'Why did they wait so long to tap?': Former commander on Titanic submersible | Banfield
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- A Canadian aircraft searching for the missing Titanic submersible detected “underwater noise” on Tuesday from the vicinity of the location where the crew was touring the wreck site. Former submarine commander Capt. Don Walsh weighs in on "Banfield."
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A man who has lived with the odds that the sea brings. Don’t mistake his bluntness for lack of compassion.
A realistic outlook. A realist. Not enough realists about these days.
READ THIS: He KNOWS what happened and ALSO why communication was lost! I know someone in the coast guard who works with sea rescue. I hear there was a gas leak on it. they heard strange noises, like a rumbling, before they submerged and there were even signs of it before they began the descent but the crew "didn't want to say anything" because they are high profile clients. Well basically as they submerged the radio communication picked up on the sound it was a like kind of wet sound like a balloon deflating and they heard everyone inside of the submersible start to panic. So it is believed at this time from NASAR (North Atlantic Search and Rescue) that this was some kind of noxious gas, causing unconsciousness, and that's why the failsafe systems didn't kick in. Another report is that there was someone inside of the cabin freaking out because it is said there was liquid "spewing" all over the cabin and clogging the instrument panels. Apparently it is a really disturbing audio.
Apparently the submarine just descended straight into the hole where the grand staircase was(the leaked camera footage has it) and the whole way down they are playing the glorious Titanic theme music (this is to wow their customers and make it more theatric) but there is also in the background explosive diarrhea farting sounds and frantic screams of panic and disgust. so the submarine is just sealed in the middle of the titanic with all that diarrhea farting and gas trapped in it. The current thought is that one of the people on board was gassy and that's why they smelled it before they submerged, because they were "letting off some steam" or "crop dusting" in order to relieve bowel pressure and ultimately couldn't hold it in so had diarrhea farts on board and basically the whole cabin became filled with liquid excretions causing everyone to lose consciousness.
@@SlumberBear2k😂😂😂. Call off the search people we got a man on the inside over here 😅
The sea is unforgiving
@@SlumberBear2k They say some of the failsafe's don't require a conscious person?
There's so much fake empathy from people on the news who know that a rescue is impossible. I'm grateful this guy actually just said it.
Okay… but anything can happen. There was a man trapped UNDER water for 3 days and he survived because there was an air pocket literally under water. That’s unheard of. He was a Nigerian man and they have the rescue on camera. ANYTHING can happen. But until it is confirmed or we are a week or so out why not keep hope?
@@kkb892Anything good can happen and at the same time anything bad can happen. At this point they most likely are already dead
So true.
I've been saying that from day one. The only solution for them is to resurface. If they haven't done it yet....they never will.
They are milking the hell out of this...and sadly it's working because I can't look away 🫣
He's smart. He's articulate. He's honest. He's straightforward.
He's not giving her the answers she wants, and she is dismissing him.
This is unacceptable and unprofessional.
It’s the media now a days.
She should write storybooks for kids. This is the raw adult world hun.
She also cut him off, absolutely appalling
This news station is total garbage. They're just doing whatever they can for clicks.
News tends to dismiss people who aren't overly emotional.
This man is 92 and a living deep water pioneering legend. Yet he has to sit through the insufferable indignity of being spoken down to by this has been reporter that keeps cutting him off! The disrespect is off the charts.
Amen. Ikr,,,,no respect for the elderly these days.
@@jaden0019 I agree. Banfield should shut up.
She’s just doing her job brother
Lol how dare you challenge strong woman! The old timer had it coming 😂
She starting to sound like cuomo
Geez, let the guy talk! He is an encyclopedia of information and WE WANT TO HEAR HIM!!!
Yeah, but she got a purdy face... 😷
They only have 6mins and she has to curate the topics to discuss
@@neonpop80…BS
She wants to cope and avoid reality.
True, she just want soundbites, not analysis.
I cannot believe how incredibly rude she was, whilst this man knows what he's talking about. He's trying to prepare viewers, this is the reality no matter how sad it actually is. 😢
I agree
She has one job and that’s to feed viewers a line of bullshit that will keep them tuned in. If she lets this guy speak the truth which is the crew died instantly on Monday and there’s zero chance of survival you’ll watch something else. The oxygen clock is the sickest parting it. These people have no principles.
Agreed! And today has come so I wonder what she has to say now...I keep saying we don't have to avoid the truth to feel sympathy or empathy🤦🏽♀
There's nothing wrong with being realistic.
Yeah. This is another MH370, it will never be found but you are gonna see this on the news for another 4 years
I feel the exact same way. Expect the worst considering the situation but be happy with it being the opposite should that be the case! Seems like the perfect case to be pessimistic about, in a way! Especially considering where we are in the rescue efforts. No REAL progress which sucks.
@thazfff Between the lack of water, the temperature down there, the oxygen levels in the sub, the likelihood of them being alive at this point is pretty much zero. Even if they are still alive, it looks like they're on the bottom where it's going to take far longer than they have to even attempt to retrieve the sub and for whatever reason, whatever beacon they have isn't working if they're on the surface.
Everybody wants them to be alive, but the fact of the matter is that the likelihood at this point is more or less zero. There's a very real chance that even if they do hang on that they'll die knowing that their bodies will be recovered and nothing more.
I thought it quite refreshing although unfortunate.
And in a movie😒
This man came off genuine where the lady just rubbed me the wrong way. Don't ask his EXPERT opinion then dismiss him. Unfortunately, he's right what can they do even if they find them in time?!
