Yea I tried 6000C36 and it was fine but now the better kit had arrived I was using that at 7600C36. Board likely won't take 7800MT after looking at the compatibility matrix on the site
@@BornInArona with RAM, once I reach a certain point I just stop altogether and enjoy like on my Intel Rig. 7200C32 with tightened secondaries and tertiaries
What’s up big bro?! It’s the reverse of MSI where 1,2,3 are higher on ASUS 5,6,7 are the higher almost overvolted settings. I use auto but when I was using a static OC on the 7950X I think I was at 1.27V 5.275GHz all core and manually had set to 5 or 6 to keep that voltage. Almost no Vdroop there.
I’ll also throw that when I was manually setting voltages on a static all core OC the estimator on the side based on LLC was super helpful and usually came close to .01-.03 from stable. I haven’t dabbled with the X3D chip because there’s so much going on behind the curtain that PBO was the easier bet.
Sometimes I'm getting a long red light when I boot the only solution found was to remove cmos and reinsert. Do you have any other method to solve this.
@@madworker1927 nah, this board doesn't have a clear CMOS button but it does have the jumpers that you can kill the power from the PSU and hold a screw driver to and it does the same thing. Believe they're bottom right and 2 pins that say Clear RTC
@@madworker1927 also would check my PBO curve and make sure it’s not too aggressive causing crashes on boots. red light usually means CPU related and orange is usually RAM related
Something like it. They had preloaded presets for different memory manufacturers that are a decent starting point then you can tighten and tweak as needed from my experience.
I just bought this board on sale, a 7900x3d, on sale and 32 gig ddr5 6000 ram, yep on sale. The 4090 was not on sale. No regrets. Had a few teething pangs but all sorted out.
Yea, it's a great entry point for the X670E platform and costs like +$30 to a beefy B650E board so why not, especially if you're going to drop the next generation of CPUs in
I hate being that guy but I would swap out the 7900X3D for the 7950X3D or the 7800X3D if you're mainly gaming. 6 cores Vcache versus 8 cores on the other two chips. Your call, it's still a decent chip but many games can ping the additional cores
To me this is about as good as it gets man. A few more bucks than a decent B650 and really does everything you could ask for with no frills. It has just enough of the high end features and it’s again no frills. Links are in the description if you want to support the channel. My current boards are Z790 Apex Encore, this TUF X670-E, and the only regret B650 Tomahawk from MSI
I've heard of Buildzoid making some DDR5 overclocking guides and if you search up DDR5 Overclocking guide, you'll find a decent walkthrough from Overclockers.net
To this day expo doesn’t work for me :( my ram is rated for 6000 with docp and 4800 without it, do you think just setting the frequency would be stable with ur values as I see if you have some different settings? Would you set it to the same as your rams rated using docp but without enabling that?
With my value in this video, likely not. You have to touch up the voltage as well. That’s what I did before is copy the primaries from the box (with XMP sticks) then manually set voltage and went from there.
@@FIVESTRZah understood thank you. So just to confirm to follow what you did I’d need to set my own vddp depending on my specs as well as manual ram timings from my ram box? I’ll give that a go I haven’t tried what you did yet and very similar set up except I had 6000mhz ram and a 7700x. Also did you ever try using docp or same issues as me?
@@redditmanllegnisthebirdofh9887 now I use DOCP and it’s fine because my board supports up to 8000MT RAM but yea, I wouldn’t actually try pushing that hard. Sticking to 7800C36 has worked for me through now
@@FIVESTRZ ohh gotcha okay well that’s good to know it might be fixable then for me too cuz it’s been making me go nuts not wanting to buy a new mobo. I have been too scared to go from 1809-1813 just because previously I had issues but maybe I’ll update if that’s what you’re using
@@FIVESTRZ it’s niche but it’s only on some asus boards to prevent a bug with 9000 series and software like hwinfo/nzxt cam where the board cannot reboot from windows properly. I’m just curious because I’m in the market for your board and can’t get confirmation online other than high end strix boards.
@@FIVESTRZ Yea the setting is under tweakers paradise. Im pretty sure the strix boards all have it, was just wondering if the tuf board also has it since asus likes to skimp on features with the tuf series. Its only on the most recent bios however.
