not only makes the closet look dark. It also makes it feel smaller.
Exactly! This has been my reasoning for years, why inside closets should pretty uniformly be painted white in a finish that is wipeable.
Re Closet. My thoughts exactly. Thanks for pointing that out.
And if they are white or off white you don't need to repaint them when you change the color of the room. I just went from pale blue grey to light cream on the walls and the closets are fine with both!
I had a 8 by 2 reach-in closet with mirrored doors perpendicular to a roughly 24"x 48" south-facing window. The bedroom wall paint was Behr Baja, basically a light khaki. I painted the inside of the closet a soft black, and everyone said it would make it too dark. I trusted my vision and glad I did. It made my clothing, shoes & accessories pop against the dark background, and low visibility was never an issue. It looked sleek and finished. The shallow depth with the added benefit of south facing window made this work, though I saw in there just fine with my normal overhead light in the evening. It's possibly my favorite design decision I've ever made. Context is key! We've since moved, and I'll be painting the interior closets very light pastel colors to up the LRV. Even my bedroom closet which has a sizable east-facing window will be a light color. I personally don't usually care for bright white closets. They look very spec home/ builder-grade to me. I like a little personality where I house my clothes
Always a fan of your channels! Yes, please do a head to head of the major paint brands. Let's make it as fair as possible and pull the cheapest line and the most expensive (or your preferred line) of each paint brand just like you did with Behr, using the recommended rollers/equipment for each and see the results side by side. Can't wait!
Deal!
As a DIYr who painted many rooms myself, I liked Behr paint because one coat seemed to do it.
I've used that Behr paint and primer product a ton and I have never had any issues with it - I actually really like it. I've never upgraded to the Behr higher quality paint because I figured at that price point you're getting close enough to a Sherwin Williams and I've never had any reason not to just use the "lower end" paint and primer.
I have only actually helped to paint walls once in my entire lifetime, so I am by far no expert but what I gather the most from this video is read the directions on whatever paint you’re buying and apply it with the proper equipment the way it tells you to apply it I think this is going to hold true with any paint no matter the cost. That is what I gather the most from this video. Thank you.
As a painting contractor the past 35 years I really enjoy watching you expain the quality difference that comes with price.
Explaining to customers point why I choose to use paint in any given situation is one of the most important things I do (except for prep).
Sorting through the variables with clients helps to put them at ease and establishes right up front that they made the right choice in hiring you. One just needs to be careful not to explain to the point that their eyes start to roll back in their head (this will happen just before the head explodes), they are not as interested. In all seriousness, there are many things that go into a paint job that will last 20 years and if a contractor uses inferior paint then the money saved on the front end will cost so much more in the longer run. Anything that prepares the client for making the right choice is better for all of us.
Thoughts on doing a blind test? Have someone else pour each brand in the trays before you enter the room. Results might be interesting and entertaining!
That would have made me feel like this test was less biased, especially if he threw in his beloved Sherwin Williams paint!...
😂😂😂
Agree since he already has a bias
I missed the part when he said it was a scientific test, and got out light measurers, and weighed the paint with a scale. Sily me- I thought he was giving us the opinion of a 30yr painter, not that of a scientist.
I agree he loaded the paint very rough for the second one. There was an audible difference
Yep too much bias. He sounded down right angry to even be trying Behr paint again. lol
I've used Behr paints for two decades. I'm impressed with their Exterior formula. It's been there for over 10 years on my 2d floor (botton is brick) and it still looks good, even on the South side which is fully exposed to sun. I do have wide eaves, too, so it's all around somewhat protected from water.
exterior tech is pretty good since 1990. It is the butt hanging out of your shorts wall paint that I can't stand. Cheers!
I must disagree with you.
Back in the 90s, I built a porch on to my house.
I pre primed everything with 2 coats of primer,. Before I started the build.
Once it was built, I purchased the best bear paint I could by at HD. A blue and a white.
I put 3 coats on this porch.
Within 2 years the paint started fading and pealing.
Total 💩.
More recently in 2018. I painted a duplex for this guy. And he'd already picked out the colors and paint he wanted to use.
Which you can guess what brand paint he chose.
Anyway I sprayed and back rolled it.
I prepped everything, especially all the trim, cause it was bad. The trim was white.
Anyway I got the exact same results.
Within 2 years the paint started to fade and peal.
Total 💩.
@@assog5737 Sorry to hear that, but it doesn't change my experience. I did have one incident where I went to buy exterior paint and the associate pulled interior paint base, which I didn't noitce, but my painter did when she began putting it on the next day. I returned it and got replacement. That lasted 7 years until i got tired of the color and put on what I have now.
