Problem is that the manufacturers know they are garbage but the government mandates them, so they have no choice. Funny thing is that all the manufacturing, production, and subsequent waste caused by all the repairs is worse for the environment than pre-emissions. Classic case of the government mandating a solution that is worse than the problem.
That's the whole thing epa was pushing but auto manufactures now it's impossible to not go broke doing it so here all the people that bought the lie of emission controls and climate change blamed on a false agenda. It's all here and coming to the surface I plan to buy a older newer but nothing brand new no more than late 90s stay under those years.
Yo tengo un 2001 chevy duramax 6.6 ya esta algo viejo 287 mil millas no le siento problemas pero si esta malo el chasis ya requiere de pintura y reconstruirlo la fe mia es en repararlo y mantenerlo con migo asta que se termine el motor porque aquí en Nueva York la sal de la nieve los oxidan luego pero me gusta escuchar a los chicos sus istorias y sus comentarios así aprendemos micho de ellos de las abilidades de ellos los aprecio mucho desde long island medford NY
As a Chevy tech for years and working on many Durmax. If you leave them stock they run for ever. We deal with many fleet commercial trucks that idle for ever no dpf problem. Only time we see problem is people adding tunes. Over loading the dpf system. I think if you never added the tuner to your L5P and left it stock. You would of never had a problem. I feel like your miss leading people by saying new diesel truck are unreliable. Because you didn’t state how your were launching the truck on Max tune. Causing DPF to over work it self. In my opinion the L5P is the best durmax made. Hands down. 🤙🏾
This guy is always modifying his truck engines. Tuners, deletes, add this or that, then acts like the expert. How about those of us who leave them alone and just maintain them My 06 LBZ is stock, nearing 300K, never left me on the side of the road. Just ordered a 2023 2500 AT4 Duramax that I plan on leaving alone
I’ve got a 2018 Duramax that I bought new for towing a large travel trailer. Only issue I’ve had is the Trailer Brake system alarms. It doesn’t like the stock trailer wiring harness plug, I guess. No real issues until a couple of months ago still with only about 65k miles. Got a CEL with P20EE code. Dealer did a manual regen and it’s been fine since. I just recently started running Hot Shot’s Everyday Diesel Treatment. It’s my daily driver and my commute consists of 23 miles each way, with 13 miles of each way on the highway. Any recommendations on what else to do in order to keep it going without problems? It’s still all stock…just the way it was born.
@@gregmcauley2919 keep using the fuel additive. I have been reading this helps burn the fuel better and thus eliminating some of the soot. Also, limit your short drives (i.e. anything less than 15 minutes). Try not to just go 10 min down the road to the store, shut the truck off, then after done in the store turn it back on and drive only 10 min back home. Keep those to a minimum or never and i believe we will have no issues. I personally also during a re-gen am not afraid to do a pull or two from a stop at half to 3/4 throttle.... wake that motor up, clean the injectors out and help blow that soot out when that DPF is at its hottest. Just my $0.02. I am also just getting into starting to use liqui moly DPF cleaner. This stuff is supposed to help break soot up in the DPF and only needs to be ran every 1200 miles or so the bottle says. My intention is to just run a bottle thru around each oil change. FYI I have a 2024 3500 HD L5P currently sitting at 70K miles and my daily driver as well. I drive about 26 miles to work every day and about 20 of that is highway. I also do contract hauling and have a once a week 500 mile round trip that I make with it. this helps also. These new trucks like LONG drives.....
also drove to Skagway Alaska from kalamazoo Michigan back in August of this year. 6300 miles round trip pulling a 30 foot toy hauler (8500 pounds loaded down). Truck never skipped a single beat in the mountains, on the flats, anywhere. No problems towing up the steepest hills I have ever seen.
Going through the same right now! I have an LB7 with 424,000 miles. Considering upgrading, but I honestly can’t trust a newer truck like I do mine. Truck still runs great! It really sucks emissions has done this to diesels
I’m paying 7k to have my trans rebuilt on my lb7 and I’d gladly do that many more times before buying a newer truck. Mine runs better and is more fun than any new one I’ve been in. Also have had the occasional challenge and I’ve laid them all out lol
The government has regulated these trucks to much. They are totally choked down. I would definitely think twice before buying a new one or have really deep pockets.
I have and would definitely buy a new diesel. I purchased a 2020 GMC Sierra HD Duramax 10 speed Allison. Keeping it stock. It Works perfectly still. Love your channel, especially with family. Thank your for inviting us in to your journey.
I was thinking about replacing my old toilet, but decided otherwise when I learned it's a felony to disable, tamper with the flush duration, quantity of water used per flush, or float level on the new models. I also heard they are putting ECMs on the newer models as well. The computer monitors and limits the number of flushes. And yes, they are going after the toilet delete kit manufacturers and tuners now too. I think I'll just keep fixing my old toilet for as long as possible. Same with my older higher flow shower heads. And yes, the tags on my matresss are still attached. So I'm completely prepared for the EPA when they kick my door in with guns drawn for their random compliance inspections. My neighbor said they slapped their rubber stamped warrant directly into his raised trembling hands last week. May you live in Interesting times.
The way I look at it is if you want to keep it with all the emissions it’s fine BUT we shouldn’t have to be governed to make our vehicles require less maintenance and cost of running. But that’s just my opinion on the way the epa has kinda been overstepping these last few years!
@@dustinryan9671 I'm not saying you are wrong, but could you please cite exactly where you are getting this from? Specifically, what part of the Constitution would authorize the EPA, or what part of the constitution is it that makes the EPA "not authorized by the Constitution"? I personally believe that the EPA is exercising far too much power over industry, especially the automotive/truck industry, with regards to ever-tightening emissions regulations and standards. I mean, the EPA is the ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, so shouldn't they be looking at the negative effects on the environment caused by mining lithium and cobalt (for example) to produce electric vehicles?? Where are the studies on the effects of electric vehicle use, using the total environmental impact (and not just the "tailpipe" emissions) of the entire ecosystem required for electric vehicles to replace gas/diesel-powered vehicles?? Hmmmmm......I'll hazard a guess they don't exist. Any EPA employees want to chime in here?
@@mx3727 The Constitution provides two primary purposes. It sets forth the role of government and the limits of its operation. The five basic functions of the government is to coin money, regulate commerce (this did not mean they have freedom to regulate everything), declare war, establish a post office, protect the rights of Americans (not part of the five but given), and protect the borders from invasion (maintain armed forces). It’s often misunderstood as giving us rights which is not correct. God gives us our rights the government is charged with protecting them; the founders were particular about this. Jefferson was excessively driving this point home, and Madison obsessed even more on the subject. Most people do not read The Federalist Papers, but it is the guideline to the Constitution that really breaks this stuff down. If the Constitution does not provide a specific list of the role, then the Federal Government does not have it granted, it defaults to the states and the People. Also, you have to remember the EPA was founded in 1970; American businesses had already been improving emissions in manufacturing since the Industrial Revolution, and they did that on their own for the most part. It’s no secret that the EPA is in the hands of big business. If they were not, why did they not arrest Dow Chemical management all people involved in manufacturing Agent Orange, which has killed millions of service members, men, women, and children? They knew how poisonous it was before even using it (This is one example of many). The Constitution states explicitly Congress can not delegate its powers to anyone, which means federal agencies have no authority because it can’t be delegated, so Congress is supposed to create all laws, there is no such thing as Congress making regulations only. Just like City Ordnances is not law but now I am digressing. Focusing back to the Commerce Clause, the EPA was founded on this written section of the Constitution. The hard pill to swallow is this does not pertain to the private citizen. There were many restrictions to this on how the federal government could regulate commerce between states and the international community. Read some Jefferson or Madison writings on limited government; this will make more sense then. At the end of the day for us diesel-loving dudes, our little coal factories are not doing what the experts say it’s doing. Everything our trucks kick out is broken down in the environment and put back to use somewhere somehow, just like a water treatment facility. By the way, poisons billions of people by putting one of the most toxic chemicals known to man in the water supply…..Fluoride! But the experts say that is good for the teeth. If you read under Safety Data Sheet, you will see there is no reasonable amount to ingest as its extremely toxic
Unfortunately Capt. We don't manufacturer our trucks its done by a Private Company. Its up to us if we want to purchase them. That's Why and this is my opinion. You want a good Diesel. Before spending a Dick Fortune on a truck to change up. Find a 2000 Truck for a song and dance. Strip it down to nothing and rebuild it your way. I would make sure the smoke trail from the vertical pipes I would install could be seen as far as Wisconsin. But that's me.
Loving my 5.9 2007 Ram. I have one of the last 5.9's made. No emission choking equipment. Completely stock, just a good running strong engine. Yes, the new ones are nicer but I'm gonna stay with my reliable honey-baby.
Love the honesty. I've had lots of friends say they want a diesel truck. I usually tell them that if they don't need a diesel for pulling, they should stick with gas. Love my LBZ, but if I didn't pull a big trailer I would go back to gas. Way cheaper and like you said "turn the key and go".
Had my lbz at the carwash and the young guy asks if my truck is for sale. I asked, you got money to buy this truck? He said maybe, I said, "you better invest that then!"
I sold my lbz for a gas truck because I went from pulling constantly to seldom. I totally regret it. The terrible fuel economy of the gas truck makes up the price increase for diesel maintenance costs atleast. Not for major diesel repair of course but that's not something that necessarily very often
@@TruckMaster are you doing a giveaway? I think you have a scammer trying scam your followers. Posting a telegram link trying to get people's info. Or is that you??
