4 Plumbing Tricks I Haven't Seen Before!!!
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2020
- Matt walks you around a super great build with several smart plumbing tricks and several things he hasn't seen before!
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It’s very refreshing and encouraging to see someone speaking positively about other peoples work. Great video thank you!
I was thinking the same. It would give you so much confidence contracting Matt and his team - especially since he is showing good practice in design and learning himself.
Kim McC do you know that 95% of what he just showed you has been used for the last 20 years and most of it is Codes. Which means it must be done this way on every job!!!
Valentin Vargas are you in the trades?
95% of everything he just showed us is Code and has been in use and Code for the last 20 years!!!!
So he is praising work that has been in practice for 20 years like it’s brand new?????
Haha, you should watch one of Matt's latest video's titled " worst built house in America" All he does in that video is basically point and laugh at other people's work. I normally like Matt's stuff - but I really think he comes across like a bit of a smug dick in that video.
Valentin Vargas of course he is giving a Thumbs up. He’s hoping that they give him a break on his house. They shouldn’t but I’ll bet they do....
IE: Plumber plumbs his house....
Mat : wow what a great job!!!
Plumber:: thanks, But it’s at the bare minimum of the code.
Mat. : Really???
Yeah. Next time I’ll charge you even more. I’ll explain the down sides of a clean out on the second floor. Plus the BIG down side of having a water source in a clothes closet. I guess I’ll have to explain to you what causes mold in a closet!!
I mean after all you are a contractor and you don’t know these things?????
Hey Matt, for those of us up North, not only do we like to have a soft water line available for washing cars, but also I've added in a mixing junction to that spigot so that I can add hot water in the Fall and Winter months. Now I can still clean my car with nice soft water but have it be warm and not freeze my hands off in the colder weather!
Yeah that's an option I would put in , just another hot hose bib next to the cold and they have the wye hose connector to use for mixing H & C
I really like those recessed tubs! They could have saved those two nineties and just rotated those two tees they used for the recirc. I like seeing folks do quality work and I hope this plumber feels the love. I'm a plumber myself and pride myself on my work. Let's not forget to mention how clean this job site is. Clean up every day y'all. It shows you care and it takes you to the next level of professional. This is a quality home, but it doesn't matter where you work... leave it better than you found it.
Best things I ever did was giving a new home owner a offical SOP standard operating proceeded. Basically a booklet that has all the info on shut offs, etc. Also goes over general maintance. Had several clients contact me years later and tell me it saved them several times. Turnover is key to ensuring the product is maintained properly and increases longevity.
I've been saying it for years, there's just no excuse for not putting in a few extra valves and cleanouts when the plumbing is getting installed. Very impressed with the framing, the floating vanity upstairs was great, and the handrail supports on the stairs are rock solid. And those recessed dryer vent outlets are another example of taking a little time and forethought to make a huge difference in the final product. These are all ideas that should trickle down to smaller and more reasonably priced homes, not just the million dollar mansions like this.
For those not sure why there needs to be water in that semi-sunken bathtub, it is highly recommended to pre-fill the tub whenever applying (or reapplying) caulking so that it will not flex and break from the sheer weight of all that water. Same goes for shower paneling if it's set above a separate tub. The weight of the tub will pull down on the wall fractionally, but strongly enough to potentially disrupt seals, so you want to have it filled up to nearly the overflow drain height before you caulk the panels. (Also be careful of splashes; wipe up all the stray droplets that bounce up onto the walls & ledges after it's been filled, before you caulk!) (I learned this trick when I was fixing up my house for sale!)
But the wall board isn’t even on yet. It’s to test for leaks most likely.
@@aayotechnology Only thing I can think of that could leak would be the drain. I think @ladyofthemasque was on the right track but probably for the mortar to set underneath the tub, as it looks like there is mortar on top of each of those rows of cinder blocks underneath it.
Thank you! That was the only thing I was left wondering about when I saw it. I've worked construction in the past and had never encountered that before.
It looks like it's just so the foam it's on doesn't raise the tub as it expands.
Leak test and also helps set the motor bed.
OMG, tidiest job site I have ever seen, and neatest plumbing job. well done to them. Gold star
It’s funny, as an engineer all this home building stuff looks incredibly sloppy to me. I guess they seal it all up and finish it neatly. If I was designing the house it would be much much more precise and clean but would probably cost $25,000 per square foot to build.
@@lookoutforchris And it'd be an absolute nightmare for the guys that actually have to build it. Can't stand architects that feel they have to overdesign things. Don't overthink it, keeping things simple and logical is the best way to build houses and the workers will be happier for it. Everything you see in this video will be behind a wall once everything is all said and done therefore what it looks like doesn't matter as much as it being functional and up to code. And yes, this is a very neat job, can't make it much cleaner looking than that. You'll know a real sloppy install when you see it and this is definitely not sloppy.
@@losferwords100 lmmfao!! I wouldnt expect any different reply from a architect or engineer. Of course it looks "sloppy and undone" to someone who's only seen structures built on paper!! Clearly there are several phases still yet to be completed. It's almost like explaining to a child that the unicorn they colored in their coloring book, doesnt really exsist!!
Man, I love that stuff. So much thinking aheadfor the future homeowners. I did a lot of wiring new houses and had owners ask "why so much wire and stuff". I tell 'em you'll see. 10 yrs later I ask if I over did it and the answer is always no. I learned what people want because I always had to add these things to existing homes. So I decided to put it in right from the start. Always put the customer first and it pays in the end.
Wish there were more with this attitude!
