Yeah! Got it to work with your parameters (mostly) on my Auros B650 with 7950x and 4x32GB=128GB Hynix A die sticks. The only difference is a 0.025V VDD increase (to 1.425V, VDDQ remains at 1.400V) to make it run more stable. 1st time to get 4 stick to post at 6000MT in 6 months! Thanks!
I refined/lowered my voltage settings, now SOC @ 1.25 (in bios, but 1.30 actually as gigabyte boards add an extra 0.05v for some reason), vdd(ram) at 1.410V, vddQ at 1.395V. Now running stable with bios F8d. Please retrain your memory after each setting change. The board may not retrain it on non-memory voltage/freq setting changes, but you shall force it to retrain.
@@lalitsharma8622 Try to set that mem context option to disable and it seems to force the board to retrain on the next boot. Then set it to enable and save, and reboot again.
Kudos to you! My four 32GB Adata Hynix A-die sticks are now running at 6000MHz on a B650M AORUS motherboard. I simply copied your settings and it just worked! Your video gave me the courage to buy four RAM sticks and try memory overclocking for the first time in my life!
@copykatten Care to share your settings? I've got an Asus rog crosshair x670e hero , 7950x3d, and 128 gb dominator titanium but can't get it to post at 5200 let alone 6000!
I was told basically that 4 DIMMs in AM5 does not work. I found that the G.SKILL Flare X5 Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL36-36-36-96 seemed to be more stable than most. All I had to do to get two sets was to reset BIOS to defaults and wait. They came up and worked fine. I went in and set EXPO in the BIOS and rebooted, memory training only took a couple of minutes. Everything is working great at the 6000MT/s CL36-36-36-96. My motherboard is an MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI... What a relief!!!
@@zeroyum1473 I'm considering giving it a shot and buying a second set of that Flare X5 to save a $100 over buying a whole new 64gb kit. My PC never had a problem with EXPO out of the box on my first kit back on an older less stable AGESA. Right now I'm on the same one as you. Worth a shot?
I finally put my system together, it posted within 30 seconds first try with the 64 gigs of memory I really lucked out. The only issue I had was my CPU 7900X was heating up then the whole system shut down. I fixed it my moving he wire on the NZXT Elite pump from CPU FAN to CPU OPT and the temps went down into the 30's at idle. I played Diablo 4 and the temps went into the upper 50's for about 30 seconds then dropped back down into the low 40's for the rest of the time playing. I could not be happier how it turned out. I haven't had the need to undervolt or anything as of yet.
Nice video. I specifically waited to upgrade to AM5 because I had very similar issues with RAM speeds in the early days of AM4. At the time, I had a R7 1700 with 16gb of 3200mhz. I had a hard time getting it stable at its rated speed, so I had to run it ar 2933mhz for quite a while. Eventually bios updates cleaned things up, and I ended up upgrading to a 3950x, then a 5950x. Currently run that 5950x with 128gb at 3600mhz. Been rock solid for me with this config. I didn't want to deal with a repeat of those early issues, so I'm waiting to see if the new 9000 series cpus and next gen mobo's clean this up. Really hoping the 9950X3D has VCache on both CCDs!
Configuration: - X670E Aorus Master (bios F21) - Ryzen 9 7950X3D - 96Gb@7200 (4x24gb gskill) - Aorus 4090 waterforge With XMP1 enabled the system works perfectly in default XMP config 96gb@7222MT/s I didn’t had to do or modify nothing.
i found the best way to get them running quickly is to turn off the XMP then install ram let computer boot to desktop then reboot and go into bios and turn on XMP again and it should work fine you have to be very patient when messing with ddr5 ram
Informative video Wil! Dude you are savvy on the memory timings, and knowing how to troubleshoot, etc. I am still on AM4 because it serves me very well for now, but at some point I'd like to go to AM5, thinking 7800X3D cpu and at least 32GB minimum of RAM (will most likely get a 4k monitor before that point though, in a couple of months) Anyway, again cool video. I'll probably watch it again at some point. Take care!
glad I bought the AORUS MASTER X670E , one of the benefits of this board is that come with LD error code display , very important when do memory overclock
are you running 4 sticks of ddr5 for this mobo? This is the mobo I want to get for my new build, and I'm wanting to do a 4 stick set up so I'm trying to get as much info as I can beforehand
@@nicholasadams81 I was testing with 4 ram memory but only I can set to 5400mhz . 6000mhz with 4 stick is a no go. But with just 2 stick I was able to overclock stable to 7200mhz
Great video I was never able to do the same with my system with 4 sticks of Kingston Fury Beast, and according to Actually Hardcore Overclocking you should not populate all 4 modules of RAM in DDR5 since each stick allegedly has already a dual channel internally so when you try to use all the 4 of them you are forcing the RAM controller on the CPU! (Like I mentioned allegedly) at the end I went for the same memory you have but 2 x 32 GB = 64 and make sure that I chose EXPO RAM instead of XMP RAM!! :)
@@keylanoslokj1806 Hi I ended doing the same with a kit from GSkill 2 x 32 GB 6000 Mhz CL30 BUT I really like the look of all four modules populated, shame on DDR5!!
@@HighIgnition because as speeds go north of 7800 no CPU will basically support them. I think the official documentation of intel for 12th series for example, gives 4000Mhz max for DDR5 ones... .
Great video, thanks for sharing all of your troubleshooting! Do you notice any performance difference outside of scenarios that make use of the higher capacity?
Nice to see im not the only one with freaking AM5 problems. I have to say its pretty bad that the mobo dosent have the lights to tell u if u have problems with cpu or ram. GJ
Hello. they updated the bios again on the 16th to F11C and got rid of F11B all together, I actually have this mobo and a 7900X like you originally had in your video but I haven't put mine together yet and watching you're videos is scaring the hell out of me with all these memory issues. I starting at the top of the mobo list with the highest speed and went down the list following the exact memory numbers until I found one that I could actually purchase and it was 5600 speed Kingston 2x32gb and I think I'm going to have problems with that much memory in training. Also if you could give me any tips on keeping the CPU cool as I've seen you have done? Thanks for another great video!
