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He is self aware and it's very probable that he will not only be vegan but an animal's rights activist as well, this made my day a little better. I am definitely going to buy your book as soon it's available to US.
I would say clueless people think they know everything and don't push themselves to learn more. Naive people haven't had the opportunity or just don't bother to gain more knowledge. This guy was just the opposite. What a pleasure to watch this video and see everyone's comments
I was amazed about the fact that, not only did Eric himself bring up the topic of necessity (when he said that those who need to kill animals to survive are moral), but Eric also broached the idea of putting himself in the animal's shoes and how it didn't matter whether it was factory farming or other forms of farming- all is immoral. Seeing how empathetic (and non-defensive) he was, was relieving to see. Watching this made my day!
My wife and I have two fifteen year old boys. Their science teacher is a vegan and she takes a few minutes of class to debate with kids who parents are in animal agriculture. I am in the hunting and fishing industry. I own a small store and a fishing barge that I am going to be opening in a couple weeks. She debated with them because I offered them a job. I know vegans are always right, smarter, stronger, faster. They came into the store after school and told me what they were doing and what I was doing is wrong and they quit. Now they work in a vegan restaurant two towns over busing tables, wrapping napkins. For five dollars an hour. I was paying them fifteen fifty an hour. The science teacher's family owns the restaurant
@@shawndarling5855 Sounds like you've raised compassionate, open minded and confident boys, you and your wife should be very proud. It's also really great to see that as a result you're now watching Ed's videos. I'm sure your sons will appreciate you taking this interest in something that will likely now be very important to them. Perhaps they will inspire you and your wife to make some albeit difficult (re your profession), very positive changes.
@@shawndarling5855 I can’t put myself in your position, but I can imagine the situation feels very unjust to you. I agree with the other commenters, you should be very proud to have raised compassionate and caring children. And you are fortunate, because I think that if your kids are capable of showing such compassion to animals, they will be capable of compassion towards you too. I hope your family can work through this tough situation and listens to each other. Best wishes.
The parents of this man should be very proud. I love his curiosity, and also there seems to be an inherent innocence and kindness about him. And Ed, as always, brilliant.
@@janieswanson2549 what are you doing with your life spending time attacking vegans? Vegans are literally people who care about animals, health, and the planet, people who are trying to minimize suffering in the world and do good.
What an intelegent and humble guy. It takes a lot of humility to admit you don't know something especialy on camera. And he understood the objective morals vs culture argument straight away! I hope Erick does work on himself and progress to inspiring others. He's already inspired me. What a great guy.
@@MohsinAli-jt5rk Or perhaps it's because he knows Goatis is a clown and a mysoginist? Honestly, If Ed debates Goatis, it amounts to Goatis getting outrage clicks from Vegans. Ed and Veganism do not get any boost and the actual audience just wants to laugh from an ignorant perspective. Ed spends his time.better than that.
@@siinrajiaal I was being sarcastic in Ed’s latest podcast it’s like he’s wearing his grandads clothes that’s what veganism does to you. Eating disorder. Go get some help.
This was the most productive and open-minded conversation I’ve seen one of the challengers have so far in this series. Ed keeping it together and getting through conversations with people like that one idiot girl, who wouldn’t stop for a breath, only to eventually get to people like this guy and make a real difference in his life is so worth it, and Ed is the only one with the patience to do it. My fucking hero.
Its easy to troll on the internet, not so easy when you got someone like Ed sitting next to you and deconstructing your entire belief system in matter of minutes
Had a small (3.5 Oz) fillet steak for lunch, so I'm def. not angry. Team V makes omnivores more appreciative of real food. Decided to go vegan, ~3yrs ago but Day1 research paused the project & by Day3 it was binned. Research has continued & all I find is plant-based BS. I guess I'm a troll🙄or else I don't wish to eat a diet which, historically, has been that of paupers & slaves. According to Dan Buettner, who promotes a "vegan diet", the healthiest & longest living men eat 31% animal products. See Blue Zones Sardinia for more details.🙃😎
@Happy Carnivore you've dedicated an entire RUclips account purely to dig at vegans? Man I actually feel sorry for you, I hope things start to improve soon
@Happy Carnivore well your last few comments on things are on vegan videos and your account name is happy carnivore, which led me to believe you're literally spending your spare time trying to troll vegans. This would be very sad and made me think you're unhappy or lonely, hence why I hoped things would get better for you.
Such a pleasant exchange. If only more people could be that honest & receptive to information. It'd make activism so easy! Thank you Mr. Winters for all you do. I'm excited to receive your book that is expected to arrive in the mail this Summer :)
What an astute young man! I wish Ed had been around when I was younger. I didn't stop eating animals until I was 27 - almost 31 years ago. At the time I didn't know what vegan was, animal sentience or the horrific practices in the dairy industry. When I finally found out about it 2 1/2 years ago I went vegan on the spot.
Eric is the demonstration of a key psychological trait found by scientists among vegans :"openness". You need to be open to new ideas, norms and behaviour to change. That's why if Eric is not vegan, just by his attitude we're all confident that he's capable to improve himself by his openness.
This dude, smart young man, is one of my favorite who goes 'up against Ed" haha. He's on the right path, if he becomes vegan or not, he cares and it shows. The world wont become vegan overnight and the 'in betweens', like this guy, shows that people are starting to really consider other ways of being with other beings.
A rarity he says. I think one of the problems many people have with vegans is that they tend to think they are better than non vegans. Your comment describes this perfectly
@@0BluePrototype0 I think that he is referring to when non-vegans speak to vegans, not just in general. People are, as a rule, very defensive when speaking about veganism with a vegan (this is just anecdotal from my own life and from what i have heard from others). So, I think what he means is that it was surprising that the guy was so open to arguments against eating meat. Not that meat eaters aren’t open minded in general.
@@natashathomsen7183 I think everyone gets defensive when they have their morals challenged, which is a bit part of why so many people are reluctant to have conversations about veganism. It is really important for vegans to have an inquisitive stance like Ed, and to ask questions instead of accusing.
This is my school!! If I had seen Ed on campus, I would’ve lost my mind. Ed, thank you so much for all you do for the community and the animals. You truly inspire me. And much love to Eric for creating such lovely conversation and being so open-minded.
What an awesome line of questioning you have Ed. You really helped him draw his own conclusions, you did no “convincing” you just allowed him to discover things for himself. Well done.
I really love how Ed brought the conversation back to accountability and addressed the issue with a reductionist mindset. This was an awesome conversation!
After watching innocent people getting blown up in Ukraine it's nice to remember there is hope for humanity with people like Eric. Thanks for everything you do Ed!
