I did a "Nuzlocke" of Thousand Year Door
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Thousand Year Door has a wide variety of attacks that Mario can use, but unfortunately they were not all created equal. Most experienced players of the game tend to favor a select few strong ones. So for this challenge, I decided to try and see if I could beat Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door while only using each attack, item, and special move a single time. This way I'd have to use pretty much everything the game had to offer!
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"The green fuzzies were so annoying they made me open a second youtube channel"
LMAO
Lol
True to remembering the annoying fight 😂
I was gonna like but then I saw the 666 like count
I would love to see the Pit of 100 Trials with this, even if you have to "reset" and be able to use all your used moves again one more time! Would be an exciting video!!
Watching this while cooking dinner, this better be good!
I wonder if Pit of 100 Trials Nuzlocke would be similarly interesting...
You can just pay Gus
one question i now have for this game is what is the most damage you can do in a single turn so like max bp useage on a mutibonk attack with a powerlift ect because i decided to see how much you did with the final stampeed and its an impressive 259 to the shadow queen
It's like playing sticker star
Fine I’ll watch this instead of doing my laundry
Real
Same
Who needs laundry if there's a bringle's challenge
Bro was here 1 hr early
Learn to do both!
Grubba: “Well boy howdy, Bringle! Fixin’ fer a playthrough of TTYD, huh? Now listen, in this playthrough, I want you to use one move once. It’s one and done, son! It gets dang borin’ fer the audience if you’re just usin’ the same move over and over. Now get out there and give that audience a grandstandin’!”
I feel like the partners would realize who was the real Mario during the Doopliss fight because he was superguarding all their attacks.
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What to call a Challenge Run where you can only use each move once even normal moves? Easy, call it a Sticker Star Challenge 😂
He took your advice, lol
I absolutely loved that voice in my head that screamed "NOOOOOOOOOO!!! You shouldn't use Bomb Squad now. You should save it for the Shadow Queen!"
SAAAAAME I was like "wait, now? Not at the end?"
I would argue every Individual kind of first strike count as their own moves. With the different hammers and jumps, and Each partner move, that would give you some good hits.
I’d argue the same, especially since only Koops and Bobbery can trigger First Strikes, IIRC. Goombella tattles, Flurry’s blow can’t trigger fights, Yoshi goes fast, Vivian hides, and Mowz detects Star Pieces and chests(?) if I recall right.
So Jump, Hammer, Bomb, and Shell First Strikes I could see being added as a reasonable coverage for First Strike options. It incentivizes planning with them too to ensure you’re using the jump/hammer at the optimal time with the optimal version.
yeah but didn't he skip optional fights so he'd have no way to use first strikes
edit: nvm. i didn't know about the riddle tower
i see the argument but i don't really agree. all four first strike attacks are JUST the same moves that are used in battle; jump, hammer, koops' base attack, and bobbery's base attack. idk if it's the same in the original version but even the jump and hammer commands use the same action commands first strike or not, so they really are the exact same move
@@RolyatSille it is possible to First Strike with Yoshi while riding him, but only when falling on an enemy from above, since he can't jump high. It's super situational and only happend to me once on accident and probably wouldn't help in this run anyway
@@RolyatSille If you're counting Jump and Hammer, you could probably count Spin Jump and Hammer Spin as well, if not even moreso given that while they share their prompts with their menu equivalents, they do not share the FP cost (since obviously you can't use FP while in the overworld, and it's not drained upon you starting the fight with those moves), making them essentially "different" moves.
Smallant made a great point in one of his SMO challenge videos that you could come up with a really clever name for a challenge, but if it's not obvious from an outside perspective what you're doing, it's not prone to pique their interest. Calling it a Nuzlocke here is pretty good, since that term alone will grab a lot of people's attention. But you very well could have just gone with "Thousand Year Door but I can only use each move once"
Either way, the thumbnail was really good at conveying the challenge and does a lot of heavy lifting.
I disagree. Nuzlocke was a bad title for this. I wasn't interested in this video at all until I saw the title someone gave this with the extension DeArrow, "Beating Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door while only using each move once." Nuzlocke makes it sound like if a partner is KO'd, they can't be used in battle anymore, which doesn't sound interesting. "Thousand Year Door but I can only use each move once" would convey what this is about far better.