I've always told my kids, "your name will be on EVERYTHING you do"; don't think they got it quite as much growing up as they do now as adults. ALWAYS have pride in your work.
Always give at least a little more than what is expected. You might add $100-$150 (small house/project) but the owners will spread the good word. It’s money well spent.
It takes a lot of humility to be able to constantly look at others and learn from them. This is one of the main reasons I subscribed to you. Top notch videos and great attitude!
I'd not call that humility, but curiosity and strength.
Amen. He doesn’t criticize different ideas, he learns from them to improve himself and help others. Much appreciated.
I would invite the former plumber to get a look at the new plumber’s work so he could up his game. (Assuming the split was on good terms.)
I’d call it his houses all suck and he doesn’t want to show them.
You are forgetting one thing he isn’t a builder or any kind of tradesman watch his videos someone else is always doing the work he is the new age bob vila giving you a tour of someone else’s skills
drywall guys are going to "love" those handrail brackets
How do they get a clean cutout over it?
Christopher Baker if the biggest dimension on the bracket is 2 inch just drill a 2-1/2” hole and then some mesh tape and Sheetrock 20 id assume
@@iceorbz I would just hold the sheet in position and cut them out with a router, then durabond and flat tape the oversize hole.
I was thinking about everyone going up and down the stairs, carrying something until it was finished. How many nail belts,or something big and bulky, and gets carried...
I just finished installing drywall and I was cursing myself for putting so many electrical outlets, and was thinking the same thing, that's not going to be a fun job lol.
Love this guy. He is all about improving his "know how", sharing it. He is humble and has seen a video where he points out mistakes he made and how to do it right.
Def some cool ideas! However as a plumber, a few things I would change are: 1- The shut off valves for the washing machines should be in an accessible location so they can be shut off between uses. 2- The washing machine on the second floor minimally (ideally both locations) should have a pan underneath to reduce potential water flood damage. The pan(s) could have a drain or if not, use of an automatic washing machine valve could give peace of mind. 3- If the HW recirc line was to be dropped as it was, the taps should come off at the bottom with tee fittings so if/when drained, there would not be a trapped section of piping. Also it would use fewer fittings and take less time.
Who the fuq shuts off the washer water supply between uses
@@pats9414 Those would be the people that have had a washer hose burst when they are not home.
@@MrLike2surf I just turn my water off if I’m going to be gone for more than a few days
@@MrLike2surf Or those who want to be sure they don't. If it's too inconvenient to push the handle on the valve assembly back to shut the water off, you deserve whatever calamity comes your way. Those steel braid hoses we are so impressed with are still just rubber inside.
@Jim Barnhart You mean the same people that failed to replace 20 year old rubber hoses? Reasonably maintained hoses don't spontaneously burst. If they did, your homeowner's insurance would cost 5x more each year.
Saw a lot of plumbing "tricks" that I have been using for many years. Real quality plumber there! It's hard to find those kinds of craftsmen these days. Licensed Plumber for 32 years. Quality Matters!
That looks really great, some wonderful ideas. I installed a recessed water shut off behind the fridge, left a 8' loop of steel braided water line, then attached a screen door spring to the loop and the wall, so when you move the fridge the spring keeps the line off the floor and out from under the wheels.
I wanna see a pic of this
Love this... These plumbing details are fantastic. I can't imagine the look the a builder face if I tried to spec these... but wow what fantastic attention to detail.
I have been building these big houses for about 30 years and most have two or three laundry rooms and we have always put a drain in every one of them even through it isn’t code. For floating cabinets the rough framer just installs larger 2x8” in the wall to support them. We also also have multiple water heaters with pumps attached to the hot water lines so the customers don’t have to wait for their showers to get hot.
We are doing a ten thousand square foot house now with a built in pool so there is a little more plumbing involved than a typical house. Also dog washes are pretty much standard now as well as steam units.
The steel in the master bath vanity are called "carriers" they are used in commercial applications for wall mounted toilets and lavatories.
Gregg Kidd. I’m really surprised that this is new to this contractor. It’s been used for many many years where I’m from. Gas valves water lines, softener lines, and 90% of everything else has been code for 20 years??
@@ltsgarage7780 As a cabinetmaker, I've been doing this for years, best way to hang a floating bath cabinet or shelves. Most people underestimate the forces involved.
The extent of plumbing, safety cutoffs and build strength in this home is well beyond what I’ve seen and I’ve bought 6 homes over 45 years. For example, when painting recently I noticed that my hand rail support brackets only had one screw per support instead of three. It only took two seconds per screw to correct this with my impact driver. I was upset with the builder. This was a safety issue! The shortcuts some builders take is awful. I appreciate the quality and attention to detail shown on this channel.
Channel steel.
Stephen Chandler Channel Iron. Angle iron. Most everything else is a tube of some sorts.
Don’t get me wrong there is a number of names.
I’m thinking that he should know the names of these simple items!!
Having a soft water hose bib at the driveway is great for washing cars, motorcycles, etc.
I have a hot/cold bib for my driveway. I can switch the cold between hard and soft at the basement manifold.
I have that at my house. It's great!
Having soft water fresh from the tap is even better!
Here in the northern part of the Netherlands has soft water straight from the water company.
I’ve never had a water softener system. Maybe our water isn’t as hard as some areas of the country but I don’t seen the big advantage. About every 5 years I soak my 2 shower nozzles in a decalcifier or vinegar to remove the salts. That’s it. Also, I’ve read that hard water has some long term health benefits. Seems that soft water systems are sales gimmicks. You buy into it then you have to maintain it for life. I don’t know about that.
I'd rather not drink water with tons of salt softening additives.
