Did Success Go To BRAND NUBIAN's Head? What Happened? Stunted Growth Music
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2023
- Throughout the 90s hip hop was doing a lot of transitioning, from fashion to dance, appearance, and a lot of different styles were brought to the table, with every artist competing to see who could bring something new. Brand Nubian started off with great opportunity behind the Master of Ceremony success of Grand Puba and found success in the music industry, but also controversy due to their lyrics often being militant and sometimes homophobic. Even today many music outlets or a place like instagram has removed some of their songs because of it. Brand Nubian wasn't the best of rap groups, but they did have a unique pocket in time where they could've done more in the 90s. They broke up after their first album, and nothing has been the same since. Revolving door of on again off again between them made their music inconsistent and at some point time just went past them. Still a notable group in hip hop, but for these reasons, they didn't become who they were supposed to. Did Success Go To BRAND NUBIAN's Head? What Happened? Stunted Growth Music
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Don't Let it Go To Your Head still one of my favorite BN songs. Dope group from the 90s, wish they stayed together a little longer
The God's must be Crazy
Everything is Everything should have been a bigger deal than it was. There was such a rush of things coming out at the time, it was easy for the masses to overlook a lot of gems.
The next person you should definitely do next is the NY legend Rakim. That would make for a great Stunted Growth video.
Stunted Growth? Their prime years albumns were all solid, selling shy of gold, all while remainig true to their ideals which were contrary to the Gangsta Rap trend of the time. They gave their fans (Hip-Hop) what they wanted. Grand Puba as a Solo artist was the guy that took the torch from Big Daddy Kane and Passed it to Biggie as the smooth slick talking ladies man lyricist. Pubas growth may have been stunted, he had the makings of a super star but he was also a bit older having been making records near 10 years prior to his break out solo success.
Puba was the heart & soul of Brand Nubian and when he left, the group was losing momentum til they reunited with The Foundation album, cool video as always SGM, how about doing Rufus Blaq 💯
Do not EVER compare Puba to Drake...EVER
U ain't lieing 🤣
Real talk I'm tired of these stories compared old 🎨 to new ones just like I saw another video were someone said big daddy kane and rakim were like a lil wayne uhhhh nope 🙅♂️ those 🎨 back than were more solid and lyrical and more humble these new age ones only care about the stupid trap party beats drugs money and drinking I'm straight on that I'm a young buck and I don't even like these newer ones
Puba writes his rhymes, Drake has ghost writers.
Drake is a legend. Puba wish he had his career
Exactly, that's blasphemy, saying somthing like that. This new generation have no respect for the old school rap. You don't see that in rock, they respect the people that came before them.
10:03 "Brand Nubian was too militant" says you. I LOVE "In God we trust." I miss the days when rappers stood for something and spoke their minds.
I miss those days too!!!
Apparently so did the buying masses and billboard charts. That's obviously what he was talking about.
In god we trust was a great album that has aged well
@@jasminehill6312 They are coming back slowly but surely 🤞🏽
Peace to the Gods
Sadat X was my 5th grade teacher, great dude all around !
Word!?!
Whattt
yea he was my music teacher I'm a senior in high school now I wonder what he's up to
When did he become a teacher? What city was he living at the time doing that? I actually never knew that.
That's dope.
No Success did not go to their head or stunt they growth. Puba was older & Moved like a solo Artist ( He was the guy people came to for features back then he as like drake.) puffy and others bite Puba style/ swag and Ran with it. What stunted they growth was the death of Conscious rap & the Growth / push of Gangster Rap to the masses. Record Companies did not put Money into promoting Conscious music. salute to Brand Nubian they music was still dope regardless
Great points
A lot of rap fans don't fuck with conscious rap. Its too preachy and you can't party to it. DJs aren't going to play Immortal Technique, dead prez, The Coup, Paris, and X-Clan in the clubs. Notice Grand Puba was the most successful as a solo artist because he knew how to mix the party vibe, consciousness, and emceeing all together. Whereas Lord Jamar was the least successful with his solo album because he is a hardcore preachy 5% er nut and is a weak rapper.
