"F*** HIP HOP" Was MC Shan A Sacrifice? 3 Reasons His Growth Was Stunted!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Today’s feature is a legend in hip hop, but not for all the typical reasons legends are. Mc Shan’s story is much one of sacrifice. He was a casualty of rap and the music business evolution, that never gets credit for his actual contributions to hip hop. DJ Akademiks, hip hop blogger not long ago made comments about the older rappers not reaching back to the younger ones and giving them game on how to move correctly and what things to do and not to do to preserve and push the culture forward. It’s a comment you hear a lot when the conversation turns to what happened to the essence of hip hop and why the music is what it is today. But in Shan’s case his story is all rappers to follow need to know what not to do in the music business. Older rappers shouldn’t have to sit down with and coddle the new era because they each have stories and a particular journey through the rap game and business, that you as a rapper can choose exactly the path you’d like to follow or not. The mistakes and miss turns that derailed or furthered their careers should be the biggest example, but they’re not received. Instead they are casted away as the old way of doing things and irrelevant because their voices aren’t as strong as they once were. Mc Shan Journey through the music business went from one of the pioneers to him at 53 years old saying F Hip Hop! "F*** HIP HOP" Was MC Shan A Sacrifice? 3 Reasons His Growth Was Stunted!
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It's not three reasons it's three letters, K R S lol
🙌
Yessssss
I came here looking for this comment or was going to post something similar
The other 3 letters are BDP
Although I will say what the uploader touched on is on point as well
Wrong it was Benny medina the Krs beef was never that deep since they have met in person around that time
@@shaquanthedon6184you don't think his choice to do drugs effected him and his career? When you're on drugs, you have no idea how much money 💵 you have burned.
Man, he was ahead of his time. he already knew how politics in the music industry worked
He may have been better off knowing how the business worked instead
A lot of people get jerked but a lot do get their shit right. You can’t expect record executives to look out for you.
@@nemya9586 sounds good now when we have everything on the internet but back when he was young someone would have to tell you. Those people were trying to take advantage of him. He’s intelligent because he’s still hear and owns his soul. As he said he still made money and don’t have to tour all year to be good.
@@happ13e you're right
"Jane stop this crazy thing!"
He’s a cool dude, I hit him up on Twitter one day and asked him to do a deejay drop for me. He said send me your email and 5 mins later it was in my email! One of my favorites from back in the day!
Lucky you 👍🏾
lol
Word up
You would’ve sh*tted on him if he didn’t do that drop!
@@Ishbikes lmao😂😂😂
Swear to god I actually felt the spit flying off Shan's lips during that "fuck hip-hop" rant 😭
lol
I'm dead Lmao
You felt that crack residue. Hope you don't catch a contact. It's a shame what he did to himself with drugs.
@@missshannon9790ugh 🤢
Spoken to him on IG, seems like a real good dude just maintaining now with his family.
Mc Shan one of my favorite 80s rappers
facts
Also he was asked to do fresh prince but he refused for the exact same reason he didn’t wanna be groomed and I respect it
😂😂He said look at Will sell out ass taking a picture with another man's finger on his chin. Mc Shan wasn't going for that butt ritual crap with Quincy and Benny
@@marvmon4735 that explains Will's behavior and him letting Jada clown him along with his daughter outright saying she wishes Tupac was still alive so her mom and him can get together... YIKES
Yea let’s all applaud a now broke man in his 50s for making a horrible career choice tnat cost him millions , RESPECT 🎉
MC Shan was one of the hottest artist from the late 80s to early 90s, but he took the business industry arrows for those to follow. It's his biggest contribution to hip hop culture outside the inspiration he was for Queens and New York musically. His career was interrupted by bad business and never reached the potential it could've.
Do shyheim from wu tang
How about doing Jae Millz
juice crew stunted growth maybe on the way after this 🤷🏾♂️
You need to learn how to ADD 🤣🤣🤣 you said he was born DEC 1965 that doesn’t make him 53 YEARS OLD 🤣🤣🤣 that makes him 57 on his last birthday a FEW WEEKS AGO‼️🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@donjonesmusic860 When he said f hip hop he was 53, not talking about how old he is now. How you feel? All them emojis for that...