The one exception that I take is with the water shut-offs for the stackable washer/dryer.....they are behind the units and require moving the equipment to access. Relocating the the valves to the sidewall with return pipe connections to the original location allow quick access to the valves but keep the hose connections behind the units.
I like to spend $40 and cover the sides of my tubs with a couple inches of spray foam. I then set them in mortar. It helps keep condensation from forming in the closed area beneath the tub, strengthens the tub, and helps to keep the bath water warm longer.
Mine recommended plaster of Paris, but for same reason as mortar so the tub doesn't flex.
Great idea. Also do the kitchen sink, reducing noise and keeping your dish water warm longer.
Soooo basically put shut offs everywhere. 😂
It's what I did with my house. Who knew I would be before my time
We installed a pex manifold so we can shut off each line (hot or cold) to any location individually.
Shut offs and bypasses will save your sanity!
Basically, as in any build, Proper, Prior, Planning,.................
@@nathanddrews but the extra piping adds up when your bidding houses plus the hot water takes forever to get to fixtures and each fixture needs to do it. so if i use hot water at my master bath sink then go to take a shower i need to flush the line for each.
Matt, you have one of the best comments sections I have ever read on YT. The comments are definitely excellent!!!
When you get tired of being a home builder, take all of these comments, put them in a book and become a best selling author!!!
That house is frigging huge. You could fit my house inside that house three times over.
not a track home at all. welcome to the world of custom homes. this one looks like it's about 5k square feet, maybe 7k? nice.
Everything's bigger in Texas. Lol
Your house is that big? 😳
@@compactcow my house is 2400 sq. feet- I'm a plumber I plum house is that big a lot
a bonfire
This is one well planned house. As a 71 year young carpenter/builder/ remodeler I didn't see any thing that wasn't top drawer. The framing was tight. The backing in the walls is great. Horizontal blocking in the walls really make a difference.. I also like to install them in interior walls, it makes the walls tight like a drum cover. The electrical is clean. The plumbing and mechanical is top notch.
The overall cleanness of the jobsite is right down my alley. This builder is great. I hope the customer appreciates the fine home they're getting. I hope the builder gets compensated for his fine work. Thanks for making this video.
OMG, that house is HUGE!!! Beautiful home. I love how clean it looks even during construction.
The garage is my house, this place is ridiculous huge. Its so big that the master bedroom needs a washer and dryer.. Like seriously?
a giant fireplace!
You gotta do a feature of that handrail after it gets drywalled and welded.
That's such an simple thing to do yet provides a huge design benefit.
bobwatters idk. I think you can grind it off a little inside the drywall, and patch it... or just cut out section of Sheetrock and patch...
@bobwatters steel can be cut off quick and easy. I like that they have a ton of backing in the stair case area.
Do it right, do it once.
bobwatters
Oh lord...Bob’s worried about a remodel versus appreciating a quality build that will last a lifetime without needing remodeling.
bobwatters how many home owners you think will ever want to change out not just the railing but the bracket too?
Pretty nice for a starter home and they can upgrade to something larger as the family grows.
I did a job at a house where two parents downsized to a 5,500sqft house after their two kids moved out. 🙄
@@iLikeC00kieDough You mean 5,500sqft closets, right?
And those are the people who will tell you to go green and save the earth! Never mind my outdoor heated pool 🙄
This one is a huge home for anyone outside of North America.
@@bestman7776 ... And flights around the world twice a year but your car will kill the planet :)
Thanks Matt I always enjoy seeing the tips and tricks of the trade. Always good to have another way to look at and improve installations.
The size of that place is just insane. Thanks for taking us for a tour of the plumbing; some nice details!
just make sure when you go to "master bedroom" you don't forget something down stairs.
I love how much you care. I really care and enjoy learning how to improve but I don't know anyone else who does. Thanks for being an inspiration
Separate shut off to fridge great for changing the internal filter of that fridge.
Love that plumber's way of thinking. thanks for the walk through.
"How big you want your house?"
"Yes!"
Right?! Fucking hell!
WHO "needs" a house that flippin large?
@@tracykey9227 Multigenerational home. Grandparents, parents, multiple children. Maybe a second set of grandparents. There are several reasons someone needs a home that large.
I have been a finish carpenter for a long while but got out of it since the housing bust in 2007. Since then I have subscribed to your channel because you keep us to date on all the latest techniques and materials used in "better then average" home buildings. Love your channel and thanks for doing all this video for us to see and learn. I just wanted to make a note to myself that one thing I will never miss while being in the trade was using the "Port-A-Potty".
Yes after 55 year career in construction I can honestly say I DO NOT miss having "to go" in a Porta Potty!
Code should be handicap size only,, and paper holder 4' up
Man thanks for this video. We're in the process of building our dream house and you gave us a crap ton of ideas. Absolutely love the second washer drier in the master closet. My wife has lupus and can't walk much but she's stubborn as hell and won't stop doing stuff. Thank you
Good stuff, thanks for sharing. One I didn’t see was feeding the ice maker with a reverse osmosis (RO) line. We have a whole house softener and I still recommend an RO unit for drinking water and ice. For people that don’t believe the longevity benefits of the softener, we moved into our house in 2001. Most of my sinks are still on their original cartridges, and I even have one tank water heater that’s still alive.
Having a tank water heater with soft water is not the best honestly. I'm surprised it's still going. Tankless is the way to go with a soft water system
Wow, what a house! I would love to see it finished and furnished!
I’m leaving for work dear.
Why so early?
Because it’s a ten 10 minute walk to the garage.
