Meant to say if you wait about 3 weeks after you have installed that tank and cut those fittings apart where you connected the copper to the black pipe you will see a lot of corrosion and narrowing and restricting water flow in and out of that tank till finally it almost closes off completely.
1) For Water Hammer use a real water hammer arrestor eg. Sioux Chief. 2) For the Water Heater although code can vary by state and province the general rule of thumb is Gas water heaters should have 18 of metal but an electric water heater can be connected directly to PEX. Check your local code to be sure. The difference between the electric and gas water heater is the amount of heat given off by the various water heaters..
@tylernt is correct...the risers are there will eventually fill with water due to the air dissolving into the fluid (much like the carbonation process). You may begin to notice hammering when your clothes washer is running as they tend to slam the water supply off. Hammer arrestors are pretty cheap and have a bladder to prevent the disolving of the air. The bladder will eventually wear out, but it takes a really long time.
You need a dialectric union connecting the copper into that galvanized coupling into your water heater. Connecting copper to galvanized without a union will make the pipe corode in time. You might wake up to water everywhere.
Hi very explanatory on your video but one thing that you cannot do and that is connect a black pipe fitting with galvanized or to copper never ever ever ever run water through that connection you need a dielectric coupling or nipple or a brass fitting to neutralize the two because of metallurgical reaction and if you wait about 3 weeks maybe not even that after you've installed the tank
Nice video. It looks like the couplings you used are black Iron 3/4 inch couplings on the water heater to the copper adapters. If this is true you may have a leak and brown water issue down the road.
good work. but im pretty sure you can get by with 12" copper by code. a lot of plumbers don't even do that . some pipe pex right into it and don't have problems. if your water heater is that hot you have problems. but always good to do it right!
@highcountrytimber Thanks, Yes, have the plastic bushings for the through floors. I did not like using the iron on the water heater. The home depot in town did not have 3/4" copper to 1" pipe thread female fittings and the nearest other place that might have them is an hour away. I will see if i can find any the next time i am in the big city Thanks
DarlingtonFarm Your local Home Depot can order the plumbing parts you need or order them online and pick them up there or delivery to your home. No inspector in my area would pass that. No dielectric fittings, black iron pipe (gas) fittings (which will also lead to corrosion of fixtures and water tank and copper) and no expansion tank..... 😔
I believe the heater will fail far before that type of corrosion would cause a leak. Ive seen installs like this, and steel strapping on copper pipes 40 years later. they are obviously corroding, but still holding. So there are better practices available, but no worries brother.
This installations would fail code in Texas, due to the fact you are not using di-electric unions or something similar to separate the copper from the steel tank. Without this it corrode many things caused by the electrolysis affect of the dissimilar metals.
Did you put the plastic anti squeak for your thru the floor runs? You did a nice job on the plumbing. By using a black iron fitting your risking a future leak do to the black iron not being rust proofing. Are you going to insulate the plumbing?
No need to use all them 90's bro its not a drain line....its water line and pex is flexible....so you dont have to worry bout putting your tool back there just straight pex
If you were a real deal plumber why would you take food out of your kids mouths by using a ridiculously expensive product when there is a far more reliable, easy to use, and cheaper product available?
WHAT? DarlingtonFarm didn't want to spend top dollar on the best tool to do the job? So unlike you...LOL! JK good job...I had to buy one of those crimpers when I missed a stud in my garage and hit a PEX pipe and needed splice the lines together..(shhh...I took the crimper back after the repair)
OMG, dont do this, hire a real plumber, this is the worst job I have ever seen. Home Depot should ban selling products without proper installation procedures. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The stayed at a holiday express made me laugh, I used to say that all the time
Meant to say if you wait about 3 weeks after you have installed that tank and cut those fittings apart where you connected the copper to the black pipe you will see a lot of corrosion and narrowing and restricting water flow in and out of that tank till finally it almost closes off completely.
1) For Water Hammer use a real water hammer arrestor eg. Sioux Chief. 2) For the Water Heater although code can vary by state and province the general rule of thumb is Gas water heaters should have 18 of metal but an electric water heater can be connected directly to PEX. Check your local code to be sure. The difference between the electric and gas water heater is the amount of heat given off by the various water heaters..
@tylernt is correct...the risers are there will eventually fill with water due to the air dissolving into the fluid (much like the carbonation process). You may begin to notice hammering when your clothes washer is running as they tend to slam the water supply off. Hammer arrestors are pretty cheap and have a bladder to prevent the disolving of the air. The bladder will eventually wear out, but it takes a really long time.
