Zach's Experience With OCD - The TryPod Ep. 80
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Them introing the topic of mental health issues and then diving hard into burger talk is very much me in therapy
All of us! Haha
Me going on and on about funny things and then my therapist asking me how my body image was in the last 2 weeks and me realizing "oh right, I have problems".
Same
Oh I get that. They ask me what's been going on and I delve into a story where I fed some birds and then was crying on the sidewalks of philly lmao
Lmao same dude
“I don’t hate happiness. I’ve just learned to live with sadness” -Eugene
Does anyone know when he talked about this?
Edit: I’ve found it, it’s at 55:10
I felt this in my soul when he said it
It’s something hard to admit.
I have watched this video a few times and every time I pause at that moment and relate and send Eugene a mental (not hug) knowing look and nod. In addition to the general way I relate, I also lost a father figure this year, like he did, and really understood the time Eugene took prioritizing time in Korea with family. It’s extremely crushing. You are not alone, Eugene! We are with you and inspired by you. ❤️
He just put my life into words.
The lack of toxic masculinity in all their videos is the reason why I’m proud to be a fan
Lol
@@FluffyMatzahBalls ree
Dunno why but this comment kinda got me teared up a bit
... they just sound like normal fun guys to me- they have no toxic masculinity but its not something id bring up
Then again i guess it would stand out to people who arent used to seeing guys like this
@@Tung.e.e Especially now!
Miles bringing donuts because it’s a potentially sad episode is so wholesome
Actually it’s really harmful eating disorder behavior
@@sawyer0815 oh wow 🙄
@@sawyer0815 as someone in recovery from an binge eating disorder, bulimia and anorexia. (Yes, all diagnosed by a licensed psychiatrist) I don't understand what you mean? It can lead to dangerous territory, however it's a simple fact that eating releases neurotransmitters, which is why we often find ourselves looking for food when we are bored. Food is a stimulus that produces dopamine and serotonin. So it makes since that when discusses serious topics, you would want something comforting that makes you happy. The only time it would become an unhealthy behavior is when you over indulge or under eat. When your eating becomes, disordered. It's fine to treat yourself every once in a while especially when dealing with such emotional topics, as long as it doesn't become a habit, which is the hardest part.
As a Black, bisexual Male who hasn't gotten the courage to go to therapy, I really needed this episode. Thank you guys for being so transparent, it's much appreciated.
I don't know you, but that genuinely makes me happy to read. Therapy can be such an amazing tool.
As an Asian bisexual female in a super Catholic family, I can tell you that you've got this! Also, watch Queer Eye if you don't already. Changed my life.
I did CBT and it was the best thing I ever decided to do.
Please go. You’ll benefit so much!!!!
I want to like your comment but it's at 420. I hope you're able to find a therapist when/if you're ready that sees and understands you!
when eugene talked about being a high functioning person and not being able to recognise something is wrong is so so true....I experienced it in high school and I'm still struggling w it and it took me 4 years to realise that maybe something was actually wrong and I wasn't just lying to myself for "attention" (even though that makes absolutely no sense)
It is the same for me and honestly this is the worst. At some point you just have a total breakdown and if it wasn't for my friends I would almost certainly be dead right now. For me the mindset of "Oh, this isn't real and I'm such an impostor" was so hard to shake off. It took me 5 years to realize that something was wrong, but then I listend to my friends and I went to therapy and got diagnosed. I had severe depression all this time but even when the therapist told me the diagnosis I didn't believe her and I just thought that I was such a crybaby and that maybe I had just exagerated when talking to her even though I knew for sure that I actually left the worst bits out in order to not be put in a clinic.
Realizing that something isn't right is hard. Especially if you get a mental health problem during your teenage years where you start to forget your childhood, so you mind goes: "Well, this is probably normal. Hasn't it always been like that? Oh you know, wanting to die every day is just how everybody feels" and once you realize it isn't normal, it takes even more time to realize that you are allowed to be happy.
It is easy to tell others that they deserve to be happy but learning that the same is true for yourself takes a lot of time and it is a journey that I guess I will be on for the rest of my life.
PS: Sorry for my english. It is hard enough to put it in words in my mother tongue let alone a foreign language.
@@nanb4146 firstly, never apologize for your language, we know more that one language..that's so cool !!
And I completely agree w you....I still haven't gotten a professional diagnosis because therepy and mental health services in my country are too expensive for me right now...but it definitely took me so long to even realize something was wrong because all this time I thought I was being "an attention seeking b word" if I spoke about my problems....it was only after I spoke to my best friend last year and she told me that its not normal and I shouldn't be feeling like this everyday that I even realised I needed some help.
but I really hope in the future I can get better and look back on this as a minute part of me that I can conquer.
anyway enough rambling !! happy mental health day to you...keep fighting !! :)
Honestly, this happened to two ppl in life.
My friend in high school knew something was wrong but got denied seeing the school therapist because her grades were too high. Admin and counselors assumed she was mentally fine since her grades were all A’s. The same thing happened to a family member too. There is this stigma in academia, especially around middle and high school, that assumes if you have high grades that you are mentally sound. A lot of us just use academics to escape our personal problems.
yeah it took someone in 8th grade to trigger me for me to understand that what was going on wasn’t going on with many of my classmates. it was hard bc people didn’t realize i was in distress bc i was able to maintain face, and since nobody else acknowledged it, i didn’t. until this one boy started talking to me about it. once i was aware of it, it just got worse bc i started to realize that ppl i love didn’t see what the very obvious symptoms that had been appearing since i was young.
As a therapist, imma tell you the fat feeling is really a feeling of shame/guilt. It’s really hard to get people to reword and relearn fat is not a feeling.
Can’t remember the exact quote from dr. Heidi green but:
You can be proud of what your family had come through but also still healing from the wounds they give you. Your parents did the best they could and their choices can still hurt you.
This this this this this. There's always a deeper layer.💖
Completely agree, but also I completely get the whole "I feel fat" thing. Soo..I think it's still valid.
