One thing that so many seem to do that make a dually ride rough is tire pressure. I know so many that go 80 psi all the way around because the tire and manual states 80 psi. I have owned Dodge/Ram dually trucks for 20 years. I run 70 psi front, 45 psi rear when empty. Done the same with 3/4 ton diesel SRW. Every time the truck is serviced, they inflate to 80 psi, I drop the pressure as soon as I get home. I bump the rear up to 55-60 if towing heavy. I left the rear set at 45 psi and towed my 6,500 lb bay boat from NC to the Florida Keys and back, the truck rode great. Not only does the 80 psi make 2500 and 3500 trucks ride rough, 80 psi in the rear tires while empty wears the center of the tires and less tire on the road for control, especially in bad weather. I have a 2017 3500 dually Limited with 8' box. Removed the junk Nexen tires and installed Cooper tires running 70 psi front, 45 psi rear and Centramatic wheel balancers. Extremely smooth riding truck.
I agree, in most cases if you run the tire pressure slightly below recommended, you can easily soften the ride without modifications. GM trucks don’t allow you to run tire pressure lower than 58 psi (without a light coming on) so thankfully their trucks ride better right out of the gate, thanks for sharing!
Perfect explanation. My 3500 dually had 80psi when purchased. Terrible ride, UNTIL rear wheels went to 50PSI. Night and Day difference... dually stability great for bumper pull, or 5th wheel. 👍
@@JB_WhoWork - Good to know about GM. I have been looking at trading my Tahoe for a new 2500 High Country with Duramax. Riding around with 60 psi on the rear of a SRW just wear the center of the tires. Kind of ridiculous with the light
@@kevincameron8437 - My truck gets good mileage but I am sure it would get a little better with higher tire pressure, I have never checked because I have never taken a trip with 70-80 psi in all tires. I had the dually serviced and inspected a few weeks ago, they inflated the fronts to 80 and rear to 75. It had a little bounce but when I got home could see by the markings on the tires that only approx 70-75% of the rear tire surface was actually on the road. Just my opinion, but that is losing too much traction in heavy rain conditions.
It’s easy to park and deal with a dually and/or long bed. People just aren’t used to them. They generally don’t buy enough truck and then want huge trailers. I personally only buy long beds and wouldn’t have a truck any other way. Higher ratings over standard bed trucks and no worry of slider hitches, etc.
I had dually for towing my 16K 5th wheel. I didn’t mind the rougher ride but parking was always a pain. Last summer I traded my dually for a new GMC Sierra SLT and now have a 7600 pound trailer. Towing is better and I love the SRW truck.
Nice video. That radiant red on the Chevy is just awesome. Anyways, what changes on the GM front suspension is the torsion bars. There’s four different part numbers depending on which axle rating you have. The standard ratings are 4800 (gas), 5200 (gas with HD front springs/camper package), 5600 (standard diesel OR gas with snow plow prep package) and 6000 (diesel with snow plow prep OR HD front springs/camper package). Also JB not everyone likes painted bumpers. I like them just fine, but I also think that dually in that color with the chrome bumpers is just awesome. It’s color dependent for me. White looks better painted. Just lighter colors in general look better painted to me. But bright colors, chrome for the win.
I knew that would catch your eye lol! Thanks for sharing this, I figured something was different to carry extra load! This day in age every truck should have painted (sport) look because most people I speak to complain about that with GM/Ford DRW
I been driving a 1989 gmc 2500 8 foot bed 2005 gmc 2500 with 8 foot bed and a 2015 chevy with a 8 foot bed if I buy another truck I'll get a 8 foot bed cause I have no problem driving those trucks I prefer those over a 6 foot bed
I've had Standard, Long SRW and a Long DRW. Didn't notice much difference in ride or towing a 37ft 5th wheel and travel trailers. The biggest issue I had with the DRW was lack of car wash. I don't mind hand washing, however during the winter months is a challenge. My next truck will be a F-350 Long Bed with SRW. You don't have to worry about the sliding hitch and get larger fuel tank.
JB ...I love your videos so much information..just bought 3500 duramax 2024..I don't have a 5th wheel YET..looking at dutchmen VOLTAGE 3800...for 2 full size Harleys..is this a good fit?...thank you again for your hard work on putting your videos out...whit😊
The dually isn't much wider because they are the same width at the mirrors. It's the length and turning radius that makes them harder to park. I can throw my DRW into most any parking spot I want to. I go through drive thrus all the time also. I originally wanted a SRW, but a DRW came up with everything I was looking for and only cost a little more, so now I can pull anything I want in the future.
@@JB_WhoWork I think you should do more reviews where you start with a truck and then move to an RV that’s suitable for it. Sort of mix and match. I’d watch that.
