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What do you think is the most unreliable diesel? From this video I’m really thinking the 6.4L Powerstroke! Thoughts?
Definitely the 6.4
My boss had a realy nice lifted tuned/deleted 6.4 beautiful truck and an absolute beast so fast he sold it to a local kid who absolutely hammered in that truck for 2-3 years ripping all over in it till it just finally let go not sure exactly what happened but herd it wasn't nice
My mom's lbz has been a turd. Her lmm and lb7 have been amazing farm trucks. I have a 99 7.3 with 220k miles and its been a POS. I have an 09 6.4 with 310k and its been nothing but good to me. In the last 6 years the 6.4 has got 200k put on it and the 7.3 has got 20k miles in the last 6 years
@@snowmankace7769 great info
They can all deliver reliable performance if you pay attention to maintenance and don’t abuse them with aftermarket power adds that exceed critical component design limits.
I sure do love my 5.9 12 valve. It’s just so reliable and simple. A little loud but so is the damn wife.
Same here! I have a 12 valve in my Motorcoach and a 24 valve in my 2000 Ram which is about to hit 300K. Both still run like a top. I do my own maintenance and thinking of putting a 6 speed Allsion behind the 24 valve so I can hit 1 Milion miles on it. Best part is that 22 year old Dodge still looks like it did new. No need to upgrade here!
@@CurtisDrew1 Allison swap is ridiculously expensive. Just build a 48re. Personally I love my 68rfe. Alot of people hate on it. My 12’ has about 180k on it and it has been used to tow since day one. It runs at 140 degrees consistently. It all boils down to how you treat it. Even the beat transmissions will break if you drive like a tool. Either way, all Cummins are the great. Good luck with it
5.9 24valve owner here. I love the 12 valve. Although I must admit that my 24v has been good to me.
Stud the head bolts and fix the KDP. Bulletproof...
I love the old loud diesels
Still love my 1999 7.3 have ran it for days when the power is out with a inverter to get power to my house I believe the longest period was six days still a daily driver plenty of power.Close to 1,000,000 miles on this old work truck.
6 days. damn.
I've never owned a better truck than my 99 F350 dually 4x4 with the 7.3 and I've owned some of each. These things are amazing
I have an '02 7.3L. Other than the 4R100, no real problems. Crap transmission great engine...
Dam man that’s impressive, I boast about the reliability and fuel economy of my 99 7.3 with only 148k og miles on it. I have to sell it now as too many vehicles in the driveway and I’ll tell you what it’s a very tough rig to let go of… They will never make anything like it again…
@@FreakyT333 Exactly why I'll never sell mine. The days of bad ass diesels are over and they'll eventually fade out.
I was a BIG Cummins 6 speed guy. Had 3 of them over the course of my driving career. I now have an LML dmax ('15 Denali) for about 5 years and I will say that I am impressed with how it's treated me. I.. "took care" of the cat efficiency code that came up a few times in 2019 but since that "fix" she's been golden to me. Just hit 100k and so I changed every liquid in the truck, and still runs like it was still under warranty. Now that I said that I'll report back on Monday morning 😂
How’s it going?
@@brewyawn3394 finding wood to knock on, but great. I hate this shit on Chevy, but I think GMC trucks are built to a different standard. My brother has a Trail Boss, '21. Little electrical hiccups here n there. He enjoys it, but likes when I visit because mine "feels better"
I grew up on small block Chevrolets and diesel dodges. So i like the Cummins. But i guess really it boils down to preference, really.
Watch the head gasket on her, me and my father's '15 LML just blew the head gaskets with 200,000 KM on them. And the mechanics said its very common.
GMC focuses on SUVs and trucks, Chevy makes everything. What does that tell you.
We run into these same def issues in the trucking industry regardless of truck brand, the trick is to keep ur def tank full all the time cus if u let it get low the def that coats the inside of the tank dries and flakes off and then works its way into the filters and censors cuz once def dries it never goes back to wet so imagine the dried def flake you see at the pump thats spilled clogging up ur system so if you keep it full theres less def drying and flaking.
Very interesting
Thank you for that I never would have thought of that. Have to keep that tucked in my back pocket
Breaks my heart to hear a shop owner say "this is the way of the future" when I truly believe he knows that EGR's are murdering turbos. EPA shitstains traveling on private jets while us peasants are shelling out 4k to rebuild turbos every 150k miles.
It's time for We the people to redress our government! It's not simply our right it is our responsibility. Are we going to stay quiet stay shut up or you going to stand up and do something about it? If our votes don't count then we have to rely on the other options.
As long as people keep buying these outrageously expensive trucks the more of a peasant they’ll be. It’s absolutely ridiculous to buy a $90,000 pickup. You’re throwing money out the window. There’s no pickup worth spending that kind of money on.
This is why my LB7/ZF6 will be with me until I die
If you don't run a fleet you must delete.
Nothing like the good ole 12 valve Mechanical Cummins. I can repair that thing on the side of the road with a stick of gum!
I like how the main issue with the Cummins is the emissions stuff and they don't really see anything pre emissions from them
As an original owner of a 2002 LB7, I must say because I basically left it stock (Banks CAT back and a K&N cold air filter and an Air Dog left pump), engine itself is still the 300 HP stock engine, never ever has broken down, I did upgrade the injectors in 2012, also it's the very rare twin alternator option. Love my LB7!
I bought the same truck new in 2002. Still have it. It’s been very reliable.
How many miles?
I Inherited my grandpas ‘01 LB7 crew cab, such a nice truck. He only put 79k miles on it too it’s basically brand new.