Just wanted to share with you & everyone else on here…. Find highest fclk & highest memory speed. when you do, check if your values for “ tphyrdl “ match. It will typically match for 6000-6200 @ 36/36. For 5800 with gear down mode off it should match @ 35/35 with proc odt @ 60. When attempting 6400, If they don’t match without touching any settings in bios then change “ CK TX PHASE SHIFT “ to 3. boot into windows & check zen timings to see if they match. I couldn’t get it to match without changing that setting. Now I can run 6400 / fclk 2133 without the latency penalty :). For asus when booting with 6400 it will most likely default your vsoc to 1.285v, Vddio 1.400v. In terms of vddq=vdd. vddq can have a -0.02000 offset from vdd. Vddp should be 0.0100mv lower then Vddio. you can keep lowering it until it’s not stable. if you have a really good cpu then you can just get away with lowering it by a tone. for getting gear down mode off while having “ TPHYRDL’s “ match is a different case that I have yet to succeed with lol. so yea, find highest speed with highest fclk or matching fclk. & then tune your timings. then drop voltage for vddq / Vddio / vddp / vsoc. Vsoc & vddp effect matching “ TPHYRDL’s “. too low on any one of those & they will not match. good luck to you all 🦦💚
@fivestrz thanks for this! I have the same motherboard, but cannot get the optical audio port to work. I've been told its in the BIOS to enable optical, but I've scoured every menu and cannot find it. Is that something you've come across? It's vital for setup and it's getting to the point where if I can't get it enabled I may have to either buy a soundcard or return the motherboard. Thanks!
I use a USB hub to connect my headset to both towers so I’ve never bothered with optical audio, have nothing to test with either. Any mention in the motherboard manual?
@@George-um2vc yes you can download under the support tab after you've selected your board. They'll probably have a quick how to video as well, my advice is to make sure that your board has the optimized defaults loaded before starting Q-Flash or whatever ASUS calls it
Im wating only the case carsair 7000D airflow of my new pc i build a 7800x3d with rx7800xt with that motherboard and 6 terabyte storage m.2 990 pro and seasonic vertex 1200w
Try to search for the Vcache Preferred setting for Gigabyte. Optimum Tech made a PBO2 video via a Gigabyte board so that may at least get you some of the way there
@@Troonielicious for PBO you can see it via this guide on Gigabyte ruclips.net/video/JcyVgTUvQEc/видео.html I haven’t found anything on flipping a switch for Gigabyte, just ASUS. YOU can also use process lasso
Issue was the auto setting on older bios than this video boosting up to 1.4-1.5V and frying chips. I use 1.2 now if I’m not mistaken but that’s because I took it off Auto AND I’m not using C26/C28 primary timings so completely different numbers on the RAM now
@@FIVESTRZ I have a 6400 DDR5 RAM WITH RYZEN 9 7900X WITH ROG X670E-F Motherboard , I'm kinda worried about the SOC voltage so I manually set the SOC VOLTAGE on 1.25 to keep it below 1.3, and VDDIO on 1.35 to keep it below 1.4 , and at the moment when I boot up my system the yellow light on my motherboard taking so long to boot up like 20 seconds only on the yellow light!! , what should I change, so you are saying with the new bios it is safe to put them on auto ? My bios is 1807 now at the moment.
@@FIVESTRZ no I think 1807 is actually the latest BIOS at the moment but when I checked on hwimfo still it goes above 1.3 for SOC VOLTAGE and 1.4 on VDDIO when I set them on Auto ! So I'm confused
Hello! thank you for this, i want to move to ryzen and this is my MB of choice, what stable kit recommend for this board? 64gb im aimin, (2x32) at least 6000 or 6200 CL30 (if this can be stable at lower id be happy) also i subbed!
Thanks for the sub. I have links to the TeamGroup kit I use, it's 7200C34 and I run it at 7800C36. You can look into the newer high density M Die kits buy I haven't tried tuning 2x32GB kits, they were harder at the time and I just went with A Die which was typically 2x16GB
@@BornInArona when I made the video I was running something obscene like 6200C26 but 7800C36 is what I’m running nowadays with almost XMP levels of voltage
I use the TeamGroup 7200C34 kit and tune them down to 6000/6200/6400 but now I’ve overclocked them to 7600C36 with the new bios update and XMP (DOCP) works fine as well
@@FIVESTRZ Thing is with some people that say “look what numbers I’m getting in a benchmark using this cpu” fail to mention is that they are using certain tricks on top to get better results. You are showing what everyone can expect which is obtainable to most with no trickery involved.