Mc Shan always get left out of the Hip Hop discussion unless it's the beef with KRS-One and that's not right Shan was dope
True indeed
Mc shan is so influental in hip hop i heard someone say that mc shan is wack but i think he is a great mc
People forget that he pioneered that Monotone style rhyming a year before Rakim blew up and later by Emcees like Guru and Nas.Shan was that Dude back then
He wasn’t trying to play the game & he didn’t want to be controlled. To watch his freedom is beautiful. He loves building things, party buses, cars whatever it is he makes it with his hands. He made decisions most don’t agree with because he doesn’t live the way people thinks he should live. A real man lives by his own rules and true happiness is within and owned by self. I tell you one thing he made the right decision with Snow , some can’t even say that did that!! Kudos to Shan the legend that real hip hop heads won’t let anyone forget!!
Shan was my favorite emcee before rakim blew my mind and the beef with BDP didn't tarnish his character to me at all, I know that I shouldn't be commenting about myself but the old head that I am now is proud of my younger self (about 14 or 15) for not d*** riding because even though people felt that KRS-1 destroyed emcee shan I still had much love for both and still to this day when I'm listening to my Playlist and the bridge comes on I still get that hype feeling as if I'm hearing it for the first time shan was my first favorite!
That whole Golden Era we talking 82-90 was the foundational era for hip hop commercially, before that it was a park jam/night club thing…so to see young rappers disrespect these men that kicked down the doors for them is sad and disheartening
How you rapping but dont know who a MC Shan is or KRS or Rakim its shameful we should be ashamed as a culture
I totally agree!!!
It’s like wanting to be a big tech mogul and having no idea who bill gates or Elon musk are.
I love how you left out the rest of the 90's..how the hell is 90 the peak of Hip Hop when Nas Mobb Deep Jay-Z OutKast Wu-Tang when plenty of others aint even blew up yet?? The entire 90's is the golden era it does not stop at 90
@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI the 90s is not considered the golden era its more like the silver era, hip hop was at its creative peak in the 90s but not in its purest form you gotta realize gangsta rap dominated in the 90s, hip hop was never about that it was about having fun, unity, tagging, dancing
I say 92-99 cuz money starting coming In
I think that Shan had one foot in the streets ...he wasn't focused like BDK , Kool G Rap, or Biz Markie...the beef he had with LL Cool J and KRS One/Boogie Down Productions overshadowed the music he put out later...I remember listening to his music on Hip Hop Music shows on the radio and hearing his songs...his legacy remains etched in stone because Shan was essential to the success of Cold Chilling , the Juice Crew All Stars, and Marley Marl...who coincidently helped LL win a Grammy when he produced the "Mama Said Knock You Out " album!
Don't say kids smoking Crack back in the day is like kids smoking weed now weed was around then yo he made a choice to do that
Ikr crack was wack even back in the 80s.
SALUTE TO MC SHAN, He was one of the dopest Rappers in the 80's & 90's He was the first rapper I seen rocking the Kangol, Was a Smooth Ladies Man with lyrics. Yeah not having the business straight messed him up along with the drugs Also Turning down that will Fresh prince of bel air Role and standing on who he is not folding to Benny Medina and others like him in the industry. Mc shan produced that song for snow INFORMER. I'm old enough to remember his influence in hip hop and regardless to what others might say or think I still rock with and respect MC shan salute from chicago #60621certified
MC Shan is actually one of the best lyricists. I think his falling out with his cousin, Marl, had a lot to do with his stunted growth. But I heard he also had a coke habit. One could even argue, wrong place wrong time. The industry didn’t take the culture seriously and plus a lot Titans were out at the same time. MC Shan had Russell Simmons begging him to leave LL alone in the early days. Let’s give him his props.
HE GOT BLACKBALLED,JUST LIKE CANIBUS LATER
Russ begged him to leave LL alone? Interesting.
He couldn’t leave the drugs alone….
