I have AMD build same problem with the Asus Tuf X670E motherboard first dual (kingstom ram 2×16) channel works on 6000mhz. But if use 4 dual channel it not boot up to windows. Strange things is you can see and hear fans spinning plus all ram have rbg light up but black screen. So issue is not the ram stick but need a firmware update ???
same with amd ... got 7900x and 16x4 ddr5 6000mhz ram sticks .... only able to run ram @3600 mhz with timings 40 40 76 properly ... 3600+ and pc starts crashing and boot slow downs takes upto 70+ seconds sometimes to boot to windows !! what a waste of money
@@moriyokiri3229 I saw Corsair made 48GB memory modules available recently, not sure if they're compatible with AM5 now but they enable 96GB or 192GB memory total, maybe something to look into!
Your conclusion is on point. You want to build your PC then use it. Not tune the parts because of glitches from the manufacturer's end. GREAT POINT. This philosophy should be applied to CPUs and GPUs as well unless you're an enthusiast.
I built a 12900KS with the ProArt Z690 and 128GB of DDR5. As you highlighted in this video, I had continuous issues trying to get the sticks to operate at anything above base clock. The system would refuse to POST and usually required me to remove the other two sticks of RAM before it would even boot again. Every time a new BIOS version was released for that board. I immediately installed it, hoping it would correct the issues, but it never did, to include the very latest version with 13th Gen support. I dropped everything on eBay and built a Threadripper PRO 5975WX with 256GB of ECC DDR4. It will be years before I even attempt to mess with DDR5 again. Not impressed.
Good decision. Especially with the ECC rams. You will have an amazingly stable workstation. The only thing I don’t like about Threadripper builds is the lack of nice mainboards. I found most of them not really looking good.
Wow, at least those of us who tried without knowing all the problems have the consolation of not being alone. Thank you. I tried everything to stabilize Windows 11 running 128GB without XMP on a z790 board. Ok for a few hours, then freeze, freeze, freeze at stock speeds. Latest BIOS. Wasn't a problem with CPU or paste or cooling, just this issue you were talking about four months ago! Cheers!
This guy was really helpful for building a new pc, I had my Asus rog mobo, Corsair DDR5 ram (6000mhz) x 4 stick and intel i9 13900k, 13 gen, turn on XMP, and voila no boot. I even update the mobo BIOS and driver on Windows 11 with no luck. I haven’t tried to take out 2 rams yet, but I am pretty sure this will solve my issue. So anyone who wants to buy 4 sticks, do some research first since overclocking is still not stable with gen 12/13th mobo, unless you are confident with changing Voltages for CPU or memory. Good job mate.
This finally answers the questions concerning "Plug and Play," which has often been called "Plug and Pray." I've been building PCs since the late 1980s; remember MS-DOS and early individual memory chips? None of this is new to me. Problems like this are just a part of building a PC. Sometimes you must learn to live with it or go crazy. Don't worry; just let someone else figure it all out. Hot running DRAM? You can purchase small fan DRAM coolers to solve that.
Thanks for answering why there's no 4 sticks available for DDR5 ram. Creators are going to drag their feet even more in adopting next gen with such a problematic hardware bottleneck.
Yeah DDR5 is still bleeding edge, it's part of the reason why I got a DDR4 board for my build, it's much easier to get high capacity of RAM. I don't think DDR5 will really be worth adopting for about another year.
To be fair, on Intel Ark product specification: i9-12900K : Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s i9-13900K : Up to DDR5 5600 MT/s Which leads me to believe that if you have a 13th gen, you can could run 5200 MT/s or even 5600 MT/s. Chip is out thursday officially. On vas bien voir!
Don't forget to read all the specs. 'Up to' 5600 mt/s on 13th gen. That's with 1 dimm per channel. I can't seem to find the damn chart unfortunately, however speeds decrease with increased ram. As in more sticks. Then you have the stress of single vs dual rank ram, dual rank puts more stress on the memory controller. Having all 4 dimms populated 2dpc, also adds more stress. And if you're talking ddr5, then a typical 32gb of ram in 2x16gb is just fine. It's 1dpc and single rank, there are no dual rank ddr5 at 16gb per stick. 32gb sticks and up are dual rank. Tech Notice here is using 4 sticks, 128gb so 32gb per stick. Worst case scenario, dual rank and 2dpc. The most stress on the memory controller. And of course intel's official speeds drop the more stress you add to the system. Hence the 'up to'. Then there's also the consideration that intel's officially supported speeds don't mean people 'can't' run faster ram, just that it's not guaranteed to run. You run a ddr5 1dpc setup of 2x16gb on 13th gen and you get ddr5 6000 it'll probably work. But if it doesn't, if for some strange reason someone got a low end lottery cpu and it will only function at 5600 mt/s, well that's all intel said it would run. They never promised more. There's no rma for that. I imagine if the chip was severely hosed and could only run 5200 mt/s within intel's specs, the cpu could likely be seen as 'faulty' and rma'd. Intel's already been confirming 13th gen working with ddr5 over 7000 mt/s so maybe they'll update their specs? But then they'd have to guarantee all 13th gen will handle it and that might be another story.
@@Mehecanogeesir Intel official specs aren't the 'max', just the confirmed spec. Many people enable xmp and get well over the 'max' on the intel specs but it's not guaranteed. Xmp is never guaranteed. The ram company can promise you 'ddr5 6400'. The motherboard can promise you 'max memory speeds of 7200+!'. But neither gets to dictate what you get. They can only speak for their component. That stick of ram 'can' run that fast, that motherboard 'can' run ram that fast. Ultimately it's up to the integrated memory controller in the cpu. In this case, intel. Some people could run ddr4 4000, others ddr4 3600. Some people put ddr4 3600 in their system and no boot with xmp enabled. It didn't like it. They had to drop to ddr4 3200 which was still technically more than intel promised for ddr4. But it wasn't what they were hoping for and what they were hoping for was a roll of the dice. Silicon lottery, like a good overclocker vs a poor one. The cpu's are all within manufacturing tolerance, a range of performance. Which is why you could have one cpu with a 'max' top end of 3.9ghz at 1.26v running 4.6 or 4.7ghz oc'd. And another with the same model cpu couldn't get 4.4ghz stable even pushing 1.3v core voltage. They had to settle for 4.2 or 4.3ghz. The reference to 'golden' chips meaning those in the same product line that were just the best tolerances and like a lucky lotto winner got a better version of the same thing out of the box.
I watched all your videos on DDR5 issues as I came across an issue on my own system. I am running an Asus z690e wifi + I9 12900k + 4 sticks of 16GB T-force ram rated for 6400Mhz. I originally built my PC with 32GB but then amazon had a sale on the same ram, so I added another 2 sticks to make it 64gb all together. Upon adding the 2 new sticks, BSOD started happening. What worked for me was bumping up the voltage from 1.35 to 1.37 and changing ram power deliver system from " synced all 4 " to "per dimm" and reducing my clock speeds from 6400 to 6200 . So far I was able to get stable sessions from my pc and I hope it stays this way ....
XMP my Z790 AORA Master motherboard won't boot with 128G (4x32) G.Skill 6000 MHz and XMP enabled. I want to try 5200 with "manual xmp"... But yeah.. Will changing timings manually help? I assume making the timings 'worse' even a small bit may improve compatability?
Hello. I have the same problem as you but on an Asus HERO Z690. After seeing a video of the ASUS ProArt Z790 where they put 4 sticks of RAM at 6000MT/s running without any problem, I have considered the option of buying that motherboard. However, seeing that you're having problems with a Z790, I'm not sure I do anymore. The video in question is titled "128GB DDR5-6000 Kingston FURY BEAST Intel XMP Certified"
I would love to see you give this a second try with a 13900k instead of the 12900ks (keep the same MB). It would tell us if the problem is in the chipset or the CPU. I think people invested in Z690 will not want to buy a Z790 so you would be answering if a new CPU could allow faster RAM speeds.
I'm running a 13900k and a ROG Maximus z690 Formula. I tried running two kits of CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) @ 5200. I can enable XMP but the system was entirely unstable with BSOD after 15-30 minutes of running, as well as the system taking minutes to POST occasionally. I haven't tried manually setting the profile to try and get both kits running together. I can't be bothered putting in that much effort for it. Just gonna hope some people smarter than me resolve it in an easy manner.
I chatted with Asus tech support and the rep said they are working on a BIOS update to address the XMP issue. I asked if I purchase 128 GB of RAM (x4 32GBs) from the QVL that a BIOS update (to come) would resolve the issue and he said it is in the works. He recommended 5600 or 5800 speeds.
Your videos have been very helpful and informative! Yes, G. Skill DDR 5 5600 kept getting BSODs (I thought a DIMM slot was bad) running on ProArt Z690 Creator Wifi mobo with i9-12900K, new build Bios 2004 & GeForce RTX 3090..however, runs great on 2 sticks at 5600. I don't want to have to continually do tweaks to run 4 sticks. Thank you for your update!
So many people reported this type of issue on AM5 and 12/13th gen intel. I plan on buying 2x32GB kit for my next build with Zen 5 or 14th gen intel for now until the situation improves with both ram channels populated. Also if you're a scientist, engineer, or creator you really just need rock-solid stability. Even as an enthusiast I am leaning toward running my next rig at stock settings because AMD is pushing their chips to the limit out of the box. Less than 5% of performance uplift on them isn't worth the instability. With Intel, at least for now you still get gains overclocking but at the cost of a ton of power and cooling increases.
Thanks; just updated my 2x32GB Kingston Fury Beast RGB DDR5-5200 with an extra set on Asus Z690-Plus with i9-12900KF CPU; did not work with the advertised 5200 Mhz. Troubleshooting and found your channel. Already running latest and greatest BIOS. Will keep an eye out here - thank you for the detailed video.
