ok, let's talk about it. - The TryPod Ep. 181
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FOR THOSE ASKING ABOUT EUGENE: Eugene chose to step away from the podcast a long time ago. He is busy with personal projects and doesnt enjoy the open talk format because hes a more private person. His absence is not abnormal or a sign that hes leaving Try Guys. Just want to reassure people who don't usually follow the podcast and didn't know. This is normal.
most definitely. just how he is
omg thank u for this! i was so scared cause i thought eugene's gonna leave.
@@jewel8337 I know it seems worrying for people who dont normally watch the podcast, but its all good :)
Thank you for that!
Whats sad is that i had hope that he would come back to being a regular once he wae done with his projects, and he did say he liked being on the podcast but turns out he doesnt, or changed his mind.
Ive always loved the episodes when eugene is on, especially keith + eugene episodes
This is the definition of men holding other men accountable and I am so proud of them for it.
Why y’all always gotta make it a gendered thing
@@theatticaddict because so many men never have consequences or repercussions for their mistakes and actions. just look at hollywood as an example
edit: for the people replying saying hollywood isnt the real world- while thats true, again its an example. ive been sexually assaulted by a man and this man has gone on to marry and live his life as if nothing happened, no accountability or repercussions whatsoever. this shit happens in the real world
@@theatticaddict bc some men tend to cover up for their buddies and downplay it
@@libras_groove Hollywood isn't real life lmfao. These dudes have know about it for over a year. Ned an Alex got caught by her boyfriend December of 2021. You can verify all of this.
@@libras_groove Agreed but that applies to women too
Silver lining; The Try guys going from 4 to 3 makes more sense thematically. A Tryad, a Tryangle, a Tryfecta. A new era indeed.
Literally, Trypod too
The tri guys
@@TheHugeDilEmma yes!!
I think you mean a threesome.
fair BUT kwesi needs to be in the permanent cast like. rightnow
their transparency caught me so off gaurd because RUclipsrs *never* do that. huge respect to the tryguys team.
Didn’t they try to hide this whole thing. But only AFTER it blew up, they went out with it?
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow I believe what they meant about that month they didn't disclose anything is because this involved a sexual relationship between a boss/owner and an employee, it became a more complicated legal issue than a let's be honest with our audience issue. It opens the entire company (not just Ned) open to sexual harassment lawsuits. They also have contracts with other companies that could void them if they think their company could be involved in said harassment lawsuits. One wrong move and they could have lost everything.
That’s just how they are, they’re wonderful wholesome people who will stick to what they believe in. That’s why we all watch them right?
@@grreeeeee this isn’t a scandal. It’s one guy who decided to cheat.
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow They directly address this in this episode. When there is an internal investigation, you CAN'T talk about it while the investigation is still happening. There are legal ramifications and it could interfere with the investigation. So they addressed it immediately within the company. But couldn't talk about it publicly until everything was settled and actions had been taken.
Ned not old destroyed his career, his family, and his reputation, but he also indirectly broke Zach’s dishwasher
NO NOT THE DISHWASHER
That was also my takeaway from the whole episode!!!
even the dishwasher was going through it
And gave him ants and Keith horse flies
Zach, send the dishwasher repair bill and the pest control bill (ya got ants) over to Ned.
Let’s be clear, the try guys didn’t lose our trust, Ned did. We still love and support you guys.
Alex also lost our trust. But yes, the three try guys are not at fault.
This! We still trust the try guys the employees and Ariel. Sending love to them all.
I won't add Alex as we dont know the whole story there. There was the boss employee factor so I'm careful on Her part in this atm.
@@rosehill9537 she absolutely was at fault. They worked at BF together when they were co-workers, and she is a full grown ass woman. They have been friends for years. There is a degree of a power imbalance there now, but she is far from innocent. Plus, she had a fiance who has to deal with this whole thing.
@@cherrymilk5590 i dont disagree. She has her responsibility for her actions. Im just being careful till all the facts are known.
@@rosehill9537 totally makes sense, I agree. I'm definitely more mad at ned since we know he's the worst but I don't wanna speculate
crazy how it’s been a WHOLE YEAR since the scandal that broke the internet
And Ariel still didn't divorce Ned. I don't know how she had the patience to deal with him for a whole year.
it was actually such a shock to the system
@@PosaPuntoI think they're sticking together and they're trying to make it work
@@PosaPunto Wes. They have a kid together and many people would try to work it out instead of have their child grow up in a broken home
@@quantummidget A marriage with parents with a broken relationship where the mother is unhappy IS a broken home. Anyone who have respect for themselves would have a divorce and wouldn't be a bad example for their children. You cheat, you have consequences. That's what the children should have seen but now they are going to be like their father when they grow up because they are going to see first hand that women always forgives men no matter what they do for their children. Now they are going to think they can do anything because they will not going to have any consequences. That kind of family is the worst.
This is such a healthy conversation between men about their mental health and as a man who struggles sharing with other men, I really appreciate it
I feel like they have always been such a wonderful example of men being able to open up to each other and be emotionally vulnerable. That’s one of the reasons I loved watching them. The way they’ve handled this situation has just solidified that for me.
I'm so happy to hear that you feel safe enough to share this with all of us. Thank you truly. You are not alone.
Ghey
@@indigoginzo9843 that’s nice
These are not men lol these are soy boys
I know so many people have said this, but if anything the official response to Ned’s scandal has STRENGTHENED my perception of the Try Guys brand. I am even more proud to be a fan because of the professionalism, candor, and empathy expressed by the Try team.
Yes, I just commented the same thing. If theyre worried about their brand they should know that this is one time when a scandal actually strengthens the brand. People have started watching try guys again and really appreciate the guys' handling of the situation
YES!
Couldn't agree with you more. It's a difficult situation but they're dealing with it head on while still being respectful of the people involved.
could not agree more, could not agree more.
Couldn't have said it better myself
could not have said it better myself
Imagine the downfall of your marriage being sponsored by DoorDash®️
😂😂😂
I’m dead. This is hilarious
😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Welcome to the future 😂😂😂
"I think the stages of grief... I think they're a circle." - Keith.
This is awful. Such a betrayal of trust. So much love to Ariel and the babies, to the Try Team, and to the remaining Guys.
He's joking but it's a circle.
It is often talked about as a circle in psychology
As a psychologist, Keith is correct. Grief is not linear, limited by time, and not truly 5 stages. That was more of a loose guideline by Kübler-Ross. It is definitely a spectrum and has infinite variations with infinite emotional/physical/spiritual phases.
@@danny2481makes a lot of sense. My mom died 3 years ago and some days are fine and some are still like it just happened yesterday.
I like that theyre leaving the door open for Ariel.
it reminds me so much the male characters in old movies... where they'd rally around those in need and protect them when they were at their most vulnerable.
@@kstormgeistgem461try guys are all about that positive masculinity
@@syra1541❤
The fact that Zach was worried about Ned suing them if they did this "wrong" reveals to me something new about Ned that I'm not happy with
exactly what i was thinking. what kind of friend sues another friend, even under these circumstances? wack.
They've been friends with Ned for literally over a decade and everything-
Right? That would be some audacity.
