I know this video is quite old but I just found it today and the part about *not* sitting up straight really helped me a lot. Gave me almost immediate relief to my back pain - so thank you very much for that!
3:17 "the unhealthiest part of working at our desk is the fact we are stationary for extremely long periods of time. What's more important is to change it up as frequently as possible." YES - this so much. as i was young and got into school, everybody said "sit straight and dont move around so much" --- worst advice ever, changing it up actually never gave me any problems - trying to sit "right and straight" for long periods of time started the pains and troubles.
@@uroboric you will inevitably slouch as soon as you concentrate on something else, better not to worry about the problem at all and just relax levus.co
This is the best ergonomic video I’ve seen on RUclips! Never believe anyone that says 90 degrees anywhere. This guy did not he spoke about where your keyboard should be and how bad drawers are. Love this guy I subscribed to his channel let’s see what more he has to share but as an ergonomic and back care consultant for over 10 years this was a good starting point for most people. I give him a solid A as a grade on this video. I’m sure if it was longer and more detailed I would probably give this guy an A+ . For more information on the way to sit see the N.A.S.A. Study on “ Neutral Posture “
This is the single most informative video on desk ergonomics that I have had the fortune to run across; I particularly appreciate the wisdom of using a wrist rest at the palms rather than the wrists, and changing things up, moving about from time to time. Excellent video!
I have just discovered your channel. So far, I am really impressed with the content, delivery, and practical information that you teach. Keep up the good work. I think I can improve my posture based on your video, especially the foot rest. After one hour at the keyboard my legs hurt at the edge of the chair due to pressure. Sometimes the nerves are compressed and I get numbness in the lower leg. I am now ordering the footrest as a result of your video. Thank you!!
The slight tilt has made such a difference in the way I feel after a day of sitting! I definitely used to be one of those people who sit up completely straight. They should really teach this in high school or college haha.
Thank you so much for putting this out there. I changed the way I was sitting at my desk and holy cow, my back feels better than it has in months. I want to cry! Thanks again!!
This chair was fairly easy to put together, the instructions were clear and I was about to follow along with no issues at all. It took me about 20 minutes to assemble. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx5hPALGI87E991DRmXev8PUFJGrrRcONS I did stuff the back of the chair with a pillow so it wouldn’t be so hollow after taking all the pieces out but that’s just a personal preference. I also added a pillow for lumbar support because although this is a great chair and is comfortable, it’s not necessarily the best if you’re sitting 10+ hrs a day wfh but in all honesty for the price, I didn’t mind at all. It looks great in my space and easily adjusts the height when needed.
Yo, this is life-changing actually.. I leaned my chair back a little and it's way better & more chill. With it I had to bring my monitor closer so I can actually see stuff better on there (otherwise it'd be to much and too small) & the same with my keyboard, but all my nausea & headaches are gone (for now) + it feels better to be leaned back, instead of fully upright or even hinged over to the front (accidentally) after longer periods of time.. I kinda feel stupid now, not having thought about this for such a long time.. :D Damn.
Yup, I know exactly what you mean. Btw, now that you have your chairs height, seat, back, and arm rest adjusted economically for your height to an presumably fixed table height...not only moving your monitor closer but make sure the monitor height is correct. When you look straight (such that your head is not looking too far up or down) that your eyes are approximately 2"-3" down from the top of the monitor. This reduces neck strain. I've seen people who had their monitor so low that if they looked straight ahead they would see pass the top of the monitor. These people would be looking down at their monitor all day and pulling their neck muscles. Of course, then there are those who are looking up all day too. LOL
Top Benefits of Buying Foot Rest Under Desk Proper posture and a comfortable seating arrangement are critical when operating at a desk, yet many individuals are ignorant of how their seating choices influence their health. Sadly, discomfort in the spine, pelvis, and feet is all too prevalent among office workers. You may assist ease this pain and avoid future suffering by making a few easy changes. An under-foot desk rest is one such modification you may attempt. The advantages of an ergonomic footrest vary depending on who is using it, their body type, and any previous health concerns. Below are a few of the most prevalent advantages. vISIT: intertainews.com/top-benefits-of-buying-foot-rest-under-desk/
Great Video! I'm happy to know that I have been actually doing everything you are recommending. Makes me feel better that I am positioning myself correctly during my long days at my desk.
Top Benefits of Buying Foot Rest Under Desk Proper posture and a comfortable seating arrangement are critical when operating at a desk, yet many individuals are ignorant of how their seating choices influence their health. Sadly, discomfort in the spine, pelvis, and feet is all too prevalent among office workers. You may assist ease this pain and avoid future suffering by making a few easy changes. An under-foot desk rest is one such modification you may attempt. The advantages of an ergonomic footrest vary depending on who is using it, their body type, and any previous health concerns. Below are a few of the most prevalent advantages. vISIT: intertainews.com/top-benefits-of-buying-foot-rest-under-desk/
1:28 *i can't setup it that way you are saying to. My chair has "hand-rests" on sides and it blocks me to go closer to the table. So i have to be lower so I can go closed to the table and my hand-rests are under the table. How to solve this? its so fucked*
thanks man, really good video. I am sitting absolute horribly and I have already deformation issues, pain etc. ppl need to pay attention to sitting at PCs, especialy if they do it for longer time per day, just like I did, sometimes 12-14 hours a day... with minimum movement or AFK time... do NOT do this folks, trust me, learn on my mistakes.