Just built a 7950x3d, and bought the GSKill 2 x 16 at CL 28. I am very experienced with overclocking on Intel, but this is my first AMD build. I really want to buy two more sticks since you can't get these in 2 x 32gb sticks, but I'm really concerned I wont get them to work at speed on my Asus x670e Crosshair Hero. I ended up purchasing 2 x 32gb at CL30, but after seeing your video I'm considering buying more CL 28 sticks to see if I can get it working. Has this stayed stable for all this time, once you got it stable? Was it worth the time spent?
Appreciate the wisdom, my brother! I'm rebuilding my system tomorrow going from 5800x3d AM4 to 7950x3d on the MSI MEG x670e Ace. Do you play Star Citizen?
My RAM doesnt have EXPO because in my mobo support page, RAM compatipility list. Most of the one with EXPO didn't officially by default had the 2 or 4 DIMM socket support. Among the few there were some ADATA that had 2/4 plus XMP and EXPO. But they were out of stock at the time. Pity cause I really liked their design. Went with G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB kit, non NEO so they have XMP only. 6400 CL32. Finger cross that when I do add the other kit in the future. They all work fine. I'll be happy to get them all 4 at 6000 at least.
I tried using the EXPO RAM-boost 5600/6000 settings after building my PC recently & it slowed boot/restart time to disturbing slows (~3 minutes or so), but it did work. So, I set it back at no EXPO & regular stock 4800mhz speeds & it boots/restarts normally again. I'm using 4x16GB (64GB) of Kingston Fury Beast 4800/6000 DDR5 with an MSI B650 Edge Wifi MB. I originally planned to do 2x16GB in my build, but the two empty memory slots bugged me for some reason, so I ordered another 2x16GB of the exact same RAM. 😆 Not like it really matters I guess, since I'm not running my PC to participate in benchmarking e-sport games & there is no need to overclock anything in my system for high/ultra-quality 1440p gaming.
Hi Great video. I see you are using CL30 sticks. I have CL36 Kingston 32GB (2x16GB) KF560C36BBEAK2/32 Fury Beast CLXX 6000MHz DDR5 RAM RGB. Will this work with those as well? Confirmed Hynix A-DIE. Ryzen 7950X. ASRock X670E Steel Legend Mobo (latest bios). Any help would be much appreciated.
Interesting video. I have the same RAM as you but at 6400. At stock settings for 4x16GB sticks performance is horrible, only beating my sons 4 year old i5 by a few points.) I am tinkering with expo and speeds to see if I can get the Passmark score higher. Hmmm. Please do a Passmark video, and or post the results if you will. :-) *** Update. I just got the 4 sticks to work at 6000 Mhz, giving a Passmark score 3996 of top 98 percent. I am hoping that two 32GB sticks can do as good or better without overclocking.
I attempted to apply the same parameters as in your video but it was unsuccessful. My configuration is 7950x on Aorus x670e Xtreme, BIOS ver is F30. My 4 sticks DDR5 are also GSkill Trident Z5 Neo Expo just like yours but they are 4x32GB. With 2 DIMMS, it can easily reach 6000MT/s with EXPO enabled, however, when 4 DIMMS are installed, the speed is limited to 3600MT/s only by default. Could you please tell me what to do for my case?
After hours of messing with the bios I decided to give Ryzen master a try just like I did with my 5950x setup. I have my Corsair vengeance 64GB ram running 6600mhz currently and is stable. About to try 6800
@@ThePhrenik I know…I have a 7950x currently. I was saying after hours of messing with the bios I resolved the issue by skipping the bios and getting it done in Ryzen master
I have a 7900x3d I have been running 4 sticks on at 6000 30-38-38-30 since about a week after it came out. Using the same board and ram. I found going straight to 6000 did not work but walking in in from 5600 to 5800 to 6000 would get it to a stable state. EDIT I have M die
I used close to the same timings, I did adjust some for stability. Usually was passing various benchmark tests but would find the occasional crash in some games which seemed to go away when timings relaxed. Mind you I was not doing in depth analysis and it was highly subjective. Another interesting thing I noticed was there is an impact on cache latency upwards of 10% improvement with with more relaxed timings. I went from a 11.7-11.8 ns on L3 down to 10.7 ns. It may seem minor but I noticed a big bump on speedway with the improved latency. So there is probably some magic ratio that exists, that if one took the time document and test various settings, but the question becomes if it becomes worthwhile beyond the challenge itself. @@magno5157
Hello - did you consider getting a single 4 x 16gb kit vs dual 2 x16gb kits? Most of the time when you want to overclock higher amounts of memory - generally it's better to have a single kit with 4 matching ram modules. Overclocking upto 32gb's of memory with 2 seperate kits should be ok. I have always liked to get a single kit with all matching modules.
Careful with cleaning your PC with compressed air. It has liquid inside it that is one of the lead causes of fried GPUs lol just a heads up. Sick build though. 3:27
Curious what linpack xtreme gives you. It tends to be super sensitive, though, so running *anything else* at the same time will change the results. But there's a bootable version too, like memtest! Curious what you get with one kit at 6000, versus both kits at 6000! *EDIT* LOL, I just heard at 19:15 that you said linpack failed. rip :(
Great video! I've got a question, maybe you can help me out: I've got 2x32 gb and 2 x 16 gb for a total of 96 gb of ram (ddr5), but the frequencies differ between the two pairs. Should I install all the ram or just keep the 2 x 32? Thanks
Attempted this with exact settings on 7950x, Asrock Steel legend 670e, and gskill trident z 4x32. Can’t even get above 3600. 5200 will shut off on the reboot and default back to 3600. 4800 puts it in an endless memory training mode and I have to clear the cmos.
Hi, I own 3 Gigabyte X670E xtremes all equipped with 7950X3D's my memory of choice is 64 GB 6000Mhz @ 30-36-36-76 1.4v I also run a 7700x on an ASRock X670E Steel Legend. Just one thing to point out YCruncher = good test., Memtest86 ... Nope would not trust the results. Go with Kahu and Memtest5 if you really want to test your memory properly,, my memory initially passed testing with memtest86 but kahu and memtest5 made it error out, those tests should be run for 24 hours, if you pass those - that is a stable overclock. You have the right idea - just not the most reliable tools to achieve it, I am personally about to attempt to run up two kits of Corsair CMH64GX5M2B6000C30 which are 30-36-36-76@1.4 6000Mhz on my system running F22B, odds are it wont pass testing with kahu and memtest 5, if it does I know its stable for daily drives, if not then its time to start work.
