I bought a 2007 Silverado 2500 HD Classic Crew Cab with the LBZ engine. I bought the truck new. It now has 340,000 miles and still runs like new. I'm very happy with it.
I bought my 06 LBZ in 2007 with 25,000 miles. It’s a 4wd CCLB dually LTZ. I was 20yo when I got it and I’m now 37 and she’s got around 190k miles on her. I’ve also got a 21 4wd CCLB LTZ dually. It’s as comfortable as a Cadillac, and drives like one too, but the 06 is still my favorite to drive. When I was young and single I was able to modify it quite a bit. I still love her sound and power! My wife told me once I should think about selling it. I’d rather have a divorce 😂! Too many good memories in that truck, which is one reason she says I should sell it(jokingly). She said “yeah memories of all the different girls you’ve had in the back seat.” I just looked at her and said, “well….you remember where I first bagged you at don’t ya?😉”
I have an 07lbz, and my brother has a 06 5.9 cummins. Love the acceleration, turbo whistle, and steering of the lbz. I must say though that I was amazed by the extra room and simplicity of the 5.9 + the torque it has, downshifts less than my lbz.
My son is a diesel mechanic, he said the Cummins is the easiest to work on, the GM is the most comfortable to drive, but the Ford supports him with repairs and paid for his daughter’s nursing school education. Lol
With my experience in shops the best mechanics for a certain brand always hate that brand the bmw mechanic drove an audi and the audi mechanic drove a beamer. Its all just about what you see come in yo your bay
850,000km on my 2001 duramax. 691,000 on my 2012 duramax. Very very reliable with very little problems. Both Pulled strong up to 35,000lbs. So they were not babied
I have a 2000 5.9 Cummins with 200 miles of wonderful service. It never let me down towing a 37 ft. fifth wheel camper, all over the U SA, and Canada and Alaska. We lived in the camper for ten years, and never worried. I first bought a new Chevrolet, which lasted just a bit over one year till it failed to the point it didn't have enough power to tow my trailor up a slight hill.
@@shemwhitehead9517 it’s no longer made by Allison. It’s an Allison design made by GM so they can put the nameplate on their trucks but the manufacture has gone in house.
@@FlatPlaneCranky that is true but don't forget allison and GM was making them together in house so it's up in the air if its any different in the GM ones in the 3500 with the Allison stamp on it i don't know but they did it like that in the 2020 trucks that's why im happy mines a 2019 3500 with the real allison in it lol
My first diesel was an '04 Dodge/ Cummins 5.9L. 14 years later at 216K miles and no out of pocket money spent except a water pump I now have an '18 Ram 6.7L. I stay with my success.
@@iitzDiRTY I'm driving my fourth Ram and fortunately I've never had any transmission problems. And to attest to what @Karl Kutzer said, here in the desert southwest there are many hotshot trucks. My best estimate would be 70% are Rams, followed by Ford and then GM.
@@miguelitomigra543 I’m glad the rams are holding up well for you guys & giving you zero issues. I personally will never touch Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep products but to each his own. I own a Peterbilt 579 so I don’t need to haul heavy with my pickup nor would I want to. I wouldn’t trust pulling heavy loads without the assistance of a jake brake especially not on steep downgrades. Trying to keep that trailer with a heavy load from pushing me down a grade with only hydraulic brakes to try & hold it gives me anxiety just thinking about it. I’m glad you guys are getting good use out of your trucks & they are working well for you, be safe out there fellas, cheers. Question: why are you on your fourth RAM? What’s wrong with the other three? My 95 ford with a power stroke 7.3 that I bought used, is still in mint condition.
@@iitzDiRTY well there you have a point. That is the weak spot in the ram until 2015 I bought a 3500 4x4 crew cab long bed drw. With the aiasin 6 spd it’s the first automatic I’ve owned as of right now it has 332442 miles on it still running good
I'll add this little fact. I managed a 110 vehicle fleet before I retired that was comprised of the "Big 3". Diesel engines aside, by far the brand we had the most problems with was GM. The most common problems? Engine wiring harnesses, exhausts breaking and falling off the 2500 HD 4x4's (literally) and breaking IFS components. And what's worse, we had a constant battle with GM trying to get them to warranty their products. Their ultimate fix for two dozen exhaust systems was to weld them back together and reinstall. Why did we have so many GM's? They were the low bidder. Nearly all the issues we had with Dodge Rams and vans were transmission related. I understand this video is about diesel engine comparisons, but you also have to consider the overall package that they are installed in. There is one component that is a total deal breaker for me when it comes to 3/4 ton pickups, and that's the independent front suspension and torsion bars on the GM's.
Where did you come up with an 05 without emissions? My 03 was about the last ones I have seen. Even my buddies 04 has an EGR system and a particulate filter.
@@jamesglenn520 I have an 04.5. 5.9's never had an EGR or Particulate filters. 04.5 to 07 had cats. So did the 03 to 04 SO engines that were California legal.
Ive owned both. I had a 2006 LBZ and loved it but i am a p-pump man at heart. Both great engines but i will always prefer my good old ppump 12 valve 5.9 Cummins
I like how open and unbiased the information. Being a mechanic myself, the INFO was spot on. Also, it was quite educational for me. Some of the INFO & knew, some I didn't which means the video was quite educational, especially on the older model engines...THANKS!!!
I'm a GM / Dodge guy myself. I prefer the older stuff. My current daily is a 94 GMC crew cab flat bed 4x4 with a gen 1 Cummins with 5 speed and a Watson box behind the trans, so it's currently setup as a 10 speed. 3 sticks on the floor. Dead simple reliable setup. Unique as hell...
How often do you use all ten gears ? , I'm a old truck driver and I love gears preferably a manual, I swear buy Cummins and have wondered if ram has stuck with the 6 speed simply because of the fat torque curve not needing so many gears, I've driven the 10 speed Ford's and it seems like they're always hunting for a gear
I'm a heavy hauler so yes I stand by my 2015 6.7 cummins with a big smile on my face. NO problems after 200,000 miles and my buddy has gone through 3 duramax trucks and way to many problems.
I’m not trying to be a Stereotypical douche but please get your front drive shaft and transfercase inspected or replaced sometime soon. I’ve seen so many trucks get totaled out by insurance because the front driveline exploded and sent a driveshaft through the floor making them total it because they don’t want to spend the money or time getting it repaired. Edit: I’m talking about your 4th gen 6.7
Nice job. I’ll keep my 98 Ram 3500. When the shut off solenoid went out 7 years ago I was able to fix it and get home with a shoe string. Drove it that way for a few months before I decide to fix it right. Do that with you common rail diesels. Gliding in towards a million miles now. Still runs great.
@@otakufenris517 well if you were to put a mutt like this together, I'm pretty sure everything would be built. Why put forth the money and effort on all stock parts?
I’ve had an 04 Cummins, ran like a top, easy to work on or maintain. A 7.3 with a katrillion miles that was reliable but dog slow, a 6.0 that was deleted that was decent but both always needed work and just bought an L5P that I LOVE. Overall I like the GM better but both are good trucks.
100% agree on all points! I love my 2019 L5P. I installed a RDS 64mm unit as well and it does very well. I hot shot and my truck has 290,000 miles on it. Still runs like new!
We have a diesel shop and it seems like we work on cummins way more than duramax! However, just for how easy they are to work I would own a cummins all day long. The duramax does not hardly brake but they sure suck to work on!