In the same boat 256,000 miles and still running like brand new :)) though cosmetics definitely seen the miles.
LB7 easily the most underrated diesel ever
"deletes are a thing of the past" as I'm currently putting in my full exhaust and bench flashed ECM in my 2020 f350. 🤣👌🏼
Definitely not a thing of the past in Canada . We delete them before they roll off the lot !
@@user-eg8hb8xt3j where I sent my ECM for a bench flash.
Bragging on social media about doing illegal things is just not smart
@@lylehart3744 if you can find out who I am where I live and prosecute me in a state that doesn't do emissions testing on truck then be my guest. This was 2 years ago and this is my 3rd delete I've done on a truck I have never once even close to had an issue. If you go around rolling coal and doing stupid things sure but I delete for the gas mileage and towing performance. I haul horses, hay and agriculture supplies for a living. I can tell you one thing right now, you're driving down the interstate with an 8 horse slant gooseneck... Not a cop in the world wants to deal with the paperwork and headache of that. What if he had to impound my truck or arrest me? What would they do with all the horses? I promise I've been in the industry long enough and have enough family in local, state and federal law enforcement to know what to do and what not to do. Regardless I do agree with you overall, posting stuff on the Internet is usually a poor choice but in this case I took the risk and thankfully I'm not in jail or fined so I guess I made out ok.
@@Deltatwo3 all irrelevant points I don't disagree with deletes I'm just pointing out that you are a moron for bragging about doing something that is aggressively prosecuted in recent times and if you believe for half a second that an agency such as the EPA isn't capable of figuring out who and where you are then you haven't been paying attention. The EPA used to only pursue parts suppliers and shops but recently they've been aggressively pursuing owners of deleted trucks. There's been multiple cases of deleted truck owners paying large fines and even serving time in prison. These cases have made national news and yet idiots like you still brag about doing it. And as I said I'm not against doing it because emissions is a scam and it severely harms mileage and reliability but doing something illegal and bragging on social media even under a fake username is unbelievably stupid. If you are going to do anything that's against the law don't tell anyone about it especially on the Internet.
I've dealt with a lot of diesel trucks and I found when it comes to just the factory engine, not upgraded with any aftermarket parts, the 5.9 Cummins has been the one I found to have fewer issues than any of the others. But one of my favorite engines will always be the old 7.3 Powerstrokes.
The later models though , the earlier ones I dunno much about. I have a 2000 yr and that’s what I drive daily.
Why the 7.3?
@@00700556 I bought a few new F-350s in the late 1990s that all had the 7.3's in them and they were just great engines. When I sold the last truck it was pushing 500k miles and none of them ever had to have major engine work done.
love my early 99 7.3!
The two most reliable and longest lasting diesel engines of all time
Great video, it's nice to see folks get together and share their thoughts and be open minded. It's videos like this that really help the hobby grow. As far as diesels I love the 6.2 and 6.5, especially the non turbos, to me the just sound awesome. I love the old school non emissions diesels. It would be great to have an LLY but they are few and far between, the guys that have these are very smart and know what they have and will not give them up. Here in Pa LLY's go for pretty good money. My wife and I have a 2019 L5P and we love it. We plan on installing the Banks power pack on it soon. Thanks again for another great video!
I got an '84 M1008 CUCV out here in coastal California and its CARB smog exempt so anything goes underhood lol. Deleted cats stroker LS or Turbo GMP H1 6.5 is in my future all day. You are correct the 6.2/6.5 has the sound that makes anyone stare either in shock or awe it commands its presence and w 4:56 she aint the slowest🤣 from a dig
@@05EVORS that is awesome!
I member them old 6.2/6.5 pulled a lot of stock trailers back in the day. Wish I could go back and buy a Square Body GMC with a 6.2 and a stick behind it.
I'm loving my old '93 F250 7.3 Turbo/5 spd 4x4. Great MPG, but only so-so on power. It's slow going up hill, but at least it's slow going down hill! It will pull a lot, but it's no speed demon. Straight pipe exhaust makes it sound like a big Caterpillar dozer going along, which I love!
Of all the diesels I have owned I loved my pre emissions 5.9 common rail trucks. Had two 04.5. Not a lot goes wrong once the weak trans is addressed and they can make some monster power on stock rotating assembly.
Awesome video! Great questions and thank you Ryan for answering and all your collective knowledge.
6.4 powerstroke is the most unreliable by far. I am a ford guy but the 6.4 was for sure the worst overall
Even more so that the 6.0 from ford? I’ve heard horror stories from the 6.0 but have never owned one
@@King-tw1vi Bill Hewitt, the power stroke guru, refuses to work on 6.4 trucks and most of his business comes from 6.0 trucks
@@King-tw1vi
So my brother from another mother, his boss had 2005 or 2006 F250. His boss bought it brand damn new, never been abused. He had maintained. Used it for what it was built for. As far as i know still has it.
So another friend of mine was trying to pull more than he should with a F150, so he found a 2011 F250 6.4 6 sp man trans 4x4 crew cab. He got a good deal on it. If i remember it had two turbos (compound) which ford dealer had replaced. The only thing mechanical that he had to pay for was the clutch had to be replaced.. when he bought it the odemeter was either high 80 or low 90 thousand miles.
When he traded it in it was around 212000 on the odemeter. He only had a little over a year. We took it to Charlotte pulling his triple axel toy hauler. Trailer was like 14k or 16k i think. I drug it from central Fl , running 75mph all the way, it was like the trailer wasn't even there. Maybe it was a unicorn.