Please let me know how it goes I have the same setup, the parameters from the video seem to make the system boot but failing the tests on memtest and y-chruncher. Games do seem to be working fine but failing tests is the risk of system corruption with bad ram OC settings.
Can I try this if I have Intel with Lexar DDR5 6400mhz 32cl chips? Because I have the same problem that the system starts with two dice, but with 4 it doesn't want to.
i just built my new am5 setup and boy oh boy i cant get my system to run all four sticks of my corsair vengeance 6000 ddr5 ram to work and im losing my mind
I was curious about this too! Really curious what the difference was before/after, which is really the determining factor. Bootable is one thing, but fully stable is another. I was hoping to see linpack results, which is usually the true test, but he said it failed, which isn't a good sign :(
Ive been trying to do the same thing with my nzxt n7 b650e and i finally just gave up. Had to switch kits and finally got 2 sticks @6000mhz. Its been a headache lmao
You should just do what I did. Underclock your 6000mhz down to the recommended 5200mhz and wait for the bios update allowing more stability at higher speeds
Tried and didn't work at all for me unfortunately. Still stuck on 3600MHz. 32GB x 4 / 128GB - 2 kits of (G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MT/s CL30-40-40-96 1.40V) F5-6000J3040g32G MB: MSI MS-7D77 / MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi - latest BIOS Tried all the settings, even starting at 3800MHz. Just doesn't work for me.
@@tmike200687 At two sticks, EXPO, just works as intended, 6000MT/s CL30-40-40-96 1.40V without a problem. Hoping with bios updates we can get some more MHz.
Do you know if your sticks are 2R? Because Dual rank requires way more patient and I think the max dual rank I have seen with 128GB on 4 sticks is 6400 MT/s, but with good time to tunning Try to not use expo, and do custom timings, start with loose timings and increase slowly
4x16GB 5000Mhz Ryzen 7700 MSI B650-s working just with tighest timing profile and I am so upset. Guys, who had the same setup? Write me you settings if it works 6000
If you use 2 memory sticks, the probability of stability is certain, without the need for manual adjustments! Why use 4 sticks? I use 2 sticks 6000mhz,32gb each, in Asrock X670E TAICHI,and only adjustment was expo,6000mhz 'NATIVE' and aggressive mode!! unnecessary 4 sticks
i returned 2 sticks of 32gb ram bc i couldnt get it to work, i wish i saw this video before returning it, currently running 64gb on am5 instead of 128gb
Have your exact same ram and have so many issues with booting reliably booted good and fine for a week then not work so just stuf with 2 16 gb sticks gonna just wait till bios has more updated
Hy, after new bios,im trying 4x 32GB kinston 5600 modules but no luck. Im able to boot to windows with 48 00 5000 and 5200 but sytem is unstable all the time (with old bios, system will not start at all except 3600 speed so its step up anyway). XMP just do not work so only chance is nanual settings, any clue about numbers for kinston 32gb 5600 modules?
It is a bummer that EXPO does not play well with all slots populated. that board has evena problem when the ram is populated only on the other channel too.... I hope they can fix it with BIOS updates, but I wouldn't hold my breath so early on...
Im currently having the same issue with my RAM. I originaly had: Kingston 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL36 FURY Beast AMD EXPO/Intel XMP 3.0 and i bought a new pack of the same ram the only diffrance was that it was RGB Kingston 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL36 FURY Beast RGB AMD EXPO/Intel XMP 3.0 My motherborad is the: MSI B650 Gaming Plus WIFI I have uppdated the to newest bios: verison 7E26v13 Release Date 2023-08-11 But the PC wont even start for me, The LED light is just RED on CPU and Yellow on DRAM. I have tried putting them in diffrent slots and everyting but nothing happens. I havent tried pressing that botton you pressed on the viedo mabye that will work?
I cant get mine to work 🤷🏼♂️ 4x16gb tforce delta rgb 6000 30-36-36-76, asus tuf 670e, 7800x3d. It boots in at 6000 but anytime i launch a game it crashes
Common A5 platform issues,im with aorus x670e 7950xd, 4090 ,6000 cl 30 ,bios 13d and sometimes i have very long boot time.Ram passes very fast training but vga takes so long which is so weird as everything is properly assembled.
Same problem 4x16gb g skill z5 neo ( bought twice 2x16 package) Motherboard asrock x670e steel legend Bios updated, expo activated but bios won't take changes It runs at 4800 Is this ram meant to work as 2 sticks only in dual channel in order to get 6000mhz+ ??
Sadly its not working i have 7800x3d mai mag b650 tomahawk wifi motherboard with latest bios , i bought 4x 16 gb corsair argb 6000mhz cl30 ram , i put excacly same timings like him (on msi they are just in different places but you can find them all) and i cant even get to bios after sering this values , my ram go to defaults 3600mhz with 4 stocks and 4800 with 2 sticks, i can go to 6000mhz with expo when i use 2 sticks , its bad that you must be pro user to even get your pc working at speeds what you paid for , not so long ago you just assembly pc turn on cmp and it was working for years , im startong regeting go ryzen even if performace in games is unbeatable by same price intel
@@WiLcreatives I tried to send the amazon link but youtube kept deleting it. G.SKILL Flare X5 Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL32-38-38-96 1.35V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM - Matte Black (F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5)
@@WiLcreatives Any update my man, been having trouble searching for the right timings and settings myself. All the stuff I find is either outdated or not for my ram.
i got myself 128gb (4x32gb) 6400 32-36-36 Ram and my 7600 cant boot unless i run the ram on auto which will go with 3600mhz... i cant even load the profile for 6400 for voltage and timings and then manually set the speed to 4800. it wont boot :( mobo is an asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS
I have 7950x3d 4090 gpu kingstone 6000mhz fury beast and asus rog 670e-f wifi motherboard, when i turn EXPO i or ii or whatever to 6000mhz or 5600mhz the system boot slow but dont show up the bios menu anymore, just start up to desktop , and on 6000mhz on AIDA when i try to stress memory , instant stays it failed, i dont know what to do
So I have a msi B650m-A wifi pro with a am5 ryzen 5n7600x with 64gb (4x16gb) kingston fury ram 6000mhz cl36-38-38 ddr5 ram an i cannot get all 4 sticks to boot at 6k it doesnt boot an if it does it freezes on the msi screen before it gets to the wondows login
It's not DDR5 ram, the problem is the motherboard that doesn't take dual rank on all channels, only single rank, DDR5 32GB is Dual Rank, make sure you get a motherboard that can do dual rank all channels, I have the Asus X670E Crosshair Hero and it does dual rank all channels so I have 4 Sticks with Expo enabled, No Issues.