And what's more: what SHOULD be done? First: as a US taxpayer I see no reason why US military services should be expending time and resources attempting to find and save the backside of a private enterprise. Second: I strongly object to any US service personnel being put into a position where their lives or health is put at risk if a rescue is attempted.
Seem like she want to dismiss him so soooo bad.😂
@@felsenruhbh the military have nothing to do with this. Just a small help is enough,like providing better locating equipment and all.
@@felsenruh Yeah, but also… why risk more lives to save people from their own foolishness? Billionaires don’t care about the rest of us… why should we care about them above rescuers lives?
I don't think he was being cruel in any way, they're probably dead and for some reason some people can't accept that sometimes severe negligence happens and this is how it ends up. Basically everyone is at fault in this situation, the people knew they were being bolted in and had to sign wavers, the people behind this corporation are negligent dickheads.
It's 2:21 AM where I'm at and I'm having trouble how this level of negligence is even possible. As said before the people had to literally sign wavers to go on and those wavers probably said "we are not responsible for your death, but we kind of are".
“I’m not optimistic” finally someone who speaks their damn mind. I’m with him. This is a grim outcome
And he was right!
I wondered the same thing.
This guy is telling it straight as an arrow with no lip service.
He's not being harsh. He's being real.
Nobody was listening until a day and a half ago, The ability to detect these underwater sounds is from a combination of deep sea microphones combined with a liaison flight above head. I'm sure those assets where only delivered to the search effort 48 hours after the initial outage in communication had occurred.
I mean dude, I'd agree totally, But it might be the case that they started making the bangs shortly after they where lost and it's only now that we are capable of hearing them.
@@taintedtango2737 Considering how many edges where cut in the safty of that experemantal.... thing... i wouldn´t be surprised if the "mothership" didn´t had any of that deep sea microphones. But i wouldn´t blame that man for asuming that the ship had some of those at their desposal and for that could have detected that banging noises.
@@Phoenixfede1989 I didn't even consider the possibility of the mothership having onboard hydrophones, I have such low expectations and little faith in the professionalism of OceanGate at this point.
After hearing some of the comments, I couldn't bring myself to single out anyone and their assumptions. You can really see people grasping with the concepts behind deep sea travel for the first time and most of what they've been commenting is extremely devolved from reality.
The pressure of, If I remember correctly, something around the realms of 130 atmospheres is what they are currently submerged within. Suspected to be around the 3000m mark, The weight of the water around them is crushing any autonomous vehicle which has attempted to plummet to these depths in search. The shifting stratospheric planes with currents carrying away any object travelling vertically in unpredictable directions is crazy. The lack of common sense safety measures such as proper vessel colouration in order to retain maximum visibility during this exact kind of situation being completely ignored. The thing is white, It should be a luminous orange.
My money is on some kind of electronics failure causing a disconnect between the hardware and software. It could be the wireless controller simply not connecting since it's a cheap piece of shit that I wouldn't even use on a flight sim - I would shit a brick if all of this is through some kind of catastrophic failure in their $30 remote (Proudly stated as the CEO's only method of interacting with the onboard software)... A fucking wireless controller. Oh wait, There is also the ELEVATOR BUTTON.
@@taintedtango2737 My thoughts exactly. Isn't too much of a mystery really. As, you say quite rightly, it would take time to get the necessary equipment in place to detect those types of signals from the banging.
@@taintedtango2737 The sad irony is it was the Titanic disaster itself that brought about a radical rethink on lifeboat provison requirements for future cruises. Likewise, this disaster I suspect, again linked to the Titanic, will bring on a radical rethink of safety protocols for submersibles.
It’s impressive how a TV reporter cuts down on a man with such experience on deep water exploration because she doesn’t want to hear the crude reality of his words.
It may be harsh to listen, but this gentlemen is saying what his experience on this environment had taught him. He has been to the deepest known part of the ocean or perhaps the earth. BEFORE ANYBODY!!
You should listen to the man lady
It's not because "she doesn't want to hear" it. She knows just as much, no, more than you do. She's trying to be sensitive to their families. Grow up.
@tedunguent156 Fake sympathy is the worse. Most adults would rather accept reality then be treated like kids.
I appreciate his candor. I’d rather hear it straight and to the point. There is no rescue and never was. This was a recovery from the beginning. Hopefully someone was just honest with the family up front
Even if they are still alive it doesn’t matter. It didn’t matter the second they went below the waves.
Some men will do this, most women will.
Don't be so harsh on her. Like every other reporter, she probably has an earpiece with an angry director telling her to get things moving before the next commercial break. Even though I agree it would be better to let him speak, she is probably just trying to navigate within the time constraints of the network.
She cut him off like it’s his fault‼️Thank you Sir for being real and prayers for these men and their families.🙏🏽🥺
She missed the point. He was clearly stating that if it were people making those banging noises, they would’ve started the minute they lost contact. Not two days later.
Precisely.
He was basically trying to tell her that the sonar readings were a false positive, and he was right.
Because now authorities have updated them by stating that the initial sonar readings were inconclusive and inconsistent.
The good Captain flat out told this rude arrogant woman that the ocean is a noisy place.
Yet she had her own ideas and "expertise".
I wanted to hear more what he had to say, cutting him off like that was damn rude!!!!
She does this ALL the time,notorious for this.!
I agree. Banfield knows nothing. She's a big mouth.
Its a female what do you expect
@@jazz9236femaAAAAAle ???