This video is so important! Being a college student, I spend a lot of time doing homework at desks/tables. It’s so uncomfortable for me to do homework using the desk and chair in my room because my chair height is too low, so I have to do homework outside of my room to be productive.
Thank you for the video. Let me share some points on ergonomics which I found out empirically in 20+yrs of work at the computer. I personally use it now and it helps a lot. 1. Use a standing desk always. And a bar stool with a medium -hard seat and spine. 2. Use a custom table with a round indent which helps you keep your elbows in a resting position. Or use elbow supports for both hands. This will save your wrists and your trapezium from permanent stress. 3. Do not use reclining chair because your head will intuitively try to keep an upright position which will stretch out your neck causing you osteoporosis issues. 4. 60-70cm from your eyes to the display not more or less. If less - you will become near-sighted, if further - you will stretch out your neck to see closer. And again have issues with neck vertebrae and muscles. 5. Use feet support for you bar stool, preferably with two height levels, so you can change leg position and relieve stress on leg, butt and lower spine. These points did cost me a lot, please at least consider using some of them.
@0:55, I figured this out awhile back. My desk is way too high for me but I'm stuck with it for the time being. When I found out/realized that I should make my arms closer to 90 and it was causing me some aches and pains. This video is pretty fantastic overall. #5 is also one that's great because changing positions frequently is probably the thing that can make it the easiest to stay at a desk for a long time.
i don't have a setup yet but when i am going to buy the new equipments for my setup i will definetly take care of these things thanks for shring good info this is the only yt cannel i like which doesen't shows you the fancy stuff but helpful in the long run. Thanks for sharing good info
My boss used to scold me when i sat like this going inside the desk. I always felt compfortable doing this and now I know it's the right way. + I never listened to my boss on this though. xD
A good laptop stand will work in one or two locations. A great laptop stand will work on your desk, your table top, your couch, your bed, and even your car or truck.www.amazon.com/dp/B08CCCHJDX
I’m going to try this at work.I’ve been having back pain and wrist and shoulder pain. I think my problem is my chair and the arm rests I’ve been using. I will update how it works for me. Thank you!
"Task" chairs (typing chairs) didn't have arms. Secretaries for centuries have known they were useless. Big Powerful Executive chairs might have a reason for them.
Impressed by your channel, very good work. Working in ergonomic chair with hand written text, I mean, writing in paper, is different and I can´t find any video about that!
My main issue with this, and something I've never been really able to figure out short of putting a keyboard on my lap, is that unlike you and I imagine most people, I have really long arms and my elbows stop just slightly above my waist. It's basically impossible for my arms not to be angled up even if my thighs are literally touching the bottom of a thin desk. Especially when leaning slightly back.
@@gradeA50 Yeah lol. The only real solution that I've found is a standing desk. Anything else requires a super custom solution. You could also try a leaning stool but most of those are designed to be used with a standing desk anyway.
@@Syncratci yeah I wish I could stand for long periods! I just decided to give up mechanical keyboards and stick with thin ones and I’m getting a thinner desktop to at least optimize that space above my legs. The struggles of having long monkey arms and a short torso lol.
Same problem here. i'm trying to lower my keyboard tray about 3 inches so it's practically in my lap, but even then it feels like my hands want to be lower lol.
Another tip that you can alternate from time to time, go wireless with your keyboard and use it as lapboard with tilted back and one leg over the other. Works wonders to relieve shoulder and wrist pain from previous positions.
Love your videos David. I'm kinda OCD so your minimalist taste really appeals to me. Great editing, everything looks great and the info is clear and concise. Good luck with your channel, you've earned a sub here.
Thanks, excellent video. 👍 I have a used computer desk unit, paired with a desk riser, for any standing needs. As well as, a flat-pack writing desk for sitting and for work that needs an open desk. While sitting, I have a foot rocker, so I can fidget with my feet. ✌️&❤️
The drawer desk problem is quite different as it doesn’t affect the distance between my arms and knees but makes the area where I sit more claustrophobic
1:56 My forearms actually rest on my legs, I no space to work with, not even a small a desk can fit in between! I guess I have long upper arms? What do I do? :(
Probably because this is based on what is comfortable and not following some rigid ergonomics "guidelines". Listen to your body. It will tell you if you are doing something incorrectly for a long time. Some people are just predisposed to getting back pains or other illnesses no matter what they do and should probably exercise more.