I'm sorry but the difference in fuel economy, loaded and unloaded, makes up the difference in oil changes, filters, etc... Especially when diesel comes back down when a cognitively unimpaired President retakes office. Nearly 2x the torque, more HP's, and better gas mileage...no brainer for me. To each their own for their particular uses though. Here in Colorado, up and down all day, stickin with diesel. Looking for '17 18 19 L5P right now.
I got a 2015 Chevy Silverado 3500HD Dually with the Duramax Engine and Allison Transmission and it Has 508,000 Miles and still running strong!!!!! If you stay on top of your Maintenance These engines can last a long time
You are 100 percent correct. Newer diesel trucks because of the emissions are no longer reliable. Fact is the manufacturers are aware of this too. The emissions require more fuel and the economy of a diesel is no longer there. I do not see how burning more diesel and running it through the new emission systems is cutting back on pollutions.
Made great comments, I was close to pulling a trigger on a 6.7 powerstroke but decided to leave the money in the bank and get a 7.3. Ancient and underpowered but for what I need I think I should be fine. Great video
I had two duramax duallys and they drove and pulled like a dream. Both of them left me multiple times due to issues related to the emissions systems. I just got sick of dealing with and went back to gas. You are fortunate to be able to do your own work.
I have a 2012 Chevy duramax when I got the truck is had a check engine light but it was only the glow plugs. But I replaced all of them and did a full delete and it runs good
I've had several gasser trucks over the years that all did great, but once you tow with a Diesel on long trips, you'll never want to go back to gas. That being said, I will keep my LLY going for as long as I can vs. Buying an 11+
I agree, I never knew how much of a difference it was to pull with a diesel, I’ve always had gas trucks, i couldn’t believe how much better it was for me personally, I have an 04, and I’ll keep it till the wheels fall off.
2011 Super Duty 6.7Just now on my second go around with the death crap ( heater sender fu%*&( Truck has 84,000 on ithardly drive it I think that's part of my problemHow do I know how many grams of crap I have in there?
Great video Josh!! The GMC looks really nice, only thing that lets it down is the emissions crap, I plan to keep my LBZ 2500HD for as long as possible, I tow 16000lb and my truck performs very well and has been very reliable, the older engines seem to be easier to live with, and sound better too ..
I'm totally happy with my 01 2nd gen dodge 2500 federal emission quad short bed 4x4 truck. No Cats from the factory. 6 speed on the floor with 137,000 on the clock. Goodies under the hood with E.O. stickers. Keeper for life. Thanks for the vid.
I bought a 2018 GMC in April 2020, and sold it May 2022 with 32,000 miles on it for 9000 more than I paid for it after many problems with the dpf and egr system. I learned my lesson with the new junk, and went back to a 2002 Chevy with 200,000 miles on it. I now have a much older truck with Many more miles on it, and I no longer worry about the reliability
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I have an 07.5 Silverado 3/4 ton with the 6.0 gas and to be honest, I love it! I did have it regeared from 3.73 to 4.56 and it tows amazing even with 35's. I love diesels but the cost of operation and maintainence just isnt worth it for me. Love the channel!!! Keep up the awesome content!!
With the cost of new considered. Would you trade a 2016 5.3 125k miles for an 07 3500 LBZ with 225k tuned and deleted? We own two 5.3 1500 a 2016 and a 2020. I think itd be nice to have gas and diesel potential for farm work especially.
After watching everything that you went through, I would not ever buy a "newer style" truck. I have a friend who has a 2015 3500 and it has been in the shop for emissions system problems every other month. I will stick with the older trucks all day long! Love the channel! Keep doing what you do man!
My brother in law has a 2015 duramax with 45,000 miles. It is on its third cp4 pump and has had many other problems. The low miles is mostly due to all the down time in the shop. Ill stick with the older stuff.
My mom had the same truck same color but bigger wheels and was pulling the same issues she traded in and got half ton Silverado good to have both gas and diesel
I'm a firm believer in Hot Shots secret EDT fuel additive. It has increased the mileage between regens on my stock 2015 LML, as well as adding much needed lubricity to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel. I have the Edge CTS2 and watch soot grams closely. Also I'm able to have the Edge CTS2 perform a mobile manual regen if needed, vs a regen that is short cycled by stop and go driving. Just saying what works for me. Keep up the good work Josh!
@popybrown Thanks for responding. I'm looking at a 2015 with 160k miles. I'll definitely be using the Hot Shots secret EDT amd I'm thinking about adding a CP4 saver. Extended warranty will cover it does fail...
Thanks for the update Josh, I drive the identical truck and about to drive across country from SOFL to Central Oregon and have concerns about the tuning causing the same problem which the tech guy at Pulsar also told me it can block up the DPF filter or regen around 3-4 times more often. After seeing what you went through I've pulled my tuner and the truck actually runs better but sadly at the expense of MPG... I'm in two minds regarding the full delete. Keep up your honest reviews...
Stay away from a newer, lower mileage Duramax that was used as a grocery getter. All the stop and go, short trip drives can (will) ruin the DPF because driving short trips fails to finish the regen process properly and the next trip isn't long enough to complete the regen and the problem just gets worse and worse until you get stranded. Although I have had several expensive problems due to aging, I love my '06 LBZ but I now tow 5K more than it is designed for so I am forced to upgrade. Just ordered a `23 GMC and am not worried one bit about it. Besides that, the 5Y/100K warranty covers almost all the emissions items. I will use the truck for what it was intended for (towing) and leave the grocery getting to my gas car.
We bought s '19 Duramax new 11/18, kept it 15 months, and traded for a 2020 gmc 2500 gas truck. The particulate exhaust filter did me in also. I bought it to pull 8,000 lb travel trailer but had to use as daily driver. My little town has so many red lights it needed to Regen every 6 days or 80 miles, and it won't Regen in town. It needs 20 miles at over 30 mph with no stops, so had to drive to next town to Regen. In 15 months, ONE THIRD of the miles we're the special trips just to Regen. The new 6.7 gas engine pulls the trailer just fine and is s blast to drive.
The practical purchase is not a frigin new purchase at all, Vehicles have gone crazy with all the sensors and computer chips, plastic replacing iron parts, I'm glad to have invested in my GMC SIERRA SLE HD 2500 6.6 DURAMAX LMM! Have owned GMC SIERRA 5.7 V-8 gasoline truck and that was a good truck, it was a 1990 though! I put that truck threw hell and still got 300k plus out of er! Lmm in Colorado 🤠 5 happy Duramax years and running Awesome! Hell Yea! 🤘
I've always had good luck with Gale Banks products. My wife and I are going to upgrade our 2019 L5P dually with his products. We also run F-Bomb fuel additive to help with the fuel system. Great video, thanks for sharing brother.
Love your videos. Emissions compliant tuning will never be as good or "better" than a full delete/tune. These newer trucks are already less reliable with the emissions, let alone force feeding them with more power.
"Emission compliant tuning will never be as good or "better" than a full delete/tune." With regards to making ridiculous amounts of power, sure, assuming you are keeping the factory emissions system and not engineering a larger DOC/DPF/SCR system that will match the performance modifications done (which is the case in, well, 100% of all builds). But you will also never meet the emissions performance of the stock truck after you delete/tune it either, and if you disagree with me, then you don't understand how the emissions system works. If you simultaneously upgraded the emissions system (DOC/DPF/SCR, as well as the EGR cooler and valve) to handle the performance upgrades on the rest of the engine, then your comment would be inaccurate. Emissions-compliant tuning WOULD be as good (or better) than a full delete/tune on performance AND emissions. The problem: people are stuffing more fuel and air into the engine and expecting the STOCK emissions equipment to function AS DESIGNED. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that is completely and utterly unrealistic. But hey, it's the emissions equipment's fault, right? I'd hazard a guess that 99% of diesel truck owners chose to delete their truck rather than install a new DPF system (or an upgraded one, if it was available) simply because it's thousands of dollars CHEAPER (plus, all the "experts" are telling them that's what they should do). It's just crappy emissions equipment that will be nothing but trouble after all........
@@alaska-bornfloridaman How many miles on your truck? I have 115k on my 2017 Cummins and I also haven't had a single issue with the engine, transmission or aftertreatment system. Of course, my truck is stock save for a PPE trans pan, Banks rear diff cover and AFe front diff cover, so that's pretty much what I would expect. I also tow quite a bit with it, so it always does a passive regen on the DPF. You deleted it - just the DPF/SCR system, or EGR as well? What mods have you done, and what tuner? I mean, if you delete your truck then you of course won't have issues with the aftertreatment system. But, if your truck is not tuned properly and billows black smoke (I saw lots of trucks in FL on the road doing exactly that), then you are certainly not helping the environment either. I personally believe with proper modifications and tuning, you can have great performance and keep the aftertreatment system intact, and have great reliability.
@@mx3727 I personally deleted everything. EGR included. Anyone who's mechanically inclined can do it. I used the EFI live tune from a guy out of Canada. It has 5 settings. I put a heavy truck camper in and tow a trailer, and have never needed anything beyond the economy setting on the tuner. Not a whisp of smoke on that setting. I'm not trying to roll coal, just make my truck last and get better mileage. I get 23mpg on the highway. Much better than with the emissions crap. I deleted at about 100,000 miles. I'm not exaggerating when I say it drives like a Corvette now. The difference is insane. Also: I deleted it because the SCR was completely clogged with def, sensors were needing replaced, and the turbo was completed locked up. It was a mess.