Um... A lot of people's parents DON'T do the best they can. In fact a lot of parents use "I'm doing the best I can" or "I did the best I could" as an excuse so they can feel better about secretly knowing that they did not do their best. Generalizations like that are harmful to people who have suffered at the hands of parents who they know didn't do their best. It can be detrimental to somebody's healing process to tell them "your parents did the best they could for you" when it's not the truth. I'm very disappointed that any therapist would think that using invalidating generalizations is appropriate.
Not harmful when helping a 6 year old handle it. And their parents best is shit.
@@Lindseyisloony I think in this case they’re framing it from the context of this story. Your point is very valid though. Hopefully the OP is also aware of that, but I’d hope their training would call for a different response in a situation more like what you describe.
Eugene talking about how siblings can unintentionally exacerbate trauma, definitely resonated. This episode was really well handled. Everyone added something I found useful. 💖 Also being stoned during an anxiety attack is the absolute worst experience 😩
I recently discussed with my family the mean names kids called me on the playground when I was young, and when I mentioned the name kids called me most often, my sister said, "I think I came up with that one." Then I realized how much of my negative image of myself has been altered by what my sister has said to me, and honestly, fuck her.
Agree with the rest as well. Ha!
When Eugene said "That sounds crazy," that made me so sad. Glad Keith was so quick to affirm him and assure him that his feelings are valid.
When??
@@WYIN98 The conversation starts at 16:38. Then Keith says that at 17:00 :)
It sounds like PTSD to me.
@@kyndramb7050 maybe not? He has a history of anxiety and depression which can lead into paranoia especially since he’s famous as well
All feelings are valid!!!!!
Keith mentioning phone anxiety made me feel so much better about mine. I tried to explain it to my dad the other day and he didn’t understand why I was so scared to call and order food
yeah fr I was supposed to call to reschedule a class and the whole time I was just AAAAAAA
I deal with just overall anxiety and depression but don’t see anybody for it because of money and lack of support. I have learned how to handle situations when I do have panic attacks or depression episodes but it’s probably not the healthiest thing to deal with it by myself haha
I use to be a lot more uncomfortable to talk on the phone, but I am okay now tho I still prefers in person conversations better.
as a high-functioning depressive asian in anorexia recovery, the way eugene speaks about his experiences is really concerning. "i am a success story" because he hid such a large part of himself for years? the slight pride (because it is unavoidable when you are caught up in the eating disorder) when he spoke about only needing coffee because otherwise, he felt disgusting? i recognize that. i lived that. i hope he reaches for genuine, effective help. you can't get out of that by yourself.
i really love eugene, partially because i see so much of myself in him. even now, in recovery, i still feel more comfortable living with the sadness than reaching for any sort of happiness. i express myself through blog-like posting and then i move on and do whatever i need to do to be effective. i really hope he finds recovery-focused communities.
I found it incredibly heartwarming that Zach felt comfortable enough to mention he was going to straighten the donut box for some reason? Like they're all talking about mental health and their personal experiences with it, and idk it was just cute that they're all so accepting and now get to understand each other more.
When Eugene talked about people of color not really acknowledging mental health- and I don’t have this opinion- but my dad always said that depression was something white people made up so they didn’t have to go to work. Tbh I’m pretty sure my mom is on the spectrum but if I say anything about it My family starts freaking out saying I’m a horrible daughter for wanting to put her in a mental hospital which is such a jump! I’m thinking more of idk like therapy but they always jump to being “put away”
Victoria Pena unfortunately as a therapist who is latinx, I view myself more Mexican American, but this was a real thing that happened isn’t he history of mental health especially for women. It’s harder when there is truth to the fear. There is a lot of work decolonizing therapy, and trying to work therapy with culturally appropriate treatment so maybe soon they will not see it as soo evil. Also in California, in my county, while it’s in my scope of practice to hospitalize, we have a crisis agency that has the power to do so all therapist can’t just force people into a hospital. I have to call someone, they come out assess, talk to their boss and maybe hospitalize. Also if you are in Cali, one of our mental health facility burned down in the fire 2 years back so there is less beds so they are hospitalizing less in my area.
My family is from Central America and they viewed mental disorders with the same skeptic and fearful attitude as yours. When they would make comments about how therapy leads to “getting put away” , I would teasingly respond that fear of irrational consequences is a sign of anxiety 😆, when they would say that it was an excuse for weakness, I would point out that the brain is just another organ in the body that requires regular check ups and can be susceptible to illnesses and medical treatment for illnesses for any other organ is just common sense. I began going to therapy and I would make it a point to share how much insight and relief I felt after each session and slowly my family started coming around. My cousins and an aunt now regularly go to therapy and my family is more open to mental health conversations.
Vesper Holly that is amazing! For me it’s something I struggled with as well and I never thought of our minds as a part of our brains strangely. So videos like this really help to get that thought process started and maybe I can start to have that conversation in my family too.
My dad is Puerto Rican and they use to put people with mental health issues or developmental issues in literally human size cages and put them on the porch. They were referred to as “crazy” or “different.” I’m not sure where you family is from but maybe it’s a fear they have based on something they’ve seen as a child
My father was the same way for a good chunk of my life. He also had me convinced that meds would turn me into a zombie, when they have the opposite effect. My mom is still... not really sold on any of it but she tries for me, and at least no one jumps to institutionalization anymore. Also he’s dead now, which overall... net win tbh
edit to say that we’re white, just related to this comment
OCD is just the worst. I’m constantly convinced I’m an awful person because I have terrible intrusive thoughts immoral things. The pandemic hit hard and triggered some new themes.
Me too, I was diagnosed with it but I don’t completely agree with the diagnosis. I just have the awful intrusive thoughts and feelings and I just have no idea how to help them :( it’s so ugly, I hope you get the help you need
SirKolor its one of the symptoms yes, but ocd usually also has more to it than just intrusive thoughts. if you have been experiencing them more often, try to find someone who you can describe them to without judgement
SirKolor it’s usually the part that causes the compulsion, so it’s the obsessive part, or well part of it because obviously there’s a lot to it. I hope you all get help and feel better soon 💜
SirKolor of course, sorry, i didnt mean to say you dont have other symptoms.