@@ARKSURVIVOR879 thank you. So far they are, but they see schools, hospitals and homes being shelled. They feel abandoned by the west. I feel powerless :(
I feel people like this, know prior to approaching Ed's table, that they just want some confirmation and direction..a good conversation to learn from. All throughout university I dabbled in vegetarianism after watching earthlings. I was like Eric and understood my food choices had an effect on things behind the curtains and that my dollars spent on animal products supported the supply and demand concept. I didn't have enough information and knowledge on how to improve and spent the next 7 years eating meat and dairy, feeling guilty.. knowing deep down it wasn't right FOR ME. Now I have more than enough knowledge on basic nutrition and have been vegan for over a year. I've consumed no red meat, chicken, or dairy products for close to 2 years. that's because I was spearfishing and harvesting seafood for a year before coming to realize I could get all the nutrients I need from a diverse plant based and whole food diet. That and that the suffering I witnessed and caused first hand did not feel good. I now live by the rule, that "life is life". My life is no more valuable than an animal's. I'm at peace with knowing my actions and intent are to better the life of all living creatures, including humans, here on this beautiful earth. I love these videos as they are such a good source of inspiration to keep going. The number of plant based / vegan people grows by the day and I love it. We got this!✌️❤️💪
life is life is such a good way to put it! i was personally a vegetarian for a couple years, and then covid-19 happened and for some reason that shifted me into a completely plant based diet. coincidentally i started watching earthling ed at that time too haha! 23 now and vegan, never going back! life is life, and everyone should be treated equally! i’m going to steal that now!!
He's a good man. I like that he wasn't afraid to continue to ask questions when he didn't understand accountability. Most people would be afraid of asking what seems like an obvious question, especially on camera. It takes courage to be able to admit you don't know something. He's already showing responsibility and accountability without even realising it.
Eric, shoutout to you for sitting down and engaging with this issue!! This was a lovely conversation to watch. I wish everyone was as open-minded as you 💚
Because the meat is widely available thanks to mechanical means and no one has to go hunt, take down, kill, slaughter, skin, gut, cut up animals themselves. If they did then most of the world would be veg/vegan 🤝☺️
Yeah! I was the same. But the worst part is 0 knowledge about other sides of meat industry! Most meat eaters (just like us probably) have or had no idea what was on the plate, the history behind. I’ve developed such a huge empathy for animals that at this point I can even say I love animals more than humans.😂
@@chrisoliver6690 I mean I‘d be a much worse speaker with a camera filming me. As someone who has transcribed a few interviews for documentaries in the past I can tell you that, for example, scientists are almost always awful infront of the camera, they often struggle to form full sentences with proper syntax. So I don’t hold that against people.
@@chrisoliver6690 o what is someone says like in one sentence? are you a perfect speaker with perfect grammar? no ones perfect at speak stop acting like you are!!
@@chrisoliver6690 most people use placeholder words subconsciously while they think of the right wording to say. it actually shows they are being thoughtful with their words.
Right from the first moment Eric opened his mouth you could tell 'who' he is. A beautiful, gentle person, an open minded soul 💗 Genuinely refreshing debate 🙌
well its seems contradictory to look like a soyboy gay man and tell us men this is masculinity, Ed looks like a frail old women who would need a MAN to help him take the groceries to his pink car. Ed subjective morals just simple doesn't stand up to the reality of nature but Ed know that veganism is not good for humans because its NOT ABOUT HUMAN HEALTH its a animal is god human death cult.
While it may be more entertaining to have someone on the channel like the last debate, I'm glad you decided to post a debate like this. I'm sure this is how a majority of the conversations go. Well done Ed 👏
What a great guy Eric seems to be and open to listening. It’s hard at that age with how judgmental friends can be. I see a future vegan right there! 🙌🏻
The guy is intelligent, open-minded and very friendly. I'm often concerned of hitting on strong opposition when talking to meat eaters, but I should keep in mind that there's good and compassionate* people out there like this guy. *in heart, not (yet) in action, obviously
I was worried about this initially as well, but the surprisingly thing about getting out there and doing outreach is that you realize "intelligent and open-minded" is the norm not the exception. If you've got an inclination to do so I highly recommend trying your hand at outreach. If you've got a camera, even better as it helps you review and improve!
@@DebugYourBrain I've been meaning to join AV for a while now, but I still need to gather the courage to participate. (Also there's no AV near me, but I am moving later this year, so I'll start vegan advocacy then!)
Amazing conversation and refreshing to see someone’s lightbulb light up without continual rejection. Regardless of the argument, he did not deflect or was afraid of hearing the other persons point of view with the intent to prove them wrong as soon as they stopped talking. Ed you have done a wonderful job to engage in conversation and let the other party justify themselves rather than attack. This is the dialogue structure we need to help resolve some of our deepest problems as humans. I believe that Selfishness, unfortunately, is the biggest root of all issues we deem as wrong as a society.
This was an incredible exchange of ideas! Eric was completely open and honest and was willing to listen and ponder his actions. He was also mesmerized by Ed's hands as he weaved through the debate. I don't know how it took me so long to find Ed but I'm glad I did and I'm glad I'm vegan!
When I finally started my road toward veganism the first step for me was to stop buying any animal products. I wasn't vegan at this point yet because I would still eat dairy and fish if it was already at the table. Seeing Gary Yorofsky videos and a documentary called the Cove helped me to connect with veganism and activism, when before that I was only doing a boycott.
Eric is a vegan but has been brainwashed by marketing like lots of us have been He is actually very philosophical and his response has gave me great hope in how there are more people as logical as him
totally agree. surprised myself on how much more physical endurance, strength and energy i got from a vegan diet. definitely improved. even got other fitness friends to try whole food plant based. powerful diet with no moral issues, saving the animals. its a win win for everyone.
OMG Éric MVP! So nice to see someone debating about veganism and coming to opposite conclusions to what he initially came in with, without getting irritated and always talking with much respect. My man Eric if you are reading these comments, know that you were admirable ! I hope you managed to follow through and align with your personal morality and become Vegan! Like Ed said, best thing to do now is dive into the harsh reality of factory farming and looking at vidéos just to be 100% aware of where your money goes when purchasing these products.
Thank you, Ed. I keep watching/reading because you null my confirmation bias with NEW enlightening pathways to understanding, through compassionate discourse. Today I was reminded that the end goal of this is in fact to END animal exploitation and the institutional suffering of all beings, not merely to more efficiently snivel about each others' human shortcomings.
13:29 I'm so impressed with his openness. It's hard to be challenged, and especially on morality. Too often, we let feelings dictate the next 5 seconds instead of adhering to reason. Mensch.
this guy was so awesome. love how he didnt just listen, but actively wanted Ed to elaborate on certain points. he seemed like he was genuinely interested and wanted to make a change.
Not directly related to this video, but I thought plant-based folk might be interested in this. My 15 yr old son went vegan a year ago. He influenced me to do the same (I'd been vegetarian for 30 years). Knowing how important it is for kids his age to get the correct nutrition, I educated myself a bit on which PB foods provide a healthy balanced diet. The dietary changes were not hard to achieve. A year later and I arranged a blood test analysis to check that all was well. The doctor reported that my son's results were quote 'really good' with every major nutritional indicator showing as it should be. This is a good practical example to counter the nutritional myths about a PB diet.
This felt a bit like speed running. I feel like he would have benefited more with time to think through the points. Still, great to see you out there helping others look closer at this.
I thought the title of this video was sarcastic, forewarning us of an impending car crash of a discussion. How wrong I was! And happy to be wrong, too. Eric was so open and receptive. He really engaged with the questions you posed to him. He wasn't at all defensive. If only all exchanges on hard topics could be this easy! I hope that Eric does end up going vegan by taking it one day at a time. Maybe he can inspire others too! Good job Ed and Eric! Additionally, I have been thinking a lot since the Kurt Zouma/Cat incident. Like you, I used it as an opportunity to hold up the mirror to people, getting them to reflect on their behaviours and cognitive dissonance. I realised that, as I was just vegetarian (~95-99% vegan with my purchases/consumption), I was actually employing the same techniques of self-deception as they were. This incident and the subsequent discussions enabled me to look into that mirror and say, "You need to be accountable.". I've been living veganically for the last few weeks now. It has been so easy. There has only been 2 or 3 times where I have had to consciously not consume something that I would've done beforehand, and it has not been a great loss.