I love the fact your brother flashed the park bench at you! Haha He’s got jokes! I bought a 33hp Kubota tractor in 2018 or 2019 and it would have to regen, which is ridiculous. I vowed then, I’d stay old school if I ever do get another diesel truck. If we all went horse and buggy, they’d restrict that too! Make us filter the exhaust! 🐎 💨
I noticed when i don’t use fuel additive my truck smokes a lot more, almost twice as much. So might be good to add to a emissions truck to reduce the soot output. I use the xdp diesel additive. It increases my mpg also by about .5. I think its a great additive for my duramax. Keep up the good work man!
I have a 2019 GMC 2500HD and had 2 issues and took care of all the issues just prior to the ruling. Glad I did and quite happy. Sticking with this for the long road. Keep it and best of luck with it.
I have a 2019 duramax. Completely stock and runs with no issues. Like you said all the brands have their issues and I agree you have to really take care of these trucks with the emissions on them. I love my truck and couldn’t be happier with it!
For some reason that particular body style 2015 to 2019 2500 Denali look so cool with the offset wheels and tires. Also the gauge cluster in my opinion are better looking than the newer Denali’s very nice trucks overall
i was mostly happy with a gasser with the exception of pulling a camping trailer up mountain passes here in the pacific northwest, switched to a duramax and it's easy towing now.
My wife and I purchased our first diesel truck. It was a brand new 2017 f350 6.7 powerstroke we took delivery back in late 2017. It is my daily driver and it pulls the rv trailer frequently as we live and travel full-time on the road since early 2018 and present. It is now at 113,000 miles. I did just basic maintenance myself on the road and all are intack and no mods done except for after market steering stabilizer. It might be our last diesel but who knows since I just turned 40 y.o. this year and we might buy our used and last diesel or used gas truck down the road until no longer able to drive and must hung the keys and just for looks only...lol.
You said it was tuned yeah? Who did the tuning? A poor tune, or a canned tune can cause problems. Additionally, how many miles on that thing? What are the engine hours looking like? What was the idle hours? Emissions systems are terrible when idling often, if that truck had a lot of idle time then that can be a major source of issues. I get that no one likes emissions equipment, and most of us would prefer to hear our trucks and have fun with them, but the day of deletes is waning fast. The better thing would be to focus on what can we do with these systems? What kind of power can we get out of them, how can we further their reliability and longevity. You said that the LBZ wouldn't have left you stranded, but in the beginning of the video you talked about all the issues you had with it. I think we have a tendency to look at things from the past and think "that was when they built stuff well", and outside of the dash on every second gen I may agree with you, but I think it's time for the next chapter. Keep the non emissions trucks, because they are awesome, but lets see what life looks like with this newer stuff. The same deal happened with gasser guys back in the day, and look at the performance gas side of things now.
Way to go, informed and thoughtful comment ! Thankfully someone who isn't living in the past, dreaming of a 1950's America. The problem is the manufacturers quality control, maybe if the gubbermint hadn't bailed out GM they would have been replaced by a company that builds vehicles with pride and gives a shit about the customer.
I work for a garbage company and we have tons of problems with the emissions . .that's why I own a 2006 dodge cummins diesel ⛽️. ....the only thing that I've done is put a 6 inches straight through exhaust and I've never had any problems
I've owned five new duramax trucks, all 3/4ton 4x4 from 2006, 2009, no DEF, 2012, 2015, and 2018, absolutely loved them, BUT the D.E.F fluid system was a hassle, great when its under warranty, but the inconvenience of when it happened was always when I was out of town, got tired of being in limp mode at 7km per hour! I left two of these at the dealership, one of which was the 2018. I now drive a 2200 5.3 elevation.....so far so good....
The Pulsar is your problem!! The L5P is extremely reliable but you should never tow with a tuner on the highest level on a emissions truck, produces way more soot than the truck can burn during regen and causing the DPF to run away with soot and puts you in limp mode. If you want more power then delete it, if not stick with an older truck.
Try keeping the RPM's higher when cruising level with your new truck; keeping the DPF at the temperature at which regen can occur automatically will keep the soot levels down. It's pretty funny that the EPA is mandating equipment that makes us drive more inefficiently at higher RPMs and burn more fuel for them to work but I've found that this helps.
I've been researching a ton in anticipation of buying a 2024 Silverado 2500 in terms of tunes and performance upgrades. A lot of what your channel provides has been awesome in terms of research. Unfortunately for me, I have emissions testing in my county so any tuning has to be emissions friendly. One thing that came to mind was the video Gail Banks came up with was the Pulsar (earlier model) vs the Derringer. In his tests he showed that the Pulsar was showing significant issues with regens and temps. I don't know what they improved on the V3 model, but seeing your issue/breakdown shows that they still haven't solved some of their issues. Granted the Derringer is hamstrung by default because Banks keeps things within the "guardrails". But for rather pedestrian drivers like me the Derringer might be my choice for "tunes" just so I can avoid issues with the newer trucks emission equipment.
The only way I’d buy a newer diesel truck is if it were deleted or I paid to get it deleted myself if money is no problem. I bought a 6.7 Megacab earlier this year that was deleted and the thing was a dream. Sadly I found that the cost of diesel made me realize I don’t “need” a diesel yet. Maybe another day..
I know a lot of people didn't like the rectangular wheel arches or the front headlights and grill of the 2014 GMC Trucks but man that shot at 3:01 looks awesome. Love that style!
I love your videos. You’re completely right, I know a handful of individuals who own trucking companies and they’re singing the same tune. Brutal unreliability, awful fuel economy. Just took my lml on a 1600km round trip and averaged 8L/100km (almost 30mpg), I hate to be that guy but It sure runs good with a little weight reduction lol. Totally understand where you’re coming from tho, I hope the L5p treats you good from here on out!
I just got my truck back from the dealer today as we wait for a new DPF filter. 2019 F250 with 22k miles towing an 8k trailer. Service guy said the DPFs are on backorder and can't give me an exact date... If it wasn't for the warranty she would be getting some weight loss. Truck has been perfect other than the darn p2002 code....
I recently bought a 2015 Denali. I'm very happy with everything about this truck except the emissions activity. I've considered trading for a gasser. However, I financed it so I'm probably stuck with it for a while. I think if you're not pulling loads heavier than a gasser can pull, it's probably not a good idea to go with a newer diesel.
You and me buddy- 2006 2500HD L18 8.1 Vortec SLT with 6speed Allison…..230k miles running strong. Just putting a Kodiak NP263XHD transfer case in Mark built….Engine running smooth as silk. 13.4MPG pulling air in the 6.5 bed behind the quad cab…..love every reliable mile!!!😆👍
After owning every brand of diesel I finally said to hell with it… I have my old ones but ordered a 22 gmc with the 6.6 gas. So far it has done everything I have needed to do… cows, hay, etc. it does not pull like a diesel but like you said… crank it up and go. Old diesels were a no brainer, not so much anymore.
I went 6.4 hemi megacab and it does pretty good towing and hauling..not like a diesel but hp and torque on modern gassers are great. I don't want the dpf or Def headache.
I bought my first and last diesel truck in early 2017. A new 2016 GMC Canyon crew cab 4x4 long bed. It has the Duramax 2.8 turbo diesel. The truck had been flawless and fit my needs perfectly. Really enjoyed it until this summer. At 90K miles it developed a leak in the head gasket, leaked out coolant and overheated without any warning. The dealership also determined the head gasket was warped. To replace both the head gasket and head I’m in just under 8K. To add insult to injury it was in the shop for 10 weeks due to GM parts back orders. This is both my last diesel and last GM vehicle.
First time Duramax owner (2016) coming from always having half ton 6.2l and 5.3l gassers. The Duramax is a much better vehicle in my opinion. It is effortless highway driving and obvious torque is great for towing. Even empty I’d rather drive the Duramax……I wish the 3.0L Duramax was better and I’d have more reason to go back to a half ton.
Same problem with semi trucks they get plugged up because the idle so much and if you can’t idle them. Problem with pick up dpf filter some of them are serviceable and some are not usually when they get plugged you clean them or bake them life of the dpf just went down so back in the shop again for more money for new dpf system.
My LB7 is for sure my favorite truck so far, but honestly, I'd love a nice new shiny 2022 Silverado 3500hd :) I think my 1st option would be to hit that bump a little hard and have that weird pipe thing fall off my truck tho lol. But thinking about it, fully rebuilding my LB7 might be a better idea... I love it, and it's only got 170k.
A couple of questions for you Truck Master. if someone stays up to date with the maintenance of a gas truck how long will it last? My second question is will it out last a diesel truck?
I went with a dually with the new 6.6 gasser from GM so far it’s been great 48k miles majority of those miles have been with a 18k gooseneck setup for my business.
@@repairvehicle I know it has direct injection I’ve had a catch can in it since 5k miles and run marvel mystery oil in my fuel and oil I clean the throttle body regularly as far as internals go I hope for the best. I’ll probably put B12Kem tool in it every 100k miles right before doing the plugs clean her out a little.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 , catch can do work on preventing carbon build up. Have these companies ever showed on their website carbon build up without catch can vs with catch can, no. Do you know why? Because they don’t work preventing carbon build up issue.
My 2023 3500HD dually is on order and apparently is on the line as we speak. As a commercial truck driver, dealing with SCR issues every day, I reluctantly ordered my daily driver dually as a gasser.
I test drove them all. The GMC was by far and away the best driver, and blew the other two out of the water acceleration wise. Bought the Denali, been perfect for 4 years now.