Left me lonely will always be my fav
Shan has an album that was finished in 1993 w/ features from Snow, Kool G and God knows who else but It was never released.
Sad.
That must be his family on the third album cover. Respect to him for that.
Shan saved me one day when a kid from Brooklyn went to Queensbridge to see a girl and brothers out there who didn't like that. let us just say if you not from that town you couldn't fight and win.
Lol...that's anytime you go to a neighborhood where they don't you...I had this happen in Brownsville...I'm from Queens..
He Saved Your Life But You Can’t SPELL HIS NAME (SHAN) RIGHT; OKAY ✅.
@CHILL SILLEGO Nah, he didn't save my life. He saved me from going to jail. Maybe from doing life.
@@ChillCityNightsthat’s wassup!
MC Shan (The Cousin Of Marley Marl)....I admire him for not compromising his moral & belief systems, play 2 gay, or engage in some weird rituals to achieve stardom & fortune. We all heard the story about how he was supposed to be the lead on "Fresh Prince Of Bel Air" before Will Got the part. He claimed that Benny Medina, the shows witer & producer, proposed him wanting Shan engaged in sexual activities to win the part as lead actor. Shan, wasn't with that so Benny gave it Will Smith. After allegedly Will dun did what Shan wouldn't..,..,So Shan is my hero for keeping his morals. Question, what rapper that but MC Shan's style ? I give you a hint.....this rapper is world renown, love the ladies, & now an actor ?
🌎🌞🤩🌛⭐🌎🌞🌛⭐
LL
The Artistic Culture is separte from the dirty filthy Industry which is a byproduct of filthy American Capitalism
We don’t really know if Will did it or not. Sounds like regular casting couch stuff. How that usually goes is they have a person they are thinking about going with, but if you could “persuade” them, they will pick you. If not, they will just go with the person they had in mind. Will might have been a better actor or just funnier at the time and that gave him the edge.
But think about it, if Shan or Will didn’t do the gay act, what would have happened? Would they just keep propositioning random people until someone did it? Lol come on. So Will probably didn’t even need to do it…at that time
I respect that statement as far as I know it's a proving fact that's gay and other diabolical rituals are required to advance your career of being an actor or a rapper in the music and the film industry. That why I respect Mc Shan!
@@60NXNP09 True indeed....! In this world you are not going to be a successful entertainer & not play " Hellyweird USA" game & think you gonna be a household name......The entertainment industry is now demonic. Having morals, positive belief systems, godly intent makes us the bad guys in a hellish industry. That's why I respect rappers like Shan for his rebellion against a industry that encourage wicked behavior.....
Bro, you should do the group Philly's Most Wanted. They were the duo that worked with the Neptunes before Clipse
They were the proto clipse so please don’t mind how they do.
I love your insight into the careers of these older artistes
God Bless dat man 4 holdin' on to his manhood
Rappers were getting jerked before Shan... Sugar hill gang got jerked too. Musicians been getting jerked, even before hiphop was created.
Sugar hill deserves it they stole that song they made from grandmaster caz
@@hittingdasauceCaz is that man foreal!
Now that you look at it you see a lot of MC Shan in Nas
This message was well needed 💯
Thx for telling the story 🏆
When you don't let them play in your back door you can't get the success,so that's why the other artist are successful today. Mc Shan wasn't going for it that's a real stand up guy,not willing to do anything for a check.
EXACTLY!! 💯
💯💯💯
Thank you for doing this, M.C. Shan was 1 of my favorites back in the day with classic tracks. TRULY a hip hop legend & icon!
Much respect for your hard work and originality in Hip-Hop….. a survival story indeed!
MC shan spoke about being approached to do Fresh Prince before Will i think that was a turning point in his Career. No excuses but you never know
Smoke crack was not like smoking weed …..
...Exactly
thanks cuz i was like i didn’t hear that right he might mean popping pills kids these days smoking crack it in the songs
When he said that, I was like, UM UM, GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT! 😂
Loved his drink champs episode. Authentic all the way
I LOVE YOUR VIDEO YOU TOLD IT AS CLOSE TO HOW I SAW IT .. I NEVER TAKE OFFENCE TO GOOD JOURNALISM.. THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE YOU FOR COMIMG FROM A TOTAL DIFFERENT ANGLE THAN ANYONE ELSE .....