Don't take this the wrong way, Ned actions are horrible. But as a lawyer he has the right to not be dragged to filth by a company he was a co-founder, so if they did a "dramagedon" he could sue.
But still... Ned values are in the wrong place so maybe he just will sue them as a vengeance who knows
idk i don't buy this. i'm not trying to defend the guy at all and i'm not saying he's not a shitty person but like this is a big messy situation professionally/legally and even if he did go with grace the company still needs to be careful
Please don't stop doing Without a Recipe. Fill the fourth slot with a guest cook or a staff member and make it fun. Keith needs to get a season to bring back Daddy's Favorite
please don’t cancel it 😢
Give me Kwasi. I want to see that man panic cook with my WHOLE heart.
I would love to see a guest each time it would be so fun!
Miles!! Add Miles to the roster!
YES
Let Ariel know we LOVE HER
How about the Alex’s fiance?
@@ProjectOverman fr i haven't seen much about the poor dude
@@yieshyeah Yes, it is pretty sad how one sided the viewer’s sympathy has been. I think Ned is a POS but I also think Alex is as well. Unfortunately, accountability has also been one sided on this issue.
We do feel horrible for Alex’s fiancé! We feel like we know Ariel whereas we don’t really know the fiancé. I honestly don’t even know his name. We watched Ariel build her house, have a baby, have a miscarriage, have a second child, help create a podcast. We’ve gotten to see into her world over the years. We have sympathy for both parties but we feel as if we are closer to one party.
@@amberly221 yes
"it was a workplace violation and that's that" this is just like a beautiful summary of how great zach is in this video. His usual video personality is kind of goofy and it was so nice to see the absolute practical Boss Style come out, really well done
I truly don’t think this makes the Try Guys look bad. It only makes NED look bad. The rest of you have handled this with grace. And your first statement video was the best response to a scandal I’ve ever seen on RUclips. It felt genuine and sincere
Totally agree
Yeah, I think that must be a product of all of the internet drama hitting them really hard. Definitely doesn’t make them look bad at all.
All the hard work with lawyers for an entire month has definitely payed off 👏🏼
It’s important for them to handle it well - because they were a team and need to solidify that they’re brand doesn’t stand for Ned’s behaviour
100%. They’ve handled it so well on all fronts. This will definitely be used as a case review in future PR classes.
I feel like Zach, Keith and Eugene have set a new standard for how male managers respond to this kind of situation. I've seen so many sweep it under the rug, stand with their male colleague and force out the victim. The Try Guys have dealt this swiftly and with clarity
Agreed, wholeheartedly, however, I think Alexandria is in no way a victim in this situation
@@pavlinafricova2038 yeah the only thing i will say in her favor is that the power Dynamic did mean even if she wanted it badly it still isn't truly consent. There is always a power imbalance removing the consent. But for it to go on so long, i don't really thing this was something she didn't want.
Just release a new hit song
Tell me what you think 🔥🌪️🔥
How is the mistress a victim 😭😭😭 y'all are disrespectful to actual victims of abuse
@@SilverstreamPJ28 Because she was a subordinate. The power imbalance matters and there's no way for us outsiders to be able to judge if there really wasn't any pressure from Ned being Alexandria's boss.
adult friendship loss is trauma like no other. would love to hear y'all explore it more-there's not tons out there
So true!! I understand the topic is still fresh and they might not want to go into details, but I would love to hear more about friendship loss having experienced it myself
I second that. It’s so painful, and there is so little sad about it.
That’s bullshit
That's not what trauma is.
Straight up. At this point they are almost like siblings. There was a time they'd spend like 24 hours a day sleeping and eating together. This is a family breakup, and yeah. It is genuinely traumatizing.
The things they are describing is my descent when my dad died. It must be very traumatic. Because whether or not I know what they are feeling, I certainly know the signs.
the fact that they are scared of lawsuits in this situation means things with ned must have ended pretty poorly and I'm so sorry for them for having to deal with that, but they are being so strong throughout this. This wouldn't be easy for anyone.
Eugene's comment in the "what happened" video about them refusing to "sweep things under the rug" gave me the impression that Ned pushed for them to keep him on and ignore the affair
i think the reason why lawsuits are a big factor in this situation is because ned was having a relationship (sexual?) with an employee of his and he was an employer. in corporate world that is a BIG no no because the employee can file for sexual harassment and it can get messy really fast. also they have to protect their employee that was involved. i feel so bad for them, this is a huge head/heart ache for them all.
My theory is that because Ned was a founding member of their company, they had to review his contract/agreement. There may have been some kind of buy out and in that they couldn't discuss certain things? I'm not sure how contract/cooperate law really works, but if he was part owner - they probably couldn't just fire him.
Ned was a nobody so fame just got into his head and wanted to try everything as if he was single
@@anonimochenta4439 he deserves to lose everything
Man the complete irony of how careful you had to be in dealing with this situation compared to just how careless Ned was is unreal.
100% this
and the audacity for him to copy the font for his notes app ‘apology’ after it all 😭
So so true and just shows you who the real pros are in this company
It is wild, but, that’s usually how it goes. Ik it’s corny, but that phrase about the way to destruction being wide and shit, kinda rings true here.
guess that's why he's the one in this mess!
If this is how much the guys suffered through this, just imagine what Ariel must be going through.
Not just Ariel, but their children to, that's a hard thing to explain to your kids. :(
And Will!! A lot of people fail to mention Alex's ex fiancé and that's sad. She ruined a 10 year long relationship. I wish Ariel, Will, the kids and the try guys the best.
@@ahhhhhhh1407 yes poor kids. they are so little and so much is going on. when they grow up it will be hard for them. imagine your father having affair and whole internet talking about it
I feel like Ned really stunted the brand. Already, in just a few months their content has been SO much better and so different. I love it! 😁
I totally agree. It just feels more positive and light??
I don’t know you personally and not trying to, but I feel like a lot of people love bringing up the whole I never like that person anyway talk whenever something controversial comes out about them and all of a sudden people all of a sudden are in lightened by these newfound suspicions but ours ago before this controversial even happened people were over here saying I love this person. He’s cool they’re great nerds, my favorite blah blah blah I just think it’s really interesting when all of a sudden somebody has something bad come out about them whether it’s true or not, all of a sudden people want to ride the heat train, and all of a sudden people have all this on bridal heat for this person that could not be found it anywhere prior to the controversial action.
@@sharpaycutie2 Honestly my dislike for him comes gradually. I got in to the try guys around 2016/2017 ish then they went to make their own company. I used to think “Ah, maybe Ned’s just like this” but time after time I find him annoying and a few times I got so jumpy because of what he said and how he reacted
@@sharpaycutie2i think it's interesting bc when this first came out i was extremely in denial but it definitely added up later that i didn't like him as much as i thought LMAO but i get what you're saying
Yeah I'm able to watch them again
The amount of adults claiming to "not understand" why he was fired is alarming. Read your Employee Handbooks people!
Fr my partner thought it was insane he was fired till he read that it was with his employee he was like 😮 I see 😂
They didn't know it was an employee and founder of the company whose brand was being a loving husband and father.
