Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 | A Flawed Yet Satisfying Sequel
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- Retrospective review for one of the most polarising and interesting video game sequels of all time. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 from 2009. Sequel to the legendary Marvel: Ultimate Alliance from 2006.
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I am considering changing the title of this video for one particular reason. I uploaded it today and I have just been recommended a video from a large gaming channel that also reviewed the game and it has almost the exact same title "A Flawed Yet Satisfying Sequel" I swear I didn't copy that title but everyone is gonna think I did😂It doesn't really matter I guess.
I understand being disappointed in the removal of characters like silver surfer but he has NO business being involved in such a grounded story. He had nothing to do with the civil war and was definitely in the first game due to galactus.
Yea I agree but they could have kept in moon knight
Comic civil war is a shit story anyways lol
True. That's part of the reason I don't think it should have been a grounded story.
@@nordicwarriorgaming4953 what really upset me the most was that the future installments of ultimate alliance didn’t follow the first one. It was supposed to continue the continuity then UA2 popped out with civil war and UA3 didn’t even continue from UA2 and did infinity war
@@nordicwarriorgaming4953 and to add on to what you said the rest of the franchise feels anticlimactic due to the high stakes on the first one and they could’ve added stronger characters into the lineup
Does anyone else get a real magical nostalgia from the main menu theme..
Personally I do from the first game since I played that a lot more as a kid.
I buy Sue being in a different side than Reed because he is more mathematical and she is more emphatetic. Besides, they are maried, not the same person.
I agree that Wolverine would never go with the registration, not after what Weapon X did to him.
Also, that Sue thing kind of happens in the comics. After the Thor clone kills Goliath, Sue protects Cap's team and goes from pro-registration to anti-registration even though Reed stays on the pro-registration side.
You forgot to mention the DLC characters that they introduced besides juggernaut.. I believe it was psylocke, cable, Carnage, the Black Panther
He said BP wasn't playable lol.
0:22 lmaoo I miss old Spidey's humor
AYYYY I’m one of the people asking you for this!!
That menu music for Ultimate Alliance 2 absolutely slaps. Game is certainly flawed but that opening theme sales you on the tone the game is going for.
True the opening theme is good. I still prefer the first game though personally.
Oddly, the games take on Civil War is a little better than the comic event it was based on
Hope you do Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 as well, I'd love to hear what you thought about it.
Will be looking into it at some point. Have never played it before.
Have you ever read a Fantastic Four comic? Sue would absolutely tell Reed that he's wrong. That's one of the best parts of her character (at least the more modern interpretations). She's not afraid to tell Reed that he's being an idiot or that what he's doing is wrong and that's one of the best parts of her character
So the best part of her character is that she doesn't respect her husband and openly mocks and undermines him? Wow. And we wonder why divorce rates and broken family units are so high now with this kind of crap being taught to children.
@nordicwarriorgaming4953 you truly believe that telling someone they're wrong is disrespectful? The strongest relationships are when both partners can not only accept when they're wrong, but also be able to point out when the partner is doing something wrong, before the other can destroy themselves beyond repair. I have the utmost respect for my wife as she does me, and we both have no problem pointing out when we are doing the wrong thing or talking about any issues between us. What leads to broken families and divorce is fragile egos that aren't willing to admit that they're in the wrong, and are too fragile to take any criticism or look at something in a different way
@@irahersey9184 Fair enough.
i actually loved this game so much when i first played it because the civil war storyline in the comics was the first special event i ever read, so i have a strong fondness for any of its adaptations. but, going back and replaying the first MUA, you can definitely feel that it has that "it" factor that the sequel lacks. great review--love your channel!! :)
Thanks. I agree there is just something about the first game that keeps you playing longer.
While I genuinely adore MUA 2, I do agree that it is a step down from MUA 1. For me, I feel that MUA 2 is not as immersive as the first one was. Like in MUA 1, you were able to talk with the characters and get their origin stories or references to recent/past comic book events, and in good detail. Or they would even talk about the current objectives and give insight to who or what something is. Not to mention the amount of special dialogue hidden throughout the game. Even now when I play it, I feel like I discover new dialogue. And it's so spread out around everywhere: from the main hub areas, to random NPC interactions, and of course the boss fights (my favorite dialogue is between Spider-Man, Lizard and Scorpion). I felt like I was in the Marvel Universe! In MUA 2, I don't get that. When speaking to other characters, they are just replaced with dialogue trees and once you speak to them, you can't speak to them again. Even then, you can only talk to them for so long until they just say, "sorry I got to go" and walk away lol. I remember how disappointed I was when I would run in to a villain of one of the heroes on my team and find that there was no special dialogue. Not to mention that, in the hub areas, on the rare occasions you actually find a special dialogue, your character doesn't even speak! It's just the same responses written in the way they speak, with the NPC doing the special dialogue. Not to mention the lack of costumes and powers. Overall, I didn't find myself really "get into" MUA 2. Sure, I customized a little, but all in all, I found myself mainly just going with the flow. In the first game, I found myself actually taking the time to really strategize and customize my team in so many aspects: their gear, their costumes, their powers, and their stats. Anytime I found an upgrade, I would take a look at my team and strategize over who would benefit more. I didn't really get into that here apart from picking the heroes and occasionally customizing their stats.