@@hdz77 I’m using the Asrock B650E Steel Legend WiFi. The latest BIOS update says it can up to 9200 and that is total BS. It runs sometimes at 6000 but some times it takes forever to boot with the RAM training and it goes down to 3600. I’m using XMP 3 which is the same as that BS EXPO gimmick.
@@hdz77 thats the mobo I just bought and plan on using 4 sticks that equal 32gb (8 gigs per stick). So your saying you have had no issues with this mobo when it comes to ram? Im hoping cause I was so debating on returning my sticks and just get 2 sticks that equals 32gigs. I just find having 2 sticks to be an eye sore haha. I need all 4 slots taken up.
Yeah! Got it to work with your parameters (mostly) on my Auros B650 with 7950x and 4x32GB=128GB Hynix A die sticks. The only difference is a 0.025V VDD increase (to 1.425V, VDDQ remains at 1.400V) to make it run more stable. 1st time to get 4 stick to post at 6000MT in 6 months! Thanks!
I refined/lowered my voltage settings, now SOC @ 1.25 (in bios, but 1.30 actually as gigabyte boards add an extra 0.05v for some reason), vdd(ram) at 1.410V, vddQ at 1.395V. Now running stable with bios F8d. Please retrain your memory after each setting change. The board may not retrain it on non-memory voltage/freq setting changes, but you shall force it to retrain.
@@jnjnqy Thanks. How do you force it to retrain please?
@@lalitsharma8622 Try to set that mem context option to disable and it seems to force the board to retrain on the next boot. Then set it to enable and save, and reboot again.
@@jnjnqy thank you...brilliant info!
What was you increase in performance increase, 0.5% hope you got atleast 2%
thanks bro i got mines to boot for the first time 4 sticks of 6000mhz 64gbs lets go gonna do some testing now im so happy
Congrats!!!!!
@@WiLcreatives u got a discord
@@KerwynPromoter Join the Discord Server - wilcreatives - discord.gg/bHE76s5
Kudos to you! My four 32GB Adata Hynix A-die sticks are now running at 6000MHz on a B650M AORUS motherboard. I simply copied your settings and it just worked! Your video gave me the courage to buy four RAM sticks and try memory overclocking for the first time in my life!
A win is a win! That’s awesome!
Nice
Thanks for the video, tried your settings with my Aorus X670 elite ax, a 7800X3D and 128 gb of Dominator Titanium, worked like a charm!
And can keep my Co stable at -35, so that’s nice 😅
What about with 13900 CPU?
Yoo can you help me I got the same build as you 😅
@copykatten Care to share your settings? I've got an Asus rog crosshair x670e hero , 7950x3d, and 128 gb dominator titanium but can't get it to post at 5200 let alone 6000!
@@V3RYRVR3TVyou every figure it out? I had mine at 5800mhz till I updated the bios. Now I'm trying to get that 6000mhz.
Very excited to try it tonight. Using my 4 sticks at 4800mhz . Label frequency is 6400
Did it work if so what are your speeds now?
Got the same exact RAM setup and 7950x. Very smart and powerful setup, I think 64GB 6000MHz is a perfect mix of speed & capacity.
I was told basically that 4 DIMMs in AM5 does not work. I found that the G.SKILL Flare X5 Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL36-36-36-96 seemed to be more stable than most. All I had to do to get two sets was to reset BIOS to defaults and wait. They came up and worked fine. I went in and set EXPO in the BIOS and rebooted, memory training only took a couple of minutes. Everything is working great at the 6000MT/s CL36-36-36-96. My motherboard is an MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI... What a relief!!!
How did you placed them ? A1 B1 or A1 A2 ?
@@ApRoZaR With two sets, all four slots are full. Installed how the manual called out.
@@zeroyum1473 What's your BIOS AGESA version?
@@PURENT AGESA ComboPI 1.1.0.1
@@zeroyum1473 I'm considering giving it a shot and buying a second set of that Flare X5 to save a $100 over buying a whole new 64gb kit.
My PC never had a problem with EXPO out of the box on my first kit back on an older less stable AGESA. Right now I'm on the same one as you.
Worth a shot?
I finally put my system together, it posted within 30 seconds first try with the 64 gigs of memory I really lucked out. The only issue I had was my CPU 7900X was heating up then the whole system shut down. I fixed it my moving he wire on the NZXT Elite pump from CPU FAN to CPU OPT and the temps went down into the 30's at idle. I played Diablo 4 and the temps went into the upper 50's for about 30 seconds then dropped back down into the low 40's for the rest of the time playing. I could not be happier how it turned out. I haven't had the need to undervolt or anything as of yet.
Nice what motherboard are you using?
@@WiLcreatives The same one you have Aorus X670 Elite AX
@@dfanman1 ok you used two sticks of ram or 4sticks?
@@WiLcreatives I used two sticks of 32 for 64 total, going to get another 64 very soon.
@@dfanman1 Gotcha, definitely the best route to go!
This helped me get 128gb running. Just now finishing up an overnight stress test with OCCT.
Nice video. I specifically waited to upgrade to AM5 because I had very similar issues with RAM speeds in the early days of AM4. At the time, I had a R7 1700 with 16gb of 3200mhz. I had a hard time getting it stable at its rated speed, so I had to run it ar 2933mhz for quite a while. Eventually bios updates cleaned things up, and I ended up upgrading to a 3950x, then a 5950x. Currently run that 5950x with 128gb at 3600mhz. Been rock solid for me with this config. I didn't want to deal with a repeat of those early issues, so I'm waiting to see if the new 9000 series cpus and next gen mobo's clean this up. Really hoping the 9950X3D has VCache on both CCDs!