This was surprisingly entertaining to watch someone perform the little tedious details to make a machine function properly. Which is something I do often. Good information. Thank you.
not using 4 sticks but when using 2 sticks of kingston Fury 5600, the XMP did go into windows, done benchmarks right, only once a while crash in MSFS, and don't pass FFT512+ prime 95 over 2 hours at XMP, perfectly fine with 4800MT, ended up the solution, was disabling the dynamic memory boost, now rock solid in prime 95 with XMP
Aesthetics are important to me next to performance. Obviously performance first. That being said I wish Corsair would continue making the fake dimms for DDR5 with all its RGB kits. Vengeance and Doms. A mobo with 2 slots being used out of 4 just doesn’t look good when using RGB ram.
People spend too much time obsessing over the innards of their pc when concerning "keeping up with the Joneses". I remember a time when people just played games without caring so much about what brands were under the hood.
I agree keeping the BIOS up to date is important. It can sometimes have a bad effect if a system is already stable but on new/cutting edge tech it often solves more issues than it causes. As a tip: I found a need on my ASUS boards to also do a clear CMOS and reset to default settings before reconfiguring all the settings again as this had a material impact on performance and stability. Reloading saved profiles or not loading back to defaults would sometimes see strange behaviour.
When you update the bios tbe saved profiles are removed and a cmos is done automatically for you. I learned the hard way and lost all my configs / oc undervolt but figured it back out 😂 and took screenshots of my uief settings
Agree, it wipes the saved profiles when doing an update. I loaded my saved profile from a USB drive I had exported it to assuming it would be fine and found it wasn’t 100%. Reconfiguring the exact same settings after a Clear CMOS manually resulted in a much better stability and slightly more performance.
I got 4*16 DDR5 6000MT CL40...with XMP the PC boot but lots of errors in MEMTEST...I lowered the MT to 5200 and CL to 28-34-34-68 1.350v...and works like a charm no errors 😁
You might need to look at the memory support of your board. 4x16GB might be 1R, (heard it could sometimes be 2R which further lowers the potential clock speeds you can reach) and 2DPC 1R could be rated to well under 6000MHz. The board I got for the 2 sticks of 32GB I got is rated for "1DPC 2R Up to 6000+ MHz" so my 5600MHZ should have a high chance of just working fine. If I got another pair It most likely wont run above 4800 as it's only rated for "2DPC 2R Up to 4800+ MHz" which is what 4x32GB sticks function as.
@@JoshM7 2 STICKS of ram can run @6400MT on my board ...But now after the latest BIOS , I can run 4 sticks @5600MT and 28-30-30-60 1.350V without any errors in memtest
Yeah, this explains a lot. I've got 4 sticks of 16GB 6400 MHz Kingston Fury w/ intel 13900k, can't run XMP at all, even at the slowest 4800 MHz profile. Blue screens everywhere. Forced to run stock @4000 MHz. Sucks from a consumers perspective that these chips are advertised at the higher speeds when they're unable to run at that frequency.
Still can’t do it with an MSI Z790-P and 14700K. I’m gonna prolly return the 2x16 sticks I got cuz I couldn’t get all 4 to run at CL 40 6000MT/s. 4000MT/s was the only stable speed.
Thanks for the in-depth video. I got a Ryzen 7590x setup myself with 2 sets of 2x32GB kits. Even at the stock bios speeds it was very unstable, and I ended up returning my first motherboard because of it. Having the same issue on the next board, I ended up having to de-clock and up the voltage on the RAM manually to get it stable. So far I have 4200MHz at CL32 stable. Far from the advertised 5800MHz on the sticks. I do hope this is all fixable with future updates, and not hardware limitations.
@@ChatGTA345 with the latest bios update, I've been able to get 4800 cl 36 stable, but I had to increase the voltages and go up to 1.4v to the sticks. I haven't spent a whole lot of time fine tuning the timings, but higher MHz resulted in boot loops. Hopefully things keeps getting better with the updates.
@@insertnamehere4419 I think the issue in this thread is to be able to run 128GB (4 x 32GB) configuration. It's not currently possible to run any kit available on the market above 4,800
its still early adopter of ddr5, but the headaches and the pricing is why i went ddr4. i belive mr tech notice also mentioned for creation amount is greater than speed. i might be wrong.
love the info on ram!b With so many brands out there it is so easy to over spend! All this info is helping me see how much I need, what speeds and what I don't need! Thank you!
I got a 7800X3D. I went with 4 sticks of T-Create 6000MTs CL30. I get weekly blue screens. Surprisingly stable since it's only weekly. I can work hardcore creator workloads for entire days straight with no issues, but once a week I'll be randomly hit by a blue screen. I've ruled out every other possible cause, and none of the RAM sticks are bad. This is my first time going with 4 sticks and now I wish I went with 2 lol, but I am experimenting now with trying to get it fully stable since it's been surprisingly stable otherwise. I've rolled by speeds to 5600MTs to keep the timings, since AMD seems to respond better to low timings; as opposed to higher speeds. If that doesn't work I'll try 5200MTs at CL30. If that doesn't work maybe I'll try CL34; basically copying the 2x32 spec from teamgroup. If that doesn't work I'll try 5600MT at CL40, or take half the sticks out and call it another learning mistake in PC building lol...like when I built my first & only dual-GPU PC in 2012.
13:32 It would have booted anyway. I'm not sure if you tried because of editing and not live, but I just put 6000 in my 12700K rig, and it did that same thing down to the letter. But when it said it was reset and you pulled that channel of RAM, I did not. Instead, I went into BIOS and turned on XMP (6000), rebooted like normal, and it worked like a charm. Has been running solid ever since. Not sure what that corruption message was, but all it did was reset the BIOS back to the factory, and then I just turned on XMP, and that was it.
For some reason, I couldn’t change anything in my Gigabyte Bios. But after I unplugged the battery for 20 seconds, with no power cable and turned on my PC with all 4 Ram blocks. It worked perfectly 🙂
This isn't limited to DDR5, or Intel, XMP always was dodgy with more than 2 sticks... It's a synchronization issue... Sometimes you can get around it by shuffling the sticks around, sometimes you can relax the timings manually, sometimes you can lower the frequency by 100-200MHz and then it works fine. Try your XMP 6000 setting, but manually set the clock to 5800 MHz instead.
Indeed, I am having the same issue with 4x32GB in an AM4 B550 board with BIOS from August 2023. Runs at 2133, won't post at 3200 (the one XMP profile). I haven't tried anything in between yet. The RAM is Corsair CMK64GX4M2E3200C16. If you dig, 2133 appears to be the highest frequency at which it is guaranteed to run. It's a scam. They advertise the memory as 3200, include that number in the article number and what it actually means is "if you have no more than two DIMMs, of not too high capacity/density, with a bit of luck you may be able to overclock it to 3200 MHz and make it to a desktop without crashing".
i agreed with all your comment, 4x DIMM won't work stable for long .. although you have pass all memory test doesn't mean you can pass with your daily work. for my case, i had to left it with 2x DIMM and set myself limit
The 4x DDR5 RAM problem of the Asus Prime Z690-A was solved with Bios update 2305. Have all my G Skill Tridenz Z5 5600Mhz installed & tested with MemTest86 V10.2 free (USB). Before it was not possible for me 4x DDR 5 with 5600Mhz stable to run. am glad that it now runs. Great video THANKS
I'm running the ProArt Z690 board with latest BIOS 2305 and 4 sticks of G Skill Trident Z5 5600Mhz with timings of 30-36-36-89 with no luck. I can get it to *almost* pass memtest with it running at 5000 40-40-40-79 but there's always one or two memory errors that show up. Still doing various tests to see if I can make it stable at all.
@@seephor I own 2x the following set: G.Skill TridentZ Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 5600, CL28, (2x16GB), F5-5600J2834F16GX2-TZ5RK. Works on my Asus Prime Z690 without problems. Whether the RAM in the XMP (all over 4800mhz is oc) works with your CPU is of course dependent on the CPU, not just the RAM.
Advertised speeds are for the memory it doesn't guarantee that the mem mb and proc combo can reach that speed. Hint: look at the intel specs for its processor mem speed.
Thanks so much for this video. I had given up on enabling XMP with my 4x16gb 5200mhz DDR kingston fury ram. I have a msi z690-a pro with a 12700k cpu and updating the bios finally posted. I haven't run any benchmarks but it posts and does everyday tasks just fine.
I bought my X570 PC before I was aware of the limitations with regard to populating all memory slots. I should have bought 2 16gb sticks. The memory controller has a tough time with maintaining a 1 to 1 "Infinity Fabric" (1,800Mhz) with all memory slots populated. 16gb sticks were somewhat rare and expensive at the time. I bought 4 sticks of 3,600Mhz c14, 15, 15, 15, 35 (Samsung B-die), and though I could get all 4 sticks to operate at their XMP profile, I had WHEA errors. They were incredibly intermittent- sometimes going for days without a reboot even though correctable WHEA errors were happening in the background all the time. This lasted through several different video cards, and 2 CPU's- as I had a 5600x prior to the 5900x. Recently, I bought a new GPU, and while changing it my water pump died. While replacing the water pump, and the GPU, I accidentally ripped the 5900X out of its socket without releasing the bar- ouch. This happened because of how damn well the Thermal Grizzly pink thermal paste was adhering between the CPU, and waterblock. While simply trying to remove the water block, it pulled off the CPU with it. However, there was no damage, it just cleaned the pins, even scraping off a thin layer of gold plating(I wonder where that went). I crossed my fingers and reinstalled everything, and thankfully it posted, and booted just fine, and low and behold- no more WHEA errors.. It's been almost two weeks, now. What the hell? Was one of my pins dirty, and not getting good contact?! Now I'm afraid to change anything.
