Good demo Yves. I especially liked the dramatic demonstration you did with the soft detail brush to show even a super soft brush will inflict marring on not only piano black trim but also on paint depending on the softness of the paint. I have super soft paint on my red Nissan 370Z and if you even blink wrong at the paint, it seems to get marring.
Very good info and I’ve done a lot of car detailing in my time. My detailing respect for you went to a super high level when you recommended ppf for those gloss black areas on those pillars. That’s really the only way to protect those areas. I’ve always followed that approach/recommendation after it’s been properly paint corrected. Respect your knowledge and honesty. 👍👍👍
Sometimes even smaller pads are needed for this, maybe Gyeon can consider making pads in sizes matching for the Flex PXE or Rupes Ibrid? Awesome Video as ever, thanks for being so informative and showing the techniques well!
It would be great to go through a step by step process of what compounds and polishes you have used with which pads? Any recommendations for a small polisher that won't break the bank? I've been impressed with the Gyeon products I've used so far on my cars.
I use a three step process. Cutting compound, polish compound, and then a finishing polish. Some people use a hybrid compound that breaks down more finely as you use it, but I prefer to have more control. Sometimes you can do it in two steps without the aggressive cutting compound as well. I hope this helps.
All depends on how bad the situation is. There are many variables that can change but when it’s a used car with plenty of scratches, then you will need to start with a heavy cut and follow and respect the following steps. All depend as well on what you are satified with. Regards, Y.
@@paulgrewal4339 he used a Rupes Big Foot 3" polisher. I use the Griot's Garage G8 and G9 right now as they have a lifetime warranty and the build quality is fantastic (also a lot less expensive than Rupes for the budget I had when I got started). I use them multiple times weekly and have for years. They've stood up terrific. I hope this was helpful!
@@GYEON_official Correct! We saw that on a Porsche Taycan 2021 recently. Much better that way, hope we are going to see more of that in the car industry. Because if you are like us and cannot tolerate swirls, plastic is definately the worst 😅
What about 'repairing' vs restoring piano trim? I used Chemical Guys VRP (vinyl rubber, plastic); the product having very good reviews online, in the tens of thousands and still 5 stars. Used it on my slightly dulled and midly scratched exterior piano trim, and it ended up splotchy and matte, very much grey instead of black. Been that way for a year ever since (it isn't build-up or something to be buffed out/off), and been too afraid to touch it up again and make it worse again. Any idea what I might have done wrong? Can this be restored in another way? Thanks for any advice in advance!
Hi, I have a question. I accidentally used alcohol wipes on the piano black trim inside my car, so I think it might have affected the surface coating (dissolve the lacquer/varnish). Would there be any health hazards if it comes into contact with the skin? I saw that it caused discoloration on the plastic parts on the car door.
@@GYEON_official Oh, I meant the coating. Is lacquer that gets dissolved by rubbing alcohol toxic if it comes into contact with the skin? Or is it harmless? I apologize if my questions come off as strange, because I have some serious OCD and paranoia, which I am trying to cope with.
Another excellent video. I note that suggested the use of Mohs Evo after correction. I am planning to correct my BMW 5 series and coat with Mohs Evo, but I was not sure about its use on the piano black trim around the window, wing mirrors and bumpers. Would you recommend Mohs Evo for all of these surfaces? What about for the head and tail lights, please?
Hi John, Except for platics and glass Q²Mohs EVO is fantastic! It would go for for Q² TRIM on the headlight and unpainted or rather rough plastics. Regards, Y.
In this case we used Q²M Compound+ on a Q²M Heavy Cutting pad followed by Q²M Compound on Q²M Finish pad. All depends on how perfect you want it but this combination gets you with 2 steps to a decent end result. Regards, Y.
Hello sir, i have a question for You. How often can u actually polish those damn black piano trims? I had mine polished 4 times already in a 2 year old car and recently the dealer while servicing it scratched the hell out of them again. They said they can buff it out but im too scared thats too often. What do you think?
