Jeez the sound of the older engines is treat. Thanks for digging this stuff up. Hearing Burdon get on and off the throttle makes you realise how the older turbo cars came onto boost in rush probably stepping up power exponentially in the transition from no/low boost levels to high boost. Must have been hairy at times.
Phil Erving was a legend, I didn’t know he did heads, he worked his magic on cars, bikes and believe it or not, tractors too. He tried to get Bob Chamberlains two cylinder kerosene motor converted to diesel to go properly. That defeated even him but that is another story.
I have never heard a red motor rev like that. I would love that motor in a hr or a lc street car. Iam surprised it held together so well for so long testimony to their engineering abilities.
Very good Story...Well done...Remember Martin Sinclair very well too...A friend of mine still has the Gearbox out of Martins Torana .....Yes there was a big field of sports sedans back then ...was fantastic
Quick question. How did he upgrade a VB-VH to a VK with just body panels? VK is a completely different C pillar which includes the Opel / Vauxhall european window. Swapping the roof and rear quarter would have been a crazy proposition. Is this what really happened?
Yep, the entire c pillar and rear guard panel was upgraded to a VK panel when the car was repainted. Leon wanted to keep the car as up to date as possible - a lot of effort to go to!
I had no idea it was a turbo 202 in that car! I’ve driven through that gate into the yard at 8:31 in my truck so many times and occasionally the garage door where the car is stored has been open…
how badly broken would every bone in both legs be with that bar running directly above the kneecaps, aside from that the car looks sounds and goes amazingly
It is easy to overlook how good many of these 'amateur' drivers really are, plus the effort and meticulous planning equal to any major team at a fraction of the budget. "Racing for a thousand dollars worth of goodies from the auto store" would scarcely cover the cost of the wheel nuts!!!! Can anybody shed light on the use of the 202 red as opposed to the newer 3.3 blue or black. In my lack of knowledge, is it because of the Heads used and the newer motors not matching or ease of availability of the 202 red?
A lot more Irving heads around than 12. In the late 80s I wanted an Irving head for my Torana. Too expensive,, so I fitted a Chev and went far faster than any 202 ever would. And it was cheaper!! And more reliable. That car is more than a ton,, by a good lot
@callanrs2000 no joke! What's a head like that worth. I built a 221 (Ford Crank in a 179 HP block) with 12 port head and the thing wouldn't pull the skin off a custard
Aussie Phil Irving design the Vincent motorcycle engine. And they are worth close to $1million in US dollars for a good example. What’s the price for his Repco Brabham engines!
I believe the block in this car was the 3.3 litre holden engine, whereas the engine in the VL was a 3.0 litre RB Nissan engine. Very different engines, not to mention the Nissan engine was fuel injected.
@@bigrobsydneyYes it is a 202 red motor. Holden injected the 202(3.3) for an optional motor for the VK. Correct me if they went into any earlier Commodores, I have forgotten. How many car builders optioned a 2.8l four,2.8l six, 3.3l six, 3.3l EFI six and a 5.0l V8 in the same car, the VK? All this info from a VK owners manual.
A hidden gem of Aussie motoring history. Thank you for posting!
pfffffff
Those MOMO rims need to put into a museum. Great story, thanks.
Jeez the sound of the older engines is treat. Thanks for digging this stuff up.
Hearing Burdon get on and off the throttle makes you realise how the older turbo cars came onto boost in rush probably stepping up power exponentially in the transition from no/low boost levels to high boost. Must have been hairy at times.
That turbo 202 sounds amazing!
Phil Erving was a legend, I didn’t know he did heads, he worked his magic on cars, bikes and believe it or not, tractors too. He tried to get Bob Chamberlains two cylinder kerosene motor converted to diesel to go properly. That defeated even him but that is another story.
Irving
Good to hear Mike Raymond on commentary from 4:04 with Neil Crompton. At 4.56 “Scuse me boys!” Classic Raymond :).
What an awesome story and a great feature vid. Really enjoyed it. Thank you for keeping this stuff alive.
Fabulous video of a really interesting car! Great work on putting this video together, including the excellent historic footage!
I remember this car back in the 80's at symmons. Nice package, doco and car👍
RUclips just recommended your channel to me, and it did well! Great video and badass car I'd never seen before. Subscribed!
Cheers for sharing the video with us I'm a Holden Commodore fan from way back. That old commy is sick as what a beast 👍👍
now that is a race car .. this will get a lot of shares .Awesome !!
Love the history of both car and driver well done.
You've taken your work to a new level again. Well done Callan 👏
Awesome production. Well done
Awesome video. Thanks for creating and sharing
loved everything abou this awesome story and great video !
good god that's a lot of power for that era, from an engine that small
Awesome edit and history 👌🏼😎
man this thing sounds amazing
What a bloody great video
Even the ol LH Torana engine done right with triples is a weapon..
