DRW vs SRW for Towing our RVs? Which is BETTER? Our Pros & Cons to Both Options | Fulltime RV Living
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James Chick (@ The Chick's Life) and I share why we each picked different options when it came to choosing a Dually vs Single Rear Wheel truck to tow our 5th Wheels. Plus you'll be surprised to learn that not all Dually trucks are created equal! We list our Pros & Cons to both trucks so you can make a informed decision on which truck is best for you!
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Would strongly suggest that anyone who is considering a new tow truck watch Marc of Keep Your Daydream video on towing. I towed heavy boats professionally for over 30 years and I learned some things from Marc that I had not considered before. In the end it all boils down to numbers that go beyond the horsepower and stated tow capacity of the truck you are considering. By the numbers most RV's I see on the road are being towed by trucks with axles that have too low a carrying capacity and trucks that have too small of a combined weight rating. It's tough to buy a new truck only to find out it does not have the correct capacity to tow your desired rig.
Very well done. You made it simple. Things can get complex,you stayed out of the weeds, and were on point.
Thank you
Best video on oicking a truck and fifth wheel. Alot of awesome info. Thank yall for this video and yalls research. 👍👍
I have enjoyed each of your posts in the past. I have learned a great deal from each of you. In point of fact I purchased my Demco hitch after watching the benefits to a short bed. The only issue of concern with our 2005 Dodge Ram 2500, was additional stability on long hauls such as our recent trip to Sturgis with our Keystone Raptor 3912LEV. Upon our return home within one week of unhitching the rig I blew a steel belt in my driver side rear tire. It was so unnerving that in the last month I removed the SRW axle and replaced it with a DRW axle with a 3.73 ratio both before and after. 13 MPG for 4200 miles. Driving from Florida to South Dakota I had but one fear, a rear blowout with the SRW. I was smart enough to purchase a TPMS prior to the trip which I admit my eyes were glued to 90 percent of the time. The Potholes of Illinois and St.Louis scared me the most. Dually rear wheels will let you limp of the road to the shoulder or to the next exit. If you have a single rear wheel blow out, you are stuck where you are with rim damage as well.
Keep up the good work and thanks for the tips.
This brings back memories! We miss you guys(yuns)! You may have been jealous of my truck back then, but I’m super jealous of your Jeep now! 😁
Yes great memories!! Looking forward to seeing yuns again!
Great video. Good info from 2 guys who are actually living with your choices and talking about good and bad. We’re in the market for a new tow ride for our 11500 trailer and have been looking at dually and srw. Been Leaning towards older ford 7.3 but might have to revisit the dodge 1 ton srw for the maneuverability. Great points. Thanks guys for video.
Glad it helped!! Thanks
Great info for all that have a big fifth wheel..have a great day , BLESS YOU ALL.
Thank you 😊
Good video and information. I tow a 35' Montana with 06 dodge 5.9 3500 srw completely stock.
Howdy y’all- great information guys. Lookin forward to the next video. God bless all of ya’ll
Thank you!!
Great information guys! Thank you so much!
Thanks
Great info, thanks 👍. Y’all take care and God bless ✌️
Thanks
The safety mindset of the dually and having one extra tire if one blows is wrong in most cases. The majority of time when you actually blow a tire on a dually it's actually the good tire that blows. Reason for this is it's doing double duty taking the load for both tires because the other tire is low or flat, so it heats up until it can't take it anymore and blows leaving you with 2 flat tires on the side of the road. But this is why a walk around before any trip is a big thing so you can find that low tire before you are left stranded with two tires or better yet a tpms system to alert you while driving incase you've picked up something to cause a tire to go flat or over heat the good tire.
Thanks for the comparisons, we’re planning on extended travel with a 5er in a couple of years. Nice to have this info in one spot. Will save it to show hubs as he understands this stuff. I’m thinking choose the rig then find the truck to pull it....I like the buffer, have a truck with more capacity than what the trailer has/is.
Glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful!
Great head to head comparison and reasonings. I always love the blowout comment. What if the front blows out? Big note to everyone to check the rear capacity. My 07 Cummins megacab SRW only has 1900lb capacity. Subtract the family and fuel... ouch! (Pretty certain it was some strange conservative time as the GVWR is only 9000 lbs!?) I did up to some 19.5 wheels for added safety margin.