Yes! I've been terrified of jail/ prison since I was a kid. I think that I am a bad person so when bad things happen, I deserve them (well, OCD tells me that i deserve it). My main intrusive thought is actually contamination (that I will get sick or get someone else sick) but then, second main thought is about breaking the law or harming people.
When I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder at 15, I found out that Carrie Fisher also had the same disorder. When I realized Princess Leia struggled like I did, I didn’t feel alone anymore and it changed my outlook on life!!
I also felt the same when I found out about Stephen fry having bipolar and watching his documentary. He was the one person I felt understood me
Am I the only one that my eyes watered when Keith asked Zach what things still bothers him. That was such a warm... and sincere... and curious question and I :((
Mental health is so taboo in Asian culture. I can only speak my experience as an Afghan/Uzbek American. As of this year, I started going to therapy and have been acknowledging my mental state more and it's been very helpful.
Congratulations on making it to therapy! That's huge.
I honestly wish Keith would not film the Eat the Menu all in one day (if it's a place with a large menu). It's not fun to watch him uncomfortable and it makes his opinions skewed when he's full and still forcing himself to taste things.
ik. I feel bad when they upload Keith eating the menu both on Wednesday and Saturday especially when it is a VERY large menu. He has stomach problems (constipation) after eating EVERYTHING. i feel so bad :(
I agree 100%. He's eating healthier solely because Eat The Menu made him realize how awful fast food is for you. Tape eat the menu over two days, then edit both segments together. Day 1 is comparing the main food items (burgers/pizza); Day 2 is comparing all the sides and desserts. It's not fun to watch Keith get the meat sweats and brain fog from food to where he can't concentrate anymore. It's torture to watch and sometimes I can't watch.
Agreed. The food coma is a bit funny, but when it gets to the point where he's visibly in pain and still eating, I start to feel really awful for him. I'll sometimes mute the video or skip ahead 5-10 seconds at a time to avoid the more uncomfortable parts.
Yes! I feel so bad for him! I would much rather have “sober” funny Keith than “food drunk” in pain Keith! If he’s doing it for comedy he doesn’t need to since he’s funny on his own! I hate seeing people in pain :(
But that's when he say the funniest shit
I love hearing Zack talk about his chronic illness and thanking his body. Chronic illness is a bitch and I’m always yelling at my body for stopping me or holding me back, but he has such a healthier way of handling that. I should try thanking my body and see what happens
Same, I feel like Zach's underlying positivity and empathy really helped pull this episode through.
When Eugene is talking about the "if you are high functioning you can't be that mentally ill" mindset I was like holy shit I fell into that trap as an adult!
Keith’s panic attack story actually made me really emotional despite his comical delivery. Definitely been there and could relate too hard, and Keith, I’m sorry you went through that.
I felt that.
He said that people with panick disorders often don't say anything, and I'm like that. At times when I used to have them in short period of times, and one time I just gave in. I was having a panic attack but didn't wanna talk about it and have the group worry about me so I stayed in the conversation, tried being funny and inside it was crippling, I was squeezing my nails with my palm, it was so surreal.
Same...
Me too. Had a similar experience with a panic attack too, I was trying to watch a movie on putlocker when I was 15 and a fake hacking thing popped up and I was so scared that I had a panic attack and felt like I couldn’t breathe. I had to run out of my house and was wheezing for a while before I calmed down
Time stamp?
@@cheesy-lps7004 it is an hour long podcast I simply cannot find it but I highly suggest listening to the whole thing
Can we just take a minute to thank the try guys for the pure amount of content they release weekly? My quarantine mental health really benefits from the happiness they provide. Thanks for the ~feelings~
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Right! Every time I'm feeling blue, I start watching Try Guys, and feel better right away 😊
keith, in regard to being nervous about phone calls. you've mentioned once on the podcast that as a child if you were at a friend's house and forgot to do a chore at home, your mom would call and tell you to come home to do it. you mentioned how as time went on even hearing the phone ring at the friend's house would cause you stress. this became a negative stimulus and which is now why you become nervous/anxious when it comes to unknown calls.
with that being said, thank you for discussing these kinds of topics today. i am at such a low point in my life and it's nice to know i'm not alone.
I'm only nine minutes in, but Zach I've never heard anyone else talk about what you called physical symmetry. When I've brought it up to anyone they don't get it, and I've thought that it might be an OCD symptom but never fully looked into it and didn't really have language around it. I'm 23 years old and this is the first time I've EVER heard someone else talk about it, and I've been experiencing it since I was probably eight years old. (My earliest memory of this is wanting to touch a lady's furry purse in a store, did so sneakily, and then she walked off before I could touch it with my other hand. It clearly still bothers me lol). Thank you.
Update: at 36-ish minutes, the line "I just like touching stuff" got me good, because same. I always have to feel things, but then even it out with other fingers or the other side.
I thought i was “crazy” for doing this since i was a kid (it just comes in waves now along with my other ocd symptoms) and even when I got an OCD diagnosis i never mentioned it cuz I didn’t realize it was related until just recently. Its good to feel not as alone
I relate to your comment so strongly. Listening to him so accurately describe this "thing" I have to do that no one else gets SHOOK me
Oh my goodness FINALLY. I’ve always had that (since I was 4 but my parents said they noticed it when I was younger than 4). I never knew what to call it, and it’s very nice to have a name for it. I’m 14 now and it’s still a huge part of my life and it’s manifesting in new forms. I’ll feel not a pain, but a pressure on a part of my body, say the bottom of my foot. Then I have to press it and then I’ll feel it in the other foot and then I have to press it for it to go away. I’ve come to avoid touching things that it’ll be hard to touch with my other side or that will move away so I won’t get a chance to touch it again. It comes in waves, so I had one beautiful year without feeling it at all (or maybe I just didn’t notice) but it always comes back and I hate it. Any tips for how to get through it?