The early 6.0 03 04 had problems with Egr and headgaskets by o5 they had worked them out. To many kids and tuners is also an issue plus the 6.0 head bolts there is 10 i think ewww unlike the 7.3 with 18 a head. Also early 6.o had bad circulation with coolant. 6.4 runs a VGT turbo kinda like a pre spooler. Variable geometry turbo so more get up and go but yes 6.4 not good. The newer ones with all the filters and scrubbers is where the issues are chockimg any engine is not good period.
I still love my lly. Once I got the head issues sorted out and replaced the entire wiring harness it has been a great/ fun truck.
I will say since you mentioned it at one point we owned a 95 gmc g30 van with a non turbo 6.5 and it was at 450k the engine ran strong the van itself was falling apart but it ran strong
I'm not a mechanic, but after misplacing some parts on my 6.7 Cummins, and installing a new turbo, it's like driving an 8000 lb Corvette. And the mileage increase is significant.
"Sorry officer! The exhaust and emissions stuff just fell off!"
@@jamesg7389
I don't know what you're talking about.
My truck never runs at all after misplacing some parts. Lol
@@demetriuscooksey7147 exactly I was like wtf are you talking about “misplacing parts” ? Lol
@@demetriuscooksey7147 He's talking about the DPF, DEF system, and EGR, which he removed.
I love the 12v cummins my 96 has 484000 miles on it. It's never been apart have a set of compound turbos on it system will make 70 psi boost. It just keeps running
You need to replace your oil cooler suction tube they Crack and pull air and lose oil pressure and by by engine
I only ever owned a lml duramax, hasn’t had any main issues but a lot of dumb sensors and stuff go bad that still leaves me stranded from time to time. My dad only ever owned a 6.4 powerstroke and other than the annoying regens it actually hasn’t given him one problem, and this is someone who changes their fuel filter like every 3 years at best lol
06 , LBZ . 368k just had a head gasket issue . Rebuilt , original turbo , Allison still holding up . running strong definitely one of the better Duramax engines 👌🏼
I have a suburban with the 6.5 turbo and under 100k on it. I was going from NC to Florida pulling a 25 foot boat and lost the turbo with 400 miles to go or 400 miles home. I topped out at 55 on I95 the rest of the trip. I got 400k outta my LMM and sold it still running great and I have a LP5 now and have already been through 2 fuel injectors and pig tails on 2 and 4 before 135k.
I had a ‘98 3/4 ton Ram Cummins. They had bad Bosch injector pumps. Never had any other problems with the engine, but replaced the first pump at 60K miles and I forget the mileage on the 2nd one. Oh, it developed a bad ground on the throttle position sensor. The dealer couldn’t figure out what the problem was. I finally found the answer while reading the “Turbo Diesel Registry” the magazine devoted to the Ram Cummins trucks and had an independent shop fix it.
I own a 2002 F-250 7.3 Turbo Diesel. I bought it new Dec. 2001. It has 345,000 miles on it, runs like the day I bought it with very few problems to report. I'm 65 yrs old and trying to come up with a reason to replace it. Have been looking at the big 3 in 3/4 tons and its videos like this that tells me not to replace what isn't broken. Still enjoy the videos.
'96 Ford E350 Van w/ the 7.3 International PowerStroke. I add "Power Service" fuel additive every fill up, use Shell Rotella T6 Syn. oil, +305K & going strong. 19-21mpg.
On my third power stroke first was the 06 6.0 and I know I have heard it all before but I drove that truck 250k miles with only changing the injectors once and the high pressure oil pump was done under warranty.Had a 6.7 2013 traded it at 267k miles no problems with emissions or fuel only brakes. Currently drive a 2019 only 34k miles.
Nice video. Glad I have a 7.3. So I will never have a DEF emissions problems. If i could build one it would be a 99-03 SD body with 6speed and a 6.7 cummins or 6.7 PS. Hate how the emissions stuff kills the engines.
They’re easy to remove. My truck now identifies as a 1968 F100.
360,000 miles on my 03 5.9 and it is impressing me with how reliable this truck has been.
I came from a 6.0 Powerstroke to a 6.7 Cummins and I can say I am a Cummins guy going forward, I just like how they pull. The Cummins is easy to work on, reliable and the sound is just perfect. My brother in law runs 6.7 powerstroke pickup for his grading buisness and It has been dead reliable towing 19K pound equipment around, but his big Volvo dump truck is a 11L Cummins.
The best decision Ford made was to bring development in house, even if it required growing pains.
@@fordgtguy Not really, serpentine belts are still a nightmare with 9 pulleys and no room to work along with still having a two piece oil pan. The new Powerstrokes are just as stupid as the older ones.
Chrysler engineers are the worst form of people. The fuel filter setup on the trucks leaves A LOT to be desired. Only one transmission seems to hold up, while the other is junk.
@@Ratkill9000 The 6.7s have two filters, one cartridge under the hood and a canister filter on the frame. That problem has been solved. You’re about 15 years late on that one.
@@Ratkill9000 And even if the 5.9 had filter problems an $800 Fass pump and filter solved that, which honestly I’d bet a lot of injector issues that stemmed from poor filters in reality were caused by people not dumping the fuel from the filter housing before taking the filter out. Out of about 6 Cummins trucks I’ve put a combined miles on them of probably about 600,000. It’s not too hard for me to drive 100,000 miles in a year. Never had any filter or injector troubles. One 2nd gen, five 3rd gens, and a 4th gen.