My very first deisel truck I bought is a 2008 dodge 3500 6.7 cummins. Shortly after I bought the truck I had to do a head gasket with a.r.p head studs and had tbe exhaust worked on and had to do fuel injectors. Other then all that the body and Chassis is in great shape and everything works well . So far I love the truck and I hope it goes a long while.
180,000 miles on my 2017 Ram / Cummins and never a single issue. Just regular maintenance and she’s still pulling as strong as the day I bought her brand new.
The amount of times I’ve read a comment just like this is astounding it’s a $60,000 dollar truck it better be running good with only 180,000 miles my vw has 212,000 miles and I’m not over here bragging, for your sake I hope it keeps going strong.
Im driving a 93 toyota 22re with 370000 miles. Not much good at towing or hauling, but great on gas and not burning oil yet!!! My other truck has a cummins 6.7.
I’m in the same boat as everyone here. Truck will run forever. But everything else falls apart. If fords weren’t so damn expensive to repair. I’d get a Ford.
Awesome video. But I’ve been watching a lot of these videos. But the one thing I’m seeing is…. A inline 6 ram. Vs a V8. If an inline 6 can do what a V8 can do. I’m stuck with the ram. That’s very impressive.
I am a retired Ryder systems mechanic and have worked on hundreds of the smaller two valve cummins but also the QSC engines. Being in Orlando, our only problem we had, was that ether one of the center two cylinders liners bottom o-rings deteriorated from heat causing coolant into the crankcase. The high pressure pumps went at times as well. But we are talking of a fleet of thousands of engines and they are very reliable in my opinion!
As an all around gear-head with a passion for everything from rotary Rx7s to high compression vtec motors to all American V8 muscle and of course diesel trucks ...I'm proud to see everyone enjoying combustion engines while we still have them !! LONG LIVE THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE !!!!
I have owned them all. But I been the happiest with my duramax. All are good in there own ways. Like you said it’s personal preference and mine is duramax.
I've had both. Actually prefer the cummins/asins. My duramax/allison lml ran way too hot towing heavy. GM under-cooled both the engine and the trans(over heated both). The cummins/asins runs significantly cooler. It's not even close. I'll take the cummins/asins any day.
@Curtis Fleabag Bruh Japan made shit is top quality! Why do you think Honda, Toyota and Nissian exist? Cause they didnt like the American imported cars they were driving. Japan does make a better quality vehicle
I got the cummins because my last GM vehicle fell apart around me before even hitting 20k miles, and I love the L6 smoothness as the motion is a smooth wave form. Also L6's have like 40% less parts and are dead simple compared to 8's. That is why Semis use L6's almost exclusivly (there are exceptions).
@ hard choice ….. Cummins for me is easier to work on but comfort wise my high country 3500 was better for long drives , enjoyed the seats more but that Cummins does sound good going down the road !
The only complaint I've had with my Dodges (4 of them) is the transmission. I've never made it past 200K miles without an over haul. An Allison 1000 would be nicer as far as gears go, but I don't know if they would be any better on life expectancy. I worked around people that had power stokes and duramaxes. Every one of the said they wish they'd bought a Cummins. Some did replace theirs with Cummins.
This is my first diesel truck Ram 3500 M.C Dually Laramie. which fell in to my lap by chance.I have owned Ford, Chevy and Dodge trucks. maintenance is the most important thing. For anything you own.
@@eddiewillers1 The Detroit diesel engines we had in the Marine Corps were just as reliable as the Cummins in line 6 cylinder engines in the 5 ton trucks.
6.5 are crap I'm working on one on a school bus. In its 18 year life span its gotten 4 injection pumps I'm doing the 4 one right now and that thing leaks and burns oil like crazy. and that's the bus driven 15k miles a year
I have a duramax dually with 400K. It's been a great truck that constantly pulls a 32ft gooseneck pulling heavy equipment. I've had to replace the injectors and now the head gaskets( both recently). It's been a great truck and I plan on keep it around till the wheels fall off. All manufacturers have their lemons but if you don't take care of them, they won't last very long. I know people with fords and dodge truck and they are great trucks and I know people that don't take care of their trucks and they are constantly breaking.
I bought a 94 Ram will I was a Ford mechanic, I put over 300,000 miles on it never do much to it but the thing I was doing it’s warm up the engine before I drive , someone tell me never use a cold diesel if you want to keep it for long time ! I forgot to mention a dream to work on it !
I have respect for the cummins motors, but I've always been loyal to GM. Love my LLY as my toy hauler. Loved my old 6.5 Detroit I had before it, but it was time to upgrade to something a touch newer and more comfortable for longer trips towing. Just did a 1900 mile round trip this fall towing my 8000# toy box down to the Smokey Mountains and with just a Fass165, SB MP, and a 4" straight exhaust, the LLY did it with no sweat. Ive bought several more upgrades over black Friday to make it even better, but cannot complain how it does currently.
Detroit was tasked with trying to unfuck the Oldsmobile diesel abortion. I don't know if gm ended up adopting *any* of the changes DD suggested. By the time of the junk 6.5, DD was sold to Penske and were building John Deere designed 4 cycle engines, 0 to do with Generic Motors.
@@rock-uu7qr funny, all gm's press releases at the time said it was a "collaboration" between GM and DD. Check your block ID #, been a long time since I saw one, but almost positive they were assembled on gm's lines, *not* gm DD. Like a 700r4 was a gm transmission, not a hydramatic like a th400, even though "th" 700r4 nomenclature. DD was on the rocks at the time. They didn't even have $$$ to engineer their bread and butter, that's why they bought Deere's design for the 60 series.
It really doesn’t matter if u get Cummins Duramax or power stroke they all have enough power and they are all about the same price,depending on the trim leval they will all do u great
One practical plus to the Cummins is parts availability separate from the Dodge/Ram dealership. For a 5.9, I couldn't find exhaust manifold gaskets at any dealership newarby, but were immediately available from a commercial diesel truck repair shop. Since Duramax aren't also "big rig" engines, if a part isn't available at a GM parts counter that could be a problem.
Personal truck is a modded LLY. She only sees about 3-4K miles a year. Had an 02 Cummins (Miss that girl every day). Work truck is a Ford 6.7. I swear you can beat that fords ass every day and it wants more. All great trucks in my opinion depending on what you bought it for. Great break down review homie, pretty accurate and honest. Love your passion for the diesel industry. Keep up the great vids bud.
Very interesting. I have friends that have owned the three major truck brands and all seem to stay loyal to one brand. I agree with the often seen comment that the best “civilian” towing platform would be a Cummins diesel bolted to an Allison transmission, dropped into a Ford body!
That statement has been made many times - Ford chassis, Cummins motor, Allison transmission. And it does sound good. The only change I would make is just go ahead with the Ford transmission now. So basically just a Cummins swapped Ford. I've had 2 Allisons and they've showed me nothing vs a Ford HD transmission. I've now driven multiple Ford HD's from pickups to F-650, gas and diesel, and the Ford transmissions have all performed beautifully.
This is your best and most informative video to date. I have been watching from the beginning. 04 LB7. 278K miles. Stock with Fass lift pump. New free injectors at 117k miles.
Are you driving 2x4 or 4x4? I grew up in Chevys and love the cat eye and miss mine although I’ve always love the raw power and easy to work on rams also I think a solid axle Ram rides better than an IFS GM that’s why I’m asking the 2x4 of both feel too squishy for my liking I still prefer ram though lol
I drive a 2020 duramax work truck 4x4 and it drives and handles great! I had a 2009 4x2 and it was not very good. My 2005 was better than the 2009. 2020 Durmax is very strong.