Turbo 6 that's sic
I have never heard a red motor rev like that. I would love that motor in a hr or a lc street car. Iam surprised it held together so well for so long testimony to their engineering abilities.
Go listen a to good GpN Toranas. At least 6800.
Though an n/a Irving head engine still sounds great
Great story..thank u
Rippa car and video. Thanks for sharing.
Very good Story...Well done...Remember Martin Sinclair very well too...A friend of mine still has the Gearbox out of Martins Torana .....Yes there was a big field of sports sedans back then ...was fantastic
Glad it survived. Well done 🇦🇺
What an awesome car
Quick question. How did he upgrade a VB-VH to a VK with just body panels? VK is a completely different C pillar which includes the Opel / Vauxhall european window. Swapping the roof and rear quarter would have been a crazy proposition. Is this what really happened?
Yep, the entire c pillar and rear guard panel was upgraded to a VK panel when the car was repainted. Leon wanted to keep the car as up to date as possible - a lot of effort to go to!
I had no idea it was a turbo 202 in that car! I’ve driven through that gate into the yard at 8:31 in my truck so many times and occasionally the garage door where the car is stored has been open…
Nice work
That Phillip Irving head is awesome, makes the old girl sound like a RB almost.
An Irving head sounds great. Unlike the Datsun engine
Never heard a 202 sound like that 😃😃😃
Amazing vid thanks for telling us about this unique car.. How about the cage, alloy, horizontal bar above or below knees!
Absolute ball tearer of a car.
What a sweet sweet sound that is…
Sounds tuff as
Crazy you have that many followers!
the ford fan boys love to go on about the barra but way before that there was this awesome 202 smashing it.
Do you mean wheel Barra?
Great story and history, thanks.
Big steering wheel...no power steering?
5:04
Back when broken down cars, where just parked on the shoulder, like they went in to get a carton of milk
Imagine this with a 5 speed and more boost, surely an iron block could handle more than 12psi even back then.
how badly broken would every bone in both legs be with that bar running directly above the kneecaps, aside from that the car looks sounds and goes amazingly
WHAT DA CRAP......that sounds tuff as with a turbo lol
It is easy to overlook how good many of these 'amateur' drivers really are, plus the effort and meticulous planning equal to any major team at a fraction of the budget. "Racing for a thousand dollars worth of goodies from the auto store" would scarcely cover the cost of the wheel nuts!!!!
Can anybody shed light on the use of the 202 red as opposed to the newer 3.3 blue or black. In my lack of knowledge, is it because of the Heads used and the newer motors not matching or ease of availability of the 202 red?
Early red blocks, eg early HQ bore further and are/ were more common. Keep the block small bore with thick walls, by HX most of them were very thin.
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A lot more Irving heads around than 12.
In the late 80s I wanted an Irving head for my Torana. Too expensive,, so I fitted a Chev and went far faster than any 202 ever would. And it was cheaper!! And more reliable.
That car is more than a ton,, by a good lot
Badge is in the mail.
Great video. Thanks.
One question though- where is the 202 head capable of flowing 600+ HP
That would be worth a packet.
Same engine, just a smaller turbo and less boost for better reliability and driveability
@callanrs2000 no joke!
What's a head like that worth.
I built a 221 (Ford Crank in a 179 HP block) with 12 port head and the thing wouldn't pull the skin off a custard
Errr, listen. Irving downdraft head. With a hairdryer.
Yes, Phil Erving was a master, that head came from a brilliant brain.
Aussie Phil Irving design the Vincent motorcycle engine. And they are worth close to $1million in US dollars for a good example. What’s the price for his Repco Brabham engines!
naturally aspirated!
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doesnt require the use of a head gasket LOL,it does have a head gasket a "COPPER" head gasket
Was just going off the info board for the car which says "there is no head gasket" 🤷♂️
Head gaskets are overrated anyway.
@@dazaspc what? it has o-rings, it has a copper gasket under head.no one mentioned fire rings.o-rings and fire rings are too different things.
Music!
Lovin the porn music theme
Toffe opel.
202 😂😂😂😂 22 second 1/4mile
Awesome car
Wow, never knew about this. What a cool story!!!!
I wonder if this was the (turbo-6) seed that was planted which eventually grew to the VL-turbo?
I believe the block in this car was the 3.3 litre holden engine, whereas the engine in the VL was a 3.0 litre RB Nissan engine. Very different engines, not to mention the Nissan engine was fuel injected.
@@bigrobsydneyYes it is a 202 red motor. Holden injected the 202(3.3) for an optional motor for the VK. Correct me if they went into any earlier Commodores, I have forgotten. How many car builders optioned a 2.8l four,2.8l six, 3.3l six, 3.3l EFI six and a 5.0l V8 in the same car, the VK? All this info from a VK owners manual.
Correction, typo, the four was a 1.9l.
There was also a 3.3l EST motor, whatever that was.
@@jefftheaussie2225 I owned a 5.0 VK so I know a little about them. I must admit, I never came across a fuel injected version.