Respect to the old school who laid the foundation
Growing up I always felt like the "Mad Rapper" was based on MC Shan
MC Shan is a Legend, but he never got the push he needed, especially after the BDP beef.
He look like LL cool j in the thumbnail lol......maby it the redd hat 😂🤣💯🎯🎯
I don’t knew about 3 reasons but 3 letters why his growth is stunned K R S 😂
FACTS
Right🎯💯🤣. On that note. That reminds me of years later on down the line such as...
2Pac vs. Biggie
Cash Money vs. No Limit
50Cent vs. JaRule
T.I. vs. Lil'Flip
But that's a different topic in the same "Hands Down" category.
Mannnnnnn I been rocking with you for a minute! Gon head and do biz markie since we in this era ! Ijs!
Great content 🏆
McShan, didn't want to give that backshot boogie. No Vaseline for real. One of my favorite Mc. Real brother. The rap industry is prostitution today.
Much respect 2 Mc Chan.. I'll never 4 get those moments from jr high
Suggestions : MC Breed, Dayton Family, Ray Cash, Crucial Conflict, Do Or Die
Snow was a blessing for Shan with that song Informer.
Straight up facts 💯👌
I would love for you to do a deep dive on Mickey Factz, a 10 to 15 minute video is well deserved. Love the content by the way 👏🏽
MC Shan was that dude. His flow is overlooked. He represented Queens quite well. Glad he wasn't naive👏👏
Stunt # 4 and I hate to say it and it’s OBVIOUS…him losing to BDP’s The Bridge Is Over. He hasn’t fully recovered after that, while BDP and KRS-One continued to make great classics throughout the years after.
And remember, the same thing happened when 50 Cent ruined Ja Rule and Murder Inc’s career.
LL and Canibus also
Well said, especially the comparison to Ja Rule. I agree and commented the same thing.
If you've ever seen the Beef documentaries (the only way I know about this brother since I'm a 90s babies/2000s kid) then it's plain to see.
Right on Brother Shan, don't let them play you.. My brothers played his music all the time, ln Atlanta was one of the songs.
Have you done one on Ed. O.G. and the Bulldogs? 🙂
They need growth on them. Definitely should've blow up after their debut album.
because of Shan, we also got Snow haha! I know he's still eating off Informer and that remix they made a few years back!
Had his tape when it came out. Man I miss those good ol'days.
😆naw man! smoking crack in the 80s was not like kids nowaday smoking weed is like kids nowaday smoking crack
Yes crack was poppin in da 80s n 90s BUT its not like kids smokin weed 2day but I get wut u sayin lol
Right, cause people was smoking weed back then, too. Crack was a whole nother level.
@@SANTANA0910 EXACTLY lol Crack def was anotha level lol
Yea maybe a lil much
Hey can you do one on Spooks? The group that sing Things I've Seen.
MC Shan vs KRS1 back in the day was str8 up heat classic Hip Hop ✊🏿
Smoking crack and snorting coke in the 80s WAS NOT like smoking weed now. It was taboo...
Can you do Killa Army next
Salute
Shan is LEGEND STATUS!!! Jibril brought me here!!
Can you do your next video on Camp Lo?
I was always convinced Gary Coleman and Webster's growth was purposefully stunted
Lol
Mc Shan tracks was & still is hot 🔥 if played at any event today.
Can you do an episode on
Channel Live if you haven't already?
MC Shan made Suede Puma’s popular in the world 🌎 of Hip-Hop fashion. Much love and Much respect.
You should do Lost Boyz if not already
SEAN PRICE NEXT!
Salute to Shan and SGM for the breakdown.
Shan was one of my favorite MCs back then and now….