@@jazz9236 usually no one wants you to talk
What is the point of rushing him. He's giving very insightful information.
If you didn't want his answer you should not have asked! I could care less how great of an interviewer you are. It's outright rude to cut someone off just because you don't like his REQUESTED advice. I would rather the truth than a fairytale from someone who has probably only been in a drop of water!!! Thank you Capt for being to the point and realistic! My hopes are that they are found alive.
She is way more rude and not professional. What’s professional is being real about death.
I like how she throws unbiased coverage in at the end.
Agreed, expecially since this was her second go round because she felt "jarred" at him being professionally honest the first time!!!
When Cpt. Don Walsh gives an opinion, you better listen. There is probably no greater expert and legend (besides Jacques Cousteau - but not for submarines) than Mr. Walsh. He is an engineer, Naval Academy graduate and has spent more time in submersibles all over the world than anyone.
Most notably, he went with Jacques Piccard on the Trieste (Bathyscape) to the deepest known bottom of the sea in the Marian Trench. (I had to look the numbers up:) reaching a depth of 35,797 feet (10,911 meters). That's deeper than Mt. Everest is high!
I think the reporter has no idea whom she is talking to and trying to correct!
reporters are clueless
Talking heads rule ! That is according to them !!
He’s basically saying sound travels a lot harder in water then it does air. And the equipment underwater a lot slower and out dated…
This woman is dangerous
Her ignorance precedes her on this topic
..from the time clock of Oxygen left countdown to death to the presumption that the Navy did not act when learning of the banging intervals
Ive lost all confidence in her appropriate reporting
She is a stupid woman.
We'd rather hear the expert tell the facts, not be interrupted by a newscaster with no experience in the field. She rudely cut him off
Thank you, Captain, for sharing your expertise in such a gracious, professional manner. Interviewer could learn a lot from you.
He is 92 and can still think and speak so well. This event truly opened my eyes seeing these wonderful professionals. So I guess those 5 guys did serve a purpose after all. I hope the world learn from this lesson.
yup, the same lesson that should have been learned with the titanic back in 1912
@starkeymorgan7481 Don't climb into a shitty plastic coffin with 4 others.
@starkeymorgan7481 Always Respect Mother Ocean 🤙🏽
The lesson I take from it, is money doesn't equal brains
I wish Biden could be so articulate and smart .
love this guy, he is a REALIST, its not a movie with a happy ending
As harsh as these answers may sound, I truly appreciate Capt. Don's realistic opinions on this situation.
I still hope they are found alive. 🥺
At this point, it’s to hopefully recover their bodies.
I honestly dont appreciate anything less. Tons of people bsing and causing false hope. Hes 100% speaking what he truly believes.
Nobody is banging. They died way before they were even close to the titanic. This is Apollo 1 all over again.
RIGHT IM 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾THEY DO BECAUSE THIS IS SAD 😞
@@charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660agreed! Did you hear how the former employee was fired when raising concerns of the the one glass window was only meant to withstand pressures at 1300 meters down but the sub was going 4000 meters down?!?! My mind tells me that sub was used multiple times & finally gave in to the pressure!
Praying for otherwise though!
Also Ocean Gate waited 8 HOURS before informing the Coast Guard that they lost communication. The guest brings up a lot of important points.
What was operator's backup plan if anything goes wrong on these dives? I assume there's no plan and participants know that and sign an indemnity waiver? Shut up and take my US$250,000
People have been conjecturing that this delay in raising the alarm may be due to a test run of the sub which had been conducted previously-- during this test, the sub lost communication a similar amount of time after launch as it did on this most recent run. This might have caused topside operators to assume that the sub was not in danger based on precedent and only really start to worry as the sub didn't show after its scheduled return. And who knows, maybe the sub was in fact not in real danger for some hours after losing comms, but if you ask me, the sub should've been equipped with reliable communications before ever taking members of the public.
@@aortaheart1910I think they're tangled in the wreck.
@@aortaheart1910Too bad the CEO found it annoying to report to mere mortals. Serves him right, along with the rest of the rich pricks who toss money into the wind but underpay people.
I could listen to him all day. What a wealth of knowledge he has, truly invaluable.
5 people voluntarily lock themselves in an uncertified sub, then decide to go to depths not even military submarines dare to
I hope they are rescue so that the governments involved can go after their assets to cover this foolishness. There are people that die on the streets every year from exposure because there wasn't any shelter for them, but we're spending I'm not even sure how many tens of millions of dollars on this rescue attempt because they were too arrogant to take the risks seriously.
And 100s of people have put themselves on space ships and gone into space... and didn't always go well either.... It's part of human nature.
Why. Just goggle titanic and it will show u how it looks. No need to dive there. Really
Maybe they just trying to fake their death so that they don’t pay taxes or something..
Don’t forget that they’re at a depth of 4000 meters, when the sub has only been rated at 1400 meters. The CEO is an idiot. His hubris will ruin families, including his own, since he’s on that ship.
The journalist has a career based on telling lies. This is why she was shocked with someone who has the honour and courage to tell the truth.
Bingo
💯
Trying to be Nancy Grace. Not a good look.
Nope she is just following her director order.
Oh you said that so well.
This woman just doesn't get it...even the search and rescue captain said yesterday, even if they find the sub, they're still not sure how they'll be able to bring it up at that depth.
The navy said they have a wench capable of twice the depth and twice the weight... the problem is the 2.5 hours down & 2.5 hours back up & opening the capsule.. oh well ya kno
But ya , this broad is why I stopped watching most of news Nation. She's gross
This story is big money for them. Their viewership is up and thus they are milking this story for everything its worth. They need this to be a rescue because thats a better story and gets the viewers hooked.