I’ve had this my whole life and never had a way to say it
Sahara Asher I don’t really have advice on how to handle it, but mine also comes in waves. I just kind of try to avoid things I can’t replicate the feeling of, or find an approximation to even it out. Like if there’s cold metal from the arm of a chair on one side, I might lean the other elbow on the table if it’s the same material or cold.
I really appreciated the conversation around being “high functioning” because I only recently realized the extent of my mental illnesses and how long they have affected me, mostly due to how I was a “super smart kid” or “gifted” or “mature” so people never knew how deeply I was struggling, nor did they think I needed help, a break, tlc, etc
Meee too
Same
I identify with this so much. My "high functioning" self really took a deep dive after freshman year of college when I had a very traumatic event happen in my life. Now I'm still trying to recover and it has been about 4 years. It's crazy how you think you are okay and depression is something other people feel but not you. I didn't realize that I was experiencing panic attacks at a young age until after my trauma happened 4 years ago. I just thought I was fine and nothing was wrong. In a way, my trauma has been helping me heal by bringing up everything that I haven't healed from. It won't let me just push it down anymore because I have so much to trauma in my past.
Same! I was always some who got good grades, even though for much of high school I had a terrible time doing readings, I was always up late finishing things because I could never bring myself to do them until the last minute, I was constantly stressed, and I always fell asleep, got distracted, or zoned out in class. When I got to college, my old coping strategies and hacks that I used to get things done faster stopped working because there was so much more of an emphasis on reading and writing. I got my first ever C in a class, I turned in a paper 19 days late because I just couldn't formulate the thoughts to write it, and my mental health suffered heavily as a result. At the end of that semester I talked to a psychiatrist and was able to get a prescription for an ADHD medication, which has helped me so much since then. ADHD was never something people thought I could have because I was "high functioning." My doctor actually said the words "I refuse to consider it" one time when I asked about struggling to focus on homework, and he reason was that my grades were good. And that's not even considering the social aspects either. I went through a lot of friend groups over the years, and I always felt like I was annoying everyone around me because I struggled a lot with interrupting and telling irrelevant stories and just generally not being good at reading social cues, so it would always get to a point where my friend groups no longer wanted to include me. It's made me very insecure, and I have pretty severe fear of rejection/rejection sensitivity because of it. Sorry for the rant, I didn't mean for this to be so long but I just kinda kept going lol
Same. Depression was eating me inside. Even though I had the highest grade in the class, I was deeply struggling to stay alive. Years of therapy and it's a been a bit better lately. Still dealing with some issues but each step at a time.
Disordered eating and unhealthy food talk is also v common in Latin households (like mine). So thankful for Eugene talking about his experiences, and giving the shoutout to other poc.
ikr. my mom would constantly make comments at me. right now im steadily losing weight but she still makes comments like "youre getting fat again!!!" even if i had JUST finished eating. its so annoying
Same
In their eyes. We eat. We’re fat. If we don’t eat. We’re too skinny. WHAT THE HEAK DO YOU WANT
Eugene talking about eating disorders means a lot to me, especially during the pandemic. Makes me feel a little less alone in asking my support system "am I allowed to eat this" 20 times a day
zach saying there are things he is still hiding from his friends is so important. there is something so reassuring about knowing that you are not obligated to constantly keep explaining yourself, revealing everything, exposing yourself completely. and the way the rest of them accepted it is perhaps even more important, because they understand they aren't entitled to that information despite having this in-depth discussion and being such close friends.
It was so refreshing to see Eugene open up so much this episode. I'm glad that he felt comfortable enough to share his struggles with us especially coming from his family background and knowing that his mother listens the podcast.
I was literally JUST diagnosed with adult adhd THIS MORNING and wow wow thank you universe for lining this up because I needed it
I was also diagnosed with ADHD this past spring during quarantine when my classes moved online!
Adhd squad!! Getting a diagnosis & then learning all about this stuff was so great & helpful for me
I also got diagnosed with ADHD recently
@@carolinec.7721 yup, I thought I had my adhd finally under control and was going to finish my school last july. Only for the pandemic to hit and I sort of did online school till july, but now I've taken a year off to just work. It caused way to much stress and not enough stability. So I'll just wait till its all over to finish my last year
You ve had it all your life. ADHD is passed on genetically. Most likely your parents have it too.
I was diagnosed OCD a bit over a year ago and Zach is putting words to the feelings I’ve been dealing with for most of my life. Whoa
As a person actually living in Asia who has gone through several rounds of counselling, the stigma here talking about mental health is really strong because there are few people who would be willing to talk about mental health openly. Gen Z is changing this tho
Zack's Native advertisement, "Anytime I give Keith a hug, and I get nestled into his armpit, it's really nice." Had me laughing so hard.
But, on a more serious note, thank you for opening up with all of us. Knowing that influential people have struggles too, helps me feel normal.
This couldn’t have come on a better day. I’m at rock bottom and that’s coming from someone who’s emotionally intelligent, who has a support network and a Psychology degree in her pocket. It’s rough. I literally have people messaging me all the time telling me they admire what I have achieved and who I am, and I admire all of that about myself too, and yet still being educated and being intelligent and empathetic in this world is causing me so much pain. I’m 26, sitting in my own apartment in Paris, working my own hours, two degrees, in a long term relationship, spending my life traveling the world and yet here I am sobbing alone for days on end. I can barely type this right now, because I feel so devastated and cannot stop crying. Things are so dismal, in a way they’ve never been before, so it’s hard to even cope with the tools I normally turn to.
I'm a Physics grad student who just achieved her dreams of moving out (Conservative-Asian+mental&physical-disabilities)
Yes, its rough and am losing it even though I thought it should be going well.
Its so hard being a person right now. You are doing amazing
Im sorry hun, but remember, education and all the support in the world cant help depression sometimes (esp. if its a chemical imbalance as you know).. Sometimes I feel it's harder being emotionally intelligent w/ severe depression because even knowing it's an illness, I feel guilty feeling so unhappy when I have so much..
eberry5694 keep your head up, you are doing great! I was struggling with my mental health before this happened and it has been so hard for me to even shower and get dressed sometimes. You are not alone and also you are amazing!
i don't know if i was meant for this world tbh. i was just born, i never asked to be, and ever since then i'm supposed to follow all the norms and expectations people have of me. add that to a world that's largely preoccupied with money, wealth, and status, and it's just not a world i've enjoyed being in. there've been good moments of course, but that's in the minority. it always amazes me when people find others who can accept them for who they are and aren't fazed by the flaws or 'inadequacies'.