Appreciate the honesty on the cp4 issues with the LMLs from Ryan... nothing gets inside your head more than reading on all the forums and FB groups about cp4, head gasket, and piston issues. If you treat it well and maintain it well, it'll treat you well.
I worked in a diesel shop during the late 90's and early 200's. It was a constant flow of 6.5's. The one mechanic there had a GMC full sized van with a 5.9 Cummins in it. During that time Id say the 6.5, 2000's the 6.0L and the 6.4. International really shit the bed with those two engines which was sad especially after the success of the 7.3 which I rarely saw along with the 5.9.
Id say right now you cant go wrong with either diesel engine choice. I think most of their problems are around the emission systems and not poor engine design or major flaws.
I do ride a 21 Powerstoke currently and I have zero complaints with 50,000 KM put on in a year with some very heavy towing. Its frigging cold here in winter, saw -55C twice this past winter and the truck fired tight up without being plugged in.
Those are my experiences but experiences may differ 😆
i loved my 5.9 12v. that thing was awesome. i then bought a 2007 5.9 24v and its been good, no issues with engine at all! ball joints and a tie rod thats it! mind you it's low millage still. 160,000 km
2020 Duramax here and I have 139K on mine. Obviously highway miles pulling a trailer 90 percent of the time. Keep it serviced and run good DEF. I have the work truck version without all the extra electronics. The coolest thing electrical is the remote tailgate release. I use it often and it's very helpful when backing up to loading spot. Overall it's a great truck with more than enough power.
i owned a 05 lly and a 15 lml both were deleted and the only issues I had were a injector connecter on the lly and a DEF tank heater on the lml before it was deleted. both good trucks
That's the only issue I had on my 04.5 lly. Best diesel in my opinion is the lly if you just leave it stock.
Well Ryan still has the most reliable hat ever I guess things been on its last leg for about 3 years now haha
Its a diesel ratatouille. Little mouse under there helping him out. 😂
I’ve had new and used in every truck, best I’ve ever had was my 08 gmc Duramax 3500hd 4x4 dual wheel. Only part I put on it was I joint, one caliper when rubber brake line failed and a water pump, those where all near 400k mark. I pull heavy equipment and other trucks frequently. Never failed. Worst ones I had including old 80s ford and gm diesels were my 08 f350 and my 06 dodge 3500 6sp, ford sold at 31k, the dodge after extensive repairs to every imaginable part at 138k
I just bought an 08 2500. Hope it lasts as well.
This is the best real life questions on finding out each engines good and bad. I do watch a lot of Gale Banks videos on him pushing diesel engines to the max. He does a lot with the duramax
A good friend of mine lost the cp4 in his old 2016 LML with Only 36,000 miles. I would never own one after that. Also, working on trucks for a living, I will not hop on the "emissions compliant" band wagon. The EGR is probably the worst thing for a diesel engine, not to mention the after treatment system issues. There's alot of people out there with their trucks sitting at the dealers for DEF tank/nox problems. My truck was one of them at one point. I'll be deleting my L5P once my warranty is up.
Big thing to keep in mind... USA diesel fuel is out of spec for those pumps... i bet if you ran additive... they would be fine.
Mine has 240000 deleted tuned built trans stock cp4 I beat in it to some who’s mine hasn’t gone out
There's a reason GM quit using the CP4's, they suck, and you can't change my mind.
Hear cp3 conversions on newer diesels is a must
Meanwhile my lml has 286k miles on the original cp4 LOL
05 Excursion with a 6.0 rolling up on 360,000 miles, original head gaskets, injector swap, water pump, and regular oil changes
05 Excursion here too. When did your water pump go, and did you upgrade it?
Love my 2008 duramax, only issue is every so often I have to prime the fuel filter as it loses pressure especially when parked on an incline
I've worked on a fleet of 2010 Navistar Maxxforce's since they were new. Until 2 weeks ago, the only problem I ever had was the EGR valve on multiple occasions getting stuck open.
After 12 years, the first ECM failed. Now, comparing that to a nearly 40 year old Toyota, or a mechanically driven injection system... I've concluded that all the new stuff is junk.
It's supposed to be.
The emissions kill all the brands engines. My buddy bought a brand new 2020 6.7 cummins and he drove it from the dealer to my shop and we lost some parts off it and it had 87 miles on it and the intake shelf was so filled with soot it was unreal.
My 6.7 cummins had 29k when it lost some parts and the intake shelf and grid heater looked like the bottom of a weber grill 😳 I about shit!
I just removed all that emissions crap immediately
@@jackschwartz1730 where’d you get parts???
You do know there is a way to cheat them digital speedometer so did it have 87 miles??? It should have not been sooted.....
I bought an LLY last year with 210,000 on it . A 1 owner with all the maintenance records and the build sheet. The guy replaced 1 injector at 187,000. He took excellent care of it, I am studding the heads, adding a Pusher Intake, with PPE manifolds, and a whole bunch of other stuff here shortly. Love the truck, and your channel.
I sure love my 1999 dodge 3500 5.9 24v no issues, replaced lift pump and vp pump and good fuel pressure and she runs good.
I’ve had a 1997 7.3L zf5, a 2001 7.3L zf6, a 1990 12v Cummins, and a 2001 LB7 Duramax. I’ve enjoyed them all. I think the most reliable and problem-free were the 97 Powerstroke and the 12v Cummins. The duramax is by far the fastest but it is tuned with a built trans, lift pump, etc.,
Anything can be fast with enough mods. My Lb7 was built trans fueling upgrades and was very reliable. More so then my last 04.5 cummins. But that truck had built motor, billet trans, 250% over sticks, dual cp3 and s369/s483 compounds lol. Still only ever hurt trans parts.