@@TimothyMcVay Also how do you even hook it up to the sub?
@PokemanOkie idk maybe multiple magnets. Assuming it's not made of aluminum. Hopefully they had a lethal dose of benzodiazepines or opiates. Sad deal
she was "jarred' by his answer while her show is displaying the "oxygen remaining" clock... ok lady.
😭
Wow I just noticed that. That is horrible.
If they are still actually under the water then they either imploded, got intertwined, or trapped in the Titanic itself. That sub was designed to float to the surface even with everyone unconscious, via links that disolve in seawater, which will release the ballast.
She seemed a little miffed that he wasn't pretending to be hopeful of a recovery of the Titan. He keeping it real and just giving facts, actually those who are talking like the Titan might be found and recovered are sounding silly at this point. No one know better than Stockton Rush that help is not coming. Even if they had pinpointed the location of the Titan early on, bringing them up was literally mission impossible.
Today feelings take absolute precedence. Reality is irrelevant if it doesn't promote the desired emotions. The world is always like this to some degree but it has absolutely been wound up to 11 at the moment.
In fact, there is a military submersible on route to the area as I type this that is capable of deep diving and towing Titan to the surface if found. Not likely they will be found in time, but all efforts are being made.
He wasn't feeding into her American bullshit. This isn't a Hollywood movie; it's real life. These news reporters live inside of a bubble and desperately try to sell a story - a false narrative.
Right but he know the truth because he done it before they not gone find them the sky
Reporting is about balance. Discussing the facts but trying to be sensitive to their FAMILIES. Those people aren't dead, yet. They will be by this time tomorrow.
Honestly out of all the coverage I’ve watched regarding this, I appreciate this the most. It’s horrifying to think they are still alive, what a terrifying experience this would be. To be stuck knowing you’re going to run out of air, in a cramped space like that?!! I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, I pray mostly for their peace at this moment. If they’re alive that’s truly amazing, they’re gonna need a ton of therapy though… I just, the ocean is less understood than space. This is overall horrifying, I hope their suffering is not long. Imagine being in that situation for 96 hours and not going mad, these aren’t navy seals for crying out loud.
When they rescue them they are all gonna write books and get so many interview requests. They all need to get ready for the rollercoaster
If they die at least they are not alone.
Honestly, I'm happy they Atleast have eachother. Even tho it may be cramped. Imagine being there alone. That's when I'd panic hard.
@@dathorndike4908 dude its not possible to rescue them how do you possibly think they can be rescued
... To be stuck knowing you’re going to run out of air, in a cramped space like that?! ... and knowing those 4 other people are using up your O2 ... and knowing they know the same ...
Last night, I watched this broadcast. I came back today because I remembered what Captain Walsh said. His presumptions were right! Today, it has been confirmed that the five people aboard the Titanic sub likely died on Sunday when the sub imploded. The captain was right! 🇺🇸
Captain spitting facts. I hope he’s wrong too, but most likely he’s right. With this little time left and no positive location they have pretty much sealed their fates.
READ THIS: They KNOW what happened and ALSO why communication was lost! I know someone in the coast guard who works with sea rescue. I hear there was a gas leak on it. they heard strange noises, like a rumbling, before they submerged and there were even signs of it before they began the descent but the crew "didn't want to say anything" because they are high profile clients. Well basically as they submerged the radio communication picked up on the sound it was a like kind of wet sound like a balloon deflating and they heard everyone inside of the submersible start to panic. So it is believed at this time from NASAR (North Atlantic Search and Rescue) that this was some kind of noxious gas, causing unconsciousness, and that's why the failsafe systems didn't kick in. Another report is that there was someone inside of the cabin freaking out because it is said there was liquid "spewing" all over the cabin and clogging the instrument panels. Apparently it is a really disturbing audio.
Apparently the submarine just descended straight into the hole where the grand staircase was(the leaked camera footage has it) and the whole way down they are playing the glorious Titanic theme music (this is to wow their customers and make it more theatric) but there is also in the background explosive diarrhea farting sounds and frantic screams of panic and disgust. so the submarine is just sealed in the middle of the titanic with all that diarrhea farting and gas trapped in it. The current thought is that one of the people on board was gassy and that's why they smelled it before they submerged, because they were "letting off some steam" or "crop dusting" in order to relieve bowel pressure and ultimately couldn't hold it in so had diarrhea farts on board and basically the whole cabin became filled with liquid excretions causing everyone to lose consciousness.
@@SlumberBear2k Your proof?
@@SlumberBear2kdude what
@@Qwijebo
Pretty sure that's either a severely misinformed individual or an obnoxious troll.
Most likely option B.
I like guys like him, tell it how it is. No sugar coating. Direct and to the point.
92 years old. Much different men than we have today.
It’s been confirmed that the OceanGate ‘ Titan ‘ reached a depth of 10983 feet in 1 hour 45 minutes and it imploded. RIP.
This makes sense to be honest as it’s about a 2 hour dive .. the vessel has been now officially declared ‘ Lost at Sea ‘ ..
They may not have waited so long to tap, but because it took OceanGate nearly 24 hours to contact anyone about this emergency, the tools to pick up the noise most likely weren’t deployed in time to hear it any earlier than this.
Facts
Wrong.
The sonar buoys had been in the water for hours before they picked up the noise the first time.