Yea I think of myself of an average guy versus an XOC so most of my numbers are attainable. I don’t use Liquid Metal to cool the CPUs, I don’t have custom loops, and I don’t delid my CPUs so everyone can make it happen with AIOs and decent case airflow
This video was enhanced with the support by channel supporter and friend Stuckeyman.
I am sure people will find this very helpful . Well done.👍
Hopefully, it’ll for sure at least get folks moving in the right direction
got my board yesterday for 200€
Nice nice. I just order the T Create 7200 kit. Running it at 7600C36 on a B650. This board and my 7950X3D allowed a better OC.
@@FIVESTRZ well, the ram I want to buy has 30 36 36 76 by default, I guess that's more than fine as stock?
Yea I tried 6000C36 and it was fine but now the better kit had arrived I was using that at 7600C36. Board likely won't take 7800MT after looking at the compatibility matrix on the site
@@FIVESTRZ you're never pleased XD
@@BornInArona with RAM, once I reach a certain point I just stop altogether and enjoy like on my Intel Rig. 7200C32 with tightened secondaries and tertiaries
how do i set my set soc? When i enable manual i have to field to type in the voltage
That’s how you’d set it is that field that lets you type.
I,m curious about LLC with Asus voards. Is 1 the highest and 7 lowest? Or is it reverse.
What’s up big bro?! It’s the reverse of MSI where 1,2,3 are higher on ASUS 5,6,7 are the higher almost overvolted settings. I use auto but when I was using a static OC on the 7950X I think I was at 1.27V 5.275GHz all core and manually had set to 5 or 6 to keep that voltage. Almost no Vdroop there.
I’ll also throw that when I was manually setting voltages on a static all core OC the estimator on the side based on LLC was super helpful and usually came close to .01-.03 from stable. I haven’t dabbled with the X3D chip because there’s so much going on behind the curtain that PBO was the easier bet.
Sometimes I'm getting a long red light when I boot the only solution found was to remove cmos and reinsert.
Do you have any other method to solve this.
@@madworker1927 nah, this board doesn't have a clear CMOS button but it does have the jumpers that you can kill the power from the PSU and hold a screw driver to and it does the same thing. Believe they're bottom right and 2 pins that say Clear RTC
@@madworker1927 also would check my PBO curve and make sure it’s not too aggressive causing crashes on boots. red light usually means CPU related and orange is usually RAM related
Does Asus have Memory try it like MSI, if it's called something else in the bios I would like to know.
Something like it. They had preloaded presets for different memory manufacturers that are a decent starting point then you can tighten and tweak as needed from my experience.
I just bought this board on sale, a 7900x3d, on sale and 32 gig ddr5 6000 ram, yep on sale.
The 4090 was not on sale. No regrets. Had a few teething pangs but all sorted out.
Yea, it's a great entry point for the X670E platform and costs like +$30 to a beefy B650E board so why not, especially if you're going to drop the next generation of CPUs in
I hate being that guy but I would swap out the 7900X3D for the 7950X3D or the 7800X3D if you're mainly gaming. 6 cores Vcache versus 8 cores on the other two chips. Your call, it's still a decent chip but many games can ping the additional cores
Is it support dual gpu rtx 3090?
Never tried but I think your case would be what stopped you from being able to do that. What games are you playing that support SLI?
How has your experience been in these few months? Is this motherboard worth buying ? did You had any problems during this time?
To me this is about as good as it gets man. A few more bucks than a decent B650 and really does everything you could ask for with no frills. It has just enough of the high end features and it’s again no frills. Links are in the description if you want to support the channel.
My current boards are Z790 Apex Encore, this TUF X670-E, and the only regret B650 Tomahawk from MSI
Hey. Buddy.I have a asus x670e board with 7950. And the ram 128 gb. With 6000mhz. But I can’t run at 6000mhz. Please can you help me on it.
Yea you’re going to most likely have to manually tune the RAM yourself. DDR5 with 4x sticks is pretty much a no fly zone with XMP/DOCP
@@FIVESTRZ any idea where I can find walkthrough setting for asus x670e
I've heard of Buildzoid making some DDR5 overclocking guides and if you search up DDR5 Overclocking guide, you'll find a decent walkthrough from Overclockers.net
To this day expo doesn’t work for me :( my ram is rated for 6000 with docp and 4800 without it, do you think just setting the frequency would be stable with ur values as I see if you have some different settings? Would you set it to the same as your rams rated using docp but without enabling that?