@@ChrisSmith-ig9jq I was about to say, “youre VERY wrong”. The Duramax was the first high pressure common rail, there was a mechanical common rail years prior. I believe it was on a big cam Cummins
Allison is ok. It was the gold standard 12-15 years ago but between the torqueshift, aisins and the allison. The allison is actually the weakest one. Reliable, but weaker of the 3.
In my LML the allison generally ran 190-210 degrees towing heavy going down the freeway. I have even overheated the trans as well with low speed super steep grades (off the beaten path roads in the mountains). I hit 245+ degrees! I have also over heated the duramax engine before as well (which is a known issue for the 11-15 duramaxs as the engines are undercooled). I am told the l5ps the allison still runs hot. My aisins and cummins runs significantly cooler. My aisins generally run 165-180 on the freeways and I have never seen above 190 degrees on those low speed steep grades. So as far as cooling and strength is concerned, the aisins walks all over the allison. The cummins does seems to be a bit more laggy I must admit, but it does make more noticeable torque below 2k. I also had a 13 p-stroke for a year as well. But that is another story ;)
When i stepped up to a diesel a cpl years ago to pull a heavy trailer . Id call a chevy dealership lookin for a duramax . They would say they had one . Buy the time i would get down there , cpl hours . They were gone ! Cummins n dodges were everywher . They kept tryin to shove the Dodge on me . Have your pic if want dodge . I finally pinned down a 05 siverado . 6.6 . 80,000 original miles . Air ride . Monster towing hitch . Just what i was lookin for . Bottom line fr me was the transmission . Got 2 weldin buddies with dodges . They both say the same thing every time we bounce out for a weldin gig . Outta state or western slope . All i would hear the day we would be leaving is : God i hope this transmission gets me back home ! I didnt want to be that guy ! Went with the Allison . Good video brother ! Thanx !
Great video. I have had both makes. I’m in an LLY Duramax today. I would say your video is bang on. The Cummins iss a better platform. That being said I still like my Silverado. But the two Cummins trucks I had before seemed to be better. But it’s close!
I love my 2006 LLY. I liked your thoughts on both Duramax and Cummins I learned a lot, thank you. I need a bigger turbo to take care of check engine light reset. LOL
I had 2 Powerstrokes that Ford bought back from me. Yes, they were both 6 Leakers and both spent more time with the cab off than on. I've had a 2015 and 2018 GMC Denali HD and loved both of them the 2015 due to the body and interior, the 2018 for the LML and look of the front end. I have also owned a 2007 RAM 2500 that was "okay" but cramped the crewcab was a "us too" as the second row was useless. I now have a 2016 RAM MegaCab and really like it. The room in the back is awesome, it rides like a dream and is will get up and go. Both RAMs ended up getting a new trans (the 2007 at 200k and the 2016 at 55k miles) cause the stock trans is crap. If i could put the 6.7 Cummins in the 2015 GMC Denali with a 10 speed Allison i would be in heaven!.
You mentioned the trans on the 16, and that's sort of why I think I will end up going 6.4 hemi instead of Cummins. You can't get that nice German 8 speed on the Cummins. It's a 6 speed that seems to have the old problem. I do know it's unfair to blame the tran really, as it's the torque converter that shits out and ruins it.
I’d like to address all these comments, duramax and an Allison transmission is the best you can get in my option but we can’t sit here and say a duramax will go farther then a 12v we all know that but if you want power and fun you get a duramax
The Duramax is an Isuzu engine design, even though GM likes to take credit and the 6.6L is basically 2 of their 4 cylinder engines put together. Isuzu started out as Tokyo Automobile Industries Co., Ltd. in 1937 and later they changed their name to Isuzu after a river in Japan in 1949, so while not quite as old as Cummins they are not a youngster either.
Unfortunately I had my CP4 blow about a year ago in my 2016 LML. Thankfully it was under warranty still and saved me a few extra dollars. I love the truck but it was disappointing to have the CP4 fail on me, great video by the way love the work!
My 2020 trailboss blew up at 8k miles. Not a diesel, but it was enough to make me sweat off GM forever. Traded it away as soon as it got out of the shop
Good video , I’ve always been a Cummins guy. I started wrenching as a heavy truck mechanic, so I cut my teeth on Cummins. Recently sold my 07, 5.9 and regretted it before he got out of the driveway. Keep up the videos, I always enjoy them
As a duramax guy who owns an lb7 I do have to check you on the LBZ being the greatest motor. I do think the 12v p pump Cummins is the end all greatest.
If our votes could be for any generation engine, than yeah, the 12V Cummins, hands down. And I've always been a GM guy. But there's never been a Dmax as good as the old original Cummins.
I love my 2015 RAM 2500 Cummins but in all honesty if GMC had a megacab option on their trucks, I would probably have bought a nice Denali 2500HD by now. Engine and transmission just work much better together and overall ride quality seems to be better on the GM. Plus their is a reason far more major performance shops specialize in the Duramax
Had an 04.5 LLY traded it for an 08 megacab. Definitely torn between the two. Overall interior comfort is gm hands down until they went away from the cateye. Interior room is megacab. Torque off the line towing is cummins, throttle response and acceleration dmax all day. My chevy also got better fuel mileage. Averaged 24 whereas my cummins is averaging 20. Also wasn't a fan on the smaller fuel tank on the short bed gm. I feel a Frankenstein of some sort would get you the perfect truck
As a diesel mechanic on bigger trucks Cummins owns the industry rn a lot of class b trucks are Cummins ISBs ISLs with Allison’s id say Cummins is the best and even the fire trucks i work on all have Cummins now and some Detroit’s but duramax just does not make anything bigger than 6.6l on top of that non of these engines out match the semi diesels.
Great video! I’ve personally owned a 2006 duramax and 2011 lml and i loved them (except when the cp4 failed on me). but on the other hand, I bought a 2012 cummins and i can easily say i will always buy a cummins from now on.
I have a 2003 Dodge RAM 2500 Diesel truck purchased new. Still rolling strong after 17 years. I am looking at new GMC Sierra Diesel-powered trucks right now. Chevrolet is okay too, but I like the Suburban better than the Silverado. Great video you put out.
For me it’s a early 98 Dodge with a 12 Valve 5.9L Cummins and a manual transmission. Currently it’s a NV4500 but eventually I want to swap it for a G56 and change the gear ratio from 3.55 to 3.73 which is a better match for the Cummins. If you take care of the KDP the 5.9 Cummins is by far the most reliable diesel engine ever put in a pickup truck.
I'm loving my 1997 with the nv5600 6 speed that I swapped in. I've ran clean used motor oil, atf or hydraulic oil as fuel for years. It's Creeping up on 400,000 miles and instantly fires up every morning. I Put 75 bucks in mods for more fuel and man it pulls like crazy.
recently just had the CP4 bomb go off in my 2014 LML at 118k. Nothing like shelling out $6k for parts after GM failed to address the issue as a factory born problem. I love my Duramax but it is just really disappointing that GM takes ZERO responsibility for this after they flat out said the pump was not tested for American diesel standards.
@@jimh2061 Ram switched back to the CP3 after using the CP4 for 2020 and 2021 , Ford is currently using the CP4.2 and are still seeing the same issues.