@@jedpratte I agree. Wow 250% overs lol here I was looking fwd to replacing my injectors with sac45s
@@TheSchyllerwade yea they aren’t a injector for a mild truck. Also where very hazy but anything 200%+ likes to haze.
Definitely keep us informed on the RDS upgrades to that L5P 👍
I will 👍
Makes me appreciate my Cummins 6BT that much more.
Thanks guys! They all have their pros and cons.
That was cool and super interesting. I love his attitude if "let's see how much punch we can get with all the crap on it". Right on!👍
Had a 6.2 and sold it with 475k on it and still ran. Had 6.5 that lost a piston at 365k. Have a 01lb7 that’s still on road and runs great with 465k. Also have a lbz that I absolutely love that I daily for work it’s at 231k. I believe it’s all how you use em. I’ve drove all of my trucks pretty hard and all for work and play. Maintain em and they’ll live a long time
I drive a 94 6.5 now.
She's a fuggin SLUG, but she's reliable.
When it does fail (its 30 years old so it's going to have a part or 2 fail) its WAAAAYYYY cheaper to fix.
I’ve got an LBZ with around 210,000. Only repairs are a belt tensioner and transmission lines and they were both a real “b****” to replace but love that truck.
Josh do a follow up when Ryan is done with the l5p would love to see what kind of power he get's with full emissions.
I definitely plan on it
I could listen to that guy for 2 hours. I’ve had lbz, lb7, L5p, loved the lbz.
I like my 82 chevy with the 6.2, even though its non turbo and 145 horsepower, it hasn't let me down yet and gets good fuel mileage
Personally run cummins, they're by far the easiest and simplest to maintenance and work on, powerhouses for torque when the HP is the same they always produce more torque then the other 2, inlines just out perform better in that way.
I skipped the automatic crap they're notorious for and run a 6 speed. Most are nv5600s and my 04.5 CR is Zf6 650 swapped.
Could also just have the Ram with an Aisin
Duuuude a ZF6 would be pretty sweet behind the 5.9! Congrats on that upgrade! I'm looking to swap an Eaton 6 speed out of a C7500 for the NV4500 I'm currently running... If I could find one that is lol
Agreed! I have 68RFE has been good for me. I wanted Aisin but got this thing cheap couldn’t pass up.
My old man had a 9th gen F250 with a 7.3, my first diesel was an 05 Silverado with an LLY, and my current truck is a 15 LML that the previous owner threw a bunch of aftermarket crap onto without bothering to do the job right. I've only needed to have the LLY towed once because the glow plug module was burnt out (which the dealer never mentioned), and the LML had an oversized oil filter pop the gasket and almost seized up in October, then the crankshaft broke on Christmas. At the same time, I got rid of the 05 because the head gaskets went out at 125k miles, and the crankshaft on the 15 snapped at 284k miles. 7.3 is still king in my eyes, but I'll have to call the LML a fair second.
Your ‘15 snapped a crankshaft at only 284K. That’s nowhere near a fair second nor is the 7.3 the top. 325 horse 5.9 from ‘05-‘07 Rams. The best balance between power and reliability. Reliable and durable, still simple to work on, pre emissions so no egr or dpf, and has the power to be comparable to all the newer diesels. Go own a Cummins for a year, I guarantee a 7.3 or Duramax won’t even be in your list as best.
@@GMbowtie350 I was listing them as personal preference, but since you mention them, I wouldn't touch anything made by Chrysler from 2000 to 2014 again, given the choice. My grandma owned a 2007 Dodge Grand Caravan for a time, and that thing was an abomination of design. Everything I learned about mechanic work came from fixing that fucking van. The only reason I kept it as long as I did was because no one was stupid enough to buy it. The interior used shoddy materials, the body suffered rust issues, and the engine was practically duct taped into place. I could chalk this up to a shady seller, if said seller was found on Craigslist, but no, it was an actual licensed Dodge dealer. The only saving grace for the Rams is that Chrysler had nothing to do with the Cummins engine they drop into it.
@@georges2842 To each his own, I hotshot all over the country and run 5 Dodges anywhere from an ‘02 2500 to an ‘18 5500 and you couldn’t pay me enough to drive a Chevy or Ford 3000 miles across the country. The Chryslers you’re talking about are cheap built anyway, Ford and Chevy minivans and economy sedans are no different. I’ve had minimal problems out of my Rams and if I have it’s something I could fix on the side of the road with hand tools. It’s not just that the motor is easy to work on, Dodge designed the truck where you could actually get to everything. You don’t have to pull the cab like a Powerstroke and a water pump isn’t a 9 hr job like a Duramax. I used to be a Dodge hater myself but then I gave them a fair try and never looked back. Cummins trucks have made me A LOT of money without having to break the bank to put back into them. There’s a reason they hold their value better than Powerstroke or Duramax trucks.
@@GMbowtie350 Buy a new dodge and you wouldn't think like that anymore.
These guys are top notch! My 2019 L5P loves that 64mm! I personally had a good conversation with Ryan when I picked up my turbo. I highly recommend these guys.
All 3 have way more torque than I would ever need. It would be a matter of which dash I would want to look at every day.