Fantastic video, thank you. I am having the exact same issues with my new computer. Just bought the Corsair Vengeance i8100 that came with 2 sticks of 32Gb Dominator DDR5 ram clocked at 6,000MHz. Tried installing 2 more 32 Gb sticks of the exact same ram. Same speed, size same everything and the new computer would not go more than 3 min. without a crash and need to reboot. I even got 2 blue screens and total system lock up in the first hour. When I pulled the new ram back out, everything started working great. Also, when I removed the added RAM, it was very hot to the touch. About to watch your update video. Hope it has a solution to the problem.
Be warned if you update your bios you lose your old bios settings. So record your settings before updating! Also just buy larger 2x capacity sticks. Also if you buy a k series cpu then you fine tune that so there's no reason not to fine tune your ram. Try loosening the timings (if it won't boot) the last tip I'll give is don't buy dd5 in the 1st place 🤣🤣
As far i remember from the 12th gen cpu reviews, tt's not a matter of ram or either motherboards. It's the cpu that doesn't support 4 stick of memory in xmp mode
You’re not doing the correct settings in the BIOS. After you set the XMP profile the next step is to go down to DRAM VDD Voltage and set it the voltage to 1.3. Then change DRAM VDDQ Voltage to 1.3. THE FINAL STEP!!! Go to “AI Tweaker Advance Memory Voltages and go down to PMIC Voltages and change it to “By Per PMIC” save and exit. Restart, it may take some time, and then it will work.
I think we need to see you build the ASUS Z790 Creator mobo, with the I9-13900k CPU and test 128gb DDR5 with that. If it works that's what I'm buying!! 😀
I’m going to check this out in some time. Just made my first build with the z690 intel1700 ddr5. And I had already an issue with the Bios😄 It was the compatibility from 12 gen 13 gen. Gladly my friend had the 12 gen CPU and quickly fixed the issue. But I’m interested in the Ram. As a first build just decided to go with the new DDR5 and PCI 5.0 upgrade for future upgrades. And I see now still we have a lot of Bug’s to Fix. But thanks for your videos, they help really. Especially for as me from 13 years coming back in the PC world. I’m like a Stone Age guy😂
Did you get it working 💪? I just did two z590 builds with MSI. Now I have the Asus ROG E and Intel 13 i9...bought 4 sticks of DDR5 and just saw this....did I make a mistake?
Buy your memory based on your own requirements (i.e. understand your workloads). If you need capacity (especially the max supported by the platform) you will not get JEDEC defined standard speeds. If your workloads are latency sensitive you should target a single stick per memory channel. Ranks might also play a role here, but it will depend on platform. Each generation of CPUs will come with improved memory controllers. Intel 12th gen can do 4800, AMD 7000 series can do 5200, rumors suggests that Intel 13th gen could do 5600. This will probably slowly go towards 7200 (but will take years).
wow, thats a very important info. I was gonna use 4x 32gb ddr5 ram on my new setup. Really! to be honest i just waiting you to create i9 13900K and rtx4090 with DDR5 performance video for creator works. I really like your content
Honestly, for people who need 128GB, I think going with a DDR4 board is going to be better. It's possible to get 4000mhz CL 18 4x32GB DDR4, they actually sell kits like that work in Gear 1 and will probably perform better than 4x32 GB 4800mhz CL 40 DDR5 in Gear 2 will.
Hey! so ive got a 12900k, 64GB DDR5 6400Mhz, Z690 Aorus Master MB, 3080 ti aorus master and this crashes on their own xmp profile i cant even boot and i get a memory code on the motherboard all my games stutter when im streaming in 1080p and playing in 4k max on apex and this is kind of ridiculous because i bought almost the best everything and nothing is working right in either windows 10 or 11
Man I just got 2 more sticks of ram to put in my pc and googled why I couldn't enable xmp and found this video. No one else is talking about this. I really hope it is something that can be fixed in future bios.
Depends on the bios. Some versions of bios wont allow it properly due to new updates for newer cpus for the MB. I found with mine, i had to manually set the ddr voktage up .2 volts when using XMP. Older bios, xmp will work without voltage change. Something to do with bios uogrades and cpu compatibilities.
On my AMD 7950 running 4 sticks of ram at 5600 MT/S my system bullet stable at this specs but with 4 stick of ram 64 GB total 6000 Mhz NOT STABLE the system boots up but not stable tested with Memtes 86+ , AIDA 64 Stability test , OCCT Test Not stable I tried every method not stable at all none of them worked for 4 sticks of ram ! However for 2 sticks of ram I can go 6200 MT/S stable with all tests but for 6400 Mhz system fails immediately to initialize boot up sequence ! Rams kit Kingston Fury Renegade 6000 MT/S with 3 XMP profile to set, 4800, 5600, 6000
I was looking for 4 x 16GB or 4 x 32GB kits and there's literally nothing. That the motherboards are advertised as 128GB capable with RAM kits on QVL is hugely misleading if not downright false advertising. How does one get 128GB @ 6,000mhz DDR5 today? You can't. Interesting video!!
@@theTechNotice I have a set of 2x16 GB 5200mhz and 2x16 4800 MHz (ddr5) on a MSI pro z690-a and a i5 12600k, it runs on 4800 just fine, I'm considering about to change my 4800 set to a 2x32gb 5200mhz set, but will I obtain any benefit to the larger amount of ram in davinci resolve studio? I film in 4K...
Yo guys, I've managed to boot without any issues with 4x8G 5200Mts Kingston Fury at 4400Mhz Settings: XMP: Manual Freq: 4400Mhz System Agent: 1.35v VDD: 1.25v VDDQ: 1.25v Under advanced set TXVDDQ: 1.25v Memory controller: 1.25v I'm using 13700k with Z690-a prime Cheers
I had no issues until today when booting up my system it simply didn’t power up! I removed the memory (G.Skill 4 16GB) sticks on my Asus Prime Z690-A Mobo and the CMOS battery. I installed them back after 5 minutes and the BIOS screen popped up, made adjustments mentioned above (XMP 1) and saved it and still an issue. The only way it will boot up properly to windows is by removing the memory sticks but one. I didn’t have this issue before and it ran beautifully with 64GB of ram until today.
I bought a new build with a Tuf z790 plus wifi motherboard, I7 13700k cpu, Gigabyte RTX 4080 OC and a 2x16 32gb Corsair Dominator 6200mhz ddr5 kit. Every time I tried to enable the XMP profile the system would fail post. I found a forum thread that mentioned slot population, I removed the dimms and populated the 2 dimms in slots 2 and 4, BANG! XMP working at 6200mhz, no issues at all.
@@n4ul17o yes but apparently thats just DDR5, not sure if correct but the way I understand it is that it needs the extra latency because of how fast it is.
Do you plan to test the crucial 128Gb, which have default speed @4800? It's also listed at the Pugets recommended system for Davinci resolve. Thank you for all the info, keep up the excellent work!
Yes, we need more videos addressing this issue! I pulled my hair out with 128 GB DDR5 with my 7950x build. I spent over 40 hours debugging to get to the point where I learned about MemTest86, memory controllers, DIMMs, and ranks. Eventually, I found out from testing I could only get 64 GB to be stable. I see from comments that this happens with every early generation and that you should know better, but from an average consumer perspective, I felt misled by these motherboards saying that they can support 128 GB DDR5. Also, going off your car and work analogy, I don't feel comfortable tuning the voltage and timings. Had I known better, I would have gone with a different purchasing decision, such as DDR4 with a 12th gen Intel. Now I am left at a loss with an extra 2 x 32 GB set of expensive DDR5 ram.
I have similar config and also struggle with making the DDR5 RAM work for about 3 days. Have you tried enabling D.O.C.P 1/XMP/EXPO and at the same time reducing the frequency? I have two dual kits of 6400 CL32 G.Skill Trident-Z RAM and I managed to make it POST with 2 sticks@6000 MHz and with 4 sticks@4800 MHz. Now running the stress and stability tests, 4*32GB@4000 MHz with D.O.C.P. 1 seems to be OK but let's see :)
Same issue I feel this should be a lawsuit at this point. I made my decision verifying the QVL and going for a workstation build, on to find out my decisions where informed by misleading statements.
Ditto. I hope we can get that tested when the 13th gen and Z790 come out next week. Anyone know if there's been any announcements for release dates for 64GB DDR5 sticks?
Isit a 4 sticks kit? I am running two kits of 2x48 kits because corsair dominator doesn't come with 196 gb of ram and when I XMP I have to keep the voltage at 1.41 and can't go beyond 4800 MT/S. any solutions?
Hello. Do you think the DDR5 would make a big difference in comparison with DDR4 using i7 13th g. and Z790 motherboard for music and video production? Worth it?
Nope mine would not write correctly with nearly 4000 errors with 4 sticks in system. Wish I would have know this before buying 4 sticks of DDR5 memory. Memory test sent: sent RRWWGET but read RRWWDET errors out the ying yang. 2 sticks of 7200 runs the memory test great, no issues.
