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“This Is The Equivalent Of A Kit Car Made In The Shed” Time Running Out To Save Missing Titanic Sub
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2023
- Oxygen on the missing Titanic submersible is expected to run out in hours, with rescue efforts to find the five people onboard in full force overnight.
The vessel, named Titan, lost communication with tour operators on Sunday while about 435 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland, during a voyage to the Titanic shipwreck off the coast of Canada.
TalkTV’s Julia Hartley-Brewer is joined by former Royal Navy commander Dr Chris Parry who tells her “it’s over” for the crew on the missing Titanic sub.
“The sea is always out to get you. Everything has to go right every time. In this sector, people are taking chances with people’s lives."
“This is the equivalent of a kit car made in the shed at the end of the garden.”
#talktv #talkradio #submarine #titanic #titanicsub #sub
Does there need to be greater regulation of extreme tourism?
No. People take their own risks. We need to regulate our own resources for these accidents. No one is recovering bodies off of MT Everest.
No, no nanny state…however , the risk and implications are on the “explorer” not on rescue teams if or when it goes wrong
Nope. Their choice but I do think they should be signing something confirming they will cover rescue costs. Might give the m pause for thought.
the Opposite -
best way to get rid of Idiots
Self Titanic
No....Government regulates more than enough....people should be allowed to make mature decisions.
This is quite simply the most realistic observation I’ve heard about this terrible event. Absolute common sense from a gentleman who clearly knows precisely what he is talking about.
Experience is a great thing and this chap seems to have it in spades. As he said at the depth they were at literally everything has to go right and if it doesn't your dead.
Correct.!!!!!
Absolute bullcrap, can any multibillion dollar sub reach the depths this so called car made in a shed reach? If you think there's something dodgy not going on then I feel sorry for you
And to top it off, the reporter is quite above average too.
@@ghsense2626that don’t mean their were anything certified about its ability except by what they say
This man was spot on from day one. This is one of the only guys who kept it real from the moment this happen. I respect him being honest when all others were just trying to say what people wanted to hear.
💯. We live in a generation where you can't say the truth anymore because people don't like it. Give us nice and encouraging words.
it's hard to find people who speak their mind .. most are just sugar-coating things and namnamming
Absolutely 💯 I appreciate the honesty
Best interview yet. Keeping it real. We have lost the ability to speak openly and honestly. The true god is the god of physics and energy. Arrogance and A billion dollars in a bank account does not change this fat.
Yep, that's how you think and speak when not woke.
Respect to this man for not sugar coating what happened. Sometimes it's not about what we want to hear, just logic and truth.
Running out of oxygen in an "iron coffin" 12,500 feet below the surface is the worst ever imaginable way to go. The risk was unjustifiably big. Simply they signed their lives away.
Not to mention if there wasn’t a breach but just a power outage, they would have been sitting in pitch black darkness at the bottom of the ocean for 4 days
Look on the bright side: they probably died in milliseconds Sunday afternoon, when the porthole imploded, the hatch seal failed or the hull cracked.
I'd of been happy to be strangled .
This man is honest.
Far better than listening to the Yanks.
not onlyishe honest, he knows what´s going on. He knows the limititation of the tech and he knows that they are looking for bodys, not for living persons.
This women talks to much. Less of her. More of him.
@@ontherunjg that’s women for ya, mate
Jokes aside, I think she’s just fine. She’s giving him time to speak & asks good follow-up questions to keep it engaged.
Stockton Rush should have asked Parry's opinion on the sub's design before they even built the thing. But he's an old White man, so they didn't bother.
Probably the most realistic and honest person interviewed so far
Yes, they imploded and sink to titanic, became one with them, but of course the media always love to be positive
Agreed and wouldn’t it have been good to hear more from him rather than JH-B? I always thought that the idea of interviewing an expert was to get their views. JH-B seemed to provide three-quarters of the input on this one. Does she always do that?
Couldn’t agree more. Everyone else is acting like it will be found in no time. I’d prefer a realistic view.
That last sentence, “people need to get a grip of it because it’s criminal frankly.” Bang on 100%
Clearly this man knows what he is talking about. The Titanic holds a magical spell for most of us, I just prefer to be captured from the safety of my TV.
I cannot begin to imagine their predicament. I really hope these people are found and saved..
Nothing safe about the tv.