If I owned a record label, sorry but I wouldn't sign acts like Immortal Technique and The Coup.
Factual
@Extinguish Idiot's you need to get a life, always one internet troll with something negative to say
I reall feel like Puba went off on the skins and ends tip and Jamar and Sadat stayed pretty true to the militant/ conscious street style.
PUBA was a solo artist before the group. He told DJ PREMO on his show that LORD JAMAR AND SADAT X were his younger dudes and he wanted to put them on. The only way the label would put them on was if PUBA was a part of them. So he did the first album as BRAND NUBIAN understanding he would do his solo joint after.
He was in a group called Masters of Ceremony
Puba was way older than them and always thought of himself as a solo artist it would've taken massive success for him to stay
Damn 1964! Had no idea dude was that old.
Puba was gonna be on the first album and then do the solo thing. That second album was dope as shit.
How do you feel about the whole situation with DJ Vlad and Lord Jamar and they had a falling out due to DJ Vlad miss quoting minister Farrakhan
@@123theprodigy5 I personally think Jamar was backwards for saying Vlad was a culture vulture (he is), but also going on his platform. And I think its kind of weird that that was the thing that he drew the line at. Plus he has his podcast with Rah Digga so he may feel he no longer needs Vlad to keep his name out there or whatever made him go on his show.
Grand Puba was definitely the best out of all of them to me, but I agree that he was already known in the 80s which boosted him even more once he got into the 90s.
Brand Nubian has an underground album entitled "Time's Running Out", which was recorded in 1998, and shelved until the early 2000's. It's pretty dope, please check it out.
I got all their ish when it dropped. Lucky indeed.
In God We Trust was the 1st album I ever listed to in full. Solid album.
Poor righteous teachers 💯
One of the best hip hop groups ever. The 80s and 90s were something special as a whole. The music, movies, women looked way better than they do nowadays, bright colors, people actually used their brains and had talent, the clothes, more people where outside enjoying life, the cars, video games, and just the atmosphere as a whole was great.
My nigga you sound like you 50 and out of touch 😭
So true. Brand Nubian was comprised of three very uniquely gifted rappers. I know I sound like a hater but there is NOBODY in this generation who is working with that kind of skill.
Facts! It was balanced between dance, conscious and "gangster"music. The world was different back then...
In 1994/'95, sometimes I would walk into a record store like The Whiz or Tower Records, and be soooo confused by the amount of amazing top notch groups AND solo artists on the shelves that I wouldn't buy anything! I had to go back home and think it over!! Thats how dope Hip Hop was in the mid '90s. It was the Golden Age and I was silly enough to think it would last forever. I took it for granted, for real!
Excellent episode. Sadat X has been one of my favorite artists in his solo career. He released an album in 2023 that can be found on RUclips. I'd love to see an episode like this on Brooklyn's hip-hop band, Stetsasonic.
His flow is why I enjoyed sadat x
He did not release an album in 2023. The last album was 2022, Science of Life, with that C Dyer art.
For me personally,I love In God We Trust. I don't skip a song on that album. Furthermore the Puba solo albums are also really dope to me. Both albums I still listen to till this day. You did forget Sadat x's Wild Cowboys album which also had dope tracks on it .
I guess in terms of sales they didn't go to number one or whatever but as a lover of the craft I have to say I love the albums they brought to the table and made my times as a youth in the 90s more pleasurable.
I think they said what they had to say, and with highly graphic lyrics. Sadat is clearly the best one lyrically and with his delivery. Puba's Reel to Reel should not be slept on, especially Soul Controller
Sadat better than puba? Come on man!
@@kevinb1125 Exactly
Soul controller was very brilliant
Wake up is one of my favorite songs of all time
One thing that you didn't mention was that Puba put Hilfiger on the map.