I LOVE Behr paint. I PUT 1 COAT coverage to the challenge all the time. Just FYI, Behr has a free pourspout that you screw right into the little circle that comes off the top.
Also, the entire lid comes off, so that you can reposition the pourspout and hammer it back on. And Behr paint doesn't seem to stink like Sherwin Williams paints stink.
Really enjoy your videos. TY
check the age of your paint (might have been on the shelf for 3 years) old psint smells from all manufacturers - I too prefer Behr paint. Painter for over 40 years. In my opinion there is no 1 coat paint, they fill them full of titanium dioxide to get opacity with the trade off of less of the other stuff. 2 thin coats always wins. My favorite paint of all is Behr Ultra Skuff resistant 2 coat fwiw and yes I have friends who work at SW and use their paint as well as may others. You can do a great paint job with pretty much any paint if you use good tools and tequnique like shake them really well and strain them
I used Behr Premium Plus on our basement reno. Satin sheen, and "Cotton gray" as the color. We applied 2 coats of kilz2 over a knockdown texture. Then 2 coats of the Behr paint. Two 5-gallon buckets was more than enough for about 1200 sqft of basement.
My initial impressions where that the paint was very thick, but spread really well with a 1/2" nap roller, and back rolling. I did not notice any splatter, but I do work slow and careful than a professional might to avoid messes.
After 2-years the walls looks great! If they get dirty, simply wipe clean with a damp soft cloth or maybe a mild cleaner.
We love the color so much that we decided to use the exact same paint upstairs to cover the off-white ugly stuff. What is amazing is that we purchased these paints 2 years apart, and I can use the new paint to touch up the 2-year old paint downstairs!
For the upstairs, I applied a single coat of Kilz 2 to help block stains, flashing from hole repairs, etc. Only needed one 5-gallon bucket this time around to cover a living room, kitchen, and hallway with two coats.
I've had zero issues with the Premium Plus from Behr. The "thickness" you mentioned does subside after it cures.
This is not to say it's a superior product to SW, just giving my experience with it as a DIYer. Thanks for the content!
That can also has a plastic spout (from the store) that helps remove the cap and prevents paint from running down the side when your pour it.
Yea they just started doing that at my local HD. A total game changer for me.
You have to ask for it most of the time. The several times ive gotten paint for jobs i have to ask for it.
@@tr1ggerCxreally? They just gave the stack of spouts at mine and you can grab one.
I always forgot to ask about it, until a year later. I asked them and they said it's on the counter. , I grabbed a couple. lol
great idea by them that still drips (not as much) and introduces plastic to an industry where recyclable metal cans were fine with a simple plastic insert that reusable. I HATE these plastic cans now and will choose based on ones that are not plastic
Jeff, you have demonstrated the Behr brand paints and highlighted your concerns. Please do a comparison against what you have been using or what you consider to be better. I do not like painting but want to do the best job I can (after watching your videos again) with the best product the next time I have to paint. Thanks for all your educational videos!
Great suggestion!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
Walmart Color Palace is made by Sherwin Williams. It'd be interesting to compare it to others. We used the exterior semi-gloss 25 yrs ago with amazing results... just saying maybe don't disqualify store brands bc they're made by the same manufacturers
Hi Jeff,
I am a retired paint chemist, and loved your video. I wish I had several hours to spend with you and explain the science behind everything you did here. To put this in perscective, the formulation of a paint and coating is almost always cost verrsus the desired performance. Stain blocking uses some unique pigments, addives, and nowdays, even unique polymers(latexes) to obtain this. A common pigment through the years has been zinc oxide, which is a bifunctional pigment. I has stain blocking effects, good hiding versus some of your inexpensive filler pigments, and even has microbiological benefits(keeps paint from spoiling in the can). As for the splattering, there are way too many reasons to explain here. The pigment volume concentration(pigment amount to polymer amount), and the biggest two, the latex sysstem used, and the thickening agents. Many of the polymers used to thicken a coating have worse or better spattering. But like everything, it's a cost benefit analysis. Paint formulaters can make paibt do just about anything you want. But government regs, and good old costs, which include raw materials, manufactoring, transportation, and in a case like Behr, marketing, determine what is practical. Keep up the great videos:)
I’m a furniture painter….I’ve wondered why the furniture paints are so so expensive!
@@stephaniem895 -- One simple reason might be that the home centers at least don't sell them in large containers, and small ones are always more expensive. Second is that you may find more oil based paints for furniture.