What a great conversation you both had! This is a guy who's already vegan by heart. If you're reading this Eric, you're not alone in this! It gets easier over time once you do the proper research. Since you mentioned proteins and other amino acids as a first I would suggest trying a documentary like the Game Changers. Good luck on your journey man! I hope we all can make the world a better place! Keep up the good work Ed! You're awesome!
I really enjoyed this conversation. Eric seems like an honest and emotionally intelligent guy, no defensiveness just an open mind and curiosity! I hope he goes vegan. 🌱 Amazing video as always, Ed!
Eric is so humble and open-minded it almost melts my heart. If only all human beings are like him! Another thing that made my day today was that my ex-boyfriend who I broke up with over a year ago sent me a text today telling me that since he moved to another city, he watched Earthlings again himself (we watched it together once but it didn't really strike him that much) and has since been taking baby steps towards becoming a vegan. Today it's one month since he became a vegan. He said he owed me an apology because he once said "everyone does some evil things and maybe for me it's eating animals" and he felt embarrassed in his head every now and then thinking of what he said. Indeed, he firmly said he will never be a vegan when we were dating. I said the same thing too, a couple of months before I became a vegan in 2018. People can surprise themselves by what they could do and change. I'm convinced that if the vegan community keeps doing what they are doing, they will eventually reach the right people and make the change. A huge thanks to Ed again. Hopefully we are all an inspiration to someone else one way or another.
There are too many so called vegan activists who actually argue against actual vegan activism and argue for meatless mondays because "carnists don't like it when we preach veganism". I hope they watch this video and realize that we are fighting for every single individual animal. If we aren't fighting for an eventual vegan world we aren't animal rights activists
I have other vegans get mad at me all the time for this. Like a person will say "Yeah I'm not vegan, not ever gonna be, but I do eat locally/sustainably raised meat and I try to reduce and stuff" and I'll just go "oh actually here's some reasons why that's not really that great and why you might actually wanna reconsider that stance" And then I'll have "vegans" telling me- after like a one or two comment exchange- that I'm too aggressive..? and that this person is trying their best and we need more people like them and "we have to realize that not everybody wants to be vegan. baby steps are important. any change is good change!" Like i don't even know how to process that logic.
@@ben66562 Yeah. There has to be a balance. Obviously we don't want to scare them off, and we have to encourage them, but that doesn't mean we can't push them to be better. Even if we want them to listen, we can't say it's enough when it isn't yet.
@@ariella118 exactly. I just cannot compromise on that. if someone says they're going to start cutting back and eating local now then to me that just suggests they don't really understand then? and instead of just patting them on the back for coming this far or something I'm like well no what piece of the puzzle is missing? what conversation have they not had yet? what is it going to take to get them there? because the second you fully understand these things, there's no other possible conclusion you'd come to. and I've had conversations with people before where they start at "reduce, eat local, sustainable" and stuff and then once I just get across a few key points then they're putting it together and asking for advice on what to eat as a vegan. it does happen. obviously not with everybody. but it drives me nuts when people just want to leave the conversation there when sometimes they might just be one conversation away.
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." --Albert Einstein (Today, he would be vegan. It's only logical.)
Google vegetarian quotes for wisdom from vegetarians from history like Da Vinci, Ben Franklin, Nikola Tesla, Voltaire, Tolstoy, George Bernard Shaw, and many more. Today, they would be vegan of course.
@@janieswanson2549 What prevented them being vegan was the knowledge that we now have about nutrition. It has never been easier or more convenient to be vegan. I challenge you to go to a good pure vegan restaurant and claim that it is boring. You can get every dish that you now enjoy in a vegan version.
That accountability advice was excellent. I got maybe half way through 'Earthlings' as meat eater 10 years ago and made the switch then and there. I couldn't even finish the film.
@@BethanieBoots same.. when I went vegan when I was around 16, my sister was luckily mainly vegan too. So she helped me a lot with the transformation :) Now I've been vegan for almost 6 years and didn't regret it for one day!
I've wondered during my 20+ years of veganism whether people like this are genetically predisposed to feeling empathy. I believe I am. And I've noticed that maybe 1-2 out of a hundred people seem to be this way, regardless of culture. Maybe it's not genetic - maybe something else?
I think it’s an inherent trait every child is born with. If the child grows up in an environment that encourages showing empathy, it will last. If the environment constantly shows detachment, against all kinds of sentient beings or against beings that differ from one’s own self-perceived identity, it’ll get diminished. But that is just an assumption.🤷🏼♀️
I have been recently very Introverted and reserved as far as Intellectual discussions go but you remind me that just being vegan isn’t enough and that words travel with much more power. Thanks for reminding me never to lose sight Ed. 💚
Ahw, know it's also okay to be the quiet introverted vegan. We are not always able or in the right mental state to try and motivate others to go vegan. Just don't be too hard on yourself.
💚 The world needs more people like this curious and compassionate student. For people like this, we do not need to take a "hardline" approach. He will be vegan if he is exposed to a few more vegans along the path of his life who can continue to enlighten him. So...who among you will step up and help him get his 100 "clicks"? Vegans who are silent need to remember that they have so much more power than they think they do. Speak out. Wear vegan t-shirts. Order the vegan options loudly in restaurants. Remind people that they were all born vegan and all they need to do is return to the inner compassion they were born with. If you're vegan, make your presence known in the world. Don't just eat popcorn while watching videos like this. Engage. Be brave. Speak out and be the voice of the animals who are suffering so much and desperately need our help. Thank you for doing your best to be amazing animal-defenders! 💚
I am mostly a popcorn eater because I have severe social anxiety, but I did point out recently to an anti-vegan that children have to be taught to kill. It isn't natural and we weren't meant to do it. A child who kills an animal on their own would be labeled a psychopath and future serial killer. Watching these videos has been slowly helping me get up the courage to say something ✌️
been a vegan now for 4 years. feel great but i have to say i’m getting tired of being judged by family and friends. because of this i do sometimes question it all. for myself
Oh Ed this video makes me so happy… so hopeful… you have such a beautiful way about you, your words and tone. You are so informative and so kind. I wish I could come across more like you. I find it quite difficult to keep a level head, as I am quite baffled by people’s ignorance. The industry saddens me beyond words and sometimes I just get so hopeless and frustrated. What a beautiful person you are xxx
He looks so inspired, displayed genuine curiosity and honesty. What a beautiful man. If he's able to hold himself accountable, surely he will become vegan 💕
We need more people like Eric in the world. Willing to question their assumptions, curious to listen and learn, keen to evolve morally, able to critique oppressive systems of assimilative normative [carnist] cultural logics and behaviors, inclined to raise others up not bring others down, and humble enough to self-reflect! Kudos young man! :) A vegan in the making.
This guy is like me going vegan. Once I found out "the truth", I just knew that being vegan was the only right way to be. It still took me a year to become vegan 100% but it was down to my laziness, not undermining the idea in the slightest. That's what I thought everybody else would be once they hear it!! Yes, I can hear you all laugh :):) It is one of my biggest disappointments in life - the extent to which people can go to defend a clearly unethical way to live. This guy is as straightforward as one can be - heard it and wants to do better. Wow!