Yeah good point, but honestly I don't think the new owner needs to "go to" work LOL
This is so true!! I've come to realize this as well. Big houses are such as waste of land space that could be used for gardening etc., more heating, more cooling, LOTS more cleaning if you like cleanliness, and such a waste of "life" just WALKING between points. I've noticed our Millennial generation is going back to minimalist, compact! I have a 520 sq. ft. apartment and it is ideal for 1 person; quick cleanup, everything at near finger-tip reach, enough space without being wasteful.
@@walterbrunswick Whatever makes you feel better about your small apartment...
@@xephael3485 What WILL make me feel better about my small apartment, is whenever I finally get everything organized and consolidated the way I want!! THEN I will feel better. I'd be willing to give an open tour. Maybe even put it on RUclips.
To add to that; the smaller the space, the more challenging it is to live within it. But at the same time, the more rewarding it is when it actually comes into play and WORKS, and is MANAGEABLE!
You should point out that when you install a loop for the water softener you need to install a drain for back flushing.
Also a bypass.
But at the end really great job looks clean.
Hi Matt ! This plumber is truly aces. I'm a 35 year Master Plumber, 12 year plumbing teacher, and licensed Stationary Engineer, (High Pressure steam and boiler operator, also responsible for Legionella testing. I've also been a county plumbing inspector for the last 5 years. I must agree that this guy is a great plumber ! Love the way he supported the tub, love the railing brackets, and love that the exterior hose bibs will have great water pressure, as long as they have a point of use backflow, or the entire sprinkler line has a testable (annually), RPZ style dual check valve. The only thing I would have to fail him on, unless I'm wrong and he has 6 inches from floor to bottom of the 2" trap, is that in Allegheny County Pennsylvania, the county is much larger than just the city of Pittsburgh. Washing machine box drains need a tailpiece between 18" to 30". Also, the bottom of the trap has to be a minimum of 6 inches above floor level. It looks short. However, I really am not trying to criticize your plumber, because as you say, This guy is superbly neat and wouldn't hesitate to use him on a job. VERY smart guy. Also, let me know sir if Texas does not require 6 inches from floor to bottom of washing machine trap. Loved the video, keep up the great work !!
Why would you need 6” from the floor to the bottom of the trap? Please make this make sense to me.
I must be the only one without a criticism. This has got to be the world's cleanest job site. I really admire the framing craftsmanship. Look at the clean lines and quality wood used throughout. Beautiful!
Wanna bet the builder cleaned up the site prior to video? Either that or they have inspections coming up
The past couple months I've spent so much time repairing work done by "professionals" that I forgot quality craftsmanship could be a thing.
I hear ya, I've had to fix 2 major leaks, and replace 2 ancient toilets in a house I just bought.
That's one enormous house.
Really. These projects all look like millionaires homes.
@@lunhil12 I imagine the home here will cost over a million dollars.
5 minute walk to get to bed :D
@@lunhil12 that's over 2m easily.
Shed - It's built like a shed - where are the bricks?
Matt, I love your videos. I just re-plumbed an entire rental house with Uponor Aqua Pex-A after seeing one of your videos. The Milwaukee expander tool, well worth the money. Thanks for passing along all to this good info.
One thing about that washer and dryer in the walk-in master closet. I didn’t see a drain on the floor. What happens when it overflows? That closet will most likely have carpet or hardwood. Need to have at least a tray if not also a drain just in case. No?
Alot of mold is what
And all the moisture from running them in the closet with all your clothes in the same space.
@@jayc4715 Simple...humidistat control on an exhaust fan. I install them all the time here in coastal California...
And then they didn't add any accessible shut-off..... So if you do have a problem you are trying to pull a washer and dryer out. At least the fridge has wheels 😂
I thought exactly the same thing @Stephen Greco - washing machine failures (plumbing, connections, clogs) are not really all that unusual. Having that in a carpeted, upstairs area without any kind of drain is something that really jumped out at me. The moisture from normal operation could be mitigated but no one is going to be happy if a line breaks while everyone is at the movies.
No drain in the floor for for the washing machine upstairs? Kinda dumb.....
@dmilo27 Look at the house...they can afford it lol
I agreed, not a big fan of washer and dryer on the second floor, where I'm from they're normally in the garage.
@dmilo27 w/the exception of the washer/dryer in the master closet, what other *useless gadgets* are you referring to?
glad i'm not the only one noticing this. technically they could up a pan there and meet code (at least , it would in my area)
Code says you need a pan that is plumbed to a drain... thats why my plumbing wholesaler sells them
BTW, i like that tub recess idea. I never thought about that concept. Without your videos, I would never be aware. So thanks, as I am still learning, which is a humble thing I think.
Liked the idea of a short person being able to get in easily. Not sure how they get out though!
Super high-quality and smart-thinking going on in this build. Impressive.
Nice to see the Uponor Q&E system is used. Planning to use that in the refurbishment of our house from 1954. Will use Uponor Combi Pex pipe in pipe with M7 in wall outlets for cold and hot water and to the radiators.
You are solid gold! I always learn from you. This time you caught me just before I was to install a dryer. I want that recessed vent!
It's up side down lent won't blow up that far. Think about it
@@vincentchato519 yeah it will
Thanks so much for posting vids like these. Makes all of us want to up our game. It's easy to do what you know, but to be able to take great ideas from others and incorporate that into your own work is more valuable than gold.
"Wanting" to up your own game goes even further imo.
I always wait for your videos as they are so informative and effective. Thank you for always sharing the correct information. Keep posting.