Umm,your an idiot from a 30 yr painter😂
I agree with you 100%. I would like to see some ISO ASTM standard test results which have more controlled test parameters. One method I have used to pick a good paint, is to look at the ingredients listed on the can. More of the expensive ingredients usually equals a better paint. For example, TiO2 and the Acrylic latex are two the most expensive ingredients. The more of these ingredients the paint contains compared to the competition, the better the paint. TiO2 gives the best stain hiding and the more acrylic gives better washability and weather resistance. Cheaper paints will have more inexpensive CaCO3 filler. I admit this is an "in general statement" because there are different acrylics with different performance characteristics and paints contain different small amounts of ingredients like leveling agents that affect how a paint coats and spreads. Even TiO2 comes in different grinds and grind compositions. Thus, the final say must be determined by actual test results in a humidity-controlled lab under more controlled conditions on paint bought at random off the store shelves from different stores, to detect batch to batch variables in the paint.
Well said! The average person has no idea that volumes of whole books have been written on pretty much every thing you touched on here. One point you brought up is big, temperature and humidity. Most coatings testing happens at 77F. It's hard to have a humidity controlled room, but I actually did have one available at ExxonMobil. But even that was hard to control, with Houston being so high in humidity, arg. The only thing I really used that room for was testing polymer(latex) film permeability. Application temp and humidity is a huge variable also in things like viscosity, and of coarse changes things like splatter resistance, sag, ect. You might have great splatter resistance at 65F but take that up 5 or ten degrees, totally different. And it's not linear of coarse either. My kids tell me folks to never get dad started talking about paint lol. @@onebrightflash
Great test. I normally use the $50 Behr paint, and have been happy with the results in every room.
I had a contractor suggest Behr i300. Depending on what / where you're painting, it worked great. Actually required two coats but, as suggested, that's almost a given. $24/gallon.
Jeff, you have no idea how much you’ve helped my family. We bought a project house and then found out that we were bringing a little one into the world. Our plans went from 2 years to yesterday. Because of your videos we’ve done doors, paint, trim, baseboards, more trim, but most importantly project management & planning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
I’ve been painting for 25 years. I never did commercial, only top-end homes outside of Boston. We used Benjamin Moore almost exclusively. About 6 years ago I had a customer insist I used Behr paint. I loved it. I now only use the premium plus on my projects. I agree with your assessment of the “top end” Behr products… just not worth it. This wasn’t just a “I found a new thing,” as I also had a customer insist I use Sherwin Williams paint and I will never touch that garbage again. I have had marker on a painted wall that I easily washed off with a magic eraser, so I would say the premium plus has a good deal of “washability” to it.
Sherwin Williams is garbage. Expensive and doesn’t cover or last long. I’m a big fan of Behr premium plus.
It's probably been about 8 years since I worked in the Home Depot paint section, but we worked very closely with the Behr rep fairly regularly. It was thanks to his product knowledge and willingness to test the paint that gave me a lot of confidence in Behr. What you said about Behr Premium is pretty true' its a good, low cost paint, a high end contractor paint paint. However, Behr Ultra isn't a one coat paint and never has been; that's the whole reason they introduced Marquee. Marquee, as well, is only a one coat guarantee with Marquee colors, too. I don't know anything about Dynasty, as it was released well after I had left that job.
Every single one of those labels recommends using primer, as well. While they are stain blockers, when used correctly, and Marquee is proven washable when used correctly(I've watched permanent marker get washed off) marketing is always going to make outrageous claims on the front label. It's so, so important for consumers to read the label and follow instructions to get the best use of their paint.
So, in my experience, a 10 x 10 room will take 2 Gallons of the Premium Plus, 2 Gallons of the Ultra, 1 Gallon of the Behr. Again, I can't vouch for Dynasty.
Been about 4 or 5 years for me since I was Paint DH for my 2nd time. Behr's OSR was pretty darn good in my market as well. They were very hands-on and high-energy as well as being long-standing rep for their company (I had the same Behr OSR in both locations I worked at for all 5 years I worked there, and they weren't brand new to begin with). I usually staged a couple cases of THD's "Best" paint starter kit at the desk as it had nice 3/8" woven roller covers inside. That was generally the right kit to use to paint the Behr. In addition I usually had to remind the homeowners to make a job of cleaning the existing walls and letting it all dry, if only to keep cobwebs off the final finish.
My biggest reminder to people was this: all paints are primarily chemistry experiments. Follow their instructions and you can get their results.
Dynasty is good paint, it’s just very thick.
Hi Jeff, My son in law said this video was a good watch. I have to agree. I am an older retired gentleman and still very active. I like to do my own work until I can't do it. I learned a lot from your video today. Thank you.