The tv is a propaganda machine
The idiot box. Turns humans into idiots. Clearly the interviewer watches lots of tv. My tv was put away years ago.
Word is, they never know what hit them.
@honeybuzzard2843 I wouldn't think so, it would be a small mercy for them..
'ITS OVER' The man is just being honest.
It is over.
Sadly yes it is.
RIP 🙏
SUCH A SHAME.
If was never not over lol. Only retards thought those people were going to get saved lol. Not enough Thoughts & Prayers lmfao 😂
Facts!
@@bethlehemeisenhour5807it was their choice.
The guy being interviewed is keeping it real. He knows the score. Mad respect for not dancing around the fact that these men are fucking DEAD.
I'm sorry for these men and their families but the titanic is a grave site not a sight seeing tour let her and the people who died with her rest in peace
Supposedly, this thing has 8 different ways to release ballast to return to the surface, including sandbags on some sort of rapidly desolving hooks. Obviously, there were terrible engineering decisions in other areas, but they did seem to do some thinking on what needs to happen to make sure it gets back to the surface if it is in tact. The fact that it apparently didn't make it back to the surface suggests that it imploded.
Face it, this was some guy who thought he knew better than people who have been in the industry all their lives. He built this submersible on the cheap with no idea if it would even work, it was barely tested after having multiple failures during testing and only ever going to these depths twice before. He ignored multiple warnings about safety issues so I think he has ultimately paid for his hubris with his life and the lives of 4 others.
The classic mad scientist super villain.
@@kristinstrickland1038the incredible Mr limpet
I wouldn't last 8 seconds in this thing. My claustrophobia would hit the roof.
And the person who made this should've listened to the experts and not to think they knew it all.
Boeing made the sub
Much respect for Chris Parry, and his sincere way of communicating using intelligence, logic and sensibility.
I have watched this man on many issues. He is solid.
Been watching these videos all day long and this guy is the most reasonable,honest guest I've seen all day
Completely agree.
Juan Marichal was one of my favorite players - the fancy dealing right hander second to none.
the other experts where being diplomatic and did not want to say that the chances of them being found alive was next to 0
Trump was too but people hate him for the cold hard truth.
Go Giants!
This guy is a No BS type of guy. Most realistic reporting, get real people this is not a rescue mission but a recovery mission. Its OVER!
Exactly.
It was over on their decent he suggested.
So glad this interview popped up in my recommendeds - completely agree with your comments.
Chris Parry is the only guy talking total sense on this.
Great interview.
Other interviews elsewhere are talking b.s
This officer is the most rational and sensible speaker on the subject I have heard so far.
Ive been watching this 3 days on every channel and this man is the realist out them all !! Spot on with everything!!!!! RIP TO THEM ALL 🙏
I am still hoping it was an implosion rather than this excruciating death
He obviously doesn't have a boss telling him what to say unlike the US coast guard.
@@amandamcphee2469 yeah hope is was really quick Amanda!!! LOVE FROM SCOTLAND 🏴
@@richjames7948 true rich its all to give the family's false hope 🙏 RIP to them 🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
@@amandamcphee2469yup, I've said that from the start. They'd be drinking their own urine by now if they're still alive which is unlikely.
Finally, someone with a head on their shoulders that’s armed with the knowledge to understand the situation. It’s truly devastating to admit, but they’re gone. I’m just trying to convince myself that it was a hull breach at depth, and that they were all gone before they realized they were in trouble. The idea that they were down there slowly suffocating and trying to be calm when they can’t help but fail to avoid the fact that the likelihood of their survival is nonexistent. This story is so horrifying.
Totally agree with you 👍
my thoughts exactly, could you imagine the horror.
It's the best news story. Everybody loves the boy trapped in the well that gets rescued after 8 days.
@@sm7Vxif its taken you this long to realise your attitude is shite, no comment. 🙄 wake up to yourself.
That's exactly what I thought...the best case scenario at this point was an implosion before they realised there was even a problem
Dr Parry has been the voice of sensibility throughout this tragedy.
I like this fella! He speaks plainly and no beating around the bush - can always respect someone who's straightforward and honest.
The CEO's stubborn arrogance for safety ultimately will cost em their lives. What a shame.😢
It's called a know it all,just because you can make money, cut corners and kill people it's ok.We can all see the end result of that The CEO would just fire people who said this thing was unsafe .Hey enjoy your watery grave.
