Is the new Izotope Trash worth the upgrade?

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Комментарии • 84

  • @phelper4554
    @phelper4554 6 месяцев назад +42

    Im really disappointed they killed features instead of making it better.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +9

      I dont understand that either. Maybe there will be a trash advanced / pro somewhere down the line since there's a new lite version as well.

    • @kevinkearney3836
      @kevinkearney3836 6 месяцев назад +8

      Sad Izotope run by marketing to noobs nowadays. It could have an “advanced mode” for power users and everyone would be happy, but no, that makes too much sense

    • @DaveChips
      @DaveChips 6 месяцев назад +2

      +1 ...They trashed trash... Il stick to T2 and Ohmicide for at least 10 more years as it seems...
      I somehow skipped Rift and Thermal bandwagon...

    • @i_jetlag
      @i_jetlag 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@DaveChips You are missing out. I own both of them and Rift is incredible.

  • @queenpurple8433
    @queenpurple8433 6 месяцев назад +9

    I still use trash 2, it would have been cool if they just kept it the same but optimized the cpu and upgraded sound quality

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +2

      I couldn't find out if anything was changed for the existing algorithms.

  • @lewbaldwin
    @lewbaldwin 6 месяцев назад +5

    looks great! was wondering if Trash was ever going to get a facelift

  • @hendricksam
    @hendricksam 6 месяцев назад +12

    Trash2 is clearly superior. Was gonna buy it if it became a competitor to Fabfilter's Saturn 2. But nah.

  • @SoundSignals
    @SoundSignals 6 месяцев назад +6

    No oversampling? big miss. All the most recent polular distortion/saturation plugins have it.

    • @Revoltyx
      @Revoltyx 6 месяцев назад

      Seriously! We have free and stock plugins that can do oversampling, how is this a missing feature?

  • @SingularityMedia
    @SingularityMedia 6 месяцев назад +2

    The GUI is sooooo much better than the original.

  • @redcollard3586
    @redcollard3586 6 месяцев назад

    The old version is still sooo good, this kinda looks like a must-buy to me!

  • @astrofreq
    @astrofreq 6 месяцев назад +7

    Sounds great to me. I have Trash 2, so having both could be useful.

    • @astrofreq
      @astrofreq 6 месяцев назад

      @@whitenoisestudio I see what you are saying. I'm in no rush to get it, but I think some of the new features look good.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +2

      I actually managed to get an answer to a different comment in here.
      But yeah, both make sense if you want to have those extra convolution sounds and use the much better GUI with those XY blends.

  • @TheGengenkila
    @TheGengenkila 6 месяцев назад +1

    It is a completely différent plug-in, the features are also différent tonality.
    It also absolutly has nothing to do with Fabfilter Saturn 2.
    Purely for sound design.
    I say yes.

  • @abletonclipper16
    @abletonclipper16 6 месяцев назад +2

    Really bugged out that there's no oversampling or GUI resizability.

  • @------YeahOK------
    @------YeahOK------ 6 месяцев назад +9

    If it ain't broke....don't fix it - will keep the old instead.

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile 6 месяцев назад +3

    Trash is a spectacular plug-in, my first from iZotope many years ago. I love it because I continue to discover with it after 20+ years, and that’s unusual. The new version looks enticing to me, especially as the interface has always been a bit of a letdown. I love the concept of quadrature pads, a very intuitive way to find musically relevant sounds. Going to my account now!

  • @Byron101_
    @Byron101_ 6 месяцев назад +1

    for the most tasks Quadrafuzz II does a great job, I must say.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +1

      Never underestimate that one. Cubase only though.

    • @nuvisionprinting
      @nuvisionprinting 6 месяцев назад

      I wish Steinberg should release one for all platforms.

  • @nuvisionprinting
    @nuvisionprinting 6 месяцев назад +1

    For what they are asking for it to be a regression in any factor I'd prefer to get Saturn, keep t2 & omnicide.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +2

      Would love to se an Ohmicide update.

    • @nuvisionprinting
      @nuvisionprinting 6 месяцев назад

      I believe they have packed up shop all their plugins are now free once you create an account.

  • @TypeZeroOfficial
    @TypeZeroOfficial 6 месяцев назад +1

    Looks (and sounds) more like a completely different plugin instead of an upgrade. Sounds nice though!

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад

      Right? Could have been easily called trash medium or something ;-)

  • @TinyBeasteast
    @TinyBeasteast 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your always clear review.
    Blue Cat's Destructor has exactly the same features.
    To be honest, I thought it was just a copycat with a different GUI.👀

  • @bco0t6
    @bco0t6 6 месяцев назад

    I still have trash 2 in the arsenal thankfully, although this does seem intuitive

  • @scottpeer
    @scottpeer 6 месяцев назад

    I think I'm going to wait this one out. The branding exercise that either they did or didn't do at Izotope is a disaster on this one. I think a lot of the sounds achievable with Trash (the new one, not the original, before Trash 2 ,_ see what I mean?) are likely attainable in ShaperTable from Kilohearts - and I have like three convolver reverbs, so I really don't need that. Best of luck Izotope - I think you may have swung and missed on this one.

  • @scottyelstromm881
    @scottyelstromm881 5 месяцев назад

    This looks more like a Baby audio knock off than a new Trash version. Trash 2 has so many more options for tweaking audio. Maybe Trash 2024 is for beginners and beat makers who want ease of use instead of deep control sets. Trash 2's complexities were its main strength.

  • @shogunarki1139
    @shogunarki1139 6 месяцев назад +6

    My opinion is it not worth it
    It somehow look less professional than how it look before
    I think that Izotope forgot why they even made the first plugin and people from that time was already kick out of the company

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +3

      I think the new look is much better, trash 2 has this 20 year old gui. I dont understand why functions have been cut.