Great walk through. My last house build was 15 years ago, so many upgrades and ideas. As for the locations for shut-offs I would have lifted some of them counter height. As for the dryer venting nice clean application. The framing was impressive tight right with a nailing schedule some don't even know about.. Thx bud.
I LIKE that recessed dryer vent, I could use on in my townhouse.
In case anyone was wondering why you'd want soft water in your garage it's for spot free car washing.
Who washes their car in their garage? yMost front yards have a water spigot that you would use.
@@phillhuddleston9445 If you've got a car that you don't want any impurities from trees, falling from the air, etc. getting onto your paint and scratching it while you're scrubbing/polishing, you'd most likely set up a spot in a garage if possible.
@@coltonhenderson7275 Most garages are not set up to take water being splashed all over the walls and ceiling. This is a good way to get a water damaged garage.
@@phillhuddleston9445 Correct. Chances are though, if they add a spigot in the garage, there's going to be proper precautions due to expecting water being sprayed around.
@@coltonhenderson7275 I would not assume that, it would take a lot to completely waterproof a garage, most people would not know how to properly do that this includes builders as well.
REALLY QUALITY SUBS hats off to framers and plumbers
this guy must have done service and repair in his past or still currently does. he is thinking about the future, not just now. love it
I was ahead of the trend. My washer and dryer are in my master closet. It's just smart to have it there.
Its smart to have 2nd in master. The only W/D in master is awkward unless its a 1 bed house
@@guyod1 It's been working out great so far. 👍
Naw, my parents moved the washer and dryer upstairs into a big master closet back in the 80s and have done it ever since on three other houses including a five Bedroom house. We kids just didn't do the laundry. Saved my mom going up and down steps for laundry. Now it still works because they are empty nesters.
Hide the shutoffs in cabinets and in another room what a great idea.
I suggest having a "hidden" manifold with ball valves at key areas like in the kitchen pantry or in the bathrooms that provide shutoffs to each fixture. This is especially useful when you do wall hung fixtures.
Uponor is trash
@@2skyman why is uponor trash
I only install zurn
@@beurky
Just did that on a house this last year. Main kitchen and pantry kitchen with pot filler/ ice maker/ coffee machine/ two fridges/ steam oven/ three dish washers....ran each to a manifold system in mechanical room on the lower floor with individual shut offs and a a main manifold shut off and drain cock. Labeled and convenient.
Thanks for all the detailed information you have provided in this video. I like your way of explaining every point. Keep sharing such great videos in the future also.
Good looking plumbing work. I've been a plumber for nearly 49 years and I know good work when I see it. I did notice there was not a drip leg on the gas line, but in some areas they don't push it. These days they call it a settlement trap cause we don't have many moisture problems in most of the country, not here in Alabama anyway....
I knew this was a great build by the floors being swept and as clean as it was inside.
2nd floor laundry should have a pan (kerdi/etc.) connected to a drain with a trap primer. Stackable washers can flood. Also recirc loops give you instant hot water. Flows by gravity so long as there is no trap. And shouldn't those hot supply lines be secured with stand offs rather than attached to framing? I know they are insulated but if you are going through all the trouble, why chance having expansion squeaks?
But it does look like a nice house.
I like some of your ideas. But why is a stackable washer any more likely to leak than a side by side?
From a service plumber standpoint I hate stackables but I agree with the pan but why not have the pan line a water heater pan drain and go outside? If you run it to a drain on second floor drain backs up and floods out from your pan
@@paintslayer1995 That would certainly work (going outside). But its just from my experience. I live in a city row house on the east coast. I didn't want to punch hole through my bricks on the 2nd floor. I've had a stackable leak but it was more about concern for the cheapo hoses inside the machine and from the shutoff.
Oh and my trap primer was a 3/8 hole in the drain hose.
@@paulschofield3108 I thought a pan was code mandated for second story washer or water heater. Is it not?
@@jeffvlisides1518 I'm a plumbing inspector in Allegheny County, (Pittsburgh). Believe it or not, while it's just plain stupid, we cannot demand a safe waste pan or drain for second floor laundry, Stupid, I know. But we mandate a pan and drain for an attic furnace
I agree with Chris! plenty of room in the dryer vent box to include the gas valve!! Also where is the washer pan in the master closet laundry? If the wash machine fails it may be a problem!
I’ve thought about the idea of putting a small washer dryer stack in my 7x10’ master walk-in. This just reinforced it as a good modern idea.
It would save a walk through the upstairs, downstairs to the opposite corner of the house where the laundry room is at.🤙
Love the tips. This is the exact reason I subscribe, these tips cost almost nothing additional to implement and are great ideas.
Would love to see some electrical tips like this.
Yeah in terms of materials cost you're talking about tens of dollars per thing, less than a thousand to do all these things in the entire house (a few hundred in a normal, peasant-size house). I did think the extra cleanout pipe was kinda a weird thing since you can just take the trap out for the same result and the additional pipe is additional opportunity for the cabinet guys to mangle the back of the cabinet lol
Andrew Asche
Yeah unfortunately some builders squeeze the sh*t out of subs so all this little niceties get left out.
My wife was lamenting the lack of shut offs in our old 6 unit condo building. I said “think about it, 6 units with 2 baths equals 24 ball valves times 10 bucks per plus the labor. The builder isn’t going to lay out a grand so we don’t have to bother our neighbors to change out a shower cartridge”
We added shut offs whenever we remodeled.
@@tech99070 , As a cabinet maker and installer, I will agree with you 100%. I'll try not to mangle your vanity when I install it. :P
Keep those tricks coming! Ive already blamed you for a lot of my "tricks" in my videos! Haha... seriously though. I took my house to the studs with your help and have been putting it back together hanging on your words.