Agreed. Unfortunately. 😢
Also he was a WOKE racist.
Is his wife happy tho
And he doesn't like employing white men!!! Extraordinary.
This gentleman has been honest about the situation. He clearly has a lot of experience and knowledge. It’s such a very disturbing situation for the world to watch. Extremely painful for all families. I hope they can find the pod to give the family closure 🙏🏼 🕊️
My heart goes out for the boy,how helpless a father would be watching his son in this dreadful situation…it’s so tragic😢
He was grown
This is a tragic situation but I think it's very good example of an activity that humans should not be doing. The Titanic is two and a half miles down. This is not a tourist destination. Those five people wanted bragging rights that they saw the Titanic the rest of their life. Ironically if they did get to see it that's the last thing that they're ever going to see. Some things just be left alone and this is definitely one of them
The odds of them EVER finding the sub are astronomically small but to think they’re going to find it in the next couple hours is insane.
I hear you. It is someone’s life though regardless of circumstance better to try and fail. Then just give up.
They haven't even looked where they were going. Maybe they are stuck and are exactly where they were supposed to be. No one has looked there. Totally crazy right? But what is likely is that something happened and they died immediately and you will never find the remains of anything.
@@magnusenamd currents carried them away
@@kaycampbell364 Yes, but not if they are stuck. They have lost radio contact many times and therefore they wait 8 hours to report them missing. So they may have lost radio contact and gone around and got stuck in something and then they are left near titanic. Not looking there first to find them very early is the only chance. Instead, they looked far away and not close to Titanic. The world is full of idiots. An airplane has a lot of safety if one thing breaks, you usually have at least two other things that can take over. They have nothing here. This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
astronomically small is, coincidentally, the size of that plastic sub now
honestly, TalkTV has had the most realistic coverage of this situation
it usually does
They have the most realistic coverage of ANY story
finally a guy who is giving it to you straight those guys are long gone
THANK YOU for stating the real issues as you both did.
The most common sense & honesty from anyone who has spoken about the titan...Well said sir 😉👍 us brits are blunt but honest, best way to be 👏 X
These two speak logically and realistically about the situation.
well, one does...have a guess who.
The one who didn’t even get to do much talking yet has all the experience 🤦🏽♂️
She’s unbelievably annoying. Shut up and let the man talk!!
😂😂😂
She is a journalist and HAS to present didfferent views and ask questions that will be childish to most. Wishing death upon her is the lowest of the low.
That's an insult to kit cars, many of which are top notch performers.
I swear every interview people say “Most realistic and honest interview so far” lol
Finally, someone that actually sounds like they have knowledge on the subject.
They weren't on a mission for the betterment of mankind, they were on a jolly ghoulfest, putting others at risk in trying to rescue them.
Rich, bored and stupid.
That aside, my heart breaks for them all the same, especially the 19 yr old boy who's mother must be devastated.
Not even ghouls down there, just rusted, decaying metal that you can see on youtube.
I don't know if this Julia lady is famous in the UK but to me it highlights how much more informed and articulate British news anchors are as compared to ours here in the USA. Night and day.
A kit car made in a shed, is a very accurate description of this sub indeed, I find it incredible that intelligent people would go down in such an amateurish vessel, what did they expect ?
What makes you think they're intelligent? The real intelligent one was the guy who looked at the submarine and asked for his money back.
100% . People with to much money . 😂
Having money doesn't mean you're intelligent. It just means you're rich.
It's been down to titanic many times successful, something that can go down 2 and half miles is hardly something made in a shed
A kit car made in a shed without a kit. More of a DIY car.
Thank you Sir for your honesty...people are refusing to accept the outcome. While grim, the fact is these people have perished!
Please tell the reporter to QUIT interrupting the Commander! We don’t want to listen to her rambling, we want to hear from the expert!!
This is such a sad sad tragedy but this man is right and is being realistic about the situation, its been missing in the atlantic for almost 5 days on limited water and oxygen supply. He is right its over and the best we can hope for is a recovery mission so the families can lay their loved ones to rest
This gentleman is bang on. This whole scenario is unbelievable!!!