@@omardevonlittle3817 Imagine knowing so little about pulling trailers and getting onto highways/interstates, etc. Unless you like getting nailed in the ass, which I’m sure you do. Acceleration is pretty important… Btw 2500s weigh more than 6k pounds. Lol.
@@go4brp2 lol imagine knowing so little about acceleration that you think " feeling faster" matters. TFL drag races the trucks againt eachother every year. The big 3 are so close in every way you cannot say you have a mechanical preftence in good faith. Theyll all pull RELATIVELY the same. Now if we did a survey of agriculuture carriers, fuel carries and hot shotters theyll all say engine/exhaust braking is the mosy important thing about pulling... Ram is better at that by a wide margin, statistically speaking. You could make claims like your brakes will last twice as long, and the expierence is safer... saying "muh GM pulls harder n faster is a waste"
I work for a International dealer and we see the same problems in the medium duties with the 6.7 to 9 liter as well as the the 15 liter. Emissions has them all screwed up. Very expensive to fix.
The emissions make it hard to buy a diesel for local (in town) driving. I’ve heard good things about the Godzilla Ford gasser. If it was me, I’d spend the money and “restore” an LBZ and run it.
@@repairvehicle ain’t that the truth, ford fanboys always act like their truck is the best thing since sliced bread and that anyone who slightly disagrees with them is the devil, and this is coming from someone who owns a ford.
Ford burnt me hard on the 5.4 3V back in the day. Will never purchase another Ford because of that, but the 7.3 gasser is a great engine, simple old school design, there isn't much to go wrong.
Had an ‘06 lbz. Tuned it and blew head gaskets. Bought a ‘12 lml. Emissions trouble so deleted and tuned. Blew head gaskets and broke the crank. Now I have a ‘17 l5p. Having emissions trouble but I will not tune this one. I’m done with tunes causing motor failure. Whether it’s my fault or the tunes my trucks failures were linked to it.
For all but people who use diesel pickups for heavy hauling and trailering as part of their vocation, diesel pickups no longer make economic sense. The DPF/DEF/SCR emission systems are just too complex, and too expensive to maintain and repair. I, sadly, sold my 2012 diesel Super Duty when I retired from the vocation where I used the truck for what it was designed to do. A "layperson" with a pickup needs to understand that you don't just get in and drive a 2007+ MY emission-controlled diesel pickup, you must also manage it. That means, ridiculously sometimes, modifying your driving style and habits to meet the needs of the emission control system. Much as I love diesels (been around them since I was a kid), I will never buy a 2007+ MY diesel again. I have a pre-2007 diesel and I plan to drive it (and rebuild it, if necessary) for as long as possible. The EPA is determined to destroy the diesel engine in the U.S., with no regard to the fact that the entire economy depends on diesel engines in order to function. It's insane, but that is the kind of government that we have now.
I love my 5.3L!!!!!! I bought a 99 1500 with a 5.3, but it had over 400,000km. on it. Everything still worked and I only paid 400$ for the truck, and have added around 30,000kms, and recently went on a 6 thousand km trip that went perfectly
I’ve been tempted so many times to sell my 04 LB7 GMC and offered sick money for it. I just don’t trust the newer stuff. Another finger pointed at Washington.
That’s why I run an 04 with 8.1 gas Allison combo. Owned and towed with for 10 years. Gets 10 to 11 as long as I stay 75 or under . I have added 4.56 gears to make up for 33 inch tires. Only issue has been valve cover gaskets and an alternator. I have changed plugs wires hoses for maintenance. No regrets when I bought this truck from original owner it was about 15k less than a comparable duramax. Hoping to buy a new 24 gas to go with this one.
Newie, be gentle. I have a 2001 4 door sucide back doors 8ft bed Duramax. Hypertech tune only from first day. I have maintained truck garage kept. Run great. New injectors~65k. No other engine or drive train work done. I wouldn't mind doing some things to it not big tire just make stock items better. In short what is the best bang for my bucks and who would be good to do work. You are a long way off I really like watching your video. Very awesome. I am located in GA. Bought new now has 135420 miles on it. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Keep the great video coming.
After seeing the hotshot driver hauling the L5P home, it got me thinking: if I refreshed my '04 LB7 (engine, transmission, suspension, driveline, etc) I could easily start running hotshot. Probably cost me around $20k in parts to do it too. I just wouldn't be able to run it in Commie-fornia.
So you touched on a thought I had. If there was a failed harness and the truck wasn't doing "active" regen, that would be the reason the dpf got clogged so bad in the first place? I thought there's also "passive" regen where running it hard should get the exhaust hot enough to burn the soot out? But you hauled a truck long distance... Should have had lots of heat
I had a problem recently with my 2008 GMC duramax. Said dpf filter was plugged wouldn’t regenerate went into low power mode. My case ended up the air filter was plugged with a mouse nest throwing the computer off. New filter. Mechanic did a forced regen. Runs fine now. My truck has only 50k miles.
Josh ! this problem is in Europe very common.. that's why we also have a 2nd (bluedef) Adblue optispray variety. especially for trucks that do not always reach the regeneration temperature.. it ensures that you will not have problems with the Adblue system. I don't know if I can send you a bottle, but I can send you a picture of what it's called. I hope the damage is still manageable.
my buddy got a new dodge with a cummins last year and used it to plow and haul a sander through the winter and no issues. maybe hes just getting lucky so far but time will tell. he actually got a new ford first but it was nothing but problems for the few months he had it.
Had a 2016 Super duty with a 6.7 power stroke. Great truck. No issues when I sold it @ 94k miles. Last two HD trucks have been gas trucks. I tow several times a month up to 12k for trailer and load. The gas HD trucks have worked well for me. Love Diesel trucks. It’s just more truck than I need on most days. I’m not mad about the cost to maintain my Chevy 2500 HD w/ 6.6 gas. Great video
Banks Power Derringer Tuners with the iDash DataMonster are the only tuners that thoroughly test their tunes to OEM standards. They are the OEM manufacturer for any L5P used in the military. I have over 97,000 trouble free miles on my 2020 Chevy 2500 L5P. So yes, you can have your cake and eat it too. I love my High Country!
I've got a 2022 GMC Canyon with the 2.8L Duramax. I've only put about 10K miles on it so far, it had 18K when I bought it, and it's fantastic. I pull my 7K LB skid steer behind it with no issues. No emissions issues so far. I've got a 100K bumper-to-bumper on it. Hopefully if anything goes wrong with it, it goes wrong in the first 100K miles.
Diesel engines of any vintage need products like Hot Shots Secret. The Extreme Clean product is used at intervals. The EDT product is added to every fuel up. DEF issues can be reduced by refilling the tank at the halfway mark. The "ducted injection" and injecting air with the fuel. May eliminate the band aid devices.
I’ve always said that the emissions system should be warranted for life if they want us not to gut them !
Problem is that the manufacturers know they are garbage but the government mandates them, so they have no choice. Funny thing is that all the manufacturing, production, and subsequent waste caused by all the repairs is worse for the environment than pre-emissions. Classic case of the government mandating a solution that is worse than the problem.
That's the whole thing epa was pushing but auto manufactures now it's impossible to not go broke doing it so here all the people that bought the lie of emission controls and climate change blamed on a false agenda. It's all here and coming to the surface I plan to buy a older newer but nothing brand new no more than late 90s stay under those years.
will just increase the price. it's already ridiculous.
Yo tengo un 2001 chevy duramax 6.6 ya esta algo viejo 287 mil millas no le siento problemas pero si esta malo el chasis ya requiere de pintura y reconstruirlo la fe mia es en repararlo y mantenerlo con migo asta que se termine el motor porque aquí en Nueva York la sal de la nieve los oxidan luego pero me gusta escuchar a los chicos sus istorias y sus comentarios así aprendemos micho de ellos de las abilidades de ellos los aprecio mucho desde long island medford NY
As a Chevy tech for years and working on many Durmax. If you leave them stock they run for ever. We deal with many fleet commercial trucks that idle for ever no dpf problem. Only time we see problem is people adding tunes. Over loading the dpf system. I think if you never added the tuner to your L5P and left it stock. You would of never had a problem. I feel like your miss leading people by saying new diesel truck are unreliable. Because you didn’t state how your were launching the truck on Max tune. Causing DPF to over work it self. In my opinion the L5P is the best durmax made. Hands down. 🤙🏾
This guy is always modifying his truck engines. Tuners, deletes, add this or that, then acts like the expert. How about those of us who leave them alone and just maintain them My 06 LBZ is stock, nearing 300K, never left me on the side of the road. Just ordered a 2023 2500 AT4 Duramax that I plan on leaving alone
I’ve got a 2018 Duramax that I bought new for towing a large travel trailer. Only issue I’ve had is the Trailer Brake system alarms. It doesn’t like the stock trailer wiring harness plug, I guess. No real issues until a couple of months ago still with only about 65k miles. Got a CEL with P20EE code. Dealer did a manual regen and it’s been fine since. I just recently started running Hot Shot’s Everyday Diesel Treatment. It’s my daily driver and my commute consists of 23 miles each way, with 13 miles of each way on the highway. Any recommendations on what else to do in order to keep it going without problems? It’s still all stock…just the way it was born.
You hit the nail on the head brother!!!