I loved this video. Thank you! Just a feedback, ok?: You forgot to say in 3:32 that the correct is to stand after 40-50 minutes of work. So the person stands for 5 minutes (like get a glass of water, etc...), then the person is allowed to get back for more 40-50 minutes of work or study in computer. By the way, can I ask you a video about how to study with a correct posture? Sometimes I think that, the way we bend our neck/cervical spine to read books/printed articles, it can cause health problems and even herniated discs on our cervical spine!
you can develop a bad habit of leaning on one side, causing possible inflammation in elbow.. happened to me. plus sides are that it relieves pressure from neck/shoulders area and wrists/ fingers depending on your writing position. I'd say definitely use them, but be careful not to lean on them too much!
What is your opinion on armrests? One might assume that using a chair without armrests would eventually make the person's neck or shoulders tired, or just cause general discomfort. On the other hand, the armrests might be too much in the way and be hitting the table constantly, which is also problematic.
Incorrect! Chairs without armrests will not make your neck & shoulders tired. As a matter of fact remove the armrest (if possible) or have it at the lowest setting to allow your elbows to float and naturally hanging by your side. If your elbow rests on the armrest in anyways such that it raises your shoulder the slightest bit means your shoulder/neck muscles are tightened. Overtime and under stressful work conditions, you'll have neck & shoulder problems.Then, like it says in #2, adjust your chairs height to the table and not to your legs/feet.
1:28 look at his arms. How do people play like that? When I play I like to stretch out my hands and put my elbows on the table because it is more comfortable to me
It is a clever note to emphasize that your desk height and your chair height are related. In the ideal position your arms are easily placed horizontally in your desk, while your feet are comfortable on the floor. But fixed standard desks may prevent us to seat properly. That's why standing desks are in high demand. Manhattan Office Design #OfficeFurniture #NYC
my chair armrests dont fit under my desk so my keyb/mouse are too far away to be comfortable, and if i lower my chair its too low so my arms pinch the desk :/
Abek saw that shit off. Maybe it can be unscrewed and dettached, have you checked it? If not, I would really take that shit off by "force". (oh, and english is not my main lang. but I think u got it)
1:30 "should be perfectly in line to work with your keyboard and mouse". What is perfect for one might not be perfect for another. I'm curious about what it means to be perfectly in line? Is it the particular angle of your elbows at 1:30? 60ish-70ish degree angle? Or is there more to it?
Well, I'm looking for the best way to choose a standing desk Converter- Height Adjustable, any recommendations will be appreciated, how tall I'm? 5" Jacqueline
I recommend the Autonomous Smart Desk 2, its around $400 dollars depending on the size and shape of the tabletop but is extremely high quality for the price.
A good laptop stand will work in one or two locations. A great laptop stand will work on your desk, your table top, your couch, your bed, and even your car or truck.www.amazon.com/dp/B08CCCHJDX
I like how this video makes point which are not found in any other video. This was probably made through some experience and professional-article reading than through watching all those copy-paste youtube videos
I had spine surgery in 2011 and spent several months in therapy to even learn how to walk properly. Most of the stuff I learned was proper posture and stuff, but I remember the therapist was saying while sitting at a desk and stuff, more important part really was to not strain your back. To be frank, I do a super, super low lean at my work desk. It's an L-shape and both my elbows are actually on the desk with my wrist perfectly straight. When folks tell me to "straight myself up" or else I'll injure my back, I don't think they realize the opposite has a much higher chance of happening. Great video btw, I would love to learn how to edit videos like you but alas, it's merely a hobby for me.
Top Benefits of Buying Foot Rest Under Desk Proper posture and a comfortable seating arrangement are critical when operating at a desk, yet many individuals are ignorant of how their seating choices influence their health. Sadly, discomfort in the spine, pelvis, and feet is all too prevalent among office workers. You may assist ease this pain and avoid future suffering by making a few easy changes. An under-foot desk rest is one such modification you may attempt. The advantages of an ergonomic footrest vary depending on who is using it, their body type, and any previous health concerns. Below are a few of the most prevalent advantages. vISIT: intertainews.com/top-benefits-of-buying-foot-rest-under-desk/
You forgot to mention how much distance you need to maintain between the monitor and chair (I know it all depends on the size of the monitor and resolution) But there is some recommended distance so that your eyes don't strain over a long period of time!
Nice video, I always try to sit up straight but then slowly hunch over after a while without even noticing. So definitely picked up some good info here. Thanks for the video David.
You have the keyboard too far away from you, therefore needing to hold up your arm and thus being "forced" to use some kind of palm support. _Not_ using a wrist rest, or however you call it, but having the keyboard closer to you, so that you do not need to stretch out and hold the forearm would solve this and be a much better long-term solution, but interestingly this simple and logic posture is seldom recommended.