Give yourself credit, my friend. That year wasn’t laziness, you had to overcome the social conditioning from all your previous years of life! And maybe that moment will come where everyone around us flips the switch too. The more vegans there are and the more options for us, the easier for more folks to change over!
Not laughing, just smiling because the same happened to me, it's worlds and stars apart from what "people" around you are doing for the "cause", putting down an extra effort where there was hardly none before, is not just hey, I'll do it... Massive change, and also knowledge brings hurt, it also is a fight or escape scenario, it's a deep psychological reflex we all have more or less. Important is that we actually arrived there with the goal intact, being humble and seeing how weak we all are to lies our mind plays to us, even if the mind tries its best to just elevate the pain. After going thru the process of becoming VEGAN, not a diet, and not a lifestyle... it's just the basic moral value principle, if it's wrong, it is wrong. Then eat by the same protocol, buy products with the same logic and help others to find their way out of the meat haze. Thank you!
It took me probably at least 6 months from the first idea of going vegan until becoming fully vegan (mainly due to convenience and how 'hard' i thought transitioning would be, as well as flip flopping because of other people's opinions or conditioning). But I did it and i knew 100% that veganism was the goal, otherwise it was pointless to find out the info that I knew. Be proud that you've made that step, many still haven't started their journey.
This person might be young and naive, even low information but holy hell were they more honest, vulnerable, and critically thinking then all of the other interview subjects I've seen. Incredibly bright young person. They will go far
0:25 that's the moment where I knew that it was going to be a great conversation. This guy was genuinely interested and open to the conversation. That's awesome!
This was such a pleasure to watch I wish I would have been so open minded before I started to get deeper in to the topic of veganism. Keep it up You are such an inspiration Ed Thank you 💚
It's been a long time since watching these and not wanting to bash my head in. It's amazing what can happen when one takes themselves out the equation, starts listening and asks questions. Thank you Ed. Love you more than you know.
What a thoroughly beautiful exchange. I really appreciate that Eric was open to a discussion and interested to hear Ed's views. This made me smile today. Thank you Ed And best wishes to Eric.
Smart lad, I love when non vegans are open to a real, respectful discussion as opposed to emotional & aggressive. Ed could destroy cognitive dissonance in his sleep at this point lol
@@happyapple4269 So pushing for less cruelty is aggressive, makes sense. What’s chill about paying for brutal slaughter when it’s not needed? Devaluing life is the furthest thing from chill my friend
@@poll8934 Maybe stop making up things no one is saying. Not murdering someone is the most basic form of respect, we don’t have to be equals for having the basic right to live. Do you have any respect for an innocent being’s life? Are you against animal abuse/cruelty? If so, why?
Do you think Eric will go vegan and inspire others to do the same?
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I sincerely hope so! What a truly fantastic conversation.
He is self aware and it's very probable that he will not only be vegan but an animal's rights activist as well, this made my day a little better.
I am definitely going to buy your book as soon it's available to US.
We can only hope
What are your METAETHICS, Mr. Condoner-of-human-baby-murder?
Was this at UCSD? Wish I had been there.
Refreshing to see someone that is both curious and intellectually honest.
You mean somebody who is clueless and naive
I would say clueless people think they know everything and don't push themselves to learn more. Naive people haven't had the opportunity or just don't bother to gain more knowledge. This guy was just the opposite. What a pleasure to watch this video and see everyone's comments
And cute ☺️
@@en2995wtf i just read a genuinely nice comment.
@Regill Derenge I’m not vegan and you seem to think in very shallow terms.
I was amazed about the fact that, not only did Eric himself bring up the topic of necessity (when he said that those who need to kill animals to survive are moral), but Eric also broached the idea of putting himself in the animal's shoes and how it didn't matter whether it was factory farming or other forms of farming- all is immoral. Seeing how empathetic (and non-defensive) he was, was relieving to see. Watching this made my day!
Yes! :)
My wife and I have two fifteen year old boys. Their science teacher is a vegan and she takes a few minutes of class to debate with kids who parents are in animal agriculture. I am in the hunting and fishing industry. I own a small store and a fishing barge that I am going to be opening in a couple weeks.
She debated with them because I offered them a job. I know vegans are always right, smarter, stronger, faster. They came into the store after school and told me what they were doing and what I was doing is wrong and they quit.
Now they work in a vegan restaurant two towns over busing tables, wrapping napkins. For five dollars an hour. I was paying them fifteen fifty an hour.
The science teacher's family owns the restaurant
@@shawndarling5855 When you do what you feel is right, the money doesn't matter. No money can buy a healthy, calm conscience.
@@shawndarling5855 Sounds like you've raised compassionate, open minded and confident boys, you and your wife should be very proud. It's also really great to see that as a result you're now watching Ed's videos. I'm sure your sons will appreciate you taking this interest in something that will likely now be very important to them. Perhaps they will inspire you and your wife to make some albeit difficult (re your profession), very positive changes.
@@shawndarling5855 I can’t put myself in your position, but I can imagine the situation feels very unjust to you. I agree with the other commenters, you should be very proud to have raised compassionate and caring children. And you are fortunate, because I think that if your kids are capable of showing such compassion to animals, they will be capable of compassion towards you too.
I hope your family can work through this tough situation and listens to each other. Best wishes.
Such a genuinely open and kind-hearted person , the world needs more people like Eric
First vegan debate i have ever watched that didn’t raise my blood pressure at all😂 he gonna go vegan soon for sure😊
Yeah that's a rare thing to happen haha. ❤️
Hahaha i know what you mean! Anyone defending animal agriculture makes me see red!
I know right, I pressed play expecting to feel stressed out but it was the complete opposite ☺️💕
@Happy Carnivore 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
@@biosphere1053 Just seeing their meatflake username is enough to make anybody laugh haha
Eric was a great bystander! What an open-minded guy.
For a second I thought he was interviewing you. I was like huh? 🤨😅
i feel like he wasnt rly a bystander. he was a good listener but much of the convo was him talking. he just talked intelligently lol
The parents of this man should be very proud. I love his curiosity, and also there seems to be an inherent innocence and kindness about him. And Ed, as always, brilliant.
Erik made me cry by giving me the hope in humanity. His intellectual honesty is so admirable.
Me too! 😢
This has to be the bare minimum imho!!!! 😢
He did great and keeping an open mind! Future vegan for sure! 🌱
I'd say future activist as well!
@@peacelovevegankpop Totally!
@Happy Carnivore lmaooooo where did you get that number that’s such BS
@@charlescarmichael56 There is a study on faunalytics that shows 84%
@@janieswanson2549 what are you doing with your life spending time attacking vegans? Vegans are literally people who care about animals, health, and the planet, people who are trying to minimize suffering in the world and do good.
What an intelegent and humble guy. It takes a lot of humility to admit you don't know something especialy on camera. And he understood the objective morals vs culture argument straight away! I hope Erick does work on himself and progress to inspiring others. He's already inspired me. What a great guy.
That’s the type of people ed “debates” he never debates anyone like Goatis because he’s scared to
@@MohsinAli-jt5rk Or perhaps it's because he knows Goatis is a clown and a mysoginist?