With my value in this video, likely not. You have to touch up the voltage as well. That’s what I did before is copy the primaries from the box (with XMP sticks) then manually set voltage and went from there.
@@FIVESTRZah understood thank you. So just to confirm to follow what you did I’d need to set my own vddp depending on my specs as well as manual ram timings from my ram box? I’ll give that a go I haven’t tried what you did yet and very similar set up except I had 6000mhz ram and a 7700x. Also did you ever try using docp or same issues as me?
@@redditmanllegnisthebirdofh9887 now I use DOCP and it’s fine because my board supports up to 8000MT RAM but yea, I wouldn’t actually try pushing that hard. Sticking to 7800C36 has worked for me through now
@@FIVESTRZ ohh gotcha okay well that’s good to know it might be fixable then for me too cuz it’s been making me go nuts not wanting to buy a new mobo. I have been too scared to go from 1809-1813 just because previously I had issues but maybe I’ll update if that’s what you’re using
@@FIVESTRZ thats the same Ram I have but I got the 6000mhxz
If your on the newest bios, could you check if “Monitoring software reboot workaround” is available under tweakers paradise?
I will check, haven't tweaked BIOS pretty much other than once since this video.
@@FIVESTRZ it’s niche but it’s only on some asus boards to prevent a bug with 9000 series and software like hwinfo/nzxt cam where the board cannot reboot from windows properly. I’m just curious because I’m in the market for your board and can’t get confirmation online other than high end strix boards.
I’m using my 9800X3D with the X670E-E, the Strix board lol. So you’re looking for that setting verbatim?
@@FIVESTRZ Yea the setting is under tweakers paradise. Im pretty sure the strix boards all have it, was just wondering if the tuf board also has it since asus likes to skimp on features with the tuf series. Its only on the most recent bios however.
@DudeYourAJerk I can almost promise you that I don’t have the latest BIOS lol. Still will check
Just wanted to share with you & everyone else on here…. Find highest fclk & highest memory speed. when you do, check if your values for “ tphyrdl “ match.
It will typically match for 6000-6200 @ 36/36.
For 5800 with gear down mode off it should match @ 35/35 with proc odt @ 60.
When attempting 6400, If they don’t match without touching any settings in bios then change “ CK TX PHASE SHIFT “ to 3.
boot into windows & check zen timings to see if they match.
I couldn’t get it to match without changing that setting.
Now I can run 6400 / fclk 2133 without the latency penalty :).
For asus when booting with 6400 it will most likely default your vsoc to 1.285v, Vddio 1.400v.
In terms of vddq=vdd. vddq can have a -0.02000 offset from vdd.
Vddp should be 0.0100mv lower then Vddio. you can keep lowering it until it’s not stable.
if you have a really good cpu then you can just get away with lowering it by a tone.
for getting gear down mode off while having “ TPHYRDL’s “ match is a different case that I have yet to succeed with lol.
so yea, find highest speed with highest fclk or matching fclk. & then tune your timings. then drop voltage for vddq / Vddio / vddp / vsoc.
Vsoc & vddp effect matching “ TPHYRDL’s “. too low on any one of those & they will not match.
good luck to you all 🦦💚
That's a great tip, I appreciate you sharing it!
@fivestrz thanks for this! I have the same motherboard, but cannot get the optical audio port to work. I've been told its in the BIOS to enable optical, but I've scoured every menu and cannot find it. Is that something you've come across? It's vital for setup and it's getting to the point where if I can't get it enabled I may have to either buy a soundcard or return the motherboard. Thanks!
I use a USB hub to connect my headset to both towers so I’ve never bothered with optical audio, have nothing to test with either. Any mention in the motherboard manual?
Did u update the bios when u bought the motherboard?
Since I bought the board, yes, when I bought the board, no. I got it alongside the 7950X
@@FIVESTRZ I just bought this board, do you recommend updating the bios?