What I did like about MUA 2 was the Fusion Mechanic. I really disliked how in the first game, ALL your heroes unleashed their Xtreme power regardless. And then it took forever to build them back up for EACH character. Besides, it feels like half the time, their Xtremes did little damage on the bosses (save for some select heroes). In MUA 2 I like how they put it where, regardless of what character you played, all the momentum you built went into a general pool and applied for everyone. And I like how there were different like Targeted, Clearing, and Guided. It really helped know what to do in certain situations. I felt like in MUA 1, the Xtremes were always hit or miss: some did really good against bosses, while others were kind of rendered useless because they're meant for standard enemies (like Spider-Man's Bungee Bash). I also like how the Fusion Mechanic also encouraged experimentation, as each character had unique Fusions with each other. I found myself switching heroes a lot to see the various Fusions. Another thing I liked about MUA 2 was how they handled Shield Credits. I like how it kind of goes into like, "separate accounts", for each hero. Y'know what I mean? Like say I collect 500,000 SC; that 500,000 goes to EACH character, not just into a pool that they share. So, I can upgrade Spider-Man and use all his credits, and then go to Wolverine and he still has all his 500,000 credits that I can spend for him. I know, it's not like some revolutionary or world changing mechanic, but I appreciated it so much. I found the farming aspect of MUA 1 a little too tedious (which is to be expected with farming, I know), but it always felt like no matter how much time I spent farming, it was never enough. I know it's a small thing, but I really enjoyed and appreciated that aspect of the game. I also like how you can change characters directly from the pause menu instead of at Shield Points, that was a nice touch (though I do miss the Announcer's Voice!). I also did genuinely enjoy the story and level designs, and boss battles.
Despite the flaws, I love both these games. They're what really opened my eyes to Marvel and comics in general. And I am forever grateful for them. I'm gonna definitely show them to my kids when they're old enough to play.
Hope they put this back on the PlayStation store
This is a great channel and specifically this video is awesome
Thanks I appreciate it.
Sorry for all the issues you had. Glad got to see the video though. I never finished this game. I will one day but I kinda had same issue, after picked my side and did one mission just got kinda bored or some as compared to first one I beat on I believe ps3 and psp.
A developer Katalina (I forgot her name) mentioned the Mua2 team really liked Emma Frost but the fans weren't asking for her. Katalina went on to say she pushed really hard to get Psylocke on there.
I suspect the rest of the team felt there were already enough X-Men characters on the roster.
Nice vid.
I hold the first one up high. For a Few reasons.
Has my favorite comic book character (Dr.Doom) and a few more or my favorites with Moon Knigh, Ghost Rider and Sabretooth.
The costumes and by extension the powers and abilities (which could shift based on costume).
The levels were more varied in theme and such.
Also always been a huge fan of Arcade and Murderworld.
The little bits of it such as the quiz. Which we always have a blast seeing what we remember.
2 was fine. It did have carnage (my favorite Spider-man villain) but felt like a step back in mechanic depth.
I liked the idea behind the Civil War setting and choosing a side but the choice really changed very little.
Not a bad game but for me 1 is the best, 3 is good (has its issues but kind of acts as a mix of elements from 1 and 2).
All said, I do miss that marvel Heroes. If it hadnt been taken down Id still be playing it. Huge roster, varied gameplay and characters.
Wasted potential.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks. I agree the first one holds up very well.
Hey, you're gonna do the third one? It would be cool. Keep up the good work!
Thanks. I am considering getting the third since I have never played it.
Cant wait for the marvel ultimate alliance 3 review
Great video and your right about the character roster I missed a lot of character from the first game but I had got lucky and got one of the last ps4 version that came with magneto and psylock and juggernaut and carnage but I would have preferred the character from the original game
Thanks. That's good you managed to get that version since from what I have heard it didn't last long on the market.
I wish Colossus was a playable character in this game.
I really really missed him!
Same here he was one of my favourites from the first game.
I only played through UA 2 once or twice. I remember the story not being as good and the game being glitchy. Like how auto level would always turn on so I could never level the characters the way I wanted. Not bad, but definitely not as good as the first one.
Great video, making work go by just a little faster!
Thanks. I agree it was nowhere near as good as the first game.
I loved the first game! Had so much fun i played the psp version i tried playing 2 psp and was put off by the quality the overall story is ok and i might pick it up agian on a different platform great video!
Thanks bro.
Loved this review. Personally I loved UA 2 but I feel like you should play the ps2 version because I gives me more UA 1 vibes
Thank you. I might pick it up on PS2 if I see it for a reasonable price. I have a massive PS2 collection and always like to add to it.
Brother I really need this game !
Black Panther WAS in MUA2! lol and he's just as fun to play as one of my favs. Also I dont know much about Songbird as a character but I love her look and powers.
DLC that no longer exists.