*HELP PLEASE😫🙏🙏💓* I need to buy the same _adjustable table and chair_ as shown in this video. *_★From where I can buy?_* _Someone give me the online link to buy this table and chair._ *Please😫🙏🙏💓* *I beg.* _I work continuously 8 hours a day on computers and there is backache, neckache and all._
I wish I had seen this video 3 months back. Now with a stationary posture of many hours a day I have screwed my back so badly that it pains everyday. I don't know if it will ever be normal again but guys just don't sit in the same posture all day and work. Life comes first before work, do a little walk every 20-30 mins, rest your shoulders on the chair don't bend forward, the typing position should be as shown in the video and screen should be straight , if you have a laptop then buy a wireless keyboard and mouse so that you don't need to adjust either arm or neck. A little investment can save your lifetime of money that you'll spend to recover from back pain...take this seriously and life will be less harder. Hope it helps.
Standing is significantly "healthier" than sitting. Even if you feel like your "Standing still", your body is constantly micro adjusting so that you don't fall over. This micro adjustment helps keep blood moving, preventing clots from forming and allowing stabilizer muscles to be used.
Norio Takemoto When you sit, your muscles are supported by the chair, so they aren't used much and are inactive. That's why standing is healthier. When you stand, your muscles are still being used to hold you up.
I've got a standing desk, and I find I move around a lot when using it, especially if I'm listening to music. If I have my phone in my pocket, Google fit actually picks up quite a lot of steps while I'm standing at my desk. :)
I bought the cheapest Ikea standing desk and I love it. Just like you when I am listening to music while standing I can move about and do pelvis thrusts lol xD
@@cocoshort6528 it is a bit more than a chair and desk :) but sure, as long as you are sitting in a chair and not lying down there are cheaper options. I for one couldn't find anything in the price range of our recliner, you?
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I know this video is quite old but I just found it today and the part about *not* sitting up straight really helped me a lot. Gave me almost immediate relief to my back pain - so thank you very much for that!
One of my hole fucking year living with pain in my lower back to finally find a good video on how to sit again.
Thank you so much I mean it.
When you don't even plug in your monitor so it looks clean AF
I know!! If only everything was wireless. Gotta drill holes into my next desk to hide all the cables.
Wich ASUS Monitor Version is? So Perfect your work!
David Zhang try doing a video of you not wearing socks
Also, is that just an unplugged mechanical keyboard haha
You can monitor the cleanliness.
3:17 "the unhealthiest part of working at our desk is the fact we are stationary for extremely long periods of time. What's more important is to change it up as frequently as possible." YES - this so much.
as i was young and got into school, everybody said "sit straight and dont move around so much" --- worst advice ever, changing it up actually never gave me any problems - trying to sit "right and straight" for long periods of time started the pains and troubles.
Yah and my butt aches when i do it
Cus our chairs are made of wood
If I'm trying to sit straight, it's like a workout for my back
@@uroboric you will inevitably slouch as soon as you concentrate on something else, better not to worry about the problem at all and just relax
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I got spinal stenosis due to these "advices".. yeah, fuck you (not you lol)
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That looks like a really good chair, I like how the padding just hugs your back.
Any idea of the model, perhaps you bought one?
IKEA volmar
This is the best ergonomic video I’ve seen on RUclips! Never believe anyone that says 90 degrees anywhere. This guy did not he spoke about where your keyboard should be and how bad drawers are. Love this guy I subscribed to his channel let’s see what more he has to share but as an ergonomic and back care consultant for over 10 years this was a good starting point for most people. I give him a solid A as a grade on this video. I’m sure if it was longer and more detailed I would probably give this guy an A+ . For more information on the way to sit see the N.A.S.A. Study on “ Neutral Posture “
Well shot, filmed, edited. Always good to brush up on ergonomic considering the amount of time most people spend in front of a desk with a computer
This is the single most informative video on desk ergonomics that I have had the fortune to run across; I particularly appreciate the wisdom of using a wrist rest at the palms rather than the wrists, and changing things up, moving about from time to time. Excellent video!
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its true this guy knows hes shit
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Finally I can prove why desk with drawers are a bad choice to everyone
i have drawers on my left side and what? why is bad? im still under the desk
@@ArcusCo same and I don't think it is bad
@@ArcusCo i can't manage to get under the desk without having to put myself very low and it sucks.
@@ArcusCo side is okay but if drawers press thigh it's bed. i think u need check 1:47. check the dialog
Finally I can prove why wrist rest is a scam
This is really helpful, was getting ready to buy a desk and was convinced one with drawers is better. God bless you abundantly.
I have just discovered your channel. So far, I am really impressed with the content, delivery, and practical information that you teach. Keep up the good work. I think I can improve my posture based on your video, especially the foot rest. After one hour at the keyboard my legs hurt at the edge of the chair due to pressure. Sometimes the nerves are compressed and I get numbness in the lower leg. I am now ordering the footrest as a result of your video. Thank you!!
The slight tilt has made such a difference in the way I feel after a day of sitting! I definitely used to be one of those people who sit up completely straight. They should really teach this in high school or college haha.
Whats name / model your chair?