Exactly!!!! Most companies it is listed several times to sink in!!! It literally is a big deal and really frowned upon. The military will dishonorably discharge you over this same issue.
@@annettey4799 I guess I should have specified that I meant the adults in the comments.
Where they at? Let's talk about these alarms.
“Almost like a trauma”
As a therapist, I’d say this absolutely WAS a trauma. Someone that you trusted and love did something horrible that not only risked your livelihood, but it severely harmed you and people you love. It also led to you having to take on a huge burden of responsibility to clean up the mess. It absolutely is a trauma and you shouldn’t ever feel like you need to downplay it. It’s okay to feel traumatized by everything.
Yea I was like bros this is trauma!! It's ok to process it as such!
@im sacred ..potatoes?
@@seannanana84 that’s why I’m wondering
Why didn’t they validate their own pain 😢
It’s not. Please stop.
@@weebabyshakeus You do not get to tell other people that what they went through isn’t traumatic or valid. It’s not your business to invalidate people and their feelings. Don’t be a gatekeeping a-hole
I really hope Ariel sticks around. The Try Moms trying things has really helped me personally in the issues I have developed since becoming a mom as well. She and the other try moms gave me some more happiness and confidence in myself.
Technically the other ones are try wives, as they don't have children, only Ariel does. But I completely agree, they should definitely keep the podcast. Especially now more than ever when I think Ariel needs the most support and to surround herself with positive, caring people like Becky and Maggie!
@@keianao6369 no, I wasn't talking about Becky and Maggie. I was talking about the newer segments they were doing called the try moms specifically made for women with children. Thanks.
Rachel has been producing them and I love seeing her on the other side of the camera I hope Ariel keeps featuring but more Rachel too! And maybe Kwesi’s wife!
@@keianao6369 they did motherhood things and were called try moms. i think you don't watch many videos maybe and came here commenting and made a fool of yourself
@@munmun07 fam do you need to talk? why so riled up
This issue didn't effect my favourite video from the Try Guys. Keith eating $500 of cheese is hands down my ultimate content. Waiting for a cheese re-visited
thank God someone else feels deeply connected to Keith's cheese video 😭💛 I thought I was alone!
I absolutely love that video and how feral Kelsey got with that jar cheese😂😂
oh my god i thought i was the only one, i've seen that video over 20 times
This past week has solidified my opinion of Eugene, Zach, and Keith. 3 stand up human beings who, in the face of adversity, held strong to the values they said they have over the past 8 years.
@RR ...No shit, let it die
TRI GUYS TRI GUYS TRI GUYS
opinions changes
Don’t worry everyone though Ned was a stand up guy too LOL
as a pr student, this scandal would be an incredible case study judging by how calmly and professionally everything was handled.
Honestly! Yes!
Yeah. I'm not normally a Try Guys watcher. I've probably watched 4 of their videos ever, but I've been watching a little bit because they handled this so well, from both a PR and an ethical standpoint, and I think that should be rewarded
don't t hink that the guys would even think of 'this case' to be the one to use as case study..
Unfortunately in real life even from a pr perspective rare are the cases where being definitive is a possibility.
(I've worked both full time and part time in pr for the past 10 years, mostly public organizations, some none profits and a startup or two in crisis)
Yeah definately go from all Sides. Ned for being a Hypocrite, Alex Herring for opening her legs even after knowing everything about Ned and his marriage, Ned's wife for not satisfying him maybe?... And their overall we love each other sabang selling BS to everyone. Both Ned and His wife Scammed millions.
The reality is most men just wanna spread their lovin and can never be satisfied with one woman. Selling this BS not only harms the people getting into marriage but, only makes them see one side. I believe in Polygamy myself. But, the dude just had to honest and let the people know he wants a main and a couple of sides. Honesty. Horrible people all of em covered in a web of lies.
Hope these pointers get you started in that case study of yours. Just be careful not to add the Polygamy part. It's not main stream enough and can get you cancelled. Free speech is slowly dying.
I love how Zach can be the goofy airhead and the organised boss, at the same time!
Right? He's an amazing entertainer and a hugely responsible boss. He knows exactly where the line is.
Same, that's why I love his personality. :)
I was in the middle of a class when the news broke and a girl stopped class and told everyone out loud and it was genuinely like absolute chaos in this upper level college seminar. You guys have made quite the impact on my generation.
I really respect how they take that impact seriously 💜
Ha SAME
Fr the talk of the day at my job today haha
That's pathetic.
Same thing happened with me and my friends except we are all teachers now and found out during planning
Huge props to Zach for going to that wedding for Maggie because he didn’t want her to have to face the drama alone. A+ fiancé move.
i like how he just mentioned it like it wasnt a big deal where as if ned did it hed be like " of course i cant leave MY WIFE cause its MY WIFE and i love MY WIFE"
I agree!
@@murphi8238 1000% it was just natural for Zack.
Not a put on for the camera.
Since day one I have gravitated toward Zach, he is so honest and sweet its not for show and the little potty mouth on him is almost endearing.
+10 fiance points for Zach and -100 husband points for Ned
this is so insane but the cut to Keith in 26:19 putting on chapstick really sent me to the moon
BAHAHAHAH 😂
Omg I WHEEZED at that, was so unexpected
I was never attached to Ned like I am with Keith, Eugene, and Zach; they all had different layers to their personality and Ned was just one-dimensional. I give my respect on how this was handled; as should every business.
Also shame on SNL for that poor skit.
The SNL skit was the most “OK Boomer” thing I’ve ever seen. So out of touch, so smug, old men protecting men from the repercussions of their shitty actions.
It's so sad to see this happen. But speaking purely through the lens of the well-being of the company, it could have been worse. They could have lost Eugene, Keith or Zack. This is the least detrimental iteration of how this could have happened.
@@girlgreenivy lowkey thats what i feel as well. couldnt imagine try guys without keith... :(
Ned always said he was the one to handle things on the business end, but Zach seems a lot more professional than people give him credit for
i think he took credit for business end as a whole when he was mainly in charge of finance
@@jess3843 100% agree with you. I felt that in the documentary - Zach and Keith came across leaders who cared for this company and it’s long term success.
@@jess3843 tbh when i think about the past vids, there was one where he called himself the party planner but then halfway through he said he just took credit for the parties his wife threw. Same for cooking and caring for kids though i think the disparity there wasnt so stark. But same thing, he is the kind to take credit for others works.
I'm feeling Zach really hard here; I don't tend to come across as professional day-to-day but when shit goes down at work I come to the fore.
@@jess3843 He was in charge of finance, which makes things worse since he might have expensed his dates under the company's dime. I have no proof of this of course but it is a huge possibility.
I reported the assistant manager at my old job for constant sexual harassment to the owner/gm of the store, and he asked me if I “really want to ruin his career”. Glad to see how you guys handled everything.
same thing happened to me too at my first job when I was 16. they didn’t believe me at all and thought I just wanted a promotion or something 🙄 like no I just don’t want to work with a 35 year old pedophile. turns out he was a repeat sex offender and child predator 😳
It’s not ruining a career-it’s holding people responsible-they need to be placed away from the victim and find work elsewhere. They have shown they cannot be trusted to treat their coworkers with dignity and true comraderie-they viewed the victim as a personal resource to use or tease or belittle or power play or enjoy rather than as a colleague, realizing they are both company resources and no boundaries should be broken.