@George-um2vc yea, especially if it’s been sitting for a while and doesn’t have the SOC voltage protection measures that put a few chips at risk
@@FIVESTRZ dang true I forgot! Can I just download the bios from ASUS sit or are extra steps needed? (Thank you for the reply btw)
@@George-um2vc yes you can download under the support tab after you've selected your board. They'll probably have a quick how to video as well, my advice is to make sure that your board has the optimized defaults loaded before starting Q-Flash or whatever ASUS calls it
Im wating only the case carsair 7000D airflow of my new pc i build a 7800x3d with rx7800xt with that motherboard and 6 terabyte storage m.2 990 pro and seasonic vertex 1200w
Never had that one but run away from the 5000D Airflow
My gigabyte doesn’t have these settings 😢
Try to search for the Vcache Preferred setting for Gigabyte. Optimum Tech made a PBO2 video via a Gigabyte board so that may at least get you some of the way there
@@FIVESTRZ I found something that says ACP SPRAT L3 Cache as Numa Domain
Don’t know if that’s it
@@Troonielicious for PBO you can see it via this guide on Gigabyte ruclips.net/video/JcyVgTUvQEc/видео.html
I haven’t found anything on flipping a switch for Gigabyte, just ASUS. YOU can also use process lasso
@@FIVESTRZ I’ll watch it right now, thanks again for everything that you do to help. 🙏🏼
going to build 7800x3d + 7900xtx with this board
There ya go, links in bio. Newer bios update has me at 7800C36
Your SOC voltage is above 1.3 isn't that dangerous?
Issue was the auto setting on older bios than this video boosting up to 1.4-1.5V and frying chips. I use 1.2 now if I’m not mistaken but that’s because I took it off Auto AND I’m not using C26/C28 primary timings so completely different numbers on the RAM now
@@FIVESTRZ I have a 6400 DDR5 RAM WITH RYZEN 9 7900X WITH ROG X670E-F Motherboard , I'm kinda worried about the SOC voltage so I manually set the SOC VOLTAGE on 1.25 to keep it below 1.3, and VDDIO on 1.35 to keep it below 1.4 , and at the moment when I boot up my system the yellow light on my motherboard taking so long to boot up like 20 seconds only on the yellow light!! , what should I change, so you are saying with the new bios it is safe to put them on auto ? My bios is 1807 now at the moment.
The concerning part for me is that when I checked hwimfo my SOC voltage is on 1.341, and VDDIO is on 1.430 , is that ok ?
@@RainOnWarpaint are you on an older bios?
@@FIVESTRZ no I think 1807 is actually the latest BIOS at the moment but when I checked on hwimfo still it goes above 1.3 for SOC VOLTAGE and 1.4 on VDDIO when I set them on Auto ! So I'm confused
Hello! thank you for this, i want to move to ryzen and this is my MB of choice, what stable kit recommend for this board? 64gb im aimin, (2x32) at least 6000 or 6200 CL30 (if this can be stable at lower id be happy) also i subbed!
Thanks for the sub. I have links to the TeamGroup kit I use, it's 7200C34 and I run it at 7800C36. You can look into the newer high density M Die kits buy I haven't tried tuning 2x32GB kits, they were harder at the time and I just went with A Die which was typically 2x16GB
@@FIVESTRZwhat cpu are you using for that memory oc ? that’s wild lol. you got lucky
Hey mate, funny that I found you again while searching for that mobo 😅
RUclips is a small world 😂
@@FIVESTRZwhat ram and speeds are you using?
@@BornInArona when I made the video I was running something obscene like 6200C26 but 7800C36 is what I’m running nowadays with almost XMP levels of voltage
@@FIVESTRZ 6200 and cl28 sick, or is the other ram configure better in your opinion?
@BornInArona different. Performance I can't tell the difference but more importantly the voltage is like .5-.6 less which is huge.
why did you not use expo 1 or 2 ?
I use the TeamGroup 7200C34 kit and tune them down to 6000/6200/6400 but now I’ve overclocked them to 7600C36 with the new bios update and XMP (DOCP) works fine as well
@@FIVESTRZ oh so docp 1 and 2 work fine for you if you just use the auto docp 1 or 2 in ez mode regardless? What bios are you on rn? 1809 or 1813?
Thank you 👍
No problem, gonna make a thumbnail then I’ll send it live for everyone
@@FIVESTRZ Thing is with some people that say “look what numbers I’m getting in a benchmark using this cpu” fail to mention is that they are using certain tricks on top to get better results. You are showing what everyone can expect which is obtainable to most with no trickery involved.
Yea I think of myself of an average guy versus an XOC so most of my numbers are attainable. I don’t use Liquid Metal to cool the CPUs, I don’t have custom loops, and I don’t delid my CPUs so everyone can make it happen with AIOs and decent case airflow