Good video. Never really knew much about Duramax. I'm an OTR truck driver and as those trucks are I6 was partial to Cummins.. I had a 2001 5.9.. Had power upgrades and hybrid turbo... Annnd had the 53 block.. Tried drill stitching, didn't work, replaced shortblock swap.. Had problems with the vp44.. Traded that for my current 2009 3500 6.7.. Stock all around.. 85k miles, tow 36' 5th, only had to change turbo actuator recently.. Best truck I've had so far... Miss my old lousd no emissions Diesel though.
I think it's objective. Depends what you are looking for at the end of the day. As the generations change, they take turns ahead of each other. Both are great for the most part.
I wanna bring up a common issue with the ol 12 valve that litteraly no one talks about but it's not only happened to both mine but 3 of my colleagues have had it too. The head gasket fails right next to the thermostat housing and pisses fuel out the side of the block and head. Just in case anyone find a leak under your thermostat housing just know your in for a head gasket project. But not like it's hard or anything. Easy job. Make upgrades along the way
From what I've seen, it doesn't matter what you buy , if you take care of it 9 times out of 10 it'll take care of you.
Haaaa. Sure
Spot on
@@alana2562 huh?
@@alana2562 every single auto manufacturer puts faulty cars on the road knowingly. Lol. My word dude
Except a 6.0 those will leave you stranded
I bought a 2007 Silverado 2500 HD Classic Crew Cab with the LBZ engine. I bought the truck new. It now has 340,000 miles and still runs like new. I'm very happy with it.
WELL SAID RANDY
I have one too. Amazing trucks. Have no desire to buy another truck anytime soon.
I bought my 06 LBZ in 2007 with 25,000 miles. It’s a 4wd CCLB dually LTZ. I was 20yo
when I got it and I’m now 37 and she’s got around 190k miles on her. I’ve also got a 21 4wd CCLB LTZ dually. It’s as comfortable as a Cadillac, and drives like one too, but the 06 is still my favorite to drive. When I was young and single I was able to modify it quite a bit. I still love her sound and power! My wife told me once I should think about selling it. I’d rather have a divorce 😂! Too many good memories in that truck, which is one reason she says I should sell it(jokingly). She said “yeah memories of all the different girls you’ve had in the back seat.” I just looked at her and said, “well….you remember where I first bagged you at don’t ya?😉”
Yea, I own a 2007 Duramax with the LBZ engine as well...I pais cash when I bought it brand new and it will be my last truck as well...112000 miles
I’m a Cummins guy but Duramax is a very close second.
Both are great power plants. But I prefer the simplicity of the inline 6.
Exactly inline 6 is so much easier to get around the engine bay
I have an 07lbz, and my brother has a 06 5.9 cummins. Love the acceleration, turbo whistle, and steering of the lbz. I must say though that I was amazed by the extra room and simplicity of the 5.9 + the torque it has, downshifts less than my lbz.
My son is a diesel mechanic, he said the Cummins is the easiest to work on, the GM is the most comfortable to drive, but the Ford supports him with repairs and paid for his daughter’s nursing school education. Lol
There is way to many variables to choose which is best. Every variation has there issues. Maintenance is everything for long-term use.
With my experience in shops the best mechanics for a certain brand always hate that brand the bmw mechanic drove an audi and the audi mechanic drove a beamer. Its all just about what you see come in yo your bay
850,000km on my 2001 duramax. 691,000 on my 2012 duramax. Very very reliable with very little problems. Both Pulled strong up to 35,000lbs. So they were not babied
I have a 2000 5.9 Cummins with 200 miles of wonderful service. It never let me down towing a 37 ft. fifth wheel camper, all over the U SA, and Canada and Alaska. We lived in the camper for ten years, and never worried. I first bought a new Chevrolet, which lasted just a bit over one year till it failed to the point it didn't have enough power to tow my trailor up a slight hill.
200 miles. That’s about right for a dodge.
@@johnnydough8841he meant 200k lol
I am a die hard cummins fan. But I will never unstand why gm got away from the Allison transmission to me thats what made the duramax
I agree
@@shemwhitehead9517 it’s no longer made by Allison. It’s an Allison design made by GM so they can put the nameplate on their trucks but the manufacture has gone in house.
Shem Whitehead plus the tuning in the Allison transmissions are done by GM. If you want true Allison tuning you have to get in the 4500 and up trucks.
@@FlatPlaneCranky that is true but don't forget allison and GM was making them together in house so it's up in the air if its any different in the GM ones in the 3500 with the Allison stamp on it i don't know but they did it like that in the 2020 trucks that's why im happy mines a 2019 3500 with the real allison in it lol
To me the best trans out there now is the Aisin!
My first diesel was an '04 Dodge/ Cummins 5.9L. 14 years later at 216K miles and no out of pocket money spent except a water pump I now have an '18 Ram 6.7L. I stay with my success.
How is the ‘18 ram holding up? I’m close into buying one
Update @@ivanmartinez3515
I’ve owned 6 Cummins trucks and have never had engine problems all of them over 400000 miles each . All of them hotshot trucks so they pulled always
What about the transmission though?
@@iitzDiRTY I'm driving my fourth Ram and fortunately I've never had any transmission problems. And to attest to what @Karl Kutzer said, here in the desert southwest there are many hotshot trucks. My best estimate would be 70% are Rams, followed by Ford and then GM.
@@miguelitomigra543 I’m glad the rams are holding up well for you guys & giving you zero issues. I personally will never touch Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep products but to each his own. I own a Peterbilt 579 so I don’t need to haul heavy with my pickup nor would I want to. I wouldn’t trust pulling heavy loads without the assistance of a jake brake especially not on steep downgrades. Trying to keep that trailer with a heavy load from pushing me down a grade with only hydraulic brakes to try & hold it gives me anxiety just thinking about it. I’m glad you guys are getting good use out of your trucks & they are working well for you, be safe out there fellas, cheers.
Question: why are you on your fourth RAM? What’s wrong with the other three? My 95 ford with a power stroke 7.3 that I bought used, is still in mint condition.
@@iitzDiRTY well there you have a point. That is the weak spot in the ram until 2015 I bought a 3500 4x4 crew cab long bed drw. With the aiasin 6 spd it’s the first automatic I’ve owned as of right now it has 332442 miles on it still running good
Before they were FIAT CHRYSLERS
I'll add this little fact. I managed a 110 vehicle fleet before I retired that was comprised of the "Big 3". Diesel engines aside, by far the brand we had the most problems with was GM. The most common problems? Engine wiring harnesses, exhausts breaking and falling off the 2500 HD 4x4's (literally) and breaking IFS components. And what's worse, we had a constant battle with GM trying to get them to warranty their products. Their ultimate fix for two dozen exhaust systems was to weld them back together and reinstall. Why did we have so many GM's? They were the low bidder. Nearly all the issues we had with Dodge Rams and vans were transmission related. I understand this video is about diesel engine comparisons, but you also have to consider the overall package that they are installed in. There is one component that is a total deal breaker for me when it comes to 3/4 ton pickups, and that's the independent front suspension and torsion bars on the GM's.
What was the weak places on the Fords?
So in the end your opinion was very much biased😂😂😂
Sounds like your gf left you for a gm duramax owner bro
Well said,
@@trailerwithyardwasteonit7188 How do you gather that from his experiences managing a fleet? Low wattage
As you mentioned the simplicity of the strait six is nice. Love my 05 Cummins. No emissions to worry about is awesome as well .
Where did you come up with an 05 without emissions?
My 03 was about the last ones I have seen.
Even my buddies 04 has an EGR system and a particulate filter.