Jay Schmidt
That’s smart. My home is 30 years old and I’ve talk to my wife about buying a new home or doing significant home upgrade. Unfortunately, She doesn’t want the hassle of either.
Craig I think you meant “fortunately”!!
Craig Wheeless takes a certain person/lifestyle situation to be able to handle construction projects...!
I insulated all the pex pipes in my place when we did the Reno in 2009. Hot and cold. No condensation, etc. Dont have a loop. Drain water heat recovery on the drain below the bathtubs, etc work very well.
I like how he is a just doing his a best. His work is certainly above and beyond most work around him I'm sure and I can appreciate he's not being condescending at all
Need pan and drain for the upstairs washer
Is that code required where you are? (Not in this industry so excuse the ignorance.)
My thoughts exactly.
@@josiahr1375 Not yet. But it's a sensible precaution.
bobwatters From my experience, they usually are concealed or look like part of the machine assembly.
@bobwatters Then they are fools. They’ll change their tune the first time a minor leak in the upstairs laundry does $100,000 in damage. Not only should there be a pan, there should be an emergency drain out of that pan that terminates somewhere it can’t be missed.
I think if you are putting a second washer and dryer in the master closet you could get away with a more efficient heat pump washer dryer combo. Throw your clothes in before you leave to work and when you come home they are dry and ready to put away, no switching machines.
Yes, good idea. Plus there is no venting of water vapor from the “dryer”; the water extracted during drying is sent down the drain.
But those machines are really heavy; getting it up all those stairs will be an effort. And if there is a laundry pan getting it over the edge of the pan is also an effort.
I love the hot loop in the master br. In a house that large, you would have to run a gallon of water before the water got hot. By pulling off of a circulating loop, you get almost instant hot water. Don’t know what type of heat source they have, but if it is geothermal or solar, then that system is da bomb!
In the UK I've been plumbing and heating for 20 years, the hot water loop we call a comfort circuit. It's run from the furthest part of the hot water system if the hot line is more than 20mtrs long. We run the comfort return line in 10mm with a comfort pump with a one way valve and on a timer. = hot water with 20 secs at any outlet with minimum consumption
So wonderful to see insulated water pipes.
Be careful when considering the pipe configuration on a recirc system. If that is a tankless water heater with built-in pump, those pumps generally have a maximum piping distance that would be exceeded if pipe in that manner. The additional piping it takes to go down then back up adds a substantial load. Not only the length of pipe, also the number of 90s are crucial in the proper performance of Any Given pump. In the installs we are doing currently, we bring the loop to close proximity overhead, with no 90s. The distance from loop to fixtures is 6-8 feet. This makes for almost instant delivery and an unnoticeable difference from the installation in your video. Good luck on the next one. I really appreciate your content. I've picked up some very useful information over the past several years. Keep it up.
Not everybody is a "guy" and So, so is a word out word. .. . ,
2:58 My Mother had Sub Zero for years she had problems with. The reason was because the motor is at the top the builder didn't not ventilate the area the motor was in. FYI.
Thanks for all your precious time!!!
I designed and built the plumbing system in our house. We have 2 separate insulated hot water loops that can be opened up and run as one. I use a Navian water heater with a built in tank and pump. It works awesome and we have both instant and unlimited hot water.
I also installed color coded shut off valves on every branch in the basement. Some of it was done out of necessity as I was building the system while we lived in the house. This way I could bring different branches online without affecting anything else.
I highly suggest the insulated loop! Mine is 3/4" pipe with all branches being 1/2".
Here is a little plumbers trick I always did on all new house construction. Instead of using a elbow as the last connection before the pipe nipple going to be stubbed out to the dryer or water heater. Use a tee with a 4" or 5" nipple with a cap on the bottom and in doing so you will have a sediment trap for all the gas that flows to the control unit. You would be amazed at how much longer the control unit will last if the delivered gas is sediment free. It will cost about $5.00 to $10.00 dollars more on the job. Black iron flacks off quit a bit.
I noticed that too. That's usually standard protocol. I'm surprised after all the neat plumbing something so simple was overlooked.
@@agustinbonilla6676 first thing that caught my eye
That's exactly what I was thinking during this video.
The fact that Matt didn't catch that omission makes me wonder.
Many homes back in the 50's,60's had access doors to the plumbing on the bathtubs, which is genius. Nowadays, most are covered because nobody wants to see a 'HIDEOUS'' access door. lol.
my house, built in the 40's had shutoffs, but we moved things around, told the contractor to cut the drywall on the otherside of the wall and put in an access door and put shutoffs on the shower, he looked at me as if i was crazy. I love my access doors!!
@@drmalenko, best thing you could do in my opinion!
@@drmalenko not to mention this potential wet area in the wall under the tub is a favorite place of insects to take up residence an access door makes it easy to preventative treat this area for pest control
Most modern shower valve have shut offs facing the shower side now. All you have to do is remove the trim to access them. That's probably why most people don't do access panels anymore.
Edit: also, I could be wrong on this but I believe older tubs had mechanical connections in the back. Now everything is fixed in place before the tub is even set. The tub drain and overflow trims are put in place after the tub is set. With the absence of mechanical connections there's no need for an access panel anymore.
@@motorcyclemitzi8022 I agree, and it makes it easy to do a peace of mind inspection to make sure nothing has sprung a leak. I also had the contractor (who was a very close friend) cut an access home for the other end of the tub where the jacuzzi pump and electrical were... It just makes zero sense to close something up so that the only way to get to it is destructive. Before the remodel the bath sink was a pedestal (stamped 1941 on the bottom) and both water lines were exposed, you know how awesome it is to be able to see the water lines at a glance and know they aren't leaking?!!!