Thank you so much for putting this out there. I changed the way I was sitting at my desk and holy cow, my back feels better than it has in months. I want to cry! Thanks again!!
This chair was fairly easy to put together, the instructions were clear and I was about to follow along with no issues at all. It took me about 20 minutes to assemble. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx5hPALGI87E991DRmXev8PUFJGrrRcONS I did stuff the back of the chair with a pillow so it wouldn’t be so hollow after taking all the pieces out but that’s just a personal preference. I also added a pillow for lumbar support because although this is a great chair and is comfortable, it’s not necessarily the best if you’re sitting 10+ hrs a day wfh but in all honesty for the price, I didn’t mind at all. It looks great in my space and easily adjusts the height when needed.
This info was brought to you by years of doing it wrong. Let's all take a moment to appreciate that.
really cool video ! think this is a really important topic :)
Thanks! Yeah I agree. I sit way too much in front of the computer. So I'm always trying to optimize the experience.
Shutup Arn
And if he did a video on fighting bots you would think robots are a really important topic?
After using these tips I have felt a lot of comfortable
Yo, this is life-changing actually.. I leaned my chair back a little and it's way better & more chill. With it I had to bring my monitor closer so I can actually see stuff better on there (otherwise it'd be to much and too small) & the same with my keyboard, but all my nausea & headaches are gone (for now) + it feels better to be leaned back, instead of fully upright or even hinged over to the front (accidentally) after longer periods of time.. I kinda feel stupid now, not having thought about this for such a long time.. :D Damn.
Yup, I know exactly what you mean. Btw, now that you have your chairs height, seat, back, and arm rest adjusted economically for your height to an presumably fixed table height...not only moving your monitor closer but make sure the monitor height is correct. When you look straight (such that your head is not looking too far up or down) that your eyes are approximately 2"-3" down from the top of the monitor. This reduces neck strain. I've seen people who had their monitor so low that if they looked straight ahead they would see pass the top of the monitor. These people would be looking down at their monitor all day and pulling their neck muscles. Of course, then there are those who are looking up all day too. LOL
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Top Benefits of Buying Foot Rest Under Desk
Proper posture and a comfortable seating arrangement are critical when operating at a desk, yet many individuals are ignorant of how their seating choices influence their health. Sadly, discomfort in the spine, pelvis, and feet is all too prevalent among office workers. You may assist ease this pain and avoid future suffering by making a few easy changes. An under-foot desk rest is one such modification you may attempt. The advantages of an ergonomic footrest vary depending on who is using it, their body type, and any previous health concerns. Below are a few of the most prevalent advantages.
vISIT: intertainews.com/top-benefits-of-buying-foot-rest-under-desk/
Thanks for mentioning the importance of switching positions. It's so important not to stay stationary for too long.
Great Video! I'm happy to know that I have been actually doing everything you are recommending. Makes me feel better that I am positioning myself correctly during my long days at my desk.
Top Benefits of Buying Foot Rest Under Desk
Proper posture and a comfortable seating arrangement are critical when operating at a desk, yet many individuals are ignorant of how their seating choices influence their health. Sadly, discomfort in the spine, pelvis, and feet is all too prevalent among office workers. You may assist ease this pain and avoid future suffering by making a few easy changes. An under-foot desk rest is one such modification you may attempt. The advantages of an ergonomic footrest vary depending on who is using it, their body type, and any previous health concerns. Below are a few of the most prevalent advantages.
vISIT: intertainews.com/top-benefits-of-buying-foot-rest-under-desk/
This has been the most to the point, informative video I've ever seen on RUclips.
1:41 Recently bought the very desk featured; * flips desk *
whats it called
_Paws_ did the same
😂 sorry to laugh at your expense but I'm imagining me doing the same
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1:28 *i can't setup it that way you are saying to. My chair has "hand-rests" on sides and it blocks me to go closer to the table. So i have to be lower so I can go closed to the table and my hand-rests are under the table. How to solve this? its so fucked*
How do you make those lines at 0:05 or the (back, wrist rests, seat) names/pointers at 0:10? Any help would be appreciated!
I use after effects for the animations. Check out this for the call out animations. And the lines were a manual process.
This. ruclips.net/video/faIbaZClF6c/видео.html
Great, thank you!
2 point line and parent the ends to points tracked to the elbow and hip. repeat for all other areas
thanks man, really good video.
I am sitting absolute horribly and I have already deformation issues, pain etc. ppl need to pay attention to sitting at PCs, especialy if they do it for longer time per day, just like I did, sometimes 12-14 hours a day... with minimum movement or AFK time...
do NOT do this folks, trust me, learn on my mistakes.
This video is so important! Being a college student, I spend a lot of time doing homework at desks/tables. It’s so uncomfortable for me to do homework using the desk and chair in my room because my chair height is too low, so I have to do homework outside of my room to be productive.
I repeated this video so many times when I was setting up my productive environment. This video is very helpful.