@@jamesglenn520 I have an 04.5. 5.9's never had an EGR or Particulate filters. 04.5 to 07 had cats. So did the 03 to 04 SO engines that were California legal.
@@spooler7828 I'm in Idaho no Extra Crap added back then. Lol
2005 dodge truck lol massive pile of 💩💩
@BC bet you can't explain why tho 🤡🙈🙉
Ive owned both. I had a 2006 LBZ and loved it but i am a p-pump man at heart. Both great engines but i will always prefer my good old ppump 12 valve 5.9 Cummins
I like how open and unbiased the information. Being a mechanic myself, the INFO was spot on. Also, it was quite educational for me. Some of the INFO & knew, some I didn't which means the video was quite educational, especially on the older model engines...THANKS!!!
I'm a GM / Dodge guy myself. I prefer the older stuff. My current daily is a 94 GMC crew cab flat bed 4x4 with a gen 1 Cummins with 5 speed and a Watson box behind the trans, so it's currently setup as a 10 speed. 3 sticks on the floor. Dead simple reliable setup. Unique as hell...
That’s beautiful
How often do you use all ten gears ? , I'm a old truck driver and I love gears preferably a manual, I swear buy Cummins and have wondered if ram has stuck with the 6 speed simply because of the fat torque curve not needing so many gears, I've driven the 10 speed Ford's and it seems like they're always hunting for a gear
Pics?
I'm a heavy hauler so yes I stand by my 2015 6.7 cummins with a big smile on my face. NO problems after 200,000 miles and my buddy has gone through 3 duramax trucks and way to many problems.
I’m not trying to be a Stereotypical douche but please get your front drive shaft and transfercase inspected or replaced sometime soon. I’ve seen so many trucks get totaled out by insurance because the front driveline exploded and sent a driveshaft through the floor making them total it because they don’t want to spend the money or time getting it repaired.
Edit: I’m talking about your 4th gen 6.7
Agreed, can’t beat the Ram. Both are good trucks though but like the say, if you can’t Dodge it Ram it !!!
I think you’re full of B.S
Nice job.
I’ll keep my 98 Ram 3500.
When the shut off solenoid went out 7 years ago I was able to fix it and get home with a shoe string. Drove it that way for a few months before I decide to fix it right.
Do that with you common rail diesels.
Gliding in towards a million miles now. Still runs great.
Hoovie's RAM 2500 is approaching 1 million miles too (just 100 miles away)...
That was a great comparison and probably one of the most unbiased I've heard yet well done.
Thanks! It was definitely a tough one to make
Go with the Duramax Steve!
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@Dylan Vanderpool that wierd, I ran NUMEROUS duramax over the years, bush work and never ever has one left me stranded!
I've always said, the perfect truck is a Ford with a Cummins mated to an Allison.
F650 with a cummins and a 3000 allison
I’ve been saying this forever! Call it my dream truck... It’s a mut! Lol Only thing to add would be the Dodge entertainment system!
@@phillipherrington7191 big facts
I disagree on the Allison part. It's like a 48re. Only good if it's built. Stock trans will self destruct with minimal power added
@@otakufenris517 well if you were to put a mutt like this together, I'm pretty sure everything would be built. Why put forth the money and effort on all stock parts?
I’ve had an 04 Cummins, ran like a top, easy to work on or maintain. A 7.3 with a katrillion miles that was reliable but dog slow, a 6.0 that was deleted that was decent but both always needed work and just bought an L5P that I LOVE. Overall I like the GM better but both are good trucks.
100% agree on all points! I love my 2019 L5P. I installed a RDS 64mm unit as well and it does very well. I hot shot and my truck has 290,000 miles on it. Still runs like new!
Nice 👍
290k miles on a 2019? Woah.
How did you get into hotshot trucking? Looking to do the same….
Bro i have 49,000 miles on my 2022 Duramax already 😹😹😹
@@BlkGryTurboR 😂 I’m at 327,000. Still runs like a champ! The LML has its issues, but this L5P is a beast. No issues at all besides the turbo.
We have a diesel shop and it seems like we work on cummins way more than duramax! However, just for how easy they are to work I would own a cummins all day long. The duramax does not hardly brake but they sure suck to work on!
My very first deisel truck I bought is a 2008 dodge 3500 6.7 cummins. Shortly after I bought the truck I had to do a head gasket with a.r.p head studs and had tbe exhaust worked on and had to do fuel injectors. Other then all that the body and Chassis is in great shape and everything works well . So far I love the truck and I hope it goes a long while.
And think of how much easier it is to do a head gasket on that than a duramax!
180,000 miles on my 2017 Ram / Cummins and never a single issue. Just regular maintenance and she’s still pulling as strong as the day I bought her brand new.
The amount of times I’ve read a comment just like this is astounding it’s a $60,000 dollar truck it better be running good with only 180,000 miles my vw has 212,000 miles and I’m not over here bragging, for your sake I hope it keeps going strong.
@@Gg-gt1hj by the way, it wasn’t 60,000 dollars either.
@@Gg-gt1hj these trucks get worked cars just cruise
Im driving a 93 toyota 22re with 370000 miles. Not much good at towing or hauling, but great on gas and not burning oil yet!!! My other truck has a cummins 6.7.
I have a 2017 ram 2500 and I can say the engine holds way better than anything else on the truck.
The Cummins does not make up for the rest of the truck
I have a 2017 as well. I could not agree more. If only that motor was in a ford or chevy.
@@mikebwaymb I have a 16 ram 2500, and I probably wont buy another ram, looking at fords now
I’m in the same boat as everyone here. Truck will run forever. But everything else falls apart. If fords weren’t so damn expensive to repair. I’d get a Ford.
Damned chrysler electronics....
Awesome video. But I’ve been watching a lot of these videos. But the one thing I’m seeing is…. A inline 6 ram. Vs a V8. If an inline 6 can do what a V8 can do. I’m stuck with the ram. That’s very impressive.
Great video! I drive the 2006 Ram 2500 with the 5.9 Cummins and it’s been wonderful so far :)
Thanks
They build a shop behind every dealership for one reason,
THEY ALL BREAK.
well you cant upsell oil changes and maintenance without a shop either its just another money maker
Who needs a shop when you have youtube
All machines break at some point. Depends on many variables.
@@riverrat2350 Nailed it!
Facts
I’m sticking with my 95’ 12 valve Cummins all day. I’ve been looking for a nice one for around 15-20k with low miles.
I’ve got a 1995 dodge 2500 Cummins I’m looking to sell. 115k miles. Replaced transmission 10k miles ago.
I am a retired Ryder systems mechanic and have worked on hundreds of the smaller two valve cummins but also the QSC engines. Being in Orlando, our only problem we had, was that ether one of the center two cylinders liners bottom o-rings deteriorated from heat causing coolant into the crankcase. The high pressure pumps went at times as well. But we are talking of a fleet of thousands of engines and they are very reliable in my opinion!
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As an all around gear-head with a passion for everything from rotary Rx7s to high compression vtec motors to all American V8 muscle and of course diesel trucks ...I'm proud to see everyone enjoying combustion engines while we still have them !! LONG LIVE THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE !!!!