Some of the misunderstanding is GM's own tv advertisements show a triple axle toy hauler behind a SRW truck. Also when will the RV manufactures start listing the real weights in their specs? My 5th wheel listed specs were no where close to the real weights, this was brand new on the way home by Cat scale. I even wish if the dealers add options, they should be included in the spec. 3 awning slides and 2 AC units add weight. Just changing from 15" China tires to 16" Goodyears added 120 pounds. This stuff adds up quickly.
If I get a srw instead of a dually, does that allow use of a wider tire all around? I am mostly concerned with soft ground and sand. In my case considering the ram trucks to get the mega cab, which unfortunately isn't offered by anyone else. Thank you
The factory mirrors are bigger than than the past. If they made the mirror taller and wider and the mirror housing as wide as a class 8 truck that can see around and along the side of a trailer.. would save a lot of grief because the typical and trailer towing pick-up mirror visibility is lacking..
On the SRW truck, it would probably not be possible to stay under the 30k GCVWR. The trailer would be nearly 20 and the truck at max would be 12 something.
the most underrated truck salesman that never sold trucks💯 man you can sell a vehicle just with the informative descriptions
Actually I used to sell long time ago
One thing that so many seem to do that make a dually ride rough is tire pressure. I know so many that go 80 psi all the way around because the tire and manual states 80 psi. I have owned Dodge/Ram dually trucks for 20 years. I run 70 psi front, 45 psi rear when empty. Done the same with 3/4 ton diesel SRW. Every time the truck is serviced, they inflate to 80 psi, I drop the pressure as soon as I get home. I bump the rear up to 55-60 if towing heavy. I left the rear set at 45 psi and towed my 6,500 lb bay boat from NC to the Florida Keys and back, the truck rode great.
Not only does the 80 psi make 2500 and 3500 trucks ride rough, 80 psi in the rear tires while empty wears the center of the tires and less tire on the road for control, especially in bad weather.
I have a 2017 3500 dually Limited with 8' box. Removed the junk Nexen tires and installed Cooper tires running 70 psi front, 45 psi rear and Centramatic wheel balancers. Extremely smooth riding truck.
I agree, in most cases if you run the tire pressure slightly below recommended, you can easily soften the ride without modifications. GM trucks don’t allow you to run tire pressure lower than 58 psi (without a light coming on) so thankfully their trucks ride better right out of the gate, thanks for sharing!
Perfect explanation. My 3500 dually had 80psi when purchased. Terrible ride, UNTIL rear wheels went to 50PSI. Night and Day difference... dually stability great for bumper pull, or 5th wheel. 👍
@@JB_WhoWork - Good to know about GM. I have been looking at trading my Tahoe for a new 2500 High Country with Duramax. Riding around with 60 psi on the rear of a SRW just wear the center of the tires. Kind of ridiculous with the light
How does your fuel mileage go w/ the lower PSI? I've found I get better MPH closer to 70-75 PSI and the ride is decent.
@@kevincameron8437 - My truck gets good mileage but I am sure it would get a little better with higher tire pressure, I have never checked because I have never taken a trip with 70-80 psi in all tires. I had the dually serviced and inspected a few weeks ago, they inflated the fronts to 80 and rear to 75. It had a little bounce but when I got home could see by the markings on the tires that only approx 70-75% of the rear tire surface was actually on the road. Just my opinion, but that is losing too much traction in heavy rain conditions.
Want a harsh ride? Freightliner has entered the chat. 😂
It’s easy to park and deal with a dually and/or long bed. People just aren’t used to them. They generally don’t buy enough truck and then want huge trailers. I personally only buy long beds and wouldn’t have a truck any other way. Higher ratings over standard bed trucks and no worry of slider hitches, etc.
I had dually for towing my 16K 5th wheel. I didn’t mind the rougher ride but parking was always a pain. Last summer I traded my dually for a new GMC Sierra SLT and now have a 7600 pound trailer. Towing is better and I love the SRW truck.
Nice, I did the same and have enjoyed the smaller trailer 👍🏾
I kept my dually but got a smaller trailer went from a 5th wheel to a bumper pull Winnebago so far so good.
Chevy give us the Z71 Sport edition in a LT or LTZ Dually! They will sell!
I agree, I would take painted bumpers at the very least
Nice video. That radiant red on the Chevy is just awesome.
Anyways, what changes on the GM front suspension is the torsion bars. There’s four different part numbers depending on which axle rating you have. The standard ratings are 4800 (gas), 5200 (gas with HD front springs/camper package), 5600 (standard diesel OR gas with snow plow prep package) and 6000 (diesel with snow plow prep OR HD front springs/camper package).
Also JB not everyone likes painted bumpers. I like them just fine, but I also think that dually in that color with the chrome bumpers is just awesome. It’s color dependent for me. White looks better painted. Just lighter colors in general look better painted to me. But bright colors, chrome for the win.