I'd love to take the plastic off my ram sticks, and put some all metal heatsinks with optimized topology for moving air, and then just slap a 4 slot ram cooler on top. I bet we could really push the limits then.
i saw similar issue earlier on other video called "Be Careful Before Buying Intel 12th Generation Memory(i might be wrong)" on a JayzTwoCents channel, he also tried to boot with 4 sticks at full speed and motherboard failed that. Also i read some "theory" in discussions about that, and it seems caused by low count of PCB layers/trackways. Actual/current boards only have about 8+ layers(i might be wrong), so there a required more "thicker" boards with more layers/trackways, and i hope that will become with 700-chipsets. That's why i decided to skip DDR5 on the 600-chipsets until 700 come out, and save some money by pairing 12700k with DDR4 board and RAM that i already have.
from what i have heard lately, it is about how 32GB+ sticks are DUAL channels which max out the bandwidth. anything else "overloads" it and really doesnt make much of a difference. i am completely new to the DDR5 quirks but it makes sense. i found that corsair currently sells a 4 stick kit BUT its only 8GB or 16GB but they are only single channel sticks. from how it was explained in a video, a single channel is writing or read only. dual channel can read and write at the same time. there seems to only be 4 channels for a 4 DIMM mobo. the only way that a lay man like me can think of is that mobo will have to have 8 channels for 4 DIMMs. however, i think that would impact the cpu and mobo development quite a bit. hope this might make a little sense. PS- single channel, the ram chips are on ONE side of the stick. dual channel has ram chips on BOTH sides.
Even after all this time , ram, cpu and boards manufacturers really need to solve this with 4 sticks!!! 4 sticks! 128 Gig still will not run at 5000 or 6000 very disappointing
I have the same specs as you have, the exact same Kingston Ram, even the same GPU. I only have a different CPU, an AMD Ryzen 9, 7900x cpu running on an ASUS Prime B650-Plus. According to specs this board also supports that ram, according to the QVL. I have not been messing in the bios at first. Tried 64GB, ran perfectly fine at 4,800Mt/s. Then added the other two dimms for the total of 128GB, but my pc wouldn't boot. I tried turning on Memory Training, but I simply could not get into the bios. Only when removing two dimms it worked again. For me it's not even needed 4 dimms running at 4,800Mt/s. If all of them ran at 3,600Mt/s it would be fine as well, but also this combination is not working. And, I did upgraded the bios a few days ago. It could probably be the motherboard, which is not the most expensive board, but one could assume if the specs say, it can handle 128GB, it should be able to handle 128GB. So currently I have 2 (expensive) Kingston dimms lying here collecting dust. Any suggestion how I get 4 of them working? 128GB on 3,600Mt/s is faster than 64GB on 4,800Mt/s. It did work for a while, but I noticed after the bios update (when all settings are reset, and of course the 4 dimms were set back to auto, the pc refused to boot again), that after removing the 2 extra sticks my video editor is working a lot slower. I do a lot of video effects, encoding on 4K video material. Any suggestions on how to get this working?
I was able to get 4 chips to work on my pc a little more stable by going into AI Tweaker\Advanced Memory Voltages and under PMIC Voltage, you select By per PMIC
I actually bought 4 sticks of that exact Kingston Fury DDR5 RAM up to 128 GB but haven’t built it into a system yet. Are you saying that without XMP (at base speed) it will be stable but it just can’t be overclocked? If so, that’s not the biggest deal for me since my workflow just requires the capacity to hold lots of music samples. I wasn’t planning to overclock. Are the sticks stable without XMP?
This is a nightmare. I was running 2x32Gb for some months, running perfectly at 6000Mhz. And now i saved some extra money and got 2 other identical blades. Vengeance 32x2 (64Gb) CL32-6400Mhz. Updated my Msi Bios to latest (It's a AM5 system) 7950x. The full Ram (128Gb) identified at bios, but after the first boot, never POST again. So i had to PHYSICALLY remove 2 blades to be able to see the Bios again, down the speed to 4000Ghz and now they finally Boot. Also the Boot is Soooooo SLOW takes ages to start loading windows. When it start loading it it loads fast.
This video came at a good time for me, we're just looking at the 64GB RAM deals these days and I was wondering why there isn't a set of 4 sticks. I even still wonder if it makes much of a difference in performance if you get RAM faster than 5600MHz with Intel CPU, specifically the 13th gen.Thanks for the info 🙂🍺🍺🍺
AMD 7950x here with 128GB (4x32) G.Skill Flare X5 on ASRock x670e, I can occasionally boot with AMD EXPO for my ram but have experienced memory corruption (confirmed with memtest) so I disabled it. The extra speed would be nice but the capacity is essential for me.
Geez, nobody from big league tested 4 sticks at same time. Disapointed. I very much appreciate you doing this testing. I will get 2x32gb even if I don't use it now, but down line I don't wanna upgrade RAM. Now I know why on some micro ATX boards there are only 2 slots for RAM.
@@Waldherz the overclocking boards as asus rog apex & aorus tachyon & evga dark kingkin and more just come with 2 sticks ram slot for the full size atx board. why just 2 slot ram for these highend boards?? google can tell u everything. google bro google
@@SUTH_33 ....Still has nothing to do with DDR5 specificaly. I dont need google. I own pretty much every single Asus, MSI and Gigabyte high end motherboard that was ever sold.
I have to say, that I've never used XMP on maximum memory levels, it is almost impossible, mostly because crosstalk on memory lanes leading to the CPU. And on servers, they have a table to refer when using large amount of memory sticks. I also have an old PC here that I use as a server, X99 board, 8 sticks, 4 channels, originally 3000MHz, I had to lower them to 1866MHz using 8x8GB. (admittedly using 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix Elite @2333MHz, and 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix @3000MHz, but it never ran around 2333MHz in the first place)
If it's due to crosstalk, wouldn't it be solved by using two-stick 96GB setups (2 x 48GB) instead ones with four sticks at 128GB (4 x 32GB)? If so, I guess I'll just go with the two-stick setup for my next purchase, since the extra 32GB of RAM isn't strictly necessarily for my current work.
@@VVayVVard Most Motherboards don't support full sized ultra-dense DIMMS. I don't think it is possible to go beyond 32GB DIMMS on most commercial motherboards. Maybe on Enterprise.
@@ryche.rising Recently Asus announced support for 96GB and 192GB kits via a BIOS update (and MSI also for some motherboard types) so I thought I'd just buy a compatible one along with the RAM.
Here's an update/explanation to this video: ruclips.net/video/wzVZgTP2204/видео.html
I have AMD build same problem with the Asus Tuf X670E motherboard first dual (kingstom ram 2×16) channel works on 6000mhz. But if use 4 dual channel it not boot up to windows. Strange things is you can see and hear fans spinning plus all ram have rbg light up but black screen. So issue is not the ram stick but need a firmware update ???
Thank you for being one of only a few RUclipsrs to talk about this issue. If feel like creators have been left out by the manufacturers for this gen 😕
same with amd ... got 7900x and 16x4 ddr5 6000mhz ram sticks .... only able to run ram @3600 mhz with timings 40 40 76 properly ... 3600+ and pc starts crashing and boot slow downs takes upto 70+ seconds sometimes to boot to windows !! what a waste of money
The clock speed of the ram is memory controller/ motherboard dependant. 2 will always clock faster than 4 though. On a like for like comparison.
i'm crying something please think of the "creators"
@@moriyokiri3229 I saw Corsair made 48GB memory modules available recently, not sure if they're compatible with AM5 now but they enable 96GB or 192GB memory total, maybe something to look into!
Your conclusion is on point. You want to build your PC then use it. Not tune the parts because of glitches from the manufacturer's end. GREAT POINT. This philosophy should be applied to CPUs and GPUs as well unless you're an enthusiast.
OMG. I was WAITING for someone to mention this! Am so glad that you did.
I built a 12900KS with the ProArt Z690 and 128GB of DDR5. As you highlighted in this video, I had continuous issues trying to get the sticks to operate at anything above base clock. The system would refuse to POST and usually required me to remove the other two sticks of RAM before it would even boot again. Every time a new BIOS version was released for that board. I immediately installed it, hoping it would correct the issues, but it never did, to include the very latest version with 13th Gen support. I dropped everything on eBay and built a Threadripper PRO 5975WX with 256GB of ECC DDR4. It will be years before I even attempt to mess with DDR5 again. Not impressed.
Good decision. Especially with the ECC rams. You will have an amazingly stable workstation. The only thing I don’t like about Threadripper builds is the lack of nice mainboards. I found most of them not really looking good.
@Ms Moon Boo done mate. I was a little too fast. sorry for that :-)
@Ms Moon Boo I also deleted the other comment.
why are you so rich?
i mean..... the reason is due to ddr5 using 4 seperate channels on 2 sticks.. 4 sticks = 8octo if single sided.
Wow, at least those of us who tried without knowing all the problems have the consolation of not being alone. Thank you. I tried everything to stabilize Windows 11 running 128GB without XMP on a z790 board. Ok for a few hours, then freeze, freeze, freeze at stock speeds. Latest BIOS. Wasn't a problem with CPU or paste or cooling, just this issue you were talking about four months ago! Cheers!
It's the imc of the CPU, most likely :)
@@theTechNotice Just noticed Asus posted a new BIOS version for Maximus z790 Hero. Like a moth to a flame...
win 11 is a mess but one thing worked better and that was that damn DOCP😮💨but i leave it stock and using w10 whatever it´s not worth it💁♂
This guy was really helpful for building a new pc, I had my Asus rog mobo, Corsair DDR5 ram (6000mhz) x 4 stick and intel i9 13900k, 13 gen, turn on XMP, and voila no boot. I even update the mobo BIOS and driver on Windows 11 with no luck.
I haven’t tried to take out 2 rams yet, but I am pretty sure this will solve my issue. So anyone who wants to buy 4 sticks, do some research first since overclocking is still not stable with gen 12/13th mobo, unless you are confident with changing Voltages for CPU or memory. Good job mate.
This finally answers the questions concerning "Plug and Play," which has often been called "Plug and Pray." I've been building PCs since the late 1980s; remember MS-DOS and early individual memory chips? None of this is new to me. Problems like this are just a part of building a PC. Sometimes you must learn to live with it or go crazy. Don't worry; just let someone else figure it all out. Hot running DRAM? You can purchase small fan DRAM coolers to solve that.