Dotty X, Gran Pu and Lord jamar with the science of today!!!! Bro thanks for this one I love Brand Nubian also Sadat X solo music hit hard too shout out pu
Brand Nubian had the greatest misstep in hip hop history. They were not able to capitalize on how popular they really were after that first album. Their first album is one of the most bootlegged albums of all time. Bootlegging cost them millions of sales and dollars. Also , their ego clashes or whatever the problem was amongst the members stopped them from being more commercially successful. Their influence on fashion ( they ushered in the rugby shirt era) , slang, and consciousness was way bigger than has ever been recognized.
All True&Alive Gospel said here...
They could've been sucessful like their native tongues Brothers like atcq and de la soul.
Hell yea
This is true they are the first rappers I personally ever heard talk about Knowledge of Self
@Msgilt Kane,Rakim,World famous Supreme Team was already rapping about the 5% nation
Met Puba at Jazzy Jay's studio in the Bronx, round 1987. When Jay introduced me to him he kinda brushed me off as a nobody. Met Lord Jamar in 1986, him Angie B ( Stone) Lil Rodney C, and about three members of the Crash Crew, were involved in a rap play. Lord Jamar was very peace at that time. Last time I saw the God was about 2000 at a party for Harold Perrineau. He remembered me 14 years later. Lol. Their Foundation album is their second best Brand Nubian album. They good dudes.
Rap became a mainstream genre of music in 1991 as did Teddy Riley’s New Jack Swing with his production of Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Album and the massive cultural & musical creativity ensued worldwide thereafter & in 2023 i love looking back at the early greats like Grand Puba thru these lenses and seeing what became of their contributions to the craft…
I have suggestions:
Lords Of The Underground
The Bush Babies
Vita
Smoothe The Hustler
Jimmy Cozier
Punks jump up to get Beat down is one of hip hops greatest songs
"One day, I was on the day train.. when I saw these 2 kids talking..."
Love Brand Nubian! They actually inspired another group that you should a Stunted Growth videos for. The Lost Boyz!
I need to see one on Naughty by Nature if it hasn't been done yet
One of my fav groups! Thx! 🔥🔥🔥
PUNKS JUMP UP TO GET BEATDOWN💥💥
I give nuthin’ but abuse!🔥
Been waiting for this one salute 🔥🔥💯💯
I wish Lord Jamar would elaborate more about Brand Nubian on The Yanadameen Godcast. Growing up in the early 90s, When it came to New York Hip Hop, I would always hear great stories about The Pro Black Era and how polarizing it was. 💯
My favorite group.Thank you
Great video... why Brand Nubian never ascended to their true potential was a complete enigma to us during that time period of the early 90s.
Do one on Pastor Troy.
His gimmick of beefing with Master P caused him to get blackballed from major labels.
Also about half a dozen rappers took his style and ran with it
I am waiting on a video about him. Pastor is definitely an underrated artist. He still makes music today and has a bunch of mixtapes that went under the radar for a lot of people.
VICA VERSA...
Song is a
CLASSIC.
Jamar said himself they barely sold albums they never went gold
Drama Left Right was one of the examples of a Pastor Troy type rapper.
Love the videos.
Would love ❤️ to see video on the group "Capitol Tax".
Didn’t even realize this was one of my man stunned growth videos till he hit me with the legendary “stunt number one”. Whole time I’m like “this voice familiar “. Way to execute the same excellence on another topic bro.
First view, first comment! Good stuff bro! Keep up the good work!
One of the best rap groups ever!
Love this. I would love to see an episode regarding Nubian M.O.B.
dope documentary. 💯
I don't know how well u really know Brand Nubian's music. But they put out dope music with and without Puba! Not just one song either I'm talking about multiple albums.
Cap
Truth said....
Can you do a stunted growth on Grandaddy IU thanks and keep up the good work love this series great content
R.I.P I.U one of my favorites
RIP IU was a dope Emcee.
This was dope, but i think you should do Smoothe da hustler next!
