How To Install DDR5 RAM Into PC & EXPO DOCP XMP BIOS Settings You Must Change
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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How to Install DDR5 RAM into PC and BIOS settings you must change to get the most out your new RAM and make it reliable and stable.
How to stop crashing on DDR5 systems!
In this video will will be installing some Lexar Ares ARGB DDR5 6400mhz RAM (32GB)
and the motherboard for the physical install will be the MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WiFi
When we look at the BIOS settings that need changing we will be using the ASUS B650 TUF Gaming Plus WiFi and looking at EXPO / DOCP /XMP options and some specific features that can cause problems more on AMD platforms than Intel ones, but it is good information to have in your mind for when the time comes to upgrade.
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can you please do a review on the cit diamond xr case
@@Ryfty_2 I'll see what I can do 🙂
Mike. If your going to replace a ddr5 ram with a new one, do I need to reset bios or clear cmos?
@@wankerka No but turn off XMP
@@mikesunboxing yep done that ty.
Great video, thanks Mike and Kath.
cheers bob, happy new year
Great video Mike. You always provide educational content for us pc builders/enthusiasts. Keep it up.
Thanks, will do!
ayo, I actually got results from this video. Thanks brother. Those two settings you went over at the end was my problem. I had those set to auto and my bios time went from 8 seconds to 30+ seconds. I enabled those two settings and now my boot times are normal again. Thanks a ton. Cheers m8
Glad it helped
Great info Mike and Lady Kath. This will come in very handy when I move from DDR3-1600 to DDR4 & DDR5. My core i7-3770 and 16gb of ram are still running strong. Does everything I need it for. 😄 Thanks for sharing guys. Take care everyone. Cheers
i always say, if the pc does what you need it to, then it is a good pc
@@mikesunboxing Thanks Mike. Currently built an AMD test rig from parts I had. B450M PRO-VDH MAX DDR4-3200 32GB ram and a GTX 750. Yeah I know the GTX is the bottleneck. Cheers
Great video Mike. I'll be sure to check the DRAM timing control settings as described :)
Thank you this solved my issue with ddr5 now its running at 6000mhz!
glad it helped
Thanks for this great video Mike. The first time, I only had EXPO enabled. I would get random crashes and the pc would reboot. This time I did the memory context restore and the power down enable. Hopefully this will work for me with out crashing. Thanks again Mike.
cheers Mitch! hope it works for you
@@mikesunboxing Unfortunately Mike, it did not work. I think I was less then a 30 minutes before I crashed on a live RUclips stream. Should I take this back, which would be the 3rd motherboard in a row, or maybe bump it down to 5800 or 5600 and see how it reacts. I bought the windows 11 key, am I able to use that on another motherboard if I take this back? Thanks.
I have Ryzen 7 7800x3d and ram that can do up to 6400mhz but I’m having the same problems
@@MitchHamantry the 5600
@mikesunboxing I did a completely manual setting still, using the settings of my memory at 6000 without using expo. I went over two hours without crashing. Not long enough of a test, but we will see.
Nice looking ram.Great review Mike.Thank you for sharing 👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks for watching!
Just looked up release dates. DDR4 is 9 years old now and DDR3 was 2007, and I feel so old now.
Started on BBS boards on a 1200 Baud modem a long time ago... today feels like Science Fiction compared to when I started.
yeah i know exactly what you mean
Enjoy these tutorials just like bios flash. Yesterday I upgraded dters pc from A320m to B450 so made error had to think what would Mike do🤔 clear cmos start again, set xmp fans and then clean install of win11. Thanks Mike & Kath for great channel 👍🐈
Thank you for the kind words and support
Great review on how to (ddr5 ).Even the simple things can catch you out .I'm glad that my AM4 (ddr4) doesn't have memory training thing issues. Hope the next " AM6 " boards and bios sorts that out automatically . I have seen quite a few people complaining about AM5 memory training. Upgrading should be made easier.. don't you think Mike. Thanks for the tips and educating us on the next step in upgrades . Good Vid Mike
Thanks and yes it is a pain and hopefully amd works it out, intel hasn’t suffered any issues with ddr5 setup or speeds and weirdly amd were the ones that decoupled the ram from the fsb
Great video Mike ! as always.
Thanks appreciate it
Love the amazing video to teach some thing and know abit more！
Happy to hear that!
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Nice video, but just a word of warning. In the video you show how easy it is to push the Dimms into place but it’s better to grip the memory firmly when inserting, I’ve seen people pushing off center and cracking the socket. It’s even more likely when they have the Dimm the wrong way around.