Cummins master of diesel pushing most of those 18 wheelers up and down the big road
Are you sure? the Cat 3408 is the famous big rig engine
Great comparison..but I'm a Cummins Guy all the way this is my daily driver: 18 RAM 2500 Laramie CrewCab (Sport Group) 4X4 SRW, AMP Powerstep, EFI live Tuning, 5" FloPro, w/FTE Resonator, Banks Intake, G&R Sump, FASS 165gph, RevMax Signature 850, 4:10 gears, BD Exhaust Brake, ARP .625's, CP3 10.6mm, Injectors 80%, Stainless 2G Swap S472/87/1.00, Dyno tuned Fire Punk 820hp/1325tq
Nice 👍
I have owned them all. But I been the happiest with my duramax. All are good in there own ways. Like you said it’s personal preference and mine is duramax.
Definitely 👍
@Curtis Fleabag enjoy your fiat cummins
I've had both. Actually prefer the cummins/asins. My duramax/allison lml ran way too hot towing heavy. GM under-cooled both the engine and the trans(over heated both). The cummins/asins runs significantly cooler. It's not even close. I'll take the cummins/asins any day.
@Curtis Fleabag
Enjoy your Diamler renault puegot fiat ram. Pitiful when no company wants to keep the supposed "best truck ever".
@Curtis Fleabag Bruh Japan made shit is top quality! Why do you think Honda, Toyota and Nissian exist? Cause they didnt like the American imported cars they were driving. Japan does make a better quality vehicle
Enjoying my 2020 Ram 2500 with the Cummins. So far.
The honey moon is always sweet. 😄
As soon as your warranty runs out, put a CP3 in to replace that CP4.2. Trust me
BUY A DURAMAXXXXXX
It will break down trust me
#MeToo! Only had it it two weeks, and flew to Savannah from Long island to pick it up. The road trip to bring the new girlfriend home was a pleasure.
i love my 2001 cummins 5.9 24 valve, 364000 and still running strong.
I miss my 2001!! I currently have a 2006 with a Mega Cab...the Cab is what got me to trade. Loved both trucks.
I got the cummins because my last GM vehicle fell apart around me before even hitting 20k miles, and I love the L6 smoothness as the motion is a smooth wave form. Also L6's have like 40% less parts and are dead simple compared to 8's. That is why Semis use L6's almost exclusivly (there are exceptions).
There* not "their..."
Lol never had a problem with my Duramax
@@wolf9189 same 😂
There are exceptions ***** their is possessive. Their truck. Versus there are differences. Lol
@@haffdanthorfinnson2413 Corrected, Thanks for the English lesson. Seriously.
I had the 2018 l5p and now have 2018 6.7 cummins and absolutely loved them both !!!!!
Which one do you like better ? I've driven both ltz and laramie , both 22 models and I honestly like the cummins more which surprised me.
@ hard choice ….. Cummins for me is easier to work on but comfort wise my high country 3500 was better for long drives , enjoyed the seats more but that Cummins does sound good going down the road !
Great FAIR video..ill still keep my 6.7 cummins..Keep up the Great videos
The only complaint I've had with my Dodges (4 of them) is the transmission. I've never made it past 200K miles without an over haul. An Allison 1000 would be nicer as far as gears go, but I don't know if they would be any better on life expectancy. I worked around people that had power stokes and duramaxes. Every one of the said they wish they'd bought a Cummins. Some did replace theirs with Cummins.
This is my first diesel truck Ram 3500 M.C Dually Laramie. which fell in to my lap by chance.I have owned Ford, Chevy and Dodge trucks. maintenance is the most important thing. For anything you own.
We have a Duramax in my 2007 Silverado and it's still running great after 290k miles.
Yes, I have one myself with about 200k trouble free miles. The LBZ was the high water mark for reliability in pre DEF engines in my opinion.
yes they are!!!
Depends on the Duramax. L5P with a real Allison transmission. Yes please!
@Pat Larimer - incorrect. That started in 2019.
@@donaldbailey5576 so you can get a 6-speed “real Allison” with a 2017 L5P?
@@ArmyProperty - Google. But I believe so.
355,xxx on my old LLY. Still getting the job done and creating smiles per gallon. Love the cat eye look.
I’ve got a 2005 lly myself just about to roll 300,000, original trans and engine no complaints. I work out of it 5-6 days a week.
Great to hear a few LLYs are kicking after 300k, they truly are great trucks!
One thing you left out is the Detroit Diesel engines which are used in military vehicles. They were also used in Chevrolet/GMC trucks for years.
Yah - the old Detroit 6.2L V8 diesel had its issues but it was fully mechanically controlled, it kept on running.
@@eddiewillers1 The Detroit diesel engines we had in the Marine Corps were just as reliable as the Cummins in line 6 cylinder engines in the 5 ton trucks.
Detroit sucks
6.5 are crap I'm working on one on a school bus. In its 18 year life span its gotten 4 injection pumps I'm doing the 4 one right now and that thing leaks and burns oil like crazy. and that's the bus driven 15k miles a year
@@oscarblanco1267 Jesus they put a 6.5 in a bus???? Shit that engine cant pull for shit bro, i feel bad for you
I have a duramax dually with 400K. It's been a great truck that constantly pulls a 32ft gooseneck pulling heavy equipment. I've had to replace the injectors and now the head gaskets( both recently). It's been a great truck and I plan on keep it around till the wheels fall off. All manufacturers have their lemons but if you don't take care of them, they won't last very long. I know people with fords and dodge truck and they are great trucks and I know people that don't take care of their trucks and they are constantly breaking.
I'm in car hauling business and had all three and from my experience nothing beats cummins
I bought a 94 Ram will I was a Ford mechanic, I put over 300,000 miles on it never do much to it but the thing I was doing it’s warm up the engine before I drive , someone tell me never use a cold diesel if you want to keep it for long time !
I forgot to mention a dream to work on it !
I have a 2013 ram 3500 . I have 388,000 miles on it now and still running great.
How tf u drive tht many miles in 8 yrs🤣
Me and my buddy did that I’m two years lol. 384k team drivers ups
I have respect for the cummins motors, but I've always been loyal to GM. Love my LLY as my toy hauler. Loved my old 6.5 Detroit I had before it, but it was time to upgrade to something a touch newer and more comfortable for longer trips towing. Just did a 1900 mile round trip this fall towing my 8000# toy box down to the Smokey Mountains and with just a Fass165, SB MP, and a 4" straight exhaust, the LLY did it with no sweat. Ive bought several more upgrades over black Friday to make it even better, but cannot complain how it does currently.
Detroit was tasked with trying to unfuck the Oldsmobile diesel abortion. I don't know if gm ended up adopting *any* of the changes DD suggested. By the time of the junk 6.5, DD was sold to Penske and were building John Deere designed 4 cycle engines, 0 to do with Generic Motors.
@@randymagnum143 nice so you just explained that you know nothing about that diesel. It has nothing to do with the Oldsmobile diesel
@@rock-uu7qr funny, all gm's press releases at the time said it was a "collaboration" between GM and DD. Check your block ID #, been a long time since I saw one, but almost positive they were assembled on gm's lines, *not* gm DD. Like a 700r4 was a gm transmission, not a hydramatic like a th400, even though "th" 700r4 nomenclature. DD was on the rocks at the time. They didn't even have $$$ to engineer their bread and butter, that's why they bought Deere's design for the 60 series.
It really doesn’t matter if u get Cummins Duramax or power stroke they all have enough power and they are all about the same price,depending on the trim leval they will all do u great
I would never change my 07 5.9 3500 6 speed mega cab, in my opinion the best year right before the emissions crap and no tranny problems either
One practical plus to the Cummins is parts availability separate from the Dodge/Ram dealership. For a 5.9, I couldn't find exhaust manifold gaskets at any dealership newarby, but were immediately available from a commercial diesel truck repair shop. Since Duramax aren't also "big rig" engines, if a part isn't available at a GM parts counter that could be a problem.