@@GYEON_official unfortunately my wife doesnt agree on that idea, she says i overexaggerate with the car, that its just a car. I wish i could think the same way, cuz the swirls are driving me nutz
The reason for that is I want to see my defects and not hide them by overlighting. The human eye is not able to see them due to the lack of contrast but I know that many lights look spectacular but spectacular doesn’t always mean good. Regards, Y.
Why do they even put these easily marked, soft materials on cars? There must be something better. Same as the ever more intricate wheel designs? Why? 😩
why? as long as he is getting a direct reflection of the light is all that matters. not a 20 degree change in camera angle. the light will show all the spiderwebs, and there isnt any left. Polishing plastic will get the job done just like your standard paint correction. you can polish a turd if you try hard enough.
Extended cut: once it's finished DON'T touch, don't look at it, don't even breathe in the area of the trim 😂👌🏽
Good demo Yves. I especially liked the dramatic demonstration you did with the soft detail brush to show even a super soft brush will inflict marring on not only piano black trim but also on paint depending on the softness of the paint. I have super soft paint on my red Nissan 370Z and if you even blink wrong at the paint, it seems to get marring.
Very good info and I’ve done a lot of car detailing in my time. My detailing respect for you went to a super high level when you recommended ppf for those gloss black areas on those pillars. That’s really the only way to protect those areas. I’ve always followed that approach/recommendation after it’s been properly paint corrected. Respect your knowledge and honesty. 👍👍👍
Thank you for the kind words.
Regards,
Y.
Sometimes even smaller pads are needed for this, maybe Gyeon can consider making pads in sizes matching for the Flex PXE or Rupes Ibrid? Awesome Video as ever, thanks for being so informative and showing the techniques well!
Thanks for you input. We value any type of feedback and are always looking into future products and improvements.
Regards,
Y.
👍 welcome back Yves! Manufacturer's should be penalised for using it, just like emissions penalties, it's now appearing on external spoilers too. 😠
Great tips for restoring those often forgotten but ugly trim imperfections!
I totally agree with all the procedure and everyone knows how much sensitive is the piano black... Ppf is an ideal solution for the protection
It would be great to go through a step by step process of what compounds and polishes you have used with which pads? Any recommendations for a small polisher that won't break the bank? I've been impressed with the Gyeon products I've used so far on my cars.
I use a three step process. Cutting compound, polish compound, and then a finishing polish. Some people use a hybrid compound that breaks down more finely as you use it, but I prefer to have more control. Sometimes you can do it in two steps without the aggressive cutting compound as well. I hope this helps.
All depends on how bad the situation is. There are many variables that can change but when it’s a used car with plenty of scratches, then you will need to start with a heavy cut and follow and respect the following steps. All depend as well on what you are satified with.
Regards,
Y.
@@marshprofessionaldetailing9794what was that machine you were using
@@paulgrewal4339 he used a Rupes Big Foot 3" polisher. I use the Griot's Garage G8 and G9 right now as they have a lifetime warranty and the build quality is fantastic (also a lot less expensive than Rupes for the budget I had when I got started). I use them multiple times weekly and have for years. They've stood up terrific. I hope this was helpful!
@@marshprofessionaldetailing9794 thanks!!
The manufacturers need to stop using that trim... good information thankyou
I fully agree. Some brands already start by using black glass.
Regards,
Y.
@@GYEON_official Correct! We saw that on a Porsche Taycan 2021 recently. Much better that way, hope we are going to see more of that in the car industry. Because if you are like us and cannot tolerate swirls, plastic is definately the worst 😅
Fantastic video and tips thank you
I’ve been using your products for years and love them
More videos please
Thanks. More videos are coming, stay tuned.
Regards,
Y.
Hi Yves, good to see you here again, hope you are well
MR
All good and busy 😊, more to come. Thanks for watching.
Regards,
Y.
Great I need a polisher now!
I want that polishing tool! Where can I get one?
What about 'repairing' vs restoring piano trim? I used Chemical Guys VRP (vinyl rubber, plastic); the product having very good reviews online, in the tens of thousands and still 5 stars.
Used it on my slightly dulled and midly scratched exterior piano trim, and it ended up splotchy and matte, very much grey instead of black. Been that way for a year ever since (it isn't build-up or something to be buffed out/off), and been too afraid to touch it up again and make it worse again. Any idea what I might have done wrong? Can this be restored in another way? Thanks for any advice in advance!