Request: Rampage Last Boy Scout
That’s the true mc shan for real
Hip Hop doesn’t have nothing to do with anything! The problem started out when Greedy executives starting having an interest in our culture and taking advantages of by putting Hip Hop on a chokehold
KANYE IS RIGHT
@@stephenheath8465 💯
@@stephenheath8465 right and it's not always gay sex, it could be a agent or moguels daughter or sex trafficked girls they and they use that to keep them from leaving or they sacrifice close friends or family members
After watching this, I realized you need to do a video on Barz N Hooks. MC Shan is always referenced by Mike Delorean.
How many of us are fallen soldiers in this thang that was mainstream labeled as Hip Hop.
As soon as I realized as a kid in the 70's that what we did, M.C., D.J., Breakdancing etc was being labeled as Hip Hop by big mainstream corporations.
See back then in every rhyme we said Hip Hop and Don't Stop!!!!
Mainstream observed what was being said in our rhymes then conveniently labeled what we was doing as Hip Hop.
I knew what we enjoyed doing as kids was being stolen from us,,, right before our very eyes.
The business aspect of this so called Hip Hop actually destroyed many young artist.
I see where M.C. SHAN is coming from.
Great Post!!!!
Can you do one on Akinyele?
What about mc shyD love the videos bro
Do ICE T Next why ? Because he was one of the first to transition music to movies and he was a b boy rapper first originally from the east coast .
I was told that MC Shan is the cousin of my preschool teacher I still see her till this day and I didn't know that MC Shan was her cousin till my dad told me recently 💯
Can you do Boyz n da hood next?
A tell it like it is type of guy not going to go along to get along.....this gets you black balled in a room of powerful people.
Can we get something about Lord Superb or even Schoolly D
Those thumbnails look like Corey Gunz
Let's see one on The Hilltop Hustlers.
Mc shan said something that's important handle your business and don't trust everybody.
You should do Da Youngstas next
What Happ to Mr. Grimm?
He had that one song.
And where organized noise?
The Benny Medina story is wild
Oh yeah, and here's an honorary 4th stunted growth reason because let's be honest: KRS-One burying him 12 feet in the dirt with The Bridge Is Over (and then again years later in the 2010s when Shan tried to re-spark the beef).
Haaa yea I rememba dat n I listened 2 da song Shan had n it was trash smh but Shan was fire from like 84-87
Can u do famLAY from star trak?
He and KRS was in the Sprite commercial together in the late 90s.
I remember that!
@@missshannon9790 I'll always rock with Sprite because they always respected real hip-hop to this day
@@thepubknight6144 you might have a point. Sprite is corporate but at least they ain't corny and they at least try to preserve some realness.
The commercial Sprite put out last X_mas with the three Black youth singing Joy To The World and the buffoonish brotha asking if he could be a play cousin and they told him no was cute. Had a very authentic feel.
MC Shan is 58 Years Old in 2023 my Immigrant friend who did this Video. I grew up a couple of miles from Queensbridge in the 1970s my Immigrant friend 😂. I say my "Immigrant friend" because a naturalized Black American would've Known this... 🤨
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When you said that he was doing drugs, I was like 🥴
Dam what year was this filmed? Shan is 57 yrs. old
He wasn't a sacrifice he just didn't take shit from the music industry and refused to be controlled by Warner bros not to mention he pissed off Benny Medina who had him blackballed by everyone and also played apart of the reason why he was only in the movie LA story in 1991 along side Steve Martin Shan was a straight up rebel
I swear Shan looks like he can be Youngboy NBA's daddy especially at the beginning of this video😂
Son, smoking Crack in the 80's was NOT the same as smoking weed these days. Crack has ALWAYS been a hardcore/stay-away from drug. Please don't mislead ANYONE, especially the youth, to believe that this drug was common or used casually amongst the masses. Anyone who used it, was considered a disgrace. To be a "Crackhead" was shunned upon.
MC Space my favorite joint from him
Sad...shot out to m.c.Shan.
He looks like Martin Lawrence. If Martian Lawrence was a rapper
Yo salute to my big homie.. MC Shan I had the opportunity to DJ for him biz markie and Roxanne shante when they came to club efx and miracles on Clinton avenue Rochester New York... Salute The Rock City legend Mixmaster@... Peace to the FUA...crew....!!!!!!
Two three times dope