I'm a painter and usually use sherwin williams duration or emerald. During covid they were out of everything and i was forced to use behr. I've been pleasantly surprised with marquee and liked dynasty enough to use on my own house. Dynasty is my go to if someone wants flat sheen, it is easy to clean and holds up better than other flats. The behr i300 is a great paint for flip houses at a ridiculously cheap price point. Performs as well or better than SW promar 200. Downside of marquee is it films over and thickens fast in hot weather. Also the plastic behr lids are great with the spout. The ones without the spout are virtually impossible to reseal properly.
Hey there Jeff! I am one of your subscribers and I just wanted to tell you that I am thankful for your content and also your passion to share your efforts and trade skill knowledge.
I just feel like you're a really good person and it's wonderful to see your videos. You add a lot of positive helpfulness. This world has a lot of unhealthy things in it and you are not one of them. Thanks again! You are awesome.
I've painted two full houses always using Behr Premium Plus and I love the result. As a DYI guy and painting my own house, I'm really satisfied with the results. And of course, a lot of techniques I learned from your videos. :)
I've had good luck in the past with the Behr Premium Plus. Just bought a new house last year and thought I would upgrade to the Marquis. Worst pain I've ever used. Weirdly thick but poor coverage.... Up to four coats in some rooms.
I contacted Behr with some pictures and they gave me a 50% refund on the 28 cans I bought
@@sociopathmercenary Why are some of these paints as thick as mayonnaise?
Definitely would like to see Behr vs SW. I'm especially interested in getting paint that doesn't splatter everywhere. I'm clumsy and I want paint that stays in the roller.
Great suggestion!
I love sherwin williams, but I go slumming sometimes...
Agreed. I've used SW, Bear and Valspar. I personally prefer Valspar over both. Never had good luck with SW, especially their semi-gloss trim paint.
SW Emerald Urethane is what you want for trim. Beautiful paint!@@seephor
Project Farm has compared some of these
Stain blocking very much depends on the nature of the stain and the type of paint. The rule of thumb is paints won't block stains which share their solvent/binder. For example, most permanent markers use a shellac based dye, so it will just bleed through shellac based paints/stains (such as BIN), but latex and oil paints should be able to block Sharpie stains given enough coats.
When covering permanent markers, a lot of the time it's better to just skim coat first. Then prime and paint. Of course with textured walls, that's always feasible.
Great video. I appreciate the way you break down the subtilties of quality vs. price vs. performance. The tips on technique such as, which way to turn the roller handle towards the direction you're moving, are golden!
Thank you! Great video! I'm not a professional painter, but I've been painting my own homes, and my apartments for years, and I learned a lot in this video
Hey Jeff, 40 years back I worked for a paint manufacturer that eventually became part of Sherwin Williams. We had paint sleds and zebra cards. A sled and card stock were common, back then. We would slide paint from 30 mils down to a half mil. The card would dry and you understood hiding power and spread thickness requirements. Very simple engineering calculations. Also, our chemist would tell employees, countless times, "paint dry time is based on temperature, humidity, and air flow". One last point, two years back I painted an old house with smokers, before I sold it. Berh worked great. But, serious stains would slowly bleed. Three weeks later I could see nicoteen EVERYWHERE. My best advise is use one coat of stain seal on all old work and 1-2 coats of finish on top. Stains can take weeks to show up. Thanks Jeff for this demo.
Hi Jeff. I use Sherwin Williams mostly, but sometimes the Behr paint. I would like to see the comparison. I am a two coater as well.
During yeah
Duron
I’d love a comparison between Behr, SW, Valspar with two coats. I’d also love to see the difference of sanding between two coats and not sanding…using the best of the three.
Sw... all day
Would love to see a video from you that shows or compares the different brushes/rollers. Soft vs Hard brushes, 10 vs 14 mm roller, etc.
Love these new side by side test videos
Best painting video. Good information delivered straightforward without whiny annoying intros and talk. Thank you! I feel confident about my Behr paint choice now. Thanks.
I just renovated my old home and LOVE Behr paint. It covers great!
Thanks for the comparisons! I've used Behr paints for years-not because I particularly liked them, but really just because they were convenient. I've repeatedly noticed the "heaviness" and excessive texture of the finishes and have thought that was an issue with my technique, but this helped me understand that is not the case. I'm going to try something else for my next painting project, possibly Sherwin-Williams Emerald.
I’m actually loving the roller removal tap. Definitely a pro painter move!
Sherlock Wooster roller frames are great. I have a 9", 4" and 4" minI and won't use anything else. The locking rings holds tight on good quality rollers.
A empty pail rim works great to tap off the roller keeping any mess from getting on the floor.
Yes, do the comparisons against other brands. I’m sooooo conflicted on what to use!
I've used a bunch of paints over the last 15 years professionally and many more before that. Often times I use whatever someone wants to buy. The best paints are the behr dynasty and Sherwin Williams emerald paint. Ppg has some products that I like for exterior metals and etc. Having said that. I'm not stuck on one paint over another.