Pre-emissions diesel trucks are going up in value so much it makes sense to restore them. Uncle lives in Ohio rust belt country, has a 1999ish Dodge Ram, Cummins, 4wd, auto, dually, extra cab, but it was getting rusty after 20 years. Had a new bed, new doors, new front fenders put on it, frame and cab were solid but grinded down/repainted with an anti-corrosive style paint. Whole truck repainted to that factory silvery/grey. New shocks and springs all around, front end was completely rebuilt/refreshed, but drivetrain wise he never had an issue with that truck, it was 100% rock solid reliable in those first 20 years he owned it, had around 200k miles on it when it was "restored". Still pulling its weight on his "hobby" farm, gets lent out to his grand kids to pull crap, I'm betting 90% of those 200,000 miles it was pulling something heavy.
where im at we got 2 24 valve cummins 99 and 2000. Doing everything we can to keep those engines. They are beasts
I work for a portable restroom company in Colorado and we run a mix of one ton and medium duty trucks. While most of our one tons are Ford/Chevy gassers, we gave up on powerstroke (6.0) a long time ago. My first daily driver at company was a 04 F550 which barely made it past 150k miles. Only reason she hung on was because we had a wrecked F550 as a donor vehicle. Another powerchoke 6.0 F550 was so problematic that the supervisor joked how we would spend $100 daily to get her running. Duramax on the other hand is more likely to make the quarter million mile club at my company... 2007 GMC 5500 is pushing 280k miles!
22 6.7 powerstroke love it.
I love my Cummings.. I got this truck back in 05. It's an 01 dodge Laramie long bed two wheel drive.. 334,678 miles right now and it has been the best truck. It will pull anything has plenty of power gets great fuel mileage and it's all stock.. I've just taken care of it and she's never let me down.. so far.. lol
For those with Ram diesel, Delete the grid heater, The bolt falls off into the engine because it melts from the 500+ amps. I use 5w oil for the winter for easy start ups. I had only a hard start of -7. Never plugged it in.
I have a lbz with 306k and do all my our work thanks to this channel and all your videos. Had a water pump and pulleys go out. California compliant as well! Love it. But looking at a 2015 lml or a 18-19 l5p, but don't know what to do? Will still daily the lbz for work(construction), but want something nice without ripped seats. I did have a old ford 3/4 diesel van in high school. Great video!
Thanks James
Keep the LBZ, redo the seats, and forget about a newer truck
Love my LBZ but also love my 17 Powerstroke 6.7.
The LBZ is my weekend truck, the 6.7 is our family car! It’s a King ranch and is way more comfortable than the LBZ is. It is just a nice damn truck, both have been equally reliable for me. Can I nominate the Maxforce engine used by international as the worst Diesel engine ever?
Love my LBZ, too....it'll last longer than the rest of the body. LOL
03 LB7 (good injectors) has been running great but I do baby the crap out of it at only 190K miles on it. Not that I have experience with owning any other, but the 6.5 does seem to be the most talked about when this conversation comes up.
Diesel newbie here, although, I have always drooled over diesels while whipping my twin turbo inline 6. I think if many diesels weren't modified to hell, a good chunk of the ones with issues would have made it longer. I think once you start (poorly)modifying vehicles in Joe Blows back shed and start taking shortcuts, that's where you run into issues.
Awesome, glad to hear the failure’s on the cp4 was not as bad as what I was reading on other forms
It’s definitely good that Ryan talked about it more, it’s definitely a big concern with most people
It's a real concern but I think there's some fear mongering along with it to sell parts and labor. Head gaskets are more of concern imo
CP4 was the first costly repair I did on my 13 LML.$8k later,you won't hear me show them any mercy at all.The shop that did job put another newer gen CP4 in it,but I wish I'd had another shop do a CP3 swap and tune both,since the DPF went next.Say what you want about deleted trucks,if parts aren't there,they can't break and cost big bucks to fix.Engine bays are simpler, Finding potential leaks is easier.Repairs are quicker,etc.Shops today are doing what they must to stay in business,and I understand that.Deleted diesels will still be on the road,the owners just won't blabber about their trucks.I do think that internet posts with pictures/videos of obviously deleted trucks is on its way out the door though.
Just a few weeks ago I bought a 2005 GMC LLY 4x4 8” lift on 37’s with 219k miles that the previous owner already did head gaskets, head studs, PPEI 5 position tune, Air Dog lift pump, 42% over injection pump, fresh water pump and thermostats, and some other stuff….I am hoping that it is good to go and will be a good and reliable truck. About to take the family on a 4 hour trip down to Houston to TX2K in it. This is our first diesel and my wife loves driving it.
It should be good after all that
@@TruckMaster thanks for the input! I have been enjoying your videos and digging into the diesel world. I am a big LS engine guy. I grew up in St. Johns MI btw go Wolverines!
My F350 has an adjustable 8"-10" lift on 26x15.50x40s just make sure to keep an eye on all the suspension with that big of lift and tire. They look cool that big but tend to put a lot more wear and tear on components.
Make sure you put heavy duty tierod ends on it. That lift will trash the stock ones
This is why I’ll buy a 6.2 or 7.3 ford gasser when the time comes. We don’t tow on any high speed roads but we do roll through mountains on the daily. A diesel would be overkill for my line of work regardless but the long term reliability and maintenance costs will keep me running gas trucks
That Lincoln was freaking mint, custom work there. No tasteless mods and unnecessary filler
The Lincoln rocks... would be very cool if it was a Caddy. The side pipes rock. No dice on the mirror ? What's up with that ? Some camo duct tape will bring those seats back to new. I did spot the big green beast m1098 ? Military truck in the background... now that is a prime project vehicle. Truckmaster you really need to add that to your stable. Be nice to follow up with the progress on the new truck of Ryan's. Shows how successful the business is and his father's... very well deserved individual for sure. That whole crew there is nothing less than fantastic. Great group of people. Which shines well on you and yours. You are associated with good friends. Well as always looking forward to seeing what's next. 😎 👍
Thanks again Ron for the kind words and encouragement
I'd like to hear more along these lines on the 1/2 ton 3 liter diesels.