Honestly, If Ed debates Goatis, it amounts to Goatis getting outrage clicks from Vegans. Ed and Veganism do not get any boost and the actual audience just wants to laugh from an ignorant perspective. Ed spends his time.better than that.
@@siinrajiaal Yh you’re right he goes on podcasts wearing his dads suits that don’t fit him💀🤥💀😂
@@MohsinAli-jt5rk I know I'm right but I dunno what Goatis goes on podcasts wearing. His dad's suits you say?
@@siinrajiaal I was being sarcastic in Ed’s latest podcast it’s like he’s wearing his grandads clothes that’s what veganism does to you. Eating disorder. Go get some help.
This was the most productive and open-minded conversation I’ve seen one of the challengers have so far in this series. Ed keeping it together and getting through conversations with people like that one idiot girl, who wouldn’t stop for a breath, only to eventually get to people like this guy and make a real difference in his life is so worth it, and Ed is the only one with the patience to do it. My fucking hero.
my hero too
There's so many angry trolls on the internet, it's so nice to see people that are open-minded and compassionate like this
Its easy to troll on the internet, not so easy when you got someone like Ed sitting next to you and deconstructing your entire belief system in matter of minutes
Luckily the internet isn't reality of the human species. ❤️
@@NoInjusticeLastsForever not yet 😶
This!!!!!
Had a small (3.5 Oz) fillet steak for lunch, so I'm def. not angry. Team V makes omnivores more appreciative of real food. Decided to go vegan, ~3yrs ago but Day1 research paused the project & by Day3 it was binned. Research has continued & all I find is plant-based BS. I guess I'm a troll🙄or else I don't wish to eat a diet which, historically, has been that of paupers & slaves.
According to Dan Buettner, who promotes a "vegan diet", the healthiest & longest living men eat 31% animal products. See Blue Zones Sardinia for more details.🙃😎
What an open minded and genuine person, hope he turns vegan! ❤️
i hope he does what ever he feels like being
@@KotaThaSage 🙄
@@KotaThaSage I hope he aligns with the values he has demonstrated
@Happy Carnivore you've dedicated an entire RUclips account purely to dig at vegans? Man I actually feel sorry for you, I hope things start to improve soon
@Happy Carnivore well your last few comments on things are on vegan videos and your account name is happy carnivore, which led me to believe you're literally spending your spare time trying to troll vegans.
This would be very sad and made me think you're unhappy or lonely, hence why I hoped things would get better for you.
Such a pleasant exchange. If only more people could be that honest & receptive to information. It'd make activism so easy!
Thank you Mr. Winters for all you do. I'm excited to receive your book that is expected to arrive in the mail this Summer :)
"Thank you Mr Winters?" Don't you mean Mr Gaunt?
What a friendly and honest guy. Great video, Ed!
What an astute young man! I wish Ed had been around when I was younger. I didn't stop eating animals until I was 27 - almost 31 years ago. At the time I didn't know what vegan was, animal sentience or the horrific practices in the dairy industry. When I finally found out about it 2 1/2 years ago I went vegan on the spot.
It's never too late to do the right thing.
I didn't learn the facts until about 60 years old, but one thing is certain...
I will be vegan for good.
We also need more people like you!❤️❤️
@@someguy2135 ❤️❤️
31 years ago, 2 1/2 years ago make up your mind
@@x-latetv-x6816 He went vegetarian 31 years ago and vegan 2 1/2 years ago.
Getting him to explain the argument to you is genius. Love your work Ed ❤️
i believe its called the socratic method, very effective
@@boriis333 I agree. Ed is the master of it.
A thoughtful young man, admitting that he’s still learning and able to change as he progresses.
He has a beautiful mentality.
Eric is the demonstration of a key psychological trait found by scientists among vegans :"openness". You need to be open to new ideas, norms and behaviour to change. That's why if Eric is not vegan, just by his attitude we're all confident that he's capable to improve himself by his openness.
"A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work unless it's open." Frank Zappa
He is also fairly agreeable
This dude, smart young man, is one of my favorite who goes 'up against Ed" haha. He's on the right path, if he becomes vegan or not, he cares and it shows. The world wont become vegan overnight and the 'in betweens', like this guy, shows that people are starting to really consider other ways of being with other beings.
Wow, I loved this conversation so much! Eric seems like such an open-minded and kind guy, definitely a future vegan! :D
If he is smart, he doesnt go Vegan ^^
he will be ex vegan eventually. the question is when
Great open minded person, a rarity among nonvegans, very refreshing.
A rarity he says. I think one of the problems many people have with vegans is that they tend to think they are better than non vegans. Your comment describes this perfectly
@@0BluePrototype0 well better for the environment,the animals and health so indeed they are better
You’re never going to win over the public talking like that. Nelson Mandela should be an inspiration and you are not following the path
@@0BluePrototype0 I think that he is referring to when non-vegans speak to vegans, not just in general. People are, as a rule, very defensive when speaking about veganism with a vegan (this is just anecdotal from my own life and from what i have heard from others). So, I think what he means is that it was surprising that the guy was so open to arguments against eating meat. Not that meat eaters aren’t open minded in general.
@@natashathomsen7183 I think everyone gets defensive when they have their morals challenged, which is a bit part of why so many people are reluctant to have conversations about veganism. It is really important for vegans to have an inquisitive stance like Ed, and to ask questions instead of accusing.
This is my school!! If I had seen Ed on campus, I would’ve lost my mind. Ed, thank you so much for all you do for the community and the animals. You truly inspire me. And much love to Eric for creating such lovely conversation and being so open-minded.
Hey! I’m scouring the comments looking for other ucsd vegans lmao
Me!!!
What an awesome line of questioning you have Ed. You really helped him draw his own conclusions, you did no “convincing” you just allowed him to discover things for himself. Well done.
This is actually the best vegan approach
I really love how Ed brought the conversation back to accountability and addressed the issue with a reductionist mindset. This was an awesome conversation!
After watching innocent people getting blown up in Ukraine it's nice to remember there is hope for humanity with people like Eric. Thanks for everything you do Ed!
Don't believe everything you see on the "News."
@@harveyplantharvester1502 I'm not actually watching much news, mostly videos taken from civilians on smartphones.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 I am hearing it from friends in the Ukraine.
@@nicolao.dos.santos I hope they are ok👍
@@ARKSURVIVOR879 thank you. So far they are, but they see schools, hospitals and homes being shelled. They feel abandoned by the west. I feel powerless :(
I feel people like this, know prior to approaching Ed's table, that they just want some confirmation and direction..a good conversation to learn from. All throughout university I dabbled in vegetarianism after watching earthlings. I was like Eric and understood my food choices had an effect on things behind the curtains and that my dollars spent on animal products supported the supply and demand concept. I didn't have enough information and knowledge on how to improve and spent the next 7 years eating meat and dairy, feeling guilty.. knowing deep down it wasn't right FOR ME. Now I have more than enough knowledge on basic nutrition and have been vegan for over a year. I've consumed no red meat, chicken, or dairy products for close to 2 years. that's because I was spearfishing and harvesting seafood for a year before coming to realize I could get all the nutrients I need from a diverse plant based and whole food diet. That and that the suffering I witnessed and caused first hand did not feel good. I now live by the rule, that "life is life". My life is no more valuable than an animal's. I'm at peace with knowing my actions and intent are to better the life of all living creatures, including humans, here on this beautiful earth. I love these videos as they are such a good source of inspiration to keep going. The number of plant based / vegan people grows by the day and I love it. We got this!✌️❤️💪
life is life is such a good way to put it! i was personally a vegetarian for a couple years, and then covid-19 happened and for some reason that shifted me into a completely plant based diet. coincidentally i started watching earthling ed at that time too haha! 23 now and vegan, never going back! life is life, and everyone should be treated equally! i’m going to steal that now!!