Personal truck is a modded LLY. She only sees about 3-4K miles a year. Had an 02 Cummins (Miss that girl every day). Work truck is a Ford 6.7. I swear you can beat that fords ass every day and it wants more. All great trucks in my opinion depending on what you bought it for. Great break down review homie, pretty accurate and honest. Love your passion for the diesel industry. Keep up the great vids bud.
Very interesting. I have friends that have owned the three major truck brands and all seem to stay loyal to one brand. I agree with the often seen comment that the best “civilian” towing platform would be a Cummins diesel bolted to an Allison transmission, dropped into a Ford body!
Amen!
That statement has been made many times - Ford chassis, Cummins motor, Allison transmission. And it does sound good. The only change I would make is just go ahead with the Ford transmission now. So basically just a Cummins swapped Ford. I've had 2 Allisons and they've showed me nothing vs a Ford HD transmission. I've now driven multiple Ford HD's from pickups to F-650, gas and diesel, and the Ford transmissions have all performed beautifully.
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.
@@tazmo2004 Could that be because they would rather drive the Ford themselves?
yes I agree Cummings engine Allison transmission Ford body perfect truck
I have a 01 f250 with a 5.9 12valve in it..with a cooler and few other things ..6speed stick works well with 3.73 diffs...love it
No shade thrown but the Cummins is great for people capable of working on their own vehicles
This is your best and most informative video to date. I have been watching from the beginning. 04 LB7. 278K miles. Stock with Fass lift pump. New free injectors at 117k miles.
Thanks Cliff
To me, easier to work on, less parts Cummins wins hands down, that being said I drive a DURAMAX because it drives better to me.
Are you driving 2x4 or 4x4? I grew up in Chevys and love the cat eye and miss mine although I’ve always love the raw power and easy to work on rams also I think a solid axle Ram rides better than an IFS GM that’s why I’m asking the 2x4 of both feel too squishy for my liking I still prefer ram though lol
I drive a 2020 duramax work truck 4x4 and it drives and handles great! I had a 2009 4x2 and it was not very good. My 2005 was better than the 2009. 2020 Durmax is very strong.
It defends how you take care of them, and they take care of you.
No, ram is better
I have a 2024 Dodge with Gale Banks modified Cummins. 330,000 miles and still going strong.
My error: 2014 Dodge.
I’ve had both in the 3500 SRW version. I traded the chevy in at 83k and went to ram. At 145000 on the ram I would not trade it. Love the ram
Love Cummins engine super solid as well as Allison transmission! If they combine to build truck it’ll be solid like for real
The Cummins was a massive achievement in pickups. It was the first turbocharged, and direct injection offered in a pickup
no it was not the first direct injection. Duramax was. Please correct me if im wrong
Edited: Sorry I was thinking of the common rail
@@ChrisSmith-ig9jq I was about to say, “youre VERY wrong”. The Duramax was the first high pressure common rail, there was a mechanical common rail years prior. I believe it was on a big cam Cummins
@@Cordell-the Duramax is the first one, SOOOOOOOO
@@traciweisenbachCITB do yourself a favor and look what year the Duramax was put in pickups, then do the same for Cummins and get back to me
Best Truck in the world it’s Cummins Engine Allison Transmission
This something I can agree on
Allison is ok. It was the gold standard 12-15 years ago but between the torqueshift, aisins and the allison. The allison is actually the weakest one. Reliable, but weaker of the 3.
Allison is most over rated transmission in the industry ....
@@robertwolgast3413 it is....its still a very good trans and shifts well (or atleast mine did), but it's certainly not perfect.
In my LML the allison generally ran 190-210 degrees towing heavy going down the freeway. I have even overheated the trans as well with low speed super steep grades (off the beaten path roads in the mountains). I hit 245+ degrees! I have also over heated the duramax engine before as well (which is a known issue for the 11-15 duramaxs as the engines are undercooled). I am told the l5ps the allison still runs hot. My aisins and cummins runs significantly cooler. My aisins generally run 165-180 on the freeways and I have never seen above 190 degrees on those low speed steep grades. So as far as cooling and strength is concerned, the aisins walks all over the allison. The cummins does seems to be a bit more laggy I must admit, but it does make more noticeable torque below 2k. I also had a 13 p-stroke for a year as well. But that is another story ;)
When i stepped up to a diesel a cpl years ago to pull a heavy trailer . Id call a chevy dealership lookin for a duramax . They would say they had one . Buy the time i would get down there , cpl hours . They were gone ! Cummins n dodges were everywher . They kept tryin to shove the Dodge on me . Have your pic if want dodge .
I finally pinned down a 05 siverado . 6.6 . 80,000 original miles . Air ride . Monster towing hitch . Just what i was lookin for .
Bottom line fr me was the transmission . Got 2 weldin buddies with dodges . They both say the same thing every time we bounce out for a weldin gig . Outta state or western slope . All i would hear the day we would be leaving is : God i hope this transmission gets me back home ! I didnt want to be that guy ! Went with the Allison .
Good video brother ! Thanx !
Just traded my 08 duramax in on a 17 Cummins... I'm pretty impressed I just love diesel trucks they are badass engines
Great video. I have had both makes. I’m in an LLY Duramax today. I would say your video is bang on. The Cummins iss a better platform. That being said I still like my Silverado. But the two Cummins trucks I had before seemed to be better. But it’s close!
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I love my 2006 LLY. I liked your thoughts on both Duramax and Cummins I learned a lot, thank you. I need a bigger turbo to take care of check engine light reset. LOL
CP4 bomb went off in my LML with only 52,000 miles! Not fun to deal with. Would do the CP3 conversion right away! Love the pickup besides that!
That goes for anyone that runs a CP4... Just save the money in the long run and swap to CP3
L5p duramax does not have botch fuel system components anymore
I had 2 Powerstrokes that Ford bought back from me. Yes, they were both 6 Leakers and both spent more time with the cab off than on. I've had a 2015 and 2018 GMC Denali HD and loved both of them the 2015 due to the body and interior, the 2018 for the LML and look of the front end. I have also owned a 2007 RAM 2500 that was "okay" but cramped the crewcab was a "us too" as the second row was useless. I now have a 2016 RAM MegaCab and really like it. The room in the back is awesome, it rides like a dream and is will get up and go. Both RAMs ended up getting a new trans (the 2007 at 200k and the 2016 at 55k miles) cause the stock trans is crap. If i could put the 6.7 Cummins in the 2015 GMC Denali with a 10 speed Allison i would be in heaven!.
You mentioned the trans on the 16, and that's sort of why I think I will end up going 6.4 hemi instead of Cummins. You can't get that nice German 8 speed on the Cummins. It's a 6 speed that seems to have the old problem. I do know it's unfair to blame the tran really, as it's the torque converter that shits out and ruins it.
2018 wasn't LML anymore man
I bought a new 06 LBZ and now have 310km in it, never touched a thing and still running strong. Best truck i ever owned
Do you drive like a girl. Lol.
@@firstamendmenttshirt4768 tbh i like to drive it on the governor most of the time!
Otherwise im towing 10k pounds
I’m a GM guy so duramax is where I sit, but I agree the Cummings are better in some areas. Love the video keep up the good work!
Can’t help but correct the spelling! Cummins! Not going’s!