Thanks for answering why there's no 4 sticks available for DDR5 ram. Creators are going to drag their feet even more in adopting next gen with such a problematic hardware bottleneck.
Yeah DDR5 is still bleeding edge, it's part of the reason why I got a DDR4 board for my build, it's much easier to get high capacity of RAM. I don't think DDR5 will really be worth adopting for about another year.
@@MistyKathrine Yup 64 GB ram
@@MistyKathrine maybe two years
@@JoeWayne84 Wouldn't surprise me.
@@MistyKathrine There's an easy fix; It's go AMD.
To be fair, on Intel Ark product specification:
i9-12900K : Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s
i9-13900K : Up to DDR5 5600 MT/s
Which leads me to believe that if you have a 13th gen, you can could run 5200 MT/s or even 5600 MT/s. Chip is out thursday officially. On vas bien voir!
ur right, i just got an i9 13thgen , and my ram finally runs at 5600mhz 64gb without any problem
@@rekenops8651 Four sticks?
So how are people getting their systems to work with higher clocks?
Don't forget to read all the specs. 'Up to' 5600 mt/s on 13th gen. That's with 1 dimm per channel. I can't seem to find the damn chart unfortunately, however speeds decrease with increased ram. As in more sticks. Then you have the stress of single vs dual rank ram, dual rank puts more stress on the memory controller. Having all 4 dimms populated 2dpc, also adds more stress. And if you're talking ddr5, then a typical 32gb of ram in 2x16gb is just fine. It's 1dpc and single rank, there are no dual rank ddr5 at 16gb per stick. 32gb sticks and up are dual rank. Tech Notice here is using 4 sticks, 128gb so 32gb per stick. Worst case scenario, dual rank and 2dpc. The most stress on the memory controller.
And of course intel's official speeds drop the more stress you add to the system. Hence the 'up to'. Then there's also the consideration that intel's officially supported speeds don't mean people 'can't' run faster ram, just that it's not guaranteed to run. You run a ddr5 1dpc setup of 2x16gb on 13th gen and you get ddr5 6000 it'll probably work. But if it doesn't, if for some strange reason someone got a low end lottery cpu and it will only function at 5600 mt/s, well that's all intel said it would run. They never promised more. There's no rma for that. I imagine if the chip was severely hosed and could only run 5200 mt/s within intel's specs, the cpu could likely be seen as 'faulty' and rma'd. Intel's already been confirming 13th gen working with ddr5 over 7000 mt/s so maybe they'll update their specs? But then they'd have to guarantee all 13th gen will handle it and that might be another story.
@@Mehecanogeesir Intel official specs aren't the 'max', just the confirmed spec. Many people enable xmp and get well over the 'max' on the intel specs but it's not guaranteed. Xmp is never guaranteed. The ram company can promise you 'ddr5 6400'. The motherboard can promise you 'max memory speeds of 7200+!'. But neither gets to dictate what you get. They can only speak for their component. That stick of ram 'can' run that fast, that motherboard 'can' run ram that fast. Ultimately it's up to the integrated memory controller in the cpu. In this case, intel. Some people could run ddr4 4000, others ddr4 3600. Some people put ddr4 3600 in their system and no boot with xmp enabled. It didn't like it. They had to drop to ddr4 3200 which was still technically more than intel promised for ddr4. But it wasn't what they were hoping for and what they were hoping for was a roll of the dice. Silicon lottery, like a good overclocker vs a poor one. The cpu's are all within manufacturing tolerance, a range of performance. Which is why you could have one cpu with a 'max' top end of 3.9ghz at 1.26v running 4.6 or 4.7ghz oc'd. And another with the same model cpu couldn't get 4.4ghz stable even pushing 1.3v core voltage. They had to settle for 4.2 or 4.3ghz. The reference to 'golden' chips meaning those in the same product line that were just the best tolerances and like a lucky lotto winner got a better version of the same thing out of the box.
I watched all your videos on DDR5 issues as I came across an issue on my own system. I am running an Asus z690e wifi + I9 12900k + 4 sticks of 16GB T-force ram rated for 6400Mhz. I originally built my PC with 32GB but then amazon had a sale on the same ram, so I added another 2 sticks to make it 64gb all together. Upon adding the 2 new sticks, BSOD started happening. What worked for me was bumping up the voltage from 1.35 to 1.37 and changing ram power deliver system from " synced all 4 " to "per dimm" and reducing my clock speeds from 6400 to 6200 . So far I was able to get stable sessions from my pc and I hope it stays this way ....
XMP my Z790 AORA Master motherboard won't boot with 128G (4x32) G.Skill 6000 MHz and XMP enabled.
I want to try 5200 with "manual xmp"... But yeah..
Will changing timings manually help? I assume making the timings 'worse' even a small bit may improve compatability?
Hello. I have the same problem as you but on an Asus HERO Z690. After seeing a video of the ASUS ProArt Z790 where they put 4 sticks of RAM at 6000MT/s running without any problem, I have considered the option of buying that motherboard. However, seeing that you're having problems with a Z790, I'm not sure I do anymore. The video in question is titled "128GB DDR5-6000 Kingston FURY BEAST Intel XMP Certified"
@@n4ul17o If it's a kit of 128, it should work fine. Combining 2 kits probably wont though, like mine.
having same problem, withn Z790, 3 G.skills DDR5 sticks 16,32 and 16GB (slots used 12,4) not able to enable XMP. currently running at speed of 4000MHZ
I would love to see you give this a second try with a 13900k instead of the 12900ks (keep the same MB). It would tell us if the problem is in the chipset or the CPU.
I think people invested in Z690 will not want to buy a Z790 so you would be answering if a new CPU could allow faster RAM speeds.
13th gen + z790 still can't enable the xmp with 4 sticks
I'm running a 13900k and a ROG Maximus z690 Formula. I tried running two kits of CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB (2 x 32GB) @ 5200. I can enable XMP but the system was entirely unstable with BSOD after 15-30 minutes of running, as well as the system taking minutes to POST occasionally. I haven't tried manually setting the profile to try and get both kits running together. I can't be bothered putting in that much effort for it. Just gonna hope some people smarter than me resolve it in an easy manner.
@@waifuism6720 have you tried upping the voltages? VDD & VDDQ
@@SUTH_33 I get at least xmp2 with 5000 with 4x 5200 Corsairs running stable. 5066 runs with crashes, 5200 doesn't boot....
I chatted with Asus tech support and the rep said they are working on a BIOS update to address the XMP issue. I asked if I purchase 128 GB of RAM (x4 32GBs) from the QVL that a BIOS update (to come) would resolve the issue and he said it is in the works. He recommended 5600 or 5800 speeds.
Like you said, ram, cpu and boards manufacturers really need to solve this with 4 sticks!!!
ya two cents of copper to make t topology
Looks like it's not just an AMD problem for 4 sticks of RAM 128gb. Thanks for this
Your videos have been very helpful and informative! Yes, G. Skill DDR 5 5600 kept getting BSODs (I thought a DIMM slot was bad) running on ProArt Z690 Creator Wifi mobo with i9-12900K, new build Bios 2004 & GeForce RTX 3090..however, runs great on 2 sticks at 5600. I don't want to have to continually do tweaks to run 4 sticks. Thank you for your update!
So many people reported this type of issue on AM5 and 12/13th gen intel. I plan on buying 2x32GB kit for my next build with Zen 5 or 14th gen intel for now until the situation improves with both ram channels populated.
Also if you're a scientist, engineer, or creator you really just need rock-solid stability. Even as an enthusiast I am leaning toward running my next rig at stock settings because AMD is pushing their chips to the limit out of the box. Less than 5% of performance uplift on them isn't worth the instability. With Intel, at least for now you still get gains overclocking but at the cost of a ton of power and cooling increases.
I'm waiting for you to test this on 13 gen, very interested in upgrading next spring and thanks for your work!
13th? same. xmp can't works with 4 sticks of ram
@@SUTH_33 AHOC youtube channel got 4 sticks of 16GB sticks running at 6000mhz
Thanks; just updated my 2x32GB Kingston Fury Beast RGB DDR5-5200 with an extra set on Asus Z690-Plus with i9-12900KF CPU; did not work with the advertised 5200 Mhz. Troubleshooting and found your channel. Already running latest and greatest BIOS. Will keep an eye out here - thank you for the detailed video.
This was surprisingly entertaining to watch someone perform the little tedious details to make a machine function properly. Which is something I do often. Good information. Thank you.
not using 4 sticks but when using 2 sticks of kingston Fury 5600, the XMP did go into windows, done benchmarks right, only once a while crash in MSFS, and don't pass FFT512+ prime 95 over 2 hours at XMP, perfectly fine with 4800MT, ended up the solution, was disabling the dynamic memory boost, now rock solid in prime 95 with XMP
Aesthetics are important to me next to performance. Obviously performance first. That being said I wish Corsair would continue making the fake dimms for DDR5 with all its RGB kits. Vengeance and Doms. A mobo with 2 slots being used out of 4 just doesn’t look good when using RGB ram.
People spend too much time obsessing over the innards of their pc when concerning "keeping up with the Joneses".
I remember a time when people just played games without caring so much about what brands were under the hood.
@@whathappenedtoearth6495 ok grandpa
@@juanpineda1446 I'm 39, not a grandpa by any stretch.
@@whathappenedtoearth6495sound like one
I agree keeping the BIOS up to date is important. It can sometimes have a bad effect if a system is already stable but on new/cutting edge tech it often solves more issues than it causes. As a tip: I found a need on my ASUS boards to also do a clear CMOS and reset to default settings before reconfiguring all the settings again as this had a material impact on performance and stability. Reloading saved profiles or not loading back to defaults would sometimes see strange behaviour.