What a brilliant interview. In these times of BS rife in the media, this is a breath of fresh air. I'm very sad about the circumstances, tragic, but we deserve unsensationalized reporting of this caliber.
it was not BS they just did not want to come out and say that the men are all deceased, they have to think about there family's
that was a painful pun 😓
@@slinkiegirl2001 I didn't say it was BS 🤷♀.
@@Lizzyjaeger Oh. I got you. Not a good choice of words. Unintentional 😢, sorry.
Royal Marine telling it like it is, we need more ppl like him commenting on everything newsworthy nowadays instead of the "wishing in one hand and crapping in the other to see which one gets filled first" type of journalism.
This lady has the right job... She can be both interviewer and guest, they can save a lot of money....
I wish she would let him talk more!
Right?? This lady talks more than the guest! Even her questions go on and on before she gets to the point.
She gets right on my nerves.
Why does he need more space to speak? "They're dead" sums up his entire thoughts and I don't think many people care about the scentific data involved of why it blew up.
@@Paulstrickland01 you don't think. Full stop.
@@eat_a_dick_trudeau You just like complaining :/
@@theAntiCauliflower its better than sucking cxck. Something I'm sure you like to do, but fall short of excelling at.
This man is the first person to say exactly what I’ve been thinking this entire time. GO DOWN TO THE TITANIC. That’s where they were headed so that’s the logical place to start. They can still send some resources to locate the banging, but why isn’t a robot or whatever being sent down to the Titanic wreckage first and foremost? I’ve been baffled this entire time but thought maybe I had it wrong since I don’t know anything about ocean rescue. Imagine how horrible if the next submersible to visit the Titanic also finds the Titan down there entangled in the wreckage. They were there the whole time and no one came down for them. Terrifying and infuriating.
It is so deep there are few vessels that can go that deep - apparently only 11 in the world - and by what I gather, none of them are local to that region. So it all takes time to get there.
Omg same! I mean, logically, if the sub didn't implode, it's most likely somewhere around the Titanic right? But, like you, I know nothing about ocean currents and all that so 🤷♀️ I hope that when they move to the Recovery phase and have the right underwater equipment they will look there first.
No one CAN go down to them. If they got entangled, there was no way to get them out.
This guy gets it, this tragedy is totally a fault to this company.
God bless the many thousands of children who die needlessly due to waiting for medical treatment which they're told isnt there, due to a shortage of costs. BUT the world finds whatever costs are needed & comes together to find 5 individuals that knew the risks involved.
It's a sad sad unjust world we live in.
we live in a world of increased inequality but facing existential crises. A world of the super rich, the top 1% can do what they want and the state - and therefore the taxpayer - can pick up the pieces. Looking at the back stories of some of the tourists who took this trip is it's own story. Very few of them were non wealthy Titanic- obsessives. Hamish Harding was in Washpo bragging about making money out of the pandemic and private jet travel, Oisin Fanning is the CEO of a fossil fuel company. The Pakistani businessman is one of PK's riches men in a nation exploited by the super wealthy, meaning its own citizens take to the high seas in boats to migrate for a better life.
"... it's criminal frankly.." This statement really sums it up!
Having lots and lots of money doesn't go along with an equal measure of common sense, does it?
'We can afford it so let's do it' seems to be the operative priciple here.
So many lives wasted senselessly. 😢
I'd be surprised if they ever found it at all
I agree. This gentleman has been level-headed since day one. He has vast experience with the sea. Slim to no chance of rescue. I would love to spend time with him and pick his brains. I'm wondering if the bang that was heard, was the sub free falling then landing on the Titanic? Finally, why on earth was there no EPIRB fitted? For me, that's downright irresponsible.
I really appreciate the honestly that was laid out in this video.
Sensible interview. What an absolutely splendid intelligent honest man.
For the two words he managed to get in when she finally shut her beak.
@@eat_a_dick_trudeau👍
@@eat_a_dick_trudeauno kidding, the interview should be focused on him not her. Know when to shut it.
@@eat_a_dick_trudeau Too right
@@eat_a_dick_trudeau 😂
This gentleman really gave a sensible explanation.
The only realistic interview so far. Compliments, thumbs up.
Man do I love his honest no nonsense commentary.
A man that has commanded a military submarine has a very focused mind. He knows what he is talking about. The US Navy suggested that an inplosion was heard. Given that they detected the same type of event happen over two thousand miles away some years ago. I think that's what sadly happened.