They shouldn't of went down there anyway...let them souls and ship rest in peace...SMH
It didn’t take them 24 hours, took them like 6-8 hours
@ Bopsterjazz
Actually you are spot on. But for slightly different reasons.
I’ve been glued to my phone since this tragedy unfolded… Soooo, I’ve got a bead on the rescue timeline somewhat.
The experts onboard the submersible knew it would take a considerable amount of time for the rescue to get “ in place “.
The Coast Guard expert praised the decision to bang at that particular time since earlier banging would have been in vain and would have cost energy and extra oxygen.
I was in the Navy decades ago…..
I knew the Coast Guard was setting up the perimeter and updating the Navy…… the Navy has highly classified “ sea toys “ that can do amazing things involving detection.
( they rather keep it……. low key )
I am confident…… they will get these guys in time…………. It’s not easy…..
But that’s why we have the most technically advanced Navy on earth!
GOD SPEED!!!!!
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Is it not possible that the tapping noises always existed but no one ever listened for them before?
The ocean is kinda noisy - it's said that the USN's subs make less noise than ambient, so when they secure to silent running, they are like a hole in the water...
There are constantly lots of banging and tapping noises in the oceans from oil and gas drilling, pumping, and exploration operations, low frequency acoustic waves travel hundreds of miles in water.
shes saying is the intervals, guys on that sub know that ocean is noisy, they should do it accordingly so that those who are listening would recognise that the noise is human, ang also to pin point the exact origin maybe.
Yes however the coast guard did not say as soon as we got better hearing capabilities we heard these specific noises, if anything they have been advising that the noises that were reported by the search and rescue group and propagated by the news for clicks could really be anything. They would have specified they were heard as soon as capabilities were available. It could be they are narrowing down to anything and everything to cross the Ts. You have to pay attention to the lingo the source uses. This captain is experienced. In a search like that you don’t want to miss details and report everything and anything but unless they come out confident it’s probably nothing. This reported is def irritated and wants to hear what she wants because that’s what’s selling. Before we know anything the family will be notified, miracles do happen but this is likely a tragedy already. And honestly lord forgive me but if I were there I pray God would give me the least painful death possible the amount of misery if still alive is inconceivable.
its probably some engineer on a container ship fixing a busted toilet tbh.
No matter what you think of those guys
They were brave men for having the courage to go to the bottom of the ocean.
R.I.P. 😢😢😢
Not for brave reasons though
no, they were stupid, it's been known for years that this vessel hasnt been pressure tested, anyone with half a brain wouldn't go anywhere near it
Foolhardiness and bravery are not the same thing at all.
She interrupted the important guest ..she needs a mute button. ..he is SUPER IMPORTANT in history. ..she has no idea who he really is
The captain made many great points
READ THIS: They KNOW what happened and ALSO why communication was lost! I know someone in the coast guard who works with sea rescue. I hear there was a gas leak on it. they heard strange noises, like a rumbling, before they submerged and there were even signs of it before they began the descent but the crew "didn't want to say anything" because they are high profile clients. Well basically as they submerged the radio communication picked up on the sound it was a like kind of wet sound like a balloon deflating and they heard everyone inside of the submersible start to panic. So it is believed at this time from NASAR (North Atlantic Search and Rescue) that this was some kind of noxious gas, causing unconsciousness, and that's why the failsafe systems didn't kick in. Another report is that there was someone inside of the cabin freaking out because it is said there was liquid "spewing" all over the cabin and clogging the instrument panels. Apparently it is a really disturbing audio.
Apparently the submarine just descended straight into the hole where the grand staircase was(the leaked camera footage has it) and the whole way down they are playing the glorious Titanic theme music (this is to wow their customers and make it more theatric) but there is also in the background explosive diarrhea farting sounds and frantic screams of panic and disgust. so the submarine is just sealed in the middle of the titanic with all that diarrhea farting and gas trapped in it. The current thought is that one of the people on board was gassy and that's why they smelled it before they submerged, because they were "letting off some steam" or "crop dusting" in order to relieve bowel pressure and ultimately couldn't hold it in so had diarrhea farts on board and basically the whole cabin became filled with liquid excretions causing everyone to lose consciousness.
@@SlumberBear2kif you’re joking this is the funniest thing I’ve ever read. If you’re not… wtf
@@SlumberBear2k what the hell did i just read lol
They went silent because they were deceased. They're not banging on the sub, they're gone, RIP
Agreed. I did the math out and it imploded somewhere between 9,000 and 10,500 feet by the sink rate to bottom time.
💯 PERCENT agreed!!
Lol y’all are talking like you are God. Whether or not they are safe, YOU don’t know either.
@@Salty_Balls were you on the sub were you? No so you can only speculate like everyone else except them 5 people who are in the sub... If your math were anywhere near the mark and your brain was actually capable of understanding facts then you'd understand that there was only 5 things down there that deep that would be banging for 3 minutes every half hour and those 5 things are all trapped in the sub... But keep trying to be an expert champ... That's why they haven't asked you for and won't be ever asking you for you opinion
Ya, I suspect that it imploded - we may find out that SOSUS picked up the implosion - this has happened before. Who knows if they will ever locate it - it could be 100 m away and get missed. So much for undersea tourism
Whether people like it or not,this gentleman has a good point. Why did they wait so long? That part doesn't make sense,so I agree with this expert that there's probably no hope😢
One of the best interview story ever! As soon as they lost power I would have started tapping.
The man with most experience possibly on this earth says something we should listen.