Situations help me determine what I use.
If you want a low sheen paint, like flat or eggshell, and you're painting drywall anything will work with a couple coats, especially because flat paint is easy to fix with new paint and it will blend with an old coat. The only time I would consider using a more expensive single coat paint is if the colors are really different.
For me the best time to use expensive paint is if you're painting something that needs to be extra durable like exterior trim. I also like to use expensive paint in places that are difficult to paint like around windows or up high like on the exterior fascia, especially if the paint underneath is really old and cracked.
I dynasty is great stuff, but the marquee paint still has a lot of benefits at a lesser cost. Goes on thick. Good UV resistance. And you can back even years later, which I have, and paint over damage or something, and the paint will match perfectly like it was all new paint. 0 paint fade or discoloration.
There are no Behr products that are worth it.
SW emerald is the only way to go
@@DavidWood-qw8rq marquee and emerald are basically on the same level. I've used both plenty and can't go wrong with either.
@@DavidWood-qw8rq emerald is very good like I said, but if you factor in price and maybe color pallette/ease of procurement(location of paint), and etc, marquee is a very good option. And if you don't care about price, dynasty and emerald are equals. When's the last time you've used behr?
Valspar is really good.
Love the Marquis Behr paint. I am 71 and a landlord. Satin one coat for me.
Yes, these product comparisons are very helpful and interesting! In addition to the dust product comparison, it allows for a natural technical discourse on different aspects that you observe along the way with each product.
I’ve used behr in both my houses and my office. For the last 12 years. I like it. It’s held up excellent. I usually use the premium ultra line. I painted my military truck with marquee though haha! I used sw at work a few times and it seems decent as well. But as far as durability and coverage I have had excellent results with behr and I usually use a half inch nap premium roller too, don’t know if that makes any difference
Thanks to your videos I have started my own handyman side business and painting is probably the highest requested things people want done. From what I’ve seen and done I always recommend a paint based on area. If it’s not a high traffic area then behrs premium is the go to that I recommend. If it’s high traffic then I normally recommend sherwin Williams emerald line. I would like to see a video comparing all of the cheapest options from the different companies out there (behr, SW, Dutch boy etc..) I think that would be insightful especially for they DIYers trying to save money.
I use Behr for all my home projects and love it. Just did a black accent wall in the living room. I always do two coats and backroll. Always comes out perfect. Also, those new spouts for the behr cans are great.
I disagree about the "new" can lids. You can't just stick a brush in for a small job. Also the silicone spouts don't work on them. The last time I bought Behr paint, it has this type of lid. I could get the the damned thing off the can. That in itself is one reason not to buy Berh.
@lancedoyle5026 I use a small plastic reusable pale for small projects. Those spouts keep me from spilling paint everywhere. To each their own 😉
Great video. As a facilities maintenance professional of 10 years, painting is another feather in my cap. While I don’t claim to be a professional master painter, some of it comes down to convenience especially as far as homeowners go. Chances are there’s a lowes or Home Depot close by, most of the time closer than a SW, BM or other. Many homeowners tend to be intimidated by those stores as well considering they cater to professionals. I’ve used SW paints and Behr paint - from matte to high gloss - and haven’t seen much difference. Depending on the work surface, previous color used and other factors, I generally always use a primer before hand. Additionally on paints that claim to be one coat, I always do two. It may be a bit pricey but when you consider how much it costs to do other home improvement projects, the walls are the biggest change you can make for the smallest amount of money and generally see a lot of wear and tear. If you can get a decade out of $500(or less) worth of paint(considering whole home) I’d say it’s worth it.
Tip, turn the can opener upside down and screw on for a spout🤔.
I started painting my home using behr, it was close, kept using because I had to do a touch up years later and it blended perfect.
Thanks for all your videos. You have been a major help in my diy process since my dad isnt here. He laid the foundation of diy in me, and with your help, i do not pay out to have a kot if things fixed and updated in my home. And yes, i do my best to teach my children as well . Thanks again Jeff!
The scuff defense is what I’d recommend for places like classrooms- it isn’t expensive, and you can wipe off almost anything (pencil, pen, shoe scuff) with a clorox wipe or alcohol wipe!
Loved that you did a comparison video. In my younger years, I worked at Sherwin Williams and sold their products and painted with their paint. Years later, I used Benjamin Moore, and in the last few years, I've been using Behr from Home Depot. I'd love to see comparisons on these products and hear your thoughts. Great video!
same here I have used all three and have always had excellent results with SW and Behr but years ago not so much with BM, I recently used BM again and it appears that they changed their formula as it went on and looked great. I have many surfaces painted in all three and there is no difference to appearance and they all are years old. I have not seen the value or benefit in the more expensive paints.