We have a 2010 Dodge Ram 3500. It’s had its issues but it’s been a great option for us. Our trailer is close to the max of our truck. However we usually travel to a location for months on end. So we haven’t had a ton of issues. If our travel style changes we will definitely consider changing trucks and or RV.
Thanks for the insight!!!
Love this video.
That change from 2009 to now for GM duallies is massive.
Great video guys you 🪨 Rock
I was in a Dooley and had a blowout on the back of it and it actually took out the other tire for sure I wouldn’t pull in the trailer
I would also mention, regarding looking at tires, that I hate today's tendency for the dealer/manufacturer to put 22" wheels on. Those make for a rougher ride and very expensive replacements. I would much prefer 17 or 18".
Honestly, having a dually vs a single rear axle only really matters on the "tongue weight" and axle gear ratio that you'll need
Wow sway is real scary, We know we are going to buy a bigger RV so we have just a Dodge dually with a Cummins. We love it. With the travel trailer we have now you can’t even feel it during tow. Buying the truck was the first step in going full time
Awesome! Wish y’all the best!
Age of the vehicles is also really important. I know people that have bought old diesels that have less HP and torque than a new gas.
Seems like that trailer life link isn't working. Really interested in seeing truck comparisons. Awesome video.
Love your videos and the great family you two have. But had to comment on this one.
So on the comments about stability and traction on the dually please understand that traction is actually reduced. In snow, ice, and wet roads the rear end of a dually will break free easier than a SRW. The dual wheels can hydroplane easier too. I chose my truck and did debate but ultimately I also use it to get into the snow and go over mountain passes empty so I chose the SRW. As for the dually 1 ton sitting better than a single rear wheel 1 ton that’s not really true either. Both have 1 ton suspension. If you don’t need airbags on a dually you won’t need them on a SRW towing the same camper (assuming same year and model of truck). Now if you’re leveled like the dodge in the video was then yes, when you attach the load the rear will drop and make the front sit high which is fixed with airbags.
I tow a 13k pound 35’ fifth wheel. Which actually on my stock truck (2017 F350) I had to lift the trailer 3.5 inches to make it ride level and avoid uncomfortably close bed to trailer clearance.
seansoasis Great info! Thank you.
Thank you for this. Not much out there about the variances. You might not be able to answer this but I'm a FWD or AWD fan. But the Class B camper van I want come with FWD, or DWD. It will be 19.5 ft long and will be driven in the rainy Pacific Northwest. Do you have any comments about which will be safer or could you point me to a resource? TIA
I have a 2016 RAM 3500 and want a SRW 3500 with the HO. It has more tow capacity than my dually but I have more payload.
James, I would say a con is those mirrors. I tried to like them, but I wish they had the vertical mirrors like GM or Ford.
Dually, regardless
Unless you enjoy being blown around in cross winds or passing big rigs.
I read someone saying the dually had less traction, not something I ever experienced with a 4500lb pin weight.
3 fifth wheels including 1 toy hauler I would never use a srw again.
Both do work just the dually is less stress in a stressful conditions.
Happy travels all
Agreed! Thank you
Finally some common sense!
Ford had issues with the 7.1L but over all they've been the number one selling truck for a very long time, over 50 years
DRW vs SRW you failed to mention tire weight capacity...two tires can carry more weight without the tire capacity
being overloaded than can a srw regardless of advertised payload.
Thought James got his because of the cool wheels
I have missed him on RUclips lately
I think they posted a video today!
I like a 4-door dually gas engine with a 460 big block. With dual carburetors and turbo. Horsepower has to be around a thousand a 2000 horsepower. Also with a big can of Nos to climb big hills around Smokey mountains. And also have flowmaster to let people know you climbing the hill.
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or if ur being serious
@@dbag222 I'm series
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Don’t get caught being over especially in Texas boys I live here in Highlands,Tx. Under class Lics. We’re only allowed 26,000. No matter what u hauling.
Yayyyyy 😁💜 Lovin this
Thank you 😊
18,000# 3 axle Trlr F350 dually for me 2019
Nice 👍
The older trucks, like the dually in this video, aren't rated to tow as much as the newer trucks like the Ram in the video. I can't find too much that they have changed on these trucks (within reason and speaking of trucks that aren't too old either, 2010 and up let's say) for them to tow so much more other than advertising.
The Dully gives u more Weight to carry. Verses the short bed truck.