@@PsiPaula4nah, the thumbnail makes it immediately super obvious what it’s actually referring to. Like you said, the other challenge would be super lame, so it doesn’t take a lot to think what it actually means
I don’t disagree that a simpler title would also work, but I don’t think it does anything to actually put people paying attention off of the video
@@Barely_Edited Idk I looked at the title for a second and then my eyes just moved on because what it made it sound like didn't interest me. Until, again, some days later when it appeared again and it was given a more accurate DeArrow title. I can't be the only one who was turned off by the title. Frankly we shouldn't have to rely solely on a thumbnail to understand what a video's about. Fact of the matter is "Nuzlocke" says nothing about this video. It's like calling a tomato a carrot.
@@PsiPaula4I knew exactly what he meant by the title, because I know what a Nuzlocke is from Pokemon challenge runs. And if I didn’t, the thumbnail gives it away.
You’re the one at fault for ignoring the thumbnail if you were so thrown off by a fitting term in the title…
@@JamesP7 But it's not fitting at all. As a Pokemon fan I know what a Nuzlocke is and this isn't even close to what a Nuzlocke is. What comes to mind with one is Pokemon are dead if they are KO'd. Therefore, it sounds like when partners are KO'd, they're dead. My point is titles should be matter of fact. Would it have been a crime if the title for this was "TTYD But I can only use each move once"? Give me a good reason why we should require a thumbnail to get what a video's about. You should be trying your best to reel viewers in. Title wasn't interesting at all, so my eyes kept going down the list for something else.
I legit said “Maybe he can call it a movelock?” Only for him to immediately say it like 3 seconds later
Thanks bringel
I was mowing the lawn while I listened to this and let me tell you, when you finally beat those stupid fuzzies it gave me the strength to get over a large bump in the ground
For the fuzzy glitz pit fight it’s almost certainly more beneficial to keep the black and pink fuzzies alive. That way it’s only two 50/50 chances instead of four
The flower fuzzy would absorb FP and use the lightning attack and I’m pretty sure that lightning attack is un superguardable lik Marilyn’s lightning. If I’m wrong though that’s not a bad idea
EDIT: I’m an idiot you can just normal guard lmao
@@seqka711 just regular block the flower fuzzy, doesn’t it only steal one fp?
@@seqka711 The Flower Fuzzy lightning attack is superguardable LOL
@@Kappy0 sweet, good to know.
5:04 that “bah” made me very happy 😂
How the f*ck did you get to watch this early?
@@aramis4347 He is a paid member so He can watch it earlier ig
Bah bah
@@aramis4347 He didn't watch it early, he just commented early. :3
I literally switched from normal subscribed to all videos after laughing at that gag. Really was the difference maker that proved to me "yep, I definitely don't want to miss a single one of this guy's videos. Well done Bringle/Brongle!
The fuzz are actually a menace, they could take over the entire mario universe with how they can infinitely generate more of themselves and constantly heal by dealing damage
This reminded me of sticker star with how each of your attacks are basically consumable... and how there's no incentive to fight normal enemies 😭 difference is this is still based and sticker star still sucks lmfao, good video bringle man !!!
After not picking up a paper mario since Thousand year door... Sticker star jaded me from ever playing a modern mario title again. Super star saga is gone, TTYD is gone, shit's lightning in a bottle compared to the sludge they pop out now.
@@NeoicecreamanI mean I wouldn't say TTYD is gone lol
@@Charnutboy shitting it out on the switch isn't the same as giving us a proper, decent sequel.
@@Neoicecreaman I mean say what you want about the remake but TTYD is by definition not gone in the modern era anymore
@@Charnutboy You're a moron
41:20 How about this: each first strike can count as it’s own attack. The four you can pull off are Mario’s jump and hammer, Koops’s shell toss, and Bobbery’s bomb. And there are four bones in the riddle tower, so with enough power buffing badges equipped, it works out, eh?