I been painting for long time I agree with you about home depot the sagging was the main reason I don't like the paint and shine like all your video
Great video. I would like to also see brand comparison as you discussed.
Thanks, Dan😊
This video was both educational and entertaining! As an artist who has done a fair bit of scenic painting, I've become my friends' and families' go-to room painting assistant and it's good to see where I've been doing a good job (and what I could do a little more professionally!) I really love the side-by-side comparisons of both how it looks on the wall and what kind of mess it makes as you're loading your rollers. Super useful and cool!
I just painted my mom’s house using behr marquee… I wanted one coat coverage for time and ease of use. Loved it! Really enjoyed your video comparing the different behr products. Now I’d love to see behr compared to other brands like the one that you prefer.
Been painting 35 yrs. I love BEHR.
Used Behr dynasty on my living room last year and premier plus in a couple bedrooms. You can definitely tell the quality difference with the dynasty, rolled on way thicker and the finish is like a hard candy coating almost. Used an eggshell finish for both
Excellent video, very helpful, thanks and keep up the great work, your videos have helped me no end - it is amazing how much my wife appreciates the decorating now!!
Yes, I would like to see another comparison of the paints. I used to buy at Home Depot but I switched to Sherwin
which line do you use...and did you open a pro account and get the huge discount?
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY sorry just DIY painting house and others
Great Video! And YES..give more comparisons! What is best...and why? And also, need some videos on best Exterior paints!
Thanks!
BM Ben line is the sweet spot for me. It's thick. It's 2 coats always works and for patch work it blends so well. No splatter and awesome with a x5 sprayer.
I'd love a comparison of Benjamin Moore paints. I'm a professional furniture painter and use Benjamin Moore Scuff-X weekly over their Stix primer. It works great for me, but I'd love a side by side comp.
I used the stix and bm advance combo on cabinets and it turned out really nice. Tried zinzer primer before that and it was horrible...like trying to sand gummy bears.
I worked for Benjamin moore for over a decade.
INSL-X and Coronado were both excellent buyout for Benny. You'll be hard pressed to find a better primer than Stix.
Zinsser Shellac isn't bad. You just need to spray it out and spray it out well. It's a waxy substance produced by beetles and it's definitely hard to sand.
Stix's only downfall is going over heavy stains, and that's when shellac comes in for the rescue.
There's never a "best product". Only a "right product for the job".
No stains that'll bleed through? Go with Stix.
Got stains? Grab some Zinnsser BIN and spray it out.
That's how I roll at least. 🤷♂️
Head to head comparison between major brands would be awesome.
coming soon!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYthat would be great since sw here the cheapest was $80 a gallon
I used behr dynasty to paint the
Doors and trim in a house that never had been painted since it was built in 1948. The old white oil paint had turned very yellow. White dynasty covered it in 1 coat no primer . I had tried BM Aura and it needed 2 coats. The dynasty dried quick and seems very hard and durable no sticking when you closed the doors
that is the wrong paint and it will peel under pressure. always use a transition primer when going from oil based to water based paints.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 years hasn't peeled yet with kids living in the rooms. Besides I was just trying to cut back on my time and get outta there to get it sold
@@StevesbeYou just got lucky. Never paint over oil paint with latex unless you sand it down to the base or use a grip primer
Going in on the end of 2nd year into our house and ive been watching alot of your videos because i want to paint the garage. Thanks for all the great painting information
I used Valspar for my two home renovations and loved its results. I switched to Sherwin Williams about 15 years ago and won’t use anything in my house now, which my Parents had built in 1976. Goes on great. Covers great and lasts a long time. Getting ready to repaint after 15 years and a kitchen stove fire smoked up the walls and ceiling!
"won’t use anything in my last house"? Sorry doesn't make sense.
@@andrewfreeman88 hope the edit makes sense now! Thanks for pointing that out to me.
@@Cbtrainnut Okay won't use anything "Else" in your house now.
The plastic trays and flexibility will cause the paint to bounce back more than the hard plastic or metal causing more splatter. You rolled softer on the cheaper paint (the last one) so it didn't splatter as much. That's what I noticed when you loaded the rollers.
I agree. I think he's making a undesired result on purpose.
Totally agree!!@@Freight_Train
Agreed - I love the coverage that the cheap paint had on the motion sensor that was hanging on the wall.
Noticed that as well.
He also didn’t sand the different prices painted equally. He had less pressure on the the cheap paint and applied heavy pressure on the higher ended paint. Seems disingenuous to me.
Load slower. I used all sorts of paint and never had splatter like that.