Best 4 dimm video on RUclips well done.
Glad I came across this. Thank you. Doing a build soon same cpu and want to run 4 dimms also. Definitely going to reference your video
How did that work out for you?
Configuration:
- X670E Aorus Master (bios F21)
- Ryzen 9 7950X3D
- 96Gb@7200 (4x24gb gskill)
- Aorus 4090 waterforge
With XMP1 enabled the system works perfectly in default XMP config 96gb@7222MT/s
I didn’t had to do or modify nothing.
Will this work for 4x32 gb ram? We have the same processor
Great video - Thanks for all of you effort.
i found the best way to get them running quickly is to turn off the XMP then install ram let computer boot to desktop then reboot and go into bios and turn on XMP again and it should work fine you have to be very patient when messing with ddr5 ram
Informative video Wil! Dude you are savvy on the memory timings, and knowing how to troubleshoot, etc. I am still on AM4 because it serves me very well for now, but at some point I'd like to go to AM5, thinking 7800X3D cpu and at least 32GB minimum of RAM (will most likely get a 4k monitor before that point though, in a couple of months) Anyway, again cool video. I'll probably watch it again at some point. Take care!
If you happen to get 64gb make sure you get 2 32gb sticks and save yourself some time lol
@@WiLcreatives have they fixed the issue yet? Im wanting to do a 7800x3d build with 64gb and the bundle deal comes with 2x 16gb sticks
glad I bought the AORUS MASTER X670E , one of the benefits of this board is that come with LD error code display , very important when do memory overclock
are you running 4 sticks of ddr5 for this mobo? This is the mobo I want to get for my new build, and I'm wanting to do a 4 stick set up so I'm trying to get as much info as I can beforehand
@@nicholasadams81 I was testing with 4 ram memory but only I can set to 5400mhz . 6000mhz with 4 stick is a no go. But with just 2 stick I was able to overclock stable to 7200mhz
I love your cooler that's really neat that it plays a clip
Great video I was never able to do the same with my system with 4 sticks of Kingston Fury Beast, and according to Actually Hardcore Overclocking you should not populate all 4 modules of RAM in DDR5 since each stick allegedly has already a dual channel internally so when you try to use all the 4 of them you are forcing the RAM controller on the CPU! (Like I mentioned allegedly) at the end I went for the same memory you have but 2 x 32 GB = 64 and make sure that I chose EXPO RAM instead of XMP RAM!! :)
I heard the same man. That's ehy more i bought 2*32 dominators
@@keylanoslokj1806 Hi I ended doing the same with a kit from GSkill 2 x 32 GB 6000 Mhz CL30 BUT I really like the look of all four modules populated, shame on DDR5!!
@@HighIgnition well soon enough we won't be able to get two slots occupied. So let's enjoy it for howmuchever it lasts
@@keylanoslokj1806 😮 And why is that?
@@HighIgnition because as speeds go north of 7800 no CPU will basically support them. I think the official documentation of intel for 12th series for example, gives 4000Mhz max for DDR5 ones... .
Great video, thanks for sharing all of your troubleshooting! Do you notice any performance difference outside of scenarios that make use of the higher capacity?
Not really 1% lows tend to be better
now thats an improvement in my book, inreasing 1% lows in cs2 is a great thing@@WiLcreatives
Great video. I'm very new to PC Build (Last build is Pentium). Is system memory multiplier related to Gear 1 / Gear 2 ?
Nice to see im not the only one with freaking AM5 problems. I have to say its pretty bad that the mobo dosent have the lights to tell u if u have problems with cpu or ram. GJ
Officially with 4 sticks Amd support only drr5 3600mhz and 5200 with two stick the rest is lottery
Excellent video, and thank you for posting.
My man. I have been trying to get mine to post for weeks. Gonna see if this works
Hello. they updated the bios again on the 16th to F11C and got rid of F11B all together, I actually have this mobo and a 7900X like you originally had in your video but I haven't put mine together yet and watching you're videos is scaring the hell out of me with all these memory issues. I starting at the top of the mobo list with the highest speed and went down the list following the exact memory numbers until I found one that I could actually purchase and it was 5600 speed Kingston 2x32gb and I think I'm going to have problems with that much memory in training. Also if you could give me any tips on keeping the CPU cool as I've seen you have done? Thanks for another great video!
Mannnn that’s crazy. I need to check out that bios. Yeah this was a ride for sure.
Also check out this video for help making the 7950X run cooler ruclips.net/video/qxnMy4jiruQ/видео.html
Hell yes! Thank you
Also how's the gaming performance?
Very good video. Thanks. subbed and liked.
I appreciate it! Welcome to the family!
Wow! 6000 @ 30 is nice work!
Im using a 7600x and 4 sticks of g skill ram, updated bios and enabled xmp and everything runs 6000mhz
Nice what motherboard are you using?
What motherboard
What mothermoard
What motherboard
Just built a 7950x3d, and bought the GSKill 2 x 16 at CL 28. I am very experienced with overclocking on Intel, but this is my first AMD build.
I really want to buy two more sticks since you can't get these in 2 x 32gb sticks, but I'm really concerned I wont get them to work at speed on my Asus x670e Crosshair Hero. I ended up purchasing 2 x 32gb at CL30, but after seeing your video I'm considering buying more CL 28 sticks to see if I can get it working.
Has this stayed stable for all this time, once you got it stable? Was it worth the time spent?
Appreciate the wisdom, my brother! I'm rebuilding my system tomorrow going from 5800x3d AM4 to 7950x3d on the MSI MEG x670e Ace. Do you play Star Citizen?
Haven’t played star citizen but I need to check it out. Thanks for the feedback!
My RAM doesnt have EXPO because in my mobo support page, RAM compatipility list. Most of the one with EXPO didn't officially by default had the 2 or 4 DIMM socket support. Among the few there were some ADATA that had 2/4 plus XMP and EXPO. But they were out of stock at the time. Pity cause I really liked their design. Went with G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB kit, non NEO so they have XMP only. 6400 CL32. Finger cross that when I do add the other kit in the future. They all work fine. I'll be happy to get them all 4 at 6000 at least.