Can you do a laptop edition. Typically find myself in some odd ass positions when I'm playing online games
Thank you for the video. Let me share some points on ergonomics which I found out empirically in 20+yrs of work at the computer. I personally use it now and it helps a lot.
1. Use a standing desk always. And a bar stool with a medium -hard seat and spine.
2. Use a custom table with a round indent which helps you keep your elbows in a resting position. Or use elbow supports for both hands. This will save your wrists and your trapezium from permanent stress.
3. Do not use reclining chair because your head will intuitively try to keep an upright position which will stretch out your neck causing you osteoporosis issues.
4. 60-70cm from your eyes to the display not more or less. If less - you will become near-sighted, if further - you will stretch out your neck to see closer. And again have issues with neck vertebrae and muscles.
5. Use feet support for you bar stool, preferably with two height levels, so you can change leg position and relieve stress on leg, butt and lower spine.
These points did cost me a lot, please at least consider using some of them.
Osteoporosis is a wrong word, I meant - Osteochondritis
@0:55, I figured this out awhile back. My desk is way too high for me but I'm stuck with it for the time being. When I found out/realized that I should make my arms closer to 90 and it was causing me some aches and pains.
This video is pretty fantastic overall. #5 is also one that's great because changing positions frequently is probably the thing that can make it the easiest to stay at a desk for a long time.
what i did to solve this problem was to get an underdesk. because most chairs are not high enough.
i don't have a setup yet but when i am going to buy the new equipments for my setup i will definetly take care of these things thanks for shring good info this is the only yt cannel i like which doesen't shows you the fancy stuff but helpful in the long run.
Thanks for sharing good info
My boss used to scold me when i sat like this going inside the desk. I always felt compfortable doing this and now I know it's the right way. + I never listened to my boss on this though. xD
A good laptop stand will work in one or two locations. A great laptop stand will work on your desk, your table top, your couch, your bed, and even your car or truck.www.amazon.com/dp/B08CCCHJDX
I’m going to try this at work.I’ve been having back pain and wrist and shoulder pain. I think my problem is my chair and the arm rests I’ve been using. I will update how it works for me. Thank you!
finally removed my chair's arms after years of frustration
"Task" chairs (typing chairs) didn't have arms. Secretaries for centuries have known they were useless. Big Powerful Executive chairs might have a reason for them.
Impressed by your channel, very good work. Working in ergonomic chair with hand written text, I mean, writing in paper, is different and I can´t find any video about that!
My main issue with this, and something I've never been really able to figure out short of putting a keyboard on my lap, is that unlike you and I imagine most people, I have really long arms and my elbows stop just slightly above my waist. It's basically impossible for my arms not to be angled up even if my thighs are literally touching the bottom of a thin desk. Especially when leaning slightly back.
This is literally the struggle of my life. Had to comment even though it's old haha
@@gradeA50 Yeah lol. The only real solution that I've found is a standing desk. Anything else requires a super custom solution. You could also try a leaning stool but most of those are designed to be used with a standing desk anyway.
@@Syncratci yeah I wish I could stand for long periods! I just decided to give up mechanical keyboards and stick with thin ones and I’m getting a thinner desktop to at least optimize that space above my legs.
The struggles of having long monkey arms and a short torso lol.
@@Astron0 let me know if anyone finds a good chair/desk combo for this situation.
Same problem here. i'm trying to lower my keyboard tray about 3 inches so it's practically in my lap, but even then it feels like my hands want to be lower lol.
Another tip that you can alternate from time to time, go wireless with your keyboard and use it as lapboard with tilted back and one leg over the other. Works wonders to relieve shoulder and wrist pain from previous positions.
Love your videos David. I'm kinda OCD so your minimalist taste really appeals to me. Great editing, everything looks great and the info is clear and concise.
Good luck with your channel, you've earned a sub here.
Thanks, excellent video. 👍 I have a used computer desk unit, paired with a desk riser, for any standing needs. As well as, a flat-pack writing desk for sitting and for work that needs an open desk. While sitting, I have a foot rocker, so I can fidget with my feet.
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The drawer desk problem is quite different as it doesn’t affect the distance between my arms and knees but makes the area where I sit more claustrophobic
That's just great content! Thanks for sharing these tips David!
Me sitting like an upside down prawn: "hmm interesting"
1:56 My forearms actually rest on my legs, I no space to work with, not even a small a desk can fit in between! I guess I have long upper arms? What do I do? :(
nice, great channel, deserve way more subs dude
Thanks!
What's the name of that sit/stand desk at 3:10?
Shit, I've been doing all the right things without really paying attention to them.
姚鹤斌 same. I'm kinda creeped out
Probably because this is based on what is comfortable and not following some rigid ergonomics "guidelines".
Listen to your body. It will tell you if you are doing something incorrectly for a long time.
Some people are just predisposed to getting back pains or other illnesses no matter what they do and should probably exercise more.
saame
Im too, now I have osteochondrosis and scoliosis. I wanna die.