Thanks for this video n I would love you to do rapper O.C.
Yesss please
You don’t know about them grand Puba was considered the best MC at that time one of my favorite groups
And yet he was my least favorite, both Sadat and Jamar out-rapped him on numerous tracks...
Absolutely Obvious in words& Swag presentation...
@MiSTaH bOmBAsTiK Wen? Sadat n Jamar had broken flows not nearly as smooth as Puba. If Puba was on da song he was usually da star
@@daminharris3879 facts. Grand Puba was THAT guy.
Good video. Might as well do X-Clan next.
Great video
4:24 oh thank you thank you thank you. You’re so nice J Stunted Growth. Said my name so perfect! Lol 😂
Wow! Great! Do X-Clan next!
Great work... do black moon/duckdown
Great video. You should do Special Ed one day. Pce
Regardless, Brand Nubian is my all time favorite rap group
Love how it starts, with Lord Jamar out in Church Av.. Classic
Stunted growth on Chino XL pleeeeeeasssee🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
If you know, you KNOW
I see what you did what the title 😅 Salute StuntedGrowth!
Puba’s two solo albums were incredible. Big fan of brand Nubian . I bought all of their albums.
“They’d break up after just one hour”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“There’s just one thing I want to say, copy copy copy copy copy”! When I think of 90’s hip hop Brand Nubian immediately comes to mind!
It's funny, I preferred Brand Nubian more when Grand Puba left 🤷♂️
Nobody taking 'bout "hitting skins" all the damn time!! 🤣🤣
Yessir on the money. In god we trust was damn near flawless
🔥 Lord Jamar killed that verse in the intro. 🔥
It went to Puba’s head. Jamar and Sadat had the better sophomore effort.
Brand Nubian put out more than one album, In God We Trust and there was another album the name escapes me.
Everything is Everything & Foundation.
I loved Puba and was a fan of Brand Nubian with him but I became a bigger fan of their music after he went solo. Everything is Everything is my favorite BN project ever. Just my opinion.
My best friend R.I.P.!!! Loved Brand Nubian n "The Roots", his all time favorites were Boogie Down Productions*(KRS-ONE)* n WU-TANG CLAN!!! I never listened to any of them really n really just watch your basketball stuff, but if I remember correctly "Punks Jump Up To Get Beat Down"!! Could Be Wrong, but anyway brought back Alot of memories!! Thank You!!!
Can you do Baha Men or any other of our local musicians from The Bahamas ? Or maybe Floetry, Sean Paul, Mr. Vegas or Lil Romeo
Puba was a solo artist so was Lord Jamar and Sadat X. “Punks jump up” was a Hip Hop classic. We love the catalog and their place in Hip Hop is solidified 💯
PEACE TO THE GODS AND EARTHS!!!!
Lord Jamar did pretty good in other arenas. Alot of acting. Remember him on Oz back in the day. And he's the ultimate 5% on the square. Facts he look exactly the same as 30 years ago too
Supreme Allah who was allergic to eggs.
Punks jump up to get beat down is my fave, slow down too the story telling was clear to the point and relevant to the time
Can you do one on Das EFX?
First heard of *Brand Nubian* from "Punks Jump Up to Get Beat Down", and Grand Puba as a solo artist. I came across the earlier work a bit later thanks to "Old School Monday" on *Video Music Box*. But since they were a duo as far as I knew, I didn't view the first album as definitive. Apparently "Everything Is Everything" was considered a low performing album - but I really wasn't paying attention to chart position , especially through a Pop lense. Just seemed like an expected next album to me, & (again probably due to the no Cable & Video Music Box combo) I heard the singles just as much as anything else out then. Regarding Grand Puba, it definitely did not strike me as unusual to mix Hip Hop & R&B at that point. Also thought it was interesting to compare Jay Z's solo plans to Rockafella & not Original Flava. Though I guess it fits, *Original Flava* would be his *Masters Of Ceremony* phase. Can't say I was expecting a Grand Puba + Drake comparison though 😂.