Very good idea on all these shut offs that are easy to access. Although I don’t yet have an ice maker fridge. I’ll get there. Thanks for sharing Matt.
Mix it up....do,do...mix it up.....do,do... mix it up.... I have used the angle thing on a levitated vanity once, but I did sth wrong and it fell about a year later. I told the homeowner that it was not in warranty anymore. I feel guilty about that of course. Mix it up.....do,do....mix it up..... (I love that song, it’s so rad)!
As spa guy i love when people leave no access to the whirlpool and needs to have a construction come a rip apart the bathroom for a heating element they new would need changed
The just pull the tub mentality sucks!
Love it, been telling the wife that when we build our "final" house, we're putting the little apartment sized washer/dryer combos in every bedroom closet. My only gripe (and one thing I'll be doing) is making sure every shutoff is easily accessible - not down under some cabinet I have to crawl in or get down on my knees for. I want them higher, but otherwise unobtrusive.
That is an interesting idea. I thought it was interesting in this home that mom's underwear doesn't have to be laying around in the laundry room but your idea is even more interesting: each kid can do their own darn laundry. I'm not sure of the cost, space, and overall feasibility of the idea but it's definitely something to consider. Our dream home design has a really big laundry room plan; laundry is a much bigger part of life than most home designs allow for. A big laundry room with adequate work room for sorting, folding, storage, etc., is a requirement for me - or at least a dream.
Very well done on the pluming!! That looks like a very large house!! Our house is old and the water is hard from the well. I have a filter but like you had said it does a number on the plumbing fixtures. I don't have any idea where to put a water softener space is very limited. We have a raised ranch and the water comes in through the front of the garage. I had the highest rated R-value garage doors put in. And I had a pipe burst last year. There is know heat in the lower level other than the wood stove which I use to heat the house. If I where to do it all over I wouldn't buy a raised ranch and I would have another system put in to heat the lower level. I would be difficult know due to all of the furniture. And it is base board heat. Any idea's would be welcome or if you have a video let me know I did a search and found nothing!!
Thanks
Ted
2 things. First is to get 2 water meters for the homeowner. The second one is for the lawn and landscape watering. That second account should not be charged monthly for sewer service since the water goes into the yard and not to the sewer plant. Saves on monthly bills. Also the cleanout on the master bath vanity looks too high to access it once the sink is installed below the counter top. But you're right. This is a terrific plumbing job.
Could you go over quality shut offs. I’m normally in older houses and the majority of the valves are bad when I actually need them. Are there any that are actual life time /ball valves are better than ...? What should we use if we want the best.
Alex N Only never found a leaky ball valve, just did a new master shower on a house built in 2007ish, the house had a main gate valve in the garage that would still let a little water by. The main water meter shut off was under the neighbors overgrown shrubs. Long story short wasted a day with loppers and arguing with the neighbor.
There is no quality shut off valves. They're all the same . The best would be copper or stainless or brass. One that can be rebuilt would be better than one sealed up.
Talking specifically about uponor, those little gold handle ones are not full port. Doesn't matter a bit for a 1/2" line feeding an icemaker. But something to keep in mind. Uponor does make normal, full port "long handle" ball valves as well.
I have always found that any ball valve will be better than a gate style. First thing I do when I buy an old house, or one I live in, is flip to ball valves.
Ball valves for shut off purposes is the way to go.
I’ve noticed the trend of moving laundry to bedroom closets in multifamily over the last few years. Seems like a good idea in terms of convenience. I’m curious if humidity levels increase in these spaces due to hot water for washer and dryer heat, etc. ? Might need an exhaust fan and some additional makeup air.
OMG that place is huge Matt, is there a his and hers electric scooters to get around... love to see the finished job. Thanks for the invite, I wish we could get the Australian houses up to even your base standards. Cheers
Great and useful ideas used to make life easy. Good common sense from everyone willing to learn and share. Thanks guys.
The distance between the hot loop and the faucet is the "dead water." Unless you run a recirculation loop to the vanity faucet, that water is going to get cold. So the shorter the dead water pipe is, the less cold water is wasted before hot water comes out.
O! I though it was to create even pressure for both faucets!
Thanks btw!
How about replacing the loop with a electric tankless water heater 🤔
What's your thoughts on dual supply (water tank/tankless) for far runs
Mansard Manor I’ve done this on a few projects, if you can get electrical there and have space it’s worth it.
Having the hot water recirc that close to the fixtures is actually required by code for certain commercial applications to reduce the amount of water that is wasted waiting for hot water
Someone already mentioned it, but over the last few videos I have watched and try to watch, I feel your microphone game is lacking bad. You have great info and if you have to do an over the video commentary because the sounds around you or lack of mic, that's fine, please do it. I want the info not the nail gun sounds or boards dropping creating a spike and drowning your voice out.
For what it's worth, I couldn't disagree more with this comment. Audio quality is solid, that's not what I'm here for anyway, and I rarely find audio issues distracting in your videos.
@@whitenite007 Lack of a remote mike was the first thing I noticed about the video. It sounds like my wife... She's always talking as she walks away from me and expects me to hear what she said.
After the cameraman walked upstairs, all I could hear was his heavy breathing. A mic for the host would be much better.
@@whitenite007 Audio quality is solid? Did we watch the same video? You must be the guy who thinks soundbars are a scam and uses the speakers in the TV
forward thinking!! good plumber.. below fridge, below tub, below washer dryer i would put floor drain too!