You need a dialectric union connecting the copper into that galvanized coupling into your water heater. Connecting copper to galvanized without a union will make the pipe corode in time. You might wake up to water everywhere.
Expansion tanks are required if you have a back flow preventer on your water service.
Hi very explanatory on your video but one thing that you cannot do and that is connect a black pipe fitting with galvanized or to copper never ever ever ever run water through that connection you need a dielectric coupling or nipple or a brass fitting to neutralize the two because of metallurgical reaction and if you wait about 3 weeks maybe not even that after you've installed the tank
Nice video. It looks like the couplings you used are black Iron 3/4 inch couplings on the water heater to the copper adapters. If this is true you may have a leak and brown water issue down the road.
good work. but im pretty sure you can get by with 12" copper by code. a lot of plumbers don't even do that . some pipe pex right into it and don't have problems. if your water heater is that hot you have problems. but always good to do it right!
Never plumb Pex directly into a gas water heater.
@highcountrytimber Thanks, Yes, have the plastic bushings for the through floors. I did not like using the iron on the water heater. The home depot in town did not have 3/4" copper to 1" pipe thread female fittings and the nearest other place that might have them is an hour away. I will see if i can find any the next time i am in the big city
Thanks
I'd just order it off Amazon
DarlingtonFarm Your local Home Depot can order the plumbing parts you need or order them online and pick them up there or delivery to your home. No inspector in my area would pass that. No dielectric fittings, black iron pipe (gas) fittings (which will also lead to corrosion of fixtures and water tank and copper) and no expansion tank.....
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I believe the heater will fail far before that type of corrosion would cause a leak. Ive seen installs like this, and steel strapping on copper pipes 40 years later. they are obviously corroding, but still holding. So there are better practices available, but no worries brother.
This installations would fail code in Texas, due to the fact you are not using di-electric unions or something similar to separate the copper from the steel tank. Without this it corrode many things caused by the electrolysis affect of the dissimilar metals.
Hope you didn't install the WH to Copper with Black Iron Pipe coupling, should use Brass (6 inch) or a Dielectric coupling.
That coupling you used was black iron pipe and that's for gas not water. In addition it's going to cause corrosion to occur rather quickly.
LMAO Was wandering if i was only one noticed BIP coupling!
Please read the print on the side of the pex pipe to see max working temp.
I put the rep pipe straight to the water heater. it's been okay since like 2 years ago.
You sir, are correct!
I did not really like doing it this way but it did pass inspection ok here
Did you put the plastic anti squeak for your thru the floor runs? You did a nice job on the plumbing. By using a black iron fitting your risking a future leak do to the black iron not being rust proofing. Are you going to insulate the plumbing?
Just what I wanted to know about how far hot water line from the water heater . Have seen some hooked right up to the heater.
Love from Plainfield
Hello Plainfield, I lived In Avon for a year way back
National Plumbing code calls for 3/4piping to the water heater.
Not everyone wants to pay a plumber ridiculous amounts!
I could pay a chef every night..to eat good..proper food handling etc. But no thanks
@BushkillLodge Thanks for the heads up
Is it easy to relocate a water heater??? Thanks
Kansas is 18 ridgid risers off water tank
Do they only use water tank water heater in the us ? Do you have combine boiler system
Next time use Brass Unions on your water heater. Easier to change out your next heater and no worries about electrolysis
everyone noticed no dielectric connection black pipe do what ever you want
yea saw that
He's a plumber now he's got pex and black iron coupling on water
No dielectric unions on waterheater you used a black pipe coupling
No need to use all them 90's bro its not a drain line....its water line and pex is flexible....so you dont have to worry bout putting your tool back there just straight pex
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That install would fail hands down here. This is coming from a licensed plumber. Do you know what electrolysis is?
Can you use uponor aquapex straight to the hot water heater?
universal Plumbing code and also 95% of municipalities require 12-18 inches of copper straight off the water heater, then you can pex away
I am a cat
Can i use a waterhose instead of pvc pipe
If you were a real deal plumber why would you take food out of your kids mouths by using a ridiculously expensive product when there is a far more reliable, easy to use, and cheaper product available?
your contaminating the water using a black iron 3/4 " coupling you must use a dielectric nipple .. let a journeyman plumber do the job .
WHAT? DarlingtonFarm didn't want to spend top dollar on the best tool to do the job? So unlike you...LOL! JK good job...I had to buy one of those crimpers when I missed a stud in my garage and hit a PEX pipe and needed splice the lines together..(shhh...I took the crimper back after the repair)
Uponor is better
OMG, dont do this, hire a real plumber, this is the worst job I have ever seen. Home Depot should ban selling products without proper installation procedures.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!