Your videos are always interesting and entertaining. I say keep exploring and do what you want! I’ll keep coming back whenever i need to do something in the house bc your channel is my encyclopedia brittanica on remodeling 🤣
OMG. I actually remember the door to door salesman from my day selling those books. LOL
great review. love to see SW, BM and Behr compair
working on it. Maker sure to subscribe and get the notification when it comes out.
I can’t tell you how much I enjoy your videos. You’ve inspired me to build my own shed! I’m following the A to Z shed build right now, here in Oregon.
loving it!
Great video presentation and knowledgable advice to your viewers that reflects all the interior painting things I've also learned the hard way over the years. 😊
We normally use Sherwin Williams Emerald (think thats what its called) anytime we have rooms painted. Recently, i bought a gallon on Behr Marquee. Have to say, it felt just as good as the Sherwin. It covered great and looked amazing with one coat. Also, if you're using Behrs new can, why not use the free pour spout that comes with it?
I was surprised by your splatter test with the more expensive paints. We have always bought the least expensive paint in the Behr line and have been happy with it. No issues with splatter but we paint slowly. Great video!
I painted a rental 6 years ago that had badly stained walls.
After washing the walls I used KILZ (original) for the base coat and Behr Marquee eggshell for the finish coat, it came out really nice, I would use it again.
I take issue with the prices this gentleman quoted.
Back then(2017), I paid $50/gallon for the Marquee; I just checked prices at my local Home Depot and it is selling for $52.98 per gallon.
The Premium Plus is $35/gallon, the Dynasty is $62.98
Perhaps the Home Depot where he shops is located in a really ritzy neighborhood.
I live in Canada. we have much higher prices for everything. Cheers!
Awesome video - love watching your various topics and projects. Non pro painter, but I did a living room renovation, and part of it was painting 15' ceilings. I went with the Behr Dynasty and have to say I came away very impressed. Granted I work slow/methodical, and I like to enjoy my personal projects. I think it was $80/gallon back when I did the work, but the finish was absolutely uniform after one solid thick coat.
Interesting and educational. Thank you!
Really like the two-coat sanding in-between method.
When I had a condo, I used Glidden, not knowing about paint quality and it was atrocious. When I bought my house, I got Behr Premium Plus Ultra (now called scuff defense). I never had an issue with it. Then I had a fire and the contractor swore by SW. Many pro painters I've encountered swear by SW or BM so I didn't object. He used the Super paint. In my experience, there's no durability. A year later, I found myself having to paint over every room that had a light color. I used the Premium Plus because my local HD reduced the price. I've never had any issues with Behr. I find the Marquee to be a little too harsh odor wise and the Dynasty is simply out of my price range.
Yeah, Glidden is some nasty stuff, basically water with some pigment powder of some sort in it. Places shouldn't even be allowed to sell it. It's so cheap, customers are always bringing it to me when I'm doing their remodels and don't like when I tell them I refuse to use that garbage, and if they insist, I tell them to hire someone else to paint.
Premium Plus is an excellent paint and performs well. It is the one I used and has never failed me.
You need to do this same comparison between Behr, SW, BM, and Valspar
Been really happy with using Dulux Diamond and Lifemaster lines. Would love to see comparisons with other brands.
love me some dulux. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Well that makes me not really question looking elsewhere! Is there a good way to tell how long you can use old paint? Moving into a house in the next month and have some pretty full cans of Dulux paint from our current place. Did some touch ups recently and the paint seemed fine once I mixed it, but any signs to look out for? Paint would be about 5-8 yrs old.
I've been using leftover white paint from painting the trim as a primer. Works for me and saves a lot of money on expensive primer too.
I'm a professional painter and I believe that Behr Marquee is the best paint on the market. Yes, it's thinner than other paints. I found that it covers better than any of them, including the Sherwin Williams and the Benjamin Moores--both of which are great brands. I find the thinner Marquee is much easier to work with for cutting in.
VERY interesting! Would definitely love to see a comparison between manufacturers!
It would have been nice to see how the cheapest paint covered the marker stain even though it didn’t claim to have the ability
Would have loved to seen if the cheap Behr paint without the stain blocking technology covered the marker as well! Great video as always!
I've used Behr Marquee interior eggshell on furniture and projects for 15 years and I always go back to it. It has great sheen, smooth finish, complete coverage and silky feel to the touch.
We used the most expensive Behr. Since my wife did not like the odor, we switched to the two coat version. Never thought about sanding in between. Good tip as I have a round drywall sander as you used. We don’t do the closets the same color. So two gallons ($100) a room works out nicely.
Id like to see you do a blind comparison test where you don't know which paint is which. Use all the top name brands, it would be interesting to see which brand you would choose 🙂
Great suggestion!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYthank you so much for ALL the videos!