I Just wanted to talk about the turning radius. you would not believe this but the Dodge 4500 DRW long box would turn better than his Dodge 3500 SRW short box.. because of the wide track axle in front. I had the f 350 Ford SRW short box now I have the F-450 dually long box and it's turning radius is 18% better. it's crazy where I can do a u-turn.
Yep these newer trucks turn way better!! Thanks for watching
If it has A Automatic transmission it weighs 10,000. Lbs nowadays the manual transmission will weigh under 3-to 5.000 lbs. so u could away hailing more weight with manual transmission.
Enjoyed the video. I have an F350 long bed dually and maneuvering it and the 39’ 5th wheel can be a challenge sometimes.
Thank you 😊
That’s why we went with an F450 way better turning radius.
@@michaelfinley9988 had I known the 450 was so much better turn wise we would have bought one when we bought our truck. Too late now. Not going back into debt for one.
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With those elephant ears flipped up, Ram is actually wider than dually. I know I got close to smacking other trucks with those flappers. Mirrors down for me whenever I can.
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Until 2020 Chevrolet is always been way behind in payload and Towing capacity. Out of the big three Chevrolet is the worst for heavy loads and constant work but it is comfortable while you’re sitting on the side of the road waiting for it to cool down
ram dually best of both worlds
you forgot the link
Sorry about that! www.trailerlife.com/trailer-towing-guides/
The gas engines have come so far. We have a 38 ft travel trailer. The 6.4 hemi pulls great 11.8 miles a gallon at 65mpg. You don't need a diesel
I have heard good things about those. But the torque on diesels can’t be beat.
@@LoftisPartyofSix I know . I've had both for many years. Def systems are killing the diesels that's the only problem. We run diesel sprinters for my plumbing business. Brand New and all having issues
@@boyeatsworld-vr9ci try a new gas the game has changed. I'm not saying gas is better. The gap of diesel being so much better is not there anymore
@@boyeatsworld-vr9ci pairing the right transmission to the right engine helps a gas engine tow pretty well. Bring your diesel to my house will my set up and I will show you. I've had diesels all my life. The only gap between the two now is the diesel engine will last longer. But you pay for that up front. I know a about compression. That's not the argument here
@@boyeatsworld-vr9ci I'm talking about a 3500 hundred dually towing a camper. I'm not talking about heavy equipment. I'm not talking commercial vehicle. I'm saying towing a 10 thousand or less lbs camper you don't need a diesel. My point my Ford 6.0 diesel 2004 pulls my camper like dog shit compared to my 2018 ram with 6.4 hemi
The only good thing with diesel that truck is good for A Million miles as Long as U take care of it.
A Goose box will give more room in the Bed. Less weight
And sorry, one more thing only because you both had fifth wheels, even you have a "bumper pull" you NEED a weight distribution hitch, do not pull your travel trailer without one!
You should have got a mic
When you're shopping for a 5th wheel, don't let the dealer fool you by using UVW rather than GVWR. If you run through a weigh station, they will look at your door sticker and 5th wheel sticker and if you weigh more, you'll get a ticket.
If your not towing for hire with a dot number you are not subject to being weighed.
F O R D that is all lol
Caroline West lol
Found on road dead? Or Fix Or Repair Daily. 😂
The trucks apparently are better built than our 1996 Windstar that ended up found on road dead.
@@Elizabeth-rq1vi lol. I like first on race day. I know lol
Caroline West haha...our Windstar sure was able to speed, great pick up...didn’t feel fast but according to the speeding tickets it was able to speed😂. It was a design flaw that eventually caused its demise (found on road dead), coolant into engine block but Ford wasn’t fixing 1996s, just 1997 & newer because they changed the flaw from one way to another.
@@Elizabeth-rq1vi None of my children drive a Ford either lol but I still like the old Ford trucks.
Cumming engines good.. Ram body parts and body will rust out in 3/4 years. hence there priced cheaper overall. Chevy was once good with the 6.0 liter v 8, but gov took over.
The years of your trucks are to far apart a lot has changed between you year trucks even in 2020 when you di your video now in 2021 even more has changed and it's just now towing capacity it's pay load too. You are putting out incorrect information.
"Because RAMS are better."
4 me I chose a Dually because at slippery boat ramps, it's all about surface area contact. I tow a 38TopGun & boat ramps can b an abso-feckin-lute pain in the ass. Especially in warm climates. Haven't had any problems, but I've seen plenty with SRW trucks b not so lucky. I always offer assistance in these situations & I'm sure my truck has converted a few people.🤣