So sorry you went through this love, sending you a big hug. I really hope that person gets what they deserve.
@@llamamama2910 exactly!! beautifully written! I hope you’re doing much better now, sending love to you
He ruined his career not you.
Listening to this again a year later, I have to say this channel has only gotten better. I hope the trajectory continues, and that you guys have so much success moving forward!!!
Only thing I really miss is Ariel 😢 Hope she's doing well! She's so lovely, I hope maybe she gets her time to shine again or maybe she's done with the internet forever, in which case, I respect that too. Just sending her my best wishes
I'd just like us to all collectively acknowledge that Miles has basically just instructed us to go touch grass
For the record, we haven’t lost trust in you guys. We lost trust in Ned. We still love and support the try guys. You did everything right ❤
Just release a new hit song
Tell me what you think 🔥🌪️🔥
Yes....👏👏👏
You trusting Ned and then him cheating on his wife is exactly why you shouldn’t trust the rest of them. YOU do not know these people, they do not know you. They could all be serial cheaters and you’d have no idea. Blindly believing and trusting something someone famous says is the dumbest thing any human could do above the age of 12.
@@BaronVonBielski my god, have some faith dude. we cant like people? lol
@@BaronVonBielski Knowing them or not changes nothing. You could know someone for years, dearly, and trust them fully based on their actions around you; then still be betrayed by them if it turns out they've been making shitty choices you weren't aware of. It's happened to all of us. You either choose to trust human beings based on actions or you live the miserable life of trusting no one and expecting betrayal and deceit, regardless of their closeness to you; the kind of thing an edgelord 12yo or a deeply disturbed adult would argue for. But they did the right thing and there's no reason to lose trust in them over this action. When they pull bullshit like Ned did, then losing faith makes sense.
Keith listening to Olivia Rodrigo to cope with this is truly so on brand yet weirdly absurd
I remember Zach had mentioned before he liked Olivia Rodrigo’s music that he dedicated a whole without a recipe concept based on her Sour album. So I guess Zach introduce Olivia Rodrigo to Keith..🥹
7:55 Zach mentioning Olivia Rodrigo’s Traitor song “You betrayed me…”🥺
If anyone remembers Olivia used to follow just Ned on IG so chances are he was her fave member 😭
@@user-bn8tk4md6b oh no! 😮 I wonder if Olivia knows and unfollowed him.
Edit: I was not aware that Olivia doesn’t follow anyone on Instagram.
@@wonderlucky1912 she doesn’t follow anyone anymore
I’m dying to know what they said to Ned on a personal level and how they’re dealing with losing a friend.
Being a fly on the wall in that very first meeting would have been wild
I’d love to know who told them. How did they find out? I’m assuming it wasn’t from reddit
@@ginao6810 pretty sure it wasn't considering they literally said they knew it first before everyone else did. I guess they knew through the partners since fans DMed Ariel and the girl's ex-fiancee
No offense but that's not of your business. These guys are public figures but they're also people who have some allotment of peivacy.
I don’t think any of us have an expectation to know, but we’ve likely all been through a breakup of some sort whether it’s friendship, romantic, work etc. and it would just be interesting to have been there- I wouldn’t want a looking back talk about it, as you say that’s their private moment to come to terms with it, but it doesn’t change that it would be interesting to have seen their reactions because they’re all such different personalities but they were also such close friends
This was the most “not messy” piece of drama I’ve ever seen and it’s very refreshing to see people act like grown adults when dealing with it. You guys are awesome.
Could someone please tell me why they felt the need to distance themselves from Ned? I know he cheated, but does their contracts say they need to stay out of drama?
@@Brunette007 They mention in the episode that what Ned and Alex did was a workplace violation. Ned was Alex's boss, a CEO of the company, and them "dating" is a huuuuge mess for the company. For HR, PR, and workplace morale, it just doesn't make sense to keep them around. Not to mention how everyone around them feels about there being a company scandal, two friends ruining very long relationships, etc.
Right, they are staying away because he lied to them too and risked all of their financial lives.
I absolutely love the compassion they have
@@crystalmasters8582 yes! literally their livelihoods. Sponsorship deals cancelled their new network tv show, done. Hopefully everything is going to be okay. But who know if their was a lawsuit if they would’ve survived the legal fees /settlement. He literally put everything for everyone on the line. NOT TO MENTION the employees at 2nd try LLC that would lost their jobs as well
Love that Zach made a tiny reference to ex buzzfeed employees using this situation as an opportunity to make it about themselves, there were so nasty and for what
True. It was totally unnecessary and just throwing gas into the fire. It was inconsiderate to Ariel and the little boys.
Eh everyone using the situation for attention, even the tri-guys. That social media for you.
@@poetryflow8413 its not ONLY about them, but it is kinda about them
@@poetryflow8413 true but this is something that directly relates to the try guys and their company so its very very fair (and wanted by the public) to hear their point of view - others (like the ex buzzfeed employees) who are not directly relevant to the situation but speaking on it personally does feel more exploitative yk
Who?
As someone who is chronically Ill, Ive been worried about Zach. This is most assuredly not only emotionally but physically taxing. All three of you need to make sure to stay hydrated, take your meds and just TRY and relax. I love you guys.
As a fellow spoony .. pot..... Sooooooooo much pot.
Yep 😢 it worried me when he said he’s not been exercising. It’s so easy to not take care of our health when other things come up.
An immediate family member committed a crime that landed them 25 to life last year and it's been incredibly traumatic personally. It may seem weird to say, but a LOT of what y'all had to say has been very relatable. Thank you for being so honest and sharing how you've felt about everything. It's been genuinely therapeutic.
I’m so so sorry. That sounds awful omg :( ❤️🩹 keep strong, I know you will
A lot of soccer matches will call their fans “the 12th man.” We’re all now your 4th Try Guy. We are here cheering you on and so proud of you all for the dignity and professionalism you have shown.
I loved this ❤
omg yes I love that!! ❤
Omg this is perfect
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Zach’s little “leave our fucking staff alone” made me so happy. The fact that one of their focuses is the safety and respect granted to their staff in the midst of all of this is amazing to me. I loved it, even more than most anything else that was said. I’ve always loved you guys, and I’ll continue to.
“Leave our staff alone” does that include Alex? Was she not fired? How come they’re still following her on Instagram?
@@Laura-Yu I don't know, I mean even if she did something shitty as well, they still keep in touch with each other. Yes she got remove from the try guys and sabotage her own career and the company's success. Apparently, she doesn't have a say so in the success of the try guys company. It is pretty obvious.
But that doesn't mean you can say shitty things to their staff, even if they not part of the try guys anymore. Respect still remains, as well as respect for their privacy and not some false conspiracy that people concoct on the internet.
ok
@@Laura-Yu if they fire her she can sue them for all they're worth. even if they wanted to they can't
coming back to say that this did NOT ruin the tryguys for me. still love you guys. still love your content and admire you. thank you for being you!