I'd love to see comparison videos, but would really value standardization for a more "scientific" conclusion. While it may not be possible without robots programmed with all the steps, at least try to be as consistent as possible.
When we repainted our house a couple years ago we went with Sico Prestige. It said 1 coat, but we did 2 anyways. The best part of it was the 2 hours to recoat so we could paint the living room, then go paint the dining room and by the time we were done that the living room could be repainted. Saved so much time it was worth the extra cost.
Jeff, I appreciate these comparison videos! I'd love to see a comparison of paints for bathrooms in southeast Louisiana (HOT & HUMID 😂), like Sherwin Williams Emerald, Duration, Benjamin Moore Aura, etc. I'm painting the ceilings, walls, trim, & vanities in 2 bathrooms (after I have to fix over 800 screw pops.. I wish that was an exaggeration 🤦🏼♀️)
Ouch. that is a lot of nail pops. the secret to hot and humid is A/C and not the paint. but if you don't have it then 100% acrylic is your best bet. Cheers to Louisiana!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thanks! I'll look for 100% acrylic. We do have A/C, but when we have hurricanes, we lose power. That is when things get ugly around here. The people that built this house were morons. I've learned so much from you over the last 4 years, not many housewives are doing what I'm doing. It makes me feel pretty accomplished. Thanks again 😊
The heat and humidity has been unbelievable this summer! I’ve delayed almost every home project I have due to it. A/C can’t keep up. I’m above New Orleans about 50 miles. Best wishes on tackling your home! Slow and easy…one room at a time. Don’t allow yourself to get overwhelmed. It’s easy to say, hard to do. 😊
@@Xrager101x I'm from Ponchatoula, but I live in Walker now. The heat has been crazy. The wildfires, though...so scary. We aren't used to that!
Glidden by far the best out there. Been using Glidden for 40 years. You can tell when you poured it ($100 a gallon) it will splatter. The second one reminds me of $2.00 a gallon Woolworth paint. Thanks for your video.
I LOVE Behr paint! I haven’t used all their new expensive ones, but I’ve painted a LOT of walls with their old paint, which is probably your 2-coat one. I also realized I liked the smell of it when I used another brand and about gagged! Great video!
I have used the top end Behr. It was more like frosting than paint. It slogged on. I use the bottom Behr. I can get one coat coverage with it.
Thanks for sharing!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYhey
I agree. The Marquee Line is a waste of money. The Premium Plus has been great and is a nice price point.
Jeff is poking the Behr
why not. I am not sponsored so I can have my own opinion. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY It was a pretty funny play on words...
I use Benjamin Moore whenever I can get it
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. Thank you!!!! I’m about to paint my first level. And this video helped me with my selection without regrets. Thank you!!!!!!
We've been using the Behr Premium Plus paint for years and love it. We are building a new house in 2024 so nice to see this test between the different Behr products.
😱 You blew my mind when you sanded the wall but didn't wipe it down afterward! Who would do this? That's a recipe for disaster. As a retired professional painter, I've used all the top brands and can't say that twice the price in paint guarantees better results. I've used Behr paint in my own home and have always achieved good results. My favorite paint, Muralo Waterborne outperformed any other water based paint I used, but is no longer available - it was worth the higher cost. Half of the time, the final finish of a wall will depend on the previous paints already on a wall, especially cheap flat paint. Like you said, the prep is more important for the final To ensure a nice finish over those, I would sand and wipe down, and prime before adding two coats of topcoat. Your close-up showed an awful lot of paint roller lint, not good, not caused by the paint. This video spent a lot of time without producing much wisdom regarding the value of the different paints to match their prices.
Prep - prep - prep super important also SHAKE IT GOOD!
Big fan of CHEEP paint. More than $20 a gallon is just painful for me.
With paint that cheap you’ll have to paint 4 coats. Value your time more than the gallons.
Asking a real estate agent whether you should buy a home right now is like to asking an alcoholic whether they think you should have a drink lol. Homes in my neighborhood that cost around $450k in sales in 2019 are now going for $800 to $950k. Every seller in my neighborhood is currently making a $350k profit. Simply unreal. In all honesty, deflation is what we require. The only other option is for many people to go bankrupt, which would also be bad for the economy. That is the only way to return to normal.
Personally, I can connect to that. When I began working with Margaret Johnson Arndt, a fiduciary financial counsellor, my advantages were certain. In these circumstances, I would always advise getting professional help so they can steer you through choppy markets and just give you indicators and strategies for knowing when to enter and exit the market.
Finding financial advisors like Margaret Johnson Arndt who can assist you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.
Pro painter for decades.
Big fan of Sherwin Williams.