Bringle you are such a welcome addition to the community. Thank you for adding your personality to these classic Nintendo games. Hope to see your channel thrive and you branching out to similar games in the franchise 🤟😎
for the 4 bones in the riddle tower I think you could also grind high enough levels for the first attack badge to kill the enemies without getting into combat, as you're definitely not attacking them if u never exit the overworld.
I never actually tested whether that works with the first attack badge but I'm pretty sure I tried it with the bump attack badge at some point and remember it working on them.
Edit: this was addressed in the ending segment
Ah yes another fantastic video for the Bringle enthusiasts
Inb4 Aaran mentions it: The Armored Harriers can be skipped with a few glitches.
Fun fact about showstopper, in Italian its translated to Sentenza which means Judgement, so its called judgement which i think is cooler than showstopper.
"I don't know if it is impossible or not."
Skill issue. just never miss a single super guard and you will win.
This isn’t a Dark souls game last time I checked
Please never stop making videos. I could watch you play TTYD for the next 40 years.
I concur
"Detective and Riverside station BS"
You kidding? That's the best part about Chapter 6!
Call them stickers, because one you use em you lose em.
How about a "One attack per fight" challenge? Essentially, you use one attack for the ENTIRE fight.
So if Yoshi uses Gulp and that's your first offensive attack, then Mario can't attck at all, and Yoshi can only continue using Gulp attack
Finally, challenge-legal iron clefts
Allowing a condition where you're allowed to use normal hammer and jump once per chapter could also make this "movelock" challenge more forgiving. Call it an added refresh function of each Crystal Star maybe.
So basically Sticker Star/Color Splash.
You Should do a minimum star points run where the goal is well minimum star points. I believe fat guy did this a while ago but I bet you can get the score below what he set.
Bringle doesn't like to do glitches so he probably won't get lower than Fatguy, because fatguy used glitches.
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 it’d still be cool to see a min star points no glitches
33:19 “I did a little mining off camera”
I feel the most accurate way to do a nuzlocke would be if you ever miss a guard command the last move selected is lost, to replace fainting
Note that Gale Force has an extra factor in determining its chance, that being the level difference between you and the enemy. If it's higher, it becomes harder, and vice versa. As a result, you had, at most, a 72% chance for each Magikoopa (assuming you were level 9 based on the stage), and it was likely was lower than that. This aspect is most noticeable for the Amayzee Dayzee (who has a base chance of 60% but is level 100, so you need to be level 41 to have any chance at all) and the Atomic Boo (who has a base chance of 10 and is level 52), though it's probably always going to be an issue in any of your challenge runs, and makes a Gale Force strategy in the last part of the pit a lot worse than it might look, as almost all enemies in the last ten floors have pretty high base Gale Force chances (usually 75-80%) but their levels are around 35. Note that Bob-Ulks only have a 10% chance but they're already the easiest enemy there anyway, and Amayzee Dayzees are of course basically impossible.
This is also why some enemies have a higher than 100% base Gale Force chance; this assures that some of the weakest enemies will always be pushed away with it, if you are so inclined to use it on them for some reason.
This looks fun! I might try a version of this myself where I can only use each move once per chapter to make it more forgiving and ban superguards. Fantastic video as always 🤩
If you ban superguards, have fun being softlocked in the first 2 minutes of the prologue
@@BoltTheEmolga maybe I’ll allow a single superguard per chapter haha
Great Sticker Star run!
As a shiny hunter and D&D player 1/400 is pretty good odds
This is one of the best TTYD videos in all of youtube! The gameplay was extremely interesting. I've never seen so much move variety in an RPG playthrough. The ruleset didn't feel arbitrary at all. In fact, I wish there was a mod that was a little easier version of this, where different moves have a different number of lifetime uses. Only thing this video was missing was maybe some more updates throughout about how many moves you have left.
The best part was seeing Zess T's items get used. Would be funny to play through the game using only food or something lol.
Anyways, I know you probably won't feel like trying this MoveLocke challenge again for a while because some fights are a big pain, but I would be very interested in an eventual attempt #2 or a Pit of 100 Trials with this.