@@savvyburritos steal away and enjoy!
He's a good man. I like that he wasn't afraid to continue to ask questions when he didn't understand accountability. Most people would be afraid of asking what seems like an obvious question, especially on camera. It takes courage to be able to admit you don't know something.
He's already showing responsibility and accountability without even realising it.
Eric, shoutout to you for sitting down and engaging with this issue!! This was a lovely conversation to watch. I wish everyone was as open-minded as you 💚
"Most people eat animals because most people eat animals."
Because the meat is widely available thanks to mechanical means and no one has to go hunt, take down, kill, slaughter, skin, gut, cut up animals themselves. If they did then most of the world would be veg/vegan 🤝☺️
Yeah! I was the same. But the worst part is 0 knowledge about other sides of meat industry! Most meat eaters (just like us probably) have or had no idea what was on the plate, the history behind. I’ve developed such a huge empathy for animals that at this point I can even say I love animals more than humans.😂
@Happy Carnivore dude get a life … go find happiness
A few minutes in, Eric seems like a smart guy and very responsive! I hope he becomes vegan 🌱
The smart guy you talk of say the word "like" four times a sentence.
@@chrisoliver6690 I mean I‘d be a much worse speaker with a camera filming me.
As someone who has transcribed a few interviews for documentaries in the past I can tell you that, for example, scientists are almost always awful infront of the camera, they often struggle to form full sentences with proper syntax.
So I don’t hold that against people.
Not smart. But not as stupid as Ed
@@chrisoliver6690 o what is someone says like in one sentence? are you a perfect speaker with perfect grammar? no ones perfect at speak stop acting like you are!!
@@chrisoliver6690 most people use placeholder words subconsciously while they think of the right wording to say. it actually shows they are being thoughtful with their words.
I really liked how you handlers the accountability part of the conversation at the end. 🥰
Yeah its given me a very good framework on how to recommend cold turkey veganism when I do.
Right from the first moment Eric opened his mouth you could tell 'who' he is. A beautiful, gentle person, an open minded soul 💗 Genuinely refreshing debate 🙌
He really seems like he’s gonna go home and think about this. Good work Ed!
I was thinking about it while eating a steak, Ed cognitive dissonance is disturbing.
@@hudsontd7778 pretty sure that's your cognitive dissonance, bro..
@@hudsontd7778 I can’t even tell what you’re trying to say here lol what cognitive dissonance is Ed displaying?
well its seems contradictory to look like a soyboy gay man and tell us men this is masculinity, Ed looks like a frail old women who would need a MAN to help him take the groceries to his pink car.
Ed subjective morals just simple doesn't stand up to the reality of nature but Ed know that veganism is not good for humans because its NOT ABOUT HUMAN HEALTH its a animal is god human death cult.
While it may be more entertaining to have someone on the channel like the last debate, I'm glad you decided to post a debate like this. I'm sure this is how a majority of the conversations go. Well done Ed 👏
This is how I expect all conversation about veganism to go
What a great guy Eric seems to be and open to listening. It’s hard at that age with how judgmental friends can be. I see a future vegan right there! 🙌🏻
The guy is intelligent, open-minded and very friendly.
I'm often concerned of hitting on strong opposition when talking to meat eaters, but I should keep in mind that there's good and compassionate* people out there like this guy.
*in heart, not (yet) in action, obviously
I was worried about this initially as well, but the surprisingly thing about getting out there and doing outreach is that you realize "intelligent and open-minded" is the norm not the exception. If you've got an inclination to do so I highly recommend trying your hand at outreach.
If you've got a camera, even better as it helps you review and improve!
@@DebugYourBrain I've been meaning to join AV for a while now, but I still need to gather the courage to participate. (Also there's no AV near me, but I am moving later this year, so I'll start vegan advocacy then!)
Amazing conversation and refreshing to see someone’s lightbulb light up without continual rejection. Regardless of the argument, he did not deflect or was afraid of hearing the other persons point of view with the intent to prove them wrong as soon as they stopped talking. Ed you have done a wonderful job to engage in conversation and let the other party justify themselves rather than attack. This is the dialogue structure we need to help resolve some of our deepest problems as humans. I believe that Selfishness, unfortunately, is the biggest root of all issues we deem as wrong as a society.
what a kind, honest, & thoughtful guy. rare to see someone with such a small ego. gives me a lot of hope.
Hope Eric does go vegan. It seemed to be an open, logical and (hopefully) fruitful discussion.
What is that in your profile picture?
@@vioheubach3112 a random "cyberpunk horror photo" I don't know the artist but if anyone does I'll credit them for sure.
@@TempehLiberation
Ah ok, thanks.
This was an incredible exchange of ideas! Eric was completely open and honest and was willing to listen and ponder his actions. He was also mesmerized by Ed's hands as he weaved through the debate. I don't know how it took me so long to find Ed but I'm glad I did and I'm glad I'm vegan!
imagine your therapist being as efficient as Ed :))
When I finally started my road toward veganism the first step for me was to stop buying any animal products. I wasn't vegan at this point yet because I would still eat dairy and fish if it was already at the table. Seeing Gary Yorofsky videos and a documentary called the Cove helped me to connect with veganism and activism, when before that I was only doing a boycott.
Eric is a vegan but has been brainwashed by marketing like lots of us have been
He is actually very philosophical and his response has gave me great hope in how there are more people as logical as him
we are all born vegan friend, just raised as carnists.
I love how he followes Ed's hand with his eyes when Ed explains a point.
I swear Ed is hypnotising him
He is much kinder and less defensive as I was when I was a heavy meat eater, so if I could become vegan, he surely can very easily.
I think this guy represents most people. I applaud him for letting himself be open minded to think these things through while being on video.
Protein? Lol. I do weightlifting, jiu-jitsu and ultra running. I've only gotten stronger since going plant-based.
Good for you buddy
totally agree. surprised myself on how much more physical endurance, strength and energy i got from a vegan diet. definitely improved. even got other fitness friends to try whole food plant based. powerful diet with no moral issues, saving the animals. its a win win for everyone.
OMG Éric MVP! So nice to see someone debating about veganism and coming to opposite conclusions to what he initially came in with, without getting irritated and always talking with much respect. My man Eric if you are reading these comments, know that you were admirable !
I hope you managed to follow through and align with your personal morality and become Vegan!
Like Ed said, best thing to do now is dive into the harsh reality of factory farming and looking at vidéos just to be 100% aware of where your money goes when purchasing these products.
Thank you, Ed. I keep watching/reading because you null my confirmation bias with NEW enlightening pathways to understanding, through compassionate discourse. Today I was reminded that the end goal of this is in fact to END animal exploitation and the institutional suffering of all beings, not merely to more efficiently snivel about each others'
human shortcomings.
To the person being interviewed... Thank you for your sincere interview. You are a wonderful human being. Appreciate your honesty. Go vegan.