This episode is truly so powerful, because it really shows how everyone is broken in some way and that you’re not alone with whatever is breaking you. Thank you so much for sharing such personal stories, it really means the world
I think broken is the wrong word here
Almost liked your comment, then realized it ended in 5. Damn OCD. Here's a comment about it instead.
"The limit does not exist" Cady Haren, Mean Girls.
yes i was thinking what zach said about everyone having “things” that they deal with. like you can experience anxiety without having an anxiety disorder and you can probably also occasionally experience obsessive compulsive behaviors without having ocd!
Everyone has moments when they are very stressed and need certain routines to feel less stressed. I think it becomes a disorder when its a problem in your daily life
You all literally just motivated me to go eat for the day
I'm happy you made that decision for yourself! You are in control ❤
Eyyy me too, disordered eating gang rise up
That's really good!😊 Enjoy it, you deserve it everyday!🤞😁
literally same ❤️
niccee. happy that you did that today!
sending virtual hugs if you want it lol ༼ つ ◕‿◕ ༽つ
As a high functioning depressed person, I highly relate to Eugene. I have body image issues, imposter syndrome and all of these things that make me work A LOT more than I should. I'm not working because I'm hardworking. I'm working because I feel like like I need to make up for something lacking in me.
23:19 when keith talks about his experince during Jack n the box video!
when Eugene started talking about eating disorders I started crying I relate so much about using excuses and quarantine
❤ You are worth more than a number on a scale or a clothing size!
ZACH! Trick for keeping loose doors and drawers closed! Put a bit of adhesive magnets on the door and the cabinet and it’ll stay shut ❤️
YAS!
29:45
Hearing Eugene talk about being high functioning and depressed hit me straight in the gut. I relate so fucking much. I did well in school, sure, but I also showed up everyday to school wanting to die and feeling bad for people who had to look me in the face because I felt so unworthy and ugly. I was so depressed and yet no one ever knew. Its amazing what you can use to hide depression, especially when you have good grades.
Eugene: AND THEN THE DIGIMON GET SO HOT
Keith: SCARY
Eugene: oh....yeah...scary.....but hot!
Ned's "everything is learnable" speech made me tear up
It was Keith's
I was diagnosed with OCD 6 years ago and it gets me so mad people have no idea what ocd is
People assume just wanting your room clean is ocd 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I have Aspergers Syndrome and anxiety (specifically anxiety about breathing as I have severe asthma) and I so related to Eugene’s high functioning comments. I’m a top student and I also do a lot outside of school and I’m almost obsessively well behaved, so I appear to be so ‘well’ and clever etc. But under the surface I’m really struggling. And no one has any idea so I so relate to what Eugene said and this is such a good podcast and I think it’s great that you all have been so sharing.
hey I'm also autistic and managed to fly under the radar for years by being a good student, and therapy really helps. I have a lot of anxiety and stress bc of some emotional dysregulation (every emotion is A Lot and I generally only feel one at a time) and some pretty bad intrusive thoughts and perseverance issues, and just getting skills to help with that, even if it's just accepting that rn I feel shitty, has really improved my mental health
I desperately love Ned talking about his support system helping him to realize how slippery a slope it is to fall into addiction, and how important it can be to have someone to lean on in times when you're at your lowest. Not everyone has that kind of access to love and support and it's really impactful to see how it doesn't discriminate. If you're a human being, you're susceptible. I wish we as a society could focus more of our attention and care on building community resources for mental health issues and solutions instead of making it such a taboo topic of discussion.
Love you guys, I appreciate the work you do to make this world a little better.
today i learned maybe we aren’t so different after all. thank you guys for opening up. zach’s story really resonates with me, something i do compulsively is chew the inside of my lips to the point where they’re sore and bleeding, a sign of OCD. thank you for reminding me to check in with my therapist. ❤️
I also do this and always thought i was super weird, i do it when I'm focused on something and don't even know it's happening.
I know I don't have OCD, but i do have ADHD and I think it's just kind of a fidget that happens to be harmful
I have ADD and chronic anxiety, so this episode is very calming and important to me. Thank you guys for talking about this kind of stuff ❤
ADHD with comorbid dysthymia (persistent depressive disorder) and an unnamed anxiety disorder here. These kinds of talks are SO IMPORTANT! So many people struggle with mental health concerns and we're just now finally getting to the point where it's a relatively normal thing to talk about.
ADHD. I used to have major anxiety but not anymore 😁
@@tarshgambhir9935 Congrats man!! 💪
ADHD and PTSD, here.
I’m in the same boat as you. ADHD plus anxiety. Virtual hugs to you all!
I do the whole “symmetry” thing with my body too and I never really thought I might have ocd until now. As a kid I’d hold my breath until I could touch/move one side of my body EXACTLY the same as the other. I’ve gotten in under control though thankfully
It’s not about control but about letting go ...
When Eugene went into being a high functioning person with a mental illness I really understood what he meant. It all really hit home and made me feel less alone when Zack mentioned how that façade can come crumbling down when faced with an obstacle or some form of failure.