I tried using the EXPO RAM-boost 5600/6000 settings after building my PC recently & it slowed boot/restart time to disturbing slows (~3 minutes or so), but it did work. So, I set it back at no EXPO & regular stock 4800mhz speeds & it boots/restarts normally again. I'm using 4x16GB (64GB) of Kingston Fury Beast 4800/6000 DDR5 with an MSI B650 Edge Wifi MB. I originally planned to do 2x16GB in my build, but the two empty memory slots bugged me for some reason, so I ordered another 2x16GB of the exact same RAM. 😆 Not like it really matters I guess, since I'm not running my PC to participate in benchmarking e-sport games & there is no need to overclock anything in my system for high/ultra-quality 1440p gaming.
Hi
Great video.
I see you are using CL30 sticks. I have CL36 Kingston 32GB (2x16GB) KF560C36BBEAK2/32 Fury Beast CLXX 6000MHz DDR5 RAM RGB. Will this work with those as well?
Confirmed Hynix A-DIE. Ryzen 7950X. ASRock X670E Steel Legend Mobo (latest bios).
Any help would be much appreciated.
use hynix a-die preset for that 6k 1.4 something
Hi
Thanks for the reply. I ended up trading my sticks in for 2x32 GB Kit. Guess I didn't hit the silicon lottery.
Was a fun learning curve though.
Interesting video. I have the same RAM as you but at 6400. At stock settings for 4x16GB sticks performance is horrible, only beating my sons 4 year old i5 by a few points.) I am tinkering with expo and speeds to see if I can get the Passmark score higher. Hmmm. Please do a Passmark video, and or post the results if you will. :-) *** Update. I just got the 4 sticks to work at 6000 Mhz, giving a Passmark score 3996 of top 98 percent. I am hoping that two 32GB sticks can do as good or better without overclocking.
I attempted to apply the same parameters as in your video but it was unsuccessful. My configuration is 7950x on Aorus x670e Xtreme, BIOS ver is F30. My 4 sticks DDR5 are also GSkill Trident Z5 Neo Expo just like yours but they are 4x32GB. With 2 DIMMS, it can easily reach 6000MT/s with EXPO enabled, however, when 4 DIMMS are installed, the speed is limited to 3600MT/s only by default. Could you please tell me what to do for my case?
It worked I got 256 GB DDR5 TO BOOT STABLE AT 6000MHZ.
After hours of messing with the bios I decided to give Ryzen master a try just like I did with my 5950x setup. I have my Corsair vengeance 64GB ram running 6600mhz currently and is stable. About to try 6800
Would it work on Intel too
@@keylanoslokj1806 Ryzen master is for AMD Ryzen
5950x is AM4. This issue is with AM5
@@ThePhrenik I know…I have a 7950x currently. I was saying after hours of messing with the bios I resolved the issue by skipping the bios and getting it done in Ryzen master
I have a 7900x3d I have been running 4 sticks on at 6000 30-38-38-30 since about a week after it came out. Using the same board and ram. I found going straight to 6000 did not work but walking in in from 5600 to 5800 to 6000 would get it to a stable state. EDIT I have M die
Nice!!!!
Did you also use the same Buildzoid timings?
I used close to the same timings, I did adjust some for stability. Usually was passing various benchmark tests but would find the occasional crash in some games which seemed to go away when timings relaxed. Mind you I was not doing in depth analysis and it was highly subjective. Another interesting thing I noticed was there is an impact on cache latency upwards of 10% improvement with with more relaxed timings. I went from a 11.7-11.8 ns on L3 down to 10.7 ns. It may seem minor but I noticed a big bump on speedway with the improved latency. So there is probably some magic ratio that exists, that if one took the time document and test various settings, but the question becomes if it becomes worthwhile beyond the challenge itself. @@magno5157
Hello - did you consider getting a single 4 x 16gb kit vs dual 2 x16gb kits? Most of the time when you want to overclock higher amounts of memory - generally it's better to have a single kit with 4 matching ram modules. Overclocking upto 32gb's of memory with 2 seperate kits should be ok. I have always liked to get a single kit with all matching modules.
Careful with cleaning your PC with compressed air. It has liquid inside it that is one of the lead causes of fried GPUs lol just a heads up. Sick build though. 3:27
When you say you switch the RAM sets around are you saying you put the pairs next to each other or did you not install correctly before?
Curious what linpack xtreme gives you. It tends to be super sensitive, though, so running *anything else* at the same time will change the results. But there's a bootable version too, like memtest!
Curious what you get with one kit at 6000, versus both kits at 6000!
*EDIT* LOL, I just heard at 19:15 that you said linpack failed. rip :(
On daisy chain RAM topology it's better to populate only 2 memory slots (A2+B2).
2x32GB DDR5 is a lot more stable than 4x16GB.
nice cooler graphics. what brand is that?
NZXT
Great video! I've got a question, maybe you can help me out: I've got 2x32 gb and 2 x 16 gb for a total of 96 gb of ram (ddr5), but the frequencies differ between the two pairs. Should I install all the ram or just keep the 2 x 32? Thanks
Just keep the two you've got in. It's not going to work with all four, and it definitely won't work with different speeds or timings, for sure.
Attempted this with exact settings on 7950x, Asrock Steel legend 670e, and gskill trident z 4x32. Can’t even get above 3600. 5200 will shut off on the reboot and default back to 3600. 4800 puts it in an endless memory training mode and I have to clear the cmos.
Hi, I own 3 Gigabyte X670E xtremes all equipped with 7950X3D's my memory of choice is 64 GB 6000Mhz @ 30-36-36-76 1.4v I also run a 7700x on an ASRock X670E Steel Legend. Just one thing to point out YCruncher = good test., Memtest86 ... Nope would not trust the results. Go with Kahu and Memtest5 if you really want to test your memory properly,, my memory initially passed testing with memtest86 but kahu and memtest5 made it error out, those tests should be run for 24 hours, if you pass those - that is a stable overclock. You have the right idea - just not the most reliable tools to achieve it, I am personally about to attempt to run up two kits of Corsair CMH64GX5M2B6000C30 which are 30-36-36-76@1.4 6000Mhz on my system running F22B, odds are it wont pass testing with kahu and memtest 5, if it does I know its stable for daily drives, if not then its time to start work.