@@gregmcauley2919 keep using the fuel additive. I have been reading this helps burn the fuel better and thus eliminating some of the soot. Also, limit your short drives (i.e. anything less than 15 minutes). Try not to just go 10 min down the road to the store, shut the truck off, then after done in the store turn it back on and drive only 10 min back home. Keep those to a minimum or never and i believe we will have no issues. I personally also during a re-gen am not afraid to do a pull or two from a stop at half to 3/4 throttle.... wake that motor up, clean the injectors out and help blow that soot out when that DPF is at its hottest. Just my $0.02. I am also just getting into starting to use liqui moly DPF cleaner. This stuff is supposed to help break soot up in the DPF and only needs to be ran every 1200 miles or so the bottle says. My intention is to just run a bottle thru around each oil change. FYI I have a 2024 3500 HD L5P currently sitting at 70K miles and my daily driver as well. I drive about 26 miles to work every day and about 20 of that is highway. I also do contract hauling and have a once a week 500 mile round trip that I make with it. this helps also. These new trucks like LONG drives.....
also drove to Skagway Alaska from kalamazoo Michigan back in August of this year. 6300 miles round trip pulling a 30 foot toy hauler (8500 pounds loaded down). Truck never skipped a single beat in the mountains, on the flats, anywhere. No problems towing up the steepest hills I have ever seen.
Going through the same right now! I have an LB7 with 424,000 miles. Considering upgrading, but I honestly can’t trust a newer truck like I do mine. Truck still runs great! It really sucks emissions has done this to diesels
Lb7 for life 🇺🇸
Lb7 are awesome.
I'm keeping mine.
I’m paying 7k to have my trans rebuilt on my lb7 and I’d gladly do that many more times before buying a newer truck. Mine runs better and is more fun than any new one I’ve been in. Also have had the occasional challenge and I’ve laid them all out lol
I traded my lb7 for my l5p. I really miss that truck. I like tech. & the hp/torq. is incredible, but the reliability has been lacking.
LB7 Fan Here! It's a great truck.......
The government has regulated these trucks to much. They are totally choked down. I would definitely think twice before buying a new one or have really deep pockets.
I can't even imagine the insurance rates they are paying also.
Not true. I have 11 fleet trucks 9 Rams and 2 f450. Never had any emission issue with either one. My highest mileage truck has 850k
It's 2022. Buying a new diesel and paying to fuel it will give you no pockets.
True story
@@timw8228full coverage, liability on another vehicle, 10k renters insurance policy and 100k life insurance policy, I pay $120/month.
I know it's slow and not a tow monster, but I'll stick with my old '84 Chevy 6.2L Diesel. Pull a 12k lbs. and it always gets me where I need to go.
Tooo true man
I have and would definitely buy a new diesel. I purchased a 2020 GMC Sierra HD Duramax 10 speed Allison. Keeping it stock. It Works perfectly still. Love your channel, especially with family. Thank your for inviting us in to your journey.
I have a LBZ , I pull nothing .. it’s sitting right now because I don’t want to pay the fuel prices .. only got 115k miles
I was thinking about replacing my old toilet, but decided otherwise when I learned it's a felony to disable, tamper with the flush duration, quantity of water used per flush, or float level on the new models. I also heard they are putting ECMs on the newer models as well. The computer monitors and limits the number of flushes. And yes, they are going after the toilet delete kit manufacturers and tuners now too. I think I'll just keep fixing my old toilet for as long as possible. Same with my older higher flow shower heads. And yes, the tags on my matresss are still attached. So I'm completely prepared for the EPA when they kick my door in with guns drawn for their random compliance inspections. My neighbor said they slapped their rubber stamped warrant directly into his raised trembling hands last week. May you live in Interesting times.
Don't the new toi.ets have pee sensors as well
The way I look at it is if you want to keep it with all the emissions it’s fine BUT we shouldn’t have to be governed to make our vehicles require less maintenance and cost of running. But that’s just my opinion on the way the epa has kinda been overstepping these last few years!
EPA has never been authorized according to the Constitution.
@@dustinryan9671 I'm not saying you are wrong, but could you please cite exactly where you are getting this from? Specifically, what part of the Constitution would authorize the EPA, or what part of the constitution is it that makes the EPA "not authorized by the Constitution"?
I personally believe that the EPA is exercising far too much power over industry, especially the automotive/truck industry, with regards to ever-tightening emissions regulations and standards. I mean, the EPA is the ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, so shouldn't they be looking at the negative effects on the environment caused by mining lithium and cobalt (for example) to produce electric vehicles?? Where are the studies on the effects of electric vehicle use, using the total environmental impact (and not just the "tailpipe" emissions) of the entire ecosystem required for electric vehicles to replace gas/diesel-powered vehicles?? Hmmmmm......I'll hazard a guess they don't exist. Any EPA employees want to chime in here?
@@mx3727 The Constitution provides two primary purposes. It sets forth the role of government and the limits of its operation. The five basic functions of the government is to coin money, regulate commerce (this did not mean they have freedom to regulate everything), declare war, establish a post office, protect the rights of Americans (not part of the five but given), and protect the borders from invasion (maintain armed forces). It’s often misunderstood as giving us rights which is not correct. God gives us our rights the government is charged with protecting them; the founders were particular about this. Jefferson was excessively driving this point home, and Madison obsessed even more on the subject. Most people do not read The Federalist Papers, but it is the guideline to the Constitution that really breaks this stuff down.
If the Constitution does not provide a specific list of the role, then the Federal Government does not have it granted, it defaults to the states and the People. Also, you have to remember the EPA was founded in 1970; American businesses had already been improving emissions in manufacturing since the Industrial Revolution, and they did that on their own for the most part. It’s no secret that the EPA is in the hands of big business. If they were not, why did they not arrest Dow Chemical management all people involved in manufacturing Agent Orange, which has killed millions of service members, men, women, and children? They knew how poisonous it was before even using it (This is one example of many). The Constitution states explicitly Congress can not delegate its powers to anyone, which means federal agencies have no authority because it can’t be delegated, so Congress is supposed to create all laws, there is no such thing as Congress making regulations only. Just like City Ordnances is not law but now I am digressing.
Focusing back to the Commerce Clause, the EPA was founded on this written section of the Constitution. The hard pill to swallow is this does not pertain to the private citizen. There were many restrictions to this on how the federal government could regulate commerce between states and the international community. Read some Jefferson or Madison writings on limited government; this will make more sense then.
At the end of the day for us diesel-loving dudes, our little coal factories are not doing what the experts say it’s doing. Everything our trucks kick out is broken down in the environment and put back to use somewhere somehow, just like a water treatment facility. By the way, poisons billions of people by putting one of the most toxic chemicals known to man in the water supply…..Fluoride! But the experts say that is good for the teeth. If you read under Safety Data Sheet, you will see there is no reasonable amount to ingest as its extremely toxic
Unfortunately Capt. We don't manufacturer our trucks its done by a Private Company. Its up to us if we want to purchase them. That's Why and this is my opinion. You want a good Diesel. Before spending a Dick Fortune on a truck to change up. Find a 2000 Truck for a song and dance. Strip it down to nothing and rebuild it your way. I would make sure the smoke trail from the vertical pipes I would install could be seen as far as Wisconsin. But that's me.
Loving my 5.9 2007 Ram. I have one of the last 5.9's made. No emission choking equipment. Completely stock, just a good running strong engine. Yes, the new ones are nicer but I'm gonna stay with my reliable honey-baby.
I just had My 9th injector replaced, They did a rejen and it's running fine again. I have 2015 GMC Denali.
Love the honesty. I've had lots of friends say they want a diesel truck. I usually tell them that if they don't need a diesel for pulling, they should stick with gas. Love my LBZ, but if I didn't pull a big trailer I would go back to gas. Way cheaper and like you said "turn the key and go".
I appreciate the feedback
Had my lbz at the carwash and the young guy asks if my truck is for sale. I asked, you got money to buy this truck? He said maybe, I said, "you better invest that then!"
I sold my lbz for a gas truck because I went from pulling constantly to seldom. I totally regret it. The terrible fuel economy of the gas truck makes up the price increase for diesel maintenance costs atleast. Not for major diesel repair of course but that's not something that necessarily very often
@@TruckMaster are you doing a giveaway? I think you have a scammer trying scam your followers. Posting a telegram link trying to get people's info. Or is that you??
I'm sorry but the difference in fuel economy, loaded and unloaded, makes up the difference in oil changes, filters, etc... Especially when diesel comes back down when a cognitively unimpaired President retakes office. Nearly 2x the torque, more HP's, and better gas mileage...no brainer for me. To each their own for their particular uses though. Here in Colorado, up and down all day, stickin with diesel. Looking for '17 18 19 L5P right now.
I got a 2015 Chevy Silverado 3500HD Dually with the Duramax Engine and Allison Transmission and it Has 508,000 Miles and still running strong!!!!! If you stay on top of your Maintenance These engines can last a long time
You are 100 percent correct. Newer diesel trucks because of the emissions are no longer reliable. Fact is the manufacturers are aware of this too. The emissions require more fuel and the economy of a diesel is no longer there. I do not see how burning more diesel and running it through the new emission systems is cutting back on pollutions.
LB7 never left me stranded. Nothin more American then rolling up the miles on an old diesel 🇺🇸
That’s because truckmaster didn’t touch it
Great update Josh been thinking about buying newer Duramax but I think I will keep my 2007 LBZ with 280,000 miles it runs great.. love the channel..
Same here.
I'll give you $5,000 for it
I’m keeping my LB7. 256 thousand on the clock I have lots of life left. Paint is looking cheap at this point lol
Still don't know which is best?