Crumpled in due to the pressure is my guess.
@eedd sdsdTypo meaning implosion. It’s like an explosion but in reverse.
@@eeddsdsd977 Slang. Opposite of explosion. It crushed.
@@johnblunt1834 it's not slang if it's spelled correctly.
@@chickenmadness1732 My mistake. I should have checked the spelling. A very sad time for the relatives though.
Jeez lady, let the guy get a word in....
He's speaking the truth! This was always a impossible task! They signed the waiver. Very sad. The delays.
Well --- Now the next comany can advertise the Titanic and the Titan... Excellent video with real info. Thanks Chris thats what most of us think.
The Company and the crew on board the mother ship need to be held accountable. There was no contingency. No emergency on standby. They waited 9hrs before sending a distress call. Absolutely disgraceful and absurd. I know they signed waivers but to recklessly sell this extreme expedition commercially to the public is beyond moronic. Now we have 5 souls lost all because of the greed of a company trying to push innovation past it's limits.
Yup, after the first missed contact they should have been making calls. Inexcusable
Here we go again "held accountable". How many times have I heard this cliché?
@patb5266 loss of communication was normal for this operation
These people took the risk voluntarily, though reminiscent of Grenfell...how dare they build and sell homes so high as to be inaccessible by emergency services?
@@carolramsey6287Did you say that during uvalde? Actually, don’t answer that we already know.
Chris Parry, my old Divisional Officer on HMS York, best you can get.
That lilo story was outrageous. I'd have sent back a bill for the rescue operation.
I wish more people were honest and blunt like this bloke 😎😎😎
Would like to hear more of what the expert has to say without interruption.
Why is this woman always texting and emailing while her guests are speaking?? Very distracting and rude.
More importantly, why does she never shut up? She talks more than the guest.
I just subscribed,
Because of this intelligent discussion.
Fabulous coverage.
Thank you for the honesty. American coverage is bs. This is tragic and extremely reckless on the company's part. No one here wants to admit this !! Thanks!!
Love this dude's realism. They say most Brits have a knack for telling it like it is.
Please allow Mr. Parry back on the next show.🙏
No they don’t. Who do you think double speak from 1984 came from.
@@TravelsTTG BS! Yes we do.
Erm, he's English not British. Technically British can be any race or culture that isn't English.
Yes, but this time let him do most of the talking.
@@Paulstrickland01 What? Erm, wrong. You are talking absolute nonsense - utter gibberish!
If he’s English, he’s British. British is English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish.
I can’t even begin to imagine the heartbreak of having one of my sons alongside me in this situation.
I’m sure the father in that submersible must be going through hell with guilt watching his child suffer 😢
I know, so tragic. Why would he even think of bringing his son?
It was incredibly irresponsible to bring along someone so young, whose whole life lay ahead of them. I doubt anyone on board had much time for reflection, however.
Mr. Parry is correct about the sea, it is out to get you. I have great respect and fear of the sea.
Q this man is exactly right and one of the most sensible I've heard so far! They should have started where the vehicle started and unfortunately the case may be that they find this vehicle somewhere within a decent retrospect in miles or what not to the Titanic wreckage and they were focusing on somewhere else the entire time
Why invite him on if you're going to do 75% of the talking?
It did have one terrific safety system, the real-time hull health monitoring (RTM) system consisting of strain gauges and acoustic sensors.
The computer system would be able to give them warning of an imminent structural failure....and give them probably about 1 microseconds worth of warning in the event of an implosion.
Clever stuff!
with training that microsecond could be put to good use
ALL 100% WORTHLESS when your submersible routinely loses contact with the surface. Because that information is going nowhere to anyone who can do anything about it. You may as well carry a gun into battle that you loaded Russian-roulette style.
Not even enough time to say the “uh” part of “uh-oh”.
Fook...I got it right 😪
Perfect observation. True to the point.
Most sensible discussion on this story I’ve heard
This commander is very smart. Not like these other experts. Down to the point and accurate
This is tragic, but utterly unsurprising. They were dead the minute they signed up for it.
They played this lottery to many times if you ask me and this time their numbers were up
96 hours of oxygen in that small tub with 5 people cant believe that
And signed the legal waivers.
"Where do I sign?" said the billionaire CEO.
What a complete cretin.