Please let me know how it goes I have the same setup, the parameters from the video seem to make the system boot but failing the tests on memtest and y-chruncher. Games do seem to be working fine but failing tests is the risk of system corruption with bad ram OC settings.
So is an AM5 motherboard and chipset dual channel 4 slot or quad channel 4 slot?
Are there any benefits to 16 x 2 vs 8 x 4?
Can I try this if I have Intel with Lexar DDR5 6400mhz 32cl chips? Because I have the same problem that the system starts with two dice, but with 4 it doesn't want to.
i just built my new am5 setup and boy oh boy i cant get my system to run all four sticks of my corsair vengeance 6000 ddr5 ram to work and im losing my mind
Proceed with caution, it’s not guaranteed to work with 4 sticks but this is definitely a guide. Let me know how it works out!
yeah ive spent hours trying to figure it our im ready to give up lol and it sucks cause i wanted to run 64 gigs in my new system @@WiLcreatives
wonder if u get any sort of instability to report after this video. Bc running 6000 on 4stick is actually crazy
THANKS
will i be able to launch the pc and open bios with 6000mhz cl 36 2x16gb ram? (brand new build from the box)?
What was you latency between just the two sticks as opposed to the four sticks ?
I was curious about this too! Really curious what the difference was before/after, which is really the determining factor. Bootable is one thing, but fully stable is another.
I was hoping to see linpack results, which is usually the true test, but he said it failed, which isn't a good sign :(
Ive been trying to do the same thing with my nzxt n7 b650e and i finally just gave up. Had to switch kits and finally got 2 sticks @6000mhz. Its been a headache lmao
You should just do what I did. Underclock your 6000mhz down to the recommended 5200mhz and wait for the bios update allowing more stability at higher speeds
Tried and didn't work at all for me unfortunately. Still stuck on 3600MHz.
32GB x 4 / 128GB - 2 kits of (G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MT/s CL30-40-40-96 1.40V) F5-6000J3040g32G
MB: MSI MS-7D77 / MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi - latest BIOS
Tried all the settings, even starting at 3800MHz. Just doesn't work for me.
Same here man. I have 4 x 32gb G.SKILL DDR5. Same exact ones as you. Stuck at 3600MHz. When I try to enable EXPO I or EXPO II it doesn’t boot.
@@tmike200687 At two sticks, EXPO, just works as intended, 6000MT/s CL30-40-40-96 1.40V without a problem. Hoping with bios updates we can get some more MHz.
@@drakcoreoriginal Hope so too.
Do you know if your sticks are 2R? Because Dual rank requires way more patient and I think the max dual rank I have seen with 128GB on 4 sticks is 6400 MT/s, but with good time to tunning
Try to not use expo, and do custom timings, start with loose timings and increase slowly
4x16GB 5000Mhz Ryzen 7700 MSI B650-s working just with tighest timing profile and I am so upset. Guys, who had the same setup? Write me you settings if it works 6000
use memory presets
If you use 2 memory sticks, the probability of stability is certain, without the need for manual adjustments! Why use 4 sticks? I use 2 sticks 6000mhz,32gb each, in Asrock X670E TAICHI,and only adjustment was expo,6000mhz 'NATIVE' and aggressive mode!! unnecessary 4 sticks
i returned 2 sticks of 32gb ram bc i couldnt get it to work, i wish i saw this video before returning it, currently running 64gb on am5 instead of 128gb
Just remember with a new bios you loose the saved bios settings
Have your exact same ram and have so many issues with booting reliably booted good and fine for a week then not work so just stuf with 2 16 gb sticks gonna just wait till bios has more updated
Hy, after new bios,im trying 4x 32GB kinston 5600 modules but no luck. Im able to boot to windows with 48 00 5000 and 5200 but sytem is unstable all the time (with old bios, system will not start at all except 3600 speed so its step up anyway). XMP just do not work so only chance is nanual settings, any clue about numbers for kinston 32gb 5600 modules?
Bro i cant even get 2 Dims with a total of 64gb to run at 6k MT on a 7800x3D at basic EXPO profile without random freezes and audio drop outs HOW TF?!
I failed with 4 x 32gb GSkill 6000 cl32. It wouldn't boot. I wonder what I screwed up.
I cant get mine to boot with 4 sticks driving me crazy
It is a bummer that EXPO does not play well with all slots populated. that board has evena problem when the ram is populated only on the other channel too.... I hope they can fix it with BIOS updates, but I wouldn't hold my breath so early on...
Is there someone who did fixed with 4 sticks of "Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 CL36-36-36-96 1.35V" ?
Would this process work with 4 16gb Corsair 7200??
Im currently having the same issue with my RAM. I originaly had:
Kingston 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL36 FURY Beast AMD EXPO/Intel XMP 3.0
and i bought a new pack of the same ram the only diffrance was that it was RGB
Kingston 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL36 FURY Beast RGB AMD EXPO/Intel XMP 3.0
My motherborad is the:
MSI B650 Gaming Plus WIFI
I have uppdated the to newest bios: verison 7E26v13 Release Date 2023-08-11
But the PC wont even start for me, The LED light is just RED on CPU and Yellow on DRAM. I have tried putting them in diffrent slots and everyting but nothing happens.
I havent tried pressing that botton you pressed on the viedo mabye that will work?
Yes that was the clear cmos button. Were you able to get it to work?
No, i didn’t get it to work unfortunately. 🥲
I just returned the non RGB ram and kept the RGB one. 🤷🏽♂️
Good morning, I can use these settings on 2x16 cl30 6000mhz.. I wanted to reduce the latency of the RAM
I cant get mine to work 🤷🏼♂️ 4x16gb tforce delta rgb 6000 30-36-36-76, asus tuf 670e, 7800x3d. It boots in at 6000 but anytime i launch a game it crashes
Common A5 platform issues,im with aorus x670e 7950xd, 4090 ,6000 cl 30 ,bios 13d and sometimes i have very long boot time.Ram passes very fast training but vga takes so long which is so weird as everything is properly assembled.
Platinum Plan being put towards its intended use it seems...
Dude you need to buy a 4 stick kit not 2 kits of 2 sticks as they come off different RAM lines at the factory.
There is no 4 stick kits for ddr5 only for ddr4
Yeah I haven’t seen any unless I overlooked it
@@JuztZack plenty on newegg dude.