13:29 I'm so impressed with his openness. It's hard to be challenged, and especially on morality. Too often, we let feelings dictate the next 5 seconds instead of adhering to reason. Mensch.
this guy was so awesome. love how he didnt just listen, but actively wanted Ed to elaborate on certain points. he seemed like he was genuinely interested and wanted to make a change.
You're ability to empathetically listen is unmatched and something I strive to emulate in my own outreach videos.
10/10 as always!
This guy was chill. Real honest with himself
Not directly related to this video, but I thought plant-based folk might be interested in this. My 15 yr old son went vegan a year ago. He influenced me to do the same (I'd been vegetarian for 30 years). Knowing how important it is for kids his age to get the correct nutrition, I educated myself a bit on which PB foods provide a healthy balanced diet. The dietary changes were not hard to achieve. A year later and I arranged a blood test analysis to check that all was well. The doctor reported that my son's results were quote 'really good' with every major nutritional indicator showing as it should be. This is a good practical example to counter the nutritional myths about a PB diet.
This felt a bit like speed running. I feel like he would have benefited more with time to think through the points.
Still, great to see you out there helping others look closer at this.
I thought the title of this video was sarcastic, forewarning us of an impending car crash of a discussion. How wrong I was! And happy to be wrong, too. Eric was so open and receptive. He really engaged with the questions you posed to him. He wasn't at all defensive. If only all exchanges on hard topics could be this easy! I hope that Eric does end up going vegan by taking it one day at a time. Maybe he can inspire others too! Good job Ed and Eric!
Additionally, I have been thinking a lot since the Kurt Zouma/Cat incident. Like you, I used it as an opportunity to hold up the mirror to people, getting them to reflect on their behaviours and cognitive dissonance. I realised that, as I was just vegetarian (~95-99% vegan with my purchases/consumption), I was actually employing the same techniques of self-deception as they were. This incident and the subsequent discussions enabled me to look into that mirror and say, "You need to be accountable.". I've been living veganically for the last few weeks now. It has been so easy. There has only been 2 or 3 times where I have had to consciously not consume something that I would've done beforehand, and it has not been a great loss.
Love the suggestions at the end for accountability and how to change what's 'normal' to you
What a great conversation you both had!
This is a guy who's already vegan by heart. If you're reading this Eric, you're not alone in this! It gets easier over time once you do the proper research. Since you mentioned proteins and other amino acids as a first I would suggest trying a documentary like the Game Changers.
Good luck on your journey man! I hope we all can make the world a better place!
Keep up the good work Ed! You're awesome!
Game Changers is not the ideal source of information though.. There is plenty of fallacies, not my perspective but scientists' one
I really enjoyed this conversation. Eric seems like an honest and emotionally intelligent guy, no defensiveness just an open mind and curiosity! I hope he goes vegan. 🌱
Amazing video as always, Ed!
Eric is so humble and open-minded it almost melts my heart. If only all human beings are like him!
Another thing that made my day today was that my ex-boyfriend who I broke up with over a year ago sent me a text today telling me that since he moved to another city, he watched Earthlings again himself (we watched it together once but it didn't really strike him that much) and has since been taking baby steps towards becoming a vegan. Today it's one month since he became a vegan. He said he owed me an apology because he once said "everyone does some evil things and maybe for me it's eating animals" and he felt embarrassed in his head every now and then thinking of what he said. Indeed, he firmly said he will never be a vegan when we were dating. I said the same thing too, a couple of months before I became a vegan in 2018. People can surprise themselves by what they could do and change. I'm convinced that if the vegan community keeps doing what they are doing, they will eventually reach the right people and make the change. A huge thanks to Ed again. Hopefully we are all an inspiration to someone else one way or another.
This is truly amazing. It's giving me hope that we actually can change the world.
What a great lad. He's got his head together and recognised his own hypocrisy. Hopefully he follows through. 💚🌱
There are too many so called vegan activists who actually argue against actual vegan activism and argue for meatless mondays because "carnists don't like it when we preach veganism". I hope they watch this video and realize that we are fighting for every single individual animal. If we aren't fighting for an eventual vegan world we aren't animal rights activists
I have other vegans get mad at me all the time for this.
Like a person will say "Yeah I'm not vegan, not ever gonna be, but I do eat locally/sustainably raised meat and I try to reduce and stuff" and I'll just go "oh actually here's some reasons why that's not really that great and why you might actually wanna reconsider that stance"
And then I'll have "vegans" telling me- after like a one or two comment exchange- that I'm too aggressive..? and that this person is trying their best and we need more people like them and "we have to realize that not everybody wants to be vegan. baby steps are important. any change is good change!"
Like i don't even know how to process that logic.
@@ben66562 Yeah. There has to be a balance. Obviously we don't want to scare them off, and we have to encourage them, but that doesn't mean we can't push them to be better. Even if we want them to listen, we can't say it's enough when it isn't yet.
@@ariella118 exactly. I just cannot compromise on that. if someone says they're going to start cutting back and eating local now then to me that just suggests they don't really understand then? and instead of just patting them on the back for coming this far or something I'm like well no what piece of the puzzle is missing? what conversation have they not had yet? what is it going to take to get them there? because the second you fully understand these things, there's no other possible conclusion you'd come to.
and I've had conversations with people before where they start at "reduce, eat local, sustainable" and stuff and then once I just get across a few key points then they're putting it together and asking for advice on what to eat as a vegan. it does happen. obviously not with everybody. but it drives me nuts when people just want to leave the conversation there when sometimes they might just be one conversation away.
Action is the only remedy to indifference, the most insidious danger of all. - Elie Wiesel
The only vice that cannot be forgiven is hypocrisy. The repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy. - William Hazlitt
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." --Albert Einstein
(Today, he would be vegan. It's only logical.)
Google vegetarian quotes for wisdom from vegetarians from history like Da Vinci, Ben Franklin, Nikola Tesla, Voltaire, Tolstoy, George Bernard Shaw, and many more.
Today, they would be vegan of course.
@@someguy2135 None of them would be vegan. It isn't convenient and it's boring.
@@janieswanson2549 What prevented them being vegan was the knowledge that we now have about nutrition. It has never been easier or more convenient to be vegan. I challenge you to go to a good pure vegan restaurant and claim that it is boring. You can get every dish that you now enjoy in a vegan version.
That accountability advice was excellent. I got maybe half way through 'Earthlings' as meat eater 10 years ago and made the switch then and there. I couldn't even finish the film.
I relate to this non vegan more than any other one that you've spoken to. I could imagine myself saying the same things he is before going vegan.
I'm confident this guy is already vegan. He just needs proper guidance before he offically transitions from meat.
Oh I believe that. I am that way as well.
@@BethanieBoots same.. when I went vegan when I was around 16, my sister was luckily mainly vegan too. So she helped me a lot with the transformation :) Now I've been vegan for almost 6 years and didn't regret it for one day!
@@ayyowassup you will regret in another 6 years when you body has used up its b12 reserves and your brain and nervous system starts to crack.
@@happyapple4269 I do take B12, please don't worry for my health :) So I'm assuming you consume dairy?
I've wondered during my 20+ years of veganism whether people like this are genetically predisposed to feeling empathy. I believe I am. And I've noticed that maybe 1-2 out of a hundred people seem to be this way, regardless of culture. Maybe it's not genetic - maybe something else?