@@roywatson8133 they probably have oxygen tanks
I just think of the terrifying ordeal these guys had to go through. It's heartbreaking.
I believe it will have been very quick, actually.
Why didn't they think of it before? Presumably they new the risk. Some people really are looking for troubles
Maybe not. A single tiny scratch on the window, a microscopic fatigue crack in the bodywork and it implodes. They may be nothing but fish paste in under a second.
With the track record of this toy, they were nuts to go through with this.
@@eh1702 No scratch on the window was required. The window was rated to dive to 1300 meters. They dove to 4000 meters. What did they think was going to happen? Firing the guy who warned them about this problem back in 2018 didn't solve the problem. Who would've thunk?
With the greatest of respect to him, he's a mature gentleman with a lifetime of experience. That tells me he knows his stuff enough to keep him alive for a long time.
He's a fool.
That woman loves the sound of her voice.
Only person being realistic and sensible.
If you have a guest on your show for their specific expertise shouldn’t they speak for the majority of the time? The host can’t shut up!
Love his strait forward observations..similar to something "made in the back of shed"...lol
After viewing comments from experienced divers, it seems the CEO of the Titan vastly underestimated the risk of his project. He had little input from Nasa or the university in designing the pod. It wasn't ready for prime time at all. Besides absence of certifications, the CEO
didn't have any of the assets needed for rescue. No plans, no way of exiting the pod, no way of securing the pod to be pulled up, no
multiple backup communications means, etc. The CEO simply ignored common sense and went with reckless bravado. Very tragic.
The host needs to let the experts speak!
Yeah far too concerned about getting her own opinions across
Amen.
She did, his response, they're dead, pretty simple and nips all the hemming and hawing in the bud.
@@Paulstrickland01 they're, as in they are. Not, their.
🙄
@@eat_a_dick_trudeau Also when you begin a sentence your "They're" should be capital t and there's also a double space after your fullstop.😂😂 Now you'll start to see why despite your attempt to mug us off like we're some Two bit schmuck I've just smacked your face twice and reminded you to always check yourself before you wreck yourself.
You're fucking dismissed now boy. 👋👋😃
She should talk far less.
One wonders whether she has a producer!
I watched since Monday non stop 24/7. I was hoping to wake up with good news. It’s devastating. 💚💚 💚💚💚
Excellent interview
Lawyers are going to have a field day with this terrible tragedy!
oh yes, the company is finished and all tourism subs will now be heavily regulated
Nope they all signed a waiver, so there's absolutely nothing they can do
@sabref4i290 Even if they aren't sued by some slight chance by the wealthy families involved, their business venture is over.
@@sabref4i290Actually, waivers are not 100% binding. There will be lawsuits. And likely successful.
According to lawyers, the company has a water tight case 💦🫤😐
The amount of resources, that have gone into this entire rescue/recovery - and yet more resources to come - this needs to be charged to the estates of these people. Not for punitive damages, but for a warning to other billionaire hobbyists that want to go up into space, and down to the ocean floor - there is going to be a cost bigger than themselves if they cause this sort of chaos and mayhem.
Normally people have to pay for their own recovery efforts.
💯
Only after SUCCESSFUL recovery as u cant force a dead man pay for his dues and the next of kins are more intrested in grabbing the dead man,s Wealth rather than paying for his pending liabilities😂
This begs a much bigger question. If there are billionaires on board, why would they not have invested a few paltry million pounds in a state of the art submersible instead of putting their lives on the line with this dodgy company?
Absolutely.
Stockton rush most of all.
If they somehow miraculously survive this, which they won’t, dude needs to be financial BURIED
This guy is the only person I've heard, who makes total sense.
I had to look up that “lilo” story. The parents wanted £7.00 to cover the cost of the lilo. The RNLI said they’d pay it, once the parents paid the £7000 cost of the helicopter rescue. Apparently, the RNLI never heard back.
Should let the guest actually talk 🙄
Lol true
Julia, let the guest speak! You're not the expert here. Geez.
I'm glad I'm not the only one wishing she would shut up.
So sad i am in tears for these poor ppl an their families i couldnt imagine goin down waitin for help an help not makin it in time i pray ppl take more time to investigate how safe the sub is this is horrible i cant fathom bein their mom dad child etc an seein ur fam member aint goin home heart breakin