7950x3d
Xpg lancer 5600 32g*4
X670-AORUS-ELITE-AX
Same settings boot successfully but unstable can't pass memory test
So I’m working on my first build with a Amd 7 7800x3d with teamgroup ddr5 32gb 6000 mhz what do I set my ram to when I enter bios 😂
Same problem
4x16gb g skill z5 neo ( bought twice 2x16 package)
Motherboard asrock x670e steel legend
Bios updated, expo activated but bios won't take changes
It runs at 4800
Is this ram meant to work as 2 sticks only in dual channel in order to get 6000mhz+ ??
You should try the manual timings. Definitely takes some patience. 4 stick me with AM5 is just finicky
@WiLcreatives I will probably return 2x16gb , pc stays stable at 6000 mhz with 2 sticks. 32gb seem enough nowadays
and now you can get 128gb with latest bioses :)
Sadly its not working i have 7800x3d mai mag b650 tomahawk wifi motherboard with latest bios , i bought 4x 16 gb corsair argb 6000mhz cl30 ram , i put excacly same timings like him (on msi they are just in different places but you can find them all) and i cant even get to bios after sering this values , my ram go to defaults 3600mhz with 4 stocks and 4800 with 2 sticks, i can go to 6000mhz with expo when i use 2 sticks , its bad that you must be pro user to even get your pc working at speeds what you paid for , not so long ago you just assembly pc turn on cmp and it was working for years , im startong regeting go ryzen even if performace in games is unbeatable by same price intel
I have the same mobo and cpu and same kind of ram, it’s just g.skill trident ram instead. I am going to try this and see if it works
Is it possible to tune 6000mhz Ram to up to 7200mhz?
Kannst du auch den B4 GC bzw. d4s testen?
do 4x16 gb work with this?
I use G.Skill flares 6000mhz 32-38-38-96 ram... Would the same timings work?
Flare is the same as the rest of their ram just without rgb.
Reply with the model of your ram kit.
@@WiLcreatives I tried to send the amazon link but youtube kept deleting it.
G.SKILL Flare X5 Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL32-38-38-96 1.35V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM - Matte Black (F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5)
@@WiLcreatives Any update my man, been having trouble searching for the right timings and settings myself. All the stuff I find is either outdated or not for my ram.
@@TheStrayHALOMAN just use Buildzoid's hynix ddr5 ryzen 7000 timings.
I have corsair vengeance RGB 32(16GBx2) 4 modules
I can’t even boot with xmp enabled 6400Mhz CL32
Only at stock it work
Any idea how to fix it?
Same issue I have did you figure it out?
i got myself 128gb (4x32gb) 6400 32-36-36 Ram and my 7600 cant boot unless i run the ram on auto which will go with 3600mhz... i cant even load the profile for 6400 for voltage and timings and then manually set the speed to 4800. it wont boot :( mobo is an asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS
is these voltage values is safe for cpu and mobo?
cuz 1.4v seems scary innit?
@@mclovin_666it’s fine for ddr5
Update to the last Bios, AMD cap some voltages and the Agesa updates make it work way better with 4 sticks and with faster ram
I’m still struggling to get it to 6000mt/s, if anyone could help.
Would this work with the Gigabyte X670E AORUS PRO X?
Yes. I got 4 Sticks in the Aorus Pro X working.
Same RAM, same timings, but on a Strix B650E. Can’t get it to post at 6000 :(
Ooof that sucks. Try these timings Buildzoid Ram Timings for AM5 - ruclips.net/video/dlYxmRcdLVw/видео.html
Can you put 4 sticks of ram in x670e-e?
Actualy 5600mhz 30cl (g.skill trident neo 6000mhz with ryzen 7950x3d) 128 gb. I cant reach 6000mhz and 5800 also.
I have 7950x3d 4090 gpu kingstone 6000mhz fury beast and asus rog 670e-f wifi motherboard, when i turn EXPO i or ii or whatever to 6000mhz or 5600mhz the system boot slow but dont show up the bios menu anymore, just start up to desktop , and on 6000mhz on AIDA when i try to stress memory , instant stays it failed, i dont know what to do
I have the latest bios update
@@MiciiMiciihave you got it to work?
@@dr.hannibal8338 no:(
Will this work with 7800x3d cpu
Is there a way to speed up when the GPU and peripherals get powered on? 9:45
I can't get mine going with the same timings on 4 x 16.
So I have a msi B650m-A wifi pro with a am5 ryzen 5n7600x with 64gb (4x16gb) kingston fury ram 6000mhz cl36-38-38 ddr5 ram an i cannot get all 4 sticks to boot at 6k it doesnt boot an if it does it freezes on the msi screen before it gets to the wondows login
I’m can’t get mine to boot at all. Not sure what I can do
Hi All...Has anyone had success running 192GB at 6000 with 7950x?
Can anyone tell me which model is the same A-Die but without LED?
i can't get m 7700X to boot with 4 sticks at 6000MHz at all.
It's not DDR5 ram, the problem is the motherboard that doesn't take dual rank on all channels, only single rank, DDR5 32GB is Dual Rank, make sure you get a motherboard that can do dual rank all channels, I have the Asus X670E Crosshair Hero and it does dual rank all channels so I have 4 Sticks with Expo enabled, No Issues.
@@hdz77 I’m using the Asrock B650E Steel Legend WiFi. The latest BIOS update says it can up to 9200 and that is total BS. It runs sometimes at 6000 but some times it takes forever to boot with the RAM training and it goes down to 3600. I’m using XMP 3 which is the same as that BS EXPO gimmick.
@@hdz77 thats the mobo I just bought and plan on using 4 sticks that equal 32gb (8 gigs per stick). So your saying you have had no issues with this mobo when it comes to ram? Im hoping cause I was so debating on returning my sticks and just get 2 sticks that equals 32gigs. I just find having 2 sticks to be an eye sore haha. I need all 4 slots taken up.
@@hdz77how much RAM do you have total? I can't see to get 4x32GB working on my Asus Hero with EXPO enabled. How did you get 4x working?
@@GoldwireIT I have 64GB, I got 5600 CL28 From GSkill, which is actually faster for gaming cause of the Lower CL28, that's how I did it.