I think we can all agree that the big 3 have made damn fine diesel engines for quite a long time. Sure some batches of them have major problems but the majority of them don't. All comes down to which one you'd prefer to personally run and how you treat them
I have an '05 LLY crew 4x4. 300k miles on it. Exhaust, upgraded turbo, cold air, tuner. Haven't had any issues with it.
Haul rock in dump trailer and heavy loads regularly.
Still get 24 mpg, running empty on interstate... Though I don't hotrod it.
Nothing Beats my 1955 Murphy Diesel .. Double Overhead Cam 4 valve heads .. Injectors like a two stroke Detroit Diesel it has 30,000 hours on it and still running well .. 1,103 Cubic Inches Naturally aspirated 5,500# 110 HP at 1,200 RPM's
My uncle had 2 Northwest 25D's ... wore both out and parked them but the Murphy's were running fine when parked. As you well know they would turn low Rpm's (one reason they lasted so long) They were 4 cylinders
@@kwequip My Model 6 I think has an M-21 in it.. It's a 6 cylinder version of the engine in a Model 25 ..
@@mikeskidmore6754 A Murphy mechanic one time told me that you should take off the exhaust manifold every once in a while to clean out the soot build up because it turns so slow that it won't "blow it out".
My new then bone stock 2006 Ram Laramie 350 with the 5.9 Cummins, non dually, 4x4, 3.73 gears extended cab four door got 25-28 MPG unladen on the interstate at 74 miles an hour. All around average was 19 to 22 per gallon. Towing a 23 foot tandem axle Holiday Rambler travel trailer it got 14 to 17 MPG. They truly do not make them like they used too.
That's why my 05 3500 5.9 will be around after I'm long gone 200k miles currently.
This shop is literally a 2 minute drive from where I live. I thought that parking lot was familiar. Used to drive by that place a lot when I stored equipment nearby.
We had a Ford Fleet until we got burned by the 6.4L PowerSmoke, we now have one 6.4L Lawn Ornament and a Ram Cummins Fleet we are quite happy with...
The Cummins had a low bar to beat considering the 6.4L PowerSmokers started blowing up at 30K. When we had a just out of warranty 6.4L blow the entire fleet was traded in on Ram trucks as the warranties expired before we had another lawn ornament...
No problems with my LLY. 179K miles and running strong, thanks to the RDS 66mm turbo and other mods.
I had two llys never had any problems an they had close to 300k towing everyday.
Famous last words, said that at 179 and headgaskets went at 200k🤣
@@tannershellabarger4093 that preventive maintenance is already done. Good for many more miles.
500k already no serious problem
I agree with you on the 12 valve
All of my 2012+ diesel trucks have had emissions failures. The 2014 duramax had a 9k fuel system replacement after the pump went at 160k. My 2014 6.7 powerstroke fuel pump went at 90k miles $18k insurance paid half. My 2016 ram cummins has has been back to the dealer 6x for emissions related derate. But my 2001 7.3s are still running strong, finally had to replace 1 of the starters at 230k miles.
Both the 6.0 and 6.4 Power stroke are boat anchors!
Super interesting to hear him say he loves the LB7. I've been turning a corner on the LB7s because you see them for disgustingly cheap lately. I'm starting to think that getting a stock, dirt cheap one and just having the injectors and everything done could be worth it.
You can't go wrong with them, brother. The injectors really are the main thing that goes wrong with them but that's only around whey 100k miles or so.
350 Oldsmobile diesel
YES, also did Perkins not make a conversation Gas to Diesel Engine for the carriers. I remember my friend's brother who managed the fleet of those Conversations Diesel. They had a BIG problem. In the 80s we bought a Kabota Lawn riding mower. I wanted a Diesel engine to replace the GAS mower we had. A year after we got a mower. When talking to Kabota shop guys. They had a lot of people that wanted a GAS riding lawn mower from Kabota. So Kabota took a Diesel block and built a GAS engine. We had a new style Perkins in a chipper. I saw no issues with it.
Yep, I remember those days.
Aka boat anchor
It makes a great gas race engin.
That car was awesome
I still love my 07 LBZ crew cab dually. I've got 312,000 with the original injectors. 2 weeks ago I filled up in Jackson TN and didn't have to fill up again until I got to downtown Dallas and still had 70 miles to empty. So I'm partial to LBZ's.
I like the way he didn't rag on anyone of the three because they all have there issues
Most unreliable diesel…. The GM 350 diesel hands down… Was based on the 350 gas engines and they made very minimal modifications. It was so bad that it’s probably the gods honest reason why Diesel engines never became popular in the United States but went on to own a large portion of engines abroad.
As far as the most reliable? I think it’s a wash on reliability between old Cummins and old Mercedes stuff. I think old Detroits deserve an honorable mention there too… despite they leak oil horrendously.
6.0 ford deserves an honorable mention as well… simply because it’s so hated and trashed on but is a great all around engine once you fix the head gasket/oil cooler issues.
My grandfather in 1982 blew up 3 motor under factory warranty and was so gutless .
After a 6 month wait, my 2022 Duramax 3500 DRW is here! Love it…
What was the price on that bad boy? Lucky dog, they are sweet!