Also when Eugene went into talking about how mental illness is taboo in Asian households I find that true with Hispanic/Mexican households as well. I grew up in a Hispanic household and when I told my mom multiple times that I thought I was depressed she just told me I was ungrateful and that I need to be thankful for things. My family doesn’t really believe in mental illnesses like depression or anxiety but it’s very real. It’s difficult living in that type of environment especially when you just want your emotions that you don’t quite understand to be validated. Thank you guys so much for making this episode of the trypod it’s very needed and I think it touched a lot of people’s hearts. Thank you
I'm Black (African) and have the exact same family situation. I live with them because I'm too depressed to work or function much at all, and they still view it as me being ungrateful, immature, and lacking in ambition. It's worse because my mother is a literal doctor who has worked in a psyche ward, but she somehow still believes that depression either isn't really real or is only real if you're extremely, extremely depressed and can't move or are weeping all the time, because that was what she saw in the psyche ward. She doesn't believe me because I can shower myself and eat and even having told her I'm literally suicidal she still doesn't take me seriously. I honestly hate being alive and I can't do anything to fix it because I can't get therapy without her help and she just doesn't really believe me in any meaningful way. I'm not even 'high functioning', I'm just useless and can't do anything and I don't even have a diagnosis to prove that it's really depression and not just my own ineptitude.
I played the flute for 14 years and I catch myself absently running through scales with my fingers when I’m thinking or stressed. Good to know I’m not alone!
I'm playing cello and Piano and I'm doing that too! (the sound and movement apparently annoys people when I'm tapping on tables or books / running my fingers up and down my pen like it's a cello string, that's how I really noticed) and I CAN'T listen to music without moving my fingers! Like, I keep instinctively guessing the spaces between the notes I hear and "play" the melody in the air. Both hands, chords and all. I get so many weird looks when walking down the street😅🤣
I do the same. I learned to play tabla in school and I absent-mindedly start practicing on my thighs, especially in the exam halls when I'm thinking of an answer or if I finish early and can't leave the room yet. I get such dirty looks from the invigilators!! LOL
I only played for a year and I am still doing it almost 14 years later. Its a self-soothing behavior.
Ned really missed out on making a “Hermio-knee” joke 😅
Kelly Blaine ya got me!
I also have OCD. I have more issues with intrusive thoughts and a lot more mental compulsions. It’s always interesting to hear other people talk about their OCD because each person is so different.
I literally got diagnosed with anxiety at first because I had no physical compulsions. Getting diagnosed was refreshing though, thought I was a monster 😅
I have intrusive thoughts too. I think OCD is one of the first things I realized was slightly off about me. I’ve noticed itsince like 2nd grade.
As an Asian, when I experienced having anxiety and depression, I really thought it wouldn't happen to me despite knowing and advocating for mental health, I didn't believe that I deserved help coz those in my immediate environment aren't supportive of mental health, so much so that it made me doubt if I really did have anxiety and depression. It's such an effed up thing to grow in that kind of environment.
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I also have OCD and depression. I have what is called Dermatillomania or excursion, which is a form of OCD, and it is a skin picking disorder. As a child I would rip the skin off my fingers and lips until I bled and then in fifth grade when I started to get acne, I picked at that instead. Now, at 20 years old, I continue to pick the skin on my face and often find myself getting really upset over the fact that I may never have nice skin. There are treatments, I’d need therapy and medication, but my family never takes my mental health seriously so I have no way to go about keeping it in check...
I'm so sorry about all you're going through... I just want to say that I hope it all ends soon♥
I feel this. I'm 31 and changed my birth control so my acne came back. Now I'm learning to try to embrace the zits I inevitably pick at. Alongside my developing wrinkles and gray hairs, it's been quite a journey.
I have a touch of trichotillomania (hair picking) and obsessive, constant chewing at the insides of my cheeks and lips. It's a body-focused repetitive behaviour. You know when someone has a pet parrot and they don't take care of it properly, don't give it enough stimulation, keep it in a situation that stresses it out, etc. It'll start pulling out all its feathers as a stress response. That's basically the same thing that we're doing, only we're human so we have the cognitive processes to hate and judge ourselves for our own behaviours, even when we have no real control over them.
I live with this too. You're not alone.
Shravya Challa thank you very much, that means a lot😊
Zack interrupting Eugene with the “but what if the wifi fails” comment at 17:08 was such a good representation of the obsessions I constantly experience with my OCD and it’s really nice to hear someone like him talk about his experiences because it shows me that I can meet my goals without letting my OCD define me so thank you for that Zack ❤️❤️
We need more discussions like these please. Zack telling us about his OCD made me realise a lot of things and I wanna say thank you.
I really related to Ned's experience with his leg injury and relationship with painkillers. Thank you for sharing that -- and to all the guys for sharing their struggles with different mental health hurdles. The Try Guys seem like such a fun group of friends and I look forward to every funny video, but I also really cherish content like this where they talk about real things. I know it can't be all that comfortable to open yourself up on a public platform like this.
I broke my knee (specifically, broke my tibia and dislocated the patella) a couple years ago and had to get surgery. There was a period of a few days (not sure how many, morphine really messes with your sense of time) where I had rods in my leg to keep everything straight until a specialist could be available to do my surgery. I remember the doctors asking me if I'd be open to going home a few days with these rods in my leg and I burst into tears because the apartment I was living in would NOT have been conducive to those rods. I laid in bed all summer feeling useless and sad and alone while everyone in my life had to continue their lives (work, school, etc) Luckily, I had a lot of books to read and my friends would come around after work to hang out with me or text me throughout the day to see how I'm doing. My best friend was awesome, he would pick me up and help me into the car to drive somewhere so I could feel like I wasn't just trapped at home every day. He'd drive me to the movies or go out to eat, or just wheel me around the mall in my wheelchair. On days I didn't feel like going out because my knee was aching or I was just tired, he'd stay at my place to smoke, order takeout and watch TV for hours. The support network really helps, more than you can imagine.
Eugene's story made me feel like I am not alone. I come from an Eastern European family and you would most likely not think it, but a lot of things are similar with our cultures, like mental illness being a tabo thing and the food thing. I used to be a very skinny child because I was a picky eater but now, as I have grown up in my teenage years, I have gained weight obviously and matured. Even though I am the average weight/a tiny bit under for my age and height, I still get called out for being fat or eating too much, to the point that only now, at age 17, I am starting to realise that all of that has been affecting me since I was 7 years old and has most likely developed into body dysmorphia. (I do not want to say that for certain tho because I was never formally diagnosed)
Ditto and I’m 31. Hang in there siostra
You have no idea how much this helped me. I’m a thirteen-year-old girl that’s been battling OCD almost all my life. The older I get, the worse and worse it gets and now it’s intolerable. It’s been very severe for almost a year now, and for a while I just didn’t understand why my brain worked so different from everyone else’s, and at the beginning, I didn’t even know my brain was different. I thought everyone’s was like mine. I’ve been afraid to seek help and tell my parents, and now I think I’m going to start.