Ok, thanks
This is the first video I have found that gives me some clue about why I'm having issues with my new build. I have the exact MSI Z790 board you show at the beginning of the video. It has 48Gb Crucial DDR5 Pro (paired kit of 2x24Gb) and a Intel i5 14600K. Graphics card is MSI Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 OC 12GB DDR6. OS drive is aCrucial T500 1Tb M.2 SSD with Windows 11 installed. I have been experiencing BSOD's quite a lot and have been trying to figure out why. Are the BIOS memory settings crucial for this setup to work properly?. Please do a video showing BIOS settings for Z790 board if possible as it differs from the one you show. Thanks and I have subscribed.
thanks for the sub and i am waiting on a cpu to fire the board up again and i'll try and do a bios tour
@@mikesunboxing Brilliant! Thanks
Hello! Great video. I have a question tho. When enabling the XMP, will your pc fans go crazy? I had this issue on a build a few years ago. I enabled XMP and my fans went full on hardcore mode
XMP used to also increase the memory controller and overall load on the CPU, that should not be as much of a load these days
So the offset of the notch is much closer to the center of DDR5 RAM than with DDR4?
Seems to me that it is a recipe for disaster and the potential for broken slots or RAM sticks.
I am planning a new build later in 2025 on the AMD side, and this MUB episode has given me some more insight. Thanks!
You would have to use an extreme amount of force to break a stick of ram, especially those with heatsinks attached.
i have not managed to get a RAM stick installed the wrong way round at present, but i am sure someone will do it on a more flexible motherboard
Hi Mike, appreciate the video. I'm curious if think you running EXPO on an ASUS motherboard with 4 RAM sticks is possible?
I'm currently trying to get 4 sticks to work but so far no luck on getting them to run in Expo with out BSOD. I just upgraded my system to an ASUS B650 board, with a 7800X3D cpu and Corsair Dominator Titanium RAM. It's been to say the least frustrating to find a fix.
unlikely i would say, i don't think i know of anyone that has successfully done it
Hi Mike, I have one of those gigabyte boards the B650M D3HP I got a really good deal on it with Ryzen 7 7800x3d, my question for you is a DDR five ram. I keep seeing so much things about people having issues with the ram before I pull the trigger and purchase some any advice. I’m not a big over clocker, thanks again. Your channel was awesome.
just make sure the RAM you buy is EXPO certified that takes a lot of the hassle away. and ideally 6000mt
Please help I have a b650-a and when I try put my ram in slot 4 it don’t work only lets me boot with one ram stick in slot 2 I’ve tried anything and don’t know what to do
@@qtal1929 This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu
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Thank you ,Help me. I can start my PC . ❤️👍
Have fun!
Great 😀 now i only have to remember to look up on a MUB video to Know how to 👍
Yes you do, we are here to help.
@@mikesunboxing Thank you very much MUB King 😀
@@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie Thank you for supporting the Channel ;-)
Would like to see you cover 4 sticks of RAM in MSI Z790 motherboards if possible? Thx
it is possible but the frequency will need to be less as the memory controller isn't great on a lot of processors, if you look at the supported RAM speeds in the manual it explains it much better than i could
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! I had a problem with the computer starting up taking a long time and after your video the problem was solved!! Congratulations on the work!! Hugs from BRAZIL!!😀😍
You're welcome!
Is it true that two sticks are better than four? So for example, would it be better to use 2 x 16GB or 4 x 8GB memory sticks? I've been told that 2 is better. Can you explain?
The memory controller is dual channel so two single sticks is better as the controller doesn’t need to share the bandwidth and voltage to drive the extra sticks when 4 sticks are used. Usually two sticks can achieve higher speeds because of this. More sticks usually means lower frequency to get a stable connection
The only problem here is that ddr5 won't fit into a Ddr4. It's totally different. I've done some checking as I upgraded my Ddr4 from 8gb to 16gb last yr
I was all for this until i heard the 'blie screen of death' now I'm hesitant 😂
Don’t worry with the newer bios revisions on most boards this is very good
@@mikesunboxing is just enabling expo enough or do all the prior settings need to change too? I don't want to go too far into it not knowing how to rectify or catch something not working correctly. I don't need a massive boost in performance but it would be nice to get the full amount of RAM speeds
Memory prices are not too bad now it seems.. so may be a good time to upgrade for more . Too bad itx motherboards are still out of reach..😞
Just bought a asrock h610m itx ac for a little itx project and a 12400 cpu, still on the fence for a itx gpu though
Can I do this before installing windows?
yes it is best to do it before installing windows
I have a prime b650m-a ax and asus tells me 5600 mhz is the fastest it can handle so if I buy 6000mhz to see if it works and don't. Can I adjust the settings to make it work?
it is more to do with the CPU memory controller, 6000 should be possible in dual channel mode with EXPO rated RAM
@mikesunboxing thank u ur blessings!