I became a fan through this. I like everyone other than Ned. Even watching back, he's fucking annoying. Him leaving was the best thing for the 3 talented ones.
I will not lie to you, I stopped watching the Try Guys because Ned was so creepy and was really irritating to me. He was the only one I didn't like so I stopped watching for a while, but thank God the boys are a solidified 3 person group and literal Tri-Guys. Yall got this, it's gonna be a fun new adventure!
to you too?!? i just thought it was my dark, bitchy side kicking in!
i actually Just resubbed back on.
I thought it was just me!! I found him so indescribably creepy and weird; so I just stopped watching altogether.
i actually watched them since their very beginning & neds constant appearances around the time i stopped watching played a huge role, roughly 2020. i would watch the videos he wasn’t in and then i kinda just stopped all together. all of this drama brought me back & i’m so glad it did. i’ve had 2+ years of content to catch up on!💀😂
I'm glad I saw this comment. I found him insufferable and stopped watching them because I couldn't stand Ned and I thought I was being petty.
I felt this too. The energy was weird and bad from him. I didn’t enjoy his segments. I watched what featured the others more so over videos of all four and found myself trying to skip over neds parts
Keith Zach and Eugene has set the standard for all brands now. To handle something so awful with grace and compassion is amazing. I still love you guys. You didn’t loose my trust. Ned did
*lose
@@anselenriquez1191 read the room 😐
@@rainearbuckle read this ratio
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@@dahlia6457 HA
Personally, I really respect Keith, Zach, and Eugene for stepping up, holding Ned responsible, and being so professional in this whole situation.
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what's about Alex?
Absolutely
@@Ayse-ms9ud they can’t take action against her because she was subordinate, but she’s equally responsible for this. She threw away an 11 year relationship to be with a married man.
Y'all I can't believe that I forgot Ned exists, I've been watching all these new videos after he got kicked out and I accidentally clicked on an old one. What a shock it was when a real blast from the past started speaking 🤣🤣
Like a laffy taffy in Nostalgic Douche flavor
It’s surreal because of the context, but I actually find myself coming back to this podcast episode a lot in timed I need comfort. Their willingness to talk candidly about their emotions and be as transparent as they were able to be about the situation is so nice to see. They dealt with this better than I’ve seen anyone in any comparable situation do so and I think that speaks to their compassion.
Also, Keith talking about his anxiety going to public crowded places and Zach sort of nodding to affirm him was Very sweet ❤
I am currently watching this for like the 5th time because I agree its super comforting and they express their feelings and the behind the scenes stuff so well
i'm here for that exact reason!!! it's not the rehashing of drama i'm interested in...for some reason, the way they talked about their emotions, anxiety, and grief is so comforting...
agree! i’m watching it for the 3rd time. just something about how like this episode is ABOUT something too instead of just kinda random chatting for an hour
i thought i was the only one!!! i call it "comfort angst" because obviously i don't like the context but exactly like you said, the vulnerability and honesty is really refreshing and weirdly soothing
I normally can’t sit thought videos longer then like 10 minutes, but i have watched this so many times i love how open they are
Fuck yeah to Eugene not doing the podcast because he doesn’t want to! Like, that’s my favorite part of this. I love the guys doing things they love and that are good for them, and if the pod doesn’t serve Eugene then so be it. This brought me so much joy for some reason.
I read a comment the other day that got me thinking about Eugene’s response and not being on the podcast: Eugene was not a kid/baby person, but when he had the opportunity to be around Wess when he was still a baby and be a part of his life, that changed Eugene’s perspective. Additionally, he grew really close to Ariel as well, and you can see that closeness in the videos with them together.
There’s another level of betrayal Eugene is feeling, in addition to what everyone else is feeling: This person whom he had been friends with for over a decade, and let him be a part of his family, broke his heart.
That’s just my take on it.
Same - made me so happy!! Honestly, I had stopped watching the tripod and came back for the drama... But, one thing that had made me stop was how forced it seemed in some aspects, and I think a big part of that is it not serving Eugene. So I am excited to tune in more.
dude knew he couldnt say anything nice and dipped. respect for that.
He was so pissed in that video 😭
I couldn’t agree more, but I came here to say your username made me scream laugh. Thank you for that internet stranger.
I love the idea of not having an official 4th Try Guy but basically having a "Try Guest" so to speak.
They need a person of color
@@slackjaw2643 Eugene is literally Asian lmao
Tri guys?.
@@slackjaw2643 or a physically challenged person ?
@@slackjaw2643 so you think someone should come on JUST because of their skin colour? pretty racist my guy...
I’m not a pretty naive person. I know that not everything on the internet is what it seems. But damn this really did catch me off guard. Out of all the things that are fake online, watching the Try Guys for years really made it seem as if though Ned had the utmost love and respect not only for Ariel, but for his best friends and their company that they’ve spent years building. It’s horrible and really popped out of nowhere, and I think it just reinforced the fact of how fake the internet could be for me and many fans. Hope Ariel is ok and that’s she’s good with her kids :((
Not just the internet but life. He wasn’t just an internet face to them and yet they weren’t prepared for all this. It’s why more and more I like dogs. They don’t fake who they are and just give love. Pups before people! 😉
whats so odd for me is ned used to be my "favorite" try guy because he appeared so openly monogomous, soft, and sweet, and now i really really struggle to see any video where hes in it (which is almost all of the old ones). im autistic but for me specifically (not generalizing all autistic people) i dont read social cues well and i tend to be overly trusting, idealize/see the best in people, and continuallymiss red flags (which in retrospect feel so apparent now, but i never saw them in the moment). its just hard because so many videos now are ruined for me, and the try guys were truly a safe space where i could watch lighthearted and safe/trigger-free videos. now i dont have as much of that. i am so happy with the way the channel has transformed though. it feels a lot less artificial/more authentic.
“We were the Bill Nye of this generation” what Keith said was SO TRUE!
i didnt even think of it that way but hes right
The fact that the team had to worry about getting sued by Ned speaks volumes
Woah, that's a good point. Though I'm still cautious because we don't know the entire story.
I think at least in part that was because they didn’t know how all of this could go legally. Yeah he could still try to sue them but I doubt that would go well for him.
Yeah in this kind of situation that is always a possibility, whatever his attitude to it was it was something that they needed to seek advice on.
NEW CONTENT ALERT!!! (good idea😊😊)
well i think its probably just that ned had suddenly become a person they didn’t know. he kept something from them for so long that they can’t be sure what type of person he actually is anymore
In my life, I've never seen celebrities publicly handle an internal scandal so professionally. And I'm over 60. Your honesty, discretion and transparency are commendable. As a long-time fan I'm looking forward to seeing what new content you come up with.
As someone with 35+ less years of experience as you, it's great to hear your perspective and also so heartily agree with you. I used to watch the try guys when I was a teenager, and their professionalism and integrity in handling this situation has led me back to their content as an adult.