It highly comforts me to know that someone else went through the same thing I am at my age.
Everyone's brain is different, we all struggle with something. I struggle with OCD as well and it's really helped to find out that there are other people who struggle with something similar as me. You are not alone. Don't be afraid to go to therapy, you deserve to feel better. Also, if the first therapist you see doesn't quite fit for you, keep looking for the right one. Sometimes it takes a few therapists to find the right one and that's okay.
Please know that, with help, it can get better. My roommate at University struggled with OCD and she opened up to me about how bad it had been just a few years before, but she was doing so well at that point and really overcame a lot to live her best life - it is possible ❤❤
@Cloudy Nights aww thank you! ❤️
@@sneums6610 thank you for your support! This really helped me feel better. It took me a long time to realize that’s what I need, and that’s okay. Ill look for therapists!
@@tarren452 thank you!! ❤️ I’m doing my best to live my best life and not let my OCD hold me back, and in fact embrace it
Eugene's "I've learned to live with the sadness", I felt that in my core. Keith's "Everything is learnable", I really needed to hear. Thank you guys for being so open.
Eugene is helping me with my eating disorder more. i thought that my eating was just me and not an issue but listening to Eugene i can acknoledge the fact that it is an issue. Eugene is like me im gay and asian so listening to him it is what I'm living right now
Love you and hope you find healthy outlets 👏
I really relate to Eugene, I've had an eating disorder for 6-7 years, it's gotten MUCH much better. But it really did stem from being uncomfortable with eating around people and worrying about what people were thinking about me eating. Now I still have issues and a terrible food relationship.
Every day is progress, and If anyone else is scrolling through the comments, the storm will pass, you are beautiful and perfect and valid, just the way you are. It is difficult to see the light at the end of the tunnel and it's okay, it's okay to feel bad and struggle, but please know you are not alone. 💜Life goes on.
This is 100% how mine started, too.
♥️💖♥️💖
(Here’s a special msg if you have depression! Or anxiety! Yay!)
If you are crawling your way through this year with pounds of your depression & anxiety strapped to your back, I can promise it’s not just you. I see you. Your depression and my depression might have super similar symptoms (twinsies!), or maybe our symptoms are total opposites! Whether you can’t motivate yourself to get out of bed or you feel like a whirlwind of manic depression that can’t sit down, the solidarity is there.
You’re not alone in these feelings day in and day out, there are a lot of us bumbling through the fog even when we don’t realize the others are there. Thank god for strength in numbers, and thank goodness this is a safe space to talk about it as a community. I support you getting through today.
Zach: "Put on a funny podcast and just do your laundry."
Me: sitting in the middle of Mt Laundry feeling so validated and seen
I do what Eugene does with the doors I check multiple times even though I know I locked it. The night time anxiety is real!
I ask my Fiancé multiple times if he locked the doors and windows.. I completely get it
So am I . I check every single door and window and even my car to see if all doors and windows are locked
@@eilyfoley7686 Yep yep yep. My therapist basically decided it's my husband's job to check the doors and stove/oven. I try to only ask them about it once a night. It's hard.
This was so necessary, and so appreciated. OCD/anxiety/depression check! ✅
Let’s not do tempest tik tok thingies.
But yes I do agree it was really appreciated and needed.
@@tracy94 what's tik tok? Or tempest tik tok?
Ive had panic attacks before. It was a combination of stress and pent of anxiety and I finally exploded. I remember my heart was beating so fast, it was so hard to breath and I blacked out. Thankfully i didnt faint or anything, and I was able to just do breathing exercises until I was more calm. I was never diagnosed with anxiety or anything but it was definately something I had in college. I dreaded public speaking, and riding the public transport alone. I got a panic attack while on the train, and another one that was the worst ive had before my public speaking class. Thank God for Uber, I stopped taking public transport and started Ubering everywhere. I didnt care how much I had to pay.
my therapist talks to me a lot about what he calls "bits and pieces people" which are people who dont have enough symptoms of an illness to be diagnosed, but still have a lot of the habits that come with illnesses
Hi TryGuys! And Miles!
I’m really glad you did a TryPod about mental health, because you guys have really clarifying lines of thought to help us get through.
Something I thought would be good to bring up is how Covid-19 and the constant talk of death brings up feelings of grief for those who have experienced loss. Because grief isn’t something you get through but what you learn to live with. With that being said, huge shoutout and lots of love and peace to Eugene who recently lost such a huge person in his life.
And, many hearts and love and virtual hugs to Miles who quickly passed through his feelings. I want you to know it really meant a lot that you shared with us your loss, because you’re such a funny and sweet guy. And I’m glad the TryGuys found you. And the love you have for your brother shines through the love you share to others by making people laugh.
You’re all great guys, Thankyou for normalizing sharing feelings between males because it does not happen as often as it should.
Thank you for expressing your vulnerability as four men! I feel like mental health conversations among and for men are so in need and so important!
FIVE! Sorry Miles I'm trash.
That bit where Ned was talking about when he got injured really struck me. I've not been injured that bad but we as a society do make other feel bad when they are not "productive". Getting rest is important too!
I have OCD, and I appreciate this talk from all of you, but especially Zach. I am having a really hard time right now with my mental health and I can see that struggle in Zach's face as well throughout this pod, actually made me tear up a bit. You're doing great, my man. love you dude. Genuinely. I hope kids with OCD see this and take it in that they aren't irreparably broken. I really could have used that in my younger years.