Okay, I've been watching RUclips videos all day. I should now do the responsible adult thing of going to the pharmacy before they close, so I can pick up my medication.
*Bringles uploaded 13 minutes ago*
Or...
another bringle banger has hit the youtube notifications
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In the fuzzies fight in the pit you should have normal guarded the normal and flower fuzzie for a bigger chance of killing the green one
If it’s a stupid way to play the game I’ll enjoy it. Nah, it ain’t stupid if you enjoy it.
Oh, so we're playing Sticker Star now?
Late to the video, but I think Koops' first strike should count as a unique attack. Unlike the other first strike options, it doesn't share an action command similarity with anything (most notably its biggest contemporary, Shell Toss). So I think it's valid to use once throughout the challenge, even before or after using Shell Toss.
Disposable attacks made sticker star and color splash unplayable garbage, but TTYD is such a masterpiece that it actually works here.
Amazing video as usual! Also, wanna shoutout the use of Octopath Traveler II and Triangle Strategy OSTs in your videos!
You turned TTYD into sticker star
That doesn’t sound like a bad thing to me
i cant believe i found this channel randomly not even 3 months ago and your upload rate is insane and i just love watching this stuff :D
I'd love to see this tassed
This is interesting
We are gonna see practically every single form of attack in the game and probably learn smth new about the game
It's a crime this vid has 54k views and bringle only has 24k subs
Amazing video. I'm sure you've already thought of this but I think one way to optimize is to only use items that hit multiple targets when there are at least 3 or more guys
I am begging, hands and knees, for you stream these challenge runs
I personally think this would have been a lot more interesting had you kept super guards off and instead allowed like three uses of each ability. Still not a bad concept, but super gaurds did still keep coming up like every other fight.
I think it would have been valid mental gymnastics if you made a second save and went through it normally, except in fights you could shave moves off of, and then excecute those fights with less moves, and then have those spare moves now apply to the original file
Honestly “movelocke” is not a bad name. This ruleset could be cool for other things like Pokémon too.
Maybe not like only one use of a move ever, but maybe like you get to use the move as many times as you’d like in a fight but then after that fight you can never use it again
I used to think supergaurds just deletes all challenge like an idiot, but seeing him have to chip away at the ever duplicating self healing green fuzzy for so long that he reaches 100 exp is funny and sad. I see now super gaurds place and I pity you for having to go through that
The character growth here is a beautiful story
so you played sticker star on purpose
He tricked everyone here into watching Paper Mario Sticker Star.
So basically Paper Mario: Sticker Star?
Isn't this basically Sticker Stars Combat System?
It would have been cool to see this video with an "inventory" edited in. Or a little diagram showing what moves had been collected but not yet used.
oh no, TTYD but it's Sticker Star
*Are you gonna do a normal playthrough of the TTYD remake in May?*
Probably not
Probably yeah
Thanks -Brongle- Bringle, I love all the super guard -edits- counts you made. Best part of the video tbh 😂
"oh but when modern paper mario limits your moves, everyone hates it, uh-huh sure" (Kidding, I'm kidding.)
Real talk: I think between Koops, Bobbery, jumping, and hammering, field attacks could add +4 to the repertoire of unique moves.
It‘s so interesting what cool strategies you can discover. I watched a lot of your videos in the last week and I‘m really impressed of your work. I like the solutions you always find.
why do you save state the slots when you could slow down the game instead
Slowing the game down still ends up being slower because you either have to grab the rewards in slowmo, or stop and click through Dolphin to set the game back to normal speed and then change it back after. Not to mention if you miss the slot, its slower to get through everything unless you menu through Dolphin once again.
@@BringlesCanisn't there a hotkey for that?
That “BAH” was both nostalgic and hilarious.
My modification to this would be to allow each character's basic move to be used infinitely to lessen the requirement for superguards. So Mario's basic jump is usable infinitely, for example, but Power Bounce isn't
I want to see you do a pit run of this, where all move uses are reset, so you are going in fresh. I wonder if that is possible?
So we’re playing Sticker Star?