  • @JoeySokol
    @JoeySokol 6 месяцев назад

    Nobody has mentioned the new FREE version Trash Lite!

  • @Fire-Toolz
    @Fire-Toolz 6 месяцев назад

    that funk stock music is very obviously a take on RHCP's sir psycho sexy

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад

      Absolutely. Not stock music though.

    • @Dekoherence-ii8pw
      @Dekoherence-ii8pw 6 месяцев назад

      It's not stock music. It is a section of sir psycho sexy, looped. It's the actual track but just with a section of it looped.@@whitenoisestudio

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад

      @Dekoherence-ii8pw yes on the first part, no on the second. I recreated it.

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
    @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 6 месяцев назад

    It looks good I suppose, some other plug-ins I've got already sounds similar or better in action. No offense but it's not making me want to buy izotopes.
    Regardless, good demo Marlon.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад

      Oh, for sure. Trash / Trrash 2 are classics of course; this new one, not so much.

  • @daviHuggMonster
    @daviHuggMonster 6 месяцев назад +1

    I won't be buying anything from izotope,native instruments (had only cheap and free stuff anyway) some old stuff still dope but naaah no thanks, already annoyed that they did not add a desktop version in RX9

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +1

      What do you mean with desktop version?

    • @daviHuggMonster
      @daviHuggMonster 6 месяцев назад

      RX8 had a stand alone app,since RX9 its only vst@@whitenoisestudio

    • @MrRacecourser
      @MrRacecourser 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@whitenoisestudiohe means a standalone version, which Isotope said they got rid of for whatever reason. It's on a blog post or something as to why the latest plugins no longer have standalone versions.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад

      yeah I was confused for a second since rx10 has the audio editor and the plugins in there.

  • @jacksolarmusicmastering
    @jacksolarmusicmastering 6 месяцев назад

    the worst of all is the high cpu/ when i change parametres in fl studio i cant play piano notes anymore .. Not having that problem with other vsts

    • @jacksolarmusicmastering
      @jacksolarmusicmastering 6 месяцев назад

      side note: so far it just doesn"t sound good to me somehow, the only good results i got from it so far was from putting it on kicks/subbass only

  • @tsbs7s
    @tsbs7s 6 месяцев назад

    So basically, they "trashed" the good old features and created a mix of Arturia's Coldfire and Fabfilter's Saturn. Still sceptical about this.

  • @NicoV81
    @NicoV81 6 месяцев назад

    They're working toghether with steinberg. CB Pro 12 could't load Trash2 on mac why so ever, sice it's a VST3 64 bit plugin. They want to force customers to upgrade to 3. No way! i'm done with Steinberg and izotope!

  • @mrbehindthemustache
    @mrbehindthemustache 6 месяцев назад +1

    It doesn't look like a plugin from izotope

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs 6 месяцев назад

    Go it for $7.25..and still kept trash 2😉

  • @IntheDAW
    @IntheDAW 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great overview. Unfortunately this is a update i will pass on.

  • @mthomas1091
    @mthomas1091 6 месяцев назад

    Do the Trash2 presets, by chance, still work here?

    • @eartho
      @eartho 6 месяцев назад +2

      absolutely not.

    • @kirbs3192
      @kirbs3192 6 месяцев назад

      that sucks...so you would need both plugins installed?@@eartho

  • @__________Troll__________
    @__________Troll__________ 6 месяцев назад

    *Compared to Trash 2, this version is trying to live up to its name*

  • @leftovercode
    @leftovercode 6 месяцев назад +2

    no thanks. thanks for the review though =o)

  • @axoplanet6081
    @axoplanet6081 6 месяцев назад

    Trash2 was way better. And today I would buy Saturn2 or Rift.

  • @kuhliloach8842
    @kuhliloach8842 6 месяцев назад

    this trash should be free as a great way to get users into iZotope, while leaving Trash 2 at a premium price and giving it support

  • @richertz
    @richertz 6 месяцев назад

    Love some of the products but I think "Soundwide " have lost it currently.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +1

      It’s all native instruments now. Sound wise has been ditched.

    • @richertz
      @richertz 6 месяцев назад

      @@whitenoisestudioI know it was sarcastic after what’s being happening with the state of the company and Dirks departure.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +1

      We need [sarcastic] [/sarcastic] tags ;-)

  • @HoldMyBeerFam
    @HoldMyBeerFam 6 месяцев назад +2

    Its trash i rather have trash2. Oh hell

  • @ScottMcFadyen
    @ScottMcFadyen 6 месяцев назад +2

    The vibes are off with iZotope rn.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah maybe. I havent been wow-ed by them in a while.

  • @DennisNy75
    @DennisNy75 6 месяцев назад

    Imma just gonna stick with what works .. this isnt the best imo. Had to wait a decade to be disappointed. Thsnkgod i still have trash 2

  • @timbeneton8068
    @timbeneton8068 6 месяцев назад

    Trash became a trash !

  • @djkurtstudio
    @djkurtstudio 6 месяцев назад

    Looks like a downgrade with some features I don't need. I won't be getting the upgrade.

  • @arranger1977
    @arranger1977 6 месяцев назад +1

    a non scaleable vst in 2024 is really trash. thumbs down!

  • @deadlyrobot5179
    @deadlyrobot5179 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's 100% a downgrade.

  • @buzzfunk
    @buzzfunk 6 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely terrible. NI itself went from innovator to the Guitar Center of DJ software. These are a ton better plugs out there now. Save your money....

  • @1wibble230
    @1wibble230 6 месяцев назад

    Huge disappointment , the much older Saturn 2 is far superior