When you update the bios tbe saved profiles are removed and a cmos is done automatically for you.
I learned the hard way and lost all my configs / oc undervolt but figured it back out 😂 and took screenshots of my uief settings
Agree, it wipes the saved profiles when doing an update. I loaded my saved profile from a USB drive I had exported it to assuming it would be fine and found it wasn’t 100%. Reconfiguring the exact same settings after a Clear CMOS manually resulted in a much better stability and slightly more performance.
@@Matty-rn5gt yep this is exactly what happened with me so I just took screenshots of my settings
I got 4*16 DDR5 6000MT CL40...with XMP the PC boot but lots of errors in MEMTEST...I lowered the MT to 5200 and CL to 28-34-34-68 1.350v...and works like a charm no errors 😁
Which brand/sku memory did you use? Thx
@@EvenHarmonics Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MT CL40
You might need to look at the memory support of your board. 4x16GB might be 1R, (heard it could sometimes be 2R which further lowers the potential clock speeds you can reach) and 2DPC 1R could be rated to well under 6000MHz.
The board I got for the 2 sticks of 32GB I got is rated for "1DPC 2R Up to 6000+ MHz" so my 5600MHZ should have a high chance of just working fine. If I got another pair It most likely wont run above 4800 as it's only rated for "2DPC 2R Up to 4800+ MHz" which is what 4x32GB sticks function as.
@@JoshM7 2 STICKS of ram can run @6400MT on my board ...But now after the latest BIOS , I can run 4 sticks @5600MT and 28-30-30-60 1.350V without any errors in memtest
28 34 34? are u sure?
What I love in the Windows ecosystem is a plenty option of customization and upgrades which is similar to car or motorcycle modification.
Yeah, this explains a lot. I've got 4 sticks of 16GB 6400 MHz Kingston Fury w/ intel 13900k, can't run XMP at all, even at the slowest 4800 MHz profile. Blue screens everywhere. Forced to run stock @4000 MHz. Sucks from a consumers perspective that these chips are advertised at the higher speeds when they're unable to run at that frequency.
Still can’t do it with an MSI Z790-P and 14700K. I’m gonna prolly return the 2x16 sticks I got cuz I couldn’t get all 4 to run at CL 40 6000MT/s. 4000MT/s was the only stable speed.
Thanks for the in-depth video. I got a Ryzen 7590x setup myself with 2 sets of 2x32GB kits. Even at the stock bios speeds it was very unstable, and I ended up returning my first motherboard because of it. Having the same issue on the next board, I ended up having to de-clock and up the voltage on the RAM manually to get it stable. So far I have 4200MHz at CL32 stable. Far from the advertised 5800MHz on the sticks. I do hope this is all fixable with future updates, and not hardware limitations.
Not even at 4800 stable? I'd totally go for it they worked without XMP at that level, but 4200 CL32 is basically 2x worse than 3600 CL16 😕
@@ChatGTA345 with the latest bios update, I've been able to get 4800 cl 36 stable, but I had to increase the voltages and go up to 1.4v to the sticks. I haven't spent a whole lot of time fine tuning the timings, but higher MHz resulted in boot loops. Hopefully things keeps getting better with the updates.
@@tronotrond I see, what's your latency as measured by AIDA64?
I've had zero issues with my 7700x and 6000mhz xmp. Is the memory you chose on your boards QVL?
@@insertnamehere4419 I think the issue in this thread is to be able to run 128GB (4 x 32GB) configuration. It's not currently possible to run any kit available on the market above 4,800
thnk you !!! I'm became crazy with my 64 kingston 4 dimm you are the first you tuber than speak about the problem DDR5 and XMP DON'T WORK 4DIMM
its still early adopter of ddr5, but the headaches and the pricing is why i went ddr4. i belive mr tech notice also mentioned for creation amount is greater than speed. i might be wrong.
Thank you, you're the only one I've found answers the question 2 vs 4 DDR5 sticks
love the info on ram!b With so many brands out there it is so easy to over spend! All this info is helping me see how much I need, what speeds and what I don't need! Thank you!
I got a 7800X3D. I went with 4 sticks of T-Create 6000MTs CL30. I get weekly blue screens. Surprisingly stable since it's only weekly. I can work hardcore creator workloads for entire days straight with no issues, but once a week I'll be randomly hit by a blue screen. I've ruled out every other possible cause, and none of the RAM sticks are bad. This is my first time going with 4 sticks and now I wish I went with 2 lol, but I am experimenting now with trying to get it fully stable since it's been surprisingly stable otherwise. I've rolled by speeds to 5600MTs to keep the timings, since AMD seems to respond better to low timings; as opposed to higher speeds. If that doesn't work I'll try 5200MTs at CL30. If that doesn't work maybe I'll try CL34; basically copying the 2x32 spec from teamgroup. If that doesn't work I'll try 5600MT at CL40, or take half the sticks out and call it another learning mistake in PC building lol...like when I built my first & only dual-GPU PC in 2012.
13:32 It would have booted anyway. I'm not sure if you tried because of editing and not live, but I just put 6000 in my 12700K rig, and it did that same thing down to the letter. But when it said it was reset and you pulled that channel of RAM, I did not. Instead, I went into BIOS and turned on XMP (6000), rebooted like normal, and it worked like a charm. Has been running solid ever since. Not sure what that corruption message was, but all it did was reset the BIOS back to the factory, and then I just turned on XMP, and that was it.
For some reason, I couldn’t change anything in my Gigabyte Bios.
But after I unplugged the battery for 20 seconds, with no power cable and turned on my PC with all 4 Ram blocks. It worked perfectly 🙂
This isn't limited to DDR5, or Intel, XMP always was dodgy with more than 2 sticks... It's a synchronization issue... Sometimes you can get around it by shuffling the sticks around, sometimes you can relax the timings manually, sometimes you can lower the frequency by 100-200MHz and then it works fine. Try your XMP 6000 setting, but manually set the clock to 5800 MHz instead.
Unstable tried
Indeed, I am having the same issue with 4x32GB in an AM4 B550 board with BIOS from August 2023. Runs at 2133, won't post at 3200 (the one XMP profile).
I haven't tried anything in between yet.
The RAM is Corsair CMK64GX4M2E3200C16. If you dig, 2133 appears to be the highest frequency at which it is guaranteed to run. It's a scam. They advertise the memory as 3200, include that number in the article number and what it actually means is "if you have no more than two DIMMs, of not too high capacity/density, with a bit of luck you may be able to overclock it to 3200 MHz and make it to a desktop without crashing".
Great video! BTW: What keyboard is that in the video? Looks slick!
Thanks for your continued report on this issue.
Lets hope that Gen13 resolves this. I prefer the look of 4 sticks over 2 ^^
Nope still not fixed.
13th gen. no. still can't enable the xmp with 4 sticks
Nope
i agreed with all your comment, 4x DIMM won't work stable for long .. although you have pass all memory test doesn't mean you can pass with your daily work. for my case, i had to left it with 2x DIMM and set myself limit
The 4x DDR5 RAM problem of the Asus Prime Z690-A was solved with Bios update 2305. Have all my G Skill Tridenz Z5 5600Mhz installed & tested with MemTest86 V10.2 free (USB). Before it was not possible for me 4x DDR 5 with 5600Mhz stable to run. am glad that it now runs. Great video THANKS
I'm running the ProArt Z690 board with latest BIOS 2305 and 4 sticks of G Skill Trident Z5 5600Mhz with timings of 30-36-36-89 with no luck. I can get it to *almost* pass memtest with it running at 5000 40-40-40-79 but there's always one or two memory errors that show up. Still doing various tests to see if I can make it stable at all.
@@seephor I own 2x the following set: G.Skill TridentZ Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 5600, CL28, (2x16GB), F5-5600J2834F16GX2-TZ5RK. Works on my Asus Prime Z690 without problems. Whether the RAM in the XMP (all over 4800mhz is oc) works with your CPU is of course dependent on the CPU, not just the RAM.
@@mumpel_tg_test1305 2 sticks work fine. I’m trying to run 4 sticks of 32GB. The best I could do is 4600Mhz with timings of 34-36-36-96
@@seephor Which operating system do you use?
@@mumpel_tg_test1305 Windows 11
Advertised speeds are for the memory it doesn't guarantee that the mem mb and proc combo can reach that speed. Hint: look at the intel specs for its processor mem speed.
Thanks so much for this video. I had given up on enabling XMP with my 4x16gb 5200mhz DDR kingston fury ram. I have a msi z690-a pro with a 12700k cpu and updating the bios finally posted. I haven't run any benchmarks but it posts and does everyday tasks just fine.
Have you tried testing with memtest86?
I bought my X570 PC before I was aware of the limitations with regard to populating all memory slots. I should have bought 2 16gb sticks. The memory controller has a tough time with maintaining a 1 to 1 "Infinity Fabric" (1,800Mhz) with all memory slots populated. 16gb sticks were somewhat rare and expensive at the time. I bought 4 sticks of 3,600Mhz c14, 15, 15, 15, 35 (Samsung B-die), and though I could get all 4 sticks to operate at their XMP profile, I had WHEA errors. They were incredibly intermittent- sometimes going for days without a reboot even though correctable WHEA errors were happening in the background all the time. This lasted through several different video cards, and 2 CPU's- as I had a 5600x prior to the 5900x. Recently, I bought a new GPU, and while changing it my water pump died.