Sadat X was my favorite out of the group. Puba was dope but Sadat's style was just crazy
He is very slept on, but had some of the dopest collaborations in the 90s (Biggie, Common, OGC, Akinyele...)
dat x's album "wild cowboys" went down big time in this fkng house of hold, my ears spent hundreds of hours bumping xylophones and bars, Big up to Diamond D as well, and his western mood at the time.
Btw, I saw Grand Pu playin xylophones on KMD's "peachfuzz", I would assume he played xylophones on sadat x "wild cowboys" as well. anyone know?
That good BACKPACK HIP-HOP!!💯🔥
Next Da Youngstas!
Don't let it go to your head yet they did they had the potential of being like a Tribe Called Quest if not more but I loved Grand Puba 'solo effort 2000 especially the single, I Like It ( I Wanna Be Where You Are ) and my request to do Jus Allah from Jedi Mind Tricks still stands.
2016 was the worst year in rap,it'll never get back to the 80/90 energy it was positive music in those days and that's really what happened to a lot of these great groups,they killed off the messengers in those days
You have to do 8ball and Mjg next
CANIBUS for stunted growth💪
Can you do Leaders of the New School?
Good suggestion!!
Would love to see that one!
And the flipmode squad.
You should do Ill Al Skratch next.
A heck of a group!
Can we get Petey Pablo next?
Norf CaroliNUH!
Born and raised up
Take yo shirt off spin it round your head
I lived in Charlotte before
You should do Camp lo next
Requests: YAGGFU Front, Chip Fu, C-rayz Walz, Yo Yo, The Last Emperor.
Make one about Lords of the Underground. Mr Funky was dope.
Can you do a stunted growth music on Mad Skillz
If it wasn't for JET magazine's Top 20 Albums, I would have never heard of Grand Puba's second solo album "2000".
I agree, but that album wasn't that bad at all. Also, the cover looked cool also, with him leaning on the black Lamborghini Countach.
Do Wreckx N Effect next
Can you also do Lil Kim, Wack 100, Young MA, YoYo, Boyz II Men, Jodeci, Alessia Cara, Will Smith, Zhané and Blackstreet
Will Smith? 🤣
@@cre8original Will Smith actually wasn't that bad of a rapper. Yes, I can see why some people would not think of him musically since his acting career was more fit for him, than being a rapper. 😭😂
I definitely would love to see one on Rakim, Redman, E-40, Common, Twista, YoungBloodz, Fat Joe, Terror Squad, and Da Backwudz.
@@CB12345 Terror Squad they did already
@@CB12345 Terror Squad episode ruclips.net/video/ChwTK-C3PcM/видео.html
HolyShit! I always wondered why and what happened with them!!! I actually liked Puba solo joint!! Dam shame.
Naw bruh , you forgetting about the banned version of "wake up" with the "wyte dude" with the horns in his head tryna trick the brothers . They banned that shhh quick.
Brand Nubian were special to me bruh.
Nice
Did you do one on Cooly live a lot of people don’t know much about him
Do Ghetto Mafia next!!! Straight From the DEC!!!
Do one on New Jersey rapper ransom
Can you please do Father Mc good looking
You should do black street
Can't believe you said "Drake" No way in hell can you make that comparison with Grandpuba .
Can you do a video on Shaquille O'Neal 's rap career
I was just thinking about "You Can't Stop the Reign" the other day with the Notorious B.I.G.
I mean it was a side project for shaw I think he's even come out and said that it was something he did for fun like acting not much of a story to tell
Do one on Das Efx
Another dope creation! Luv! I got one for youuuu. Can you please do a stunted growth o DRU HILL?! AND SUBSEQUENTLY SISQO?! PLEASSSSSSE 🙏🏾
Lord must’ve been on a wooo when he did that rap in the intro
Can you please make a video on Vic Mensa, Amy Winehouse and Xxxtentacion