Welcome back
What is the name of the products that you use?
Nice video , interior can be done same way ?
Yes, definitely
Great vid! What polish and pads did you use? I assume the lightest grades are required?
Not always. In some cases a heavy cut is required like it was in this case.
Regards,
Y.
Hi, I have a question. I accidentally used alcohol wipes on the piano black trim inside my car, so I think it might have affected the surface coating (dissolve the lacquer/varnish). Would there be any health hazards if it comes into contact with the skin? I saw that it caused discoloration on the plastic parts on the car door.
You better ask the manufacturer of your alcohol wipes.
Regards,
Y.
@@GYEON_official Oh, I meant the coating. Is lacquer that gets dissolved by rubbing alcohol toxic if it comes into contact with the skin? Or is it harmless? I apologize if my questions come off as strange, because I have some serious OCD and paranoia, which I am trying to cope with.
It seems that you are using a rotary heavy cut or rotary finish with a dual action polisher. Is that pad better for piano black?
Yes it is. Avoiding any possible chance of micro marring on a super soft substrate.
Regards,
Y.
Another excellent video. I note that suggested the use of Mohs Evo after correction. I am planning to correct my BMW 5 series and coat with Mohs Evo, but I was not sure about its use on the piano black trim around the window, wing mirrors and bumpers. Would you recommend Mohs Evo for all of these surfaces? What about for the head and tail lights, please?
Hi John,
Except for platics and glass Q²Mohs EVO is fantastic! It would go for for Q² TRIM on the headlight and unpainted or rather rough plastics.
Regards,
Y.
I thought this was a video about caring for the finish of your piano
What were the polishes and pads he used?
In this case we used Q²M Compound+ on a Q²M Heavy Cutting pad followed by Q²M Compound on Q²M Finish pad. All depends on how perfect you want it but this combination gets you with 2 steps to a decent end result.
Regards,
Y.
@@GYEON_official thanks!
Hello sir, i have a question for You. How often can u actually polish those damn black piano trims? I had mine polished 4 times already in a 2 year old car and recently the dealer while servicing it scratched the hell out of them again. They said they can buff it out but im too scared thats too often. What do you think?
The only advice I can give you is to install PPF on them and have no more worries. 😊
Regards,
Y.
@@GYEON_official unfortunately my wife doesnt agree on that idea, she says i overexaggerate with the car, that its just a car. I wish i could think the same way, cuz the swirls are driving me nutz
@MikesPL86 As long as your wife isn’t driving you nuts, you are fine 😉
Regards,
Y.
Don’t this just fill the swirls and masks it rather than removes any real scratches?
Witch is Gyeon s decon soap? Thanks
Q²M Restart is our decon shampoo.
Regards,
Y.
How do you work in such low light conditions?
The reason for that is I want to see my defects and not hide them by overlighting. The human eye is not able to see them due to the lack of contrast but I know that many lights look spectacular but spectacular doesn’t always mean good.
Regards,
Y.
@@GYEON_official Amen!! So many people don't understand why I like working in lower lit area's. Makes for a much better end result! 👏🏼
Piano black = cheap polished plastic. Kinda like MontBlanc "precious resin" fountain pens that sell for over $1000.
Why do they even put these easily marked, soft materials on cars? There must be something better. Same as the ever more intricate wheel designs? Why? 😩
Good question. In most cases it’s about the “best” looks for the cheapest price 😊. For a long term worry free solution: PPF them.
Regards,
Y.
Piano black wrap those panels !!!
Our PPF Black is the thing, that so far comes closest to the factory structure/finish.
showing the “after” from a different angle than “before” is a nifty trick… I”m not buying it.
why? as long as he is getting a direct reflection of the light is all that matters. not a 20 degree change in camera angle. the light will show all the spiderwebs, and there isnt any left. Polishing plastic will get the job done just like your standard paint correction. you can polish a turd if you try hard enough.
2nd good morning
First off, I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t what piano trim is and secondly you have not shown how to do anything. Complete waste of my time.
Gave a thumbs down for that cringe AF intro 🤢