While replacing the water pump, and the GPU, I accidentally ripped the 5900X out of its socket without releasing the bar- ouch. This happened because of how damn well the Thermal Grizzly pink thermal paste was adhering between the CPU, and waterblock. While simply trying to remove the water block, it pulled off the CPU with it. However, there was no damage, it just cleaned the pins, even scraping off a thin layer of gold plating(I wonder where that went). I crossed my fingers and reinstalled everything, and thankfully it posted, and booted just fine, and low and behold- no more WHEA errors.. It's been almost two weeks, now. What the hell? Was one of my pins dirty, and not getting good contact?! Now I'm afraid to change anything.
Fantastic video, thank you. I am having the exact same issues with my new computer. Just bought the Corsair Vengeance i8100 that came with 2 sticks of 32Gb Dominator DDR5 ram clocked at 6,000MHz. Tried installing 2 more 32 Gb sticks of the exact same ram. Same speed, size same everything and the new computer would not go more than 3 min. without a crash and need to reboot. I even got 2 blue screens and total system lock up in the first hour. When I pulled the new ram back out, everything started working great. Also, when I removed the added RAM, it was very hot to the touch. About to watch your update video. Hope it has a solution to the problem.
excellent video now do the same but with AMD EXPO 🙌
Thank you for the info and tips boss🌟
So useful. Thanks for the explanation 🙏🏽
What about 13th gen? Same issue prevails? The issue is only because of the motherboard??
Be warned if you update your bios you lose your old bios settings. So record your settings before updating! Also just buy larger 2x capacity sticks. Also if you buy a k series cpu then you fine tune that so there's no reason not to fine tune your ram. Try loosening the timings (if it won't boot) the last tip I'll give is don't buy dd5 in the 1st place 🤣🤣
As far i remember from the 12th gen cpu reviews, tt's not a matter of ram or either motherboards. It's the cpu that doesn't support 4 stick of memory in xmp mode
7700x w/ 4 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance 5600 running perfectly fine. Mobo is the Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX on latest bios (December '22)
This is what I have seen in Greg Salazar's Fix or Flop series so many times
You’re not doing the correct settings in the BIOS. After you set the XMP profile the next step is to go down to DRAM VDD Voltage and set it the voltage to 1.3. Then change DRAM VDDQ Voltage to 1.3. THE FINAL STEP!!! Go to “AI Tweaker Advance Memory Voltages and go down to PMIC Voltages and change it to “By Per PMIC” save and exit. Restart, it may take some time, and then it will work.
This did not work for me using 128gb Corsair 5600 (4x32) -- it booted, but I had multiple BSOD and Windows Explorer kept crashing.
@@Synchrodipityhave you found a workaround? I managed to run at most at 4200 stable.
@@angelg3986 I swapped the ram for 64gb of 5600 Kingston that was on the QVL. Stable since then.
@@SynchrodipityI have the same, and it works fine.
Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5 6000 MHz AMD Expo works in a 4x 16GB configuration on my Asus X670E Extreme with AMD 7950X
jesuseffinchrist the price of the mobo is insane :(
BIOS version?
@@fabiob9147 Using latest BIOS version
I think we need to see you build the ASUS Z790 Creator mobo, with the I9-13900k CPU and test 128gb DDR5 with that. If it works that's what I'm buying!! 😀
How much speed do you expect?
i did the mistake and ordered 4x16 with my 7950x, but it does work, only point is that goes to 5200 and not 6000.
I’m going to check this out in some time. Just made my first build with the z690 intel1700 ddr5. And I had already an issue with the Bios😄 It was the compatibility from 12 gen 13 gen. Gladly my friend had the 12 gen CPU and quickly fixed the issue. But I’m interested in the Ram. As a first build just decided to go with the new DDR5 and PCI 5.0 upgrade for future upgrades. And I see now still we have a lot of Bug’s to Fix. But thanks for your videos, they help really. Especially for as me from 13 years coming back in the PC world. I’m like a Stone Age guy😂
Did you get it working 💪? I just did two z590 builds with MSI. Now I have the Asus ROG E and Intel 13 i9...bought 4 sticks of DDR5 and just saw this....did I make a mistake?
Buy your memory based on your own requirements (i.e. understand your workloads). If you need capacity (especially the max supported by the platform) you will not get JEDEC defined standard speeds. If your workloads are latency sensitive you should target a single stick per memory channel. Ranks might also play a role here, but it will depend on platform. Each generation of CPUs will come with improved memory controllers. Intel 12th gen can do 4800, AMD 7000 series can do 5200, rumors suggests that Intel 13th gen could do 5600. This will probably slowly go towards 7200 (but will take years).
You really good at explaining thank you
wow, thats a very important info. I was gonna use 4x 32gb ddr5 ram on my new setup. Really! to be honest i just waiting you to create i9 13900K and rtx4090 with DDR5 performance video for creator works.
I really like your content
Honestly, for people who need 128GB, I think going with a DDR4 board is going to be better. It's possible to get 4000mhz CL 18 4x32GB DDR4, they actually sell kits like that work in Gear 1 and will probably perform better than 4x32 GB 4800mhz CL 40 DDR5 in Gear 2 will.
@@MistyKathrine noted that bro, thanks 👍
update now you can launced 128gb 4x32 at 5600mhz
Hey! so ive got a 12900k, 64GB DDR5 6400Mhz, Z690 Aorus Master MB, 3080 ti aorus master and this crashes on their own xmp profile i cant even boot and i get a memory code on the motherboard all my games stutter when im streaming in 1080p and playing in 4k max on apex and this is kind of ridiculous because i bought almost the best everything and nothing is working right in either windows 10 or 11
Man I just got 2 more sticks of ram to put in my pc and googled why I couldn't enable xmp and found this video. No one else is talking about this. I really hope it is something that can be fixed in future bios.
Actually Jayz two Cent and I think also Linus and der 8auer talked about it.
Depends on the bios. Some versions of bios wont allow it properly due to new updates for newer cpus for the MB. I found with mine, i had to manually set the ddr voktage up .2 volts when using XMP. Older bios, xmp will work without voltage change. Something to do with bios uogrades and cpu compatibilities.
Thanks for this well done video.
This video is Awesome man, interesting
On my AMD 7950 running 4 sticks of ram at 5600 MT/S my system bullet stable at this specs but with 4 stick of ram 64 GB total 6000 Mhz NOT STABLE the system boots up but not stable tested with Memtes 86+ , AIDA 64 Stability test , OCCT Test Not stable I tried every method not stable at all none of them worked for 4 sticks of ram ! However for 2 sticks of ram I can go 6200 MT/S stable with all tests but for 6400 Mhz system fails immediately to initialize boot up sequence ! Rams kit Kingston Fury Renegade 6000 MT/S with 3 XMP profile to set, 4800, 5600, 6000
I was looking for 4 x 16GB or 4 x 32GB kits and there's literally nothing. That the motherboards are advertised as 128GB capable with RAM kits on QVL is hugely misleading if not downright false advertising. How does one get 128GB @ 6,000mhz DDR5 today? You can't. Interesting video!!
exactly!
@@theTechNotice I have a set of 2x16 GB 5200mhz and 2x16 4800 MHz (ddr5) on a MSI pro z690-a and a i5 12600k, it runs on 4800 just fine, I'm considering about to change my 4800 set to a 2x32gb 5200mhz set, but will I obtain any benefit to the larger amount of ram in davinci resolve studio? I film in 4K...
Yo guys, I've managed to boot without any issues with 4x8G 5200Mts Kingston Fury at 4400Mhz
Settings:
XMP: Manual
Freq: 4400Mhz
System Agent: 1.35v
VDD: 1.25v
VDDQ: 1.25v
Under advanced set TXVDDQ: 1.25v
Memory controller: 1.25v
I'm using 13700k with Z690-a prime
Cheers
Btw worst PC buy ever, lol..
I had no issues until today when booting up my system it simply didn’t power up! I removed the memory (G.Skill 4 16GB) sticks on my Asus Prime Z690-A Mobo and the CMOS battery. I installed them back after 5 minutes and the BIOS screen popped up, made adjustments mentioned above (XMP 1) and saved it and still an issue. The only way it will boot up properly to windows is by removing the memory sticks but one. I didn’t have this issue before and it ran beautifully with 64GB of ram until today.
13900 and ASRock z790 Live Mixer works with 128GB Corsair 5200 memory, even though their website says it won't work with 4 sticks
thanks mate, i couldnt figure why my games always crash, even after 3 weeks of repair
Is this still an issue with the 13th Gen CPUs??
I have a i9 13900 and I’m running 64 GB DDR5 ram but I would love to increase to 128
I bought a new build with a Tuf z790 plus wifi motherboard, I7 13700k cpu, Gigabyte RTX 4080 OC and a 2x16 32gb Corsair Dominator 6200mhz ddr5 kit. Every time I tried to enable the XMP profile the system would fail post. I found a forum thread that mentioned slot population, I removed the dimms and populated the 2 dimms in slots 2 and 4, BANG! XMP working at 6200mhz, no issues at all.
Hi, Had you installed the ram sticks wrong? What slots were they originally installed in?
@@n4ul17o Originally in slots 1 and 3 like normal, but they work in 2 and 4 instead
@@pmcomputing2459 That's very weird, isn't it?
@@n4ul17o yes but apparently thats just DDR5, not sure if correct but the way I understand it is that it needs the extra latency because of how fast it is.
Do you plan to test the crucial 128Gb, which have default speed @4800? It's also listed at the Pugets recommended system for Davinci resolve. Thank you for all the info, keep up the excellent work!