My boot time increased after activating XMP profile on my MsI AM5 motherboard.
Used to be like 25 seconds, now it’s 50 seconds
did you enable power down mode and context restore
@@mikesunboxing nop, I will do that tomorrow then.
I just noticed tonight after some days using the XMP profile
@@mikesunboxing I just enabled the context mode, couldn't find the Power down mode.
I use MPG B650 Edge wifi mobo
This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu
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@@mikesunboxing yeah, I fixed it
I joined the discord server already
I was the one who brought it up earlier
Thanks so much for your input
What is the expo tweaked?
it matches the full extended SPD DATA from the RAM
I just build my pc with motherboard msi b650 tomahawk wifi but I'm having problem with A1 and A2 it doesnt read my RAM only B1 and B2 its working can you help me somehow
could be the tiny pins on the motherboard are not making good enough contact with the chip, maybe remount it and check the mounting force is even and not too tight or loose
do we need to buy RAM with EXPO ready to be able use EXPO in our motherboard ? how about we use XMP one ? can we enable it also ? and with motherboard, can we run EXPO with any AM5 motherboard ?
EXPO is mostly guaranteed to work on AMD, XMP might work but will be trial and error
@@mikesunboxing thank you for your answer
Wait.... The memory you´re using is 6400MT, and you left it at 6000, why is that ?
if it was on AMD that is the best setting, intel will go much higher
Hey Mike... My 2x16 7200 mts ram running in stock 4800mts is giving me bsod even with simple. Tasks like copying file... Please find me a solution. Cpu is 14600kf and mobo is b760 aorus
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my 1st am5 build refused to post and had solid dram for an hour at default settings. It worked flawless with a single dimm (each of both)on A2, but nothing else. I tried to use only 1 and shutdown install 2nd, clear cmos, bios updates- still no fix and RAM and motherboard went back. 7800x3d, b650e elite x ax ice and trident rgb cl 30 6000 64GB. Confusing
AM5 can be a very unreliable platform at the moment, but it is the first generation so hopefully things will get better
@@mikesunboxing It's just I don't even know if the cpu is the issue, doesn't the board just supplys the lanes... Which I kept
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hello Mike, after updating flashback(all did like in guide) bios on Asrock b650-hdm/m.2, i have lighting 2 circles dram and cpu, mb u have same troubles and know fixed this
Try one stick of ram in slot 2
Hi mike , my X670E-E Won't Boot When I Enable EXPO ?
(Last bios update done)
what RAM do you have? is it EXPO certified and in the right slots
Can I upgrade my Asus vivobook go 15 OLED ryzen 3 DDR 5 onboard ram 8Gb to 16 GB??
depends on the exact model number, but likely
i am on a Z790 Apex Encore with a 14900K and using 48GB (2x24GB) of Corsair Titanium 7200Mhz and cant get it to XMP... its stuck at 4800Mhz.. maybe you can help?
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Any update on this? Did you get it to work?
Bought 32 gb of ddr5 advertised at 5600. It’s been running at 3200 and when i tried to change it to expo or xmp at 5200 or 5600 I get no video output.
What is the exact model of the ram and what processor is it
Crucial pro ddr5 32gb with Ryzen 7 7800x3d
Bought a cpu today the intel 14400f for my msi mortar max wifi board! For the princely sum of 170 pounds!
that sounds pretty good value £205 here
@@mikesunboxingyeah I thought 💭 so as well. But I wouldn’t buy a cpu with less than 10 cores it’s just not worth it!
Haven't found power down yet on mine, and the manual is TERRIBLE - no BIOS setup info at all
does it have the search icon on the home page of the bios?
@@mikesunboxing Found it buried at a deeper level, changed both from auto to enable. Memory fell back to 4800 but ok after reselecting Expo
How To Install DDR5 RAM Into PC & EXPO DOCP XMP BIOS - three alphabets later ... :-) That sticker really messes with the look of the RAM.
Yeah normally they are on the other side?
He say´s "dine" instead of "down" ha ha ho ho hee hee!
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