Nice 👍
@@shanek6582 It was just under 78 out the door including a solid extended warranty. It’s an LT with the all star package, leather and bucket seats and two alternators. We’re going to truck camper around North America
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My '15 Powerstroke loves to hear it. So far 222k with no major issues.
My '00 7.3 F250,dubbed "the million mile motor",built by International Harvester,now has 345k miles.Not fast,but runs like new.and never been towed.Been using dieselkleen for 15 years
They just had to do the ol' 6.5l like that ah 😂😅 I'd still choose the Detroit over literally any Ford, any day 😂
Agree 100 percent on that!
Its never good to see your truck in the first comment
@@KlashingKiller Technically I don't have a conventional 6.5l truck but rather chose to swap the platform into my '72 Chevy. I also have 2 LBZ Duramaxes and a 12V Cummins all going in different generations of Chevrolet trucks from my '78 Crew Cab Square Body to my '99 Crew Cab OBS and my '07 Crew Cab Cateye but I definitely get the most hate over choosing the 6.5l over a Cummins or Duramax for the '72.
LMAO! All the experts in the comments saying Ryan doesn't know what he is talking about when he says deletes are a thing of the past. He HAS to say that as the EPA trolls RUclips just looking for shop owners to fine hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing that sort of work to trucks. Individuals can do their own deletes, but the days of taking it in to have it deleted and tuned are gone as no legit/reputable shop will ever do that for you. It's also very difficult, if not impossible, to find someone to tune a deleted truck. I find it hilarious that these forum warriors think they know more about this stuff because of the few dozen posts they read than a guy that has worked on these trucks for as long as Ryan has. Talk about gettin' your "dumbass" on.
Absolutely right...it's not necessarily the EPA but the FBI is actually the ones nailing people after the shop is referred....it sucks and it's stupid as hell
well i don’t think he’s saying it to cover his ass, i think he genuinley means it.
Hopefully the SCOTUS ruling on the EPAs power will apply to truck industry
Internet mechanics can type all day but can’t fix anything without youtube
Jeff Scott you don't know what your talking about. There are a lot of places that will delete and tune diesel vehicles. You have to sign a paper that you are authorizing the vehicle to be deleted and upon the sell of that vehicle, you must notify the buyer of the deletion or put the DEF system back on the vehicle.
My '07 6.7 cummins with almost 400k miles full delete, is still running strong.
I've got a 96 GMC w/6.5 turbo
Truck has around 300 thousand mi
on it . It looks good . When it was new it was a construction company truck . When I got it I put about a
million into it ! I had to either rebuild
or replace everything but the motor !
Then the motor had a dead draw on the electric system that took every shade tree mechanic in My part of the country , and finally the GMC
Dealership to finally fix it !
I work in a mechanic shop that focuses primarily on diesel trucks and all I know is I work on 10 times more Ford power strokes than I do Cummins or Duramax but the 7.3l is a dam good runner ... Although Duramax are the hardest ones to work on even though they fail much less so keep that in mind and Cummins makes a good engine but dodge does not make a good truck usually it's other parts that break... as far as gas engines don't buy ram they break all the time and many Ford's 5.4s have problems but Ford and Chevy gas are pretty good but if your gonna buy a gas engines truck might as well just get a tundra it's better than anything from the big 3
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310k on my 6.4 powerstroke. Pulling a load of trusses right now 32k gvwr...best truck I've ever known and supposed to be the worst
My 6.4 don’t move unless under 26,000 30,000 on trailer behind it,,, motor acts as if that weight isn’t even back there…..
Glad to hear I have a lot into my 6.4 and only have 66 k ok it
I have a 2009 Ram 3500.. 85k on Cummins 6.7.. Had turbo replaced recently with reman and new actuator. Have always loved the Cummins. Had an old 2001 5.9 that towed real well... 6 in a row made to tow..like the semi trucks..for work, I drive a 2019 freightliner 15 litre detroit diesel..428k on it..in-line 6..
I'm a gm guy. But friend had a early nineties Ford with 7.3 without a turbo. Really!!! Reliable
I have an 08 completely stock 6.4 140000 miles so far so good lol knock on wood haha. But I do really take care of my 6.4 religiously change the oil and fuel filters and hotshot secrets in the fuel. But i honestly think It matters on how you take care of your vehicle. Love the content brother stay safe.😎👍
I currently also have a 08 6.4. 142k miles. Only had to replace the HPFP.
Wow.. not many with that low of mileage.. but if it were a 2007 6.0 it would be worth much more..
I REALLY RESPECT THE SHOP OWNER. He's got to be the fairest critiquing mechanic I have ever seen. Except for the 6-4 he doesn't throw anyone under the bus. And obviously the 64 deserves the reputation it created for itself. And he destroyed the RUclips account owner when he caught him off guard with the interviewers owen question LOL.
Extremely informative video. I'm new to the world or diesel engines as a truck owner. I have worked in an industry for the last 30 years that requires light duty construction equipment getting trailered down the road behind a 3/4 ton or even a 1-ton truck from the company fleet, Fords, Chevy, Ram. Though not as a full-time driver. I'm now investigating the possibility of purchasing a truck and hauling equipment professional over the road as a "Hot Shot". Maximum loads would be around 16k lbs. If so, I would need to be putting approximately 100k miles each year on the truck and would hope the truck would last 7 to 10 years. So yes...700,000 to one million miles. If properly maintained as per manufacture's specification can any of these trucks make it as a full-time tractor or were they all built to look cool and occasionally pull a camper to a KOA and back home again. What I've read in the discussion is that 200,00 miles is a lot.