Its harsh and we want to hooe for the best but its over. RIP
Take the oxygen counter off your display. How insensitive
Thank you! Furthermore, we aren’t stupid. We can do the math if we want to know.
Agreed, completely insensitive.
Yeah it’s pretty gratuitous.
The fact they have a "Oxygen Remaining" countdown seems so messed up to me. I hope that the end wasn't painful for people in the sub.
Imagine jumping out of a plane with an experimental parachute that hadn't been tested properly?
maybe they did start tapping right away it just wasnt picked up
The biggest question today should be, if this thing had seven redundant backup systems capable of bringing the sub to the surface, what happened?
Ghost net from some fishing trawlers?
Apparently it imploded and they found the debris near the titanic
I’m an eternal optimist with waves of horrible pessimism but it will take a miracle for these people to come out alive.
I suppose that miracle would be they are already floating on the surface and will be found soon.
I've watched videos on implosion experiments. It takes very little outward pressure, and they had tremendous outward pressure.
Yet, miracles do happen.
@@williamclayton2323 I was just saying this to my husband. In fact, almost 40 years ago the Challenger exploded, and just 2-3 years ago we were given the information that It's likely they spent a minute or two fully aware that they were doomed :( I think we all watched that and tried to comfort ourselves thinking that they died immediately).
Not a good comparison, but here I am, obsessed with the outcome of these people who willingly sacrificed their lives for adventure? notoriety?
I'm torn between empathy for fellow human beings, and accepting "Darwin's fate". Maybe they're not mutually exclusive....
@@shawnmarie459 A minute or two vs. a couple of days vs. a few years (what my Mom is doing, slowly) -- having seen the slow process in action, the faster ones are not so bad. Closure, if it's possible is nice, but if you're right with Jesus, fast means you get to Heaven faster. There's never a better time to get right with Jesus than right now.
From what I've been seeing outside the 24/7 news cycle, it was probably quick. They may not have had any sign that anything was wrong.
By now, it's done either way. I'm not even sure we'll end up finding debris.
The reason these people died is because of people like Ashleigh who cut off and interrupted the critical negative naysayers who were warning about the safety of this vessel. Imagine being Stockton Rush and having to explain to everyone onboard "why we're dying right now because of me." They're onboard because they believed in him and looked up to him for his charismatic and positive communication abilities about safety. Often the people who are polite, non-critical and cultivate a positive and attractive image are actually the most evil because they're forced to maintain that positivity by being untruthful or selectively truthful about certain things. Just look at media personalities across mainstream and social media, most of them are corrupt because they'll lose opportunities if they don't play the game. Even for someone who is small it is easy to become compromised right away. I'm one of the most critical people you'll ever run into and when I try to do the smallest things and I can see how I'm easily compromised and have to omit truthful details just to resolve some situation. Stockton Rush became fully corrupted by his own positive image and the necessity to maintain it. The problem is that a lot of people operate like robots and use a very simplistic algorithm when observing the world, they basically evaluate everything they hear by using these criteria:
A) Is it praising something? Is it praising me?
B) Is it critical, impolite?
If the answer is B) then the person is rejected, downvoted, censored, blocked, banned, fired. Humanity is held back from advancing into the future because our culture is antidialectical and foundationally based around teaching people to hate the person who posted option B) and to highly value option A). But the deepest problem is that option B) was the person who was trying to improve things. Try posting a critical comment on RUclips and watch it get shadow-banned, hidden, or downvoted to the bottom. Post a gushing positive comment praising the creator and watch yourself get 74 upvotes. That's how Stockton Rush was able to kill people with the assistance of people like Ashleigh.
No one said those that have money where smart...
Wow you spoke a truthful mouthful!
Well said and sadly, very true
But they all got there moneys worth as it cost only quarter of a million each to go see titanic and they get to stay there.
Lmfao
What a beautiful thing to happen to rich people
Wow! I wish I understood everything you said but it sounds good to me. What makes me sad is that there is people with lots of money doing these crazy things that seems impossible and in the process exposing others to danger… for what… to loose their lives as well
Its like trying to rescue the space shuttle. He makes an excellent point.
If somehow they are found alive, this will be the greatest rescue mission in history
Bolted in with no way of rescue, just to see an underwater graveyard up close. Such a horrible way to die. A father and a son. Heartbreaking 💔
And to pay $250,000 a piece to die a horrible death watching you son die or son watching his father.
If you are inclined to answer this question: *If you were the man aboard this vessel with his teenaged son, and you are aware that only 3 hours of oxygen remain for the crew of 5 persons, would you view it as your moral, fatherly duty to maximize your son’s opportunity for survival and rescue by eliminating the other, older consumers of the oxygen supply (including yourself)?*
@@HopliteWarlord Karma.
@@u.synlig ......wtf?
I heard it was a big scheme to fake deaths. The billionaire etc. who knows tho. So many angles out there
I've never seen this much news coverage, resources spent, and resources poured to find five missing people and for such an unrealistic rescue operation with the absolute near zero chances of success. I'm not saying we shouldn't try. I just find it odd how there have been missing fishing boats, people trapped in collapsed buildings and people stranded from floods that received way less new coverage and way less money and resources spent on trying to save them. I also never seen news anchors show this much empathy to missing people. Like they are really aggressive with the showcase of empathy it oftentimes feels forced. I guess billionaire's really do get special treatment.
I hope they're found in time. I also hope Ashleigh Banfield starts allowing qualified experts to finish their sentences.
Not to sound pessimistic, but I believe both scenarios are non-starters.