I loved this video. Thank you! Just a feedback, ok?: You forgot to say in 3:32 that the correct is to stand after 40-50 minutes of work. So the person stands for 5 minutes (like get a glass of water, etc...), then the person is allowed to get back for more 40-50 minutes of work or study in computer.
By the way, can I ask you a video about how to study with a correct posture? Sometimes I think that, the way we bend our neck/cervical spine to read books/printed articles, it can cause health problems and even herniated discs on our cervical spine!
Thank you for making this video. I was getting quite frustrated with trying to figure out how to adjust the height and about to ship my Ergorest back.
What is the name of the chair in this video pls answer? (model, shopping link e.t.c)
Is there a reason or any downside to having chair arms? I notice he didn’t have them on his chair.
you can develop a bad habit of leaning on one side, causing possible inflammation in elbow.. happened to me. plus sides are that it relieves pressure from neck/shoulders area and wrists/ fingers depending on your writing position. I'd say definitely use them, but be careful not to lean on them too much!
TheJociman thank you! I’ve been looking for this answer, I will try not to put too much pressure on them thanks
No. Arms are ok, he has reviews on chairs with arms. You just have to keep it aligned like showed in the video.
What's the name of the adjustable desk at 3:07
What is your opinion on armrests? One might assume that using a chair without armrests would eventually make the person's neck or shoulders tired, or just cause general discomfort. On the other hand, the armrests might be too much in the way and be hitting the table constantly, which is also problematic.
Incorrect! Chairs without armrests will not make your neck & shoulders tired. As a matter of fact remove the armrest (if possible) or have it at the lowest setting to allow your elbows to float and naturally hanging by your side. If your elbow rests on the armrest in anyways such that it raises your shoulder the slightest bit means your shoulder/neck muscles are tightened. Overtime and under stressful work conditions, you'll have neck & shoulder problems.Then, like it says in #2, adjust your chairs height to the table and not to your legs/feet.
I always come back to this video to remind myself to sit in the right way. Best guide ever!
1:28 look at his arms. How do people play like that? When I play I like to stretch out my hands and put my elbows on the table because it is more comfortable to me
2:28 how can someone hold their arms like that for longer than 1 minute?
No wonder I always have wrist and shoulder pain I’m doing everything wrong! Lol thank you so much for this video 👌
Awesome video! Mostly aware, but the reaffirmation of the smooth calming vid was good.
Thank you David so much for making this video :)
np! glad you like it
It is a clever note to emphasize that your desk height and your chair height are related. In the ideal position your arms are easily placed horizontally in your desk, while your feet are comfortable on the floor. But fixed standard desks may prevent us to seat properly. That's why standing desks are in high demand.
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I am about to saw 3.5 inches off the legs of my ancient solid oak teachers desk to fix this (short dude here).
my chair armrests dont fit under my desk so my keyb/mouse are too far away to be comfortable, and if i lower my chair its too low so my arms pinch the desk :/
Abek saw that shit off. Maybe it can be unscrewed and dettached, have you checked it? If not, I would really take that shit off by "force". (oh, and english is not my main lang. but I think u got it)
unscrew the armrests
@Çerastes no, moron. The armrests on the chair are supposed to go under the desk.
@Çerastes no, fucking moron. The armrests go under the desk and your arms sit on the desk at a 90° angle.
@@your_average_cultured_dude Society would be enriched by your nonexistence.
1:30 "should be perfectly in line to work with your keyboard and mouse".
What is perfect for one might not be perfect for another. I'm curious about what it means to be perfectly in line? Is it the particular angle of your elbows at 1:30? 60ish-70ish degree angle? Or is there more to it?
Well, I'm looking for the best way to choose a standing desk Converter- Height Adjustable, any recommendations will be appreciated, how tall I'm? 5"
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Your 5 inches tall???
Try ikea tyghe
I recommend the Autonomous Smart Desk 2, its around $400 dollars depending on the size and shape of the tabletop but is extremely high quality for the price.
A good laptop stand will work in one or two locations. A great laptop stand will work on your desk, your table top, your couch, your bed, and even your car or truck.www.amazon.com/dp/B08CCCHJDX
Amazing video, to the point and very dense in information and visual examples. Thank you!
me sitting on a kitchen chair 👁🗨👄👁🗨
I like how this video makes point which are not found in any other video. This was probably made through some experience and professional-article reading than through watching all those copy-paste youtube videos
David, what's your height and what's the brand/model of the chair you're using in this video? Thanks!
yeah
@@ollieboy4817 Thanks!
So helpful! I'm looking for a new desk setup and never thought about the drawers. Great channel!
I had spine surgery in 2011 and spent several months in therapy to even learn how to walk properly. Most of the stuff I learned was proper posture and stuff, but I remember the therapist was saying while sitting at a desk and stuff, more important part really was to not strain your back.
To be frank, I do a super, super low lean at my work desk. It's an L-shape and both my elbows are actually on the desk with my wrist perfectly straight. When folks tell me to "straight myself up" or else I'll injure my back, I don't think they realize the opposite has a much higher chance of happening. Great video btw, I would love to learn how to edit videos like you but alas, it's merely a hobby for me.