Good save on the clean out! 👏 that's the mind of a lot of thoughts, but you caught it. As always good info good video. 👍
Every home centers around a singular idea; the guts and the inner workings are buried behind walls. 15-20 years down the road or less depending on any number of factors, you got to get behind the wall to access plumbing or electrical wires. You got to cut a hole in the wall, possibly more than one, and then when you're finished, patch it back it back up. What a pain. Nobody thinks anything of it though because you're probably not going to have to do it often. But even once in the home's lifetime is too much and I want to see some drastically alternative designs where everything is easily accessible yet still hidden. Something like this would have benefits far beyond accessibility.
John Meise what you’re thinking can be done right now,,, but it all comes down to HOW MUCH IT WILL COST. That is the bottom line of every house built, so unless you’re stinking rich most people have to deal with the price of material. I’m working on building this fall, hopefully in October 2020 and materials are very expensive right now. I’ve been a plumber for 38 years and the plumbing and heating materials will be close to $18,000 and I’m using pex tube for water. Electrical work will be around $11,000. Carpenter gave me a price for building a 1616sf one floor ranch 3 bedroom, 2 1/2 bath plus garage for, $278,000. And that price does not include plumbing, electric, driveway, septic and leachfield or land. Needless to say, I might be able to retire when I’m 90 or dead.
@@geneticdisorder1900 I don't get the "cost" thing. It doesn't add a dime to the cost of plumbing or electrical supplies or work to not bury shit in the walls or floors. If you're talking about a small dedicated utility room I could see that adding a small cost to the framing but even that would be negligible compared to the money a person is already shelling out to buy land and build a house. I don't really see that marginal cost increase to the home owner as a valid reason to not bury things like shut offs and breaker boxes. Builders might try to make it sound that way to people that don't know any better because the minimal extra labor of framing two four foot long walls in a corner somewhere out the way to make that utility room adds a half day of labor and that eats into the builders bottom line.
I must have been spoiled by a right thinking state legislature without realizing it all these years. Doing shit like burying gas shut offs, water shut offs and electrical boxes in walls, floors or ceilings has been illegal and against code in Massachusetts for over a hundred years. It seems so contrary to any form of common sense that I cannot fathom why you would do it or what kind of foo foo douchebag actually has such a problem with a breaker panel or important water and gas shut offs being visible in the damn garage or basement that they would close them off.
Once those handrail brackets are hidden and rail welded to the brackets, homeowner will bring in item that needs them removed to put it on an upper floor. Murphy’s Law.
Any laundry room on main or upper floor should be built in a room that is essentially a full room drain pan with a drain for anytime a washer leaks or has water line burst. Even if it ran for days unnoticed, drain pan floor will handle it. Have seen same for bathrooms to cover tub problems. Down the drain, not through the ceiling below.
You see it more and more to lay the pan is well worth the time and money for the headache it can avoid.
@@alamina17 yes to the pan and also I use the water sensor shut off and yes I have had washer overflow.
those crappy hoses that come with the washers are notorious for self destructing over time.
Yup, this tile man has put in his fair share of sloped dry pack floors; I also install my own pan liners and drains so it's done to my standard.
@@davidbrennan5 Use woven-steel-mesh armored hoses. Burst-proof.
The cleanout in the upstairs master bath is awesome👌
Some very good info even if it will never apply to me. The sheer size of this 'house' dumbfounded me ! I've been in Department stores that were smaller! Wow! Anyway.. Thanks again for taking the time.
I love that everyone uses Darth Vader as a camera operator.
2:14 Recessed dryer vent. 1) look back to 2:02 and the sheet metal pipe rises over 10'. Plugged solid in one year. 2) Dryer vent outlets are not standardized to the right corner and there is a drain pipe to the left (not moveable). 3) The dryer gas shut off is, "in the cabinet" on the right. So, where ever the cabinet door is, add the 2.5' that you have to reach around the side of the dryer to get back to that shut off valve. The whole project is a testament to the maxim, "Rich people do stupid things."
very well observed. I caught the difficulty of reaching over, but not the 10 footer. hehe. thanks, Dad
I am guessing you're a tinner
It is behind the cabinet because the back of the cabinet has an opening. you don't have to reach around anything. just open the cabinet door and reach inside. the slight inconvenience every blue moon when someone has to do that FAR outweighs the ugly shutoffs being exposed all time. I do this all the time, hiding outlets and switches and whatnot in the back of the cabinets. its so much easier and makes the room so much cleaner looking.
isnt the maximum 35 feet with no bends? if it goes up 12 feet 90s to the left (add 2.5 feet) and goes 8 feet out that sidewall it could still be under the maximum.
@@fiercenet Yes. But do you use a regular indoor dryer? I have a straight lateral run (not up as in the video), without bends, at about 12 feet, and have tried 3 different dryers. I still need to service/ clean out the duct work twice per year (two kids, regular family laundry, regular screen cleaning). Despite a clean screen, the CFM (cubic feet per minute ) air output of dryer blowers allows for small particles of dust/lint to accumulated in the duct, which then continues to slow down the airflow in a vicious cycle in which ultimately the output is minimal and the clothes will not dry. Show me the dryer that will not clog a 35 foot duct, and I will buy it tomorrow!
Been doing most of those during my years of plumbing. We put the shutoff for the fridge water in the cabinet or pantry that is usually beside the fridge.
I'm glad you clarified the clean out because I was just about to hit pause and make a statement LOL. These are some great ideas to think about however I've always been one to have a clean out added because p-traps are easy to get unplugged however plugs further away can be a nightmare.