Absolute legend, and sharp as hell at 91!!!
This is what is wrong with News Media today. They try to drive their own opinions in what they think is or isn't, and what you should believe regardless on what the experts are saying. You should as a reporter, be non-bias, and you asked his opinion. Let him give it and not argue with him. I wish the outcome was different and they were able to save their lives!
He is just being frank and honest about the situation. Seems that many people don't like it.
I don't get it. He's not wishing anything bad on them, he's just stating reality. I would rather know reality than having smoke blown up my dress. People can be optimistic all they want, but they are down to 90 minutes of air left. Short of divine intervention, they are done.
The disrespect…u invite someone on to give their expertise advise and just cause they not answering how u want u cut them off…I appreciate his honesty cause he is saying what most want to but don’t
Why interview someone if you are not going to like what he has to say. The interviewer could not wait to shut him up.
Basic math. It took them 2 days to sail to the site. They knew it would take at least that long for rescue ships to arrive. Tapping requires physical exertion witch increases oxygen consumption and also CO2 production. The intelligent thing would be to wait to tap until it was most likely to be heard and to do it at regular intervals.
@@b_one_66 Apparently loss of communication at depth was "normal" , and the mothership expected to hear from them again as they ascended.
Except planes don't take anywhere near as long to fly out and drop sonar buoys.
Perhaps it took them that long to discover a sound.
They had ample sonar in place within 24 hours.
@@b_one_66 YOU would think but near 12 hrs passed before USCG was notified.
Regardless, knowing that they would need to be housed up and that any ship with the capabilities to locate them then houst them would be min 2 days sailing time away they would have wanted to save their energy and oxygen.
But those tapping noises may not even have been from Titan...😢
I don't think they waited this long to start tapping. I think it took this long for us to get assets into the water which could detect the tapping.
What kind of man takes a 19 year old boy on something like this? If that boy had been born to poor parents he'd be alive with a bright future ahead of him now.
What does tapping sound matter when you are at the bottom of the ocean miles down where no one can reach you. In life we make decisions and sometimes the wrong ones. RIP
BY THE TIME YOU READ THIS COMMENT, the sub had already run out of oxygen supply, no more than an hour or so based on the countdown on the screen. I'm assuming the rescue will now be a recovery mission. Prayers to those involved in this tragedy and hope and safety for the search teams to find and retrieve the sub.🙏🙏🙏.
I respect the Captain as an honest and realistic commentator. In the past twenty-four hours I've read everything I can about this sub situation, and I've watched every RUclips video I can possibly fit into my day. Yesterday I was feeling extremely sad and emotional about all this. After learning so much about this submersible, the company doing these "tourist" adventures , and the guy who founded all this stuff, I am now mostly sad only for those people who love the four passengers. One can immediately see and sympathize with with these folks enduring such fear, sorrow and sadness for the people inside the sub. But I must admit, upon learning how irresponsible, arrogant and so very priviledged the man running the operation has been towards safety measures, the practical standards and regulations associated with this kind of thing, and his monstrous disregard for so much plain common sense in preparation for, and in response to past problems with the operation, I now feel real contempt for him. As for the passengers and their awful fate, I still feel the deepest regret and sorrow for them, but which is also tempered by own knowledge and experience as a risk-taker myself, that doing stuff like this is indeed risky, and whenever I have done this kind of thing, I've always been ready to be accountable for my decisions and ready to face the very real possibility of things going wrong. I can only admire these four guys if they have gone into this in the same spirit.
My opinion pretty much mirrors yours
I have great sympathy for the 3 passengers and the submersible pilot.
Not so much for the founder and CEO Stockton Rush.
I don't usually find dark humor funny but somebody got me with it yesterday.
It was in regards to sounds resembling banging on the submersible hull being picked up by sonar. Where in an SOS situation crew take turns banging on the hull every half hour for 3 minutes as hard as they possibly can.
Well anyway this person suggested that the passengers take turns banging on the CEO every half hour for three *hard* minutes instead.
I totally LOL'd
@@tonyducks1121 Same here.
I'm just very glad Stockton was on board when this happened.
@@StrangeScaryNewEngland
I think we all are.
@@tonyducks1121 Indeed
The most honest person alive!
Really. Even AB was lost for words a minute. 😭
@@tealblue4987 WORD
There is lots who are honest- it’s just they trying to shut us down((
@@Citibank639 And what you can do about it I would *love* to know.
@@DurkPreston 😭😲
I'm pretty sure that once I looked inside that sub, and seen that it was operated by a Gameboy control with a couple lap tops, I would of grabbed my quarter of a mill, and ran
😂😂😂
This guy makes the most sense of anyone I've heard so far. I don't think very highly of the reporter lady.
There were so many ' near misses ' and yet nobody did anything about it , it was an accident waiting to happen .
Let us all pray that rescue is still possible .
I had lost hope as soon as I watched your first video about this incident. Everything else thereafter has just felt superfluous. The government’s sole focus should be recovering the sub in a slow and deliberate fashion to protect the lives of rescuers and secure the bodies for surface burial.
The odds are indeed long, between hypothermia, dehydration and the increasing CO2 and decreasing O2 levels in the sub, the likelihood of them even being alive tomorrow morning are not ones that I'd want to take. Time will tell if they're actually on the surface, but if they're not, the likelihood is more or less zero for a successful rescue of living passengers.
Let them have what they paid for: the Full Titanic Expérience. 😂
@@jeffmccloud905 Cause unlike titanic victims, these victims families are well alive and need closure.