Made great comments, I was close to pulling a trigger on a 6.7 powerstroke but decided to leave the money in the bank and get a 7.3. Ancient and underpowered but for what I need I think I should be fine. Great video
I had two duramax duallys and they drove and pulled like a dream. Both of them left me multiple times due to issues related to the emissions systems. I just got sick of dealing with and went back to gas. You are fortunate to be able to do your own work.
I’d definitely be interested in a full breakdown/explanation video of the EPA and emissions stuff in diesels if you’d make one!
same
I have a 2012 Chevy duramax when I got the truck is had a check engine light but it was only the glow plugs. But I replaced all of them and did a full delete and it runs good
I've had several gasser trucks over the years that all did great, but once you tow with a Diesel on long trips, you'll never want to go back to gas. That being said, I will keep my LLY going for as long as I can vs. Buying an 11+
I agree, I never knew how much of a difference it was to pull with a diesel, I’ve always had gas trucks, i couldn’t believe how much better it was for me personally, I have an 04, and I’ll keep it till the wheels fall off.
After pulling with a Duramax, no way in hell would I ever go back to gas, gas is great in my wifes 2018 Maxima.
2011 Super Duty 6.7Just now on my second go around with the death crap ( heater sender fu%*&( Truck has 84,000 on ithardly drive it I think that's part of my problemHow do I know how many grams of crap I have in there?
Great video Josh!! The GMC looks really nice, only thing that lets it down is the emissions crap, I plan to keep my LBZ 2500HD for as long as possible, I tow 16000lb and my truck performs very well and has been very reliable, the older engines seem to be easier to live with, and sound better too ..
I'm totally happy with my 01 2nd gen dodge 2500 federal emission quad short bed 4x4 truck. No Cats from the factory. 6 speed on the floor with 137,000 on the clock. Goodies under the hood with E.O. stickers. Keeper for life. Thanks for the vid.
I bought a 2018 GMC in April 2020, and sold it May 2022 with 32,000 miles on it for 9000 more than I paid for it after many problems with the dpf and egr system. I learned my lesson with the new junk, and went back to a 2002 Chevy with 200,000 miles on it. I now have a much older truck with Many more miles on it, and I no longer worry about the reliability
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I have an 07.5 Silverado 3/4 ton with the 6.0 gas and to be honest, I love it! I did have it regeared from 3.73 to 4.56 and it tows amazing even with 35's. I love diesels but the cost of operation and maintainence just isnt worth it for me. Love the channel!!! Keep up the awesome content!!
With the cost of new considered. Would you trade a 2016 5.3 125k miles for an 07 3500 LBZ with 225k tuned and deleted? We own two 5.3 1500 a 2016 and a 2020. I think itd be nice to have gas and diesel potential for farm work especially.
The LBZ is mint but likely driven fast but never towed 5th wheel not installed 🏁
I've heard or been advised to stay away from anything tuned and deleted because of the weak pistons and there potential to crack
After watching everything that you went through, I would not ever buy a "newer style" truck. I have a friend who has a 2015 3500 and it has been in the shop for emissions system problems every other month. I will stick with the older trucks all day long! Love the channel! Keep doing what you do man!
My brother in law has a 2015 duramax with 45,000 miles. It is on its third cp4 pump and has had many other problems. The low miles is mostly due to all the down time in the shop. Ill stick with the older stuff.
My mom had the same truck same color but bigger wheels and was pulling the same issues she traded in and got half ton Silverado good to have both gas and diesel
I'm a firm believer in Hot Shots secret EDT fuel additive. It has increased the mileage between regens on my stock 2015 LML, as well as adding much needed lubricity to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel. I have the Edge CTS2 and watch soot grams closely. Also I'm able to have the Edge CTS2 perform a mobile manual regen if needed, vs a regen that is short cycled by stop and go driving. Just saying what works for me. Keep up the good work Josh!
Do you still run the CP4 pump? How many miles you at?
@@thebrothers4311 Yes, still have the OE pump. Mileage 104,000
@popybrown Thanks for responding. I'm looking at a 2015 with 160k miles. I'll definitely be using the Hot Shots secret EDT amd I'm thinking about adding a CP4 saver. Extended warranty will cover it does fail...
@@popybrown Exergy Fuel System Saver - Duramax LML
@@thebrothers4311 Thx, I’ll check it out.
17 duramax and my emissions stuff kept giving me problems, NoX sensors, def pump, etc. Emissions have left the chat and I couldn’t be happier
Thanks for the update Josh, I drive the identical truck and about to drive across country from SOFL to Central Oregon and have concerns about the tuning causing the same problem which the tech guy at Pulsar also told me it can block up the DPF filter or regen around 3-4 times more often. After seeing what you went through I've pulled my tuner and the truck actually runs better but sadly at the expense of MPG... I'm in two minds regarding the full delete. Keep up your honest reviews...
Love my ‘07 cummins! The torque is amazing! Especially when towing! No DEF, no DPF!👍👍
which on is that the 5.9
Don’t you have an EGR though?
Stay away from a newer, lower mileage Duramax that was used as a grocery getter. All the stop and go, short trip drives can (will) ruin the DPF because driving short trips fails to finish the regen process properly and the next trip isn't long enough to complete the regen and the problem just gets worse and worse until you get stranded.
Although I have had several expensive problems due to aging, I love my '06 LBZ but I now tow 5K more than it is designed for so I am forced to upgrade. Just ordered a `23 GMC and am not worried one bit about it. Besides that, the 5Y/100K warranty covers almost all the emissions items. I will use the truck for what it was intended for (towing) and leave the grocery getting to my gas car.
We bought s '19 Duramax new 11/18, kept it 15 months, and traded for a 2020 gmc 2500 gas truck. The particulate exhaust filter did me in also.
I bought it to pull 8,000 lb travel trailer but had to use as daily driver. My little town has so many red lights it needed to Regen every 6 days or 80 miles, and it won't Regen in town. It needs 20 miles at over 30 mph with no stops, so had to drive to next town to Regen. In 15 months, ONE THIRD of the miles we're the special trips just to Regen.
The new 6.7 gas engine pulls the trailer just fine and is s blast to drive.
You are absolutely right. Gasser is definitely the practical way to go when buying new.
Why not buy diesel new and trade in before warranty is up?
The practical purchase is not a frigin new purchase at all, Vehicles have gone crazy with all the sensors and computer chips, plastic replacing iron parts, I'm glad to have invested in my GMC SIERRA SLE HD 2500 6.6 DURAMAX LMM! Have owned GMC SIERRA 5.7 V-8 gasoline truck and that was a good truck, it was a 1990 though! I put that truck threw hell and still got 300k plus out of er! Lmm in Colorado 🤠 5 happy Duramax years and running Awesome! Hell Yea! 🤘
@@ronaldbabbitt6318you accidentally said "invested"
I've always had good luck with Gale Banks products. My wife and I are going to upgrade our 2019 L5P dually with his products. We also run F-Bomb fuel additive to help with the fuel system. Great video, thanks for sharing brother.
Love your videos. Emissions compliant tuning will never be as good or "better" than a full delete/tune. These newer trucks are already less reliable with the emissions, let alone force feeding them with more power.
"Emission compliant tuning will never be as good or "better" than a full delete/tune." With regards to making ridiculous amounts of power, sure, assuming you are keeping the factory emissions system and not engineering a larger DOC/DPF/SCR system that will match the performance modifications done (which is the case in, well, 100% of all builds). But you will also never meet the emissions performance of the stock truck after you delete/tune it either, and if you disagree with me, then you don't understand how the emissions system works.
If you simultaneously upgraded the emissions system (DOC/DPF/SCR, as well as the EGR cooler and valve) to handle the performance upgrades on the rest of the engine, then your comment would be inaccurate. Emissions-compliant tuning WOULD be as good (or better) than a full delete/tune on performance AND emissions. The problem: people are stuffing more fuel and air into the engine and expecting the STOCK emissions equipment to function AS DESIGNED. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that is completely and utterly unrealistic. But hey, it's the emissions equipment's fault, right?
I'd hazard a guess that 99% of diesel truck owners chose to delete their truck rather than install a new DPF system (or an upgraded one, if it was available) simply because it's thousands of dollars CHEAPER (plus, all the "experts" are telling them that's what they should do). It's just crappy emissions equipment that will be nothing but trouble after all........
@@mx3727 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep. Since I deleted, I haven't had one issue with my Ram. Drives like a Corvette. No regrets.
@@alaska-bornfloridaman How many miles on your truck? I have 115k on my 2017 Cummins and I also haven't had a single issue with the engine, transmission or aftertreatment system. Of course, my truck is stock save for a PPE trans pan, Banks rear diff cover and AFe front diff cover, so that's pretty much what I would expect. I also tow quite a bit with it, so it always does a passive regen on the DPF.
You deleted it - just the DPF/SCR system, or EGR as well? What mods have you done, and what tuner?
I mean, if you delete your truck then you of course won't have issues with the aftertreatment system. But, if your truck is not tuned properly and billows black smoke (I saw lots of trucks in FL on the road doing exactly that), then you are certainly not helping the environment either. I personally believe with proper modifications and tuning, you can have great performance and keep the aftertreatment system intact, and have great reliability.
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I personally deleted everything. EGR included. Anyone who's mechanically inclined can do it. I used the EFI live tune from a guy out of Canada. It has 5 settings. I put a heavy truck camper in and tow a trailer, and have never needed anything beyond the economy setting on the tuner. Not a whisp of smoke on that setting. I'm not trying to roll coal, just make my truck last and get better mileage. I get 23mpg on the highway. Much better than with the emissions crap. I deleted at about 100,000 miles. I'm not exaggerating when I say it drives like a Corvette now. The difference is insane.