I was at a peak high functioning depression about two years ago. I remember going to my sister’s graduation party and I felt like I was dying inside. I talked, smiled and laughed with friends and family. I seemed completely fine and the people who thought they knew me best had no clue how I was feeling. When I left and got into my car I just broke down and cried the entire hour long car ride because I couldn’t believe how good of a liar I was. I am much better now but still get moments. Thank you for the discussion 💕
the eating disorder talk was very comforting, thank you so much eugene for opening up!! as someone who's usually very triggered by ed talk, this one really made me feel understood and less alone.
Just started psychotherapy today after months of avoiding therapy. Confronting your feelings is hard but after that you can learn to manage with them not fight against.
To anyone avoiding help and needs to hear this, just f**king do it!
Even just the action of starting can lead to wonderful things xx
Me too Julia! I’m allowing myself to become more vulnerable so I can finally fight against my demons.
@@AS-lk8sb Well done! You deserve to feel okay. I hope you progress into the person you want to be
Keith talking about how he plays scales with his hands made me feel incredibly seen. I thought I was the only one who did that... I play scales and sign the alphabet in ASL. A lot of what Keith said made me feel seen.
really appreciate this "feelings" episode :)) get you a miles who brings donuts lmao
I literally just had a period when I felt so lonely I cried every night for a week. I then realised that if I didn't tell anyone I was lonely, no one would be able to help me. I'm really happy now!
I'm so sorry ♥ hope you're doing well now♥♥
I can relate *hugs*
It's comforting in a way to hear the boys talk so candidly about mental health and to do so in such a healthy manner. It really helps the effort of destigmatizing mental health across the board. To hear Zach's struggles with OCD really reflected my own battle with it over the years as well so I totally get what you're going through man, we're in this together!
Eugene looks like Ken Doll goes boating. I love it.
I relate to Eugene about food so much! My mom specifically on several occasions would make remarks like “are you going to eat that whole thing?!” to me and my sisters and it made me self conscious as young as 12 years old, I’m 16 now I worry about how often I work out and how much and what I’m eating everyday and it adds so much stress to what is already extremely stressful as a junior in high school.
I've had OCD since I was 7, which I realized while my parents were watching an episode of the Drew Carey Show where Mimi was turning the lights off and on a certain number of times. I'm glad folks like y'all are around so fewer people have to get the news from Mimi.
I have ADD, AUTISM and dyslexia and depression I know dyslexia doesn’t have anything to do with like mental health as much as autism and ADD but anyways, this episode was so (important)(??) For me idk how to say it. I feel like im not alone when I hear other people talk about their mental health problems so this episode made me happy and I need that because my life and school is very stressful right now.
Btw sorry I have misspelled anything and idk if this even made any sense hehe
They adapted that story about the dog and his owner into a movie. In Japan I think it was called Hachiko. The American version is called Hachi with Richard Gere. My god if you need a good cry I recommend that one. I bawled so hard.
Thank you Zach for bringing awareness to what’s it’s like living with OCD 🙌🏼 it’s mental torture and no one can truly know how hard it is unless you deal with it
Caught me ditchin online school because I hate being reminded of the world we live in... how dare you
Eugene talking about how he and his sisters would make those little comments to each other like "you're chubby," etc. reminded me of when I was a kid and my oldest brother would poke fun at my other brother for "being fat" when, looking back, he was not fat by any means. My oldest brother was just really skinny and always had been, so they just had different body types. But as the youngest, I joined in on the jokes because I thought it was cool and funny since my older brother was making them and I was at a very impressionable age. But looking back, I feel so terrible for the things we said to him. We both love him and have a much more mature sibling relationship now (we were just kids at the time, to be fair), but when I think about some of the persistent jokes we'd make about him, I can't help but believe that we were part of the reason that he ended up being diagnosed with depression when he was in college. I'm not close enough with him individually to know the details of when and why he got diagnosed and started taking medication, but I feel so guilty now because I feel like I was so mean to him as a kid :(
Also, Zach starting of talking about his ocd in a very deep & detached voice as a coping mechanism is me
Listening to Zack talk about his OCD made me feel so reassured I've been having a real rough time recently and it's just nice to know their are people out their just liek 16 year old me
My anxiety and depression is having a heyday during quarantine. 7 months of no work and hardly leaving the house... It's rough.
I really feel you on this one. My frequency of unintentional 3-4 hour naps has been off the charts. Hang in there.
@@ethanlyndraeger7406 Same here. And I'd like to add that if anyone's symptoms are so bad that reading/watching the news, even for a little while, drags them into a pit - it's okay to cut it completely out of their lives. I know how I'm going to vote, and that's all I can really do. My therapist knows my needs, and she's the one who encouraged me to block out the things that were damaging my mental health. Now I read a lot, and I watch videos of cute animals, nature relaxation videos, and BTS (thanks for that one, Try Guys!). Each of us has to find our own path...and therapy is a huge, huge help.
@@Karin_Allen Iiiiiiiii am down that BTS RUclips rabbit hole with you. (Also thx to these guys.)
As someone who was diagnosed with OCD when in middle school i appreciate all of your stories. I struggle with it everyday and it can really knock me out. However, i have found that my OCD has made me more tolerant of things. As a nurse this is invaluable. Thank you Zach i always knew you and i were similar.
I will always cry when I watch a performer absolutely kill it at a skill they have so clearly worked hard to become an expert at, something about watching them master something and perform it flawlessly will always get me
I am a violinist and I do the same thing, Keith. I'll sometimes even find myself using my other arm as a violin neck for shifting practice. I'm sure I look strange to others, just moving my fingers like that, but there's a whole concerto going on in my head, so I don't care. Haha :)
Imagine being a pianist/organist 😆
Just submitted my third year software project like 2 minutes ago. Exactly what i needed right now
I was very recently diagnosed with GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and was told i have “ocd tendencies” (currently going through the process of getting a full diagnosis). my anxiety got so bad that i had to be hospitalized 2 weeks because i couldn’t eat, sleep, shower, or literally anything. i’m still recovering and hearing you all, especially Zach, talk about your struggles makes me feel hopefully and less alone. i’ve been binging try guys content for like 2 weeks and it’s really comforting. love you guys ❤
They are so respectful of each other and so informed about the subjects.. I love having mature adults to watch