This is the most logical thing I've read in days. I think all of them know deep down inside what the outcome is, but at this point trying to appease the family and now national headlines. Damned if they do damned if they don't, but like you said don't risk others lives. These men aboard signed a paper understanding the risks.
@@jeffmccloud905 Yeahh but little us have no control over who these people search for and for how long😅
It’s a recovery, not a rescue. The navy absolutely knows and won’t disclose to preserve our navy/military capabilities.
They paid for the Titanic experience and they got the Titanic experience.
Who would've guessed his backyard, $100 makeshift water heater sub, duct taped together w/ Home Depot parts and driven by a generic PS controller would have complications 2 miles down in the Atlantic? So unexpected. Very shocked. Much perplexed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bad idea from the start..no doubt.
Ya think PS2 controller would raised red flags😶🌫️🤯🤯🤯
How does he know they didn't start tapping? Were the people searching early on capable of hearing tapping right away?
Exactly.
I just said the same thing
IKR 🤪
How do you know it's even them making that noise? The ocean is vast, those noises could be anything...sound travels a lot farther underwater .
That old fart, totally missed the fact that it wasnt until navy dropped sonarboies they started to pick up the sounds ffs.
For a start, I found it unbelievable that there’s not a single guy in this sub that started to Morse their location in the walls of the sub…. No, those guys are long gone !
They’re dead. They’re not tapping.
I want to know why they waited so long to call the cost guard
They said in previous test runs they had also lost comms so when they lost comms this time they “assumed” it would just come back.
I want to know why they even went down there let them souls rest...SMH
Not sure why she kept trying to get him to take back his statement. He was extremely factual and realistic based on what was known at the time. And unfortunately was right in the end.
Wokism is all about occupying self-proclaimed moral high ground
I wish she had let him finish making his point
I can’t imagine the terror the people in it are feeling.
*felt
Yea I don't believe they're with us
It's like that crowd crush in South Korea are they would have been dead long before... and if the ship didn't end up imploding they would most likely die by suffocation which when you die and you're suffocating like that you basically vomit before you die
If you asked his opinion, respect it even if that was not what you wanted to hear from him.
I like this guy , should have him on again.
They're giving Capt Walsh shit for being realistic but forget that they have a fckn countdown on their screen 😂
Dude it’s so frightening and horrible to think at this very moment someone is potentially living their final hours in our ocean at the bottom of the sea in pitch black darkness..humans have been living in the bottom of the sea since Sunday.. horrible way to go
Nah sub imploded that’s why it lost comms. Wasn’t stuck on the sea bed and they weren’t begging to be rescued. They were dead days ago
I don’t think desire to visit the Titanic wreck is as much of the issue as is the lack of safety precaution. Exploration is perfectly fine but it has to be done the right way.
It's already been revealed that they weren't banging sounds, they just reported "Ocean sounds" which doesn't mean anything in particular, the recordings are being analyzed, but there was no bashing or 30 minute intervals, that's all made up.
If it was me in that sub no one would even care. People only care because they're rich.
The journalist managed in her stress to move on, to cut him off when he was about to explain something very important that would make more people understand why this is so extremely difficult and one of the reasons for why he has very little or no hope for them.
As I have.
I have extremely little hope for these people and I had that from the moment I heard about this.
That is not called "stress", my good sir. That is called "uncouth ignorance" of the tenets of good and upright journalism which she should have learned from day 1 in her career! Journalists cannot involve their emotions or their biases in the objective reporting of the news. She has clearly broken her journalistic vows and should be "retrained" or "rehabilitated" -- and there is no excuse for emotions interfering since she is on the job at the moment!
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I heard another vid saying they would run out of air around 12am.. It's now 1:18am... If they weren't already gone, they are now.
She had a producer screaming in her ear.
This guy keeping things real
I specifically came back here to say the man is right and she is rude to cut him off.
Exactly, i searched thru the history section of my youtube just wanting to leave the same comment as yours here. The lady is too rude to a respected man who could be her grandfather.
Even if they did have as much air as they claimed, doubtful, these people are dead by now if they weren’t after the moment they lost communication with the vessel. Unfortunate but these people are beyond saving
Its strictly recovery now.
No food no water bathroom issues. Its a terrible way to die slow
@@sandyjenksrealtor You'd rather exist one second and gone the next, like switching off a light?
I was really interested in what he was saying and wanted to hear more but she rudely and very disrespectfully cut him off
I agree. Banfield is annoying.
NEWSNATION i think YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS LADY, JOURNALIST, just give her another thing to do rather that this! give this position to someone who deserves it
Miracle or alien intervention is the only thing that can save these men at this point.
alien intervention - I was thinking this as well.
I was thinking the same
my bets on alf.
I was thinking Cthulhu.
“Alien” or Divine….?
Why the hell do they have a clock counting down the time until they have no air left. I think that’s sick. I mean, I think everyone understands the reality of the situation, I don’t see how that’s helpful. This isn’t a movie. This is people’s lives.
Don Walsh you have been one of my heroes since 1960 when I was 5 years old. Glad to see you are well. Sadly I don't think you are wrong, either.
Having a Oxygen timer...is morbid, sick minded and heartless..smh
What the actual hell I just noticed that
...and having it so accurate to the second. LOL. Like how the eff does this channel know the precise amount of oxygen and rate of consumption to get anywhere near +/- 12 hours of accuracy, let alone a second.
Why did the "mother ship" wait an whole day to call for help?