@@nordicwarriorgaming4953 exists on Xbox Game pass
I was happy with UA 2 but Raven had set up Galactus for the second game as the big boss. I expected to be going more into the cosmic side of Marvel in a sequel. Switching it to Civil War and having Galactus be a thow away line in Thor's dialog really upset me. UA 3 didn't do any better either with how they set up not only DLC but the main story and unlocks. In the base roster you get not one but four different Spider themed heroes 2 of which are just Better Versions of Spider-Man and the other is Venom, leaving Peter in the dust. The X-men Legends games and Ultimate Alliance are really the only ones I can say I will go back to and play over and over. I may replay UA 2 once in a blue moon, but once I finish it, I don't wanna play it again cause the story isnt that good.
I will give UA 2 one thing though. It told the Civil War story the best and truly had no sides. In the Comics, Ironman won thanks to Frank Castle being apart of Cap's side and tony using villains to help push his agenda, in the movies it was Cap who was right. Yet you dont have a true right or wrong in the game. Both roads lead to a bigger threat, which is what should have happened in the other Civil War stories.
Also yes Im writing this before watching cause I like to put down my thoughts about the game before I hear yours. It always is nice to have multiple sides to look at.
You know what really upsets me about Ultimate Alliance 3 it takes place in a universe similar to the MCU
Yeah that's one thing I'm dreading about that game. I can't stand the MCU personally.
I honestly don’t mind the story being more grounded because this is the marvel universe not every story needs to have some big cosmic threat it can and has told great stories that are grounded.
I can however understand being upset about not having galactus again because the first game did tease that, I have a feeling if they didn’t tease his return a bit more people would be open to this game being more grounded
Songbird can go to hell. This was a step back from the first game in a lot of ways. Bummer the 3rd installment was a switch exclusive,looks fun
LETS GOOOOO
I missed out on the re release with the dlc included 😢😢
If I had to give a ranking of both X-Men Legends games and all three Marvel Ultimate Alliance games from worse to best it would go like this
Worse: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
Bad: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
Good: X-Men Legends 1
Really Good: X-Men Legends 2
Best: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1
Id agree with that mostly. MUA 3 was garbage IMO. MUA 2 was flawed yet playable. XML 1 & 2 plus MUA 1 are all legendary and it could be argued which is the best out of them. God Bless.
@@nordicwarriorgaming4953 you too
Ultimate Alliance 2 was a good time but Ultimate Alliance 1 was way better but to me these games didn't stand a chance against X-Men Legends 1 and X-Men Legends 2 rise of Apocalypse
I agree.
Disagree with the X-men part, those games are shit and poorly made.
@@matthewbraith0411 if that's how you feel that's your opinion but for me i like the x-men legends games more but if that's how you feel that's how you feel
@@matthewbraith0411 How so?
My thoughts exactly legends 1 and 2 were top notch and ultimate alliance 1 is right up there with them the second ultimate alliance is cool but a lot of characters are hindered by only having a few powers to use
great video, you should really review justice league heroes some other time
Thanks. I will consider it.
MUA2 is way more fun than the first one
I actually preferred UA2 growing up but now I'm torn. I enjoy the story in the first game more but UA2 just plays better. UA2 was also my most played 360 have for a few years.
seems to be an infinite ammount of marvel and dc games on ps2
Yeah there are many.
its quite a random thing to like but i grew up on the skylanders games i know spyro fans dont like them i get why but the Vicarious games in that franchise were often a chore to play, very gimmicky different artstyle I think they can be a polarizing dev some people really like this level design
I remember my cousin had Skylanders. I think I played it once but I never owned it myself.
@@nordicwarriorgaming4953 the last games engine and developer was used on spyro reignited, and the new Crash stuff
Don't get me wrong marvel ultimate alliance 2 is a good game but it is not at all better than the first when it comes to the story
I agree I had a lot more fun with the first game but I do like both.
Hate to shatter your stance but in civil war sue did oppose read and it split the four ben was a fence sitter but eventually went with cap
I know but I still don't buy it, seems very contrived to me. Then again its a comic so its not exactly meant to be realistic or believable.
The only thing the 2nd game had over the 1st is graphics that’s it
I enjoyed this game a lot, but it did annoy me how bland ans linear the levels were. I loved the realistic graphics though and Captain America was based. Also never noticed that Ironman got the 90s Spider-Man voice actor.
Yh I didn't like the mechanics change at all. By end I was like, is that really all there is? They should have went full blown civil war story.
I just wish I downloaded the ps4 copy’s before they yanked them
Definitely need the trilogy now 🔥 this game was 0/10 for me, not enough cyclops
UA1 and UA2 are still better than UA3 and its iso8 bull crap
Well to be fair Marvel has always been the world outside your window and has always been a little more realistic than others like dc but yeah the levels in this game suck in comparison to the first game
I thought the tonal change from the first game was pretty shocking too. It kind of broke the emersion for me.
yeah this sequel was disappointing compared to its predecessor in my opinion.
I think Sue would be more inclined to join the other side if Namor was involved.
lol good point.
This is not better than xmen destiny