I knew that would catch your eye lol!
Thanks for sharing this, I figured something was different to carry extra load!
This day in age every truck should have painted (sport) look because most people I speak to complain about that with GM/Ford DRW
I been driving a 1989 gmc 2500 8 foot bed 2005 gmc 2500 with 8 foot bed and a 2015 chevy with a 8 foot bed if I buy another truck I'll get a 8 foot bed cause I have no problem driving those trucks I prefer those over a 6 foot bed
I've had Standard, Long SRW and a Long DRW. Didn't notice much difference in ride or towing a 37ft 5th wheel and travel trailers. The biggest issue I had with the DRW was lack of car wash. I don't mind hand washing, however during the winter months is a challenge. My next truck will be a F-350 Long Bed with SRW. You don't have to worry about the sliding hitch and get larger fuel tank.
That’s the perfect truck, Ford CCLB with standard 48 gallons of fuel 💪🏾
Ford quality control is abysmal. Consider another brand.
I’ve had Rams and fords. I believe ford is way better than any other offering. But YMMV
If trailer has 6 wheels, truck should probably too!
Not true, my boat trailer has tri axles
I agree, big trailers should have big trucks 👍🏾
@@armytruth6860 with a little bit of common sense, a half ton will haul a boat.
Nah….. People tow tandem-dual goosenecks with 2500 trucks all the time with no issues
F450 5k payload 40k max tow turns on a dime .. mic drop 🎤
FYI if you are near a Discount Tire they do free rotation and they do it right by taking the tires off the rim.
I also see way too many trucks over payload with heavy truck campers on SRW.
JB ...I love your videos so much information..just bought 3500 duramax 2024..I don't have a 5th wheel YET..looking at dutchmen VOLTAGE 3800...for 2 full size Harleys..is this a good fit?...thank you again for your hard work on putting your videos out...whit😊
Would that be a good fit?
This why we love our dually
My main hotshot truck is a dually because I pull a 44' gooseneck and I am usually at capacity.
Now that’s a big trailer… most I ever towed was just under 18k so I couldn’t image another 15k on top of that 😅
The dually isn't much wider because they are the same width at the mirrors. It's the length and turning radius that makes them harder to park. I can throw my DRW into most any parking spot I want to. I go through drive thrus all the time also. I originally wanted a SRW, but a DRW came up with everything I was looking for and only cost a little more, so now I can pull anything I want in the future.
Quite a comprehensive analysis
Thanks bro!
@@JB_WhoWork I think you should do more reviews where you start with a truck and then move to an RV that’s suitable for it. Sort of mix and match. I’d watch that.
Some of the misunderstanding is GM's own tv advertisements show a triple axle toy hauler behind a SRW truck. Also when will the RV manufactures start listing the real weights in their specs? My 5th wheel listed specs were no where close to the real weights, this was brand new on the way home by Cat scale. I even wish if the dealers add options, they should be included in the spec. 3 awning slides and 2 AC units add weight. Just changing from 15" China tires to 16" Goodyears added 120 pounds. This stuff adds up quickly.
I appreciate the video. I ask that you slow down when moving the camera. I like to check out the details, and quick movements make it hard to watch.
I probably should have changed cameras while inside the rv 👍🏾
Great information !!
Thanks!
If I get a srw instead of a dually, does that allow use of a wider tire all around? I am mostly concerned with soft ground and sand. In my case considering the ram trucks to get the mega cab, which unfortunately isn't offered by anyone else. Thank you
u should get weight safe gooseball to show the pin weight on each trailer
The factory mirrors are bigger than than the past.
If they made the mirror taller and wider and the mirror housing as wide as a class 8 truck that can see around and along the side of a trailer.. would save a lot of grief because the typical and trailer towing pick-up mirror visibility is lacking..
On the SRW truck, it would probably not be possible to stay under the 30k GCVWR. The trailer would be nearly 20 and the truck at max would be 12 something.
Keep in mind the weight transfer which means over a scale, the trailer would look more like 16000 lbs. + the GVW of truck 👍🏾
I've never seen a set of aftermarket wheels on a dually that sit flush with the fender in the rear... is it even possible?
I’ll stick with my 2018 Ram 3500 Limited (DRW).
Was it just me or the camera , that SRW looked to be a hair taller than the dually ?
I noticed that too. I think it's because of the different front wheel sizes.
@@JetTech1966 if you look closely , both ends are taller .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 I'm guessing wheel size is doing that.
@@JetTech1966 wheel size changes nothing , tire size does , my guess is that like mine the SRW has the plow prep group .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 I apologize. You are correct but that's where I was coming from as well...
5600 and 6000lbs for front axle? My 24 2500 is rated for 6000 for front
Yes if you get the camper pkg and long bed SRW have 6k GAWR 👍🏾
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