I think it just goes to show that these Guys are timeless. Their personalities, growth, and actions are relatable to all of us. Life is just taking what comes at us the best we can at the time.
tbf, i think its probably easier when you yourself weren't the person that did something wrong. I don't think ned will ever live this down LMAO
Don't act like they fired Ned for any reason than to preserve their careers, they only did it after the drama came out, the actual event happened nearly a year ago.
months later, the only thing that still sucks about this change is i miss ariel lol
yall have grown to even more INCREDIBLE heights
the tryceratops' are so proud of yall
"I think the stages of grief are a circle" absolutely and I feel like being super known on the internet restarts that grief cycle because everyone's talking about it and people might cross that line and ask and even interrogate you guys about it. I think this was the healthiest and best way to go about it, we're all super proud of you guys and want what's best for you going forward.
zach singing "you betrayed me, and i know that you'll never be sorry" was like a stab in the heart
It’s literally just an Olivia Rodrigo song. Not that deep
@@ACasualTrevor it has meanings bro
@@thuwsaysdearry sure it has a meaning, doesn’t mean it’s meaningful.
@@ACasualTrevor damn, that's deep.
Oh, so it was Zach he cheated on? I missed that part.
Miles going "sorry it's time to BeReal" actually made me SCREAM laughing
THE TIMING
Wtf is that an app famous in California?! I've never heard of it but they made it seem like "oh yeah, that app"
@@aleks-33 it's an app for american teens more than anyone else lol.
@@aleks-33 basically, the idea behind the app is it has no likes or follows, and they send a notification at a random time every day to take a photo, completely no filters, and completely real, thus the name 'BeReal'. my friends and i use it a lot in the uk, too, so it isnt exclusively in California.
@@aleks-33 not just in california, it’s extremely popular all throughout the states
Honestly this whole thing that has happened has only made me realize how mature Keith, Zach and Eugene are. How professionally they handled the situation. How much thought they put into their decisions.
After watching them be goofy and crazy for years I can really feel the growth of their characters as well
So much respect for you guys
Hope to see new awesome content from you guys
Keith talking about trees made me realize..... He should totally release a guided meditation. Even just the tiny snippet was so calm and soothing.
the fact that the guys tried their best to process this as carefully as ever because they didn't want to be sued by Ned tells me that Ned would actually sue them if he could.
This. When this has all died down, I would love to ask them if they genuinely thought Ned would sue, or outright said he would!
@@amy3971 honestly I could see him doing it if he had the opportunity. He’s losing his career, his marriage is on the brink, and his friendship with the guys sounds like it’s broken beyond repair. He doesn’t really have much else to lose, but could have had something to gain if this was handled poorly.
@@deltaloraine I think you’re absolutely right sadly.
@@deltaloraine that’s not even considering his major ego, wanting to be the center of attention, etc. so if he falls of and is irrelevant, he may want to stir the pot.
They did handle it beautifully, and I don't think we could count on Ned's remaining brain cells to realize that a court case would destroy any good reputation he might have left...lawsuits are public record! He'd never work again.
I gotta say, as a marketing student, this entire thing and how you guys handled it will serve as an example on HOW TO DO THINGS CORRECTLY.
wtf does marketing have to do with this
How you market your self and company with pr and hr is really important after controversy
I disagree. They could have handled it without the drama and without the apology videos to the fans or whatever, looks weird
EXACTLY, it's essential that you upload a monetized podcast episode about the situation as soon as possible.
@@l_a_u_y8916 I don't know. Like they said in the podcast, the internet was going to find the evidence and put the pieces together anyway, and with the way it blew up like it did it would be irresponsible to not address it with transparency. Sweeping it under the rug and quietly getting rid of ned would have sparked more questions and controversy, and likely put a more negative spotlight on the company as a whole
Zack is so well spoken. I’m so proud of all three of them for approaching this situation so maturely. Props!
This gives such a good example of healthy masculinity because they’re being human, they’re being vulnerable. Thank you guys for being the RUclipsrs we all love and deserve
Bruh, the only comment you got is a f*cking bot. Allow me to change that and say that you're absolutely right, and I hope that many young teens will take these men as an example. The Try Guys deserve happiness, and Ned deserves the karma for hurting Ariel and putting his best friends' careers at risk.
Sounds like the first month was kind of like watching a train coming at you in slow motion. Can’t imagine how much anxiety that caused y’all.
Zach about to make me cry with "if we had an impact on your life, you're allowed to feels sad" makes me feel like we are family bro
This. I got agonizing family news right after and I NEVER let my parents see my cry, but I shattered. And I KNEW it was because I see these men as family so this....this hurts. I am grieving with Eugene, Keith, and Zach, and everyone else.
parasocial relationships weird me out
😭😭😭😭
I actually was sad the entire day after the news came out. Nothing unrelated to my personal life has ever affected me like this did.
You are NOT their family and they do not care about you like that.
I love that Zach subtly dissed the buzzfeed employees who commented on the situation lmao
Hope they enjoyed being relevant again at the try guys expense
It was really some lame behavior. Like using this for clicks is wack
@@sandy80334 even then, it just paints them as bad people. Because if they knew Ned was cheating all along, why didn't they say anything to Ariel? 💀
It gave me like disgusting vibes. Like you aren’t part of their circle so don’t comment on shit u don’t know. Ofc if Ned did something at BZ sure they can comment but idk it was so off putting
@@Anitamustdie the only one I didn't mind was that one person who made a tiktok defending Keith, Eugene, and Zach. Saying that they're good people and they're doing their best to handle the situation accordingly. (I think they're someone who worked at buzzfeed, but maybe I'm wrong) Everyone else was being disgusting lmao.
It sounds like a divorce. The grief is real and needs to be worked through. I am so sorry for the loss you all have suffered, including Ned.
well, it actually kind of is on a business level, if not on a personal level. as they've said a couple of times, it's a break-up. and all that goes with that kind of mess as well.
This is the perfect example of actions having consequences, the domino effect. Ned’s actions not only hurt him, but his family, his friends, and his career. The Tri guys have handled this so well, great job guys.
Now we need to find out what consequences are being experienced by Alex for her own actions.
@@aprileatsguilty we likely never will, unless she chooses to talk about it herself. A, this is a hell of a tricky legal situation, and B, the guys have too much class for that and are likely to handle that part of the equation quite privately.
The Tri Guys(!!!!)
@@meggggg yep. you can see it in keith's face how dumbfounded he is by Ned's actions. absolutely destroyed.
@@ExhaustedSquirrel honestly this would be a nice name change into the new era. As they said it would still feel familiar but bc it would only be the three of them it would also signify change
The “that era of the try guys is over” speech from Zack was powerful af.
I'm excited ngl, I thought the audience had stayed too young as well as the content, which is why I stopped watching. I may sub again who knows
I loved it. Ned was far from enjoyable to me, and I am so happy he’s been cut loose and now we won’t lose out on the other three. Zach and Eugene have always been my favorites, and it seems Zach especially will blossom without having to completely alter his career now that Ned is out of the Try Guys. I got the sense that if this didn’t happen, then Ned would continue running things into the ground. Sure, they’d have had plenty of views etc because that frat boy Florida man thing is appealing to all of the people that act the same, but they weren’t giving off the same inclusive non toxic vibes that drew me to them.