Also: I deleted it because the SCR was completely clogged with def, sensors were needing replaced, and the turbo was completed locked up. It was a mess.
Yep, I still want a diesel. At some point I’m getting a 5th wheel, need a diesel for the power.
I love the fact your brother flashed the park bench at you! Haha He’s got jokes!
I bought a 33hp Kubota tractor in 2018 or 2019 and it would have to regen, which is ridiculous. I vowed then, I’d stay old school if I ever do get another diesel truck.
If we all went horse and buggy, they’d restrict that too! Make us filter the exhaust! 🐎 💨
I love my deletes LML ! 2015 HIGH COUNTRY 3500 HD.
I noticed when i don’t use fuel additive my truck smokes a lot more, almost twice as much. So might be good to add to a emissions truck to reduce the soot output. I use the xdp diesel additive. It increases my mpg also by about .5. I think its a great additive for my duramax. Keep up the good work man!
I have a 2019 GMC 2500HD and had 2 issues and took care of all the issues just prior to the ruling. Glad I did and quite happy. Sticking with this for the long road. Keep it and best of luck with it.
I have a 2019 duramax. Completely stock and runs with no issues. Like you said all the brands have their issues and I agree you have to really take care of these trucks with the emissions on them. I love my truck and couldn’t be happier with it!
For some reason that particular body style 2015 to 2019 2500 Denali look so cool with the offset wheels and tires. Also the gauge cluster in my opinion are better looking than the newer Denali’s very nice trucks overall
i was mostly happy with a gasser with the exception of pulling a camping trailer up mountain passes here in the pacific northwest, switched to a duramax and it's easy towing now.
Older diesel for me. You can still find them. Great trucks.
My wife and I purchased our first diesel truck. It was a brand new 2017 f350 6.7 powerstroke we took delivery back in late 2017. It is my daily driver and it pulls the rv trailer frequently as we live and travel full-time on the road since early 2018 and present. It is now at 113,000 miles. I did just basic maintenance myself on the road and all are intack and no mods done except for after market steering stabilizer. It might be our last diesel but who knows since I just turned 40 y.o. this year and we might buy our used and last diesel or used gas truck down the road until no longer able to drive and must hung the keys and just for looks only...lol.
You said it was tuned yeah? Who did the tuning? A poor tune, or a canned tune can cause problems. Additionally, how many miles on that thing? What are the engine hours looking like? What was the idle hours? Emissions systems are terrible when idling often, if that truck had a lot of idle time then that can be a major source of issues.
I get that no one likes emissions equipment, and most of us would prefer to hear our trucks and have fun with them, but the day of deletes is waning fast. The better thing would be to focus on what can we do with these systems? What kind of power can we get out of them, how can we further their reliability and longevity.
You said that the LBZ wouldn't have left you stranded, but in the beginning of the video you talked about all the issues you had with it. I think we have a tendency to look at things from the past and think "that was when they built stuff well", and outside of the dash on every second gen I may agree with you, but I think it's time for the next chapter. Keep the non emissions trucks, because they are awesome, but lets see what life looks like with this newer stuff. The same deal happened with gasser guys back in the day, and look at the performance gas side of things now.
Way to go, informed and thoughtful comment ! Thankfully someone who isn't living in the past, dreaming of a 1950's America. The problem is the manufacturers quality control, maybe if the gubbermint hadn't bailed out GM they would have been replaced by a company that builds vehicles with pride and gives a shit about the customer.
I work for a garbage company and we have tons of problems with the emissions .
.that's why I own a 2006 dodge cummins diesel ⛽️.
....the only thing that I've done is put a 6 inches straight through exhaust and I've never had any problems
My duramax is an 07 classic lbz, love it. Never any problems, very stock.
I've owned five new duramax trucks, all 3/4ton 4x4 from 2006, 2009, no DEF, 2012, 2015, and 2018, absolutely loved them, BUT the D.E.F fluid system was a hassle, great when its under warranty, but the inconvenience of when it happened was always when I was out of town, got tired of being in limp mode at 7km per hour! I left two of these at the dealership, one of which was the 2018. I now drive a 2200 5.3 elevation.....so far so good....
The Pulsar is your problem!! The L5P is extremely reliable but you should never tow with a tuner on the highest level on a emissions truck, produces way more soot than the truck can burn during regen and causing the DPF to run away with soot and puts you in limp mode. If you want more power then delete it, if not stick with an older truck.
Try keeping the RPM's higher when cruising level with your new truck; keeping the DPF at the temperature at which regen can occur automatically will keep the soot levels down. It's pretty funny that the EPA is mandating equipment that makes us drive more inefficiently at higher RPMs and burn more fuel for them to work but I've found that this helps.
I've been researching a ton in anticipation of buying a 2024 Silverado 2500 in terms of tunes and performance upgrades. A lot of what your channel provides has been awesome in terms of research. Unfortunately for me, I have emissions testing in my county so any tuning has to be emissions friendly. One thing that came to mind was the video Gail Banks came up with was the Pulsar (earlier model) vs the Derringer. In his tests he showed that the Pulsar was showing significant issues with regens and temps. I don't know what they improved on the V3 model, but seeing your issue/breakdown shows that they still haven't solved some of their issues. Granted the Derringer is hamstrung by default because Banks keeps things within the "guardrails". But for rather pedestrian drivers like me the Derringer might be my choice for "tunes" just so I can avoid issues with the newer trucks emission equipment.
At this point I won’t trust any emissions tunes at all
My 94 f250 idi is just fine.....and no payments
The only way I’d buy a newer diesel truck is if it were deleted or I paid to get it deleted myself if money is no problem. I bought a 6.7 Megacab earlier this year that was deleted and the thing was a dream. Sadly I found that the cost of diesel made me realize I don’t “need” a diesel yet. Maybe another day..
I know a lot of people didn't like the rectangular wheel arches or the front headlights and grill of the 2014 GMC Trucks but man that shot at 3:01 looks awesome. Love that style!
I love your videos. You’re completely right, I know a handful of individuals who own trucking companies and they’re singing the same tune. Brutal unreliability, awful fuel economy. Just took my lml on a 1600km round trip and averaged 8L/100km (almost 30mpg), I hate to be that guy but It sure runs good with a little weight reduction lol. Totally understand where you’re coming from tho, I hope the L5p treats you good from here on out!
I just got my truck back from the dealer today as we wait for a new DPF filter. 2019 F250 with 22k miles towing an 8k trailer. Service guy said the DPFs are on backorder and can't give me an exact date... If it wasn't for the warranty she would be getting some weight loss. Truck has been perfect other than the darn p2002 code....
I recently bought a 2015 Denali. I'm very happy with everything about this truck except the emissions activity. I've considered trading for a gasser. However, I financed it so I'm probably stuck with it for a while. I think if you're not pulling loads heavier than a gasser can pull, it's probably not a good idea to go with a newer diesel.
That’s why I have a 2007 2500 hd classic with a 8.1 no gas mileage but it will pull anything
You and me buddy- 2006 2500HD L18 8.1 Vortec SLT with 6speed Allison…..230k miles running strong. Just putting a Kodiak NP263XHD transfer case in Mark built….Engine running smooth as silk. 13.4MPG pulling air in the 6.5 bed behind the quad cab…..love every reliable mile!!!😆👍
After owning every brand of diesel I finally said to hell with it… I have my old ones but ordered a 22 gmc with the 6.6 gas. So far it has done everything I have needed to do… cows, hay, etc. it does not pull like a diesel but like you said… crank it up and go. Old diesels were a no brainer, not so much anymore.
I went 6.4 hemi megacab and it does pretty good towing and hauling..not like a diesel but hp and torque on modern gassers are great. I don't want the dpf or Def headache.
@@MrStaybrown yes sir, get in it and drive..
I bought my first and last diesel truck in early 2017.
A new 2016 GMC Canyon crew cab 4x4 long bed. It has the Duramax 2.8 turbo diesel. The truck had been flawless and fit my needs perfectly. Really enjoyed it until this summer. At 90K miles it developed a leak in the head gasket, leaked out coolant and overheated without any warning. The dealership also determined the head gasket was warped. To replace both the head gasket and head I’m in just under 8K. To add insult to injury it was in the shop for 10 weeks due to GM parts back orders. This is both my last diesel and last GM vehicle.
First time Duramax owner (2016) coming from always having half ton 6.2l and 5.3l gassers. The Duramax is a much better vehicle in my opinion. It is effortless highway driving and obvious torque is great for towing. Even empty I’d rather drive the Duramax……I wish the 3.0L Duramax was better and I’d have more reason to go back to a half ton.
Same problem with semi trucks they get plugged up because the idle so much and if you can’t idle them. Problem with pick up dpf filter some of them are serviceable and some are not usually when they get plugged you clean them or bake them life of the dpf just went down so back in the shop again for more money for new dpf system.
My LB7 is for sure my favorite truck so far, but honestly, I'd love a nice new shiny 2022 Silverado 3500hd :) I think my 1st option would be to hit that bump a little hard and have that weird pipe thing fall off my truck tho lol. But thinking about it, fully rebuilding my LB7 might be a better idea... I love it, and it's only got 170k.
Don't even have 100,000 on my LB7. Been a great truck!
A couple of questions for you Truck Master. if someone stays up to date with the maintenance of a gas truck how long will it last? My second question is will it out last a diesel truck?