Yes, we need more videos addressing this issue! I pulled my hair out with 128 GB DDR5 with my 7950x build. I spent over 40 hours debugging to get to the point where I learned about MemTest86, memory controllers, DIMMs, and ranks. Eventually, I found out from testing I could only get 64 GB to be stable. I see from comments that this happens with every early generation and that you should know better, but from an average consumer perspective, I felt misled by these motherboards saying that they can support 128 GB DDR5. Also, going off your car and work analogy, I don't feel comfortable tuning the voltage and timings. Had I known better, I would have gone with a different purchasing decision, such as DDR4 with a 12th gen Intel. Now I am left at a loss with an extra 2 x 32 GB set of expensive DDR5 ram.
I have similar config and also struggle with making the DDR5 RAM work for about 3 days.
Have you tried enabling D.O.C.P 1/XMP/EXPO and at the same time reducing the frequency? I have two dual kits of 6400 CL32 G.Skill Trident-Z RAM and I managed to make it POST with 2 sticks@6000 MHz and with 4 sticks@4800 MHz. Now running the stress and stability tests, 4*32GB@4000 MHz with D.O.C.P. 1 seems to be OK but let's see :)
Same issue I feel this should be a lawsuit at this point. I made my decision verifying the QVL and going for a workstation build, on to find out my decisions where informed by misleading statements.
I wonder if 13th Gen and Z790 will be any better. Or if anyone finally brings out 64gb sticks to get 128gb
I think we will see that in time. I believe DDR5 is capable of up to 256gb per stick.
Ditto. I hope we can get that tested when the 13th gen and Z790 come out next week. Anyone know if there's been any announcements for release dates for 64GB DDR5 sticks?
@@birdman8125 256gb per stick? 🤣🤣😭 are u talking about ddr9 in the years 2045??? 😭😭
12900k 4 sticks 64 gskill 6000 only works stable at 4000. Thanks for the terrific info.
Isit a 4 sticks kit? I am running two kits of 2x48 kits because corsair dominator doesn't come with 196 gb of ram and when I XMP I have to keep the voltage at 1.41 and can't go beyond 4800 MT/S. any solutions?
I fixed it and was able to push it to 6000 but I am keeping it at 5200.
Hello. Do you think the DDR5 would make a big difference in comparison with DDR4 using i7 13th g. and Z790 motherboard for music and video production? Worth it?
why not just use a z690 should do the job just fine with 13th gen
Excellent physics.
Thank YOU.
Nope mine would not write correctly with nearly 4000 errors with 4 sticks in system. Wish I would have know this before buying 4 sticks of DDR5 memory. Memory test sent: sent RRWWGET but read RRWWDET errors out the ying yang. 2 sticks of 7200 runs the memory test great, no issues.
I'd love to take the plastic off my ram sticks, and put some all metal heatsinks with optimized topology for moving air, and then just slap a 4 slot ram cooler on top. I bet we could really push the limits then.
i saw similar issue earlier on other video called "Be Careful Before Buying Intel 12th Generation Memory(i might be wrong)" on a JayzTwoCents channel, he also tried to boot with 4 sticks at full speed and motherboard failed that. Also i read some "theory" in discussions about that, and it seems caused by low count of PCB layers/trackways. Actual/current boards only have about 8+ layers(i might be wrong), so there a required more "thicker" boards with more layers/trackways, and i hope that will become with 700-chipsets. That's why i decided to skip DDR5 on the 600-chipsets until 700 come out, and save some money by pairing 12700k with DDR4 board and RAM that i already have.
from what i have heard lately, it is about how 32GB+ sticks are DUAL channels which max out the bandwidth. anything else "overloads" it and really doesnt make much of a difference. i am completely new to the DDR5 quirks but it makes sense. i found that corsair currently sells a 4 stick kit BUT its only 8GB or 16GB but they are only single channel sticks. from how it was explained in a video, a single channel is writing or read only. dual channel can read and write at the same time. there seems to only be 4 channels for a 4 DIMM mobo. the only way that a lay man like me can think of is that mobo will have to have 8 channels for 4 DIMMs. however, i think that would impact the cpu and mobo development quite a bit. hope this might make a little sense.
PS- single channel, the ram chips are on ONE side of the stick. dual channel has ram chips on BOTH sides.
Any updates? I am not working at 6000mt/s
On 14700k z790
This helped a lot thank you
why did you get this instead of the 7950x ?!?!?
Even after all this time , ram, cpu and boards manufacturers really need to solve this with 4 sticks!!! 4 sticks! 128 Gig still will not run at 5000 or 6000 very disappointing
@thetechnotice
hi there, do you think it can run now the 5600mhz 4x16gb in XMP2 with the newer bios? its now 2024.. thank you!
I have the same specs as you have, the exact same Kingston Ram, even the same GPU. I only have a different CPU, an AMD Ryzen 9, 7900x cpu running on an ASUS Prime B650-Plus. According to specs this board also supports that ram, according to the QVL. I have not been messing in the bios at first. Tried 64GB, ran perfectly fine at 4,800Mt/s. Then added the other two dimms for the total of 128GB, but my pc wouldn't boot. I tried turning on Memory Training, but I simply could not get into the bios. Only when removing two dimms it worked again. For me it's not even needed 4 dimms running at 4,800Mt/s. If all of them ran at 3,600Mt/s it would be fine as well, but also this combination is not working. And, I did upgraded the bios a few days ago. It could probably be the motherboard, which is not the most expensive board, but one could assume if the specs say, it can handle 128GB, it should be able to handle 128GB. So currently I have 2 (expensive) Kingston dimms lying here collecting dust. Any suggestion how I get 4 of them working? 128GB on 3,600Mt/s is faster than 64GB on 4,800Mt/s. It did work for a while, but I noticed after the bios update (when all settings are reset, and of course the 4 dimms were set back to auto, the pc refused to boot again), that after removing the 2 extra sticks my video editor is working a lot slower. I do a lot of video effects, encoding on 4K video material. Any suggestions on how to get this working?
Why are 4 sticks (128) at 3600 faster than 2 sticks (64) at 4800?
I was able to get 4 chips to work on my pc a little more stable by going into AI Tweaker\Advanced Memory Voltages and under PMIC Voltage, you select By per PMIC
Did you enable XMP?
I actually bought 4 sticks of that exact Kingston Fury DDR5 RAM up to 128 GB but haven’t built it into a system yet. Are you saying that without XMP (at base speed) it will be stable but it just can’t be overclocked? If so, that’s not the biggest deal for me since my workflow just requires the capacity to hold lots of music samples. I wasn’t planning to overclock. Are the sticks stable without XMP?
yess sure, it just can't run the xmp. with the stock speed its just fine
This is a nightmare. I was running 2x32Gb for some months, running perfectly at 6000Mhz. And now i saved some extra money and got 2 other identical blades. Vengeance 32x2 (64Gb) CL32-6400Mhz. Updated my Msi Bios to latest (It's a AM5 system) 7950x. The full Ram (128Gb) identified at bios, but after the first boot, never POST again. So i had to PHYSICALLY remove 2 blades to be able to see the Bios again, down the speed to 4000Ghz and now they finally Boot.
Also the Boot is Soooooo SLOW takes ages to start loading windows. When it start loading it it loads fast.
This video came at a good time for me, we're just looking at the 64GB RAM deals these days and I was wondering why there isn't a set of 4 sticks. I even still wonder if it makes much of a difference in performance if you get RAM faster than 5600MHz with Intel CPU, specifically the 13th gen.Thanks for the info 🙂🍺🍺🍺
AMD 7950x here with 128GB (4x32) G.Skill Flare X5 on ASRock x670e, I can occasionally boot with AMD EXPO for my ram but have experienced memory corruption (confirmed with memtest) so I disabled it. The extra speed would be nice but the capacity is essential for me.
Issue with 7950x and 4 stick
Geez, nobody from big league tested 4 sticks at same time. Disapointed.
I very much appreciate you doing this testing. I will get 2x32gb even if I don't use it now, but down line I don't wanna upgrade RAM.
Now I know why on some micro ATX boards there are only 2 slots for RAM.
Dual slot boards are an old thing, has nothing to do with this ddr5 situation
@@Waldherz the overclocking boards as asus rog apex & aorus tachyon & evga dark kingkin and more just come with 2 sticks ram slot for the full size atx board. why just 2 slot ram for these highend boards?? google can tell u everything. google bro google
@@SUTH_33 ....Still has nothing to do with DDR5 specificaly.
I dont need google. I own pretty much every single Asus, MSI and Gigabyte high end motherboard that was ever sold.
considering gskill already has 7600MHZ CL36 ddr5 ram available. this issue needs to be fixed ASAP.
I have to say, that I've never used XMP on maximum memory levels, it is almost impossible, mostly because crosstalk on memory lanes leading to the CPU.
And on servers, they have a table to refer when using large amount of memory sticks.
I also have an old PC here that I use as a server, X99 board, 8 sticks, 4 channels, originally 3000MHz, I had to lower them to 1866MHz using 8x8GB.
(admittedly using 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix Elite @2333MHz, and 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix @3000MHz, but it never ran around 2333MHz in the first place)
If it's due to crosstalk, wouldn't it be solved by using two-stick 96GB setups (2 x 48GB) instead ones with four sticks at 128GB (4 x 32GB)? If so, I guess I'll just go with the two-stick setup for my next purchase, since the extra 32GB of RAM isn't strictly necessarily for my current work.
@@VVayVVard Most Motherboards don't support full sized ultra-dense DIMMS. I don't think it is possible to go beyond 32GB DIMMS on most commercial motherboards. Maybe on Enterprise.
@@ryche.rising Recently Asus announced support for 96GB and 192GB kits via a BIOS update (and MSI also for some motherboard types) so I thought I'd just buy a compatible one along with the RAM.
I have the same issues as you describe with my 4x16gb Corsair Dominator 5600mhz. They run at 4900mhz to be able to work without crashing.