@@jcam5064 Who knew the one consider the most timid of the 4, would be the one who would have to take the reigns on this situation? He's doing such a good job. I'm proud of him.
@@tammiegriffin5569 so proud of Zach 🥺
I won’t lie, it took me a year to finally watch/listen to this. I was so broken hearted with the whole situation. I’m even more broken hearted for you guys. I love this little team and I hope you guys are doing well, 11 months after the scandal.
Dang, looks like I’m not the only one.
I got to see Keith in Rosemont, IL with Lewberger just a few days after they found out. Keith - I thought you were phenomenal just as is, but to know that you were also dealing with the turmoil of this issue - only a truly talented and professional can handle this with such grace. Much love to you and Zach, Eugene and the rest of your staff.
The amount that Keith expressed being afraid of hurting other people is so contrary to Ned's behavior of just how many people he hurt.
Spot on 👏🏼 ned is a selfish pig
Honestly just the comment he made of feeling bad about how he killed a fly just strengthened my opinion that the other try guys would never do something this distasteful
@@alexisdamico738 Very true. While I was shocked about everything coming out, I have been turned off by Ned for awhile for aggro behavior and some potentially problematic, most-likely-to-have-masculinity-issues behavior in more casual situations like the Trypod. I will continue to support Keith, Eugene, and Zach and this opportunity for growth, change, and longevity of the channel and brand.
@@beyedoc me and my roommate both said when it all came out that Ned had been bothering us for awhile and had no clue why really💀💀so glad it wasn’t just us
@@alexisdamico738 same!! I wasn’t always sure what it was. I felt Ned was hiding something. I’m gonna be completely honest I thought he was gay possibly. Maybe I just got feminine vibes at the time but looking back I just felt like he was hiding something and potentially overcompensating with how much he’d talk about Ariel
The hurt in their eyes and how they don’t even want to say Ned’s name. It’s gut wrenching. We are in your guys side and here for you all. You will be better.
Especially Keith. He did not want to say Ned’s name at all unless he absolutely had too
Honestly, hearing them talk about it evens though it’s been a month, it’s still really fresh and I think it’s going to be for a long time but you know and I am going to say this frankly “F*** Ned”, we will ALL move past this because what they deserve at least is to have the support of us fans to be able to not just look at them for someone’s else’s mistake but continue to purely enjoy your content and the new Try guys ❤
They can't say his name for legal reasons.
It slipped through zach. Around 6:05
@@sweetakhadgi8077 i believe there's no legal ground do fire her. Ned was removed since he was a manager in a relationship with an employee.
I loved that at the end, they were like "we can't use Ned's closing thing anymore. HAVE A GOOD ASS WEEK!"
Coming back to watch this after Kieth did sell out his off broadway show 😢 proud of the growth from these guys 28:12
The Try Guys are probably one of the most professional, self aware and mature content creation companies I've seen. Its like a breath of fresh air of how well they've handled everything. Its nice to see Keith and Zach vent out their stresses and emotions after the fact while staying composed and well spoken.
Neds net worth is 10mill Zach and Keith are 2m each. That's why they blowing this out of proportion.
@@santiagonunez6294 They lost a friend. He betrayed their trust and abused his power in the workplace.They are allowed to feel however they want
@@santiagonunez6294 Aren’t you bored of spamming yet? Report them for spam please everyone.
@@magnum_cx8805 Yeah, they sound like an unsophisticated bot. Barely coherent sentence structure and keeps repeating itself. Reported the bot.
I went to Lewberger 9/10 and I have to say, I noticed Keith was upset. I even asked my s/o if he expected him to be more into it and animated. He was a good person to meet, but reserved. Now I realize he was obviously dealing with this and was doing the best he could and I don't like myself for judging his state of mind that night.
Zach singing “you betrayed me. And I know that you’ll never feel sorry…” even though he’s laughing, I felt that.
Here is the full clip : ned got exposed
ruclips.net/video/mCfYi7634rU/видео.html
All jokes carry some truth especially when people are emotional.
Felt like a cig burn on the cheek when I heard him. Sad, but glad they are processing and talking
@@AS-rr9km weirdly specific analysis, but I agree.
Dude Olivia Rodrigos sour album got me through my last breakup Keith is so real for that. So sorry you guys ever had to go through this, you deserved so much better from your friend.
i love working through things with it. it's so good for recovering from something
first time i heard the album i was like "damn this IS my high school breakup"
Me too man. Except it was a best friend breakup. Weirdly helped
@@glow2500 music can be so helpful, have you heard her new song? I’m not sure if she’s released the new album yet or not but it’s so good!!!
I feel like everyone's next big question/plea is: PLEASE TELL US ARIEL IS COMING BACK TO YOU CAN SIT WITH US?!?!
What a queen.
I can see that Eugene is still on house arrest so he doesn’t kill Ned but huge respect to all of the tri guys and their team
LMAAOOOOO
@@emily2202 that mans face in the what happened video has gone viral like I’m expecting news headline: Eugene from try guys confesses to murder of Cheating ex try guy Ned Fulmer, he walks away from court a free man
house arrest 😭😭😭
@@X5129X spinoff idea: the Try Guys try crimes of passion
Not house arrest. More mandatory home relaxation.
i am absolutely obsessed with the shift in “normal guys trying things” to “were not normal anymore so let’s get some more normal people in here (and diversify)” growth is so important and so good
Absolutely. I was an on/off watcher since the Buzzfeed days and this reasured me again why I keep coming back to their content. They just developed this wholesome company. I am frankly excited to see where they're headed - especially with Zach's content.
I like how the term trypod now perfectly refers to the 3 remaining members
i always did think it was a little _off_ before. yes, i know what it meant but part of my brain kept getting hung up on that tri means three, not four. four's a quad.
I'm sorry but I really respect Keith's comment about how some people mess up and determining the consequences for the mistake can be rough. It's so easy to shame and pass judgement on someone, but as Keith said, we ALL fuck up! And to be honest, just because this incident was public shouldn't change the fact that our private fuck ups are just as bad, if not worse. It's terrible, don't get me wrong, but I will be the first to admit, I'm definitely not a Saint either...I'm just fortunate to not have my shit on blast.
I like that they respect that Eugene doesn’t enjoy the podcast and that’s ok! I enjoy just these three plus the guests, when Eugene does stop by it’s because he really wants to be there.
I love that they respect his space and his decision, but you´re so right on this!
wait why doesn't eugene like the podcast?
@@k3a443 he doesn't enjoy *doing* it and he doesn't really need a reason, it's not our place to speculate either
@@k3a443 maybe he's just not a podcast fan!
@@k3a443 I’m guessing he wouldn’t want to make public statements that people can misconstrue or judge publicly. That would be my guess
Something I feel sorry for the boys about: watching Neds name in their phone dropping down, being texted less and less. Like in a friendship break up when you talked to that person every single day about your deepest, darkest secrets and now you don’t hear from them and they go from #1 in your messages all the way down, below the messages from spam companies etc. ugh :(
Delete your text history with them, then you don’t have to see it
i've thought about that recently with zach's wedding. i'm sure ned and ariel were both supposed to be in the wedding. it's sad to lose someone you care so much about, even when it's the right thing to do.