Damn I thought this would just be "partner dies, they dead :("
Tbh that wouldn't be much of a challenge, in my playthrough (of the remake mind you, but i don't think it's important) I only had partners die during the shadow queen fight, and that's with my filthy casual skill
what the video is supposed to be: a weapon/item nuzlocke
what it actually is: superguard training + one-time-use items and weapons
Wouldnt zap tap be huge in this?
Ik you get it from the pit but like
Being not a speedrunner, I think I would have done a nuzlocke as I can use it until I mess up the action command, but then probably place some restrictions on what counted as an attack.
Against the Fuzz, couldn't you keep the normal and flower fuzzy at 1HP, just guard them and then deal with only 3 green fuzzies instead of 5? since the normal and flower one did really pose that big of a thread, minimizing the chances of the green one duplicating
But I guess it's better content to deal with 5 green fuzzies 👀
It could be fun to come back to this one and try to do it fully legit with more planning
so uh. you planning on pit of 100 trials nuzlocke, or
(i’m kidding)
(unless?)
Finishing off Grubba with a Tattle was so accidentally rad.
Hey Bringle! Just some feedback, I'd love it if you included the names of the music you used in this video in the description! They're such a banger :)
Great video as always btw! This was such a joy to watch :D
Since Jabi are rivals to Puni, which are clearly pronounced "Puny" I always pronounced it as "Jab-y"
"Jab-Eye" still makes sense I suppose, they could definitely jab you in the eye.
I do really love your videos man, and I appreciate this one all the same!
I gott say though, and nothing bad meant by it (especially since you went through the trouble of trying to gauge what'd be the best way to implement it):
I think the reliance on super-guarding just isn't fun from a viewing stand-point. It should definitely have been included as "a move", in the rule-set.
However; and maybe this is something you could do a follow-up video on if you'd like; I think if the rules had been that "You can only use any one move IN ONE BATTLE" (rather than 'once in the game'), maybe it would have been more feasible to do, without super-guarding? It would also introduce more strategy, in terms of: "In what singular battle, is super-guarding the most valuable?".
For your sake, please dont do the pit, or if you do, reset your movelist so that you have access to everything xD
For the fuzzy fight, you could have left the normal (and flower fuzzy?) alive by normal defending their attacks. There would be less enemy slots this way. Take them out last
Awesome Idea for a challenge run! It was really fun to see what you would do next as I thought this would be impossible.
Definitely the best Mario content creator out there, will never get tired of these vids and they got me to pre-order the TYD remake, can't wait to try it myself
Correction, the "Nuzlocke Chalenge" originates from a fan comic named "Pokemon Ruby Hard Mode", but for whatever reason, a person decided to turn that comic's "rules" into a challenge run of Pokemon games in general. Since then, it's become a well-known and common method of self-imposed rules in Pokemon games to make them harder. And there's been variants of the Nuzlocke challenge with additional rules. Soul Link being one of them, which has self-imposed "life-link" rules between two players' Pokemon doing the same challenge together. By now, people have also adapted the Nuzlocke challenge idea into non-Pokemon series games. Alpharad with his "Lightlocke" run from awhile back for example, where he played Super Smash Bros Ultimate's "World of Light" adventure mode, but with a Nuzlocke ruleset
We got nuzlocke paper Mario before gta VI
44:44 Hurray, Cheating!
You used ice storm twice right? Once against bro trio in the glitz pit and the a second time against the embers in chapter 5.
He used an ice storm in the pit but then realized it wouldn’t work as well as earthquake. So he didn’t use it twice he reset the battle and used earthquake
what [totally legimate gamecube] do you use
Most people use dolphin if that's what you're asking (you didn't hear that from me, you read it)
@@Bupboy i totally didn't try that to find I wouldn't work unlike none of the other emulators I tried
Love how you're trying to sugarcoat how bad some of these moves are by calling them underwhelming😂
He should of had done it once every battle
Another great challenge! I'm always impressed how often you can get these completed. You help keep my excitement up for the remake :>
i hope they buff mouse for the remake
This is a crazy concept! Stoked to see how you play this out!
the supreme calamitas music during the Fuzz battle is so fun
also, i am sorry for your battle against them