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Does anybody know where to get the keyboard wrist rest used in this video?
What chair do you use?
Always wanted one without an armrest yet comfortable.
I want to know too
Ikea volmar
Thanks!
You forgot to mention how much distance you need to maintain between the monitor and chair (I know it all depends on the size of the monitor and resolution) But there is some recommended distance so that your eyes don't strain over a long period of time!
i guess that's subjective to the size of the screen?
@@nikolasb6007 yeah
Nice video, I always try to sit up straight but then slowly hunch over after a while without even noticing. So definitely picked up some good info here. Thanks for the video David.
np!
Can you please tell me where I can buy that chair! Hard to find good armless chairs
Thanks a lot. I had no idea about the first one despite seeing professionals and considerable research.
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You have the keyboard too far away from you, therefore needing to hold up your arm and thus being "forced" to use some kind of palm support. _Not_ using a wrist rest, or however you call it, but having the keyboard closer to you, so that you do not need to stretch out and hold the forearm would solve this and be a much better long-term solution, but interestingly this simple and logic posture is seldom recommended.
Me: *sits*
David: NO YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
Me: ok...
why sit when you can just..... recline
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I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ADJUSTABLE DESK!!! Will have to look into one of them!
*HELP PLEASE😫🙏🙏💓*
I need to buy the same _adjustable table and chair_ as shown in this video.
*_★From where I can buy?_*
_Someone give me the online link to buy this table and chair._
*Please😫🙏🙏💓*
*I beg.*
_I work continuously 8 hours a day on computers and there is backache, neckache and all._
well first stop using emojis and people might help
@@NakedTrashPanda Help me.😵💫✍🙏
this really helped clear up quite also of misinformation I previously had
Hey David, which desk do you own? Where can we buy it?
IKEA
Great useful info, especially the drawer part !
I wish I had seen this video 3 months back. Now with a stationary posture of many hours a day I have screwed my back so badly that it pains everyday. I don't know if it will ever be normal again but guys just don't sit in the same posture all day and work. Life comes first before work, do a little walk every 20-30 mins, rest your shoulders on the chair don't bend forward, the typing position should be as shown in the video and screen should be straight , if you have a laptop then buy a wireless keyboard and mouse so that you don't need to adjust either arm or neck. A little investment can save your lifetime of money that you'll spend to recover from back pain...take this seriously and life will be less harder. Hope it helps.
You probably have a weaker low back or a mild disc bulge. Consult with a physical medicine doctor, it helped me a lot.
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This isn’t accurate. He forgot his reams of paper
If you understand this joke you're awesome
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hahaha! Everyone here after WSJ!
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thanks that helped a lot specially that wrist advice
Standing is significantly "healthier" than sitting. Even if you feel like your "Standing still", your body is constantly micro adjusting so that you don't fall over. This micro adjustment helps keep blood moving, preventing clots from forming and allowing stabilizer muscles to be used.
Isn't the same true when you sit? You are not sitting still actually.
Norio Takemoto When you sit, your muscles are supported by the chair, so they aren't used much and are inactive. That's why standing is healthier. When you stand, your muscles are still being used to hold you up.
well actually, our body is'nt made for sitting on a chair... the more you stand, the better
I've got a standing desk, and I find I move around a lot when using it, especially if I'm listening to music. If I have my phone in my pocket, Google fit actually picks up quite a lot of steps while I'm standing at my desk. :)
I bought the cheapest Ikea standing desk and I love it.
Just like you when I am listening to music while standing I can move about and do pelvis thrusts lol xD
Where'd you get both the chair and desk?
Really helpful tips! I finally know what made me feel so uncomfortable.
Nice video, quick, simple & covers key questions & points cheers 😊
You missed the most important thing i.e the monitor height
nothing like reams of paper cant fix
Agreed 😄
@@mistermoee so all of us are here after that video
Awesome job David
50k subs, 1m subs editing skills. You can even make the ikea meatballs look good.
Yet another great video David...
*_Give me the link of that chair in the video. Give me._*
Give me, give me, give me a chair after midnight... Won't somebody help me fix my posture today?
Nice video. Are your arms by your sides? Or sticking out a bit? I can't tell from your video.
Gonna have to cut out a big hole in the desk to fit my stomach for any of this to work...
or you could just try this
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@@LevusWorkstation well i cant because its not released yet and will be super pricy when released
@@cocoshort6528 sign up for our newsletter and its gonna be less than 2k
@@LevusWorkstation thats alot for a chair and desk, and their are more ergonomic positions for less money
@@cocoshort6528 it is a bit more than a chair and desk :) but sure, as long as you are sitting in a chair and not lying down there are cheaper options. I for one couldn't find anything in the price range of our recliner, you?
Wow. That's one of the most useful videos I've found on youtube so far. I thank you very much