Keith: worrying about how this could negatively affect even people who have only appeared on the channel as a guest
Ned: didn’t even care enough about his wife and kids to stop himself from cheating and destroying his family.
Some people just don't care. I have an aunt who openly flirted in from of her teenage daughters. She's cheated on her husband for over 20 years, but he has never cheated on her. Both of their fathers cheated as well.
Some people are just selfish. It could be that Ned does love Ariel and his kids but wanted someone else too. I'm not trying to excuse his behavior, just trying to rationalize it.
Side note: when I saw that Gesiel moved out I told my mom "She's divorcing Tom's ass. You know he lied about retiring. She should leave him because he clearly puts his wants and needs above her and their kids."
Most of that could be true of Ned as well, for all I know.
I blame both. They're both cheaters but also enablers. He or her can't cheat if the other didn't enable it and told their significant other but they both chose to be cheaters and enable eachothers toxic behaviors. All 1 of them had to do was say no to the other and report it. Neither of them did. Both are equally toxic. she knew his wife personally and worked with/for her. That’s utter disrespect to Ariel and her own fiancé who PUT A RING ON IT. just think I hear in a lot of videos that it wasn’t her fault and I wanted to point out that they’re both in the wrong in some ways. She's not a victim, she has a HISTORY OF GOING AFTER MARRIED MEN, and everyone needs to realize that. I get that there was a power imbalance, but at the root of it all they have a very established friendship. I still think that they both should be held accountable to the same standards regardless. They messed around, hurt BOTH of their partners AND hurt their friends. I hate that his statement says "may have hurt", no you hurt your wife and family knowing full well what you were doing, no maybe there. Also Alexandria has known them for years so she fully knew he was married and had kids. She threw her 11 year relationship away while also helping destroy another family. There's also a clip from their podcast telling a story about pressuring a guy to have shots with her even though his gf is pregnant and doesn't want too. Hell they even had a video of her trying on wedding dresses for her upcoming wedding. People can keep bringing up power imbalance but she's a grown ass woman. They both knew better and both suck. What really bothers me is that Alex appears to be unwilling to take any kind of responsibility for her actions. She is a grown ass adult woman. She was not forced or pressured into anything. She willingly went along with a sexual relationship with this married man, her boss for over a year. Willingly. If she was not happy about anything, she knows she could have spoken to the other guys if she was uncomfortable. She knows that. How dare she.
@@liamtremblay6486 I completely agree with you, but when people bring up power imbalances they are talking about how she could sue if let go over this. They are both absolutely at fault, but she is an employee which brings up a lot of moral and ethical issues. Completely agree with you though.
Not only that, even if he didn't care about his family..he's not in the least bothered by the fact that it affected his career, livelihood, friendships, relationships...etc. I just don't comprehend. He's coming to 40. Not a wilful 14 year old. 🥴
And he has the gall to call it a work relationship instead of what it was - an AFFAIR!
Has almost been a year since this came out and y'alls probs won't see this but I just wanted to say that I'm here almost a year later watching this as a comfort video because I love how candid Keith, Zach and Miles are in this podcast. Y'alls really did handle this awesomely (from my no experience viewer standpoint heh). I'm happy that you guys have remained a source of comfort videos for me when my mental health is being a bit trash, don't worry it has gotten less trash over the years (tho have to shoutout a couple years back when my mental health was trash and y'alls droning on was getting me through my *hot girl mental health journey* days, I kid you not, I used to listen to y'alls while I weeded the backyard because I needed all the inputs to not panic). Thanks for the videos and podcasts, they've really come in handy over the years ❤
I often come back to this episode, usually when I'm going through a stressfull situation.. idk, makes me feel comfy?
I feel like having a series where you OCCASIONALLY revisit old formats on a rotation would be fun. You could call it “Tried & True”
T H I S 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Bravo!! Great title!!
I 100% want them to go back to eating spicy shit and waxing themselves. 😂😂😂
oh 1000%%%%%
"Tried and Tested"?
The way men are holding another man accountable, when it would’ve been easier to keep it all under wraps and sweep it aside is absolutely why y’all are my favorite creators. You could’ve responded differently or not spoken out, but you didn’t. You stepped up, you protected the innocent people, and you held him accountable for the wrongdoings. As hard as it is for us, the fans, I can’t imagine how many emotions y’all are feeling. The pain, the anger, the sadness, the fear, and everything else. You’re a perfect example of what this world needs. Y’all will still be my comfort creators no matter what
Important to note, their business was threatened.
It's nice to see men hold men accountable, but at the same time... It was more just "dump him before we sink with him"
how would it be easier to sweep it under the rug when the nternet knew about it before they came out with it? stop this parasocial nonsense
@@jadecoolness101 but they could have denied it, because the pictures were blurry, and fans were pretty on the fence if he’d was actually cheating. they could have covered it all under a rug, but they didn’t.
as opposed to aliens holding each other accountable?
I'm not an avid fan or anything, just seen a few videos over the years, but It's very refreshing to see transparency like this. They have my support
I just want to give Keith, Zach, and Eugene a big hug. Not just after all the drama, but just because they make me happy!
People who assume that they didn't immediately fire Ned because they only fired him after the backlash -- like they said, to fire someone at the top, they have to consult lawyers, HR, they probably have to consolidate and organize the evidence, interview employees, etc to avoid a potential lawsuit from Ned that could cost them millions. I think they could have briefly addressed that in the main channel since there's a minority of people who don't get it.
They said they launched an internal investigation, didn't they? Good enough.
I really hope Ariel can come back at some point. I don't know how likely that is, but she's a ray of sunshine and so sweet.
Completely agree. To me she always added so much to the channel (and in the past 1-2 years, more than he who shall not be named). She is so brilliant, it is so sad that her personal life has been completely upset, but also her professional life has at least been made far more complex
Can the other comments be recognised too this should be a positive channel people
@@sharks2571 I absolutely adore Ariel. She should have more of her interior design work showed off too like a spin-off show! I don’t care that Ned’s gone but I want Ariel to stay and get as much of her content out there as she wants.
i mean he's ned brand lol. Ariel is what makes ned interesting haha...
@@tana3875 yes, that would be so cool. I thought the try moms videos were really good, and the video about mammograms was genuinely important
Love Zach subtly shading the former Buzzfeed employees who decided to make this moment about them. 🤭
I was so surprised when that happened. I can understand venting vaguely about the situation.But there are some employees that I actually like, that were going to into too much in detail…
YES, some of them were so out of touch
@@wonderlucky1912 it left such a bad taste in my mouth when some of them went out and claimed that they knew all along Ned was like this? And that Ned has acted this way before? Seriously imagine how Ariel must’ve felt reading about these people commenting on how he’s been like this for years instead of reaching out to her personally.
I am happy that people called out their bullshit behavior
Yeees😂 lowkey hated how many people took this moment to say “well *I* wasn’t surprised!” Like bruh it’s not about you🤦♀️ just such a bad thing to try to profit from