I think it’s an inherent trait every child is born with. If the child grows up in an environment that encourages showing empathy, it will last. If the environment constantly shows detachment, against all kinds of sentient beings or against beings that differ from one’s own self-perceived identity, it’ll get diminished. But that is just an assumption.🤷🏼♀️
What a cool conversation. Eric is so open to your points. Really nice to see :)
I have been recently very Introverted and reserved as far as Intellectual discussions go but you remind me that just being vegan isn’t enough and that words travel with much more power. Thanks for reminding me never to lose sight Ed. 💚
Ahw, know it's also okay to be the quiet introverted vegan. We are not always able or in the right mental state to try and motivate others to go vegan. Just don't be too hard on yourself.
don't underestimate the capacity of humans to adjust their beliefs according to their self interest
Chills. This was the MOST satisfying outreach I've ever seen. 💜🌱👏
WOOOOW this guy gives hope in humanity !! That's how a healthy human being should think like. Thx dude, you'll see, being vegan is awesome!!
Proud of this guy. I wish all of us could start discussions with an open, non-judgmental mindset.
That’s a future vegan right there. He has an open mind, he’s very intelligent, and he has a lot of empathy.
💚 The world needs more people like this curious and compassionate student. For people like this, we do not need to take a "hardline" approach. He will be vegan if he is exposed to a few more vegans along the path of his life who can continue to enlighten him. So...who among you will step up and help him get his 100 "clicks"? Vegans who are silent need to remember that they have so much more power than they think they do. Speak out. Wear vegan t-shirts. Order the vegan options loudly in restaurants. Remind people that they were all born vegan and all they need to do is return to the inner compassion they were born with. If you're vegan, make your presence known in the world. Don't just eat popcorn while watching videos like this. Engage. Be brave. Speak out and be the voice of the animals who are suffering so much and desperately need our help. Thank you for doing your best to be amazing animal-defenders! 💚
I am mostly a popcorn eater because I have severe social anxiety, but I did point out recently to an anti-vegan that children have to be taught to kill. It isn't natural and we weren't meant to do it. A child who kills an animal on their own would be labeled a psychopath and future serial killer. Watching these videos has been slowly helping me get up the courage to say something ✌️
While veganism is rising, carnism is dying! Great work Ed! 👏
Delusions
Yaaaaaaaas!!!! 💪 💪 💪
I live on a vegan diet for seven days now. This channel helps me a lot on my journey. I was vegetarian for some years.
That's great! Keep it going!
❤️🌱
great job, keep going!
I'm so sad I didn't get to see you at UCSD! It would have been great to meet you 😞. This video is great!! 🌱
been a vegan now for 4 years. feel great but i have to say i’m getting tired of being judged by family and friends. because of this i do sometimes question it all. for myself
It's worth it for the animals. You can do this ❤
Oh Ed this video makes me so happy… so hopeful… you have such a beautiful way about you, your words and tone. You are so informative and so kind. I wish I could come across more like you. I find it quite difficult to keep a level head, as I am quite baffled by people’s ignorance. The industry saddens me beyond words and sometimes I just get so hopeless and frustrated. What a beautiful person you are xxx
I wish everyone was as open minded and caring as this guy. What a breath of fresh air he is ! :)
He already sat down with an open heart
He looks so inspired, displayed genuine curiosity and honesty. What a beautiful man. If he's able to hold himself accountable, surely he will become vegan 💕
We need more people like Eric in the world. Willing to question their assumptions, curious to listen and learn, keen to evolve morally, able to critique oppressive systems of assimilative normative [carnist] cultural logics and behaviors, inclined to raise others up not bring others down, and humble enough to self-reflect! Kudos young man! :) A vegan in the making.
This guy is like me going vegan. Once I found out "the truth", I just knew that being vegan was the only right way to be. It still took me a year to become vegan 100% but it was down to my laziness, not undermining the idea in the slightest. That's what I thought everybody else would be once they hear it!! Yes, I can hear you all laugh :):) It is one of my biggest disappointments in life - the extent to which people can go to defend a clearly unethical way to live. This guy is as straightforward as one can be - heard it and wants to do better. Wow!
Give yourself credit, my friend. That year wasn’t laziness, you had to overcome the social conditioning from all your previous years of life!
And maybe that moment will come where everyone around us flips the switch too. The more vegans there are and the more options for us, the easier for more folks to change over!
Not laughing, just smiling because the same happened to me, it's worlds and stars apart from what "people" around you are doing for the "cause", putting down an extra effort where there was hardly none before, is not just hey, I'll do it... Massive change, and also knowledge brings hurt, it also is a fight or escape scenario, it's a deep psychological reflex we all have more or less. Important is that we actually arrived there with the goal intact, being humble and seeing how weak we all are to lies our mind plays to us, even if the mind tries its best to just elevate the pain. After going thru the process of becoming VEGAN, not a diet, and not a lifestyle... it's just the basic moral value principle, if it's wrong, it is wrong. Then eat by the same protocol, buy products with the same logic and help others to find their way out of the meat haze. Thank you!
It took me probably at least 6 months from the first idea of going vegan until becoming fully vegan (mainly due to convenience and how 'hard' i thought transitioning would be, as well as flip flopping because of other people's opinions or conditioning). But I did it and i knew 100% that veganism was the goal, otherwise it was pointless to find out the info that I knew. Be proud that you've made that step, many still haven't started their journey.
Biggest thing I’ve learned is being non judgmental, open to questions and being easygoing is truly the path to opening minds.
This person might be young and naive, even low information but holy hell were they more honest, vulnerable, and critically thinking then all of the other interview subjects I've seen. Incredibly bright young person. They will go far
0:25 that's the moment where I knew that it was going to be a great conversation. This guy was genuinely interested and open to the conversation. That's awesome!
This was such a pleasure to watch
I wish I would have been so open minded before I started to get deeper in to the topic of veganism.
Keep it up
You are such an inspiration Ed
Thank you 💚
This gives me hope. Thanks for doing these Ed
Wow. For the dude to END the conversation by asking Ed to elaborate on accountability is a VERY impressive conclusion to the video. Hell yeah.
I like this guy. Curious, open minded, honest and willing to listen to opinions and ideas not familiar. 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
you're a gift for the vegan community Ed, keep going at it!
It's been a long time since watching these and not wanting to bash my head in. It's amazing what can happen when one takes themselves out the equation, starts listening and asks questions. Thank you Ed. Love you more than you know.
What a thoroughly beautiful exchange. I really appreciate that Eric was open to a discussion and interested to hear Ed's views. This made me smile today. Thank you Ed And best wishes to Eric.
Smart lad, I love when non vegans are open to a real, respectful discussion as opposed to emotional & aggressive. Ed could destroy cognitive dissonance in his sleep at this point lol
Ive always found vegans to be the aggessive ones. Meat eaters are chill.
@@happyapple4269 So pushing for less cruelty is aggressive, makes sense. What’s chill about paying for brutal slaughter when it’s not needed? Devaluing life is the furthest thing from chill my friend
@@blueberrydenim4807 Stop acting like these animals let alone farm animals, Are equal to humans and deserve the same respect.
@@poll8934 Maybe stop making up things no one is saying. Not murdering someone is the most basic form of respect, we don’t have to be equals for having the basic right to live. Do you have any respect for an innocent being’s life? Are you against animal abuse/cruelty? If so, why?