I’d like to address all these comments, duramax and an Allison transmission is the best you can get in my option but we can’t sit here and say a duramax will go farther then a 12v we all know that but if you want power and fun you get a duramax
@@billb8862 also ive had 2 duramax’s and love them so I would not say I have a dodge Buddy
The Duramax is an Isuzu engine design, even though GM likes to take credit and the 6.6L is basically 2 of their 4 cylinder engines put together. Isuzu started out as Tokyo Automobile Industries Co., Ltd. in 1937 and later they changed their name to Isuzu after a river in Japan in 1949, so while not quite as old as Cummins they are not a youngster either.
Unfortunately I had my CP4 blow about a year ago in my 2016 LML. Thankfully it was under warranty still and saved me a few extra dollars. I love the truck but it was disappointing to have the CP4 fail on me, great video by the way love the work!
My 2020 trailboss blew up at 8k miles. Not a diesel, but it was enough to make me sweat off GM forever. Traded it away as soon as it got out of the shop
@@lesterparker1594 WTF are you doing here? Diesel is a completely different game.
@@thomasrudder9639 I make this comment on every truck video I watch so people know not to buy GM garbage. The entire company is a pile of ass
Probably THE BEST diesel video OF ALL TIME!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Thanks!
Isuzu stared in business in 1916, They have been in business over 100 years also.
The D-Max L5P was picked for build out by Gale Banks for the U.S. military JLTV. Humvee replacement. That should tell you all you need to know.
Tells you they were cheaper than everyone else.
Lmao with that bases argument the 6.5 Detroit is better than a 12v cummins🤣👌
Probably got a better deal, free or paid more as a sponsor deal. Gotta be careful about believing big influencer type deals
Good video , I’ve always been a Cummins guy. I started wrenching as a heavy truck mechanic, so I cut my teeth on Cummins. Recently sold my 07, 5.9 and regretted it before he got out of the driveway. Keep up the videos, I always enjoy them
As a duramax guy who owns an lb7 I do have to check you on the LBZ being the greatest motor. I do think the 12v p pump Cummins is the end all greatest.
All depends on what "best" means or what your priorities are
If our votes could be for any generation engine, than yeah, the 12V Cummins, hands down. And I've always been a GM guy. But there's never been a Dmax as good as the old original Cummins.
2003 GMC Duramax, 188K, original injectors and water pump. Still gets 19.5 MPG, Blackstone oil analysis shows everything in excellent condition.
The one you like best!! They are all good and all have problems.
I love my 2015 RAM 2500 Cummins but in all honesty if GMC had a megacab option on their trucks, I would probably have bought a nice Denali 2500HD by now. Engine and transmission just work much better together and overall ride quality seems to be better on the GM. Plus their is a reason far more major performance shops specialize in the Duramax
Cummins allday
Had an 04.5 LLY traded it for an 08 megacab. Definitely torn between the two. Overall interior comfort is gm hands down until they went away from the cateye. Interior room is megacab. Torque off the line towing is cummins, throttle response and acceleration dmax all day. My chevy also got better fuel mileage. Averaged 24 whereas my cummins is averaging 20. Also wasn't a fan on the smaller fuel tank on the short bed gm. I feel a Frankenstein of some sort would get you the perfect truck
Shoot I'm new to the diesel family just got my 07 lbz Duramax for Free with 231330 miles on it so I can't complain and yes it's all the way stock
@Curtis Fleabag 🤔
@Curtis Fleabag GM-Isuzu you mean.
As a diesel mechanic on bigger trucks Cummins owns the industry rn a lot of class b trucks are Cummins ISBs ISLs with Allison’s id say Cummins is the best and even the fire trucks i work on all have Cummins now and some Detroit’s but duramax just does not make anything bigger than 6.6l on top of that non of these engines out match the semi diesels.
Glad I found this. One of the most comprehensive comparisons out there. Good job 👍
Great video! I’ve personally owned a 2006 duramax and 2011 lml and i loved them (except when the cp4 failed on me). but on the other hand, I bought a 2012 cummins and i can easily say i will always buy a cummins from now on.
What did you like better about the cummins to swap?
The old LMM was a great engine. Mine has almost 300k on engine ad Allison 1000.. No issues ever and it works hard hauling cattle etc.
I did the cp3 conversion @ 200,000 (preventative). Got lucky to make it that far though. Love my lml duramax but it’s a Cummins for my next truck.
I have had both, they both are great. I have had a '17 Ford f 250 now for 5 years and it is a great truck too.
I have a 2003 Dodge RAM 2500 Diesel truck purchased new. Still rolling strong after 17 years. I am looking at new GMC Sierra Diesel-powered trucks right now. Chevrolet is okay too, but I like the Suburban better than the Silverado. Great video you put out.
Thanks
For me it’s a early 98 Dodge with a 12 Valve 5.9L Cummins and a manual transmission.
Currently it’s a NV4500 but eventually I want to swap it for a G56 and change the gear ratio from 3.55 to 3.73 which is a better match for the Cummins.
If you take care of the KDP the 5.9 Cummins is by far the most reliable diesel engine ever put in a pickup truck.
That’s awesome! Random but I have a NV4500 in my Chevy 2500 😂
I'm loving my 1997 with the nv5600 6 speed that I swapped in. I've ran clean used motor oil, atf or hydraulic oil as fuel for years. It's Creeping up on 400,000 miles and instantly fires up every morning. I Put 75 bucks in mods for more fuel and man it pulls like crazy.
12 valves are the best. But I've you, if we were talking 06 I'd rather have a durmax as I do love those trucks
recently just had the CP4 bomb go off in my 2014 LML at 118k. Nothing like shelling out $6k for parts after GM failed to address the issue as a factory born problem. I love my Duramax but it is just really disappointing that GM takes ZERO responsibility for this after they flat out said the pump was not tested for American diesel standards.
I heard ford and Ram are both using the cp4 pump. But Ram switched back after 2019 to the CP3.
@@jimh2061 Ram switched back to the CP3 after using the CP4 for 2020 and 2021
, Ford is currently using the CP4.2 and are still seeing the same issues.
Good video. Never really knew much about Duramax. I'm an OTR truck driver and as those trucks are I6 was partial to Cummins.. I had a 2001 5.9.. Had power upgrades and hybrid turbo... Annnd had the 53 block.. Tried drill stitching, didn't work, replaced shortblock swap.. Had problems with the vp44..
Traded that for my current 2009 3500 6.7.. Stock all around.. 85k miles, tow 36' 5th, only had to change turbo actuator recently.. Best truck I've had so far... Miss my old lousd no emissions Diesel though.
I think it's objective. Depends what you are looking for at the end of the day. As the generations change, they take turns ahead of each other. Both are great for the most part.
1075 torque for the Cummins currently
I love my 2013 Duramax, great info, and video Thanks!
Thanks!
@Curtis Fleabag Nothing wrong with that!
I have a 01 Cummins and it sounds amazing but I did just change the vp44 with a new lift pump and fuel pressure gauge👌
I had a Cummins. No complaints. But I love my Duramax. 2019 2500HD Denali. I've had plenty of offers to buy it but I won't give it up.
I wanna bring up a common issue with the ol 12 valve that litteraly no one talks about but it's not only happened to both mine but 3 of my colleagues have had it too. The head gasket fails right next to the thermostat housing and pisses fuel out the side of the block and head. Just in case anyone find a leak under your thermostat housing just know your in for a head gasket project. But not like it's hard or anything. Easy job. Make upgrades along the way