I went with a dually with the new 6.6 gasser from GM so far it’s been great 48k miles majority of those miles have been with a 18k gooseneck setup for my business.
You ready for carbon build up issue associated with direct injection?
@@repairvehicle I know it has direct injection I’ve had a catch can in it since 5k miles and run marvel mystery oil in my fuel and oil I clean the throttle body regularly as far as internals go I hope for the best. I’ll probably put B12Kem tool in it every 100k miles right before doing the plugs clean her out a little.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 , catch can do work on preventing carbon build up. Have these companies ever showed on their website carbon build up without catch can vs with catch can, no. Do you know why? Because they don’t work preventing carbon build up issue.
My 2023 3500HD dually is on order and apparently is on the line as we speak. As a commercial truck driver, dealing with SCR issues every day, I reluctantly ordered my daily driver dually as a gasser.
@@RoadDogMedia You won’t be let down the gasser is definitely no slouch.
1989-2007 is the Golden Era of American diesel trucks. All of them are worth having.
I test drove them all. The GMC was by far and away the best driver, and blew the other two out of the water acceleration wise. Bought the Denali, been perfect for 4 years now.
I put the Banks Derringer, Monster Air Intake, Monster exhaust, and Icon Suspension. It blows my buddies deleted Powerstroke away.
Imagine acceleration being the deciding factor on a 6k pound 2500 diesel. Lmao. Your truck is slow as dogshit. Period.
@@omardevonlittle3817 Imagine knowing so little about pulling trailers and getting onto highways/interstates, etc. Unless you like getting nailed in the ass, which I’m sure you do. Acceleration is pretty important… Btw 2500s weigh more than 6k pounds. Lol.
@@go4brp2 lol imagine knowing so little about acceleration that you think " feeling faster" matters. TFL drag races the trucks againt eachother every year. The big 3 are so close in every way you cannot say you have a mechanical preftence in good faith. Theyll all pull RELATIVELY the same. Now if we did a survey of agriculuture carriers, fuel carries and hot shotters theyll all say engine/exhaust braking is the mosy important thing about pulling... Ram is better at that by a wide margin, statistically speaking. You could make claims like your brakes will last twice as long, and the expierence is safer... saying "muh GM pulls harder n faster is a waste"
I work for a International dealer and we see the same problems in the medium duties with the 6.7 to 9 liter as well as the the 15 liter. Emissions has them all screwed up. Very expensive to fix.
The emissions make it hard to buy a diesel for local (in town) driving. I’ve heard good things about the Godzilla Ford gasser. If it was me, I’d spend the money and “restore” an LBZ and run it.
Same thing people said about ford 5.4 when came to the market. It’s has ton of flaws just like 5.4
@@repairvehicle, hmm. Hadn’t heard that. Hated the 5.4 myself though!
@@justinperry4587 ford fans will never tell you the truth. It’s like politics one way or hit the jail
@@repairvehicle ain’t that the truth, ford fanboys always act like their truck is the best thing since sliced bread and that anyone who slightly disagrees with them is the devil, and this is coming from someone who owns a ford.
Ford burnt me hard on the 5.4 3V back in the day. Will never purchase another Ford because of that, but the 7.3 gasser is a great engine, simple old school design, there isn't much to go wrong.
Had an ‘06 lbz. Tuned it and blew head gaskets. Bought a ‘12 lml. Emissions trouble so deleted and tuned. Blew head gaskets and broke the crank. Now I have a ‘17 l5p. Having emissions trouble but I will not tune this one. I’m done with tunes causing motor failure. Whether it’s my fault or the tunes my trucks failures were linked to it.
For all but people who use diesel pickups for heavy hauling and trailering as part of their vocation, diesel pickups no longer make economic sense. The DPF/DEF/SCR emission systems are just too complex, and too expensive to maintain and repair. I, sadly, sold my 2012 diesel Super Duty when I retired from the vocation where I used the truck for what it was designed to do. A "layperson" with a pickup needs to understand that you don't just get in and drive a 2007+ MY emission-controlled diesel pickup, you must also manage it. That means, ridiculously sometimes, modifying your driving style and habits to meet the needs of the emission control system. Much as I love diesels (been around them since I was a kid), I will never buy a 2007+ MY diesel again. I have a pre-2007 diesel and I plan to drive it (and rebuild it, if necessary) for as long as possible. The EPA is determined to destroy the diesel engine in the U.S., with no regard to the fact that the entire economy depends on diesel engines in order to function. It's insane, but that is the kind of government that we have now.
I love my 5.3L!!!!!!
I bought a 99 1500 with a 5.3, but it had over 400,000km. on it. Everything still worked and I only paid 400$ for the truck, and have added around 30,000kms, and recently went on a 6 thousand km trip that went perfectly
I’ve been tempted so many times to sell my 04 LB7 GMC and offered sick money for it. I just don’t trust the newer stuff. Another finger pointed at Washington.
That’s why I run an 04 with 8.1 gas Allison combo. Owned and towed with for 10 years. Gets 10 to 11 as long as I stay 75 or under . I have added 4.56 gears to make up for 33 inch tires. Only issue has been valve cover gaskets and an alternator. I have changed plugs wires hoses for maintenance. No regrets when I bought this truck from original owner it was about 15k less than a comparable duramax. Hoping to buy a new 24 gas to go with this one.
No way in hell i would ever buy a newer/new diesel truck.
Newie, be gentle.
I have a 2001 4 door sucide back doors 8ft bed Duramax. Hypertech tune only from first day.
I have maintained truck garage kept.
Run great. New injectors~65k. No other engine or drive train work done.
I wouldn't mind doing some things to it not big tire just make stock items better.
In short what is the best bang for my bucks and who would be good to do work.
You are a long way off
I really like watching your video. Very awesome.
I am located in GA.
Bought new now has 135420 miles on it.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Keep the great video coming.
After seeing the hotshot driver hauling the L5P home, it got me thinking: if I refreshed my '04 LB7 (engine, transmission, suspension, driveline, etc) I could easily start running hotshot. Probably cost me around $20k in parts to do it too. I just wouldn't be able to run it in Commie-fornia.
I have that same truck I had the same problem I deleted my truck and it feels brand new I will never deal with DEF again
Moral of the story………should’ve gotten the powerstroke🤣🤷♂️
Nice 😂👍
Hey truckmaster! Can we get a drawer by drawer toolbox tour? Would love to see the brands and the types of tools you use everyday!
So you touched on a thought I had. If there was a failed harness and the truck wasn't doing "active" regen, that would be the reason the dpf got clogged so bad in the first place?
I thought there's also "passive" regen where running it hard should get the exhaust hot enough to burn the soot out? But you hauled a truck long distance... Should have had lots of heat
I had a problem recently with my 2008 GMC duramax. Said dpf filter was plugged wouldn’t regenerate went into low power mode. My case ended up the air filter was plugged with a mouse nest throwing the computer off. New filter. Mechanic did a forced regen. Runs fine now. My truck has only 50k miles.
Josh ! this problem is in Europe very common.. that's why we also have a 2nd (bluedef) Adblue optispray variety. especially for trucks that do not always reach the regeneration temperature.. it ensures that you will not have problems with the Adblue system. I don't know if I can send you a bottle, but I can send you a picture of what it's called. I hope the damage is still manageable.
my buddy got a new dodge with a cummins last year and used it to plow and haul a sander through the winter and no issues. maybe hes just getting lucky so far but time will tell. he actually got a new ford first but it was nothing but problems for the few months he had it.
Had a 2016 Super duty with a 6.7 power stroke. Great truck. No issues when I sold it @ 94k miles.
Last two HD trucks have been gas trucks. I tow several times a month up to 12k for trailer and load. The gas HD trucks have worked well for me.
Love Diesel trucks. It’s just more truck than I need on most days. I’m not mad about the cost to maintain my Chevy 2500 HD w/ 6.6 gas.
Great video
Banks Power Derringer Tuners with the iDash DataMonster are the only tuners that thoroughly test their tunes to OEM standards. They are the OEM manufacturer for any L5P used in the military. I have over 97,000 trouble free miles on my 2020 Chevy 2500 L5P. So yes, you can have your cake and eat it too. I love my High Country!
My 16 lml is deleted and I have wayyyy less problems, I ain't changing in awhile, just did my kryptonite front end and so far I'm happy with it
I've was raised a Chevy guy, til 2018. Which I think was the last of the good looking trucks. I just bought a 2022 ram 5500 and it's a gutless wonder
I've got a 2022 GMC Canyon with the 2.8L Duramax. I've only put about 10K miles on it so far, it had 18K when I bought it, and it's fantastic. I pull my 7K LB skid steer behind it with no issues. No emissions issues so far. I've got a 100K bumper-to-bumper on it. Hopefully if anything goes wrong with it, it goes wrong in the first 100K miles.
I found an 03 LB7 FE9 dually a true gem in my eyes I did the fuel injector job myself and it's done vary well
I would make a bypass pipe to have on hand to get back home with. Cheaper than $2000.00 tow bill.
looked a new 2019 Ram diesel and did not get it simply because i was told the emissions was not covered under any warranty. So I went with gas.
I live in Missouri we only have safety inspection for diesels.
Diesel engines of any vintage need products like Hot Shots Secret. The Extreme Clean product is used at intervals. The EDT product is added to every fuel up.
DEF issues can be reduced by refilling the tank at the halfway mark.
The "ducted injection" and injecting air with the fuel. May eliminate the band aid devices.